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『給新手』為什麼重量訓練對每一個人都重要
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這篇是專門寫給剛入門的新手,尤其是只想減重的女生,希望以後
不要有人一味的排斥重量訓練,進而養成正確的健身觀念。
為什麼重量訓練對每個人都很重要?
1. 重量訓練可以預防骨骼疏鬆
許多研究證實,持續的運動可以避免骨頭中的鈣質流失,進一步
更可以可以增加骨骼密度,這對老年人跟女性特別重要。而重量
訓練又比有氧運動更加有效,因為重量訓練可以讓訓練部位的骨骼
感到壓力,進而增加骨骼的密度。而衝擊性的有氧雖然也能有同樣
的效果,但卻同時也給關節帶來衝擊,對常有關節問題的老年人非常
不利,研究顯示,即使是70歲以上的老年人,進行在每週三次,一次
30分鐘的重量訓練後,骨質疏鬆的問題就可以獲得明顯的改善。而年
輕人提早開始進行重量訓練,可以讓骨骼中保有更多的礦物質,避免
將來出現骨質疏鬆的問題,尤其是女性更需要未雨綢繆,因為停經後
的婦女骨質流失的速度遠比同年齡的男性要快。
2. 重量訓練可以大量的消耗熱量
30分鐘以上的有氧對消耗脂肪有比較高的效率,但以單位時間所能消耗
的熱量而言,重量訓練遠比有氧來的有效。相對於有氧在身體習慣後
熱量消耗會減少的問題,重量訓練可消耗的熱量可以說是沒有上限的,
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> FITNESS </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> chungg (杜若)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 『給新手』為什麼重量訓練對每一個人都重要<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue May 1 20:46:38 2007</div><hr color="#008080" />
這篇是專門寫給剛入門的新手,尤其是只想減重的女生,希望以後
不要有人一味的排斥重量訓練,進而養成正確的健身觀念。
為什麼重量訓練對每個人都很重要?
1. 重量訓練可以預防骨骼疏鬆
<div class="combine-lines">許多研究證實,持續的運動可以避免骨頭中的鈣質流失,進一步
更可以可以增加骨骼密度,這對老年人跟女性特別重要。而重量</div>
訓練又比有氧運動更加有效,因為重量訓練可以讓訓練部位的骨骼
感到壓力,進而增加骨骼的密度。而衝擊性的有氧雖然也能有同樣
<div class="combine-lines">的效果,但卻同時也給關節帶來衝擊,對常有關節問題的老年人非常
不利,研究顯示,即使是70歲以上的老年人,進行在每週三次,一次
30分鐘的重量訓練後,骨質疏鬆的問題就可以獲得明顯的改善。而年
輕人提早開始進行重量訓練,可以讓骨骼中保有更多的礦物質,避免
將來出現骨質疏鬆的問題,尤其是女性更需要未雨綢繆,因為停經後
的婦女骨質流失的速度遠比同年齡的男性要快。</div>
2. 重量訓練可以大量的消耗熱量
30分鐘以上的有氧對消耗脂肪有比較高的效率,但以單位時間所能消耗
的熱量而言,重量訓練遠比有氧來的有效。相對於有氧在身體習慣後
熱量消耗會減少的問題,重量訓練可消耗的熱量可以說是沒有上限的,
只要你調高重量,消耗的熱量就變大,這對時間有限的現代人來說,
是一個可以在短時間內消耗大量熱量的方法。不要忘記,減肥固然要專注
於消耗脂肪,但消耗熱量的總量也很重要。就算你做有氧消耗的熱量
百分之百都是來自脂肪,但是卻只消耗了一兩百卡,那還不如你做重量
<div class="combine-lines">訓練消耗的都是肝醣,但卻能一口氣消耗三四百卡來的好。更重要的是,
重量訓練可以增加你的肌肉,而肌肉在日常生活都不斷在幫你消耗熱量,
這是有氧比不上的。</div>
3. 肌肉可以增加你求生應變的能力
雖然我們生活在一個文明世界,不像古代人有那麼多野外求生的必要,但是
天有不測風雲,你永遠不知道自己會遇到什麼意外。而在意外發生的
時候,強健的肌肉往往就是你求生的關鍵。不管是車禍、山難、船難還是
地震,比別人強壯一點就代表了多一分的求生能力,也比別人多了一分
存活的機會。你真的以為你可以跟電影中的女主角一樣,看似弱不禁風,
卻還可以穿著高跟鞋跟洋裝,在叢林中奔跑、爬上山巔越過河流、爬上
帝國大廈之後還毫髮無傷?別傻了。
4. 肌肉是你大吃大喝的最佳緩衝
<div class="combine-lines">如果學過一點化學就知道,當溶液中加入大量緩衝劑後,就不會因為
少量外來酸或鹼的進入而大幅改變酸鹼值。將之類比在身體,道理也
是類似的。如果你身體只有很少量的肌肉可以消耗熱量,那就像一個</div>
淺碟子經濟一樣,只要少少的外來干擾就會使你的身體大幅波動。因為
你的身體肌肉無法消耗掉大量熱量,它只好將消耗不了的都轉存為脂
肪,所以只要一兩次的大吃大喝就會讓你的體脂率大幅上升。如果你有
較多的肌肉,那即使一兩次的放縱身體也有足夠的buffer來吸收。人
是很難長期過著嚴格的禁欲生活的,除非你能完全推卻朋友的慶祝活動或是
家人的熱情邀約,並且克制自己偶而大啖美食的慾望,只用節食跟有氧
的減肥方式很難避免大吃大喝後體脂的上升跟隨之而來的罪惡感。相對而言
重量訓練可以讓你對吃大餐這件事比較心安。
5. 重量訓練可以局部雕塑體態,有氧不行
這個觀念我已經強調很多次了,有氧只能全身性的消脂肪,至於那個部位
<div class="combine-lines">消的快,根據每個人的基因都有所不同。偏偏有些地方是最容易堆脂肪
卻最難消,所以常會出現瘦到不該瘦的地方,該瘦的卻偏不瘦的情形。
很有可能你已經拼命有氧拼命節食,最後卻象一顆貢丸插著四根牙籤,</div>
與其把自己搞的像非洲飢民四肢像竹竿,不如一方面做有氧消脂,一方面多
<div class="combine-lines">做重量訓練加強已經太瘦的部位,雖然有氧的確不能做哪裡瘦哪裡,但重量
訓練卻真的可以讓你練哪裡大哪裡,一個體態均勻的微胖子,遠比像非洲飢
民卻局部發胖的瘦子要好看多了。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">PS: 雕塑體態不是要你加強你原來就胖的地方,那只會讓你更醜。很多人
進了健身房就開始練大腿練屁股練肚子,以為這樣可以讓自己看起來更瘦,</div>
恰恰相反,這樣只是讓原來胖的地方看起來更胖。反而最該加強的手、胸、背
都不做,真是大錯特錯。
6. 重量訓練相對安全
跟球類運動比起來,重訓少了與別人衝撞或扭傷的危險。與跑步比起來,重訓
不會衝擊膝關節,大概只有游泳可以跟重訓一樣,又能鍛鍊到全身又不會對
關節造成負擔。但游泳不是每個人都有時間跟場地參與。相對來說,重訓只要
家裡買兩個調整式的啞鈴就可以練,更可以依自己的需要調整啞鈴的重量,
量力而為,如果能參加健身房,那使用機器式的重訓更是安全。使用機器的重訓
好處在於可以自己選擇重量跟次數,只要自己不要太過熱血沖昏了頭,就不容易發生
危險,不像伏地挺身或單槓這類使用自身重量的鍛鍊,對胖子而言太重,對瘦子
又太輕,只要循序漸進,做重訓每個人都能step by step的看到成效。
FAQ:
1. 剛開始重量訓練,結果不但沒瘦反而變重了,怎麼會這樣?
答:這是正常的,記得不要看重量而要看體脂率,因為肌肉的密度
<div class="combine-lines">比脂肪大,一開始很可能會讓體重上升,脂肪又還沒那麼快消,所以
體重就增加了。只要你持之以恆,就算體重上升,看看鏡子裡的自己
也應該知道自己線條變的更好了。</div>
2. 有人說太瘦了要先吃胖一點再來做重量訓練才有效?
<div class="combine-lines">答:沒這回事,脂肪細胞是脂肪細胞,肌肉細胞是肌肉細胞,兩個不會
相混,吃胖只是讓你的脂肪細胞變大,增加的是肥油,絕不會讓你肌肉
比較好練,只有多練重量,吃下去的食物才會變成肌肉,而不是肥油。
</div>
3. 到底要飯前運動還是飯後運動,什麼時候補充營養品才會練的更快?
答:最好是飯前運動,練完也不用想太多,吃就對了,不用擔心練完
馬上吃東西會不會變胖。運動完吃東西的確吸收效率比較好,但是因為
你做重訓的關係,大部分的熱量會拿去修補你的肌肉,而不是變成脂肪。
之所以會有運動完不要馬上吃東西的迷思,主要是因為有些人運動完
胃口變好,以致於吃下遠大於正常應該吃的量。如果你只是跟平常一樣的
吃,訓練量又夠,那什麼時候吃根本不是問題。
4. 我隨便練一下就跑出肌肉來了,我不想當肌肉男或金剛芭比,怎麼辦?
答:如果你可以隨便練一下就有肌肉,照這種速度下去,你應該很快
就可以變成阿諾史瓦辛格或史特龍,要不要考慮出國比賽,為台灣爭光?
放心吧,根據邊際效應遞減法則,你很快就會開始擔心怎麼都練不大,而不是
肌肉太多。更何況,真的越變越大,你不會暫停喔?你以為重訓是吃仙豆,
吃下身體就會跟吹氣球一樣不會停去嗎?
5. 跟前者相反,我重量已經做很重了,可是怎麼都不會長肌肉?
答:恭喜恭喜!你一定是第二個常威或是李小龍,不然就是你重新發現了輕功
的奧秘,居然可以用少少的肌肉就發出這麼大的力氣,要不要考慮去參加
武術大賽或輕量級拳擊賽?如果你這麼瘦還可以天生神力,那下一屆的全國
武術大賽冠軍一定非你莫屬了。
<div class="combine-lines">事實是,不是你做的根本不夠重,就是你在做的時候cheat,用到了其他地方的
肌肉去拉,不然更可能的是,你沒有在做完重訓後給身體足夠的營養跟休息。
以致於事倍功半,請記住,做重訓不是只有拼命練肌肉就會變大,適當的休息
跟補充營養也很重要。</div>
不過,看了第四跟第五個問題的回答,剛好可以給我們一個啟示,就是你如果
想減肥又不想大肌肉,那請做大重量並且吃的少。如果你想增大肌肉,則做
正常8-12rm並且補充適當營養及休息。重訓的好處,就在於你要長肉也可以,
要減肥也行,適用於任何人,很神奇吧?
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chungg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:買兩個調整式的啞鈴就可以練,動作musclebeach版的精華區有</span><span class="push-right">24F 05/03 09:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LoVeDIE7</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我就是自己買啞鈴天天在家練..沒蝴蝶袖煩惱..還能瘦腰</span><span class="push-right">25F 05/05 07:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LoVeDIE7</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是女生但一點也不排斥重訓 因為肌力很重要的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LoVeDIE7</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我希望到60歲我還是能靈活像條活龍o.o..</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LoVeDIE7</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:doris0825 吃東西也要注意 有氧運動也需要 配上重訓...</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LoVeDIE7</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有配合 所以我手臂雖然不像model那種細細的 但沒贅肉喔</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LoVeDIE7</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真的可以局部"雕塑" ^^我很推這篇 希望多點女生也能練</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">stanleymen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好久沒看到常威了XDD</span><span class="push-right">31F 05/15 22:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yahuichang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文..轉貼至有氧版</span><span class="push-right">32F 05/18 19:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Alaca</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇很棒阿~~</span><span class="push-right">33F 08/11 11:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FlyinDeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:2要修正一下 重訓單位時間內消耗的熱量比有氧高</span><span class="push-right">34F 08/18 14:09</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FlyinDeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但重訓有無氧運動共通的問題 那就是無法持續</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FlyinDeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一般重訓有超過2/3的時間都在休息 最後燃燒的總熱量</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FlyinDeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會比有氧運動少很多 因此有氧還是最有效率的減脂法</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wmja4387</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:FAQ有酸到 不過還是好文..</span><span class="push-right">38F 10/01 21:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chimin6</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:good! 推</span><span class="push-right">39F 11/04 16:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">smilenick</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我想問的是…運動後馬上吃 會傷胃嗎…XD</span><span class="push-right">40F 11/15 23:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FlyinDeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:吃完馬上運動才會傷胃 XD</span><span class="push-right">41F 11/21 17:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">celebrity</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:希望到60歲我還是能靈活像條活龍+1 XDD</span><span class="push-right">42F 12/18 08:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">blackpenguin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌</span><span class="push-right">43F 06/05 11:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nmg0113</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超優</span><span class="push-right">44F 07/24 14:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Berlin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉!謝謝,希望能讓更多人了解重訓好處</span><span class="push-right">45F 08/14 05:40</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Berlin</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 pesoftball</span> 08/14 05:41</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lafel</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉!謝謝</span><span class="push-right">46F 09/25 19:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mjakeyk</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:非常有用 感謝分享 > <</span><span class="push-right">47F 10/22 14:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">DEVILPOESY</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問要怎麼去康是美量阿?跟店員說@@?</span><span class="push-right">48F 12/03 00:33</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">choet</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 FJU-EE-VLSI</span> 12/15 21:44</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">choet</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉至我實驗室看板 謝謝 因為學校有健身房 去的人卻不多</span><span class="push-right">49F 12/15 21:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bokaka620</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉伊莉論壇,並註名出處和作者。如有不妥,立即刪除。</span><span class="push-right">50F 02/01 11:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">linjingyu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:身體有酸到~心也酸的~</span><span class="push-right">51F 02/18 23:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">RainyCity</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">52F 02/19 23:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Iserlon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push</span><span class="push-right">53F 02/25 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LuciferXI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有看有推!</span><span class="push-right">54F 03/17 16:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ocean01</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推...</span><span class="push-right">55F 03/18 19:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Taichun318</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推^^</span><span class="push-right">56F 04/19 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BearFather</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚</span><span class="push-right">57F 04/21 22:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bct172</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉謝謝!!</span><span class="push-right">58F 05/26 00:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dcop</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推推</span><span class="push-right">59F 06/24 22:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteanoa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">60F 06/28 09:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Apexer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真是非常受用 多謝版大</span><span class="push-right">61F 07/10 18:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">taikuo86</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">62F 08/14 22:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">starbear</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感恩!</span><span class="push-right">63F 08/30 22:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">helianthus69</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推@@ 好文</span><span class="push-right">64F 09/08 13:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">unholy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉ptt2個版</span><span class="push-right">65F 10/09 09:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">celestel</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請借我轉貼網誌^^ 謝謝您^^</span><span class="push-right">66F 10/17 13:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">echovan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉! 謝謝!</span><span class="push-right">67F 10/19 13:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sjsohot</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推!!!</span><span class="push-right">68F 12/20 01:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">toeic</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推"常威"</span><span class="push-right">69F 01/27 00:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LardsCom</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文借轉~</span><span class="push-right">70F 02/26 07:52</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">LardsCom</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 NTNU-HISBK</span> 02/26 07:55</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yonglove</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文</span><span class="push-right">71F 03/30 06:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">crazyclark</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文~借轉^^</span><span class="push-right">72F 04/14 07:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eviaa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:十分受用!借轉網誌 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">73F 04/23 15:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yaosh</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">74F 04/29 01:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">IROIKYO</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:%推</span><span class="push-right">75F 05/05 12:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vivalasvegas</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每次看每次都會有動力的感覺</span><span class="push-right">76F 05/20 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">e7hax0r</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推 借轉網誌</span><span class="push-right">77F 05/24 21:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">stupidfox</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問可以借貼網誌嗎^___^ 好實用阿!!</span><span class="push-right">78F 06/14 09:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hotlove119</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉唷!!!感恩~</span><span class="push-right">79F 06/22 01:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">david6602ok</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:非洲難民大肚子是因為寄生蟲感染@@</span><span class="push-right">80F 09/10 03:57</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">david6602ok</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:加上生理失調水腫</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bronze48</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:good!!</span><span class="push-right">82F 10/24 07:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">twentyeight</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,太多人誤會重訓了</span><span class="push-right">83F 10/27 13:14</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">GEORGE9898</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CheerLeading</span> 10/30 17:12</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Jonathan0821</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推XD</span><span class="push-right">84F 11/06 13:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">I23</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問重訓動作在musclebeach版精華區的那裡呢</span><span class="push-right">85F 12/06 22:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">niravaabhas</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 借轉到網誌 感恩!</span><span class="push-right">86F 02/06 14:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">matthew531</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉FB^^!!!</span><span class="push-right">87F 03/19 12:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rtsai928</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人以為很容易長肌肉 實在無言...</span><span class="push-right">88F 04/06 13:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dogdog1227</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:受教了!!謝謝你^^</span><span class="push-right">89F 06/04 21:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">davidjay</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近正好很迷惑呢,感謝筆者!</span><span class="push-right">90F 06/30 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">raya11600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推!!</span><span class="push-right">91F 07/31 20:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ahoya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝!寫的真的很好~感覺上我應該來作個重訓冏</span><span class="push-right">92F 08/15 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">anglejess</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉謝謝</span><span class="push-right">93F 08/25 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">pushr</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉=D</span><span class="push-right">94F 04/03 13:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ion12113</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每看完一次,就更加確信自己做重訓是對:)</span><span class="push-right">95F 04/20 22:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">oumo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">96F 04/27 22:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kobecheng</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚啦</span><span class="push-right">97F 06/05 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aliceexs</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GOOOOOOD</span><span class="push-right">98F 06/13 13:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">smartkuei</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每看一次,讓自己又邁向成功一步</span><span class="push-right">99F 06/21 11:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">etcbz</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:目前停滯期不知是否重訓練做不夠飲食接近基代多加重訓試試QQ</span><span class="push-right">100F 07/26 15:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">polymath88</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文!!受益良多^^</span><span class="push-right">101F 09/28 12:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AngeLucifer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:狂推, 解了我很多疑惑</span><span class="push-right">102F 02/22 10:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">silense</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝大大細心詳解^O^</span><span class="push-right">103F 03/10 18:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Nono1986</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:yes!baby!</span><span class="push-right">104F 05/23 05:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">themist</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫真好!釐清不少我的迷思!</span><span class="push-right">105F 05/30 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jiahao</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GOOD</span><span class="push-right">106F 06/11 14:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wudodowu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝你真的建立我正確關念!</span><span class="push-right">107F 06/20 15:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">purpleviva</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雖然很晚看到但捕推個</span><span class="push-right">108F 06/29 17:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MOSMOSQQ55</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,我慢跑和重訓都交差著練。推練肌肉可當緩衝</span><span class="push-right">109F 07/04 00:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">scottprint10</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問什麼是8~12rm</span><span class="push-right">110F 10/07 10:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lsj168</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文啊~</span><span class="push-right">111F 10/15 19:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">lzbcgjkw</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文借轉 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">112F 11/04 06:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">IDProblem</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push</span><span class="push-right">113F 11/05 15:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">starcrystal</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/sr2i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/sr2i</a> 內容一模一樣@@</span><span class="push-right">114F 12/02 09:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">justlove5566</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">115F 01/07 17:28</span></div>
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讚 tom8205022:大大說得太好了啊~~~
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tom8205022</span><span style="color:#808000">:以前有在健身可是卻因為上班累了就懶</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tom8205022</span><span style="color:#808000">:健身真的是個很好的運動!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tom8205022</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在也開始健身了</span>
讚 howar31:<a href="http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FITNESS/M.1178023604.A.1F9.html" target="_blank">http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FITNESS/M.1178023604.A.1F9.html</a></div></pre>
senjor.
[建議] 給"終於"想要減肥的人一些實用小建議
http://disp.cc/b/191-3Ko3
2008-05-13T13:44:41+08:00
2014-02-11T17:10:09+08:00
最近看到了不少人
"終於"要下定決心減肥了
但是要減肥之前
首先建議把置底看完
給自己一些良好的減肥概念
至於我這篇想說的是
關於有氧運動的一些觀念 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> BeautyBody </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> senjor (哞哞)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [建議] 給"終於"想要減肥的人一些實用小建議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue May 13 13:44:41 2008</div><hr color="#008080" />
最近看到了不少人
"終於"要下定決心減肥了
但是要減肥之前
首先建議把置底看完
給自己一些良好的減肥概念
至於我這篇想說的是
關於有氧運動的一些觀念
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對於終於下定決心要減肥的你
我先恭喜你終於踏出了第一步
但是這一步對於長久生活習慣不良的你來說
會顯得有點稍嫌沉重
例如一開始的節食、運動等
很容易造成生活上的不適應
這邊有一些循序漸進的方法
比較不會讓剛開始想要減肥的人
就好像面對一道高牆一樣
望之興嘆、沒幾天就放棄
給有恆心打算減肥、不躁進的你來看看
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《一》.先跟著大家一起運動,別急著改變飲食
對於許多有肥胖困擾的人來說
飲食確實是一種很難戒斷的東西
所以對於長期肥胖的人來說
我不建議馬上就改變飲食習慣
這樣只會讓剛開始想要減肥的人覺得痛苦難耐
所以我的建議是
『不要急著改變飲食習慣,先培養運動習慣』
《二》.不改變飲食習慣,但是改變吃東西的時段
我建議享用美食的時間是 -> "剛運動過後"
你沒看錯,的確是運動過後
剛運動過後所攝取的熱量
其中容易吸收的部分還有一部份可以做為肌肉修補所用
但是運動之前,或者運動過後很久所攝取的熱量
幾乎都是被轉化成脂肪
不過運動過後可能會有食欲增大的現象
但是不用太擔心
如果你平常是吃一塊雞排
你就乖乖的吃一塊雞排
不要再加點就好
另外運動後吃還有一個很大的原因
是給大腦一種"正增強"的反應
讓大腦知道每次運動完就會有美食享用
可以讓不習慣運動,或排斥運動的大腦
慢慢的接受運動,並將其培養成習慣
《三》.從簡單的運動開始
很多人每次要開始減肥
馬上想到的就是去操場慢跑個30分鐘
但是對於老早就跟運動分手的你來說
直接就去操場慢跑不見得是好事
因為對於許久沒運動的族群來說
體重跟骨骼、肌腱、韌帶之間的強度適應性還不夠
如果猛然的直接進入慢跑30分鐘
很容易對腿部、關節造成傷害
到時候如果這些地方的傷害嚴重
造成以後永久的運動性傷害反而得不償失
所以對於想要進入有氧的人來說
我還是比較建議健身車或游泳
但是游泳不是每個人都很熟練
所以比較建議對關節比較沒負擔的『健身車』
至於健身車的速度沒有一定
都是看個人體能而定
主要是讓自己的心跳數維持在130-140之間即可(過多或過少皆不適宜)
必且維持這個情況30-40分鐘
如果一開始沒有辦法騎這麼久
也請不要急躁硬上
今天能撐到10分鐘
後天再看看能不能15分鐘
不要貿然挑戰許久未活動的身體機能
直到每個星期能做三次、每次40分鐘不間斷即可
《四》. 那飲食呢?
至於什麼時候要改變飲食習慣?
我個人覺得是看你自己
因為當你有運動習慣之後
你會發現自己的食慾、飲食習慣也跟以前不一樣了
許多人不正常的飲食習慣
來自於新陳代謝、賀爾蒙、心理狀態
當運動變成習慣之後
你就會感覺到心情不一樣了
遇到壓力或者無聊的時候
也不容易整天想抓著東西吃
那個時候你再慢慢順著自己的意思改變飲食吧
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減肥就是這樣,不用著急,也不用餓肚子
只要你肯花時間面對,慢慢解決肥胖就好
畢竟肥胖跟了你這麼久
你想要兩三個月就把它全丟掉
一定會很容易受到挫折跟瓶頸的
希望這邊所提到的能對於想要減肥的人來說能幫上忙 ^^
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我喜歡吃麥當當,所以再怎麼樣也不算飲食控制... =3=</span><span class="push-right">10F 05/13 14:15</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">balance326</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫的太好了 奉為圭臬阿!!</span><span class="push-right">28F 05/14 10:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mmpp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~我也是運動是為了讓自己吃的沒壓力 >__<</span><span class="push-right">29F 05/14 20:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">inua</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇很實在!決心要減肥的人最好讀進心裡,務實執行</span><span class="push-right">30F 05/19 22:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nov81980</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇真是太實在的好文囉1!</span><span class="push-right">31F 05/20 11:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kilayshou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GJ</span><span class="push-right">32F 05/20 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vn522390</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我以後要運動完吃東西!!謝謝,之前都不敢跑步完吃東西</span><span class="push-right">33F 05/30 21:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">KsSteven</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不是運動完一個小時不能吃東西嗎?還有一公克的酒七大卡</span><span class="push-right">34F 06/02 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ginseng</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上錯了 運動完後可以正常吃喔 再把文章看一次吧</span><span class="push-right">35F 06/14 12:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vn522390</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想問運動後吃東西是大概多久以內呢?一個小時嗎?</span><span class="push-right">36F 06/18 23:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">never01</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:希望對您有幫助 <a href="http://Now.to/1l1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://Now.to/1l1</a></span><span class="push-right">37F 06/19 04:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">youshow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:vn522390,文章裡寫著「運動剛過後」,應該沒有很難理解吧</span><span class="push-right">38F 06/20 09:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">youshow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不要隔太久吃就好了呀~我會先去衝個澡換個衣服,頂多30分</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">youshow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鐘,然後清爽的吃早餐 (  ̄▽ ̄)o/"Ω</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sakura037</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感動的要哭了</span><span class="push-right">41F 06/21 19:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sakuhamai</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我跳舞的老師說不吃早餐後運動咪咪會變小...</span><span class="push-right">42F 06/27 12:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Jabberwock90</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我已經哭了</span><span class="push-right">43F 07/09 01:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">spj312003</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:節食和運動才是好方法</span><span class="push-right">44F 07/15 00:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Montolivo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:邪靈斬</span><span class="push-right">45F 08/01 15:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Montolivo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:邪靈斬</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LeftIsGood</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:邪靈斬</span><span class="push-right">47F 08/03 10:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我爬文完就相信運動過後吃..結果一個禮拜胖了一公斤..根</span><span class="push-right">48F 08/10 23:45</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本在亂寫..請不要再相信了.生氣.(請用理智判斷)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">m0630821</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你是把正餐擺在運動過後吃嗎?</span><span class="push-right">50F 08/11 20:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">hkx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我相信不是運動後吃太多就是只做空中腳踏車抬腿一類的運動</span><span class="push-right">51F 08/13 15:13</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">hkx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且對於一個從來不跑步的人突然天天跑步的確是有可能變重</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">hkx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:然後大部分的人只看到體重變重了一點點就嚇到再也不跑了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Chilula</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:vicky600你做的真的是"運動"?</span><span class="push-right">54F 08/20 12:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteman0725</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:vicky600要不要公布你運動的細節?</span><span class="push-right">55F 08/23 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aoishingo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:vicky600要不要公布你1運動後多久吃 2吃啥?</span><span class="push-right">56F 08/24 01:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每天運動一小時跑步機+踩腳踏車各半小時..之後吃ㄧ個三明</span><span class="push-right">57F 08/25 21:20</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:治加紅茶一杯..本來就吃這樣當早餐...回上數七樓.減肥誰</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會吃點心.而且吃這樣是一般早餐份量.所以這篇文章怪怪</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也詢問過男生.他們說運動後吃東西是長肌肉最快的辦法.</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky600</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:聽完之後就很傻眼..不然大家有什麼別的看法?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">teryykyo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會不會是置底文說的那個?</span><span class="push-right">62F 08/25 21:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AQUAWATERS</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:少無聊了 我運動後馬上吃也是瘦了十幾公斤</span><span class="push-right">63F 08/26 20:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">boyen3</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:以我來說 我運動完喝了一杯無糖綠600cc 一罐咖啡600cc</span><span class="push-right">64F 08/26 20:50</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">boyen3</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:然後再吃一碗 韓式海陸烏龍麵 我估700卡 還是瘦了10KG以上</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">boyen3</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:減肥前184/90 現在184/79</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">boyen3</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:完全不覺得運動完吃東西會肥...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:vicky你說的沒錯啊~我文章的確有提到這會幫助肌肉增長啊...</span><span class="push-right">68F 08/26 21:17</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是減肥的人吃進同樣的養分,不變肌肉難道想變脂肪嗎...?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteman0725</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:肌肉比較多 脂肪相對耗比較快啊 vicky600不用擔心會變</span><span class="push-right">70F 08/26 21:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteman0725</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:"金鋼芭比" 肌肉多一點是有好處的 新陳代謝會變快 最</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteman0725</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:後想胖還不容易胖呢(除非肌肉變少)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">halulu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我看vicky想把吃進去的熱量變空氣吧 -_- 長肌肉有啥不好</span><span class="push-right">73F 08/26 22:54</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">halulu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難不成要長肥肉唷</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">clemens22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有人就是只願相信自己的錯誤經驗,跟毫無根據的傳說</span><span class="push-right">75F 08/27 00:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">clemens22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:也不願接受專業的說法</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Rsew</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推專業呀</span><span class="push-right">77F 08/29 16:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">KsSteven</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:長肌肉會讓身體曲線更好看 幹嘛不長?</span><span class="push-right">78F 08/31 14:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">KsSteven</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:肌肉不要像運動員那樣子發達就好</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">KsSteven</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且也才一公斤= = 計較什麼?= =</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">KsSteven</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不然去當兵好了 我同學去當兵三週 掉了六公斤= =</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">KerKerKerKer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:邪靈斬</span><span class="push-right">82F 09/05 17:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteman0725</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:斜泥擾目!</span><span class="push-right">83F 09/06 13:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">newnormore</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我想請問 如果下班後都六七點 那去跑完步後 再吃晚餐</span><span class="push-right">84F 09/07 12:14</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">newnormore</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有可能過了八點後吃 有關係嗎 因為有聽說不要太晚吃</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aipc</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當兵也只有新訓時候會瘦 下部隊 保證變胖</span><span class="push-right">86F 09/08 16:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dearwith</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇寫的好</span><span class="push-right">87F 10/31 08:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rainbowshou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:天哪 不推行嗎</span><span class="push-right">88F 11/07 15:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">KousukeAtari</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:邪靈斬</span><span class="push-right">89F 11/16 18:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shuwei</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不好意思~我想問下這裡所謂的"運動後進食"指的是正餐嗎?</span><span class="push-right">90F 11/25 15:57</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shuwei</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為我過去的習慣都是飯後一小時運動...不過...= =</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">myart1017</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推不躁進的觀念!心急和強迫減肥只會更想吃東西</span><span class="push-right">92F 01/09 12:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vimiq</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:第一次看到運動後反而可以吃東西.以前都快要餓死了不敢吃</span><span class="push-right">93F 02/01 01:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">greeceliu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我都運動後吃晚餐 身上的肉都沒少 但體重卻下降了咧...</span><span class="push-right">94F 02/14 12:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lotus12350</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:1公斤不用太緊張 說不定是便秘大便的重量</span><span class="push-right">95F 02/27 20:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有正常的運動其實不用刻意迴避睡前吃東西...不過腸胃科醫生</span><span class="push-right">96F 03/24 17:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可能會不建議吧,睡前吃東西代表胃帶著東西平躺...對食道</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有可能會有不好的影響,宵夜要吃就要吃好消化的東西(如流質</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aqaqm</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:東榮牌減肥刀這各廣告好好笑喔...不知道還有沒有其他的減肥?</span><span class="push-right">99F 03/25 09:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wangtsaok</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:您好 請問健身腳踏車有阻力好還是不要有阻力好?</span><span class="push-right">100F 04/07 13:25</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wangtsaok</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我家的阻力可以調的 會不會阻力練成大塊肌肉?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:建議組力調到最小,但是原因不是會讓你肌肉變大,而是這樣</span><span class="push-right">102F 04/29 00:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">senjor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:比較接近有氧。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wangtsaok</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝您~我會努力的! 為了健康!! 變胖後扁桃腺常常發炎..</span><span class="push-right">104F 04/30 16:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a25103</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文~我現在也在努一減肥中</span><span class="push-right">105F 05/06 15:29</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">a25103</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且已經開始跟著同學上健身房運動囉~</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">m4ru8x8</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一公斤也有可能是肌肉的重量吧@@</span><span class="push-right">107F 06/01 12:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">manaq</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果家裡沒有健身車呢? 而且我膝蓋有病= ="</span><span class="push-right">108F 06/08 23:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">freezlydone</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文章 推!!!</span><span class="push-right">109F 07/11 12:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">x80378</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有希望了!!</span><span class="push-right">110F 07/14 12:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cosmosChun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想請問運動後進食是正餐嗎?是的話 就是餓肚子運動嗎?</span><span class="push-right">111F 08/29 19:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">anraye</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上,先讓肚子內有點東西再去運動,運動完再放入整個正餐</span><span class="push-right">112F 09/02 00:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rr741218</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push 太久沒注意 居然漏看這篇這麼好的文章</span><span class="push-right">113F 09/17 12:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rita74103</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:給了我大的信心</span><span class="push-right">114F 12/04 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">love5397</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://bit.ly/gsEwcK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/gsEwcK</a></span><span class="push-right">115F 01/13 21:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ridosa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/4zbxt6c" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/4zbxt6c</a></span><span class="push-right">116F 01/25 22:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">elvis0313</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!!優質文!!</span><span class="push-right">117F 05/23 22:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joy1472002</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!!</span><span class="push-right">118F 06/09 19:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cococc</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!!!!!!!讚!!!y</span><span class="push-right">119F 06/20 22:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yucker</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 體重增加又如何 重點是塑身~!!</span><span class="push-right">120F 07/15 22:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wantccy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文,我要繼續努力!</span><span class="push-right">121F 08/06 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">summeruse</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:運動過後吃東西 這個要好好試一試,一直以為要等30mins</span><span class="push-right">122F 08/19 02:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">viva05</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:毅力真的很重要</span><span class="push-right">123F 08/20 23:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ii9</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推毅力!!!! 我要變瘦子~~~~~而且是吃不胖的瘦子!!!</span><span class="push-right">124F 08/24 05:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Y3UP6</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想請問一下瘦多少會產生肥胖紋啊?例如想從70-55會嗎?謝謝</span><span class="push-right">125F 08/24 12:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">viviane1226</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 真的有幫助~</span><span class="push-right">126F 11/20 16:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Kenver</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:受益良多!!</span><span class="push-right">127F 12/28 14:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mikan0622</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!!!!!! 一開始就節食超難瘦的啦><</span><span class="push-right">128F 12/29 20:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a0952916353</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDgKJ1sNc8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDgKJ1sNc8</a></span><span class="push-right">129F 12/31 23:49</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDgKJ1sNc8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>07 運動後吃東西可以減肥 - YouTube</strong></a>
國軍花蓮總醫院 減肥門診 教學影片</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/wgDgKJ1sNc8?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/wgDgKJ1sNc8/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jlovewinner</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好讚唷 大推推推 糾正了我多年錯誤觀念:D</span><span class="push-right">130F 04/18 01:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pushman</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push</span><span class="push-right">131F 05/09 23:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jessie1629</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:下定決心開始正確的減重方式!!</span><span class="push-right">132F 07/12 14:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ru8m42266</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推!!!</span><span class="push-right">133F 09/01 11:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">teaistea</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有運動習慣之後飲食習慣也會變好喔!例如不想喝甜的之類的</span><span class="push-right">134F 09/11 07:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bb56125612</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想減重就填份健康體重諮詢表</span><span class="push-right">135F 09/15 00:49</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bb56125612</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這對你們幫助會很大</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bb56125612</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:**此網頁無毒**</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bb56125612</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formke" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formke</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formke" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Google Drive -- Page Not Found</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bb56125612</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:y=dHNtNDh0c1ZaRjZQOXVVY1dibWFMNEE6MQ</span><span class="push-right">139F 09/15 00:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce238</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有在不知道是這期還是上一期的康健雜誌上看到,他說運</span><span class="push-right">140F 09/16 21:35</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce238</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:動後其實是可以進食的,但是是選擇"輕食",選擇好的優質</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce238</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:的蛋白質+澱粉是可以修補運動時肌肉中蛋白質的失去(意思</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce238</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不多是這樣,詳細我要再去看個仔細),而且也說運動完輕食</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce238</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:,多少也能減輕運動後隔天酸痛感的程度(雜誌上說的)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kaede1023min</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近剛升大學太開心了結果今天量體重被眼前的數字給</span><span class="push-right">145F 10/13 22:47</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">kaede1023min</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嚇傻了!!!! 而且明顯感覺到褲子變緊肚子變凸臉變圓,</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">kaede1023min</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我真的要好好下定決心好好減肥了!!這篇文十分受用!!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">olyy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推喔 好用</span><span class="push-right">148F 10/15 11:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chinigemi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推阿~!我是跑步30分+簡單重訓!!吃東西也不忌口,運動完</span><span class="push-right">149F 10/16 22:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">chinigemi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:接著吃晚餐,體重是減的很緩慢啦,不過體態慢慢結實</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">chinigemi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:個人覺得這樣很健康啦..唯一改的就是幾乎都喝水</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">chinigemi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:若是飲料的話,基本上以茶飲為主,而且都是無糖!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">babytiger</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:實用推!</span><span class="push-right">153F 01/14 09:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">phobia18</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只要有有正常的飲食搭配運動,一定會瘦只是時間的問題</span><span class="push-right">154F 02/04 10:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">freesonya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果運動完吃吃水果也OK?我之前都是運動前後1HR再吃</span><span class="push-right">155F 03/30 14:35</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">freesonya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果可以運動後吃就太好了(運動前吃東西會胃痛!QQ)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">oceaneye</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:節食超累的呀!!! 餓肚子的時候連心情都會不好耶!</span><span class="push-right">157F 04/24 14:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">anny0487561</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問健身車是指x-bike那種嗎?</span><span class="push-right">158F 04/28 08:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">blueblur</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:運動後真的可以變瘦?我上次怎麽都沒有?</span><span class="push-right">159F 05/25 07:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">peachcindy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!!</span><span class="push-right">160F 06/04 12:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tivi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,很實用</span><span class="push-right">161F 06/09 00:23</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">qzw137799764</span><span style="color:#808000">:努力減肥中><</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abis1107</span><span style="color:#808000">:希望這次會成功:)</span>
讚 jonaswang01:推推
→ <span style="color:#FF0">StarMoonCat</span><span style="color:#808000">:節食過度會掉頭髮並不好,而且想要瘦的漂亮,正確的運動和飲食才是好的。</span>
讚 howar31:<a href="http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/BeautyBody/M.1210657484.A.45D.html" target="_blank">http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/BeautyBody/M.1210657484.A.45D.html</a></div></pre>
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[心得] 給新手的一些建議
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2006-04-30T15:17:03+08:00
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之前我在寫置底文的時候,是希望給新手一些簡短有力的指導方針,
不過這幾個禮拜看文下來,錯誤的觀念還是不斷出現,或許新手
之所以是新手,就是他們從來不爬文吧,總之,我也只能盡人事聽天命了,
這篇要是再沒有用,我就要把這個版從我的最愛移除了。
給新手的一些建議:
1. 要減肥不要減重:
體重只是一個數字,BMI也只能當作參考,真正重要的是體脂率,也就是你
身體裡到底有多少不必要的脂肪,阿諾史瓦辛格的體重跟BMI肯定都高的嚇
人,Michael Jordan的體重也絕對比一般人高的多,但是他們的身體卻是
多少人追求的目標,只要脂肪去除,體態自然會輕盈好看,一個體重很輕
卻充滿脂肪的人,健康絕對好不到哪裡去,有必要為了斤斤計較幾公斤把
身體搞壞嗎?
2. 減肥是一時,但健身是一輩子的事:
很多人減肥失敗或是復胖都是因為心態沒有調整好,以為可以用短期的、
方便的、投機取巧的方式讓自己快速減肥,然後在達到目標體重後就回
到原來的生活模式,這也難怪,一個人會胖,無非就是因為多吃少動,
可以開車就不走路、可以坐電梯就不爬樓梯,可以坐著看書就絕不站著
看,這種生活習慣幾乎是過了青少年時期就很難改的,人總 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> FITNESS </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> chungg (杜若)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [心得] 給新手的一些建議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Apr 30 15:17:03 2006</div><hr color="#008080" />
之前我在寫置底文的時候,是希望給新手一些簡短有力的指導方針,
不過這幾個禮拜看文下來,錯誤的觀念還是不斷出現,或許新手
之所以是新手,就是他們從來不爬文吧,總之,我也只能盡人事聽天命了,
這篇要是再沒有用,我就要把這個版從我的最愛移除了。
給新手的一些建議:
1. <span style="color:#F0F000">要減肥不要減重</span>:
<div class="combine-lines">體重只是一個數字,BMI也只能當作參考,真正重要的是體脂率,也就是你
身體裡到底有多少不必要的脂肪,阿諾史瓦辛格的體重跟BMI肯定都高的嚇
人,Michael Jordan的體重也絕對比一般人高的多,但是他們的身體卻是
多少人追求的目標,只要脂肪去除,體態自然會輕盈好看,一個體重很輕
卻充滿脂肪的人,健康絕對好不到哪裡去,有必要為了斤斤計較幾公斤把
身體搞壞嗎?</div>
2. <span style="color:#F0F000">減肥是一時,但健身是一輩子的事</span>:
很多人減肥失敗或是復胖都是因為心態沒有調整好,以為可以用短期的、
<div class="combine-lines">方便的、投機取巧的方式讓自己快速減肥,然後在達到目標體重後就回
到原來的生活模式,這也難怪,一個人會胖,無非就是因為多吃少動,
可以開車就不走路、可以坐電梯就不爬樓梯,可以坐著看書就絕不站著
看,這種生活習慣幾乎是過了青少年時期就很難改的,人總是有太多藉</div>
口,要上課要上班要吃飯要出去玩,但就是找不出三十分鐘讓自己動一下,
當你覺得運動是一件痛苦的事,理所當然你就會把他排在待辦事項的最後
一位,於是乎會想抄捷徑走小路也不意外。問題是,體重這東西就像蹺蹺板,
<div class="combine-lines">不是向上就是向下,要維持平衡非得小心翼翼不可。就算你每天只是比消耗
的熱量多吃了一百卡,體重也是會上升,就好像蹺蹺板只要有一點點不平衡
就會往一邊倒一樣。這就是為什麼減重或增重都不難,要維持在理想體重</div>
卻很困難的原因,因為一個良好的生活習慣,非得從心態上徹底調整不可,
就算你花三個月減了二十公斤,但接下來每個月復胖一公斤,那也只要
一年半體重就會全部回來,一個月胖一公斤很難嗎?不,只要每天多攝取
250大卡,相當於一個波羅麵包,熱量就是這麼殘酷。
3. <span style="color:#F0F000">搞清楚減脂的熱量計算</span>:
一公斤的脂肪,要消耗7700卡的熱量才能從身上消失,但這7700卡,指的是
每天<span style="color:#F0F000">多</span>消耗,而且真正<span style="color:#F0F000">從身上脂肪</span>消耗的7700卡。不管
你每天做多少有氧運動,也不管你吃的食物裡有沒有脂肪,如果你攝取的
總熱量比你消耗的總熱量多,那有氧運動消耗的脂肪還是會從食物裡合成回來
的。不管你吃的是什麼純乳清蛋白、去皮的雞胸肉、0%脂肪的牛奶,攝取多於消耗,
身體都可以把這些醣類、蛋白質轉成脂肪儲存起來。相反的,只要你消耗大於
攝取,就算有吃進脂肪,身體也會把他消耗掉。因此,熱量的控制是非常
重要的,一個不小心,你就可能在增肥而非減肥。
4. <span style="color:#F0F000">熱量要控制,但飲食要均衡</span>:
<div class="combine-lines">許多身體的反應需要有脂肪來進行,許多優異膽固醇需要不飽和脂肪酸來合成,
許多脂溶性維他命要溶在脂肪才能被身體吸收,完全不吃脂肪,反而阻礙身體機
能的正常運作,讓基礎代謝率下降,對減脂反而是壞事,所以,雖然聽起來很矛</div>
盾,但攝取優良脂肪,像是魚油、葵花子油,反而能幫助我們減脂,重點是總熱量
要低,前面已經說過了,熱量不控制,無脂飲食一樣可以讓你胖。
5. <span style="color:#F0F000">飲食要均衡、運動也要均衡:</span>
<div class="combine-lines">重量訓練可以幫助你增強或是維持肌肉,同時提升基礎代謝率,而有氧運動
可以儘可能的消耗脂肪,兩者缺一不可,都是減肥的重要關鍵。只做重訓,
身體會著重於合成肌肉,體脂下降慢; 而只做有氧,基礎代謝率提升有限,</div>
總消耗熱量就低,對減脂都不是好事,所以均衡的雙管齊下是最好的。但要記
住,重訓跟有氧不要同一天做,會降低效率,如果真的時間有限,請先做
重訓再做有氧,理由可以見我之前的文章。
6. <span style="color:#F0F000">沒有任何一種運動可以消除局部脂肪:</span>
沒有任何一種運動被研究證明過可以局部消脂,period。局部運動
<div class="combine-lines">只會加強局部肌肉,但肌肉歸肌肉,脂肪歸脂肪,肌肉跟覆蓋
在上面的脂肪並不相連,運動任何一個部分的脂肪都不會導致</div>
該部位的脂肪被直接消耗,肌肉消耗的脂肪酸是從血液來的,而血液
<div class="combine-lines">中的脂肪酸從那個地方分解,是由身體的基因統一操控,每個人的基
因都不相同,有些人就是容易瘦臉、有些人容易瘦大腿、有些人容易
瘦胸部,這是先天的無法改善,我們只能祈禱最後全身都會瘦下來。
</div>
7. <span style="color:#F0F000">也沒有任何一種瘦身霜有用:</span>
<div class="combine-lines">如果有,發明這東西的會先申請專利、然後向FDA要求在美國當藥品
使用,然後跟viagra一樣大賺一筆,事實就是商人靠著大家盲目的</div>
心態在賺黑心錢,使用者抱著死馬當活馬醫的心態付錢買心安,然後
被騙以後還安慰自己多少有效。事實上,所有有效的人都是因為同時
有在運動,而皮膚變光滑是當然的,任何一種護身乳液都可以達到
類似的效果。
8. <span style="color:#F0F000">訂立可行的目標,避免不切實際的幻想:</span>
<div class="combine-lines">再次強調,減去脂肪才是最重要的,而減重很容易,減脂卻非常困難。
人體有百分之七十是水,要減去幾公斤的體重只要營養不良加上脫水把
身體搞壞,體重就會直直落,可是復胖也非常快。要減肥,請依照</div>
以下公式做合理的預估,避免不切實際的幻想,導致最後目標沒達成
又開始自暴自棄,反而欲速而不達。
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">首先,請測量自己的體脂率</span>,要嘛去買一個體脂計,要嘛去康是美請
人幫你量<span style="color:#F0F000">。知道自己的體脂率之後</span>,算出自己身上有多少脂肪,再設
定一個合理的體脂目標,<span style="color:#F0F000">算出總共應該減掉多少脂肪</span>,最後<span style="color:#F0F000">套用</span></div>
<span style="color:#F0F000">一公斤脂肪要消耗7700卡的公式,算出合理的減肥進度表。</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">例一:</span>
某男體重一百公斤、體脂率30%,假設他希望把體脂降到15%
100kg*30%=30kg, 所以我們知道他身上有30公斤脂肪,另外70公斤
是肌肉、骨頭、跟水,那70除以85%=82.35, 100-82.35=17.65,
<div class="combine-lines">我們知道他必須將體重降到82.35,並減掉17.65公斤的脂肪,才能夠
達到15%的體脂率,又根據一公斤7700大卡的公式,他必須額外消耗
7700*17.65=135905大卡才行。以保守的估計,如果一天跑步一小時</div>
或是重訓一小時,如果可以消耗脂肪300大卡,那至少需要135905/300
=453天才行,也就是一年又三個月左右,要低於這個時間,不是
得非常拼,就是會危害健康,或是難以維持。
<span style="color:#F0F000">例二:</span>
某女體重55公斤、體脂率30%,希望降到20%。
55kg*70%=38.5
38.5/80%= 48.125
55-48.125=6.875
6.875*7700=52937.5
<div class="combine-lines">所以她至少需要消耗52937.5大卡的熱量才能降到20%的體脂率,
假設她非常拼命,一天可以消耗500大卡的脂肪(非常不可能),
那至少也需要52937.5/500=105.875天才能達成,也就是超過</div>
三個月。
由上兩例可知,減脂真的不是一件容易的事,如果對這些熱量計算
公式沒有一定認識,很容易就會立下不可能達成的目標,結果
期望越大失望也越大,等到計畫失敗,不是病急亂投醫就是自暴自棄,
<div class="combine-lines">結果不但沒達成目標可能還傷了身體,合理的計畫不但可以讓自己
控制進度,也可以讓自己不會像無頭蒼蠅一樣成天量體重,才減肥</div>
不到兩天就開始抱怨沒有成效。要知道,減肥是為了自己健康,不是為了
區區幾個數字,這是一場長期抗戰,終其一生都不會停止,只有
不斷堅持,才能看到成果,任何捷徑都是一時的,欲速而不達
這個道理在減肥上一樣適用。
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醉裡且貪歡笑,要愁那得工夫。近來始覺古人書。信著全無是處。
昨夜松邊醉倒,問松我醉何如。只疑松動要來扶。以手推松曰去。
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sheepmaymay</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推</span><span class="push-right">1F 04/30 16:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteucz</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">2F 04/30 16:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Cezaill</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">3F 04/30 16:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">snake622</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">4F 04/30 16:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aatai</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:棒棒!!!</span><span class="push-right">5F 04/30 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FlyinDeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:置底吧版主~</span><span class="push-right">6F 04/30 18:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Aragami</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">7F 04/30 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rainbowstar</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">8F 04/30 21:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">renoma</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">9F 04/30 21:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">takumis</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小弟覺得不只是新手,每位板友都該看一遍</span><span class="push-right">10F 04/30 21:43</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">takumis</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:檢視自己是否有觀念不正確而需要修正之處</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">takumis</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另外給chungg板友,小弟覺得不爬文的小X是不可能絕跡的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">takumis</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不要為了那些人而對整個板失望,我們是需要您的!</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">takumis</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對於不爬文的小X,頂多在推文中請他看置底文就是了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joycemu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!讚!</span><span class="push-right">15F 04/30 23:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">yangjiy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:強烈請求版主M起來並置底</span><span class="push-right">16F 04/30 23:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aoishingo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:@@ 一天跑步1小時只消耗300大卡 那麼少嗎 > <'' (抖)</span><span class="push-right">17F 05/01 00:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sarada</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推一個</span><span class="push-right">18F 05/01 00:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ktlning</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~</span><span class="push-right">19F 05/01 01:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mion106</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真不錯耶~寫得真好~~</span><span class="push-right">20F 05/01 11:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yingyu86</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有些觀念真的會讓人驚醒呢~~例如局部瘦身的觀念...</span><span class="push-right">21F 05/01 19:13</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">yingyu86</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:能不能借我PO在我自己的BLOG呢? 謝謝喔^^</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">editors</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒錯!跑步能消耗的就是那麼多,所以要吃少多運動</span><span class="push-right">23F 05/01 23:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chungg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:歡迎轉錄,記得註明作者及出處即可</span><span class="push-right">24F 05/02 04:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sutetsuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推~這可以置底嗎?</span><span class="push-right">25F 05/02 22:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bigbo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:@@!</span><span class="push-right">26F 05/02 22:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">noee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推~~好觀念~每個要減肥都應該看過N遍才行</span><span class="push-right">27F 05/04 09:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rosywhite</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對我來說是很適用的東西!!GOOD!!</span><span class="push-right">28F 05/06 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">casalina</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推~~真是簡單又明瞭的觀念~~~</span><span class="push-right">29F 05/11 10:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eyecandy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:受益良多...^^</span><span class="push-right">30F 05/21 21:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Asuero</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:清楚明瞭 點破迷思...:)</span><span class="push-right">31F 06/11 14:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vous</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫的真好</span><span class="push-right">32F 06/24 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fanlly</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇好!</span><span class="push-right">33F 07/11 10:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dunkan1</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推 真好~</span><span class="push-right">34F 07/12 09:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LastO</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文,簡單又明瞭。</span><span class="push-right">35F 07/14 05:29</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LastO</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:卡和大卡是一樣的嗎?第八條之前的是卡 例一後面變大卡?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chungg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:前後都是指大卡,其實現在很少用卡當單位了,很多人都混著用</span><span class="push-right">37F 07/14 12:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hdm</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文,受益良多,推!!!</span><span class="push-right">38F 07/30 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">librarypp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,大家都應該看!</span><span class="push-right">39F 08/25 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bigbow555</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">40F 08/31 09:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tetsuwin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~^^</span><span class="push-right">41F 09/08 20:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">han223</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我轉載在我的網誌~還需要著明什麼嗎!?</span><span class="push-right">42F 09/14 21:41</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">han223</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/han23/vv/8130300" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xuite.net/han23/vv/8130300</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/han23/vv/8130300" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>減肥的一些建議 @ 缺乏 :: 隨意窩 Xuite日誌</strong></a>
<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/han23/vv/8130300" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="100" data-ori_h="100" style="width:100px;height:100px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://blog.xuite.net/han23/vv/8130300/cover600.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>出處:PTT/看板《FITNESS》/作者chungg給新手的一些建議:1. 要減肥不要減重:體重只是一個數字,BMI也只能當作參考,真正重要的是體脂率,也就是你身體裡到底有多少不必要的脂肪,阿諾史瓦辛格的體重跟BMI肯定都高的嚇人,Michael Jordan的體重也絕對比一般人高的多,但是他們的 ...</div></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chungg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:給樓上,這樣就可以了。</span><span class="push-right">44F 09/16 12:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">han223</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝^_^</span><span class="push-right">45F 09/17 02:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">CaltechJPL</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">46F 09/19 15:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">reinforce</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push</span><span class="push-right">47F 09/24 22:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sonoma</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問為什麼例一體重是乘30%例二卻是乘70%?</span><span class="push-right">48F 10/15 07:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chungg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:例一是脂肪的重量,例二是肌肉跟其他東西的重量......</span><span class="push-right">49F 10/16 08:52</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">chungg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請仔細再看一遍,我想這應該只是單純的數學.........</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mikishine</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嗯嗯!!GOOD~學習學習...^^</span><span class="push-right">51F 10/21 21:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">benboo19</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫的真好耶!!</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/24 11:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">deil123</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝,真的學到很多。</span><span class="push-right">53F 03/03 20:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">elephant015</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫得真好!!可以轉載到我的網誌上嗎?謝謝</span><span class="push-right">54F 03/04 13:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">swwf</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推推推推推,醍醐灌頂,茅塞頓開啊。</span><span class="push-right">55F 04/01 19:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">happy94</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:例一70/85%是代表什麼呢 又100-82.5是什麼呢 thx</span><span class="push-right">56F 04/10 09:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LSB3</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">57F 04/17 02:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Nereid4230</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我們只能祈禱最後全身都會瘦下來...推這句!!</span><span class="push-right">58F 05/03 21:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cutty</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:獲益良多!!!</span><span class="push-right">59F 06/18 04:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">diub</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑一個小時﹐隻是為了一塊菠蘿面包﹐哎﹐路漫漫啊~~</span><span class="push-right">60F 07/22 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ky5689</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:h大..你真的不懂?..我真的很懷疑...</span><span class="push-right">61F 07/22 21:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">RCOH</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:獲益良多!!!推推推推推</span><span class="push-right">62F 09/07 02:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Nikkim</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑步和走路是否懂同消耗???</span><span class="push-right">63F 10/02 10:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iamshiuan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推</span><span class="push-right">64F 10/04 20:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">peaceisland</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">65F 11/06 22:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">omiha</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以借轉到網誌上嗎?</span><span class="push-right">66F 11/26 02:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">mayrnee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以借轉嗎?</span><span class="push-right">67F 12/03 22:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">celebrity</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:獲益良多+1</span><span class="push-right">68F 12/18 08:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gerry31418</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉批踢踢2</span><span class="push-right">69F 12/20 23:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lancelet</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉ptt2</span><span class="push-right">70F 12/27 11:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">JKHo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉到網誌上....謝謝</span><span class="push-right">71F 01/05 22:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">justya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌</span><span class="push-right">72F 04/09 23:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">comlcs</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:good</span><span class="push-right">73F 04/11 10:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">apple32988</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推 超詳細的!!!!</span><span class="push-right">74F 04/14 19:59</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">apple32988</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉PTT2</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">blackpenguin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌</span><span class="push-right">76F 06/05 11:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cycjansport</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看這個版不只長肌肉 還長知識耶</span><span class="push-right">77F 06/08 10:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eden1024</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉文 會附上原po作者^^</span><span class="push-right">78F 06/16 01:21</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">eden1024</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 DWU</span> 06/16 01:22</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kinba</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌,會標示作者和出處^^</span><span class="push-right">79F 07/12 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nmg0113</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推推</span><span class="push-right">80F 07/24 13:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cramon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌~會附作者和出處</span><span class="push-right">81F 07/27 21:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mingwhale31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌~會標示作者和出處 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">82F 08/25 14:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">crystlhsu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉文 會附作者的</span><span class="push-right">83F 09/01 20:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">liginbiantie</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌~會附作者和出處 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">84F 09/02 14:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">swordstar</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一公斤脂肪要消耗7700卡﹐還是7700大卡﹖</span><span class="push-right">85F 09/04 11:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zixflower</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉文 會附作者的和出處 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">86F 09/19 08:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tus</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉</span><span class="push-right">87F 09/30 21:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">madturtle</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:卡和大卡都是指calorie(=4.18焦耳) 吧~</span><span class="push-right">88F 10/15 19:11</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">madturtle</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹我錯了...1卡=1cal=4.18J; 1大卡=1Cal=1000cal=4.18kj</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">madturtle</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這樣才對,一般在算都是大卡,也就是大寫的"Calorie"</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">edcamel</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉PTT2</span><span class="push-right">91F 11/30 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tara5105</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推推!我也在減肥中!這篇文寫的太好啦!!</span><span class="push-right">92F 12/31 02:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bokaka620</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉伊莉論壇,並註名出處和作者。如有不妥,立即刪除。</span><span class="push-right">93F 02/01 11:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">godamnshock</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很實在的一篇文!</span><span class="push-right">94F 02/05 00:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">linjingyu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:長期抗脂戰~革命尚未成功,同志仍須努力!!!</span><span class="push-right">95F 02/18 22:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">madwindfeng</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:NICE JOB</span><span class="push-right">96F 02/20 09:25</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">madwindfeng</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌,並註名出處和作者。如有不妥,立即刪除</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">alohaiscool</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉P2</span><span class="push-right">98F 02/21 09:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Iserlon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push</span><span class="push-right">99F 02/25 18:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">purin59</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌,會標示作者和出處 ^_^</span><span class="push-right">100F 02/27 02:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tdxd</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:轉借批吐,感謝</span><span class="push-right">101F 03/11 22:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LuciferXI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有看有推!</span><span class="push-right">102F 03/17 16:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ocean01</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推...好文章</span><span class="push-right">103F 03/18 19:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tooshin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推+++有看有保佑</span><span class="push-right">104F 03/22 03:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a15550203778</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好推!!!!!有明確的文章!!!</span><span class="push-right">105F 03/27 23:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yuffiebala</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉ptt2個版 感謝!</span><span class="push-right">106F 04/06 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cutedoremi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉ptt2個版 感謝!</span><span class="push-right">107F 04/21 12:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BearFather</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好</span><span class="push-right">108F 04/21 22:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tc89</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上面那篇怎麼掛掉了</span><span class="push-right">109F 05/19 17:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">montrita</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌,會附作者與出處 非常感謝</span><span class="push-right">110F 05/21 18:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wei0816</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真的很實在~~~good 借轉網誌會附作者與出處~感謝</span><span class="push-right">111F 05/22 21:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aryfish</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉P2個版 :)</span><span class="push-right">112F 05/23 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bct172</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉謝謝!!</span><span class="push-right">113F 05/26 00:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a92312140</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推 我一直都是在迷思中過來的</span><span class="push-right">114F 05/27 23:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cychangcs</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推...就甘心欸</span><span class="push-right">115F 06/01 18:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">laude88</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌,感恩!!</span><span class="push-right">116F 06/09 11:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dcop</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推這篇文章</span><span class="push-right">117F 06/11 20:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">epsongreen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以瘦身霜真的沒有效喔!!!哭哭~才剛買一條</span><span class="push-right">118F 06/15 10:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">McKing</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">119F 06/17 15:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">reink1177</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">120F 06/17 19:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">d821024</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啞鈴要買哪一種的?</span><span class="push-right">121F 06/21 15:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tuim</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問BB版怎麼走?</span><span class="push-right">122F 06/25 18:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteanoa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">123F 06/28 08:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">woofer0320</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌 感恩</span><span class="push-right">124F 07/05 13:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Apexer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:多謝版大 值得大大推 ~ 爆</span><span class="push-right">125F 07/10 18:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nity</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">126F 07/13 13:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hwro913136</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~爆</span><span class="push-right">127F 07/13 19:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yeeting</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推!!!!</span><span class="push-right">128F 07/17 00:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kevin760323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很實用 謝謝 希望我能不要鬆垮垮了</span><span class="push-right">129F 07/27 19:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">youngjay224</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝~</span><span class="push-right">130F 07/30 11:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">flace</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真的是專業 正確的觀念 減肥路 別走歪 而 傷身喔</span><span class="push-right">131F 08/10 19:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wxyz010207</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:解說精闢!! 借轉網誌 感謝您!</span><span class="push-right">132F 08/23 01:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pjj52897</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好棒阿!!推推!!</span><span class="push-right">133F 08/24 16:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jcyuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這還有效率跟執行力的問題 如果兩樣你都一樣擅長</span><span class="push-right">134F 08/31 08:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jcyuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推錯XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shinyping</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!!! 體脂肪我該找誰測?</span><span class="push-right">136F 09/11 14:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">geraldson</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">137F 09/26 23:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">unholy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉ptt2個版</span><span class="push-right">138F 10/09 09:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">celestel</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請借我轉貼網誌,謝謝您^^</span><span class="push-right">139F 10/17 13:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Justloveu23</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請借我轉貼,謝謝您~~這是正確的觀念</span><span class="push-right">140F 10/18 15:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">echovan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉! 謝謝!</span><span class="push-right">141F 10/19 12:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">inianho</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看完以後真的覺得獲益良多耶~~ 我最近也要開始減肥 -3-</span><span class="push-right">142F 10/27 23:48</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">inianho</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一來是因為健康問題,二來是因為想變比較瘦 T^T 衣服比較好</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">inianho</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好找 -3-</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eva198629</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推 借轉網誌 好讚得一篇文 ㄎㄎ</span><span class="push-right">145F 12/06 23:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Lrj</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網址 感謝</span><span class="push-right">146F 12/10 14:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">thisisting</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:剛加入PTT就看到這篇,好的開始對吧=]</span><span class="push-right">147F 12/12 20:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ennru</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:破除迷思 必推!</span><span class="push-right">148F 12/14 13:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kofunion</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推</span><span class="push-right">149F 12/17 23:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sjsohot</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推!!!燃起我減脂運動的欲望!!!</span><span class="push-right">150F 12/20 01:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">stonybrook</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看一次推一次阿XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">151F 01/27 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">babycat1128</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:7700"大"卡 有時候會漏掉"大"</span><span class="push-right">152F 02/06 19:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vivalasvegas</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看一次推一次</span><span class="push-right">153F 02/12 02:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">breadgirls</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉~謝謝大大分享︿︿很多觀念被糾正!!!</span><span class="push-right">154F 04/06 00:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">su1232001</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉批兔個板</span><span class="push-right">155F 04/12 13:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">asyuu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝很受用唷:)</span><span class="push-right">156F 04/13 07:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">peikky</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:減肥的正確觀念真的很重要!推!!!</span><span class="push-right">157F 04/21 23:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">e7hax0r</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推 借轉網誌</span><span class="push-right">158F 05/24 21:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">miniv0427</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推----正確觀念真的很重要阿!!!</span><span class="push-right">159F 05/31 19:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">aid60210</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">160F 06/03 21:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">stupidfox</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問可以借我轉貼網誌嗎^^ 感肌</span><span class="push-right">161F 06/08 07:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">canifly</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借我轉貼在FB上唷 會註明出處 謝謝~</span><span class="push-right">162F 06/11 14:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hcctom</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉個版 感謝 :)</span><span class="push-right">163F 06/13 19:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">konashi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉到個版</span><span class="push-right">164F 06/27 08:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Krynn</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝~~</span><span class="push-right">165F 07/05 14:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">j5334299</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推!!</span><span class="push-right">166F 07/13 21:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">evilbank</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:======================朝聖=========================</span><span class="push-right">167F 07/21 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">small2222</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我第一次看到這種文章,我覺得超棒的</span><span class="push-right">168F 07/22 11:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">d455692</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這才是減重的意義啊</span><span class="push-right">169F 07/25 02:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ping0911</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝分享^^</span><span class="push-right">170F 07/30 19:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">POO0207</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推推推!!幫助很大~</span><span class="push-right">171F 08/03 19:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">berkay</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:值得深思阿</span><span class="push-right">172F 09/10 00:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">class9104</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文感謝分享~~~~ 請借轉到板上會附原作者的 =)</span><span class="push-right">173F 09/11 23:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ramun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超有用的!!會沒用是因為你使用方法錯誤!!</span><span class="push-right">174F 09/24 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wen12305</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看完之後我覺得我現在該去運動了0.0</span><span class="push-right">175F 10/02 02:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">RUNINTO</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!好文!</span><span class="push-right">176F 10/26 12:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky0521</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:減重前後只有脂肪減少,連肌肉也無變化是不太可能的事</span><span class="push-right">177F 01/25 17:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky0521</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:此種算法是當作一個人減重前後肌肉骨頭和水的重量完全</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky0521</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不變,也就是肌肉並沒有增多,是不太可能的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">vicky0521</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果考慮到肌肉會增加則體脂肪下降的幅度會較大的。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">shian1026</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:愈來愈明顯ㄝ‥‥</span><span class="push-right">181F 03/11 12:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">physicist512</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:淚推...</span><span class="push-right">182F 03/13 11:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">matthew531</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉FB^^!!!</span><span class="push-right">183F 03/19 12:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nightcat1985</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GJ~</span><span class="push-right">184F 04/06 12:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gudon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:多看幾次收穫越多,給個推</span><span class="push-right">185F 06/06 20:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ONLYYUYU</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文</span><span class="push-right">186F 07/13 07:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yf87008</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:怎麼跟我學的1公克脂肪9大卡不一樣啊</span><span class="push-right">187F 08/04 11:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">moon69</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:9大卡是指脂肪能提供的熱量</span><span class="push-right">188F 08/16 00:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">moon69</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這裡是指要燃燒掉脂肪所需的熱量 應該是這樣吧?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">anglejess</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉至PTT2的個版 會註明出處</span><span class="push-right">190F 08/25 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ha410239</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問有大大能回我問題嘛?就是我的基礎代謝率1834這樣算是</span><span class="push-right">191F 09/05 22:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ha410239</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高還是低?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">chihyun1005</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:基代每個年齡階層不一樣,性別也有差~你這樣問誰知.囧</span><span class="push-right">193F 09/07 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lynn</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 導正我很多錯誤觀念 這個版太棒了!</span><span class="push-right">194F 09/17 13:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Dimplessmile</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:now這個美國牌子的酵素搭配大量溫水讓我很快有便意</span><span class="push-right">195F 10/30 13:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bojinhong</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:X</span><span class="push-right">196F 12/15 10:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">s85006011</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有點怪 這樣 均衡飲食 但節食一點 不就變錯誤減肥法....</span><span class="push-right">197F 03/04 10:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tina741224</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我要減"肥"不減重</span><span class="push-right">198F 03/20 12:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pushr</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉給朋友看謝謝^^</span><span class="push-right">199F 04/03 13:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">goodrain</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:然後抓我去的人自己卻沒去了(翻桌) 然後正處於茫然階段XD</span><span class="push-right">200F 04/03 22:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">zirca</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請把單位弄清楚,大卡跟卡差一千倍</span><span class="push-right">201F 04/29 21:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chinting17</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:女生的38.5/80%= 48.125←如何得出這個數字呢???</span><span class="push-right">202F 05/14 13:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jod</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:38.5/0.8 = 48.125?</span><span class="push-right">203F 05/16 11:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">miraculouss</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真是好文!</span><span class="push-right">204F 07/06 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ecoh796</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每次運動到累翻時~~我只覺得豆漿很好喝!!統X義X光X都一樣</span><span class="push-right">205F 08/02 22:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ashley1205</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉網誌^^ 已註明作者與出處</span><span class="push-right">206F 08/23 10:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kazewind22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文~~</span><span class="push-right">207F 08/29 23:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tempoyo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想請問一下,按這樣來說減肥應該是不會有停滯期嗎?會越減</span><span class="push-right">208F 09/20 14:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">tempoyo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:越快對嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">kikicoco168</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:後來一直穿平底..但是有軟墊的鞋.跳有氧穿運動鞋+足跟</span><span class="push-right">210F 10/23 00:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">kikicoco168</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上面推錯..><</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zaq35715987</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文!</span><span class="push-right">212F 12/02 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">p761118</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推推推!!!</span><span class="push-right">213F 12/22 10:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zero1000</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉!</span><span class="push-right">214F 12/27 20:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">she192224</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:誰說減重容易的!Q_q</span><span class="push-right">215F 01/01 21:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wowandy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">216F 01/26 21:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BPpony</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:@@!專業!!!</span><span class="push-right">217F 02/02 19:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zx168zx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:實用~~推</span><span class="push-right">218F 02/08 11:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hickcharlie1</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大力push!</span><span class="push-right">219F 02/08 12:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hahacherry</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:push</span><span class="push-right">220F 02/16 10:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">merton910</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推!!</span><span class="push-right">221F 02/26 19:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">silense</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝大大詳解!!!</span><span class="push-right">222F 03/10 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">POSES</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想問有些人每天吃高熱量且吃很多(超過所需)卻都不會變胖是</span><span class="push-right">223F 05/06 21:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">POSES</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為什麼呢</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">holygoner</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上 除了體質關係之外 我想不到其他答案</span><span class="push-right">225F 05/08 22:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">prund</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉</span><span class="push-right">226F 05/11 06:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">DM16</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚揚...</span><span class="push-right">227F 05/22 14:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">JHC24</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!</span><span class="push-right">228F 07/06 09:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">womandddd</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近認真想減脂 推推</span><span class="push-right">229F 07/13 20:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">star60281</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:體脂計太貴了 沒幾個人買的起吧</span><span class="push-right">230F 08/13 23:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vikannis</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很實用的文</span><span class="push-right">231F 08/15 21:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yihao02831</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推</span><span class="push-right">232F 08/16 02:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Isabel99</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推簽名檔</span><span class="push-right">233F 09/07 09:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iamives</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:實用推!!!</span><span class="push-right">234F 09/11 22:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chapeipei</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!減肥真的要觀念正確!</span><span class="push-right">235F 09/13 03:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hardy780218</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:經典!!</span><span class="push-right">236F 09/13 21:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ww5730</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~~</span><span class="push-right">237F 10/02 15:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ciakee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉個人網誌 會註明出處與作者 謝謝提共</span><span class="push-right">238F 10/15 14:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">arat</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">239F 10/19 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">momo051227</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!我以前也有數字的迷思</span><span class="push-right">240F 12/14 00:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">u83vm06</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推!</span><span class="push-right">241F 12/19 01:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Reno1174</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真是一盞明燈呀</span><span class="push-right">242F 02/18 11:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gisellecho</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">243F 04/05 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Nono1986</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不要說是板友了,就連教練帶你運動心臟都要很大顆了</span><span class="push-right">244F 04/07 13:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">minwen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推!!</span><span class="push-right">245F 04/08 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a2589611</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">246F 04/16 15:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jachin85</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想問一下我朋友天天喝4000cc的水 跑步30分鐘 但體態還是</span><span class="push-right">247F 04/17 19:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jachin85</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很胖..... 問題是出在飲食嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jeff7553</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Push~</span><span class="push-right">249F 05/13 08:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pttblabla</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">250F 05/25 23:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pensivemoon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推</span><span class="push-right">251F 05/28 12:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bithimall</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但也不是甚麼好事啦.......</span><span class="push-right">252F 06/10 10:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lisachuang23</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">253F 06/29 21:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">whhhy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:1</span><span class="push-right">254F 07/06 11:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iring824</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好棒喔!</span><span class="push-right">255F 07/13 16:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MOON760922</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ㄎㄝㄕㄇ</span><span class="push-right">256F 08/01 09:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bcsppxci</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:學習了。</span><span class="push-right">257F 08/06 09:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sb326</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">258F 08/24 09:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">uglytruth</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我不覺得強調體脂肪違反人性,只看體重那是無知</span><span class="push-right">259F 10/07 10:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">uglytruth</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推錯了@@</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">uglytruth</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只看體重我覺得很無知,你覺得假掰應該是你個人想法</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">uglytruth</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 又推錯了,我不推了T T</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">LittleWhitte</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Test</span> 10/07 22:55</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pxndx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看不懂樓上在幹嘛推一個</span><span class="push-right">263F 10/08 18:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">judyx8x8x8</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新手來推文~~</span><span class="push-right">264F 10/13 13:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">beatingren</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!!! 學到了好多</span><span class="push-right">265F 10/14 19:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nvach</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 嗚嗚推</span><span class="push-right">266F 11/18 19:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dodo125</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 精闢</span><span class="push-right">267F 11/25 14:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shrimpmi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推</span><span class="push-right">268F 12/20 15:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a1230929</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">269F 12/28 16:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jadeu00379</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">270F 01/04 17:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vikingsddt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推~</span><span class="push-right">271F 01/08 22:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">P96370459</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推啊!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">272F 01/20 11:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mmmemorize</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">273F 02/26 11:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Sexycatwoman</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超棒的。借轉喔!^_^</span><span class="push-right">274F 05/12 01:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">taipelsky</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推~</span><span class="push-right">275F 05/13 20:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">grace0330</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">276F 05/16 00:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LAO2HUYATZI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://imgur.com/wflYDCX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/wflYDCX.jpg</a></span><span class="push-right">277F 05/18 21:00</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LAO2HUYATZI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有專業的版友可以幫我看一下我算的對不對,在下數學</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">LAO2HUYATZI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不好</span></div>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="600" style="width:800px;height:600px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://i4.disp.cc/imgur/wflYDCX.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wklxbiwee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 72*0.65/0.85=55 72-55=17 17*7700=130900</span><span class="push-right">280F 05/25 04:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wklxbiwee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我是建議你直接用計算機算 不然第一行乘法就錯了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sweet822626</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推~謝謝分享</span><span class="push-right">282F 06/04 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">abc565878</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">283F 06/09 23:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">glowingnose</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 天哪!怎麼沒早ㄧ點遇見這篇!推推!</span><span class="push-right">284F 07/11 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">COC55</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">285F 07/13 21:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">andreeee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 借轉!</span><span class="push-right">286F 07/19 22:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">plsletme38</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推~</span><span class="push-right">287F 07/21 12:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Rebus</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推腿,好文,看完很有益</span><span class="push-right">288F 07/22 20:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">babogoos</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那吃的低於基代,但是營養均衡,以低GI為主食,再加上</span><span class="push-right">289F 07/24 17:09</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">babogoos</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有氧,是否能瘦的快又健康呢?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MinnieYY</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">291F 08/10 00:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yhl908604</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很寶貴的資訊,獲益良多</span><span class="push-right">292F 08/24 01:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">da135ha</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真是超有用!</span><span class="push-right">293F 09/15 22:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: -------------------------------------------------</span><span class="push-right">294F 09/20 03:41</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 補充,a(果) b(飯奶蛋肉)一定要吃到,菜隨意吃</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 公式 去調整a:b 的比例就可以瘦下來 a+b=飽</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ---------------------------------------------------</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: b(飯奶蛋肉) b各項不得為0 a+b=一定要吃飽</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: b(飯奶蛋肉)各項不得小於1份</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: a(果)可以提高至3~4份</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可以吃到 a:b=1:2 基本上就會瘦了</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">waiter337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 除非吃到高GI值的a 那就哭哭</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">libby111111</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推!!每次遇到嘲笑我去重訓的人真得很想給他看這篇</span><span class="push-right">303F 09/24 15:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">selena802</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不懂第二式的意義欸....假設你脂肪以外的部分是70公斤</span><span class="push-right">304F 09/28 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rockmolly</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推啊 受教了</span><span class="push-right">305F 09/28 23:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AKSQK</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新手小妹受益良多!!</span><span class="push-right">306F 10/22 10:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">WuHelen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: u</span><span class="push-right">307F 10/24 13:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chubbbbbby</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">308F 10/26 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ophthalm</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好文~推推</span><span class="push-right">309F 11/17 20:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">auutztee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">310F 02/14 11:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">liugftw</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 讚</span><span class="push-right">311F 02/15 21:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">amelia99tw</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推好文!!!</span><span class="push-right">312F 03/17 20:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zxcv32188</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">313F 03/19 11:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Nomoresin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">314F 04/05 01:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">uvision0217</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國ㄎㄕ</span><span class="push-right">315F 04/15 19:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Oqi1vy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 葷琲澈H任障礙</span><span class="push-right">316F 04/20 14:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ricky771113</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推,男生的那個公式直接套用我身上剛好XD</span><span class="push-right">317F 04/25 10:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">betabc</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好專業阿大推</span><span class="push-right">318F 04/26 23:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">water1214</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 覺得好實用</span><span class="push-right">319F 05/23 20:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">layolayo1130</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推實用!</span><span class="push-right">320F 05/26 08:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kyu02031020</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 最後那個計算方式 真的簡單明瞭啊</span><span class="push-right">321F 05/27 15:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Serleser</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新手推一個~感恩</span><span class="push-right">322F 06/17 14:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tramezzino</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 對啊,我能體會你的困擾,要瘦哪裡如果自己可以決定就好</span><span class="push-right">323F 06/25 08:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">WarriorBogut</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推~長知識了</span><span class="push-right">324F 06/28 15:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sweet8522001</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 音樂</span><span class="push-right">325F 07/08 00:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">helwl</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 跑4小時太累了啦 還是喝普洱茶比較輕鬆</span><span class="push-right">326F 07/24 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ss0212</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難道沒有人也一樣有疑問 為什麼要除0.85嗎?</span><span class="push-right">327F 08/22 15:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">irene60525</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推,覺得受用~</span><span class="push-right">328F 08/23 00:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">TEDJAcKy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超級好文必須推</span><span class="push-right">329F 09/17 06:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AllRise10347</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 實用!</span><span class="push-right">330F 09/21 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">asdfgh0920</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 問題4中的"減肥時體重的變化?" 這篇不見了</span><span class="push-right">331F 09/22 12:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">asdfgh0920</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推錯篇</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dogan1030</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 「徵求」轉讓“space yoga"或"pure yoga"會籍</span><span class="push-right">333F 10/25 00:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bear31039</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 優文~推</span><span class="push-right">334F 11/09 16:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cattony</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分享在fb 謹惕自己了</span><span class="push-right">335F 11/13 01:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Godlovesyou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 謝謝分享</span><span class="push-right">336F 11/18 13:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">minionlo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 健身房的bodypump跟曲雕等肌力課程搭配有氧課程,跟自己</span><span class="push-right">337F 11/26 16:10</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">minionlo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有時使用重訓器材,這樣可以達到瘦身成效嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">landattack</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">339F 12/02 21:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">neoma</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 100公斤男跑步一小時只消耗300大卡?是用散步的吧?</span><span class="push-right">340F 12/13 19:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mimimi555</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 退</span><span class="push-right">341F 01/04 22:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ellin0409</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 謝謝,努力</span><span class="push-right">342F 01/12 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">modemedium</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推用心</span><span class="push-right">343F 01/16 15:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tw88</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">344F 02/06 14:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jessy1992</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超棒 必看</span><span class="push-right">345F 02/06 21:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">h41413214321</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 淚推</span><span class="push-right">346F 02/08 17:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">h07880201</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 體脂</span><span class="push-right">347F 02/16 14:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dawsom24</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">348F 03/02 19:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tupolevtu95</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推~</span><span class="push-right">349F 03/21 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bightm37913</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 脂推</span><span class="push-right">350F 03/23 10:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">samyaung</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: u質好文!</span><span class="push-right">351F 03/24 11:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lotteries77</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我運動了10個月才減5%體脂</span><span class="push-right">352F 04/11 22:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">f26724309</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">353F 04/14 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sodamushroom</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好文 推</span><span class="push-right">354F 04/14 23:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chih010019</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">355F 04/18 06:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">puccalin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 數學的算法好實用,謝謝!</span><span class="push-right">356F 04/20 13:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jenny1997</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">357F 04/23 23:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">iiiivy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好想知道一些英文代表什麼意思...目前查到ABS好像是指腹部</span><span class="push-right">358F 05/07 21:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">iiiivy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: POP?Ab?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ava2014</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">360F 05/09 01:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kenchang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">361F 05/12 18:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pannina</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推</span><span class="push-right">362F 05/22 16:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Hunter0514</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 基礎功力大增,推!</span><span class="push-right">363F 06/01 22:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BlankIce</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 讚</span><span class="push-right">364F 06/24 22:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tzuyusun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">365F 07/07 10:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">showtime1012</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">366F 08/30 04:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jesuisms</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推</span><span class="push-right">367F 10/11 22:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">easy02052001</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 回頭推</span><span class="push-right">368F 10/12 18:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">winterrain</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有很多觀念已經過時或被認為不正確 該更新囉</span><span class="push-right">369F 10/22 14:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yuhung</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 樓上不是三日生酮大師嗎?</span><span class="push-right">370F 10/26 21:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gaiaesque</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 想問一個問題 HIIT如果自己設定做一分鐘 休息15秒</span><span class="push-right">371F 11/05 10:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">gaiaesque</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那一組一分鐘動作都要全力做 還是一般速度完整做完好?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ni5410</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 澳</span><span class="push-right">373F 11/07 14:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bieber07</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推~</span><span class="push-right">374F 11/10 09:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dieyi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推~</span><span class="push-right">375F 11/19 01:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">flyingpika</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">376F 12/05 01:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">kilm665</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 用電腦的 算不出 數字 用手機就可以</span><span class="push-right">377F 12/05 20:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">supertyphoon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我是交大資工出來的所以知道體重只是一個數字不太對</span><span class="push-right">378F 12/08 11:47</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">supertyphoon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 想表達甚麼我懂但這來當進版公告不太適合該換掉囉。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ck52623</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 先推</span><span class="push-right">380F 12/14 14:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pillooow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 請問例一的70/85%是甚麼意思呢?看了好幾遍就這個不懂...</span><span class="push-right">381F 12/25 21:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bread10x</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 同樓上@@</span><span class="push-right">382F 02/04 19:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tim12384</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PUBG<a href="https://tinyurl.com/y9coya8oo.gl/ND6JN2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://tinyurl.com/y9coya8oo.gl/ND6JN2</a></span><span class="push-right">383F 02/25 04:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">uj4019</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 82.35的85%是70,表示減肥前後肌肉那些的量不變,只減脂肪</span><span class="push-right">384F 03/10 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MinJiLim</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">385F 04/07 00:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fay13727</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推</span><span class="push-right">386F 04/13 02:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iiYW</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 感謝</span><span class="push-right">387F 05/15 15:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Jiaking</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推</span><span class="push-right">388F 05/28 21:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aerolite</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 計算公式有點奇怪耶@@</span><span class="push-right">389F 05/31 00:57</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aerolite</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 應該是用一開始的體脂重量減去後來體脂重量才是要減少</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">aerolite</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 的脂肪重量吧?</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">aerolite</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 啊啊啊對不起我自己數學不好算錯了><</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">elfeana</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">393F 07/28 19:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fueinako</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看了這篇才知道自己一直對於減脂這件事看的太簡單了……</span><span class="push-right">394F 07/30 08:56</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">fueinako</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難怪老是在失敗QAQ非常感謝導正觀念的好知識!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mature000999</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 感謝分享</span><span class="push-right">396F 08/13 12:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">orangemint</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 獲益良多,感謝指教</span><span class="push-right">397F 09/03 20:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">haha26ya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">398F 11/16 13:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dc111999</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這是一般的理論基礎,但要練到一個穩定不受傷,不因溫</span><span class="push-right">399F 11/25 22:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">PetiteCeline</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 淺顯易懂 謝謝分享!</span><span class="push-right">400F 12/01 23:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kelidel</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">401F 12/09 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wanlingchung</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超專業推一個</span><span class="push-right">402F 03/15 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ulrikeva</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!感謝分享</span><span class="push-right">403F 04/27 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kbook</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">404F 05/20 23:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">GYLKKBOY</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: {真給推 但數學算得有點怪 不過不重要 重點是不容易XD</span><span class="push-right">405F 06/28 15:48</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">GYLKKBOY</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 認真給推</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MongMo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好文推</span><span class="push-right">407F 07/11 09:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ting19860427</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!!!</span><span class="push-right">408F 07/27 11:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mini040800</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">409F 07/30 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">miya0327</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">410F 09/10 23:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dracohp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">411F 09/15 21:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LP30KG</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">412F 09/27 16:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nnne</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 讚</span><span class="push-right">413F 10/19 08:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vivimoca</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ㄇ</span><span class="push-right">414F 10/21 14:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mioluce</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">415F 10/22 16:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">baobaocute</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 想問瘦身霜沒用,那運動搭配中醫調身體有用嗎??</span><span class="push-right">416F 11/24 19:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sean79</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: [轉讓] Dapro Fitness 單堂團課卷*15張,一張500</span><span class="push-right">417F 12/28 17:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">plm456</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫推一個 0卡較不建議喝 攝取蛋白可以吃水煮雞胸肉也不錯</span><span class="push-right">418F 01/31 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cs5tyusa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">419F 02/06 08:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">neddyuang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 計算那裡忽略了基代以及攝入 不過計算看看就好</span><span class="push-right">420F 03/30 07:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">neddyuang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 目前都還有很多流派爭論正確算法</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Lorry119</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 養成每天運動30分以上的習慣</span><span class="push-right">422F 05/16 08:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bubucargo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">423F 05/20 00:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hermit13</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推,忽然發現要至少一年才能達標QQ 加油!</span><span class="push-right">424F 06/15 03:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">littlegreen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 觀念再複習</span><span class="push-right">425F 06/23 15:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jackel9960</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我整天都在幻想阿>___<</span><span class="push-right">426F 06/27 19:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Cathy0526</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新手感恩推</span><span class="push-right">427F 07/04 21:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">beiluoshimen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 很實用 必要知識</span><span class="push-right">428F 09/26 03:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gracek7614</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 需有正確的心態健身才有效</span><span class="push-right">429F 10/20 15:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">i7607</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推啊</span><span class="push-right">430F 06/17 16:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">monkeyeden</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫你總結一句,要有怎樣的身材就要有怎樣的生活</span><span class="push-right">431F 10/03 03:30</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">monkeyeden</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你他媽想跟健美選手一樣身材就去過他們的生活啦!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">suyingwun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推</span><span class="push-right">433F 01/08 13:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">souin44</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推</span><span class="push-right">434F 02/11 08:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">xgMd1trtw</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 神文 謝謝!!</span><span class="push-right">435F 02/20 12:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">seclovpla</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">436F 03/02 12:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">RS9527</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 感謝很實用的一篇 推一下</span><span class="push-right">437F 07/27 08:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LordSo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 發問以前真的都該先看過這一篇</span><span class="push-right">438F 08/06 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gotvoir548</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推!</span><span class="push-right">439F 09/12 17:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">char0318</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我之前體脂18卡關 一週兩天做有氧拳擊後 一個月到14</span><span class="push-right">440F 09/13 21:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">danisaku</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 清楚易懂</span><span class="push-right">441F 09/28 15:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BristleSne</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 減肥是一時,但健身是一輩子的事</span><span class="push-right">442F 10/12 14:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jade1986</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 體重只是一個數字,BMI也只能當作參考</span><span class="push-right">443F 10/13 14:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ejigcl</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真正重要的是體脂率</span><span class="push-right">444F 10/13 14:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kiki0792</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 阿諾史瓦辛格的體重跟BMI肯定都高</span><span class="push-right">445F 10/13 14:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cuteir0201</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Michael Jordan的體重也絕對比一般人高的多</span><span class="push-right">446F 10/13 14:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Acareir203</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只要脂肪去除,體態自然會輕盈好看</span><span class="push-right">447F 10/13 14:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ellehu4821</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 充滿脂肪的人,健康絕對好不到哪裡去</span><span class="push-right">448F 10/13 14:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">annie09764</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很多人減肥失敗或是復胖都是因為心態沒有調整好</span><span class="push-right">449F 10/13 14:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shine303</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 投機取巧的方式讓自己快速減肥</span><span class="push-right">450F 10/13 14:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">foredoom</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真棒 !!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">451F 10/19 13:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shine303</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一公斤的脂肪,要消耗7700卡的熱量才能從身上消失</span><span class="push-right">452F 10/21 14:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">withcat</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推</span><span class="push-right">453F 10/23 05:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Deadpoop1111</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好文推推</span><span class="push-right">454F 11/17 11:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">littlebun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 身體製造的膽固醇遠高於飲食 美國飲食攝取指南早就取消</span><span class="push-right">455F 02/02 12:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">littlebun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 攝取膽固醇上限 你吃得少 身體就製造多 你吃得多身體就</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">littlebun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 製造少 維持必要恆定</span></div>
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讚 howar31:<a href="http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FITNESS/M.1146374261.A.4A6.html" target="_blank">http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FITNESS/M.1146374261.A.4A6.html</a></div></pre>
chungg.
[置底] 新手常見問題
http://disp.cc/b/191-7inM
2006-08-17T16:57:57+08:00
2014-02-11T17:03:58+08:00
新手FAQ:
1. Q:我是男生,我想健身,可是不想練太大,怎麼辦?
A: 對不起,你走錯了地方了喔,請下樓往fitness版走。喔,不是,我是說要是這麼
容易練大,那街上應該猛男滿地走了,可是就算健身房裡都不見得能看到幾個猛男,你想
太多了。
2. Q:我是女生,練重訓會不會變成肌肉女?
A:因為女性賀爾蒙的關係,女生要練大比男生還難上百倍,請放心,你如果太大隻絕
對是因為肥,不是壯。
3. Q: 我想瘦肚子/大腿/蝴蝶袖,可是我每天作仰臥起坐/空中腳踏車/手臂運動,怎麼都
沒有效?
A:要減脂請做有氧運動,一個禮拜至少三次,每次至少三十分鐘,心跳要達到130以
上。任何局部運動都只會讓你那部分的肌肉變大,不會消除該部分脂肪。如果想靠仰臥起
坐減脂也不是不行啦,先一口氣作個三十分鐘再說吧!
4. Q:我已經做有氧做好久了,怎麼只瘦胸部,肚子都瘦不下來?
A:請愛用東榮牌減肥刀或重新投胎,啊,不是,我是說有氧運動對減脂的效果是全身
性的,那個部位的脂肪會先消跟基因有關,每個人都不一樣。怪就怪你的基因,或是怪自
己當初吃太多吧。
5. Q:我是新手,要怎麼排課表? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> MuscleBeach </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> chungg (杜若)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [置底] 新手常見問題 <br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Aug 17 16:57:57 2006</div><hr color="#008080" />
新手FAQ:
1. Q:我是男生,我想健身,可是不想練太大,怎麼辦?
<div class="combine-lines"> A: 對不起,你走錯了地方了喔,請下樓往fitness版走。喔,不是,我是說要是這麼
容易練大,那街上應該猛男滿地走了,可是就算健身房裡都不見得能看到幾個猛男,你想
太多了。</div>
2. Q:我是女生,練重訓會不會變成肌肉女?
A:因為女性賀爾蒙的關係,女生要練大比男生還難上百倍,請放心,你如果太大隻絕
對是因為肥,不是壯。
3. Q: 我想瘦肚子/大腿/蝴蝶袖,可是我每天作仰臥起坐/空中腳踏車/手臂運動,怎麼都
沒有效?
<div class="combine-lines"> A:要減脂請做有氧運動,一個禮拜至少三次,每次至少三十分鐘,心跳要達到130以
上。任何局部運動都只會讓你那部分的肌肉變大,不會消除該部分脂肪。如果想靠仰臥起
坐減脂也不是不行啦,先一口氣作個三十分鐘再說吧!</div>
4. Q:我已經做有氧做好久了,怎麼只瘦胸部,肚子都瘦不下來?
<div class="combine-lines"> A:請愛用東榮牌減肥刀或重新投胎,啊,不是,我是說有氧運動對減脂的效果是全身
性的,那個部位的脂肪會先消跟基因有關,每個人都不一樣。怪就怪你的基因,或是怪自
己當初吃太多吧。</div>
5. Q:我是新手,要怎麼排課表?
<div class="combine-lines"> A: 新手請注意課表的均衡性與全面性,全身都要練,不要單練某一個部位,否則不
但看起來不協調而且容易受傷。至少胸部、背部、肩膀、腹部、二頭、三頭、大腿、小腿
等主要肌群都應該排進去,每個部位練完後至少休息48小時,但不超過一週。另外也應該
適當排入有氧運動。以下是兩份菜單(僅供參考,更多課表可參考精華區):</div>
(1)減脂健康版:
星期一:胸、三頭、肩膀
星期二:有氧
星期三:大腿、小腿、腹部
星期四:有氧
星期五:背、二頭
星期六:有氧
星期天:休息
(2)狂操猛練版:
星期一:胸、三頭、肩膀
星期二:大腿、小腿、腹部
星期三:背、二頭
星期四:有氧
星期五:胸、三頭、肩膀
星期六:大腿、小腿、腹部
星期天:背、二頭
6. Q:我聽說強者我同學說健身要先吃胖一點再練?
<div class="combine-lines"> A:聽你同學在放X,你是要肌肉還是要肥肉?隨便去翻一本生理學課本吧,肌肉細胞
是肌肉細胞,脂肪細胞就是脂肪細胞,兩個絕對不會互相轉變,吃胖吃出來的只是肥油,
練出來的才是肌肉,這兩者是不會互相轉換的。</div>
7. Q:我現在練的肌肉以後不練了會不會變肥肉?
<div class="combine-lines"> A:同上,肌肉會萎縮,但不會變肥肉。肥肉都是你吃出來的,跟肌肉無關。另外,學
如逆水行舟,不進則退。健身也是一樣,想要用短期努力練出來的就想維持一輩子?你以
為是學腳踏車喔?</div>
8. Q: 我練了好久,怎麼肌肉都沒變大?吃乳清蛋白/肌酸有效嗎?
<div class="combine-lines"> A: 健身最重要的三大要素:刺激、休息、營養。對於一般人來說,應該是刺激>休息
>營養。健身成效不彰的人,請先問自己有沒有給肌肉足夠的刺激,有沒有每次練完都有
快要死掉痛不欲生的感覺?再問有沒有讓肌肉得到充足的休息時間,有沒有作息不正常亂
熬夜?最後才是問營養是否足夠。大部分人只要前兩項做到,都可以在不吃營養品的前提
下得到明顯的進步。只有進階者才需要吃補充品。至於什麼時候才算進階?等你能握推做
到自己體重再來說吧!</div>
9. Q: 我每天都去健身房好幾個小時,怎麼一點效果都沒有?
<div class="combine-lines"> A: 再次強調,健身的重點是刺激跟休息,不是時間的長短。如果你每次都只是拿同
樣的重量做同樣的動作,那肌肉根本不會得到足夠的刺激,如果你有氧每次都只是流了很
多汗卻沒有喘到的感覺,那新陳代謝率根本也不會提高多少。重點不在於時間,而在於效
率,有效的運動只要每天一個小時就足夠,過多的訓練只是浪費時間,請記住每次都要向
自己的極限挑戰。</div>
10. Q: 有氧跟重訓那個先做比較好?
A: 有氧跟重訓最好分天做,否則會互相干擾而達不到最好效果。如果一定要一起
做,請先做重訓,並適當補充一點蛋白質跟休息之後,再做有氧。
11. Q: 有沒有辦法可以把胸肌練方一點?我的腹肌好像不對稱,有沒有辦法矯正?
<div class="combine-lines"> A:請注意自己動作是否正確,兩邊施力是否平均,如果還是一樣,那就沒有辦法了
。肌肉的形狀決定於基因,你可以讓它變大,也可以加強局部部位來美化,但基本形狀
是不會變的,不喜歡就重新投胎吧!</div>
12. Q: 重訓的飲食有哪些要注意的?
A: 不要去管什麼運動前吃還是運動後吃飯比較好,也不用去吃什麼乳清蛋白,只要
記住以下幾點:
(1)少量多餐,每天至少吃六餐,每次份量都減半。
(2)吃健康而均衡的食物,多吃蛋白質,少吃油炸跟垃圾食物。
(3)多補充維他命跟礦物質。
(4)多喝水多喝水多喝水!
13. Q: 我想減脂吃燃脂劑可以嗎?
A: 你想早點死的話就吃吧!
14: Q: 我已經很大隻了,不想再練壯,有沒有只要練出線條就好的方法?
A: 沒圖沒真相,給大家看一下照片吧!我想大家一定會很誠懇的告訴你那其實是
肥肉的XD。如果你真的這麼厲害,隨便練練就很大隻,那台灣真的很需要你這種人才,千
萬不要浪費自己的天賦,有沒有考慮出國比賽?
再次強調,肌肉沒那麼好練,大隻多半是脂肪蓋在上面把肌肉蓋住了,想要線條請做有氧
減脂,樓下的fitness有很多資訊喔。
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DavidVillaS.
Re: [徵求] PTT-Ace PACL 形象大使 & 看板女孩
http://disp.cc/b/191-4UD2
2013-01-06T22:08:03+08:00
2013-01-06T22:33:50+08:00
Hi,
你好我是從LOL版看到活動訊息的板友,
想冒昧提出一點對於活動的建議:
看板女孩這個職務主要是為了提升宣傳效果,
但這其中恐怕有一些意識形態上的問題,
在兩年前台大曾經主辦一個台大水果節選拔台大水果妹的活動,
就因為此意識形態問題喊停,
我想提供一些討論以資參考:
甯應斌 中央大學哲學研究所教授
水果妹選美問題不在物化,在平等、在知識與想像台大水果節的水果妹選美據說是因為
物化女性而被停止活動。有人說:水果妹並無裸露,何來物化。但是物化和裸露無關。只
要在公共展示身體,成為慾望焦點,就算穿了很多衣服仍可能是物化。還有,在市場上販
賣身體或出賣勞力也是物化。
有一位台大社會系的朋友對此提出舉例,
徵發傳單工讀生 限女
總務處徵水電人員 限男
像是這樣的徵人訊息不曉得大家是否覺得妥當?
是的,根據性別工作平等法第七條:
雇主對求職者或受僱者之招募、甄試、進用、分發、配置、考績或陞遷等,不得因
性別或性傾向而有差別待遇。但工作性質僅適合特定性別者,不在此限。
很明顯,不論是傳單工讀生或水電人員
工作性質與性別並沒有任何關係
這樣的徵人訊息是違法的
且違背了平等的原則
主要是牽涉到 ...]]>
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Hi,
你好我是從LOL版看到活動訊息的板友,
想冒昧提出一點對於活動的建議:
看板女孩這個職務主要是為了提升宣傳效果,
但這其中恐怕有一些意識形態上的問題,
在兩年前台大曾經主辦一個台大水果節選拔台大水果妹的活動,
就因為此意識形態問題喊停,
我想提供一些討論以資參考:
甯應斌 中央大學哲學研究所教授
<div class="combine-lines"> 水果妹選美問題不在物化,在平等、在知識與想像台大水果節的水果妹選美據說是因為
物化女性而被停止活動。有人說:水果妹並無裸露,何來物化。但是物化和裸露無關。只
要在公共展示身體,成為慾望焦點,就算穿了很多衣服仍可能是物化。還有,在市場上販
賣身體或出賣勞力也是物化。</div>
有一位台大社會系的朋友對此提出舉例,
<span style="color:#F00000">徵發傳單工讀生 限女</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">總務處徵水電人員 限男</span>
像是這樣的徵人訊息不曉得大家是否覺得妥當?
是的,根據<span style="color:#008080">性別工作平等法第七條:</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">雇主對求職者或受僱者之招募、甄試、進用、分發、配置、考績或陞遷等,不得因</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">性別或性傾向而有差別待遇。但工作性質僅適合特定性別者,不在此限。</span>
很明顯,不論是傳單工讀生或水電人員
工作性質與性別並沒有任何關係
這樣的徵人訊息是違法的
且違背了平等的原則
主要是牽涉到機會平等的問題,
無論換成:
徵看板代言人 限elo 2000分以上
徵看板代言人 限台北人
徵看板代言人 限非原住民
一樣都有問題。
想請貴主辦單位參考,
或許看板大使(不限男不限女),
能更達到對於像我一樣的異性戀女版友的宣傳效果。
謝謝,預祝活動順利。
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dancillll.
Re: [閒聊] 今天去接機的一些照片
http://disp.cc/b/191-4AP9
2012-10-17T02:40:12+08:00
2012-10-17T09:16:06+08:00
也跟大家分享一下接機的照片~
第一次發文,還請各位多指教嚕~ ^^
http://ppt.cc/rTSa
ps:連結是我的臉書相本唷..還有一點點閃光照 ><"
這是TPA受訪的影片
http://ppt.cc/HAlS
TPA接機~ 現場接受訪問!!! | Facebook
這是TPA離場影片
http://ppt.cc/5Uku
現場接機~ TPA離場!!! | Facebook
超感動~ 喉嚨都啞了!!!
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> LoL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dancillll (阿月)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [閒聊] 今天去接機的一些照片<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Oct 17 02:40:12 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
也跟大家分享一下接機的照片~
第一次發文,還請各位多指教嚕~ ^^
<a href="http://ppt.cc/rTSa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/rTSa</a>
ps:連結是我的臉書相本唷..還有一點點閃光照 ><"
這是TPA受訪的影片
<a href="http://ppt.cc/HAlS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/HAlS</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230923730369950" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>TPA接機~ 現場接受訪問!!! | Facebook</strong></a>
</div></div> </div>
這是TPA離場影片
<a href="http://ppt.cc/5Uku" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/5Uku</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=230925573703099" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>現場接機~ TPA離場!!! | Facebook</strong></a>
</div></div> </div>
超感動~ 喉嚨都啞了!!!
\TPA/\TPA/\TPA/\TPA/\TPA/\TPA/
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diciya.
[影片] TPA光榮返國 桃園機場最直擊
http://disp.cc/b/191-4APa
2012-10-17T02:23:34+08:00
2012-10-17T09:16:03+08:00
電玩宅速配20121016 午夜最速報 TPA光榮返國 桃園機場最直擊(如有OP請告知)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgqdJ79XY0M&feature=youtu.be
電玩宅速配20121016_午夜最速報 TPA光榮返國 桃園機場最直擊 - YouTube 世界冠軍,台灣之光回來啦 大家趕快幫TPA集氣 好東西就是要報給大家知 還有【電玩宅速配】有更精采的內容 密切注意 千萬別錯過喔!! 粉絲團: 休閒平台: 最hot攻略:
獎金的規劃:史丹利想買重機,BEBE想買冰箱XD
好想知道其他人咧!! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> LoL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> diciya (藍小狐)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [影片] TPA光榮返國 桃園機場最直擊<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Oct 17 02:23:34 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
電玩宅速配20121016 午夜最速報 TPA光榮返國 桃園機場最直擊(如有OP請告知)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgqdJ79XY0M&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgqdJ79XY0M&feature=youtu.be</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgqdJ79XY0M&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>電玩宅速配20121016_午夜最速報 TPA光榮返國 桃園機場最直擊 - YouTube</strong></a> 世界冠軍,台灣之光回來啦 大家趕快幫TPA集氣 好東西就是要報給大家知 還有【電玩宅速配】有更精采的內容 密切注意 千萬別錯過喔!! 粉絲團: 休閒平台: 最hot攻略:</div></div>
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獎金的規劃:史丹利想買重機,BEBE想買冰箱XD
好想知道其他人咧!!
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jerry9988/push?y=12" target="_blank">jerry9988</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣轉播被切掉 stanley說完話就沒了Q_Q</span><span class="push-right">12F 10/17 02:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zsp7009/push?y=12" target="_blank">zsp7009</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:3F對不起,我改一下措辭 - 冷藏庫又是哪一個技能*</span><span class="push-right">13F 10/17 02:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jerome20106/push?y=12" target="_blank">jerome20106</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:BEBE:冰箱太小 不能擺太多吃的東西QQ 我要買大冰箱</span><span class="push-right">14F 10/17 02:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jerry9988/push?y=12" target="_blank">jerry9988</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好想知道你當時的心情</span><span class="push-right">15F 10/17 02:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HornyDragon/push?y=12" target="_blank">HornyDragon</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Bebe給虧嗎</span><span class="push-right">16F 10/17 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/duncan2002/push?y=12" target="_blank">duncan2002</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:bebe既然回來了不如就把當時要講的話發成文吧XD</span><span class="push-right">17F 10/17 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fm960805/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fm960805</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:除了Toyz其他都要當大男了嗎</span><span class="push-right">18F 10/17 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sr260302/push?y=12" target="_blank">sr260302</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:隊長講話真的很得體ˊˇˋ</span><span class="push-right">19F 10/17 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/no4/push?y=12" target="_blank">no4</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:bebe宵夜不要吃太多唷</span><span class="push-right">20F 10/17 02:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peter0726/push?y=12" target="_blank">peter0726</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難怪TPA都打不死</span><span class="push-right">21F 10/17 02:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gigaga5566/push?y=12" target="_blank">gigaga5566</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">22F 10/17 02:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e71099/push?y=12" target="_blank">e71099</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:BeBe到底是要買冰箱還是電視阿xD</span><span class="push-right">23F 10/17 02:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guexx3/push?y=12" target="_blank">guexx3</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:球球怎沒入鏡!!!!</span><span class="push-right">24F 10/17 02:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/behigher/push?y=12" target="_blank">behigher</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想知道bebe到底在訪問時說什麼+1</span><span class="push-right">25F 10/17 02:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/daenvgil/push?y=12" target="_blank">daenvgil</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有送卡片給BEBE>///<</span><span class="push-right">26F 10/17 02:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GhoulDoG/push?y=12" target="_blank">GhoulDoG</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:獎金一個人分多少啊@@?</span><span class="push-right">27F 10/17 02:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/z2v2r2mk2/push?y=12" target="_blank">z2v2r2mk2</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:MISTAKE講話穩重得體有禮貌,成功建立電競選手好形象</span><span class="push-right">28F 10/17 02:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Penny0527/push?y=12" target="_blank">Penny0527</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:記者是不是把史丹利跟BEBE搞反了</span><span class="push-right">29F 10/17 02:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ironcattle/push?y=12" target="_blank">ironcattle</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:冰箱≠電視 似乎不是唯一解 ...冰箱in電視inBebe家</span><span class="push-right">30F 10/17 02:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/henrysmall/push?y=12" target="_blank">henrysmall</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我願意包養ERICA!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">31F 10/17 02:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yhchen2/push?y=12" target="_blank">yhchen2</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雖然好像不太該問但是還真的滿好奇一個人拿多少耶...</span><span class="push-right">32F 10/17 02:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shohokuno10/push?y=12" target="_blank">shohokuno10</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:冰箱可以買好幾百台吧</span><span class="push-right">33F 10/17 02:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/applemonster/push?y=12" target="_blank">applemonster</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:gox1117: 換新車</span><span class="push-right">34F 10/17 02:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mize0307/push?y=12" target="_blank">mize0307</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝你,9527</span><span class="push-right">35F 10/17 02:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satan317/push?y=12" target="_blank">satan317</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:9527一回來就上B XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">36F 10/17 02:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GIBBLUE2/push?y=12" target="_blank">GIBBLUE2</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Bebe難道是想從EZ=>葛雷夫=>烏爾加特嗎 (誤</span><span class="push-right">37F 10/17 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DFIGHT/push?y=12" target="_blank">DFIGHT</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:bebe不是說要電視><</span><span class="push-right">38F 10/17 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shiinalingo/push?y=12" target="_blank">shiinalingo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對欸還有挨批L5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">39F 10/17 02:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jesse090828/push?y=12" target="_blank">jesse090828</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:BEBE <33333333333</span><span class="push-right">40F 10/17 02:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iqnine/push?y=12" target="_blank">iqnine</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推><</span><span class="push-right">41F 10/17 02:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gn01172011/push?y=12" target="_blank">gn01172011</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:9527在飛機上看來是睡飽了 現在大概睡不著 還有時差</span><span class="push-right">42F 10/17 02:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gj942l41l4/push?y=12" target="_blank">gj942l41l4</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:MISTAKE真的很會講話耶@@</span><span class="push-right">43F 10/17 02:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeff82/push?y=12" target="_blank">jeff82</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:9527!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">44F 10/17 02:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/martin3621/push?y=12" target="_blank">martin3621</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:球球想買阿市</span><span class="push-right">45F 10/17 02:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/trombonely/push?y=12" target="_blank">trombonely</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝你,9527</span><span class="push-right">46F 10/17 03:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wlvfgqaz/push?y=12" target="_blank">wlvfgqaz</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺MISTAKE講話好用力</span><span class="push-right">47F 10/17 03:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/VRadmanovic/push?y=12" target="_blank">VRadmanovic</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:買了冰箱結果吃的東西被史丹利掃光。</span><span class="push-right">48F 10/17 03:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sxz/push?y=12" target="_blank">sxz</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:bebe本人說話會不會結巴 有點懷疑是不是說話太容易停</span><span class="push-right">49F 10/17 03:19</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sxz/push?y=12" target="_blank">sxz</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:頓太久 所以傻笑帯過</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Raymond0710/push?y=12" target="_blank">Raymond0710</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝你9527!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">51F 10/17 04:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jazye/push?y=12" target="_blank">jazye</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:冰箱XD</span><span class="push-right">52F 10/17 07:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Istari/push?y=12" target="_blank">Istari</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為什麼要買冰箱 不太懂</span><span class="push-right">53F 10/17 07:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/higameboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">higameboy</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為可以放很多吃的進去</span><span class="push-right">54F 10/17 07:46</span></div>
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jeff82.
[閒聊] 今天去接機的一些照片
http://disp.cc/b/191-4ANH
2012-10-17T01:28:42+08:00
2012-10-17T09:15:21+08:00
今天去接機拍得一些照片
雖然我的Hㄒㄈ很爛
但還是跟大家分享一下
我跟另一位鄉民約八點半出發,沒想到九點出頭就到了
加上現場主持人說誤點了..只好開始找一些東西來拍
http://ppt.cc/sms-
TPA旗子!!!報名的才有O_Q
我也好想要
http://ppt.cc/xwzI
疑似工作人員二人組,那牌子會發光超帥
http://ppt.cc/TuxY
他們布條一拉起來全場歡聲雷動,害我以為TPA來了
http://ppt.cc/f0wH
布條2
http://ppt.cc/6TfT
布條上面的TPA
http://ppt.cc/fKZl
T毛
http://ppt.cc/unXr
剛拿出來的時候,一堆手根本拍不到
http://ppt.cc/6okM
http://ppt.cc/UA_C
這兩位說歡迎大家找他們打
http://ppt.cc/8NC9
用心姊
http://ppt.cc/kH5J
用心哥
http://ppt.cc/e_Tu
用心七人組
http://ppt.cc/wHUY
好像是美容美髮冠軍還啥的,一出來大 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> LoL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> jeff82 (\( ̄□ ̄)/ 爪爪迷)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [閒聊] 今天去接機的一些照片<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Oct 17 01:28:42 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
今天去接機拍得一些照片
雖然我的Hㄒㄈ很爛
但還是跟大家分享一下
我跟另一位鄉民約八點半出發,沒想到九點出頭就到了
加上現場主持人說誤點了..只好開始找一些東西來拍
<a href="http://ppt.cc/sms-" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/sms-</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/sms-" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/sms-@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
TPA旗子!!!報名的才有O_Q
我也好想要
<a href="http://ppt.cc/xwzI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/xwzI</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/xwzI" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/xwzI@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
疑似工作人員二人組,那牌子會發光超帥
<a href="http://ppt.cc/TuxY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/TuxY</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/TuxY" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/TuxY@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
他們布條一拉起來全場歡聲雷動,害我以為TPA來了
<a href="http://ppt.cc/f0wH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/f0wH</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/f0wH" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/f0wH@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
布條2
<a href="http://ppt.cc/6TfT" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/6TfT</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/6TfT" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/6TfT@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
布條上面的TPA
<a href="http://ppt.cc/fKZl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/fKZl</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/fKZl" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="206" data-ori_h="344" style="width:206px;height:344px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/fKZl@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
T毛
<a href="http://ppt.cc/unXr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/unXr</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/unXr" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/unXr@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
剛拿出來的時候,一堆手根本拍不到
<a href="http://ppt.cc/6okM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/6okM</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/6okM" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/6okM@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/UA_C" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/UA_C</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/UA_C" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/UA_C@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
這兩位說歡迎大家找他們打
<a href="http://ppt.cc/8NC9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/8NC9</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/8NC9" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="574" data-ori_h="960" style="width:574px;height:960px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/8NC9@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
用心姊
<a href="http://ppt.cc/kH5J" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/kH5J</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/kH5J" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="574" data-ori_h="960" style="width:574px;height:960px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/kH5J@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
用心哥
<a href="http://ppt.cc/e_Tu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/e_Tu</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/e_Tu" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/e_Tu@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
用心七人組
<a href="http://ppt.cc/wHUY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/wHUY</a>
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好像是美容美髮冠軍還啥的,一出來大家還以為TPA走錯邊了
<a href="http://ppt.cc/oYs9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/oYs9</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/oYs9" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="478" style="width:800px;height:478px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/oYs9@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
正妹秒被採訪
<a href="http://ppt.cc/GsHT" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/GsHT</a>
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鍵盤小妹我也只好厚著臉皮去找他拍一下
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T毛姊,現場T毛帽好像只有五頂,超少的
<a href="http://ppt.cc/e42F" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/e42F</a>
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報紙哥,我今天最佩服的一個人
他說他早上第二節下課跟他朋友兩個從雲林騎九個小時到這
結束又要騎回去上明天一二節
我的聽了都內牛滿面了
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人超多...摸完BEBE的手以後就來不及擠到前面了
<a href="http://ppt.cc/FO_2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/FO_2</a>
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站在外圍的時候看到野生Erica!!!!!!!!!!!!
<a href="http://ppt.cc/dfhV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/dfhV</a>
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鍵盤小妹馬上不要臉的跑過去找他拍照
可是他說他沒化妝只能po背面...
今天大家真的都超high
還有啦啦隊在那邊疊羅漢(?)
可惜我沒拍到
唯一的遺憾就是沒拿到tpa旗子
難過
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<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:29)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shaiker/push?y=12" target="_blank">shaiker</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鍵盤小妹的圖呢?</span><span class="push-right">1F 10/17 01:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fm960805/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fm960805</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:背面op 求偷拍正面</span><span class="push-right">2F 10/17 01:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/egain/push?y=12" target="_blank">egain</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:被採訪的那個小妹好正!!</span><span class="push-right">3F 10/17 01:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkMooon/push?y=12" target="_blank">DarkMooon</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跪求正妹相關資料</span><span class="push-right">4F 10/17 01:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cipolin/push?y=12" target="_blank">Cipolin</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:被採訪的正妹真的很正 還自製燈牌!!! 有心!!</span><span class="push-right">5F 10/17 01:36</span></div>
被採訪的那個根據小妹我觀察好像自己來的
不過同樣身為小妹我只拍他而已沒有跟他要資料
正面不行啦,他說他沒化妝,好不容易才凹到合照的
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:37)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kinny741224/push?y=12" target="_blank">kinny741224</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Erica人好又正QQ 唯一得到的簽名 <a href="http://ppt.cc/Tu~D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/Tu~D</a></span><span class="push-right">6F 10/17 01:36</span></div>
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我那時候在旁邊看超羨慕的,為啥我甚麼都沒帶就去了
沒東西可以簽Q_Q
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/frank1033/push?y=12" target="_blank">frank1033</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說好的正面圖呢(敲碗)</span><span class="push-right">7F 10/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WIZARDHUNTER/push?y=12" target="_blank">WIZARDHUNTER</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現場的女生有夠多~"~</span><span class="push-right">8F 10/17 01:37</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:38)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WIZARDHUNTER/push?y=12" target="_blank">WIZARDHUNTER</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:erica只有正而已 她一開始還跟粉絲抱抱 人超好</span><span class="push-right">9F 10/17 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yachien04/push?y=12" target="_blank">yachien04</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你到底是不是真的小妹阿 搞得我好亂</span><span class="push-right">10F 10/17 01:38</span></div>
我是鍵盤小妹^_^
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:39)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/biycer/push?y=12" target="_blank">biycer</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就鍵盤小妹阿 夾起來那種</span><span class="push-right">11F 10/17 01:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jesse090828/push?y=12" target="_blank">jesse090828</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上很糟糕XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">12F 10/17 01:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/letmesaveyou/push?y=12" target="_blank">letmesaveyou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鍵盤小妹....這........ 給箭頭</span><span class="push-right">13F 10/17 01:41</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linsmile/push?y=12" target="_blank">linsmile</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:erica >/////<</span><span class="push-right">14F 10/17 01:41</span></div>
Erica不化妝也超正的~~~小妹我站在他旁邊都in了
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:42)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cipolin/push?y=12" target="_blank">Cipolin</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:erica主動說要抱抱真的很驚喜>///<</span><span class="push-right">15F 10/17 01:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/popo731020/push?y=12" target="_blank">popo731020</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:怒推鍵盤小妹 夾起來小妹 彈出來小妹 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">16F 10/17 01:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cipolin/push?y=12" target="_blank">Cipolin</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可惜最後她要跟TPA一起搭車就趕著走了 沒合照到</span><span class="push-right">17F 10/17 01:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/w8a82k75566/push?y=12" target="_blank">w8a82k75566</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:野生的Erica啊!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">18F 10/17 01:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/k11922299/push?y=12" target="_blank">k11922299</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:erica正面呢 (敲碗) 沒去好可惜喔我ㄒ口ㄒ</span><span class="push-right">19F 10/17 01:43</span></div>
科科,我跟她合照的時候大家還在那邊看tpa
好像只有三四個人有跟他合照到
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:44)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wl00505477/push?y=12" target="_blank">wl00505477</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你這臭酸宅</span><span class="push-right">20F 10/17 01:44</span></div>
潮爽的~~我有摸到bebe的手耶~~~
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:45)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/deankiller/push?y=12" target="_blank">deankiller</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好想跟erica抱抱</span><span class="push-right">21F 10/17 01:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rain520/push?y=12" target="_blank">rain520</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:彈出來了...</span><span class="push-right">22F 10/17 01:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loloveit/push?y=12" target="_blank">loloveit</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雲林那個太猛拉 希望他們路上平安</span><span class="push-right">23F 10/17 01:47</span></div>
他們倆個真的超強,還迷路
九個小時能到台北真的很威
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wl00505477/push?y=12" target="_blank">wl00505477</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那你有摸到玩具的x嗎</span><span class="push-right">24F 10/17 01:47</span></div>
我只有摸到手>///////<
上路帝王的手真的是又大又溫暖
可樂林的手超嫩的~
其他五位摸起來差不多
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:49)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fm960805/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fm960805</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:開始忌妒了給噓</span><span class="push-right">25F 10/17 01:49</span></div>
我有開團耶,可是沒人要跟只有一個O_Q
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jeff82 來自: 1.163.6.231 (10/17 01:50)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e71099/push?y=12" target="_blank">e71099</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還我erika</span><span class="push-right">26F 10/17 01:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vvvccc1d/push?y=12" target="_blank">vvvccc1d</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:拍正面也可以用手或頭髮遮臉啊 是在朱自清喔</span><span class="push-right">27F 10/17 01:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fm960805/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fm960805</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:補推</span><span class="push-right">28F 10/17 01:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YCC/push?y=12" target="_blank">YCC</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈 感謝分享 好有趣喔</span><span class="push-right">29F 10/17 01:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/despair78214/push?y=12" target="_blank">despair78214</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:長毛和貝克去哪了?</span><span class="push-right">30F 10/17 01:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Jarvan/push?y=12" target="_blank">Jarvan</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現場沒看到耶,只有TPA7人眾+erica跟巴龍大大</span><span class="push-right">31F 10/17 01:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/readper/push?y=12" target="_blank">readper</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:長毛前一天晚上先回台灣了 沒跟TPA一起回來</span><span class="push-right">32F 10/17 01:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dark2001/push?y=12" target="_blank">Dark2001</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:長毛提早回來了,早上就看到在巴洽鬼混。</span><span class="push-right">33F 10/17 01:55</span></div>
對了
隊長有說帝王想買重機
bebe要買"冰箱"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
其他幾個沒聽到= =
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gj942l41l4/push?y=12" target="_blank">gj942l41l4</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嫉妒噓 我也要erica</span><span class="push-right">34F 10/17 01:58</span></div>
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真的耶我都沒發現
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/okmijnuhyex/push?y=12" target="_blank">okmijnuhyex</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可是bebe不是想買電是嗎XD</span><span class="push-right">36F 10/17 01:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cipolin/push?y=12" target="_blank">Cipolin</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上觀察入微~</span><span class="push-right">37F 10/17 01:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/okmijnuhyex/push?y=12" target="_blank">okmijnuhyex</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:-----------------"視"</span><span class="push-right">38F 10/17 02:00</span></div>
黑阿..可是現場變成冰箱了= =
應該是兩個都想買吧
召喚9527現身說法~~~~~~~~~~
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blp0701/push?y=12" target="_blank">blp0701</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以招換正妹本人現身說法嗎</span><span class="push-right">39F 10/17 02:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/s81j81js/push?y=12" target="_blank">s81j81js</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幫忙製毒<a href="http://disp.cc/b/LoL&init=0#!381-4ANH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/LoL&init=0#!381-4ANH</a></span><span class="push-right">40F 10/17 02:06</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://disp.cc/b/LoL&init=0#!381-4ANH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>[閒聊] 今天去接機的一些照片 - LoL板 - Disp BBS</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="301" data-ori_h="180" style="width:301px;height:180px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/s/ppt_sms-@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div><div class="img" data-ori_w="301" data-ori_h="180" style="width:301px;height:180px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/s/ppt_xwzI@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div><div class="img" data-ori_w="301" data-ori_h="180" style="width:301px;height:180px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/s/ppt_TuxY@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>今天去接機拍得一些照片 雖然我的Hㄒㄈ很爛 但還是跟大家分享一下 我跟另一位鄉民約八點半出發,沒想到九點出頭就到了 加上現場主持人說誤點了..只好開始找一些東西來拍 TPA旗子!!!報名的才有O_Q 我也好想要 疑似工作人員二人組,那牌子會發光超帥 他們布條一拉起來全 ... ...</div></div> </div>
感謝你^^
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satan317/push?y=12" target="_blank">satan317</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:↖(′-‵ )</span><span class="push-right">43F 10/17 02:12</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h45279802/push?y=12" target="_blank">h45279802</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小夜夜來攀關係惹!</span><span class="push-right">44F 10/17 02:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wl00505477/push?y=12" target="_blank">wl00505477</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我跟原po吃過炒飯</span><span class="push-right">45F 10/17 02:14</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satan317/push?y=12" target="_blank">satan317</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原PO為何要阻止我戳小夜夜!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">47F 10/17 02:37</span></div>
好吧給你戳
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">x12345</span><span style="color:#808000">:上NA玩學英語!</span>
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讚 moon950043:說好的正面呢</div></pre>
cloud2211s.
[討論] 教學4.0同步電腦版Chrome書簽
http://disp.cc/b/191-4xlK
2012-04-27T22:23:25+08:00
2012-10-08T16:35:11+08:00
1. 打開你的電腦版Chrome,進入設定頁面
2. 個人化設定中,第一項"登入",沒同步的人會顯示登入Chrome
登入過的會顯示"中斷您的google帳號連線"和"進階"
3. 選擇進階,會看到"加密資料類型"這一欄,先確定你是否勾選到
"對所有已同步處理的資料進行加密",是的話請往下繼續看,不是請從7做起
4. 先選擇"中斷您的google帳號連線"
5. 點選第一項登入旁邊有個" Google 資訊主頁 "
6. 裡面會看到一堆你同步過的東西或是與google帳號的連結,尋找出
"Google 瀏覽器同步化",點選旁邊的"停止同步化並刪除 Google 伺服器上的資料"
(放心不會刪除你Chrome上面的書簽,只是刪除server上的書簽)
7. 回到個人化設定,第一項"登入",選擇登入Chrome
8. 這次會要你重新選擇"加密資料類型" ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Android </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cloud2211s (阿助)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [討論] 教學4.0同步電腦版Chrome書簽 <br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Apr 27 22:23:25 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
1. 打開你的電腦版Chrome,進入設定頁面
2. 個人化設定中,第一項"登入",沒同步的人會顯示登入Chrome
登入過的會顯示"中斷您的google帳號連線"和"進階"
3. 選擇進階,會看到"加密資料類型"這一欄,先確定你是否勾選到
"對所有已同步處理的資料進行加密",是的話請往下繼續看,不是請從7做起
4. 先選擇"中斷您的google帳號連線"
5. 點選第一項登入旁邊有個" Google 資訊主頁 "
6. 裡面會看到一堆你同步過的東西或是與google帳號的連結,尋找出
"Google 瀏覽器同步化",點選旁邊的"停止同步化並刪除 Google 伺服器上的資料"
(放心不會刪除你Chrome上面的書簽,只是刪除server上的書簽)
7. 回到個人化設定,第一項"登入",選擇登入Chrome
8. 這次會要你重新選擇"加密資料類型",請選擇"對密碼進行加密",其餘隨便
9. 回到手機上進行同步即可,還是失敗的人,在完成第六部稍等一會在往下做。
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇只是因為曾經自己遇到過,剛好有版友需要就分享~</span><span class="push-right">1F 04/27 22:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:YO 你發到隔壁板來啦 我在隔壁等好久XD</span><span class="push-right">2F 04/27 22:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:發在手機版很怪XD 所以發這邊</span><span class="push-right">3F 04/27 22:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝你!我發現我真的加密了=_= 我什麼時候點的啊...</span><span class="push-right">4F 04/27 22:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Chrome預設好像是加密 沒記錯的話...</span><span class="push-right">5F 04/27 22:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Bookmarks: 1389 Autofill data: 4983 Passwords: 357</span><span class="push-right">6F 04/27 22:28</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問這些預設瀏覽器也會同步到嗎?...重新輸入會死人...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其他我沒試過耶...書簽是確定可以而已</span><span class="push-right">8F 04/27 22:29</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過可以抓到原來瀏覽器以存的密碼</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:呃好吧 這樣手機上的Chrome就可以砍了 等他齊全點再下載</span><span class="push-right">10F 04/27 22:30</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:OneX預設瀏覽器也是Webkit核心嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本來就是阿XD..Android原生就是Chrome Lite</span><span class="push-right">12F 04/27 22:31</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只是很蠢的到4.0才做同步這回事...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來如此...那Chrome Beta根本就多餘了嘛...orz</span><span class="push-right">14F 04/27 22:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有聽說Google計畫要把預設瀏覽器通通改為Chrome</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔砍完了!點刪除資料竟然砍了十分鐘lol</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:同步還是有問題耶=_= 第六步等十分鐘確定網頁都OK了才做</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還是有問題? 那你要不要等看看晚點再將電腦Chrome同步</span><span class="push-right">18F 04/27 22:42</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為有看到有人反應說太快就登入 依然會失敗</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我自己是乾脆等了一天XDDDDD 反正不急...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我剛剛是看著Dashboard確定他都砍完了才重新同步orz</span><span class="push-right">21F 04/27 22:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好吧我再試試看</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不然你同步的資料改為只有書簽看看 (應該跟這沒關係)</span><span class="push-right">23F 04/27 22:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:問一下 我Google帳號有兩段式登入 這有影響嗎?...</span><span class="push-right">24F 04/27 22:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud2211s/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud2211s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:兩段式登入是? @@</span><span class="push-right">25F 04/27 22:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="https://accounts.google.com/b/0/SmsAuthConfig" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://accounts.google.com/b/0/SmsAuthConfig</a></span><span class="push-right">26F 04/27 22:51</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://accounts.google.com/b/0/SmsAuthConfig" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Google Accounts</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:介紹說明 <a href="http://sofree.cc/smsauthconfig/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://sofree.cc/smsauthconfig/</a></span><span class="push-right">27F 04/27 22:52</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://sofree.cc/smsauthconfig/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>啟動Google兩步驗證,避免帳號被盜用(手機動態密碼) - 香腸炒魷魚</strong></a> 如果你是Yahoo購物中心或是一些比較大的網路商店平台的店家,那你對動態電子鎖一定不陌生,除了原本的帳號、密碼登入外,你還要用一個Hinet的動態密碼鎖,雙門鎖才可以登入SCM系統管理商品。現在,Gmail也提供類似這樣的服務,不過它採用的是兩步驗證,透過手機傳送另一個動態密碼給你,讓你登入更安全。
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o07608.
[記者] 4.3五人副本系列─厄運之鎚(扭木)
http://disp.cc/b/191-4dOm
2012-08-28T14:53:43+08:00
2012-08-28T15:35:57+08:00
前言:
此篇原本應該是要紀念青銅龍王飛昇+熊貓人影片而發的厄運之鎚系列文第一篇
但很不巧的是,我這段期間正好回台南老家,接觸不到WOW也接觸不到我抓的圖檔......
所以停工了好一段時間,現在終於能復工了
另外也嘗試建立了屬於此系列文的分類,要不用哪個分類都覺得怪怪的......
(會不會太囂張了0.0?)
最後直到幾天前才發現WOW官網有副本資料可以查的我真是大智障......
因此以後每次寫這系列文之前,都會先引官網的介紹來增強對正史的連接
==================正文開始================
版本:4.3
地城名稱:厄運之鎚─扭木廣場
地城地區:艾澤拉斯─卡林多─菲拉斯
前置任務:聯盟/部落隨任務引導到菲拉斯地區任務,其中可接到相關任務
地城地圖:Part 1 http://i.imgur.com/xWFlP.jpg
Part 2 http://i.imgur.com/gT2tS.jpg
古城埃德薩拉斯於 12000 年前由一夜精靈巫師的秘密教派所建立,其目的是為了保護艾
薩拉女王最珍貴的不可思議的秘密。 雖然埃德薩拉斯毀於大 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> WOW </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> o07608 (無良記者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [記者] 4.3五人副本系列─厄運之鎚(扭木)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Aug 28 14:53:43 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
前言:
此篇原本應該是要紀念青銅龍王飛昇+熊貓人影片而發的厄運之鎚系列文第一篇
<div class="combine-lines">但很不巧的是,我這段期間正好回台南老家,接觸不到WOW也接觸不到我抓的圖檔......
所以停工了好一段時間,現在終於能復工了</div>
另外也嘗試建立了屬於此系列文的分類,要不用哪個分類都覺得怪怪的......
(會不會太囂張了0.0?)
<div class="combine-lines">最後直到幾天前才發現WOW官網有副本資料可以查的我真是大智障......
因此以後每次寫這系列文之前,都會先引官網的介紹來增強對正史的連接
</div>
==================正文開始================
版本:4.3
地城名稱:厄運之鎚─扭木廣場
地城地區:艾澤拉斯─卡林多─菲拉斯
前置任務:聯盟/部落隨任務引導到菲拉斯地區任務,其中可接到相關任務
地城地圖:Part 1 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/xWFlP.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/xWFlP.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/xWFlP" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/xWFlP.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
Part 2 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/gT2tS.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/gT2tS.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/gT2tS" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/gT2tS.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="combine-lines">古城埃德薩拉斯於 12000 年前由一夜精靈巫師的秘密教派所建立,其目的是為了保護艾
薩拉女王最珍貴的不可思議的秘密。 雖然埃德薩拉斯毀於大災變,這奇妙的城市大部分
仍如雄偉的厄運之槌般挺立。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">廢墟的三個不同區域已被各種生物佔據,以幽靈的精靈貴族、愚蠢的薩特與殘忍的巨魔為
主。 只有最勇敢的冒險家能進入這破壞之城,面對禁錮在古代地窖內的惡魔。</div>
(以上摘自官網<a href="http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/zone/dire-maul/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tw.battle.net/wow/zh/zone/dire-maul/</a>)
而佔據了扭木廣場的,是曾經身為夜精靈,卻屈服於上古之神的薩特們......
最勇(ㄊㄢ)敢(ㄌㄢˊ)的冒險者們一進去扭木廣場,就看到一名巨魔及一位樹人
巨魔自稱達格索大使,但沒有說他是替誰當大使<a href="http://i.imgur.com/1DpkG.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/1DpkG.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/1DpkG" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/1DpkG.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
看來他對住在此地的戈多克巨魔、薩特和樹人們沒什麼好感,認為會妨礙到「主人」
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/k11mw.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/k11mw.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/k11mw" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/k11mw.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
他要來此地替他主人找一張能夠捕捉魔法的網子,而網子在血精靈蕾瑟塔蒂絲手上
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/HXwkb.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/HXwkb.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/HXwkb" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/HXwkb.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
但正當達格索在休息時,一名叫做普希林的小鬼卻把他的咒術之書偷走了
沒有那本書,達格索便無法執行命令,只好請冒險者們幫忙拿回來了
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/DZCGN.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/DZCGN.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/DZCGN" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/DZCGN.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
另外一個委託人則是名叫佛格斯.扭木的高大樹人<a href="http://i.imgur.com/pRLAN.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/pRLAN.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/pRLAN" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/pRLAN.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
在之前就有一位德魯伊委託冒險者來找這位樹人<a href="http://i.imgur.com/kTtgw.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/kTtgw.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/kTtgw" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/kTtgw.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
他為了此處的腐化而憂心,一直想要找人幫忙他拯救整個廣場
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/BQDZA.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/BQDZA.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/BQDZA" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/BQDZA.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
他請冒險者們幫他做三件事:
打倒統治該地的薩特:瑟雷姆.刺蹄及他老大「狂野變形者」奧茲恩
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ujrgm.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ujrgm.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/ujrgm" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/ujrgm.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
淨化魔藤好讓佛格斯用來淨化整個廣場<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Eag4K.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Eag4K.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Eag4K" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Eag4K.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
並把闖進扭木廣場的水元素海多斯博恩的精華帶給他研究<a href="http://i.imgur.com/YNQlU.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/YNQlU.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/YNQlU" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/YNQlU.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
冒險者們出去沒多久,就遇到了那個小鬼普希林,並展開了追逐
一路上雙方一直互相談判,但大都是沒有交集的對話
剛見面就被嗆<a href="http://i.imgur.com/jhhYu.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/jhhYu.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/jhhYu" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/jhhYu.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
跑掉了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Z2GmH.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Z2GmH.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Z2GmH" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Z2GmH.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
在和巨大樹人激戰(好刺眼的兩個字XD)中又找到他<a href="http://i.imgur.com/oW3w3.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/oW3w3.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/oW3w3" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/oW3w3.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
又跑掉了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/vMn2B.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/vMn2B.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/vMn2B" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/vMn2B.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
互相嗆聲<a href="http://i.imgur.com/hSsz1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/hSsz1.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/hSsz1" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/hSsz1.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
一邊說要做朋友一邊跑掉了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/uRx76.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/uRx76.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/uRx76" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/uRx76.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
皺皺眉頭,此時冒險者們已經被惹毛了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/lfiG4.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/lfiG4.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/lfiG4" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/lfiG4.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
哭著跑掉惹<a href="http://i.imgur.com/81bSL.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/81bSL.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/81bSL" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/81bSL.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
跑到祕徑,終於被逼到死角,他也要動真格了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ifr9O.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ifr9O.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/ifr9O" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/ifr9O.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
雙方開打,普希林召喚元素生物助陣<a href="http://i.imgur.com/YUZWc.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/YUZWc.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/YUZWc" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/YUZWc.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
死光光之後,小鬼變大鬼了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/OHzgy.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/OHzgy.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/OHzgy" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/OHzgy.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
然後還是被又累又氣的冒險者們分屍了._.
解決掉普希林,拿到咒術之書後,冒險者們折回去解決其他的任務
先是從蕾瑟塔蒂斯身上拿到魔法網<a href="http://i.imgur.com/QVSPB.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/QVSPB.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/QVSPB" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/QVSPB.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
然後在旁邊的水池裡遇到亂跑進來的水元素海多斯博恩,也正好一併解決了
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/FYNN8.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/FYNN8.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/FYNN8" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/FYNN8.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
前面兩個只是小角色,冒險者們主要的任務還是要幫老樹人淨化整個扭木廣場
因此跟瑟雷姆.刺蹄對上也是理所當然的事<a href="http://i.imgur.com/VLbzS.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/VLbzS.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/VLbzS" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/VLbzS.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
看到這傢伙所在的地方,似乎是個祭壇,旁邊居然還有一堆堆的顱骨
這下確定這裡不會幹什麼好事了,雙方不用多說立刻大打出手
就當瑟雷姆.刺蹄倒下的那一刻,遠處傳來蒼老但生氣蓬勃的大喊:
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/154Yf.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/154Yf.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/154Yf" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/154Yf.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
當初佛格斯.扭木委託冒險者們時,曾經說過瑟雷姆.刺蹄控制了一個古樹人
看來他的死亡使的這位古樹人成功脫離控制了
果不其然,當隊伍來到大溫室時,看到了在那裡等著的老鐵安(那個字打不出來0.0)
他為了報答冒險者的恩情並贖罪,因此要打開奧茲恩老巢:艾德雷斯神殿的大門
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ek1wt.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ek1wt.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/ek1wt" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/ek1wt.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/louZO.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/louZO.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/louZO" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/louZO.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
大門打開了,那也是一切攤牌的時候了,「狂野變形者」奧茲恩並不會乖乖作以待斃
他果然薩特如其名,一直不斷變化身形來對抗冒險者們
原本的樣子<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Lh7lF.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Lh7lF.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Lh7lF" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Lh7lF.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
變成樹人<a href="http://i.imgur.com/XnMew.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/XnMew.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/XnMew" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/XnMew.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
又變回來了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/6as22.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/6as22.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/6as22" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/6as22.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
變成大黑狼咬他面前的小紅帽(就是我._.)<a href="http://i.imgur.com/uHr3t.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/uHr3t.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/uHr3t" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/uHr3t.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
但無論他怎麼狂野變形,最終還是倒在冒險者們的正義與貪婪之刃下
而在他的寶座旁邊,躺著的就是需要被淨化的魔藤果實
冒險者們把果實裝到淨化之匣裡後就打道回府了<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Z14v1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Z14v1.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Z14v1" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Z14v1.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
達格索看到書和網子都回來了,自然是非常開心,但他主人的目的依然不明
書<a href="http://i.imgur.com/dbxqa.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/dbxqa.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/dbxqa" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/dbxqa.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/f7g3C.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/f7g3C.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/f7g3C" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/f7g3C.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
網子<a href="http://i.imgur.com/pSvZy.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/pSvZy.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/pSvZy" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/pSvZy.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/x1Lkg.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/x1Lkg.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/x1Lkg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/x1Lkg.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
姑且不管他主人,重要的是要讓佛格斯.扭木知道薩特們已經被消滅的消息
水元素精華<a href="http://i.imgur.com/dgTIO.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/dgTIO.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/dgTIO" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/dgTIO.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
老扭木說他還要再研究<a href="http://i.imgur.com/9z1Yo.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/9z1Yo.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/9z1Yo" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/9z1Yo.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
魔藤<a href="http://i.imgur.com/U7B5t.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/U7B5t.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/U7B5t" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/U7B5t.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
要淨化厄運之鎚,還有一段路要走<a href="http://i.imgur.com/7w9Ic.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/7w9Ic.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/7w9Ic" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/7w9Ic.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
不過邪惡的薩特們死光光是最重要的<a href="http://i.imgur.com/2Ws4K.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/2Ws4K.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/2Ws4K" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="400" style="width:640px;height:400px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/2Ws4K.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
看著一棵擁有悠久歷史的樹人如此的開心
不管是為了財寶、為了經驗值還是為了劇情的冒險者們,都也感到心滿意足
告別這位老樹人後,便離開此處前往下一個冒險了
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個人心得與補充:
這個任務對我來說也是很麻煩的一個(其實厄運之鎚三個副本都很麻煩)
最主要是普希林的截圖,一開始不知道他會有那麼多對話
結果第一次打的時候,話都被另一個隊友講走了,截不到圖,老鐵安那裏也是
因此只好打第二次,遇到了就衝上去對話+截圖(反正不被秒殺就好)
大概就是這樣吧,接下來還有兩個副本,會依序推出,請大家拭目以待
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:淨化摩藤的任務在無印時代是在月光林地接的</span><span class="push-right">1F 08/28 14:59</span>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小鬼身上會出一張拾取後綁定的食譜 材料在副本內拔的蘿蔔</span></div>
對,是有那個食譜沒錯,但因為跟任務無關所以我沒寫
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:水元素的話是某次改版之後 法師可以額外製作的60級晶水</span><span class="push-right">4F 08/28 15:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我想那是許多法師老骨頭共同的回憶(笑</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:厄運之槌另外兩張地圖各自有各自的歷史與特色</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:像以前沒有搜尋器 必須步行進入副本時 厄西與厄北的入口</span>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:厄北則是完美供品團 這項機制依然存在</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ackboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">ackboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:厄北打完美供品團的流程 還會有兩個隱藏任務能接</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elizas1201/push?y=12" target="_blank">elizas1201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當大王時還蠻好玩的,裡面每個肥肥都可對話</span><span class="push-right">12F 08/28 15:07</span></div>
喂......
都被你們雷光了,這樣我戈多克平民區的文章就不用寫啦OAQ
小心我把你們趕去雷光大廳(誤)
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elizas1201/push?y=12" target="_blank">elizas1201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不要啦~ XD, 那個,週四改版後要記得去通靈和血色喔.</span><span class="push-right">13F 08/28 15:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elizas1201/push?y=12" target="_blank">elizas1201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:通靈的話,一進去後要留意二旁牆上的畫.好吧,當初看到時</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elizas1201/push?y=12" target="_blank">elizas1201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:覺得XXXX,所以我都會叫人不要漏掉那些畫 @@</span></div>
畫像怎麼了0.0?
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elizas1201/push?y=12" target="_blank">elizas1201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:星期四你去看就知了 @@</span><span class="push-right">16F 08/28 15:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:60等法師都要去厄東解晶水任務,以前厄運最入門單刷</span><span class="push-right">17F 08/28 15:16</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:的部分就是厄東的小花小草</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:此外厄東還有t0.5的召喚王,會掉落薩滿的覆生圖騰(忘</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:記確定名字,只記得減少屍變的法術cd)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那是在薩滿圖騰跟pal聖物有特殊效果的年代</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wildbloodcat/push?y=12" target="_blank">wildbloodcat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:薩特是接受了燃燒軍團的惡魔之力, 納迦才是上古神...</span><span class="push-right">22F 08/28 15:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:魔藤任務以前還要去西曆蘇斯,真懷念的感覺,以前</span><span class="push-right">23F 08/28 15:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatfatfatpig/push?y=12" target="_blank">fatfatfatpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:厄東尾王後面的大堆富瑟銀礦還要大家骰著挖</span></div>
可是那堆瑟銀礦我都沒辦法挖......有看到礦點可是沒看到礦0.0
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這什麼標題XDDD 先推再看</span><span class="push-right">25F 08/28 15:30</span></div>
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[閒聊] PenCraft材質包
http://disp.cc/b/191-3zZz
2012-05-06T16:35:38+08:00
2012-05-06T17:24:19+08:00
度過了前兩周之後總算不會對野生的怪物太恐懼了
(雖然地底洞窟不知道從哪傳來的吼聲還是很可怕...)
拜鐵盔甲很硬所賜,也漸漸習慣這些玩耍了 (白金聖衣不是蓋的!)
不過還有一個讓我玩起來比較不怕的要素 - Pen醬的材質包 >w</"
http://w.livedoor.jp/penchan/
【Minecraft】 ペンちゃん風テクスチャ 【PenCraft】 - livedoor Wiki(ウィキ) PC用ゲームソフト「Minecraft」で使えるペンちゃん風テクスチャPenchanCraft(16× 16)公式サイトです。 ...
我不會弄好讀... 也沒有網誌,所以先一張張貼圖
晚點再看看有沒有比較方便的處理法哦
http://i.imgur.com/3Y8MP.png
太陽變成一個可愛的喵臉
http://i.imgur.com/AZD1X.png
日正當中的時候抬頭看天空心情會很好哦,姆啊~~~
http://i.imgur.com/h1vjr.png
石頭和石炭也變成笑臉,而且挖的時候裂縫會變成一隻熊
http://i.imgur.co ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Minecraft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> azuel (大中天)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [閒聊] PenCraft材質包<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun May 6 16:35:38 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
度過了前兩周之後總算不會對野生的怪物太恐懼了
(雖然地底洞窟不知道從哪傳來的吼聲還是很可怕...)
拜鐵盔甲很硬所賜,也漸漸習慣這些玩耍了 (白金聖衣不是蓋的!)
不過還有一個讓我玩起來比較不怕的要素 - Pen醬的材質包 >w</"
<a href="http://w.livedoor.jp/penchan/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://w.livedoor.jp/penchan/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://w.livedoor.jp/penchan/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>【Minecraft】 ペンちゃん風テクスチャ 【PenCraft】 - livedoor Wiki(ウィキ)</strong></a> PC用ゲームソフト「Minecraft」で使えるペンちゃん風テクスチャPenchanCraft(16× 16)公式サイトです。 ...</div></div> </div>
我不會弄好讀... 也沒有網誌,所以先一張張貼圖
晚點再看看有沒有比較方便的處理法哦
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/3Y8MP.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/3Y8MP.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/3Y8MP" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/3Y8MP.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
太陽變成一個可愛的喵臉
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/AZD1X.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/AZD1X.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/AZD1X" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/AZD1X.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
日正當中的時候抬頭看天空心情會很好哦,姆啊~~~
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/h1vjr.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/h1vjr.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/h1vjr" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/h1vjr.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
石頭和石炭也變成笑臉,而且挖的時候裂縫會變成一隻熊
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/SEb9q.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/SEb9q.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/SEb9q" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/SEb9q.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
火爐和石頭踩踏板也變成這樣,火爐在燒的時候眼睛會亮 (忘了照了 Orz)
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Rufuc.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Rufuc.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Rufuc" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Rufuc.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
小花變大朵了! 而且牆壁上的畫也變成作者畫的
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/VMXmM.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/VMXmM.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/VMXmM" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/VMXmM.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
其他的畫也都跟著變化
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/zbkpq.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/zbkpq.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/zbkpq" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/zbkpq.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
南瓜跟西瓜變成這樣,不會像原版的那樣有點嚇人
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/wBmJn.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/wBmJn.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/wBmJn" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/wBmJn.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
裝了蠟燭的南瓜表情也變了,唔哦哦哦哦燃燒中
這樣做成稻草人就不怕蜘蛛來了!
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/bCjPQ.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/bCjPQ.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/bCjPQ" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/bCjPQ.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
小雞很微妙... 你們為什麼要畫眼影呢
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/nv3RP.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/nv3RP.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/nv3RP" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/nv3RP.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
雪花也是笑臉哦!
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/naSvT.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/naSvT.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/naSvT" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/naSvT.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
太陽下山了,還會倒著下山 >w<
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/e9hFX.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/e9hFX.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/e9hFX" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="854" data-ori_h="480" style="width:854px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/e9hFX.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
月亮也很可愛,可惜不是滿月
還有一些小東西就不放上來啦~
<a href="http://ppt.cc/D~Gm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/D~Gm</a> 載點
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://w.livedoor.jp/penchan/d/%a5%c8%a5%c3%a5%d7%a5%da%a1%bc%a5%b8#dl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>【Minecraft】 ペンちゃん風テクスチャ 【PenCraft】 - livedoor Wiki(ウィキ)</strong></a> PC用ゲームソフト「Minecraft」で使えるペンちゃん風テクスチャPenchanCraft(16× 16)公式サイトです。 ...</div></div> </div>
ペンちゃん風テクスチャv1.24 (12/04/27) <= 這個
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/takaramono/push?y=12" target="_blank">takaramono</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:倒著下山好好笑XD</span><span class="push-right">2F 05/06 16:59</span></div>
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howar31
[教學] PBE 測試伺服器 推廣/安裝/說明/教學
http://disp.cc/b/191-3rVO
2012-04-09T15:37:54+08:00
2012-04-09T21:06:37+08:00
這些是上一篇 #1FWPCkIU 提到的內容
但是上一篇標題是在講Hecarim實測 以後有人要搜尋會找不到
所以獨立發一篇 再多加一些內容和說明
==
▏▎▍▌ Public Beta Environment 公開測試伺服器 ▌▍▎▏▏
by howar31 @ 2012.04.09
綱要 ▌▍▎▏
前序 PBE到底是什麼?
註冊PBE 心動了!加入PBE!
安裝PBE 公寓扇騎士,必先安裝PBE
激戰PBE 最新最潮最尖端,PBE實測守則
PBE官方FAQ Riot官方提供Frequently Asked Questions
PBE批踢FAQ PTT鄉民提問FAQ (絕對不是念 發Q )
後記 *‧★,:*:‧\( ̄▽ ̄)/‧: ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> LoL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (影紫‧歐人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [教學] PBE 測試伺服器 推廣/安裝/說明/教學<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Apr 9 15:37:54 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">這些是上一篇 #1FWPCkIU 提到的內容</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">但是上一篇標題是在講Hecarim實測 以後有人要搜尋會找不到</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">所以獨立發一篇 再多加一些內容和說明</span></span></div>
</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">==</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#000080">▏▎▍▌<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000080"> Public Beta Environment 公開測試伺服器 </span></span></span><span style="color:#000080">▌▍▎▏▏</span></div>
<span style="color:#808080">by howar31 @ 2012.04.09</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> 綱要 </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
前序 <span style="color:#808080">PBE到底是什麼?</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">註冊PBE <span style="color:#808080">心動了!加入PBE!</span></span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">安裝PBE <span style="color:#808080">公寓扇騎士,必先安裝PBE</span></span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">激戰PBE <span style="color:#808080">最新最潮最尖端,PBE實測守則</span></span>
<span style="color:#FFF">PBE官方FAQ <span style="color:#808080">Riot官方提供Frequently Asked Questions</span></span>
<span style="color:#FFF">PBE批踢FAQ <span style="color:#808080">PTT鄉民提問FAQ (絕對不是念 發Q )</span></span>
後記 <span style="color:#808080">*‧★,:*:‧\( ̄▽ ̄)/‧:*‧ ★</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> 前序 </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
PBE - <span style="color:#FFF">Public Beta Environment </span>公開測試環境
是由Riot官方提供的一個免費參加的測試伺服器
玩家可以<span style="color:#00F000">免費</span>隨意加入遊玩 <span style="color:#00F000">沒有任何限制</span>
PBE的帳號一創就是<span style="color:#00F000">30等 </span>還有<span style="color:#00F000">很多IP和RP</span>給你先買英雄、符文做各種測試用
只要你在伺服器上持續有活動(進行對戰) 官方還會定期<span style="color:#00F000">再發IP、RP</span>給你
上面可以測試的東西很多 官方<span style="color:#F0F000">即將推出的東西幾乎都會先出再上面</span>
不論是<span style="color:#F0F000">新道具</span>、<span style="color:#F0F000">新介面</span>、<span style="color:#F0F000">新的屬性調整</span>、<span style="color:#F0F000">平衡調整</span>
<div class="ansi">甚至從LuLu版本開始 即將推出的<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">新英雄</span></span>都會先放在上面免費給大家測試</div>
除了測試新東西 玩家也可以測試現有的東西
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">例如你看到一個造型插圖很酷炫 但是卻不知道遊戲中的模組是不是個坑</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">你可以先上PBE先買來玩玩看 真的帥到讓你CS多一倍 你再回正式伺服器上買造型</span>
</div>
<span style="color:#FFF">亦或是你要配一組新的OP符文 但不知道配出來好不好用</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">你可以先上PBE配一組來打打看 開場五分鐘就10/0/10 那就可以回去正式服配這組了</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">又或是積分戰隊不知道是什麼 想看看戰隊到底有什麼功能</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">你可以先上PBE創個戰隊做測試 熟悉功能後再回正式服上創戰隊</span>
簡而言之 就是你<span style="color:#F0F000">想測東西 先上PBE就對了</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> 註冊PBE </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
<span style="color:#008080">註冊網址 <a href="https://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/index" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/index</a></span>
註冊方式很簡單 有註冊美版的玩家應該都很熟悉 這邊稍微解釋各欄位填寫說明
╭──────────────────────────────────╮
│<span style="color:#808080">Username: </span>你要用的使用者名稱 │
│<span style="color:#808080">Email Address: </span>打你的Email │
│<span style="color:#808080">Password: </span>自己設定一組密碼 │
│<span style="color:#808080">Confirm Password: </span>再打一次密碼 │
│<span style="color:#808080">Date of Birth: <span style="color:#F00000">日<span style="color:#808080">- <span style="color:#F00000">月<span style="color:#808080">- <span style="color:#F00000">年 </span></span></span></span></span></span>這邊輸入生日(<span style="color:#F0F000">注意日月年順序</span>) │
│<span style="color:#808080">Region: Public Beta Environment (change) </span>表示註冊PBE伺服器,不用調整│
│ │
│<span style="color:#808080">□I agree to the Terms of Use </span>打勾,表示同意使用合約 │
│<span style="color:#808080">□Sign me up for the Newsletter </span>如果你想要訂閱電子報,這個就打勾 │
│<span style="color:#808080">┌───┐ </span>│
│<span style="color:#808080">│</span>驗證碼<span style="color:#808080">│ </span>系統隨機產生驗證碼圖片,就看圖打字就可以了 │
│<span style="color:#808080">└───┘ </span>│
│<span style="color:#808080">enter the characters as they appear </span>│
╰──────────────────────────────────╯
填完後 按下底下「PLAY FOR FREE」就註冊完成了
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> 安裝PBE </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
<span style="color:#008080">下載網址 <a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends - Download</strong></a></div></div> </div>
頁面中有一個大紅色按鈕「DOWNLOAD GAME」
按下去後會下載一個 <span style="color:#00F000">LOLPBE.zip </span>的檔案
這個Zip檔不知道為什麼分兩種版本:
<span style="color:#FFF">1.檔案很小只有<span style="color:#00F000">幾KB</span></span>
<span style="color:#FFF">2.檔案很大大概有<span style="color:#00F000">1.4GB<span style="color:#FFF">左右</span></span></span>
不管抓到<span style="color:#F0F000">哪種版本都可以</span>
第二種他內含比較多遊戲檔案 但是<span style="color:#FFF">不完整 </span>等等還是要更新
第一種雖然沒包檔案 但是之後登入器一樣會下載那些遊戲檔案
所以 <span style="color:#F0F000">沒差 </span>兩種到後來都要<span style="color:#FFF">再用登入器更新一次</span>
兩種包都一定會有「<span style="color:#00F000">lol.launcher.exe</span>」和「<span style="color:#00F000">lol.launcher.admin.exe</span>」兩個檔案
有這兩個就沒問題了 這就是<span style="color:#FFF">登入器(下載器)</span>
<span style="color:#808080">(有玩過Minecraft的就知道 只要一個exe 他就會自動把其他遊戲檔案抓下來)</span>
把捉到的Zip檔<span style="color:#00F000">解壓縮在你想安裝的資料夾<span style="color:#808080">(想裝在桌面上就解在桌面上)</span></span>
然後點兩下<span style="color:#00F000">執行</span>「<span style="color:#00F000">lol.launcher.exe</span>」讓他更新下載遊戲資料
等下載完成後 遊戲就安裝完成了
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">※ 注意 檔案會下載在你剛剛解壓縮的資料夾中,所以解壓縮位置就是安裝位置</span></span><span style="color:#800000">▌▍▎▏▏</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> 激戰PBE </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
進行遊戲方法有點土 就是<span style="color:#00F000">執行</span>「<span style="color:#00F000">lol.launcher.exe</span>」 接下來就跟美版登入一模一樣
你可以<span style="color:#00F000">自己建立一個捷徑</span>在桌面或開始功能表上
在PBE上玩 拜託<span style="color:#F0F000">不要排什麼NG或AI <span style="color:#808080">那個去排Rank的先去撞牆再往下看(誤)</span></span>
平常PBE上的玩家很少<span style="color:#808080">(雖然有時候例外,我測Hecarim那天排了半小時才進伺服器...orz)</span>
要測東西或進行對戰的話 請<span style="color:#F0F000">開自訂</span>來測試 或<span style="color:#F0F000">加入別人的自訂</span>
<div class="ansi">但是<span style="color:#F0F000">自訂最少要<span style="background-color:#800000">兩個人<span style="background-color:#000">才能玩 </span></span></span>所以一般都會找一個一起測</div>
<span style="color:#FFF">兩個人敵對 一邊配四個AI 講好不要互殺、不要推塔、都只殺AI就好</span>
當然你要跟對面殺個你死我活也是可以
找人方式有兩種:
<span style="color:#008080">1.直接進入「Public Chat 1」這個頻道</span>
幾乎所有人都在上面 你就直接喊人跟你玩就好<span style="color:#808080">(用中文喊大概沒人理你...)</span>
例如那天我要測Hecarim,我就喊:
「anyone want to play Hecarim?」或「need 1 to check out the new champ」
然後就一堆人說「me」「I do」「inv me」 你就加他們就好
<span style="color:#808080">(外國人好像很少說什麼「++」之類...)</span>
如果有其他人在揪團 你也可以說「invite me」請他們邀請你
<span style="color:#808080">(PBE上的玩家幾乎都在Public Chat 1這個頻道</span>
<span style="color:#808080">PTT頻道是空的...Taiwan頻道也是空的...連美版大頻道reddit都是空的...</span>
<span style="color:#808080">雖然我還是會進去就是了...orz)</span>
<span style="color:#008080">2.上PTT發揪團文</span>
直接揪鄉民 遊戲內還可以用中文互相嘴砲 很快樂
<span style="color:#808080">(詳細揪團文發文規則請見置底板規)</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> PBE官方FAQ </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
官方提供一個常見問題的說明文章 這邊稍微翻譯一下
<span style="color:#008080">官方FAQ網址 <a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1490366" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1490366</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1490366" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>PBE Frequently Asked Questions - League of Legends Community</strong></a>
PBE Frequently Asked Questions Public Beta Environment ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008000">What is the Public Beta Environment?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">什麼是PBE?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">The Public Beta Environment is a test-centric realm used to find bugs before</span>
<span style="color:#808080">patches are released live. PBE is not a place for serious competition or a</span>
<span style="color:#808080">place to try out new champions. It is a test environment where our players</span>
<span style="color:#808080">can help report bugs and give us feedback on changes we are implementing</span>
<span style="color:#808080">before it goes on the regular servers. We are looking for patient players</span>
<span style="color:#808080">with strong attention to detail to help us out.</span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">PBE是一個測試環境,專門提供給即將上架的更新做BUG測試用,PBE不是讓你們認真對戰</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">廝殺或測試新英雄的地方<span style="color:#808080">(譯註: 從LuLu版本以後就是了,新英雄都會放在PBE上進行測</span></span>
<span style="color:#808080">試)<span style="color:#FFF">,這是一個提供玩家針對我們即將實裝的內容,進行測試問題和回饋意見的一個測試</span></span>
<span style="color:#FFF">環境,我們期待有耐心的玩加可以幫助我們做測試。</span></div>
<span style="color:#008000">How can I participate?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我該如何加入PBE?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">You can find the sign up form here:</span>
<span style="color:#808080"><a href="https://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/index" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/index</a></span>
<span style="color:#808080">If you get an error on the sign up page, it can be due to a few things. The</span>
<span style="color:#808080">most common reason for the error is the username being taken. Additionally,</span>
<span style="color:#808080">you must format your birthday in a DD-MM-YYYY format. Make sure all the</span>
<span style="color:#808080">requirements for the fields are met before you click submit.</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">你可以在這裡註冊:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF"><a href="https://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/index" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/index</a></span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">如果你註冊時跳出錯誤,可能是你填錯了一些東西,最常見的問題是你想要的名字已經</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">被註冊走了,此外,注意你的生日日期格式是「日-月-年」,送出註冊單之前記得確定</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">所有欄位都填寫了。</span></div>
<span style="color:#008000">I have an account, but I need to download the client! Where can I get it?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我有帳號了,但我要下載遊戲程式!哪裡可以下載?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">You can download the client here:</span>
<span style="color:#808080"><a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends - Download</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">這裡:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF"><a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends - Download</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008000">I lost my password and can no longer log in, what can I do?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我忘了我的密碼,沒辦法登入了,怎辦?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">Currently, account recovery is not available for PBE. We will be implementing</span>
<span style="color:#808080">many features in the future to better mimic the regular servers, inclucing a</span>
<span style="color:#808080">page for account recovery. We currently do not have a time frame as to when</span>
<span style="color:#808080">this will be available. Be sure to keep track of your user names and</span>
<span style="color:#808080">passwords. For those who have not been able to sign in due to losing their</span>
<span style="color:#808080">password, I apologize that you have not been able to log in during this time.</span>
<span style="color:#808080">You will be able to create a new account when we reopen sign ups.</span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">目前為止,PBE沒有實裝帳密復原的功能,未來我們會在PBE上裝更多功能,讓PBE更能模</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">擬正式伺服器,當然包含帳密復原的功能,但目前我們還沒時間弄。請玩家務必熟記自</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">己的帳號和密碼,那些已經搞丟密碼沒辦法登入的,你們沒救了<span style="color:#808080">(暫時無法登入)<span style="color:#FFF">,很抱</span></span></span>
<span style="color:#FFF">歉目前你們沒有辦法登入遊戲,但你們可以重新註冊一個新帳號來玩。</span></div>
<span style="color:#008000">I do not have any IP/RP on my account, what should I do?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我的帳號裡面沒有IP和RP,怎辦?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">For players who have just signed up for PBE, it may take up to an hour before</span>
<span style="color:#808080">you receive a handful of points. We limit the number of IP and RP granted in</span>
<span style="color:#808080">order to make sure that everyone is testing all parts of the game, including</span>
<span style="color:#808080">the store. Players will receive stipends of RP and IP by remaining active on</span>
<span style="color:#808080">PBE. We do this to ensure people are testing parts of our store.</span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">剛剛註冊加入PBE的玩家,可能需要等一個小時左右就可以拿到一筆錢,我們並沒有發無</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">限的IP和RP給玩家,為了是確保玩家們可以測試到遊戲的各種面向,包含商店的功能,</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">只要玩家在PBE上持續有活動,我們就會一直發錢給你,這樣做是為了確保玩家們能夠測</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">試到商店的功能。</span></div>
<span style="color:#008000">I accidentally purchased the wrong items, can I get this refunded?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">乾,我買錯東西了,可以退費嗎?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">We are not able to refund anything purchased on the PBE, as it is a testing</span>
<span style="color:#808080">environment. Even if you have purchased the wrong champion, you will still be</span>
<span style="color:#808080">able to help us find bugs in our platform and in our new features. Players</span>
<span style="color:#808080">will be given a weekly stipend, so if you purchased the wrong champion</span>
<span style="color:#808080">previously, you should be able to get the one you want soon!</span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">不行<span style="color:#808080">(哈哈你看看你σ`▽′) 。▽。)σ)<span style="color:#FFF">,PBE目前沒有任何退費機制,這只是個測試伺</span></span></span>
<span style="color:#FFF">服器嘛,就算你買錯了英雄,你還是可以協助我們測試BUG和新功能,玩家每週都會拿到</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">一筆補助金,因此就算你買錯了英雄,你還是很快就可以買到你想要的!</span></div>
<span style="color:#008000">What am I supposed to be testing?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我是要測試什麼?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">We generally will post what you will be testing in this subform. Currently we</span>
<span style="color:#808080">are testing features and various fixes that we are preparing for Season 2.</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">一般來說,我們會在這個論壇貼文章,說明希望玩家們測試什麼,目前我們正在測試一些</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">新功能和BUG修正,以及準備測試第二季的功能。</span>
<span style="color:#808080">(譯註: 這文章有點老了,去年底的文章,還在測試第二季)</span>
<span style="color:#008000">I found a bug, how do I report it?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">媽啊,我找到蟲了,該怎麼回報?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">First, look at your region's PBE sub-forum to see if anyone else has reported</span>
<span style="color:#808080">a similar bug. If so, please try to add to it, including a description of</span>
<span style="color:#808080">what happened and reproduction steps. If you are unable to find an existing</span>
<span style="color:#808080">post regarding the bug you have found, please refer to this thread on how to</span>
<span style="color:#808080">start your own:</span>
<span style="color:#808080"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1203830" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1203830</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1203830" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>How to submit a bug report! - League of Legends Community</strong></a>
How to submit a bug report! Public Beta Environment ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">首先,先上PBE論壇看看是不是有人回報過了,如果有,請在那篇文章底下回覆,描述一</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">下發生了什麼事、以及你怎麼觸發這個BUG的。如果找不到有人回報過的文章,請按照下</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">面這篇文章的說明,發一篇新的回報文:</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1203830" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1203830</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1203830" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>How to submit a bug report! - League of Legends Community</strong></a>
How to submit a bug report! Public Beta Environment ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008000">Where can I chat with my fellow testers?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我可以在哪裡跟其他測試者聊天?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">Come hang out in Public Chat 1 and share what you found with other players on</span>
<span style="color:#808080">PBE. Generally, you will find a few Rioters around as well who are happy to</span>
<span style="color:#808080">receive your feedback, answer your questions, and occasionally play a game</span>
<span style="color:#808080">with a few people in the channel.</span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#FFF">來掛在「Public Chat 1」頻道吧!在這個頻道裡面分享你在PBE上發現了什麼,你還會</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">發現有一些Riot員工也在上面,他們很樂意聽你的回報或回答你的問題,有時候他們還</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">會跟頻道裡的玩家一起進行對戰呢。</span></div>
<span style="color:#008000">What can I discuss from the PBE?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">我可以公開討論哪些PBE的東西?</span>
<span style="color:#808080">There is no Non Disclosure Agreement.</span>
<span style="color:#808080">You are welcome to discuss anything that is patched to the Public Beta</span>
<span style="color:#808080">Environment, although we would prefer it if you keep most bug reports and</span>
<span style="color:#808080">feedback contained to the PBE forums.</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">沒有限制,PBE沒有保密條約。</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">你可以公開討論任何PBE上面的任何東西,雖然我們希望玩家專注在PBE論壇上討論測試</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">BUG和回饋意見。</span>
<span style="color:#808080">For other questions, here is an excellent guide written by Elo Tartarus. You</span>
<span style="color:#808080">can find the latest version here:</span>
<span style="color:#808080"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1406162" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1406162</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1406162" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>A guide to the PBE! Commonly asked questions answered! - League of Legends Community</strong></a> A guide to the PBE! Commonly asked questions answered! Public Beta Environment ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">更多的問題,可以參考Elo Tartarus寫的精美導覽文,你可以在這裡找到最新的文章版</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">本:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1406162" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1406162</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1406162" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>A guide to the PBE! Commonly asked questions answered! - League of Legends Community</strong></a> A guide to the PBE! Commonly asked questions answered! Public Beta Environment ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#808080">(譯註: 這就不翻了=_= 有空再翻吧...orz 這文章也沒多新 是去年底的文章)</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> PBE批踢FAQ </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
上一篇有人在推文問了一些問題 我順便轉貼過來
<span style="color:#F0F000">有板友碰到D3DX9_39.dll遺失的問題</span>
解決方法有兩種:
1.直接<span style="color:#008080">上網Google「D3DX9_39.dll」</span>
有一種dll資料庫網站他有超多dll 例如這個 <a href="http://www.dll-files.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dll-files.com/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.dll-files.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Download your missing .dll files - DLL-files.com</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="100" data-ori_h="100" style="width:100px;height:100px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://www.dll-files.com/img/icon_100x100.gif" alt="[圖]" /></div></div></div> </div>
Google到就直接<span style="color:#00F000">下載單一D3DX9_39.dll檔</span>案 然後<span style="color:#00F000">放在遊戲資料夾內</span>即可
2.<span style="color:#008080">上網Google「DirectX」</span>
然後<span style="color:#00F000">重新安裝DirectX</span>就可以了
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/an138/push?y=12" target="_blank">an138</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:PBE能夠玩家打玩家嗎? PBE的程式跟美版共用嗎?</span><span class="push-right">04/08 21:56</span></div>
PBE你就當作是一個全新的伺服器 就像美版、歐版、台版、陸版、韓版一樣
他是個獨立伺服器 功能都跟一般一樣
不同的是他是公測服 所以常常會有新東西在上面 而且會發錢給你玩
至於檔案呢要另外下載 就像台版跟美版要兩份檔案一樣
畢竟PBE有些領先的新東西 所以不能跟美版共用 需要獨立的檔案
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Buliwyf/push?y=12" target="_blank">Buliwyf</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還是綠ping習慣突然不適應</span><span class="push-right">04/08 22:21</span></div>
Ping的問題我個人很遲鈍 所以其實沒什麼感覺lol
玩起來我感覺是還好 反正也只是測試 戰積什麼不重要XD
一般來說Ping大約在180~200左右
看這數字應該跟美版差不多 有在打美版的應該都能適應PBE
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Nangol </span></span><span style="color:#808000"><span style="background-color:#000">:話說我有拿到ip rp 但等級只有1呢@@ </span></span>04/09 16:41</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ciwewa </span></span><span style="color:#808000"><span style="background-color:#000">:我一開始是沒拿到IP RP 去打一場教學 就30等有IP RP </span></span>04/09 16:42</div>
</div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/darren800922/push?y=12" target="_blank">darren800922</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我進去只有一等耶= =</span><span class="push-right">04/09 17:29</span></div>
剛創帳號如果不是30等 去隨便打一場 輸贏不重要 打完就升30等了:D
找不到人或排不到 就去打教學模式也算一場
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yuchiao0921 </span></span><span style="color:#808000"><span style="background-color:#000">:我進去不能打中文耶 </span></span>04/09 17:04</div>
大廳那邊不能打中文 進遊戲後才可以
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080"> 後記 </span></span><span style="color:#000080"> ▌▍▎▏</span></div>
乾 剛剛打到PTT FAQ的時候程式當掉 整個文章回溯到「下載」寫完而已...= =
害我後面一大段又重新打過... 多花了半個多小時囧
總之PBE就是一個伺服器 上面常常會有新東西 大家沒事上去玩玩吧~:D
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測試伺服器而已 我都只找一個人陪我測東西
說不定那個蠻王在測如何Troll (?)
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/drummers/push?y=12" target="_blank">drummers</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實滿好玩得 還可以免費買史詩SKIN玩</span>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ciwewa/push?y=12" target="_blank">ciwewa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就是類似以前RO那樣 走一走會回逤 小兵會憑空出現</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ciwewa/push?y=12" target="_blank">ciwewa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知道是不是我家種花的問題...</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hank898989/push?y=12" target="_blank">hank898989</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 雖然沒時間完lo</span><span class="push-right">22F 04/09 16:16</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/k2604810/push?y=12" target="_blank">k2604810</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推!! 話說路徑有中文似乎無法執行(慘痛經驗QQ)</span><span class="push-right">24F 04/09 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/x5723/push?y=12" target="_blank">x5723</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">25F 04/09 16:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nangol/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nangol</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:話說我有拿到ip rp 但等級只有1呢@@</span><span class="push-right">26F 04/09 16:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ciwewa/push?y=12" target="_blank">ciwewa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我一開始是沒拿到IP RP 去打一場教學 就30等有IP RP</span><span class="push-right">27F 04/09 16:42</span></div>
唉唷抱歉忘記說 有些人剛創只有1等 但是隨便打一場就會直升30等了!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fff417/push?y=12" target="_blank">fff417</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">28F 04/09 16:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cwoldind/push?y=12" target="_blank">cwoldind</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 第九頁「有奈辛的玩加」>有耐心的玩家</span><span class="push-right">29F 04/09 16:51</span></div>
感謝提醒 一定是什麼奈辛什麼瓦里打太多...(?)
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yuchiao0921/push?y=12" target="_blank">yuchiao0921</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我進去不能打中文耶</span><span class="push-right">30F 04/09 17:04</span></div>
大廳那邊不能打中文 進遊戲後才可以
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hiphopkai/push?y=12" target="_blank">hiphopkai</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有人要一起測試嗎 水球我</span><span class="push-right">31F 04/09 17:05</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hiphopkai/push?y=12" target="_blank">hiphopkai</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:已徵到</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/darren800922/push?y=12" target="_blank">darren800922</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我進去只有一等耶= =</span><span class="push-right">33F 04/09 17:29</span></div>
剛創帳號如果不是30等 去隨便打一場 輸贏不重要 打完就升30等了:D
找不到人或排不到 就去打教學模式也算一場
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NomadShu/push?y=12" target="_blank">NomadShu</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文,不m嗎?</span><span class="push-right">34F 04/09 17:40</span></div>
把推文一些問題加入內文的FAQ中 :P
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kuku321/push?y=12" target="_blank">kuku321</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今天下午怪怪,雖然ping不高160,但超LAG還容易斷...</span><span class="push-right">35F 04/09 17:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kuku321/push?y=12" target="_blank">kuku321</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:昨晚跟今早打都還正常的orz</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:PING170 但是超LAG 會回朔</span><span class="push-right">37F 04/09 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:呃 我打PBE到現在沒有回溯過耶O_Oa</span><span class="push-right">38F 04/09 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會往前走一走忽然回到原位</span><span class="push-right">39F 04/09 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嗯嗯我懂你們的意思 不過我沒碰過~"~a</span><span class="push-right">40F 04/09 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超慘的 我第一場教學快打20分鐘了 打不完</span><span class="push-right">41F 04/09 18:05</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過還是謝謝原PO教學QQ</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:OH 排初級電腦好快 不道30秒!!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!? 我之前排了五分鐘... 可能最近人比較多吧囧</span><span class="push-right">44F 04/09 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:新英雄威武!!</span><span class="push-right">45F 04/09 18:25</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:1 2 招 範圍傷害 3 4 控場</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOOoooOOO/push?y=12" target="_blank">OOOoooOOO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:進去玩以後沒有回朔了 只有點小延遲</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/foxy0703/push?y=12" target="_blank">foxy0703</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:玩符文合成 不然跟本買不了想要的XD</span><span class="push-right">48F 04/09 19:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ciwewa/push?y=12" target="_blank">ciwewa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今天再玩就正常了0.0 新英雄真威...</span><span class="push-right">49F 04/09 19:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/onlysophisca/push?y=12" target="_blank">onlysophisca</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我反而不能執行...</span><span class="push-right">50F 04/09 19:53</span></div>
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讚 c0911910381:為啥我點開是韓文= =是因為我有下載韓版的關西嗎?
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear840627</span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼我打一場電腦 一場教學 現在還在2等@@ 求解~~急</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">c0912370267</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想註冊點<a href="http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/signup/redownload</a>後卻變成了<a href="http://community.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://community.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/</a>這個了QAQ</span>
讚 lanlan604:為什麼我辦了一隻帳密 再就是登不進去??
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nono91714</span><span style="color:#808000">:為何他叫我要創造召喚師 我都創好丈好了</span></div></pre>
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Re: [情報] 1.2.4新增的玩意兒(修正)
http://disp.cc/b/191-3m02
2012-03-24T02:28:41+08:00
2012-03-23T16:13:05+08:00
我還發現一些沒有出現在上面文章的更新~
1.在多人模式中原本在logout的時候寵物會無法和主人互動,這個bug貌似修好了
2.當動物進入發情期後,只要一生下小baby立刻就會恢復成一般狀態
3.原本多人中按F3的seed會顯示0,現在整個拿掉了orz
4.紅石燈會delay一下再熄滅
5.原本(多人)飛在天空中登出後再登入會掉下來,現在不會了
6.貓咪看到床會跳跳跳 在上面亂晃 坐下(不是不會移動的那種坐下
==以下是八卦,我沒測過==
7.絲綢之觸(精準採集)不能回收玻璃的bug修好了
8.礦車上可以用安德美之眼
9.不能騎小豬了
10.多人之下無法用斷線的方法洗礦車~
11.雪人不會被雪給K傷
12.骨弓和匠要先"看"到你才會去擁抱你(除非你自己先撲上去... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Minecraft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> andychay2 (Andychay2)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [情報] 1.2.4新增的玩意兒(修正)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Mar 24 02:28:41 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
我還發現一些沒有出現在上面文章的更新~
1.在多人模式中原本在logout的時候寵物會無法和主人互動,這個bug貌似修好了
2.當動物進入發情期後,只要一生下小baby立刻就會恢復成一般狀態
3.原本多人中按F3的seed會顯示0,現在整個拿掉了orz
4.紅石燈會delay一下再熄滅
5.原本(多人)飛在天空中登出後再登入會掉下來,現在不會了
6.貓咪看到床會跳跳跳 在上面亂晃 坐下(不是不會移動的那種坐下
==以下是八卦,我沒測過==
7.絲綢之觸(精準採集)不能回收玻璃的bug修好了
8.礦車上可以用安德美之眼
9.不能騎小豬了
10.多人之下無法用斷線的方法洗礦車~
11.雪人不會被雪給K傷
12.骨弓和匠要先"看"到你才會去擁抱你(除非你自己先撲上去...
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nettlefish/push?y=12" target="_blank">nettlefish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:到1.2.3 單人多人女僕都沒出來</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ThunderBlade/push?y=12" target="_blank">ThunderBlade</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/@moN" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/@moN</a> 最近剛好有找到 女僕懶人包</span><span class="push-right">19F 03/23 11:11</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=18673&snA=11335&tnum=29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>【討論】1.2.3版女僕懶人包(2012/3/16最終更新版) @當個創世神(Minecraft) 哈啦板 - 巴哈姆特</strong></a>
<a href="http://truth.bahamut.com.tw/s01/201203/47a77f7f2df931bd236597a19ab1b9f8.JPG" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="427" data-ori_h="240" style="width:427px;height:240px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/img/truth.bahamut.com.tw203_47a77f7f2df931bd236597a19ab1b9f8.JPG" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>小弟第一次學模組是為了女僕!! 最初一開始是因為沒懶人包,讓我苦了半天才學會 當時心裡在想,等我學會安裝,一定要做出一個懶人包!! 所以我就已當時的心情弄出了這篇文章 其它體型裝盔甲可能會導致破圖唷 ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ThunderBlade/push?y=12" target="_blank">ThunderBlade</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上面是巴哈連結 有單人1.2.3女僕MOD</span><span class="push-right">20F 03/23 11:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ThunderBlade/push?y=12" target="_blank">ThunderBlade</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另外有1.2.3的伺服器端嗎? 都找不到 T_T</span></div>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/t19910422/push?y=12" target="_blank">t19910422</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請直接去翻巴哈女僕原文 非懶人包.. 1.1.0那篇 裡面有</span>
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andychay2.
[情報] 1.2.4新增的玩意兒(修正)
http://disp.cc/b/191-3lVi
2012-03-24T00:56:53+08:00
2012-03-23T16:13:10+08:00
熬夜等待終於有代價了(O_Q) 原本還說不會是今天放出來~因為有人身體不舒服
這次的更新好像是水桶相關人士改的
這次新增的東西有:
http://imgur.com/AtoDY
木材的顏色變成四種
這個配對是他們的顏色和原木之間的關係
這個在原先透漏的資訊裡面沒有 真讓人驚訝XD
http://imgur.com/EWUBc
這個是砂岩 最左邊是原來的
中間和右邊是新增的
中間的在1.2.3是四種怪 現在只剩下3種
右邊的中間原本是木乃伊 現在被拿掉了(作者說要重新設計一下
聽說(不負責任:P)會有木乃伊出現
然後最右邊的製造方法如下
http://imgur.com/vXho0
中間的話是要這樣做
http://imgur.com/nErJc
應該不用我多解釋吧XD
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wiki說裡面這次新增的東西:
-Chat history and much better chat editing
-多人聊天系統的編輯和歷史紀錄升級
-You can click on links in chat
-可以使用超連結
-Scroll up/down fo ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Minecraft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> andychay2 (Andychay2)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] 1.2.4新增的玩意兒(修正)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Mar 24 00:56:53 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
熬夜等待終於有代價了(O_Q) 原本還說不會是今天放出來~因為有人身體不舒服
這次的更新好像是水桶相關人士改的
這次新增的東西有:
<a href="http://imgur.com/AtoDY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/AtoDY</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/AtoDY" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1440" data-ori_h="878" style="width:1440px;height:878px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/AtoDY.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
木材的顏色變成四種
這個配對是他們的顏色和原木之間的關係
這個在原先透漏的資訊裡面沒有 真讓人驚訝XD
<a href="http://imgur.com/EWUBc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/EWUBc</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/EWUBc" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1440" data-ori_h="878" style="width:1440px;height:878px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/EWUBc.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
這個是砂岩 最左邊是原來的
中間和右邊是新增的
中間的在1.2.3是四種怪 現在只剩下3種
右邊的中間原本是木乃伊 現在被拿掉了(作者說要重新設計一下
聽說(不負責任:P)會有木乃伊出現
然後最右邊的製造方法如下
<a href="http://imgur.com/vXho0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/vXho0</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/vXho0" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1440" data-ori_h="878" style="width:1440px;height:878px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/vXho0.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
中間的話是要這樣做
<a href="http://imgur.com/nErJc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/nErJc</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/nErJc" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1440" data-ori_h="878" style="width:1440px;height:878px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/nErJc.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
應該不用我多解釋吧XD
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wiki說裡面這次新增的東西:
<span style="color:#808080">-Chat history and much better chat editing</span>
-多人聊天系統的編輯和歷史紀錄升級
<span style="color:#808080"> -You can click on links in chat</span>
-可以使用超連結
<span style="color:#808080">-Scroll up/down for history</span>
-可以用滾輪來看歷史訊息
<span style="color:#808080"> -Up/down keys for recently sent messages</span>
-上下鍵來看最近發出的訊息
<span style="color:#808080"> -Tab complete for player names</span>
-用Tab就能自動填入玩家名字!!
<span style="color:#808080"> -Copy & paste in chat</span>
-可以複製貼上
<span style="color:#808080">-A few new decoration blocks</span>
-新增新的方塊
<span style="color:#808080"> -Wooden planks now have the colour of the type of wood they came from</span>
<span style="color:#808080"> instead of the original wooden plank texture.</span>
-上面四種顏色的木材
<span style="color:#808080"> -New Sandstone Blocks</span>
-新的砂岩方塊
<span style="color:#808080">-“Back” and “Quit” buttons to OutOfMemoryScreen</span>
-當OutOfMemoryScreen時會出現"回去遊戲"或"離開遊戲"的按鈕
<span style="color:#808080">-Cats will now sit on chests and beds, preventing players from using them.</span>
-喵喵會坐在箱子和床上,讓玩家不能使用物品
<span style="color:#808080">-Added a “minimal” debug menu for testing with. It can be accessed with</span>
<span style="color:#808080"> Shift+F3 and is the same as the regular F3 menu, except without the graphs.</span>
-F3的debug menu現在有縮小版 按Shift+F3就不會有下面那一大坨擾人的圖~
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CP64/push?y=12" target="_blank">CP64</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒關係... 反正第一篇試試嘛≡ω≡ 以後再快一點(? 就是了</span><span class="push-right">13F 03/23 02:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CP64/push?y=12" target="_blank">CP64</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過是說還真得越來越是... (貓啊 我有看過 但是那是別人養的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oeg/push?y=12" target="_blank">oeg</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來開發者也是貓奴XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">15F 03/23 02:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CP64/push?y=12" target="_blank">CP64</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:(╮(╯◇╰)╭ ((無奈</span><span class="push-right">16F 03/23 02:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CP64/push?y=12" target="_blank">CP64</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以以後就拿那些東西來做"貓"博館好了(?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andychay2/push?y=12" target="_blank">andychay2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可是貓還是會亂跑orz 假的坐下</span><span class="push-right">18F 03/23 02:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CP64/push?y=12" target="_blank">CP64</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:貓壓磚(?</span><span class="push-right">19F 03/23 02:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/paladin90974/push?y=12" target="_blank">paladin90974</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:...木材分色 那做好的建築物會不會遭殃阿</span><span class="push-right">20F 03/23 02:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/paladin90974/push?y=12" target="_blank">paladin90974</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:變得好像營養不良一樣...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andychay2/push?y=12" target="_blank">andychay2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上:不會 樓樓樓上:做成標本(誤</span><span class="push-right">22F 03/23 02:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HornyDragon/push?y=12" target="_blank">HornyDragon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:貓咪XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">23F 03/23 04:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gzzzneww/push?y=12" target="_blank">gzzzneww</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這次的對話系統好棒!!!</span><span class="push-right">24F 03/23 05:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Siu/push?y=12" target="_blank">Siu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:弄一張誘餌的床就好了!!</span><span class="push-right">25F 03/23 09:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/organ63521/push?y=12" target="_blank">organ63521</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:木乃伊?</span><span class="push-right">26F 03/23 11:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不~~~~木材顏色變了囧 這樣伐木更麻煩了啦orz</span><span class="push-right">27F 03/23 16:11</span></div>
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[閒聊] 英雄聯盟桌布分享
http://disp.cc/b/191-3gdU
2012-03-05T18:38:32+08:00
2012-03-05T19:05:19+08:00
上一篇推文好多桌布分享 另開一篇好了:P
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先推這個網站 http://wallbase.cc/
Computer wallpapers / wallbase.cc
Searching for a desktop/mobile wallpapers? We got 'em. ...
這網站是專業桌布網 上面有非常多高解析度的桌布
各式各樣的題材都有 當然也有成人桌布...請自重...
免費註冊成會員 就可以把喜歡的圖片存入我的最愛
而且我的最愛還可以建立資料夾分門別類收藏 方便
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推幾張我現在用的英雄聯盟桌布
伊澤瑞爾 Ezreal
http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/836892 Classic
League of Legends - Wallpaper (#836892) / Wallbase.cc
Wallpaper Array ...
http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/852018 Frost EZ
ezreal splash link to chinese splashes lol uuu ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> LoL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (影紫‧歐人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [閒聊] 英雄聯盟桌布分享<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Mar 5 18:38:32 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
上一篇推文好多桌布分享 另開一篇好了:P
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先推這個網站 <a href="http://wallbase.cc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Computer wallpapers / wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Searching for a desktop/mobile wallpapers? We got 'em. ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi">這網站是專業桌布網 上面有非常多<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">高解析度</span></span>的桌布</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">各式各樣的題材都有</span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#000">當然也有成人桌布...請自重...</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi">免費註冊成會員 就可以把喜歡的圖片存入<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">我的最愛</span></span></div>
而且我的最愛還可以建立資料夾分門別類收藏 方便
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推幾張我現在用的英雄聯盟桌布
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">伊澤瑞爾 Ezreal</span></span></div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/836892" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/836892</a> Classic
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/836892" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends - Wallpaper (#836892) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/852018" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/852018</a> Frost EZ
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/852018" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>ezreal splash link to chinese splashes lol uuu9 com shtml - Wallpaper (#852018) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Manga / Anime ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1123065" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1123065</a> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(對面那個是艾希吧?...)</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1123065" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends Ashe Ezreal - Wallpaper (#1123065) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1132967" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1132967</a> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(我也不知道為什麼是女的...)</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1132967" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends rule 63 Ezreal - Wallpaper (#1132967) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1528916" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1528916</a> <span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">PULSEFIRE EZREAL!!!</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1528916" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>splash League of Legends artwork Ezreal - Wallpaper (#1528916) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">伊瑞莉雅 Irelia</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1303135" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1303135</a> Classic 陸版 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(明天特價耶 還在猶豫的請看)</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1303135" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends Irelia - Wallpaper (#1303135) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1379719" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1379719</a> Nightblade Irelia 陸版
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1379719" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>video games assassins League of Legends fantasy art champions Irelia - Wallpaper (#1379719) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">阿卡莉 Akali</span></span></div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/929918" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/929918</a> Classic 陸版
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/929918" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>splash League of Legends Akali - Wallpaper (#929918) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper akali splash leauge of legends ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1385690" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1385690</a> Classic 陸版+後製
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1385690" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>video games League of Legends artwork Akali fan art - Wallpaper (#1385690) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/923448" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/923448</a> 紅色阿卡
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/923448" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends Akali - Wallpaper (#923448) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Wallpaper akali leauge of legends lol ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1382046" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1382046</a> 血月阿卡
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1382046" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>video games League of Legends fantasy art girls with guns artwork Akali - Wallpaper (#1382046) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1359236" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1359236</a> 血月阿卡 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(這是陸版嗎?)</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1359236" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends artwork Akali - Wallpaper (#1359236) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1632385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1632385</a> 血月阿卡 後製
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1632385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends Akali lol - Wallpaper (#1632385) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1199535" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1199535</a> 足球阿卡
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1199535" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends - Wallpaper (#1199535) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1008624" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1008624</a> 護士阿卡 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(阿母母好可愛www)</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1008624" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends nurses Shen Amumu Akali - Wallpaper (#1008624) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1374450" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1374450</a> 跳跳三忍 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(不過這張怪怪的我就沒放成桌布)</span></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1374450" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>ninjas League of Legends Shen fishing Akali Kennen - Wallpaper (#1374450) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">阿璃 Ahri</span></span></div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668947" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668947</a> Dynastic Ahri
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668947" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>characters lol Ahri - Wallpaper (#1668947) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668948" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668948</a> Midnight Ahri
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668948" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>video games League of Legends characters lol Ahri - Wallpaper (#1668948) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668173" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668173</a> 手繪中國風阿璃
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1668173" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>brunettes tails video games cleavage League of Legends long hair weapons animal ears yellow eyes kitsune bracelets braids chinese dress fox girl facial mark swords nail polish Ahri - Wallpaper (#1668173) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">拉克斯 Lux</span></span></div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1170629" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1170629</a> Classic
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1170629" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends - Wallpaper (#1170629) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/953941" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/953941</a> Sorceress Lux
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/953941" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends skin Lux - Wallpaper (#953941) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1553304" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1553304</a> Spellthief Lux
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1553304" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends skin Lux - Wallpaper (#1553304) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1170625" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1170625</a> Spellthief Lux 陸版+後製
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1170625" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends fantasy art Lux - Wallpaper (#1170625) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1304897" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1304897</a> 手繪拉克斯
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1304897" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>League of Legends Lux - Wallpaper (#1304897) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a>
Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
最後還有一張上次情人節的巧克力製作團隊XD
<a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1702676" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1702676</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1702676" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>chocolate League of Legends cooking Annie Shen Tristana Teemo Akali poppy Gangplank Ashe Evelynn Katarina the Sinister Blade Janna Lux Miss Fortune Ezreal Sona Vayne Twisted Fate Ahri tryndamere - Wallpaper (#1702676) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
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有些是官方內建的Art圖 但也蠻好看的
<div class="ansi">到這網站來找是因為有超高解析度的關係<span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(不過有些還是沒有...沒辦法orz)</span></span></div>
大家還有什麼好桌布推薦分享嗎?XD
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<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">補充</span></span></div>
Win7和Ubuntu都可以同時設定好幾張桌布讓它輪轉:D
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<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1665443" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Moon fireworks League of Legends lanterns Annie Tristana Teemo Jax Twitch Lux Riven Garen Lee Sin Kog Maw Heimerdinger Rumble Urf Talon - Wallpaper (#1665443) / Wallbase.cc</strong></a> Wallpaper Array ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a2364983/push?y=12" target="_blank">a2364983</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://is.gd/ph29Gt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/ph29Gt</a> 剛看到的 736張</span><span class="push-right">2F 03/05 18:40</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?page=1&bsn=17532&snA=66287" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>【分享】LOL英雄CG集× 736張+1 壓縮包 @英雄聯盟 League of Legends 哈啦板 - 巴哈姆特</strong></a>
<a href="http://imgur.com/K5iUs" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1215" data-ori_h="717" style="width:1215px;height:717px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/K5iUs.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>這幾天整理了一些LOL的英雄圖 都是1215x717的圖~總共有737張~但是我少放這↓張..喜歡的要麻煩要點一下右鍵了! >" ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qq12473/push?y=12" target="_blank">qq12473</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Ezreal女版是台灣人畫的喔~ 還有skin呢</span><span class="push-right">3F 03/05 18:41</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qq12473/push?y=12" target="_blank">qq12473</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:詳情:<a href="http://ppt.cc/OeYF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/OeYF</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=606416" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>"Sexy" Ezreal? - League of Legends Community</strong></a>
"Sexy" Ezreal? General Discussion ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kullan/push?y=12" target="_blank">kullan</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:陸版的女角普遍都超棒的</span><span class="push-right">5F 03/05 18:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跳跳三忍那張很棒啊~ 好可愛 <3</span><span class="push-right">6F 03/05 18:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momomiya/push?y=12" target="_blank">momomiya</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慎原來長這樣喔= =</span><span class="push-right">7F 03/05 18:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Btw 我現在的桌布是這張 <a href="http://0rz.tw/9iYYH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://0rz.tw/9iYYH</a></span><span class="push-right">8F 03/05 18:48</span></div>
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<div class="img" data-ori_w="3000" data-ori_h="1800" style="width:3000px;height:1800px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://competitive.na.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/04%20-%20AbadonBane%20NA.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>Grand prize winners AbandonBane and Tabnir will receive a brand new Alienware m14x gaming laptop and 15,000 Riot Points! ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過我有自己裁大小 而且我有左右翻轉</span><span class="push-right">9F 03/05 18:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momomiya/push?y=12" target="_blank">momomiya</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:oh dear貓大的桌布跟我一樣耶 >///<</span><span class="push-right">10F 03/05 18:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:0.0 這麼巧</span><span class="push-right">11F 03/05 18:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sarsman/push?y=12" target="_blank">sarsman</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這桌布背景拿燈管的人是jax嗎www</span><span class="push-right">12F 03/05 18:55</span></div>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:話說看起來超像扶著路邊路燈的 XDD</span></div>
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UndeadSion.
Re: [問題] 常用字串新增欄無法輸入特殊字元
http://disp.cc/b/191-32zb
2009-04-12T10:16:08+08:00
2012-01-29T10:19:41+08:00
試試送出 HEX 字串的方式,說明如下
1. 在設定常用字串的地方,勾選 [文字內容包含控制字元]
2. 以「つД`)・゚・。」為例,將字串設為
\xC7\x4B\xC7\xF7\x60\xA1\x5E\xC8\xBD\xC8\xFE\xC8\xBD\xC8\xB9
上面的 HEX 字串其實是含 UAO 擴充字集的 Big5 字碼,可以查 UAO 字碼表,
或是把顏文字轉成 UAO 字碼以後存檔,再用支援 HEX 模式的文字編輯器查看 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PCman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> UndeadSion (UndeadSion)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問題] 常用字串新增欄無法輸入特殊字元<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Apr 12 10:16:08 2009</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《calvin4 (calvin)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 我想要輸入「つД`)・゚・。」這串顏文字,</span>
<span class="quote">: 在輸入到常用文字的那一欄時,會變為許多問號。</span>
<span class="quote">: 看似錯誤沒錯,但實際上輸出仍然錯誤。</span>
<span class="quote">: 請問我可以如何將這串顏文字加入常用字串呢?</span>
<span class="quote">: 謝謝!</span>
試試送出 HEX 字串的方式,說明如下
1. 在設定常用字串的地方,勾選 [文字內容包含控制字元]
2. 以「つД`)・゚・。」為例,將字串設為
\xC7\x4B\xC7\xF7\x60\xA1\x5E\xC8\xBD\xC8\xFE\xC8\xBD\xC8\xB9
<div class="combine-lines">上面的 HEX 字串其實是含 UAO 擴充字集的 Big5 字碼,可以查 UAO 字碼表,
或是把顏文字轉成 UAO 字碼以後存檔,再用支援 HEX 模式的文字編輯器查看
</div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">calvin4</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝!確實成功了。</span><span class="push-right">1F 04/12 18:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">newglory</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:つД`)・゚・。</span><span class="push-right">2F 06/18 02:15</span></div>
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kiuo
[感想] 電子發票Q&A
http://disp.cc/b/191-2Swr
2011-12-29T07:41:58+08:00
2012-04-02T15:11:21+08:00
作者: kiuo (無畏紳士) 看板: CVS
最近小7全面改換電子發票,網路上出現不少人問這到底是什麼東西
有不少人對這項政策反感,不過很多反感的理由來自於不瞭解
他們所質疑的地方其實已經有解決的方法,但因為政府對這政策宣導實在不足,
造成一般百姓在毫不知情的情況下拿到電子發票,而不知所措。
在這裡我稍為整理了電子發票的一些基本資訊,跟一些人提出的質疑點作說明。
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一分鐘快速上手懶人包 by but
http://but.tw/2011/12/einvoice/
but, or bug… » 電子發票懶人包
but's writings, notes, and murmurs ...
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1.去商店消費,只拿到張感熱紙,店員說這就是發票,這張紙到底要怎麼看啊?
以7-11的電子發票為例:ht ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"> 作者: kiuo (無畏紳士) 看板: CVS
標題: [感想] 電子發票Q&A
時間: Thu Dec 29 07:41:58 2011
最近小7全面改換電子發票,網路上出現不少人問這到底是什麼東西
有不少人對這項政策反感,不過很多反感的理由來自於不瞭解
他們所質疑的地方其實已經有解決的方法,但因為政府對這政策宣導實在不足,
造成一般百姓在毫不知情的情況下拿到電子發票,而不知所措。
在這裡我稍為整理了電子發票的一些基本資訊,跟一些人提出的質疑點作說明。
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一分鐘快速上手懶人包 by but
<a href="http://but.tw/2011/12/einvoice/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://but.tw/2011/12/einvoice/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://but.tw/2011/12/einvoice/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>but, or bug… » 電子發票懶人包</strong></a>
but's writings, notes, and murmurs ...</div></div> </div>
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<div class="ansi">1.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">去商店消費,只拿到張感熱紙,店員說這就是發票,這張紙到底要怎麼看啊?</span></span></div>
以7-11的電子發票為例:<a href="http://ppt.cc/nYYz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/nYYz</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="480" data-ori_h="640" style="width:480px;height:640px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/IMG200.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
這張圖中,紅色框起來的部份就是發票號碼,對獎時跟舊發票一樣,拿這個號碼去對獎即
可。
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">7-11發票快速辨認法:最上方寫紙本電子發票收執聯即為發票,請保管好,自行對獎</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#F00000"> 如寫交易明細即為收據,無法對獎。</span>
<div class="ansi">2.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">好麻煩,我不去7-11消費總行了吧?</span></span></div>
這是既定政策,現階段7-11跟OK已全面導入電子發票,明年全家跟萊爾富也會跟進。
除了超商外,其他的商店也會逐步(或已經)導入電子發票
<div class="ansi">3.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">電子發票有什麼好處?為什麼要推行電子發票?</span></span></div>
對消費者而言:減少紙張達成無紙化消費、自動幫消費者核對統一發票號碼、自動匯
獎金給消費者、讓消費者方便查詢消費記錄
對營業人而言:可以節省開立、郵寄或遞送發票之各項作業成本,縮短時程,節省統
一發票倉儲空間,簡化資料整理、登錄等申報作業
<div class="ansi">4.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">什麼少紙無紙化,還是有張大發票,是能節省到那去?</span></span></div>
舊式發票有印製月份,只要時間過了,未使用的發票也只能報廢,而電子發票只有空
白感熱紙,沒有時間到就必需報廢的問題;而舊式發票一式兩捲除了給消費者的收執
聯,還有要跟政府報帳的存根聯,在電子化後,消息資訊會上傳,不需要再有存根聯
報帳;電子發票長度不固定,不會有多印的部份。也不會再有0元發票的問題,因為
發票號碼是有消費才有。
因為多人第一次收到電子發票,都是7-11的發票,所以會有電子發票都這麼大張的誤解
。我找不到紙本電發票的規格需求,不過以我收到的新光三越電子發票來說,它的寬
度就跟信用卡簽帳單差不多,所以並非每張電子發票都像7-11的那麼大張。
另外感熱紙印的比較快,可節省印字時間。
<div class="ansi">5.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">網站上說電子發票最終的目標是完全無紙化,這樣我買完東西沒發票怎麼知道結帳</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#F0F000"> 時有沒有算錯!!</span>
我去詢問的回答是,所謂的無紙化是指"紙本電子發票",即使到最後階段,購物時還
是會給你收據。更何況那個成熟期真的到來還不知道要多少年...
(7-11的發票跟收據比對圖:<a href="http://ppt.cc/~Tl!" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/~Tl!</a> 左為紙本電子發票,右為收據)
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="640" data-ori_h="480" style="width:640px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/IMG199.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div class="ansi">6.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">感熱紙都放幾個禮拜字就不見了,開獎時只剩白單我要怎麼對獎!!</span></span></div>
政府規定,電子發票所用的感熱紙必需要能保存兩年不褪色。
雖然在台灣要真的撐到兩年很困難,不過只要你別把它放在太陽下一直曬,或是拿去
擦桌子,維持兩個月不褪色應該還不成問題...
真的擔心的話就把發票存進載具裡,還可以讓電腦幫你對獎。
<div class="ansi">7.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">載具是什麼東西,有跟沒有有什麼差?</span></span></div>
所謂載具即是商店所發行的會員卡,或是信用卡跟ICASH之類的電子錢包。
舉例來說,全聯即為全聯福利卡,新光三越為新光三越聯名卡,7-11即為ICASH。
以載具在該商店消費,可選擇將發票號碼存進卡里,這時你所拿到的小白單,將是收據
,而非發票。
如果沒有載具,你消費後拿到的都是電子發票,請當成一般發票即可。
另外,因為不是每個商品都會有會員卡,或是能用信用卡、ICASH,所以之後會再推行
個人手機條碼:<a href="http://ppt.cc/6jvv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/6jvv</a>
只要取得個人手機條碼後,即使沒有該商店的載具,只要拿出手機條碼(可以存在手機
裡,或是將他印出來作成鑰匙圈或貼紙之類的)給店員掃瞄,發票即會自動歸戶
(其實我個人的理想是像日本那樣,用手機NFC功能感應一下就能完成付款、歸戶)
<div class="ansi">8.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">存進卡里後我要怎麼知道有沒有中獎?</span></span></div>
載具分為記名載具跟不記名載具;全聯福利卡、新光聯名卡這類在申請時有填寫個資的
會員卡即為記名載具,中獎時會由營業方通知你,幫你印出中獎發票。
ICASH、悠遊卡這類在購買時沒有你個資的電子錢包即為不記名載具,有兩種對獎方式,
一種是持卡到ibon、Life-ET讓機器幫你對獎,如有對中,則列印出中獎發票。
注意,現階段超商不收中獎電子發票,要兌獎必需去郵局
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#00F000"><span style="background-color:#000">自4月6日起,財政部部開放超商線上代兌領紙本電子發票的服務,中獎的民眾可自統一</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#00F000">超商與OK超商,兌領等值商品與傳統二聯式發票相同。</span>
還有一種一勞永逸的方式,就是歸戶,將卡片跟你的帳戶結合,不但自動幫你對獎,中
獎後獎金會自動匯到你的戶頭;以ICASH為例,方法是,拿著你的ICASH跟自然人憑證,
到ibon點選生活→電子發票→載具(卡片歸戶)→插入自然人憑證輸入密碼(預設是生日)
→輸入電話、E-mail、要匯進的銀行帳戶→選擇要歸戶的載具,完成。
在ibon只能對悠遊卡跟ICASH歸戶,如果到電子發票官網,還能將金融卡、會員卡歸戶
未歸戶卡片如果遺失,卡里存的發票號碼也就跟著遺失,如果有歸戶,就算遺失,卡里
的號碼仍是你的,中獎會自動匯給你,所以能歸戶建議歸戶。歸戶後就算被人撿走,他
也不能再歸戶,如果他拿去消費,發票都算你的,超爽的~~
<div class="ansi">9.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">這樣那政府不就能知道我的消費紀錄,太可怕了,我才不要!</span></span></div>
那就不要歸戶,或是用現金消費,不過除了政府外,那些採記名會員卡的營業方跟銀行
的信用卡也能知道你的消費記錄,真的那麼擔心,最好連這些卡都別辦了。
<div class="ansi">10.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">早上買了瓶牛奶,怎麼上官網查不到發票紀錄!?</span></span></div>
電子發票的資料營業方需要隔大約一天的時間才會統一上傳,請至少等個24小時再去查
<div class="ansi">11.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">發票電子化後,那些靠發票維生的慈善團體不就斷炊了!!</span></span></div>
如果是紙本電子發票,直接捐出去就好;如果是已經歸戶的發票,也能上電子發票官網
登入帳戶,選取捐贈已經歸戶的發票給慈善團體。
另外,接下來也會開放這些慈善團體跟個人條碼一樣,申請愛心碼,欲捐贈者於結帳時
出示條碼掃瞄,發票即會自動捐給該團體,它們連對發票的人力都省了。
<a href="http://ppt.cc/lKmd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/lKmd</a>
<div class="ansi">12.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">我要怎麼拿發票去報帳?</span></span></div>
紙本電子發票印有統一編號者,即為會計憑證,消費者可直接持印有統一編號之紙本電
子發票報帳核銷(亦可直接黏貼於傳票上)。如遇紙本模糊精形,營業人可直接以工商
憑證登入整合服務平台查詢發票資訊,並下載進行報帳。
<div class="ansi">13.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">我要如何在網站上歸戶或查詢呢?</span></span></div>
首先,準備好讀卡機跟自然人憑證,連上電子發票平台官網:
<a href="https://www.einvoice.nat.gov.tw/wSite/mp?mp=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.einvoice.nat.gov.tw/wSite/mp?mp=1</a>
你會看這這個畫面:<a href="http://ppt.cc/vqWr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/vqWr</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1012" data-ori_h="874" style="width:1012px;height:874px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei1.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
把自然人憑證插進讀卡機,在紅色框輸入自然人憑證的密碼(預設是出生年月日)
會進入到這個頁面:<a href="http://ppt.cc/KdZ9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/KdZ9</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1006" data-ori_h="690" style="width:1006px;height:690px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei2.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">注意,必需要Windows系統跟IE瀏覽器才能登入</span></span></div>
接下來對頁面功能作簡單的介紹
如果你有打算歸戶,那可以先進會員管理輸入個資:<a href="http://ppt.cc/5t9g" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/5t9g</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1003" data-ori_h="730" style="width:1003px;height:730px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei3.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
沒有的話就跳過。
如果已經有歸戶過的載具,想查詢消費紀錄或是想線上捐贈發票的話,就進入查詢與捐
贈,會出現你已經歸戶過的載具:<a href="http://ppt.cc/43pR" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/43pR</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1000" data-ori_h="692" style="width:1000px;height:692px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei4.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
選取想查詢的載具,會進入查詢頁面:<a href="http://ppt.cc/tuKp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/tuKp</a>,一開始應該會跑出說查無
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1199" data-ori_h="866" style="width:1199px;height:866px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei9.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
資料,要再點一次查詢才會跑出消息明細。
接著如果你已經有存發票在載具裡的話,應該就會像圖裡,跑出發票資料,想看明細的
話,就點右邊的明細。
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#00F000"><span style="background-color:#000">如果你有想要捐贈發票的話,就勾選要捐贈的發票,然後在下方選擇要捐贈的團體:</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#00F000"><a href="http://ppt.cc/0hdX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/0hdX</a>一開始,應該是沒社團可以選,你必需自己加入社團名單,選"選取</span>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1006" data-ori_h="734" style="width:1006px;height:734px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei5.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<span style="color:#00F000">統編/名稱",會進入查詢系統,有"統編或姓名"跟"愛心碼"兩查詢方式,前者是查詢社團</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">統編資料,後者是查詢社福團體的愛心碼。在統編或姓名這欄輸入你想查詢的團體名稱,</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">例如輸入"華山",即會出現名字裡有華山的社福團體:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/7el3ktc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7el3ktc</a></span>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="828" data-ori_h="832" style="width:828px;height:832px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei16.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<span style="color:#00F000">如圖所示,會出現一堆宗教團體,不過我們的目標是華山基金會,將他加入我的最愛,</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">接著回到捐贈頁,在欲捐贈的發票前打勾,下方的選取捐贈單位現在應該會有華山基金會</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">,選好後按捐贈,如果成功捐贈,那發票號碼會變成這樣:</span>
<span style="color:#00F000"><a href="http://tinyurl.com/7g273vz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7g273vz</a>;被捐出去的發票句選欄寫已捐贈,發票後三碼會打碼,</span>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1010" data-ori_h="801" style="width:1010px;height:801px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei15.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<span style="color:#00F000">這樣就代表發票捐贈成功。</span>
<span style="color:#00F000"></span>
<span style="color:#00F000">而另一個查詢選項愛心碼,是讓你查詢該社福團體的愛心碼,可以直接在消費時刷讀愛心</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">碼,即可在消費的同時捐贈發票。一樣以華山為例,在這欄查詢華山:</span>
<span style="color:#00F000"><a href="http://tinyurl.com/7af2hj4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7af2hj4</a> 會發現,這時只剩下華山基金會,這代表只有它有去申請</span>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="809" data-ori_h="690" style="width:809px;height:690px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei17.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<span style="color:#00F000">愛心碼,而剛剛那些團體沒有去申請。</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">問題來了,這時你可能會產生疑問,只有華山基金會有愛心碼,那如果我是想捐發票給上</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">一個名單中,某個沒申請愛心碼的社福團體,這樣它拿的到嗎?</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">答案是可以,據客服人員的回答,愛心碼只是多元捐贈的一種髮式,其它社福團體,即使</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">沒申請愛心碼,但只要在電子發票平台拿查到的社福團體,都能收到線上捐贈的發票。</span>
接著如果有卡片想要線上歸戶的話,就進入會員載具歸戶:<a href="http://ppt.cc/0hdX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/0hdX</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1006" data-ori_h="734" style="width:1006px;height:734px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei5.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
裡面會出現卡片類別。選信用卡類別載具沒半張卡能讓你選(...),悠遊卡類別除非你有
感應式讀卡機,不然你也沒辦法讀取,乖乖去ibon歸戶吧;那選會員卡類別呢?進去後
裡面會跑出一堆會員卡讓你選,我選了Happy Go卡
<a href="http://ppt.cc/RKmW" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/RKmW</a> ...雖然你寫說*是必填,但我什麼都沒看到啊...
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1199" data-ori_h="832" style="width:1199px;height:832px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei10.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
晶片卡則是icash,沒什麼好說明的,跳過。
金融卡里的選項沒看過,跳過。
(結論,又是一個作半套的功能,會員卡是最大宗,但卻沒辦法歸戶,不知道什麼時候才
會搞好。)
載具管理列表沒什麼好說明的,就管理已歸戶載具的功能,你可以幫每個載具重新命名
。另外如果那天你突然覺醒了,覺得被政府掌控你的消費紀錄真的太危險了,後悔當初
不該把載具拿去歸戶,可以在這取消歸戶。
另外還有一種歸戶方式,記名制載具必需上該商店官網,登入後進行連結歸戶,以全聯
為例子:首先你必需有在全聯申請使用電子發票,連上全聯官網點選電子發票:
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/7bq6kuw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7bq6kuw</a>,進入下一個頁面後,會看到全聯先生下方閃爍的電子發票
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1655" data-ori_h="875" style="width:1655px;height:875px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei12.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
平台,到下一個頁面後選取福利卡歸戶:<a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei13.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei13.jpg</a>,
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1121" data-ori_h="880" style="width:1121px;height:880px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei13.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
到下一個頁面後,在讀卡機插進你的自然人憑證,然後點選歸戶,會出現一個頁面,要求
你輸入自然人憑證密碼,無誤後即歸戶完成:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/7oybb68" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7oybb68</a>。
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1095" data-ori_h="756" style="width:1095px;height:756px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35323203/ei14.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
在燦坤跟新光三越的網站上也有歸戶的功能,但燦坤一直無法成功歸戶,我又沒新光三越
的卡,所以無法測試,如果有人有新光的信用卡,願意歸戶的,能否試看看然後回報一下
<div class="ansi">14.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">我的中獎的發票不小心碰到水,號碼糊掉了,該怎麼辦!</span></span></div>
請持發票到開出的店家,請他從尚可辨認的資料(時間、序號、隨機碼)裡,去比對發票存
檔,如果確定無誤的話,請他列入出發票的明細,並證明明細與你手上的發票是同一份,
經查明無訛,仍可發給獎金。(還是要帶髮票去,別拿到明細證明就把發票丟了啊)
也就是說,完全糊掉就沒救了,不過這點舊發票也一樣。
而且舊發票如果店家要找,還得從"紙卷存根聯"裡找出你那張發票,也就是說,他得從倉
庫裡成堆的存根聯裡,找出可能是你那張發票的那捲存根聯,再從那捲裡,找出你那張發
票的存根...
在電子化後,可以直接用電腦查,以我個人在7-11工作過的經驗,在後台電腦用序號或是時
間查發票是非常簡單的一件事,所以對商家而言,這也減少了可能花在找存根聯的時間www
<div class="ansi">15.<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">關於愛心碼...?</span></span></div>
愛心碼已於1.16號開始試辦,目前只有大潤發跟順發3C能使用,預計7月全面上路。
如果想查詢愛心碼,請到官方首頁,點選查詢及捐贈發票一般性功能(在輸入自然人憑證
密碼欄的下方)再來選擇"查詢社福團體愛心碼",即可查詢你想知道的社福團體,如果它
有申請愛心碼的話,下方即會出現該社團資料的愛心碼跟統編,因目前不開放口述愛心碼
所以必需把條碼列印出來才可使用。
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目前所見的問題大概就這幾項,如果還有什麼我能解答疑問,我再新增。
以我個人的感想,電子發票是好的政策,消費資料全電子化,對交易的資料更好控管
(雖然對某些店家未必是好事)
一般的收銀機是二聯式的,除了收執聯外,還有存根聯,存根聯必需保存一年(滿足某些
條見可申請縮短為九個月)一些發票用量大的如加油站,倉庫常都堆滿了發票存根聯。
即使超商早已電子化,不需存根聯,但舊式發票依然有不少問題。像是如果收執聯與電腦
上的發票號碼不符(跳號)這是相當麻煩的事情,必需查出是從什麼時候開始跳號,然後填
寫一份修正表給財政部,電子發票本身沒有號碼,有需要時才會由電腦給號碼,不會有跳
號的問題,也不會有零元發票的問題。
而且舊式發票也不好換,要插進那個孔裡還挺需要技巧的,有些不熟的,換個發票就需要
好幾分鐘,遇到人多時,一急,可能會弄的更久;相較之下,感熱紙換過的都知道多簡單
,只要放進去時別放反,放好後稍微一抽,就OK了。
即使對消費者而言,就算沒益處,但也不會有什麼壞處,唯一的問題大概就褪色的這點,
不過這大概也只有台灣人才會在意;在國外,沒有什麼發票對獎,開出來的就是收據,收
到的當下比對沒什麼問題,大多就直接丟了。只有台灣因為要對獎,還得收藏個兩個月,
才會去在意那褪色的問題。不過換個角度想,或許這也是強迫你存進載具裡的一種手段?
至於雙酚A,規定是說必需要用經檢驗,不含雙酚A的感熱紙才能作電子發票。如果你不信
任廠商,那你可以自己拿去化驗看看。
很多人都批評說,這政策根本不環保啊;原本的發票用的好好的,為什麼要改?這是擾民
啊;老人家不會操作機器...等等的。這些在我看來根本不算問題的問題。每次看到都會
讓我覺得根本就打錯點了。我認為最大得問題在
一、政策宣導不力
我6月在新光三越就收到電子發票,但到7-11全面電子話這段期間,根本沒看到什麼政策
宣導,不自己上官網查根本不清楚電子發票到底能幹嘛。
剛剛看到新聞才知道,電子發票已經上路一年了,這一年來,大家有在什麼場合看到電子
發票的宣導嗎?
結果讓一堆民眾在一知半解的情況下心生不滿,雖然對一件事不想花時間去瞭解,直接憑
感覺批評是台灣人常見的毛病。但不提供民眾瞭解的管道的政府,也可說是難辭其咎。
二、官網設計不良
前面就有提到了,官網只有用Windows跟IE才能正常使用。這幾乎是政府網站的通病了。
要說Windows是主流那就算了,瀏覽器現在一堆人早就改用Firefox或Chrome了,至少也
提供能讓它們正常使用的版本吧。
會員卡竟然還沒辦法歸戶,現在也還不能線上捐發票。網站說要分三個階段讓民眾適應,
連網站也要分階段進化嗎?
Q&A也寫的非常官腔,一堆營業人、買受人、B2C之類的用詞。給消費者跟給營業者看的
問題混在一起,消費者要從中找到自己要的資料還得費一番功夫。
三、配套措施也不夠
現在幾乎每家店都有自己的卡,電子化後可能會更嚴重,連原本沒卡的都推出卡了。我
前面也有提到,如果要搞電子發票,至少要像日本,有個通用的交易載具;日本靠一支
手機電子錢包幾乎就能打天下,台灣除了悠遊卡還可以外,根本沒什麼通用的交易載具
,接下來雖然會推個人碼,不過感覺還是不夠。
現在智慧型手機那麼發達,如果能結合NFC功能,消費、查詢功能都結合在手機上,這樣
才算是有個底。不過台灣手機消費金流問題一直搞不定,真的要推出這功能,只怕又一
堆人喊說圖利財團。電子發票就有人這麼喊了,電子發票如果要說有誰獲利最大,大概
就是賣感熱紙列印機的,圖利賣列印機的幹嘛?
明明是好的政策,但事前沒有大力宣導,上路時配套措施也沒完成準備好,又這樣顧慮東
顧慮西的,會搞成這樣還真是不意外。
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我剛去小7說只要明細,店員似乎被嚇到XD不過結完帳他有提醒我</span><span class="push-right">3F 12/29 08:10</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以歸戶</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/herewego/push?y=11" target="_blank">herewego</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:第4點有錯 以往買東西品項太多印不下而產生多張發票時 是</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/29 08:17</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/herewego/push?y=11" target="_blank">herewego</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:"每一張"都可兌獎 不是第1張</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/herewego/push?y=11" target="_blank">herewego</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://goo.gl/4x3bA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/4x3bA</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.etax.nat.gov.tw/wSite/ct?xItem=50246&ctNode=11572" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>財政部稅務入口網-97年度-同筆交易開立多張發票,其中1張發票中獎,得以該張中獎發票兌獎</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/o56432/push?y=11" target="_blank">o56432</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推~整理得很詳盡!!</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/29 08:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來我印象有誤,感謝指正</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/29 08:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/syforever/push?y=11" target="_blank">syforever</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:PUSH!</span><span class="push-right">10F 12/29 09:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aalittle/push?y=11" target="_blank">aalittle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:6.除非有很好的保存環境,不然的確是撐不到2年,我試了一下</span><span class="push-right">11F 12/29 09:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aalittle/push?y=11" target="_blank">aalittle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:把它放在褲子口袋,已經開始褪色了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ru486/push?y=11" target="_blank">ru486</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推好文 但是我還是不喜歡所謂的電子發票 有夠麻煩的!!</span><span class="push-right">13F 12/29 09:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/whoiam/push?y=11" target="_blank">whoiam</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:萊爾富怎會有會員卡?問店員說沒有。但B2C寫有。</span><span class="push-right">14F 12/29 09:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shihyajulia/push?y=11" target="_blank">shihyajulia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推~ 讓我比較懂了</span><span class="push-right">15F 12/29 09:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:萊爾富會員卡應該是指happy go?</span><span class="push-right">16F 12/29 09:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/murmur38/push?y=11" target="_blank">murmur38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:日本已經行之有年的樣子</span><span class="push-right">17F 12/29 10:00</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/murmur38/push?y=11" target="_blank">murmur38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我前年去日本留下來的電子發票(收據?)都變白紙了 XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yellma510/push?y=11" target="_blank">yellma510</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推!我終於瞭解了><</span><span class="push-right">19F 12/29 10:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實我想知道有沒有人瞭解報帳這方面的知識,因為我沒在接觸這</span><span class="push-right">20F 12/29 10:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:個,所以我只能直接copy網站上的回答,就我看說明的理解,當你結</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:帳報統編時,電腦會把該筆消費列入該公司的工商憑證平台,會計</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要報帳時,可以上該平台把發票清單印出來,拿去報帳,不知道是不</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是這樣?</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kkum/push?y=11" target="_blank">kkum</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推,太感謝了!</span><span class="push-right">25F 12/29 10:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kobe333/push?y=11" target="_blank">kobe333</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推~</span><span class="push-right">26F 12/29 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orange21/push?y=11" target="_blank">orange21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://goo.gl/zuAaA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/zuAaA</a> 萊爾富會員卡</span><span class="push-right">27F 12/29 10:36</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啊,我說錯了,HAPPY GO應該是全家的XD</span><span class="push-right">28F 12/29 10:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/c3d/push?y=11" target="_blank">c3d</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我記得好像說是明年才會出@@?</span><span class="push-right">29F 12/29 10:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orange21/push?y=11" target="_blank">orange21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那個相簿應該是財政部電子發票的相關單位開的</span><span class="push-right">30F 12/29 10:53</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orange21/push?y=11" target="_blank">orange21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且萊爾富目前試辦電子發票的門市好像才一間?!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pekosan/push?y=11" target="_blank">pekosan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:專業文 推 載具問題真的很大</span><span class="push-right">32F 12/29 10:59</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pekosan/push?y=11" target="_blank">pekosan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:給廠商知道在他們店內的消費紀錄 個人可以接受</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pekosan/push?y=11" target="_blank">pekosan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為他們也會提供相應的優惠 然後不同廠商資料不會互通</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pekosan/push?y=11" target="_blank">pekosan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:例如A集團的商店 很難拿到我再B集團的消費資料</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pekosan/push?y=11" target="_blank">pekosan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是如果是政府端 等於知道全部統整後的資料</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pekosan/push?y=11" target="_blank">pekosan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以無法接受歸戶的做法 另外 給政府知道安全風險較高</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/newacc/push?y=11" target="_blank">newacc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問這一篇可以借轉個板嗎? 會註明作者~</span><span class="push-right">38F 12/29 11:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayen0422/push?y=11" target="_blank">ayen0422</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~</span><span class="push-right">39F 12/29 11:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vinjacentcob/push?y=11" target="_blank">vinjacentcob</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太棒了 大推 終於對電子發票理出頭緒了 感恩</span><span class="push-right">40F 12/29 11:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:歡迎轉貼</span><span class="push-right">41F 12/29 11:29</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:晚點再加電子發票網站的登入方式流程</span><span class="push-right">42F 12/29 11:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TZUYIC/push?y=11" target="_blank">TZUYIC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:熱感應紙好大張唷,真是龐然大物……</span><span class="push-right">43F 12/29 12:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/whoiam/push?y=11" target="_blank">whoiam</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:全文附作者轉至<a href="http://pilikang.pixnet.net/blog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pilikang.pixnet.net/blog</a>,感恩</span><span class="push-right">44F 12/29 12:19</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://pilikang.pixnet.net/blog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>太一寫手-胡愛晏(WHOIAM) :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::</strong></a>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你連我隱藏的第9點都轉過去啦XDDD</span><span class="push-right">45F 12/29 12:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oath930i/push?y=11" target="_blank">oath930i</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推 好文 我終於瞭解了</span><span class="push-right">46F 12/29 12:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tomtte/push?y=11" target="_blank">tomtte</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我把文章複製到我的FB分享了!!我有註明作者是誰!!感謝分享</span><span class="push-right">47F 12/29 12:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:轉錄時麻煩把黑暗第9點消掉喔XD</span><span class="push-right">48F 12/29 13:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cprincess/push?y=11" target="_blank">cprincess</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推!!!</span><span class="push-right">49F 12/29 13:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nature1131/push?y=11" target="_blank">nature1131</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推好文,基本上還是不愛這種方式,能避就避囉</span><span class="push-right">50F 12/29 13:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nature1131/push?y=11" target="_blank">nature1131</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只要別之後限制到每人須持有戴具,基本上只是發票換格</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nature1131/push?y=11" target="_blank">nature1131</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:式而已,如同pekosan大所說,各集團跟政府端,差很大</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aalittle/push?y=11" target="_blank">aalittle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:成熟期應該要很久吧</span><span class="push-right">53F 12/29 13:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/parislove3/push?y=11" target="_blank">parislove3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:消費行為都被政府掌握 其實還滿....</span><span class="push-right">54F 12/29 14:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ty5ed/push?y=11" target="_blank">ty5ed</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推給集團跟給政府差很大這點 而且這政策連一般人都需要花點</span><span class="push-right">55F 12/29 14:15</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ty5ed/push?y=11" target="_blank">ty5ed</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:時間去認識,對一些習慣用現金消費的長輩來說可能會更模糊,</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ty5ed/push?y=11" target="_blank">ty5ed</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:政府宣導上可以再主動一點</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jimmyself/push?y=11" target="_blank">jimmyself</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔喔喔!讚!被至底了耶 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">58F 12/29 14:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pringle316/push?y=11" target="_blank">pringle316</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">59F 12/29 15:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdsasd/push?y=11" target="_blank">asdsasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!</span><span class="push-right">60F 12/29 15:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fengaujiun/push?y=11" target="_blank">fengaujiun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推 原來icash可以不用領發票 都沒人告訴我QQ 謝謝</span><span class="push-right">61F 12/29 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/inday/push?y=11" target="_blank">inday</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推 我終於懂了XD</span><span class="push-right">62F 12/29 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Obiwan/push?y=11" target="_blank">Obiwan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你比政府認真多了,很棒的宣導說明文章:)</span><span class="push-right">63F 12/29 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ii9/push?y=11" target="_blank">ii9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 ↑+1 調整人是什麼??</span><span class="push-right">64F 12/29 16:35</span></div>
鋼彈SEED的梗,劇中有分一般的自然人跟基因改造過的調整人,當初聽到自然人憑證
一直想到這個XD
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momochan/push?y=11" target="_blank">momochan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝你的解釋~很清楚呢</span><span class="push-right">65F 12/29 16:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neiger/push?y=11" target="_blank">neiger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不論入門或近階都有解說,很實用~</span><span class="push-right">66F 12/29 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WindowsXP/push?y=11" target="_blank">WindowsXP</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 比政府認真多了 配套措施完全不夠 0分</span><span class="push-right">67F 12/29 17:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kdy/push?y=11" target="_blank">kdy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:怎麼沒人質疑感熱紙上的塗層?不是說那是高致癌物嗎?</span><span class="push-right">68F 12/29 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TZUYIC/push?y=11" target="_blank">TZUYIC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在不含雙酚A的熱感應紙才准進口到臺灣</span><span class="push-right">69F 12/29 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keepoo/push?y=11" target="_blank">keepoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:配套都還沒好就硬上 這政府...</span><span class="push-right">70F 12/29 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ifsm/push?y=11" target="_blank">ifsm</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很好懂,大推。</span><span class="push-right">71F 12/29 18:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leejones/push?y=11" target="_blank">leejones</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:萊爾富會員卡應該是要明年才會推出.</span><span class="push-right">72F 12/29 19:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lpnolong/push?y=11" target="_blank">lpnolong</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問 個人手機條碼 現在可以用嘛</span><span class="push-right">73F 12/29 20:13</span></div>
手機條碼明年上半年才推出
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sx366/push?y=11" target="_blank">sx366</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推 我也瞭解了:)</span><span class="push-right">74F 12/29 20:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GRANDIA74/push?y=11" target="_blank">GRANDIA74</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推</span><span class="push-right">75F 12/29 20:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GRANDIA74/push?y=11" target="_blank">GRANDIA74</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:政府感覺是趕鴨子上架 船到橋頭自然直 不直他就裝傻...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/almondchoco/push?y=11" target="_blank">almondchoco</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好清楚 推推</span><span class="push-right">77F 12/29 21:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/camaylily/push?y=11" target="_blank">camaylily</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推!! 講解的好清楚!</span><span class="push-right">78F 12/29 21:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kuso787y/push?y=11" target="_blank">kuso787y</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推</span><span class="push-right">79F 12/29 22:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tristabsb/push?y=11" target="_blank">tristabsb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推,另外小7的紙有改過,我拿打火機輕燒,只會黑一</span><span class="push-right">80F 12/29 23:30</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tristabsb/push?y=11" target="_blank">tristabsb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:點點,不像之前的代收收據,容易變黑</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/scottkevin/push?y=11" target="_blank">scottkevin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我大概半年前也收過鬼屋的電子發票...很像信用卡簽單</span><span class="push-right">82F 12/29 23:57</span></div>
新增第13條
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ccpz/push?y=11" target="_blank">ccpz</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:7-11 的感熱紙都寫不含雙酚A了,要質疑什麼?</span><span class="push-right">83F 12/30 10:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yayogakk/push?y=11" target="_blank">yayogakk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝您的整理分享~推!!!</span><span class="push-right">84F 12/30 12:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mimissakura/push?y=11" target="_blank">mimissakura</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推一下,很多人不知道不明白就瘋狂批評</span><span class="push-right">85F 12/30 13:45</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (12/30 13:59)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mimissakura/push?y=11" target="_blank">mimissakura</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:友人說:強調無紙化但還是會印收據,不也是紙張嗎?</span><span class="push-right">86F 12/30 14:45</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mimissakura/push?y=11" target="_blank">mimissakura</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這該怎樣跟他說明比較好 -.-</span></div>
所以我覺得政府宣導口號有問題,應該是少紙化,而不是無紙化
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mydreamcome/push?y=11" target="_blank">mydreamcome</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:道時候有中獎要怎麼換啊????????????????????????????</span><span class="push-right">88F 12/30 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:消費者可能無法強烈感受到紙張減少</span><span class="push-right">89F 12/30 19:19</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但實際上是有 像0元發票 收據會比較小張</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:舊式很多人應該都收過 誤打打錯的 發票上都有寫更正</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就可能買個3~4樣東西 但有2張發票</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且原本的發票 在換的時候都會跑出一段空白的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:電子發票 感熱紙換一下就好 節省時間+不會跳號</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最後我覺得差最多的是 舊式發票是有期限的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用不完最後 還不是要銷毀 全台要銷毀的加一加 就多恐怖了</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/liafree/push?y=11" target="_blank">liafree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:電子發票 因為是電腦配號 就不用擔心這種問題</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不喜歡悠遊卡ICASH那種要先存錢的卡片 會員卡就還可以</span><span class="push-right">98F 12/30 19:28</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有點擔心中獎了 對方不通知我 或通知不到我 就領不到了...</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感應紙可以回收嗎?</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以每人發一張發票會員卡 結帳要刷 那如果忘記帶咧</span></div>
明年會推出個人條碼,你可以存在手機裡,或是把他印出來貼在隨身攜帶的物品上,
結帳時讓店員刷,就能歸戶了
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以應該不可能完全非紙本化吧</span><span class="push-right">102F 12/30 19:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不開紙本電子發票開收據 還不是一樣有紙</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:紙本電子發票對要開發票的商家才會比較方便 少了一大堆</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:發票存根聯 也不用報廢沒用完的發票紙 對民眾來說真的沒有</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感受到方便的地方</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對個人真的沒有比較方便的感覺</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:應該宣導紙本電子發票可以節省到的地方 如以前要報廢發票</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在不用之類的 不然一般人拿到紙本電子發票都覺得還不是</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跟原本的發票一樣都是紙 多此一舉幹麼改 財政部吃飽沒事幹</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:之類的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neiger/push?y=11" target="_blank">neiger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上,電子發票不是萬能,它只是用虛擬形式存在。</span><span class="push-right">112F 12/30 20:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neiger/push?y=11" target="_blank">neiger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要怎麼處理都還是要持有人本身主動進行。</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neiger/push?y=11" target="_blank">neiger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我個人認為收據是不得不的東西,那是保護消費者的東西。</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neiger/push?y=11" target="_blank">neiger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在因為-4全面使用電子發票,使得電子發票能見度爆升。</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neiger/push?y=11" target="_blank">neiger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這是好事,但也暴露出載具登錄的問題。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有點想問不拿發票直接用載具 那要怎麼確定商家有開發票</span><span class="push-right">117F 12/30 20:49</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且要隔一天才能上網查 之前都宣導要索取發票 現在沒有了</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要怎麼確認</span></div>
如果是能歸戶的卡,到時直接上官網查看有沒有上傳就行
如果是不能歸戶的卡,就必需使用該商店提供的平台查詢,這是比較麻煩的
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hoch/push?y=11" target="_blank">hoch</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推。政府應該請你去宣導的。另外那個電子發票平台真是</span><span class="push-right">120F 12/30 22:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hoch/push?y=11" target="_blank">hoch</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爛透了。和樓主講的一樣,沒有一張會員卡和信用卡可以歸戶。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/uzumaki/push?y=11" target="_blank">uzumaki</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推好文!</span><span class="push-right">122F 12/31 01:25</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (12/31 06:46)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:把個人心得整理了一下</span><span class="push-right">123F 12/31 06:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pqsister/push?y=11" target="_blank">pqsister</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:認真推^O^ 寫得比小7的小說明書清楚很多呢!</span><span class="push-right">124F 12/31 23:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/barbarafrog/push?y=11" target="_blank">barbarafrog</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文推~~</span><span class="push-right">125F 01/01 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/allen771115/push?y=11" target="_blank">allen771115</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請清楚推!</span><span class="push-right">126F 01/01 03:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a87992772/push?y=11" target="_blank">a87992772</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯好文推</span><span class="push-right">127F 01/02 00:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vivian121212/push?y=11" target="_blank">vivian121212</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可是我的自然人憑證已經過期了(已經延展過了)</span><span class="push-right">128F 01/02 01:16</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vivian121212/push?y=11" target="_blank">vivian121212</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那這樣子我還要花275去換一張新卡耶... 哀哀</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lockall/push?y=11" target="_blank">lockall</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問我有用ICASH可是還是有拿到電子發票收執聯,請問這張</span><span class="push-right">130F 01/02 11:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lockall/push?y=11" target="_blank">lockall</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是收據還是發票,如果事發票不就代表我的ICASH沒有存入統</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lockall/push?y=11" target="_blank">lockall</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一發票了嗎??? Q___Q (還是紙本電子發票指的可以是收據和</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lockall/push?y=11" target="_blank">lockall</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:發票???)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RunDLL32/push?y=11" target="_blank">RunDLL32</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:發票,對,紙本就是像改版前的紙本 <a href="http://bit.ly/tCMuAY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/tCMuAY</a></span><span class="push-right">134F 01/02 11:57</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RunDLL32/push?y=11" target="_blank">RunDLL32</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://bit.ly/uc6a9W" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/uc6a9W</a></span><span class="push-right">135F 01/02 11:58</span></div>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1200" data-ori_h="1600" style="width:1200px;height:1600px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JJJXgkGvkyo/TvCGuza_ENI/AAAAAAAADVc/Ai3xf1kqFlE/w1200/20111220168.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上面寫發票的就是發票 寫收據的就是收據啊</span><span class="push-right">136F 01/02 12:38</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:錯了 收據寫的是交易明細 不過原PO文中都有圖了啊...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:收據的話是寫交易明細</span><span class="push-right">138F 01/02 12:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跟自然人憑證好像沒有關係耶 剛看了一則新聞是說</span><span class="push-right">139F 01/02 12:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以上平台申請條碼 條碼可以印下來做為存電子發票的載具</span></div>
那個就是我文章裡提到的個人手機碼,你說的跟自然人憑證沒有關係是指?
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (01/02 12:48)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過還是擔心會員卡那種會通知不到我就領不到了</span><span class="push-right">141F 01/02 12:49</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為有人提到說要去換自然人憑證</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:剛看了一下網站 有的會員卡只會用E-MAIL通知而已</span></div>
我第8點就是說這個,記名制會員卡目前是由商家自己通知你,之後會不會開放歸戶就不知
道了。自然人憑證如果有要歸戶,還是需要的,個人碼申請辦法目前還不是完全確定,但我
想十之八九申請時還是需要用到,畢竟要跟個人身份作聯結
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且中獎有的還要再回到門市或分店列印出來</span><span class="push-right">144F 01/02 12:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luke90702/push?y=11" target="_blank">luke90702</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以轉載到臉書嗎?這麼好的資訊要分享給大家!!!</span><span class="push-right">145F 01/02 12:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就是領個獎還要跑去那個店裡印出來再去郵局領 很麻煩</span><span class="push-right">146F 01/02 12:57</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得條碼申請應該不需要用到自然人憑證耶</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (01/02 12:58)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:歡迎轉載,我在文章底部加了PTT web連結</span><span class="push-right">148F 01/02 12:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:應該是註冊個人資料申請條碼號碼和密碼 就可以了</span><span class="push-right">149F 01/02 12:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那張圖第一個步驟就是登入官方平台,而進入官方平台就需要憑證</span><span class="push-right">150F 01/02 13:00</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你要登入管理歸戶的卡跟個資也是需要先用憑證</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是喔 本來想說開放之後要來申請一下的 看來不可能了</span><span class="push-right">152F 01/02 13:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我沒有自然人憑證說 而且自然人憑證還要錢</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是覺得辦一張憑證無所謂,報稅時也用的到啊</span><span class="push-right">154F 01/02 13:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且自然人憑證好像隔幾年還要再繳一次錢 不是永久的</span><span class="push-right">155F 01/02 13:05</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本來有點期待可以註冊用用看 看來還是乖乖領紙本電子發票</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/horusli/push?y=11" target="_blank">horusli</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:自然人憑證工本費275元 效期五年,可展延三年共使用八年</span><span class="push-right">157F 01/02 13:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為什麼一定要用自然人憑證才能註冊 只是當做一個收集發票</span><span class="push-right">158F 01/02 13:43</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:的工具以減少無紙化 只要做好安全機制不被別人盜用就OK啦</span></div>
新增第14條
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為這個平台牽扯到獎金跟個資的問題,如果那天你登入,發現你</span><span class="push-right">160F 01/02 13:57</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上個月中了1千,但帳戶卻被改成不認識的人的,你能接受嗎</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:同樣,消費紀錄被政府紀錄已經讓一些人不能接受,如果被犯罪集</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:團登入你的帳戶,看你的交易紀錄,豈不更嚴重</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pdself/push?y=11" target="_blank">pdself</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問文中所謂的申請手機條碼是否必須是智慧型手機?</span><span class="push-right">164F 01/02 14:04</span></div>
只要能存條碼圖檔的手機就行,也不一定要手機,你把條碼印出來貼在鑰匙圈上也行
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (01/02 14:07)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pdself/push?y=11" target="_blank">pdself</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那對獎時段會有一堆拿icash(無自然人憑證)的民眾在ibon排隊</span><span class="push-right">165F 01/02 14:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pdself/push?y=11" target="_blank">pdself</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:使用查詢的景象.....?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:開獎到不能換有好幾個月,也沒必要急著去對啊</span><span class="push-right">167F 01/02 14:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pdself/push?y=11" target="_blank">pdself</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嗯 只是習慣上傳統發票大家有在對的應該時間到就會趕緊對了</span><span class="push-right">168F 01/02 14:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:icash有沒有辦法直接在網路查詢餘額的畫面對發票就好</span><span class="push-right">169F 01/02 14:17</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有中再去i-bon印就好了 這樣在家有讀卡機就可以對</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pdself/push?y=11" target="_blank">pdself</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那就變成各家載具業者就要像銀行一樣建立網路平台了?</span><span class="push-right">171F 01/02 14:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只要可以顯示發票號碼就可以了 然後搜尋本期中獎號碼</span><span class="push-right">172F 01/02 14:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knowing/push?y=11" target="_blank">knowing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有沒有在上面</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamvegetable/push?y=11" target="_blank">iamvegetable</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">174F 01/02 14:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luke90702/push?y=11" target="_blank">luke90702</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文章值得一推再推</span><span class="push-right">175F 01/02 16:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/x90050/push?y=11" target="_blank">x90050</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想請教,如果我使用載具消費,那如果有印出電子發票</span><span class="push-right">176F 01/03 05:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/x90050/push?y=11" target="_blank">x90050</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我手上持有紙本發票,那會有自動對獎嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只要有發票號碼就要自行對獎</span><span class="push-right">178F 01/03 05:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YukiPhoenix/push?y=11" target="_blank">YukiPhoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問 我能以圖片的形式保存發票嗎(例如拍照保存)</span><span class="push-right">179F 01/03 12:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要對獎還是得拿實體發票,拍照沒用</span><span class="push-right">180F 01/03 13:14</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ^^兌</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yewa45/push?y=11" target="_blank">yewa45</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!</span><span class="push-right">182F 01/03 14:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YukiPhoenix/push?y=11" target="_blank">YukiPhoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我的意思是 拍照記錄隨機碼和發票號碼 如有遺失或損</span><span class="push-right">183F 01/03 16:38</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YukiPhoenix/push?y=11" target="_blank">YukiPhoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:毀 再根據圖片建檔的資料去原店家補印一張這樣行嗎?</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YukiPhoenix/push?y=11" target="_blank">YukiPhoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:等等 我誤會內文意思 上面推文請忽略...</span></div>
我倒覺得這問題不錯。
遺失的話應該就沒救了,損毀的話,要看損毀到什麼程度,如果字都完全無法辨識,那也應該
不行,店家開證明,他們也是有責任的。
雖然如果照片裡有隨機碼、序號,應該能夠證明,但拿一張完全無法辨識的發票去說,這就
是那張發票,這也算是考驗店家的心臟吧。畢竟會有偽造發票的風險,發票本身應該至少還
是要有可辨識的資料,才能夠開證明
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (01/03 16:51)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YukiPhoenix/push?y=11" target="_blank">YukiPhoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會想到這問題是因為電子發票模糊好像還有救(查資料庫)</span><span class="push-right">186F 01/03 17:07</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YukiPhoenix/push?y=11" target="_blank">YukiPhoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是舊的紙本就是一翻兩瞪眼糊掉不能辨識就是無法兌獎</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實舊紙本發票也能救,只是對沒電子化的商店來說,他要查發票</span><span class="push-right">188F 01/03 17:21</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:非常麻煩,這我在14點就有提到了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luckysorrel/push?y=11" target="_blank">luckysorrel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果分別在-4跟全聯等其他開立電子發票的店家消費,</span><span class="push-right">190F 01/05 01:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luckysorrel/push?y=11" target="_blank">luckysorrel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是否要分別歸戶,分別設定?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在官網就能一次歸戶完畢,不過我記得官網現在還沒全聯卡能選</span><span class="push-right">192F 01/05 12:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cp296633/push?y=11" target="_blank">cp296633</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺沒整合好,都上網登錄載具到自然人憑證了 去小7還要多</span><span class="push-right">193F 01/08 00:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cp296633/push?y=11" target="_blank">cp296633</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講一句不開發票才會存入載具,不能做到後端資料庫連線讓有</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cp296633/push?y=11" target="_blank">cp296633</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:作歸戶的載具"自動"不開發票嗎...結帳都要說明對消費者和</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cp296633/push?y=11" target="_blank">cp296633</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:店員都是一種麻煩</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/misa0519/push?y=11" target="_blank">misa0519</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:專業給你推!</span><span class="push-right">197F 01/10 04:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ppq101/push?y=11" target="_blank">ppq101</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來是這樣 之前覺得電子發票很麻煩原來是我不瞭解 感謝</span><span class="push-right">198F 01/11 11:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aquavocal/push?y=11" target="_blank">aquavocal</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很用心仔細的文章 我覺得明天去買唉呦卡 :)</span><span class="push-right">199F 01/14 02:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:新增全聯卡歸戶方法,在第13條下方</span><span class="push-right">200F 01/14 22:00</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (01/14 22:04)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本文實在是太棒了!全文含作者名稱轉載至</span><span class="push-right">201F 01/16 21:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="https://disp.cc/b/Howar31" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://disp.cc/b/Howar31</a> 感謝!</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://disp.cc/b/Howar31" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>看板《Howar31》[歐人] Howar31的Disp個人板! - Disp BBS</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="120" data-ori_h="120" style="width:120px;height:120px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.disp.cc/disp/DispBBS120.png" alt="[圖]" /></div>Disp BBS是一個用網頁介面來模擬傳統BBS操作的討論區網站,界面簡單、反應快速、可鍵盤操作,並提供將BBS文章轉為網頁以方便分享的服務。 ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝 已轉至 <a href="https://disp.cc/b/Howar31#191-2Swr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://disp.cc/b/Howar31#191-2Swr</a></span><span class="push-right">203F 01/16 21:46</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://disp.cc/b/Howar31#191-2Swr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>看板《Howar31》[歐人] Howar31的Disp個人板! - Disp BBS</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="120" data-ori_h="120" style="width:120px;height:120px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.disp.cc/disp/DispBBS120.png" alt="[圖]" /></div>Disp BBS是一個用網頁介面來模擬傳統BBS操作的討論區網站,界面簡單、反應快速、可鍵盤操作,並提供將BBS文章轉為網頁以方便分享的服務。 ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/danic/push?y=11" target="_blank">danic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚</span><span class="push-right">204F 01/20 03:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:新增第15條,另外舊的條目也有些修改,修改的部份以亮綠色區分</span><span class="push-right">205F 01/21 01:43</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kiuo 來自: 114.33.226.208 (01/26 10:14)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/steven1002/push?y=11" target="_blank">steven1002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:OK和摩斯漢堡目前沒有載具可以記錄</span><span class="push-right">206F 01/27 01:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Borey/push?y=11" target="_blank">Borey</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很想辦歸戶 不過自然人憑證 要錢 又有時效 算了..</span><span class="push-right">207F 01/27 13:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/krista520/push?y=11" target="_blank">krista520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問一下 如果是玉山悠遊聯名卡這種電子錢包 在超商結帳</span><span class="push-right">208F 01/28 13:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/krista520/push?y=11" target="_blank">krista520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就直接算是記名的載具嗎? 還要不要辦歸戶什麼的@@</span></div>
悠遊聯名卡應該視同悠遊卡,不記名,不歸戶的話要去IBON查詢
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hit1205/push?y=11" target="_blank">hit1205</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:@Borey: 自然人憑證要275元,展期後可以用八年</span><span class="push-right">210F 01/31 17:21</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hit1205/push?y=11" target="_blank">hit1205</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看你覺得劃不划算囉 XD (效期五年+展期三年)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/smartfen/push?y=11" target="_blank">smartfen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有中獎的去郵局換了之後可以分享一下流程嗎?我沒中..</span><span class="push-right">212F 02/02 12:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kkkk2921/push?y=11" target="_blank">kkkk2921</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我都用歸戶的 但超多店員聽不懂 以為不要發票把它揉掉..</span><span class="push-right">213F 02/20 05:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dn890221/push?y=11" target="_blank">dn890221</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我可以用現金結帳然後發票存載具嗎?</span><span class="push-right">214F 02/21 03:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不行,一定要用ICASH支付</span><span class="push-right">215F 02/21 04:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lorfeo/push?y=11" target="_blank">lorfeo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:兌獎只拿發票的部分(剪掉明細),可以兌獎嗎0.0?</span><span class="push-right">216F 02/26 01:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Borey/push?y=11" target="_blank">Borey</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以..明細部分 只要有號碼金額需線以上收執部分即可</span><span class="push-right">217F 02/26 12:16</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Borey/push?y=11" target="_blank">Borey</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:明細部分可以去除 剪掉</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nickylee/push?y=11" target="_blank">nickylee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:手機條碼 今天 3/1 開放申請了...</span><span class="push-right">219F 03/01 21:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:申請完了,也歸戶好了,不過現在能用的商品都是平常不會去的...</span><span class="push-right">220F 03/02 11:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 店</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:晚點來去順發看有沒有什麼能買,再來寫個教學</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/barttien/push?y=11" target="_blank">barttien</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:剛剛也去申請手機條碼了,看來電子發票又邁進一大步XDD..</span><span class="push-right">223F 03/02 20:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/smallxsmall/push?y=11" target="_blank">smallxsmall</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用心推</span><span class="push-right">224F 03/10 15:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/frankychen/push?y=11" target="_blank">frankychen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在便利商店都還沒加入手機條碼?</span><span class="push-right">225F 03/11 15:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">kiuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:目前只有順發3C跟大潤發,還有一家服飾店試辦</span><span class="push-right">226F 03/13 01:08</span></div>
修改第13條線上捐贈的說明
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/casko/push?y=11" target="_blank">casko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:icash沒有歸戶不用到ibon查 有讀卡機到財政部網頁也可以查</span><span class="push-right">227F 03/31 18:36</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/casko/push?y=11" target="_blank">casko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6qwaeg2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6qwaeg2</a></span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/casko/push?y=11" target="_blank">casko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這樣看來二代悠遊卡有晶片 正式上路後應該也可以上網用</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/casko/push?y=11" target="_blank">casko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讀卡機查詢了 目前手上的試用版二代悠遊卡 可以用讀卡機到</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/casko/push?y=11" target="_blank">casko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:悠遊卡公司網站查詢消費使用紀錄 還蠻方便的</span></div>
修改說明,4.6起7-11,OK開放電子發票兌換等值商品
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Re: [問題] 月亮?
http://disp.cc/b/191-2TE3
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Howar31 Ou (howar31) on about.me
我是歐人,來自台灣的網路使用者,Howar31,專長是網頁設計、網頁程式、C和C++等,興趣是3D建模與繪圖。
關於更多我的詳細資訊,可以參考我的Retaggr Profile或Google Profile以及下面的連結:D
Hello, I am Howar31, an Internet user from Ta Howar31 Ou (howar31) on about.me
我是歐人,來自台灣的網路使用者,Howar31,專長是網頁設計、網頁程式、C和C++等,興趣是3D建模與繪圖。
關於更多我的詳細資訊,可以參考我的Retaggr Profile或Google Profile以及下面的連結:D
Hello, I am Howar31, an Internet user from Ta
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我這邊的完全版寫的是
亞姆:咦?悟空你的尾巴呢
悟空:神把它拿掉了 我也不太清楚,他說想把消失的月亮恢復。如果我長尾巴太麻煩了
亞姆:哦
克林:也可以這麼說...
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DragonBall </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> forgot75421 (伏加特)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問題] 月亮?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Jan 2 22:41:33 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《howar31 (影紫‧歐人)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 標題: [問題] 月亮?</span>
<span class="quote">: 時間: Sat Dec 31 17:30:07 2011</span>
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<span class="quote">: 最近在看七龍珠系列 無印已經追完了 正在看七龍珠Z</span>
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<span class="quote">: 才剛開始看就碰到一個問題 想請教一下</span>
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<span class="quote">: 當初第一次天下第一武道會(21屆)時 悟空看到滿月變身</span>
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<span class="quote">: 那時候龜仙人不是把月亮打爆了嗎?</span>
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<span class="quote">: 後來第二次武道會那個人狼還因此要報仇</span>
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<span class="quote">: 可是為什麼後來七龍珠Z時 比克把悟飯丟到荒野求生</span>
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<span class="quote">: 那時候怎麼又有月亮?悟飯又變身了?然後比克一指把月亮打爆...</span>
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<span class="quote">: 之前武道會龜仙人不是還說打爆了可以安心 悟空不會再變身嗎?</span>
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<span class="quote">: 究竟後來那月亮哪來的orz</span>
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<span class="quote">: About me? Please visit: 關於我?我的網路電子名片</span>
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關於更多我的詳細資訊,可以參考我的Retaggr Profile或Google Profile以及下面的連結:D
Hello, I am Howar31, an Internet user from Ta</div></div> <div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://about.me/howar31" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Howar31 Ou (howar31) on about.me</strong></a>
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關於更多我的詳細資訊,可以參考我的Retaggr Profile或Google Profile以及下面的連結:D
Hello, I am Howar31, an Internet user from Ta</div></div> </div>
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<span class="quote">: 推 Zero0910 :你沒看仔細喔 XD 悟空在神那邊修練時 神把月亮恢復了 12/31 17:32</span>
<span class="quote">: → howar31 :真假?!是剛到天神那邊就有說嗎?我真的沒印象orz 12/31 17:34</span>
<span class="quote">: → howar31 :我只記得三年後悟空說當初修煉時天神把尾巴拔掉了:/ 12/31 17:35</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 Zero0910 :就那時說的 悟空有補一句說「神想把消失的月亮恢復」 12/31 17:35</span>
<span class="quote">: 剛剛跑回去看了一下 三年後相會是133集</span>
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<span class="quote">: 20:16的時候飲茶問悟空為什麼尾巴不見了</span>
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<span class="quote">: 悟空回答是天神幫他拿掉了 天神認為悟空要參加天下第一武道會的話尾巴會變成弱點</span>
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<span class="quote">: 然後悟空就感應到旁邊的比克二世 接下來一陣旁白後本話就結束了</span>
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<span class="quote">: 好像沒有補月亮這句耶? :/</span>
<span class="quote">: ※ 編輯: howar31 來自: 114.37.74.39 (12/31 17:56)</span>
<span class="quote">: → howar31 :是漫畫跟動畫不一樣嗎?我是看動畫的說:/ 12/31 17:57</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 Zero0910 :動畫也有啊 21分13秒處有說 =ω= 12/31 18:08</span>
<span class="quote">: → Zero0910 :啊 時間點可能不一樣 反正就飲茶問悟空尾巴那段 XD 12/31 18:09</span>
<span class="quote">: → howar31 :真 的 假 的 啊 ...orz 難道我看到閹割版嗎?囧 12/31 18:37</span>
<span class="quote">: 剛剛又看了一遍 還是沒看到囧 我把我看到對話打上來</span>
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我這邊的完全版寫的是
亞姆:咦?悟空你的尾巴呢
悟空:神把它拿掉了 我也不太清楚,他說想把消失的月亮恢復。如果我長尾巴太麻煩了
亞姆:哦
克林:也可以這麼說...
完全版12集p31
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<span class="quote">: 克林拿出自己準備的龜仙流道服炫耀 結果飲茶和悟空也有準備</span>
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<span class="quote">: 克林: 「怎麼樣?我早就料到這一次武天老師一定不會願意給我龜仙流的道服,所以我就</span>
<span class="quote">: 自己去道服店做了一件。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 飲茶: 「我們想的事情都是一樣的。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 悟空: 「我也是。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 克林: 「什麼?我還以為可以大出風頭。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 飲茶笑了笑 突然跑道悟空身後</span>
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<span class="quote">: 飲茶: 「悟空,你的尾巴呢?」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 悟空: 「天神已經幫我拿掉了,他好像是說...如果我要參加第一武道會的話,尾巴將會</span>
<span class="quote">: 成為我的弱點跟阻礙。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 克林: 「這麼說好像還挺有道理的。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 悟空突然感應到一陣強氣 往旁邊看過去</span>
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<span class="quote">: 飲茶: 「怎麼了,悟空?」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 克林: 「你怎麼了?」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 悟空、克林、飲茶三人都看到旁邊的比克二世</span>
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<span class="quote">: 飲茶: 「什麼?那個傢伙冰冷無情的眼神」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 克林: 「你認識他嗎,悟空?」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 另一旁的天津飯跟餃子也同時注意到了比克二世</span>
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<span class="quote">: 天津飯: 「他...那個傢伙怎麼會呢?」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 悟空心想: 「他果然來了,比克大魔王。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 旁白: 「終於天下第一武道會的預賽即將要展開了,比克大魔王第二代的子嗣也在悟空</span>
<span class="quote">: 面前現身了,接下來,天下第一武道會即將展開對決了。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 本話結束(片尾曲)</span>
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<span class="quote">: 以上是19:50開始到本話結束的詳細劇情對話 我這版本真的沒有說月亮耶XDDD</span>
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<span class="quote">: 呃感覺我有點吹毛求疵 不過我真的想看到底啥時說了月亮:/</span>
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<span class="quote">: 我在猜想會不會是翻譯問題漏了那句?因為我這版有時候翻譯的確有點漏...</span>
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<span class="quote">: 我雖然不懂日文 但是簡單對話還是聽得懂 有時候字幕真的發現有少</span>
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<span class="quote">: 我是看風行網上的版本 ( 艸) <a href="http://funshion.com/subject/22669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://funshion.com/subject/22669/</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://funshion.com/subject/22669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>七龙珠 - 全集下载 - 漫画在线观看 - 风行</strong></a>
七龙珠在线观看,七龙珠下载,七龙珠的剧情介绍,电影图片,海报,剧照,花絮,影评</div></div> </div>
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<span class="quote">: 感謝各位的指教<(_ _)></span>
<span class="quote">: ※ 編輯: howar31 來自: 114.37.74.39 (12/31 18:54)</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 coskid :作者忘記吧 BUG 或者七龍珠的世界 月亮跟尾巴一樣 12/31 22:02</span>
<span class="quote">: → coskid :消失以後會再生!! 12/31 22:02</span>
<span class="quote">: → afflect :堂堂一個世界的神 弄個月亮一定要告訴你嗎? 你他媽的 12/31 22:46</span>
<span class="quote">: → afflect :你轟炸月亮的時候有問過神嗎 12/31 22:47</span>
<span class="quote">: → afflect :老比克轟掉神龍之後 也只是波波拿膠水把神龍雕像黏 12/31 22:51</span>
<span class="quote">: → afflect :一黏而已 再用黏土捏一個月亮沒什麼大不了的 12/31 22:51</span>
<span class="quote">: → howar31 :樓上好兇:/ 01/01 00:24</span>
<span class="quote">: → DivineLand :我要成為新世界的神! 01/01 00:40</span>
<span class="quote">: → DivineLand :你他媽的你轟炸月亮的時候有問過神嗎 推這句XD 01/01 00:41</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 zhao1985 :你他媽的你轟炸月亮的時候有問過神嗎XD 01/01 00:44</span>
<span class="quote">: → afflect :還好啦 新年快樂 01/01 02:07</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 owenkuo :推文有笑有推 01/01 04:36</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 KillAllMen :推文口氣兇了點 但還真他媽有道理XD 01/01 07:03</span>
<span class="quote">: → GriefSeed :a大是神嗎?看你做月亮做的很火大 XDD 01/01 20:31</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 rollr :我也有印象是這一段,但你的詞兒似乎跟我不太同。 01/01 22:10</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 lovewubai :推做月亮做的很火大XDD 01/02 12:20</span>
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Zero0910
Re: [問題] 月亮?
http://disp.cc/b/191-2TE1
2012-01-01T01:34:42+08:00
2012-01-05T19:23:10+08:00
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七龙珠 - 全集下载 - 漫画在线观看 - 风行
七龙珠在线观看,七龙珠下载,七龙珠的剧情介绍,电影图片,海报,剧照,花絮,影评
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我截出講到月亮的片段了
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQsy83AXnc
moon - YouTube
這段日文是
「よくわかっねけど、消えてちまった月を元に戻してから、オラに尻尾..(下略)」
應該是翻譯錯誤吧
我手上的字幕檔也跟你打的一樣 XD ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DragonBall </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Zero0910 (みくに最高≧▽≦)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問題] 月亮?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Jan 1 01:34:42 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="quote">: 推 Zero0910 :動畫也有啊 21分13秒處有說 =ω= 12/31 18:08</span>
<span class="quote">: → Zero0910 :啊 時間點可能不一樣 反正就飲茶問悟空尾巴那段 XD 12/31 18:09</span>
<span class="quote">: → howar31 :真 的 假 的 啊 ...orz 難道我看到閹割版嗎?囧 12/31 18:37</span>
<span class="quote">: 剛剛又看了一遍 還是沒看到囧 我把我看到對話打上來</span>
<span class="quote">: 飲茶: 「悟空,你的尾巴呢?」</span>
<span class="quote">: 悟空: 「天神已經幫我拿掉了,他好像是說...如果我要參加第一武道會的話,尾巴將會</span>
<span class="quote">: 成為我的弱點跟阻礙。」</span>
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<span class="quote">: 我雖然不懂日文 但是簡單對話還是聽得懂 有時候字幕真的發現有少</span>
:
<span class="quote">: 我是看風行網上的版本 ( 艸) <a href="http://funshion.com/subject/22669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://funshion.com/subject/22669/</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://funshion.com/subject/22669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>七龙珠 - 全集下载 - 漫画在线观看 - 风行</strong></a>
七龙珠在线观看,七龙珠下载,七龙珠的剧情介绍,电影图片,海报,剧照,花絮,影评</div></div> </div>
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<span class="quote">: 感謝各位的指教<(_ _)></span>
我截出講到月亮的片段了
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQsy83AXnc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQsy83AXnc</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQsy83AXnc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>moon - YouTube</strong></a></div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/RGQsy83AXnc?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/RGQsy83AXnc/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
這段日文是
「よくわかっねけど、消えてちまった月を元に戻してから、オラに尻尾..(下略)」
應該是翻譯錯誤吧
我手上的字幕檔也跟你打的一樣 XD
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howar31
[問題] 月亮?
http://disp.cc/b/191-2TE2
2011-12-31T17:30:07+08:00
2012-01-05T19:23:18+08:00
最近在看七龍珠系列 無印已經追完了 正在看七龍珠Z
才剛開始看就碰到一個問題 想請教一下
當初第一次天下第一武道會(21屆)時 悟空看到滿月變身
那時候龜仙人不是把月亮打爆了嗎?
後來第二次武道會那個人狼還因此要報仇
可是為什麼後來七龍珠Z時 比克把悟飯丟到荒野求生
那時候怎麼又有月亮?悟飯又變身了?然後比克一指把月亮打爆...
之前武道會龜仙人不是還說打爆了可以安心 悟空不會再變身嗎?
究竟後來那月亮哪來的orz ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DragonBall </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (影紫‧歐人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問題] 月亮?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sat Dec 31 17:30:07 2011</div><hr color="#008080" />
最近在看七龍珠系列 無印已經追完了 正在看七龍珠Z
才剛開始看就碰到一個問題 想請教一下
當初第一次天下第一武道會(21屆)時 悟空看到滿月變身
那時候龜仙人不是把月亮打爆了嗎?
後來第二次武道會那個人狼還因此要報仇
可是為什麼後來七龍珠Z時 比克把悟飯丟到荒野求生
<div class="combine-lines">那時候怎麼又有月亮?悟飯又變身了?然後比克一指把月亮打爆...
之前武道會龜仙人不是還說打爆了可以安心 悟空不會再變身嗎?
究竟後來那月亮哪來的orz</div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Zero0910/push?y=11" target="_blank">Zero0910</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你沒看仔細喔 XD 悟空在神那邊修練時 神把月亮恢復了</span><span class="push-right">1F 12/31 17:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真假?!是剛到天神那邊就有說嗎?我真的沒印象orz</span><span class="push-right">2F 12/31 17:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我只記得三年後悟空說當初修煉時天神把尾巴拔掉了:/</span></div>
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剛剛跑回去看了一下 三年後相會是133集
20:16的時候飲茶問悟空為什麼尾巴不見了
悟空回答是天神幫他拿掉了 天神認為悟空要參加天下第一武道會的話尾巴會變成弱點
然後悟空就感應到旁邊的比克二世 接下來一陣旁白後本話就結束了
好像沒有補月亮這句耶? :/
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是漫畫跟動畫不一樣嗎?我是看動畫的說:/</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/31 17:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Zero0910/push?y=11" target="_blank">Zero0910</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:動畫也有啊 21分13秒處有說 =ω=</span><span class="push-right">6F 12/31 18:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Zero0910/push?y=11" target="_blank">Zero0910</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啊 時間點可能不一樣 反正就飲茶問悟空尾巴那段 XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真 的 假 的 啊 ...orz 難道我看到閹割版嗎?囧</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/31 18:37</span></div>
剛剛又看了一遍 還是沒看到囧 我把我看到對話打上來
==
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">克林拿出自己準備的龜仙流道服炫耀 結果飲茶和悟空也有準備</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">克林: 「怎麼樣?我早就料到這一次武天老師一定不會願意給我龜仙流的道服,所以我就</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000"> 自己去道服店做了一件。」</span></span></div>
</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">飲茶: 「我們想的事情都是一樣的。」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">悟空: 「我也是。」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">克林: 「什麼?我還以為可以大出風頭。」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">飲茶笑了笑 突然跑道悟空身後</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">飲茶: 「悟空,你的尾巴呢?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">悟空: 「天神已經幫我拿掉了,他好像是說...如果我要參加第一武道會的話,尾巴將會</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000"> 成為我的弱點跟阻礙。」</span></span></div>
</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">克林: 「這麼說好像還挺有道理的。」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">悟空突然感應到一陣強氣 往旁邊看過去</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">飲茶: 「怎麼了,悟空?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">克林: 「你怎麼了?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">悟空、克林、飲茶三人都看到旁邊的比克二世</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">飲茶: 「什麼?那個傢伙冰冷無情的眼神」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">克林: 「你認識他嗎,悟空?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">另一旁的天津飯跟餃子也同時注意到了比克二世</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">天津飯: 「他...那個傢伙怎麼會呢?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">悟空心想: 「他果然來了,比克大魔王。」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000">旁白: 「終於天下第一武道會的預賽即將要展開了,比克大魔王第二代的子嗣也在悟空</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000"> 面前現身了,接下來,天下第一武道會即將展開對決了。」</span></span></div>
</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">本話結束(片尾曲)</span></span></div>
==
以上是19:50開始到本話結束的詳細劇情對話 我這版本真的沒有說月亮耶XDDD
呃感覺我有點吹毛求疵 不過我真的想看到底啥時說了月亮:/
我在猜想會不會是翻譯問題漏了那句?因為我這版有時候翻譯的確有點漏...
我雖然不懂日文 但是簡單對話還是聽得懂 有時候字幕真的發現有少
我是看風行網上的版本 ( 艸) <a href="http://funshion.com/subject/22669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://funshion.com/subject/22669/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://funshion.com/subject/22669/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>七龙珠 - 全集下载 - 漫画在线观看 - 风行</strong></a>
七龙珠在线观看,七龙珠下载,七龙珠的剧情介绍,电影图片,海报,剧照,花絮,影评</div></div> </div>
感謝各位的指教<(_ _)>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coskid/push?y=11" target="_blank">coskid</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:作者忘記吧 BUG 或者七龍珠的世界 月亮跟尾巴一樣</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/31 22:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coskid/push?y=11" target="_blank">coskid</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:消失以後會再生!!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afflect/push?y=11" target="_blank">afflect</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:堂堂一個世界的神 弄個月亮一定要告訴你嗎? 你他媽的</span><span class="push-right">11F 12/31 22:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afflect/push?y=11" target="_blank">afflect</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你轟炸月亮的時候有問過神嗎</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afflect/push?y=11" target="_blank">afflect</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老比克轟掉神龍之後 也只是波波拿膠水把神龍雕像黏</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afflect/push?y=11" target="_blank">afflect</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一黏而已 再用黏土捏一個月亮沒什麼大不了的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上好兇:/</span><span class="push-right">15F 01/01 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DivineLand/push?y=11" target="_blank">DivineLand</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我要成為新世界的神!</span><span class="push-right">16F 01/01 00:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DivineLand/push?y=11" target="_blank">DivineLand</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你他媽的你轟炸月亮的時候有問過神嗎 推這句XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zhao1985/push?y=11" target="_blank">zhao1985</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你他媽的你轟炸月亮的時候有問過神嗎XD</span><span class="push-right">18F 01/01 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afflect/push?y=11" target="_blank">afflect</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還好啦 新年快樂</span><span class="push-right">19F 01/01 02:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/owenkuo/push?y=11" target="_blank">owenkuo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文有笑有推</span><span class="push-right">20F 01/01 04:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KillAllMen/push?y=11" target="_blank">KillAllMen</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文口氣兇了點 但還真他媽有道理XD</span><span class="push-right">21F 01/01 07:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GriefSeed/push?y=11" target="_blank">GriefSeed</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:a大是神嗎?看你做月亮做的很火大 XDD</span><span class="push-right">22F 01/01 20:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rollr/push?y=11" target="_blank">rollr</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也有印象是這一段,但你的詞兒似乎跟我不太同。</span><span class="push-right">23F 01/01 22:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovewubai/push?y=11" target="_blank">lovewubai</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推做月亮做的很火大XDD</span><span class="push-right">24F 01/02 12:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Aaron1107/push?y=11" target="_blank">Aaron1107</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:aff大好生氣XDD 可是我似乎嘴角失守了XDDD</span><span class="push-right">25F 01/03 13:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Seiya/push?y=11" target="_blank">Seiya</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原po認真問結果被a大一句打翻 = =還是無解</span><span class="push-right">26F 01/04 00:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a10462003/push?y=11" target="_blank">a10462003</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:a大好兇..不過他媽的好有道理XDD</span><span class="push-right">27F 01/04 00:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有...有解啦OAO 下面兩篇解了(指</span><span class="push-right">28F 01/04 04:12</span></div>
剛剛發現 Z第18集 剛開始
悟飯從惡夢驚醒 竟然看著月亮大喊 怎麼又一個月亮... =.=
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=11" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來是超先進的投影技術-3-</span><span class="push-right">29F 01/04 04:38</span></div>
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[轉錄][閒聊] 我這輩子最崩潰的一場
http://disp.cc/b/191-2TDU
2012-01-05T19:15:05+08:00
2012-01-05T19:15:05+08:00
剛剛在網咖打了我這輩子500場英雄聯盟中最崩潰的一場...
遊戲裡崩潰、遊戲外也崩潰,因為是網咖所以沒rp再次崩潰,
(不然我有自信TOP FAIL或TOP 5一定上 XD)
因為是網咖+分身帳號,所以也留不下紀錄
所以...大家就把這篇文章當作小說(ㄅㄠˋ ㄩㄢˋ)看吧 ˊ_ˋ
========================= 以下日記文 ===========================
「還可以嗎?夥伴」勒布朗甩去了她手杖上的血跡
「挺的住...」我把蠍螯上的殘餘的水晶抖了抖
剛剛那是勒布朗殺的第二十個人
這場貌似沒有盡頭的戰鬥已經持續了一個半小時了
儘管腦中一直有個聲音在靠北:
「我幹麻不dodge阿...幹麻放著剛載好的上原結衣不看,幹麻要打這種詭異的NG...」
我就跟許多簽下志願役的阿兵哥一樣後悔不已
但是偏偏人在江湖身不由己,只能邊靠北邊摸著鼻子打下去...
※※
我回想這些令人崩潰的雪球是從哪開始的
一開始選人的時候,我選了個死歌:「中路 :)」
然後阿璃進來,LOCK
勒布朗進來,LOCK
EZ進來,LOCK
剩下沒選的那個表示:「......一群秒鎖是怎樣 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Howar31 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31(影紫歐人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉錄][閒聊] 我這輩子最崩潰的一場<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年01月05日 Thu. PM 07:15:05</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> LoL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> kurtsun (鮭魚軒)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [閒聊] 我這輩子最崩潰的一場<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jan 5 02:16:18 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
剛剛在網咖打了我這輩子500場英雄聯盟中最崩潰的一場...
遊戲裡崩潰、遊戲外也崩潰,因為是網咖所以沒rp再次崩潰,
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(不然我有自信TOP FAIL或TOP 5一定上 XD)</span></span></div>
因為是網咖+分身帳號,所以也留不下紀錄
<div class="ansi">所以...大家就把這篇文章當作小說<span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(ㄅㄠˋ ㄩㄢˋ)</span></span>看吧 ˊ_ˋ</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000">=========================<span style="color:#00F000"><span style="background-color:#000"> 以下日記文</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000"> ===========================</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「還可以嗎?夥伴」</span></span>勒布朗甩去了她手杖上的血跡</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「挺的住...」</span></span>我把蠍螯上的殘餘的水晶抖了抖</div>
剛剛那是勒布朗殺的第二十個人
<div class="ansi">這場貌似<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">沒有盡頭的戰鬥已經持續了一個半小時了</span></span></div>
儘管腦中一直有個聲音在靠北:
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「我幹麻不dodge阿...幹麻放著剛載好的上原結衣不看,幹麻要打這種詭異的NG...」</span></span></div>
我就跟許多簽下志願役的阿兵哥一樣後悔不已
但是偏偏人在江湖身不由己,只能邊靠北邊摸著鼻子打下去...
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000">※※</span></span></div>
我回想這些令人崩潰的雪球是從哪開始的
<div class="ansi">一開始選人的時候,我選了個死歌:<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「中路 :)」</span></span></div>
然後阿璃進來,LOCK
勒布朗進來,LOCK
EZ進來,LOCK
<div class="ansi">剩下沒選的那個表示:<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「......一群秒鎖是怎樣?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">然後他就選了安妮然後LOCK</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#F0F000"></span>
..
阿璃:「沒坦」
勒布朗:「沒坦」
EZ:「沒坦」
安妮:「沒坦」
面對混聲四部合唱的沒坦進行曲,我於是召喚蠍子史加納來應徵這個職位
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000">※※</span></span></div>
崩潰點二:
EZ跟阿璃一開始兩個就跑去下路
我來到了三匹狼的窩前,對著下路塔的方向喊著:
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「夥伴~~能不能幫我打個狼、拉個藍啊?」</span></span></div>
我等著遙遠的另一端隊友的回應
<div class="ansi">卻聽到個甜美的女聲回應我:<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「An ally has been slain」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「什麼!!?」</span></span>我不可置信的大喊</div>
為什麼下路的EZ可以在小狼還沒重生之前就死掉了呢!?
彷彿上帝聽到了我的問題,他回答我:
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「Double Kills~」</span></span></div>
是的,EZ跟阿璃一起進草叢,也一起去了
就這樣,我在四等前,下路死了四次
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「這樣子不行」</span></span>我說</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「下路在幹麻阿」</span></span>勒布朗說</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「我可以拿紅嗎」</span></span>安妮說</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「...」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000">※※</span></span></div>
崩潰點三:
我踩著對面雷茲冰冷的屍體,對著勒布朗說GJ
<div class="ansi">上下路又各死了一次,<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">比數是1:7</span></span></div>
接著我跟勒布朗一起去下路GANK,把對面的凱特林跟雷歐娜送回家
再回中路順路幹掉雷茲一次
再把對面上路的GP牙齒踢掉,把比數追到5:7時
才發現對面四個人復活後馬上衝下去吃小龍!!!!
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">在這絕體絕命之際,下路的EZ跟阿璃捨身衝入人群把小龍給搶了回來</span></span></div>
..然後手牽手一起升天again
沒一會兒,比數再度拉成7:17
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">接著的故事就像是鬼打牆一樣</span></span>、又像條洗不乾淨的白色三角褲一樣令人害怕</div>
上路的我們安妮跟敵人GP兩個人簡直像是簽署了互不侵犯條約
不但沒有離開彼此,也沒有傷害彼此,兩個人就是不斷的互農
甚至是我跑來GANK的時候,安妮還會趕緊把熊丟到GP旁邊,接著再倉促跑回塔邊RECALL
<div class="ansi">簡直就像跟GP大喊:<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「你快走!你快走阿!我老公回來了!!」</span></span>一樣</div>
中路的勒布朗愉快的蹂躪雷茲,雷茲彷彿像是上癮般的不斷追求著勒布朗
<div class="ansi">甚至勒布朗繩子丟歪,雷茲還會大喊一聲<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「喔~綁我吧」</span></span>而撲上去接受繩子的禁錮</div>
對面無敵兒開著熊拳,喝著先知在整個地圖跑來跑去瘋狂的拆眼
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「來追我啊~來追我啊~^__^」</span></span>他一邊踩著水花揚長而去,我根本追不到他</div>
我們下路的EZ + 阿璃,不斷的被對面的凱特琳 + 雷歐娜雙殺
..然後偶爾再被我跟勒布朗雙殺
這個循環
就如同冷戰時期的美國蘇聯、中午十二點的福利社、跟想追的學妹通網外一樣
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">成為了永無止盡的競爭,又看不到終點在哪,卻又只能不斷的重覆下去</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000">※※</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">更可怕的是,每當狀況絕望到大家發起投票的時候</span></span></span></span></div>
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<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">希望之光就會突然射到我們臉上,</span></span></span></div>
因為我很坦?勒布朗很CARRY?總之我們的瞬間輸出老是把我們從絕境中救回來
可是每次好不容易拿回的優勢又會瞬間崩壞,被ACE
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">你知道這種感覺有多飄邈嗎?</span></span></div>
就好像你期中考前每天都在打英雄聯盟、打手槍跟打系籃
考試時看到考卷什麼鬼都不會寫,教授看到你就瘋狂淫笑「我他媽當定你了!」
結果教室突然停電!
停電時隔壁正妹突然把整張寫完,一定100分的考卷換到你桌上還畫了一顆愛心
接著走出教室的時候,教授說考試不算、正妹說她考卷傳錯人,幹
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#008000"><span style="background-color:#000">※※</span></span></div>
再例如:
第一次龍戰,EZ捨身偷到龍
第二次龍戰,EZ大絕偷到龍
第三次龍戰,EZ大絕偷到龍
第四次龍戰,阿璃捨身偷到龍
第五次龍戰,無敵兒想SOLO被我們抓包搶走
第六次,他們不打龍了
又例如:
我方中路被破到水晶塔時,看似被GG定了
但這時對面凱特琳斷線,然後被我拉進來揍扁
可是我們反推到對面的時候他就又連回來了
還例如:
<div class="ansi">對方把我們三路外面兩根塔都破完了,<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">仗著大量經濟與等級優勢打巴龍時,</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi">被我用大絕抓住無敵兒後<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">重擊得手</span></span> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(我根本只是自暴自棄衝進去而已)</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi">於是我們反推掉一路水晶塔 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">(然後被ACE)</span></span></div>
接著我方持續團戰崩潰,整個家園只剩下主堡、商店跟半根塔
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">對方去打第二次巴龍,EZ在無視野的情況下,再次用大絕偷到了巴龍</span></span></span></span></div>
憤怒的對手決定硬拆我們家,結果被我們4換5,ACE
接著就是五人同心協力對付大量小兵,但是對面又衝進來硬要破
我沒有太大的傷害,只能把凱特琳拉進溫泉
當我們最後半根塔倒下時,我閉上眼睛,心想玩蛋了,主堡要爆了!!
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">...結果EZ用大、安妮用熊,Quadra kills</span></span></div>
而且一殺完三個水晶塔就都重生了
對方買裝怒回後,繼續把我們關在家裡打
<div class="ansi">等到<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">第三隻巴龍出來</span></span>的時候,馬上轉頭</div>
<div class="ansi">而我把們把握了這個機會,皇冠+FLASH衝上去幹掉了兩個人,<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">並且拿下了巴龍</span></span></div>
推爆上路的水晶塔跟中路的水晶塔,然後又被ACE
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">第四隻巴龍,</span></span>對面直接插滿眼在那個凹洞等牠</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">EZ說她大絕在CD</span></span>,於是巴龍被拿走,但是我們努力的守住了這段時間</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">第五隻巴龍,<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000"></span></span></span></span>我覺得巴龍應該也厭世了</div>
<div class="ansi">這時凱特琳已經快農到<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">500兵</span></span>了</div>
<div class="ansi">我們的勒布朗也快殺了<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">三十個人</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi">我們家只剩下<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">1/3血</span></span>的<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">主堡</span></span>跟<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">水晶塔</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi">他們家下路全新未拆,但是中跟上都沒了,<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">主堡</span></span>邊剩下<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">半根塔</span></span></div>
全部的人都是神裝,這時,誰走錯一步都會導致悲劇的下場
不過對方還是握有優勢,這時的人頭應該是50:70吧
於是他們決定打完巴龍再來
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">結果我們家的EZ,再次無視野無CV的情況下偷到巴龍</span></span>!!!!!!!</div>
我們家被殺爆的EZ,這場用大絕偷了10隻的龍+巴龍啊啊啊啊!!!!!
對面:「幹!太誇張了吧」
我方:「喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔喔」
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">雙方都覺得,決一死戰的時候到了</span></span></div>
就‧在‧此‧時!
<div class="ansi">勒布朗戴上了她<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="background-color:#000">第二頂帽子</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi">她甩了甩頭髮,將那疊滿的<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">大天使之杖</span></span>指向對面<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「讓我們幹掉他們,夥伴們!」</span></span></div>
並且隨著她性感、纖細的長腿、過膝襪與長靴,一步步的走下溫泉前的階梯
<div class="ansi">那威風凜凜的背影,彷彿對著我們說<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「跟的上來嗎?」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「可以!會贏!」</span></span>我在心中確信著,只要我坦住傷害,勒布朗就會handle一切!!</div>
..
然後,接著,勒布朗突然轉身走回來
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="/img/ansi/0/04ccb1b535.png" data-width="520" data-height="120"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">「對不起,我媽要我去吃飯,不走不行了」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000"> 「對不起,我媽要我去吃飯,不走不行了」</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000"> 「對不起,我媽要我去吃飯,不走不行了」</span></span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000"> 不行了」</span></span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000">了」</span></span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000"> 了」 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#000"> (回音)</span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ganymede0204/push?y=12" target="_blank">ganymede0204</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">16F 01/05 02:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RIVERWIND/push?y=12" target="_blank">RIVERWIND</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍表示:幹</span><span class="push-right">17F 01/05 02:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goldenworm/push?y=12" target="_blank">goldenworm</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:邊看邊笑 五次巴隆已經夠久了 還可以偷四次XDDD</span><span class="push-right">18F 01/05 02:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eeqqww112233/push?y=12" target="_blank">eeqqww112233</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ大有裝龍,巴龍自動秒血鎖定系統.....</span><span class="push-right">19F 01/05 02:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shinyhaung/push?y=12" target="_blank">shinyhaung</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">20F 01/05 02:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lastcrescent/push?y=12" target="_blank">lastcrescent</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍:太多便當 吃不下了</span><span class="push-right">21F 01/05 02:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lighttodie/push?y=12" target="_blank">lighttodie</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有扯到 ==|||</span><span class="push-right">22F 01/05 02:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arriy/push?y=12" target="_blank">arriy</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:也太久了吧 5隻巴龍-.-</span><span class="push-right">23F 01/05 02:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bigbarbar/push?y=12" target="_blank">bigbarbar</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文</span><span class="push-right">24F 01/05 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amuro0126/push?y=12" target="_blank">amuro0126</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推! 最後領了多少IP呀?</span><span class="push-right">25F 01/05 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lcomicer/push?y=12" target="_blank">lcomicer</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優文XD 太有趣了</span><span class="push-right">26F 01/05 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goldenworm/push?y=12" target="_blank">goldenworm</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個就算輸 也很多</span><span class="push-right">27F 01/05 02:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phypoem/push?y=12" target="_blank">phypoem</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:前面笑翻但結尾不夠有力阿!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">28F 01/05 02:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wiiann/push?y=12" target="_blank">wiiann</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結局太好笑了XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">29F 01/05 02:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lighttodie/push?y=12" target="_blank">lighttodie</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爛尾了阿!!!</span><span class="push-right">30F 01/05 02:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RunRun5566/push?y=12" target="_blank">RunRun5566</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太扯了</span><span class="push-right">31F 01/05 02:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ekmund/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ekmund</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這什麼鳥結局XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">32F 01/05 02:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eeqqww112233/push?y=12" target="_blank">eeqqww112233</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這一篇文章值 1000 Ptt幣 五隻巴龍~</span><span class="push-right">33F 01/05 02:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RIVERWIND/push?y=12" target="_blank">RIVERWIND</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ太猛了= =應該是整場最不可思議的點</span><span class="push-right">34F 01/05 02:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Hiado/push?y=12" target="_blank">Hiado</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:給你個推XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">35F 01/05 02:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/notBeing/push?y=12" target="_blank">notBeing</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文不推嗎!!!!</span><span class="push-right">36F 01/05 02:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chocobo4235/push?y=12" target="_blank">chocobo4235</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:被壓爆但狂偷巴龍的EZ 真是謎樣的人物</span><span class="push-right">37F 01/05 02:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pasaword/push?y=12" target="_blank">pasaword</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">38F 01/05 02:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a1005100/push?y=12" target="_blank">a1005100</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:..........這種抱怨文我噓不下去</span><span class="push-right">39F 01/05 02:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rabbit38381/push?y=12" target="_blank">rabbit38381</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好可憐~給個推</span><span class="push-right">40F 01/05 02:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/taians/push?y=12" target="_blank">taians</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈 推</span><span class="push-right">41F 01/05 02:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pf5179/push?y=12" target="_blank">pf5179</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹我笑死了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">42F 01/05 02:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DoAsInfinity/push?y=12" target="_blank">DoAsInfinity</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不能怪LebXD 真的打太久 無法預期的...</span><span class="push-right">43F 01/05 02:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Murasaki0110/push?y=12" target="_blank">Murasaki0110</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ OP</span><span class="push-right">44F 01/05 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/furbyyeh/push?y=12" target="_blank">furbyyeh</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Top1阿阿阿</span><span class="push-right">45F 01/05 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/biycer/push?y=12" target="_blank">biycer</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">46F 01/05 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wangchinmao/push?y=12" target="_blank">wangchinmao</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:500兵........</span><span class="push-right">47F 01/05 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/frank1033/push?y=12" target="_blank">frank1033</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結局完全出乎意料XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">48F 01/05 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sayhello/push?y=12" target="_blank">sayhello</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也打過40:70的 真的很無奈</span><span class="push-right">49F 01/05 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:文筆真好 笑不停耶 推推推</span><span class="push-right">50F 01/05 02:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/o07608/push?y=12" target="_blank">o07608</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標啦XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">51F 01/05 02:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bassh/push?y=12" target="_blank">bassh</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨寫成這樣也太用心了....噓不下去</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/05 02:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/icespeech/push?y=12" target="_blank">icespeech</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有RP嗎 XD</span><span class="push-right">53F 01/05 02:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sillymon/push?y=12" target="_blank">sillymon</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ez真是個神祕的高手</span><span class="push-right">54F 01/05 02:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rufus7/push?y=12" target="_blank">rufus7</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Ez超強</span><span class="push-right">55F 01/05 02:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/icespeech/push?y=12" target="_blank">icespeech</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺你們這場一堆可以上Top5的 XD</span><span class="push-right">56F 01/05 02:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/agan232002/push?y=12" target="_blank">agan232002</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實你才是EZ巴?!</span><span class="push-right">57F 01/05 02:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ending太好笑了 這篇真的寫的超棒</span><span class="push-right">58F 01/05 02:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHYHTYNG/push?y=12" target="_blank">SHYHTYNG</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑到翻</span><span class="push-right">59F 01/05 02:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FallenLeaves/push?y=12" target="_blank">FallenLeaves</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">60F 01/05 02:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ATGC/push?y=12" target="_blank">ATGC</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨心得文可是太好笑了XD</span><span class="push-right">61F 01/05 02:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/az820718/push?y=12" target="_blank">az820718</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:LOL版第一推就給你了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">62F 01/05 02:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a1868859/push?y=12" target="_blank">a1868859</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結局超展開阿XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">63F 01/05 02:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hjk145h/push?y=12" target="_blank">hjk145h</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推!</span><span class="push-right">64F 01/05 02:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:發現BUG 1:7的時候 你跟LEB殺了5個人 怎會4:7</span><span class="push-right">65F 01/05 02:42</span></div>
已修正 :)
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/louis8053/push?y=12" target="_blank">louis8053</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:leb腿~~(舔)</span><span class="push-right">66F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:無傷大雅 純粹因為太好笑一直看才發現的</span><span class="push-right">67F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/louis8053/push?y=12" target="_blank">louis8053</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:leb的腿~~(舔)</span><span class="push-right">68F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
想舔+1
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:BUG更正 你跟LEB殺了4個人</span><span class="push-right">69F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WalterBishop/push?y=12" target="_blank">WalterBishop</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">70F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/simshin/push?y=12" target="_blank">simshin</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真的是曲折離奇,精彩波折,不推不行 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">71F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lacos0212/push?y=12" target="_blank">lacos0212</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹這根西斯版的K大有什麼兩樣!!</span><span class="push-right">72F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你快走!你快走阿!我老公回來了!!</span><span class="push-right">73F 01/05 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lacos0212/push?y=12" target="_blank">lacos0212</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就一樣阿 我可以尊稱你為 K大嗎</span><span class="push-right">74F 01/05 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/windhiei/push?y=12" target="_blank">windhiei</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">75F 01/05 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lighttodie/push?y=12" target="_blank">lighttodie</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:把下路送回家可能只是殘血?或是踢掉GP牙齒沒殺掉?</span><span class="push-right">76F 01/05 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TerryTam/push?y=12" target="_blank">TerryTam</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:40:70...我也只是打過2x:5x(我是2x那邊) 剛開場隊友</span><span class="push-right">77F 01/05 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chjm52tslt/push?y=12" target="_blank">chjm52tslt</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好吧...難得推一下抱怨文(掩面&XDD)</span><span class="push-right">78F 01/05 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TerryTam/push?y=12" target="_blank">TerryTam</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:斷了一個 連回來後上中下已經被殺到崩潰 但最後神奇</span><span class="push-right">79F 01/05 02:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TerryTam/push?y=12" target="_blank">TerryTam</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:地逆轉了...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ak9564/push?y=12" target="_blank">ak9564</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看完我都覺得好累</span><span class="push-right">81F 01/05 02:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/windhiei/push?y=12" target="_blank">windhiei</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ 神人啊 XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">82F 01/05 02:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對不起,我媽要我去吃飯,不走不行了</span><span class="push-right">83F 01/05 02:45</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Disguise/push?y=12" target="_blank">Disguise</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇好多版標的句子 太神了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ak2001123321/push?y=12" target="_blank">ak2001123321</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">85F 01/05 02:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a127/push?y=12" target="_blank">a127</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個EZ真的有夠誇張,有RP存下來一定可以上TOP</span><span class="push-right">86F 01/05 02:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tfoxboy/push?y=12" target="_blank">tfoxboy</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">87F 01/05 02:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dmoki/push?y=12" target="_blank">dmoki</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推0.0</span><span class="push-right">88F 01/05 02:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/willy14/push?y=12" target="_blank">willy14</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這種抱怨文我可以XD 沒有RP真可惜!</span><span class="push-right">89F 01/05 02:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/only7456852/push?y=12" target="_blank">only7456852</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不推對不起自己XD</span><span class="push-right">90F 01/05 02:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lonely0830/push?y=12" target="_blank">lonely0830</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍應該厭世了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">91F 01/05 02:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oh78wei/push?y=12" target="_blank">oh78wei</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔~綁我吧</span><span class="push-right">92F 01/05 02:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RIVERWIND/push?y=12" target="_blank">RIVERWIND</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一場可以偷這麼多次巴龍...有RP沒TOP根本不太可能XD</span><span class="push-right">93F 01/05 02:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/misy4ru3/push?y=12" target="_blank">misy4ru3</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文要是每篇都這樣我超歡迎的XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">94F 01/05 02:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/misy4ru3/push?y=12" target="_blank">misy4ru3</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑到肚子好痛</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ggyy21201/push?y=12" target="_blank">ggyy21201</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ到底是什麼鬼..</span><span class="push-right">96F 01/05 02:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sawaman/push?y=12" target="_blank">sawaman</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑XDDD好想看RP</span><span class="push-right">97F 01/05 02:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/forbefor/push?y=12" target="_blank">forbefor</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">98F 01/05 02:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/macroka/push?y=12" target="_blank">macroka</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:剛剛打一場趙信被殺很大 在對方攻過來時候 飛過去GG!</span><span class="push-right">99F 01/05 02:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/anandydy529/push?y=12" target="_blank">anandydy529</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這如果有RP我一定供起來拜XD</span><span class="push-right">100F 01/05 03:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Adagietto/push?y=12" target="_blank">Adagietto</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">101F 01/05 03:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mibassmi/push?y=12" target="_blank">mibassmi</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文可以每一篇都像這樣嗎</span><span class="push-right">102F 01/05 03:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/superman121/push?y=12" target="_blank">superman121</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:媽的怎麼看都像是我同學 PO個ID來看看吧??</span><span class="push-right">103F 01/05 03:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OPOPPOP/push?y=12" target="_blank">OPOPPOP</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">104F 01/05 03:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OPOPPOP/push?y=12" target="_blank">OPOPPOP</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:偷十次太扯了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jackrain/push?y=12" target="_blank">jackrain</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:離奇到我想看rp 90分鐘的場我還真沒打過</span><span class="push-right">106F 01/05 03:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/venroxas/push?y=12" target="_blank">venroxas</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結局是三小阿阿xdddddddd</span><span class="push-right">107F 01/05 03:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keepoo/push?y=12" target="_blank">keepoo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結論:老媽無敵,need nerf</span><span class="push-right">108F 01/05 03:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CKnightalker/push?y=12" target="_blank">CKnightalker</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:top應該會出現一個死到破表的EZ一直尾刀龍跟巴龍XD</span><span class="push-right">109F 01/05 03:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cheng105/push?y=12" target="_blank">cheng105</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我媽叫我去吃飯真的很靠盃XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">110F 01/05 03:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/imorz/push?y=12" target="_blank">imorz</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一百分XDD</span><span class="push-right">111F 01/05 03:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ernieyang09/push?y=12" target="_blank">ernieyang09</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:包裝過的抱怨文還是抱怨文...</span><span class="push-right">112F 01/05 03:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/superman121/push?y=12" target="_blank">superman121</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上月事來嗎? 當小說看總行了吧?</span><span class="push-right">113F 01/05 03:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lnceric008/push?y=12" target="_blank">lnceric008</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:應該把死歌鎖下去,就不用打那麼久XD</span><span class="push-right">114F 01/05 03:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/olkl1234/push?y=12" target="_blank">olkl1234</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:心中有屎 看什麼都是屎</span><span class="push-right">115F 01/05 03:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fish0112/push?y=12" target="_blank">fish0112</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Leb老媽imba...</span><span class="push-right">116F 01/05 03:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aquatitan/push?y=12" target="_blank">aquatitan</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ應該是坐在網咖打然後你們對面有人坐在他旁邊吧</span><span class="push-right">117F 01/05 03:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fish0112/push?y=12" target="_blank">fish0112</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這告訴我們 ng還是玩自己要玩的吧(  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ</span><span class="push-right">118F 01/05 03:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aquatitan/push?y=12" target="_blank">aquatitan</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那個大也太扯了</span><span class="push-right">119F 01/05 03:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dacapo/push?y=12" target="_blank">dacapo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真有畫面= =</span><span class="push-right">120F 01/05 03:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Shin0607/push?y=12" target="_blank">Shin0607</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文的典範!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">121F 01/05 03:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lyger/push?y=12" target="_blank">lyger</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑, 邊看邊笑XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">122F 01/05 03:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GoodGoodEat/push?y=12" target="_blank">GoodGoodEat</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這樣抱怨文推阿~</span><span class="push-right">123F 01/05 03:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hodslance/push?y=12" target="_blank">hodslance</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對不起已經笑死在電腦桌前~~XDDDDDDD快笑死了</span><span class="push-right">124F 01/05 03:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h45279802/push?y=12" target="_blank">h45279802</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這場到底多曲折阿XDDD</span><span class="push-right">125F 01/05 03:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mark0708/push?y=12" target="_blank">mark0708</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑....</span><span class="push-right">126F 01/05 03:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/killmejohn/push?y=12" target="_blank">killmejohn</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD笑到嗆到.....</span><span class="push-right">127F 01/05 03:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h45279802/push?y=12" target="_blank">h45279802</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推EZ應該坐在敵隊選手的附近 偷看螢幕個屁阿!!</span><span class="push-right">128F 01/05 03:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iliad221167/push?y=12" target="_blank">iliad221167</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爆</span><span class="push-right">129F 01/05 03:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/n810516/push?y=12" target="_blank">n810516</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這才爆</span><span class="push-right">130F 01/05 03:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/o07608/push?y=12" target="_blank">o07608</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:報啦~</span><span class="push-right">131F 01/05 03:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/at7323028/push?y=12" target="_blank">at7323028</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:LOL版還有救...... 好想當場看RP喔 XD</span><span class="push-right">132F 01/05 03:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gox1117/push?y=12" target="_blank">gox1117</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得巴龍應該也厭世了XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">133F 01/05 03:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/teddy78924/push?y=12" target="_blank">teddy78924</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">134F 01/05 03:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victe9/push?y=12" target="_blank">victe9</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:文筆真好XDDD</span><span class="push-right">135F 01/05 03:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/carzy/push?y=12" target="_blank">carzy</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文能這樣po出來 想必原po的心情已經超然了XD</span><span class="push-right">136F 01/05 03:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Laco5566/push?y=12" target="_blank">Laco5566</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為什麼沒有RP 有RP這EZ一定TOP 1阿 太神啦!!!</span><span class="push-right">137F 01/05 03:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leon0712/push?y=12" target="_blank">leon0712</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">138F 01/05 03:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Laco5566/push?y=12" target="_blank">Laco5566</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Nerf mom plz</span><span class="push-right">139F 01/05 03:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/antisun/push?y=12" target="_blank">antisun</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑到快不行了</span><span class="push-right">140F 01/05 03:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Actionstar/push?y=12" target="_blank">Actionstar</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神作</span><span class="push-right">141F 01/05 03:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/venvendoggy/push?y=12" target="_blank">venvendoggy</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:mom so op</span><span class="push-right">142F 01/05 03:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a932l41l4/push?y=12" target="_blank">a932l41l4</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每天一篇這種抱怨文 看的也爽快</span><span class="push-right">143F 01/05 03:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/o07608/push?y=12" target="_blank">o07608</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:置底啦~揪竟版標會是什麼呢?</span><span class="push-right">144F 01/05 03:39</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/o07608/push?y=12" target="_blank">o07608</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那啥版標XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kobed/push?y=12" target="_blank">kobed</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標改了XD</span><span class="push-right">146F 01/05 03:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/suzukihiro/push?y=12" target="_blank">suzukihiro</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:迷之EZ</span><span class="push-right">147F 01/05 03:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TiauEX/push?y=12" target="_blank">TiauEX</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:值得一推的報怨文</span><span class="push-right">148F 01/05 03:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/philipsegly/push?y=12" target="_blank">philipsegly</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇真的可以推,相當有內容的心情日記XD</span><span class="push-right">149F 01/05 03:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/allforyour2/push?y=12" target="_blank">allforyour2</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:開頭讓我想到龍槍傳奇= = 突然想看Orz</span><span class="push-right">150F 01/05 03:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chrisvzxs/push?y=12" target="_blank">chrisvzxs</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:10隻真的太扯了點= =</span><span class="push-right">151F 01/05 03:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bigbite/push?y=12" target="_blank">bigbite</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈, 推一個, 我有加你好友</span><span class="push-right">152F 01/05 03:48</span></div>
你是哪位阿? XD
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aImErPeD/push?y=12" target="_blank">aImErPeD</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真是抱怨文的最佳範例啊!</span><span class="push-right">153F 01/05 03:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/diegolins/push?y=12" target="_blank">diegolins</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推!</span><span class="push-right">154F 01/05 03:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chihyanglee/push?y=12" target="_blank">chihyanglee</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍錯了嗎QQ</span><span class="push-right">155F 01/05 03:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Friis/push?y=12" target="_blank">Friis</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個媽媽開飯的時間有點晚阿 都快4點了</span><span class="push-right">156F 01/05 03:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:曲折離奇的神EZ XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">157F 01/05 03:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bassh/push?y=12" target="_blank">bassh</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這EZ到底是強是弱XDDDD 沒視野還偷得到也太猛</span><span class="push-right">158F 01/05 04:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MotoDawn/push?y=12" target="_blank">MotoDawn</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ez的R附加重擊 Need nerf!</span><span class="push-right">159F 01/05 04:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/artz6030/push?y=12" target="_blank">artz6030</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果是這樣的抱怨文 我可以XD</span><span class="push-right">160F 01/05 04:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MotoDawn/push?y=12" target="_blank">MotoDawn</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:李阿萬:你看 我就說EZ是廢角啊 只會偷龍( ′-`)y-~</span><span class="push-right">161F 01/05 04:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Uncontinue/push?y=12" target="_blank">Uncontinue</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太誇張了...</span><span class="push-right">162F 01/05 04:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aurorafox/push?y=12" target="_blank">aurorafox</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ的駕駛召喚師技能是帶了心眼是嗎...</span><span class="push-right">163F 01/05 04:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Uncontinue/push?y=12" target="_blank">Uncontinue</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:板標!!! 結果要NERF的是媽媽</span><span class="push-right">164F 01/05 04:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/minoru04/push?y=12" target="_blank">minoru04</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:LEB讓我想到星海坊主和鳳仙打3天說要去大號一樣</span><span class="push-right">165F 01/05 04:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elery/push?y=12" target="_blank">elery</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:同學你文筆太好了XDDDDD 沒有RP真的太可惜了....</span><span class="push-right">166F 01/05 04:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dietrichgary/push?y=12" target="_blank">dietrichgary</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:玩的人很崩潰 看的人笑到崩潰XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">167F 01/05 04:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WEIKUNG/push?y=12" target="_blank">WEIKUNG</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這ez開圖吧...</span><span class="push-right">168F 01/05 04:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Uncontinue/push?y=12" target="_blank">Uncontinue</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:聽你這樣講 有RP的話真的可以拿到幾個TOP 5</span><span class="push-right">169F 01/05 04:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elery/push?y=12" target="_blank">elery</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就算開圖能偷到10隻也太猛了..........</span><span class="push-right">170F 01/05 04:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nobody001/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nobody001</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:給我id 我想看戰績xdd</span><span class="push-right">171F 01/05 04:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeje27272003/push?y=12" target="_blank">jeje27272003</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ的駕駛員是不是叫基拉大和還是阿姆羅之類的</span><span class="push-right">172F 01/05 04:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fine0831/push?y=12" target="_blank">fine0831</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了XD</span><span class="push-right">173F 01/05 04:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TKforever/push?y=12" target="_blank">TKforever</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈 太好笑了 原PO有才華</span><span class="push-right">174F 01/05 04:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nanako81240/push?y=12" target="_blank">nanako81240</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推</span><span class="push-right">175F 01/05 04:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DrMC/push?y=12" target="_blank">DrMC</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇滿分XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">176F 01/05 05:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rinamami/push?y=12" target="_blank">rinamami</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在臉書上看到轉貼來朝聖給推XD</span><span class="push-right">177F 01/05 05:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/escrowdis/push?y=12" target="_blank">escrowdis</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD太幽默</span><span class="push-right">178F 01/05 05:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zebraseven/push?y=12" target="_blank">zebraseven</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一場NG被你講得很有畫面</span><span class="push-right">179F 01/05 05:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BoyLie/push?y=12" target="_blank">BoyLie</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ OP</span><span class="push-right">180F 01/05 05:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a23017174/push?y=12" target="_blank">a23017174</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標GET!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">181F 01/05 05:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eskimo13/push?y=12" target="_blank">eskimo13</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在台灣"貌似"不等於"好像";quadra拼錯。</span><span class="push-right">182F 01/05 06:17</span></div>
已訂正 :)
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a22122212/push?y=12" target="_blank">a22122212</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:nerf mom plz</span><span class="push-right">183F 01/05 06:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maple0935/push?y=12" target="_blank">maple0935</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鮭魚耶(戳)</span><span class="push-right">184F 01/05 06:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vovzz/push?y=12" target="_blank">vovzz</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹這EZ好煩喔..XD</span><span class="push-right">185F 01/05 06:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Uncontinue/push?y=12" target="_blank">Uncontinue</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:貌似有看起來的意思啊= = 糾錯也太過頭了吧</span><span class="push-right">186F 01/05 06:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ru8bj6/push?y=12" target="_blank">ru8bj6</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你沒問隊友或是對手有沒有人裝RP程式?</span><span class="push-right">187F 01/05 06:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shivaeye/push?y=12" target="_blank">shivaeye</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑</span><span class="push-right">188F 01/05 06:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/neotai41/push?y=12" target="_blank">neotai41</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDD</span><span class="push-right">189F 01/05 07:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a2364983/push?y=12" target="_blank">a2364983</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹 以後抱怨文都這樣寫多好</span><span class="push-right">190F 01/05 07:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Isabel99/push?y=12" target="_blank">Isabel99</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹這太好笑了XDDDDDDDDDD根本打到崩潰吧</span><span class="push-right">191F 01/05 07:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyo69084/push?y=12" target="_blank">kyo69084</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好慘 我笑翻了</span><span class="push-right">192F 01/05 07:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bheegrl/push?y=12" target="_blank">bheegrl</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">193F 01/05 07:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tropicmyway/push?y=12" target="_blank">tropicmyway</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:偷了10隻龍+巴龍阿!!!!! EZ is op, Nerf mom plz.</span><span class="push-right">194F 01/05 07:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pisceswu/push?y=12" target="_blank">pisceswu</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:閱</span><span class="push-right">195F 01/05 07:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momeha/push?y=12" target="_blank">momeha</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:50:70的圖咧?</span><span class="push-right">196F 01/05 07:43</span></div>
沒圖,SORRY我也很難過 QQ
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tropicmyway/push?y=12" target="_blank">tropicmyway</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過一隻被殺爆的EZ究竟是怎麼偷這麼多巴龍的= ="</span><span class="push-right">197F 01/05 07:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hardway/push?y=12" target="_blank">hardway</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹 就算你是唬爛的我還是覺得很好笑 哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">198F 01/05 07:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ru8bj6/push?y=12" target="_blank">ru8bj6</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:話說這種出個兩件魔防裝就樂勝的場,對面__吧= =</span><span class="push-right">199F 01/05 07:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ahw12000/push?y=12" target="_blank">ahw12000</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優質抱怨文</span><span class="push-right">200F 01/05 08:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kuies/push?y=12" target="_blank">kuies</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優質抱怨文,這種的話我可以唷(笑)</span><span class="push-right">201F 01/05 08:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asamia/push?y=12" target="_blank">asamia</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優質抱怨文 (至少可以配早餐)</span><span class="push-right">202F 01/05 08:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GIBBLUE2/push?y=12" target="_blank">GIBBLUE2</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠腰XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">203F 01/05 08:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a3329/push?y=12" target="_blank">a3329</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文xd 我可以拿紅嗎?</span><span class="push-right">204F 01/05 08:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/doiverson/push?y=12" target="_blank">doiverson</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">205F 01/05 08:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Anzar/push?y=12" target="_blank">Anzar</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優良好文</span><span class="push-right">206F 01/05 08:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/morphyster/push?y=12" target="_blank">morphyster</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這文太好笑了,梗超多,笑翻了</span><span class="push-right">207F 01/05 08:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jengmei/push?y=12" target="_blank">jengmei</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爛尾= =+不過正因為濫,更顯得好笑!!!給推!!!</span><span class="push-right">208F 01/05 08:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/weyung/push?y=12" target="_blank">weyung</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了XDD</span><span class="push-right">209F 01/05 08:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamwind7954/push?y=12" target="_blank">iamwind7954</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 好讚</span><span class="push-right">210F 01/05 08:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloud7515/push?y=12" target="_blank">cloud7515</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹 EZ開圖啦XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">211F 01/05 08:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ggyyhippo/push?y=12" target="_blank">ggyyhippo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">212F 01/05 08:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoliyoli/push?y=12" target="_blank">yoliyoli</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你快走!你快走阿!我老公回來了! XD</span><span class="push-right">213F 01/05 08:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hiphopkai/push?y=12" target="_blank">hiphopkai</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">214F 01/05 08:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyoti/push?y=12" target="_blank">kyoti</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ超強</span><span class="push-right">215F 01/05 09:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/molukino/push?y=12" target="_blank">molukino</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ㄟ.... 原PO在網咖 然後要看上原結衣????</span><span class="push-right">216F 01/05 09:01</span></div>
上原結衣在家裡的D槽啦 XD
再怎麼說,在網咖看上原結衣也太沒羞恥心了... (艸)
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iulan3122/push?y=12" target="_blank">iulan3122</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:豪洨文</span><span class="push-right">217F 01/05 09:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shionst/push?y=12" target="_blank">shionst</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">218F 01/05 09:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NARUHOTO/push?y=12" target="_blank">NARUHOTO</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇的重點是告訴我們上原結衣新片出了快去載齁 XD</span><span class="push-right">219F 01/05 09:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nisak/push?y=12" target="_blank">nisak</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優質抱怨文</span><span class="push-right">220F 01/05 09:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jlcsn/push?y=12" target="_blank">jlcsn</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這抱怨文太讚了XD</span><span class="push-right">221F 01/05 09:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/charles716/push?y=12" target="_blank">charles716</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來我太好心了 我媽要我吃飯我都說等一下 繼續打..</span><span class="push-right">222F 01/05 09:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/showzenk/push?y=12" target="_blank">showzenk</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑~~ 超棒!寫小說好不XDDDD!?!?</span><span class="push-right">223F 01/05 09:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fragment1007/push?y=12" target="_blank">fragment1007</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還有什麼事情比跟媽媽吃飯重要?</span><span class="push-right">224F 01/05 09:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/charles716/push?y=12" target="_blank">charles716</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結果他媽的多打三十分 我媽狂發飆碎碎念...</span><span class="push-right">225F 01/05 09:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/quntin/push?y=12" target="_blank">quntin</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那個喔喔喔喔喔好熱血XDDD</span><span class="push-right">226F 01/05 09:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/suma00688/push?y=12" target="_blank">suma00688</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看完笑翻XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">227F 01/05 09:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kent550079/push?y=12" target="_blank">kent550079</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:虎爛XD 在網咖抓A片 沒圖沒真相</span><span class="push-right">228F 01/05 09:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tassadar1/push?y=12" target="_blank">tassadar1</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑 XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">229F 01/05 09:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/uowa/push?y=12" target="_blank">uowa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我還記得我上次跟朋友打也是這樣,僵持一個多小時,朋</span><span class="push-right">230F 01/05 09:38</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/uowa/push?y=12" target="_blank">uowa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:友突然打給我說:我快到了,你記得吧(我完全忘了阿)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wellkimi/push?y=12" target="_blank">wellkimi</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得巴龍應該也厭世了</span><span class="push-right">232F 01/05 09:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/uowa/push?y=12" target="_blank">uowa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:誰知道這場打這麼久,於是跟隊友講之後硬推巴龍,啥都</span><span class="push-right">233F 01/05 09:39</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/uowa/push?y=12" target="_blank">uowa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:直衝中路,竟然贏了XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這EZ 運氣100分 實力0分 XDD</span><span class="push-right">235F 01/05 09:47</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cat0405/push?y=12" target="_blank">cat0405</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍:別打了,我自殺</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Marsoren/push?y=12" target="_blank">Marsoren</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果是這樣的日記文 可以唷XDDD</span><span class="push-right">237F 01/05 09:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/johnnyjaiu/push?y=12" target="_blank">johnnyjaiu</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超優質的抱怨文 XD 記得版龜加一條「優質抱怨無罪」</span><span class="push-right">238F 01/05 09:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fz/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fz</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">239F 01/05 09:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/robo3456/push?y=12" target="_blank">robo3456</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:滿好笑的啊</span><span class="push-right">240F 01/05 09:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bingreen/push?y=12" target="_blank">bingreen</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大笑中</span><span class="push-right">241F 01/05 09:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Jefa910/push?y=12" target="_blank">Jefa910</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:網咖抓A片只有毫洨而已</span><span class="push-right">242F 01/05 09:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jkiop79315/push?y=12" target="_blank">jkiop79315</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上不要這樣說 我以前也以為在網咖看a片打手槍是笑</span><span class="push-right">243F 01/05 09:59</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jkiop79315/push?y=12" target="_blank">jkiop79315</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:話 有一次隔壁包廂的真的在打手槍時我就笑不出來了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kent550079/push?y=12" target="_blank">kent550079</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結論 : 原PO好糟糕</span><span class="push-right">245F 01/05 10:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stupigII/push?y=12" target="_blank">stupigII</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:打一個多小時還輸 真的很嘔.....</span><span class="push-right">246F 01/05 10:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/w3160828/push?y=12" target="_blank">w3160828</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">247F 01/05 10:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/w3160828/push?y=12" target="_blank">w3160828</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還是因為Carry被老媽抓去吃飯 更嘔巴</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nfsong/push?y=12" target="_blank">nfsong</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠</span><span class="push-right">249F 01/05 10:04</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: kurtsun 來自: 163.24.167.84 (01/05 10:06)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chancying/push?y=12" target="_blank">chancying</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推啊~~</span><span class="push-right">250F 01/05 10:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Bohm/push?y=12" target="_blank">Bohm</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:LOL!!</span><span class="push-right">251F 01/05 10:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iceisland/push?y=12" target="_blank">iceisland</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那個偷龍有爆點</span><span class="push-right">252F 01/05 10:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/f94/push?y=12" target="_blank">f94</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">253F 01/05 10:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/han72/push?y=12" target="_blank">han72</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個EZ專練心眼的是吧</span><span class="push-right">254F 01/05 10:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iceisland/push?y=12" target="_blank">iceisland</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:板標了!</span><span class="push-right">255F 01/05 10:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silencedance/push?y=12" target="_blank">silencedance</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹 好好笑XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">256F 01/05 10:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cospara/push?y=12" target="_blank">cospara</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這EZ是超人類吧</span><span class="push-right">257F 01/05 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acezero/push?y=12" target="_blank">acezero</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ:我的大絕,是突破戰爭迷霧的大絕啊!</span><span class="push-right">258F 01/05 10:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dingshan/push?y=12" target="_blank">dingshan</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:什麼秘術...他用的根本是龍破斬吧</span><span class="push-right">259F 01/05 10:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hunkwithqoo/push?y=12" target="_blank">hunkwithqoo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這EZ超神....</span><span class="push-right">260F 01/05 10:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/putout/push?y=12" target="_blank">putout</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推...我好想看影片版...</span><span class="push-right">261F 01/05 10:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/soaoi/push?y=12" target="_blank">soaoi</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑翻XD</span><span class="push-right">262F 01/05 10:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rhumbic4/push?y=12" target="_blank">rhumbic4</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">263F 01/05 10:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OyAlbert/push?y=12" target="_blank">OyAlbert</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ太強了 靠大偷10隻龍+巴龍XD</span><span class="push-right">264F 01/05 10:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bernon/push?y=12" target="_blank">bernon</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫得好還是抱怨文</span><span class="push-right">265F 01/05 11:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/safinaco/push?y=12" target="_blank">safinaco</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:補回"爆"</span><span class="push-right">266F 01/05 11:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/caesar12/push?y=12" target="_blank">caesar12</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇抱怨文置底了XD</span><span class="push-right">267F 01/05 11:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ciwewa/push?y=12" target="_blank">ciwewa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ is OP, Nerf mom PLZ. XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">268F 01/05 11:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/allen770826/push?y=12" target="_blank">allen770826</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:希望隊友 或對手 能上個b 分享一下rp阿</span><span class="push-right">269F 01/05 11:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/misy4ru3/push?y=12" target="_blank">misy4ru3</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:新人類EZ</span><span class="push-right">270F 01/05 11:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TxKxZeke/push?y=12" target="_blank">TxKxZeke</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老媽IMBA! nerf PAL!</span><span class="push-right">271F 01/05 11:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BuzzStyle/push?y=12" target="_blank">BuzzStyle</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍表示:.............保安在嗎..../ ___ \</span><span class="push-right">272F 01/05 11:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzzlittleman/push?y=12" target="_blank">zzzlittleman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">273F 01/05 11:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aded/push?y=12" target="_blank">aded</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">274F 01/05 11:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kryptos/push?y=12" target="_blank">kryptos</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ 吃飯 巴龍.....XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">275F 01/05 11:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linepman/push?y=12" target="_blank">linepman</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爆怨文</span><span class="push-right">276F 01/05 11:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/r30385/push?y=12" target="_blank">r30385</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">277F 01/05 11:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/irenenige/push?y=12" target="_blank">irenenige</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇文也太好笑了啦xdd 給推!</span><span class="push-right">278F 01/05 11:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sakeru/push?y=12" target="_blank">sakeru</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我笑了</span><span class="push-right">279F 01/05 11:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ilove305mmm/push?y=12" target="_blank">ilove305mmm</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">280F 01/05 12:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hunkwithqoo/push?y=12" target="_blank">hunkwithqoo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:八龍領便當以後要吃第一口的時候又被拖出來鞭XDD</span><span class="push-right">281F 01/05 12:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eternalwrath/push?y=12" target="_blank">eternalwrath</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我笑死了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">282F 01/05 12:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Blitzcrank/push?y=12" target="_blank">Blitzcrank</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:吃飯囉~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">283F 01/05 12:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a7420852/push?y=12" target="_blank">a7420852</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文標準楷模XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">284F 01/05 12:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fairytale929/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fairytale929</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ez = 湖人 Horry XD</span><span class="push-right">285F 01/05 12:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linco1201/push?y=12" target="_blank">linco1201</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大絕吃了十隻龍,所以他會戰都沒大絕可以放吧XD</span><span class="push-right">286F 01/05 12:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Raptorjet/push?y=12" target="_blank">Raptorjet</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:fate梗XD Archer「能跟得上嗎」</span><span class="push-right">287F 01/05 12:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JohnnyWalker/push?y=12" target="_blank">JohnnyWalker</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老媽imba lol</span><span class="push-right">288F 01/05 12:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donnolove/push?y=12" target="_blank">donnolove</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:巴龍也想放飯了</span><span class="push-right">289F 01/05 12:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/plauge/push?y=12" target="_blank">plauge</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:以後要發抱怨文的麻煩請參考這篇</span><span class="push-right">290F 01/05 12:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Apoint/push?y=12" target="_blank">Apoint</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">291F 01/05 12:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ray2277/push?y=12" target="_blank">ray2277</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">292F 01/05 12:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fishjy200/push?y=12" target="_blank">fishjy200</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了</span><span class="push-right">293F 01/05 12:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shiinalingo/push?y=12" target="_blank">shiinalingo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優文!!!</span><span class="push-right">294F 01/05 12:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/et310/push?y=12" target="_blank">et310</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優文給推 我可以拿紅嗎?</span><span class="push-right">295F 01/05 12:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sywolf/push?y=12" target="_blank">sywolf</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好優質的閒聊文=口=a</span><span class="push-right">296F 01/05 12:50</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/as43/push?y=12" target="_blank">as43</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈 經典</span><span class="push-right">298F 01/05 12:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pricessyo/push?y=12" target="_blank">pricessyo</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">299F 01/05 13:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iel/push?y=12" target="_blank">iel</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:PUSH</span><span class="push-right">300F 01/05 13:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sting47/push?y=12" target="_blank">sting47</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:打過這種的XDDD 要投降就有希望是怎樣...XDD</span><span class="push-right">301F 01/05 13:17</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ducatio/push?y=12" target="_blank">ducatio</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了XDDD</span><span class="push-right">303F 01/05 14:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AquariusTACO/push?y=12" target="_blank">AquariusTACO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD 快笑死XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">304F 01/05 14:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/akirk0823/push?y=12" target="_blank">akirk0823</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd</span><span class="push-right">305F 01/05 14:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wensan/push?y=12" target="_blank">wensan</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實九個人有RP嗎?XDDD</span><span class="push-right">306F 01/05 14:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thatsocool/push?y=12" target="_blank">thatsocool</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有遇過早上七點說要去上課換阿公打的...</span><span class="push-right">307F 01/05 14:22</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thatsocool/push?y=12" target="_blank">thatsocool</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:阿公一接手的第一次會戰就連四殺...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gidens/push?y=12" target="_blank">gidens</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Nerf 阿公...</span><span class="push-right">309F 01/05 14:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kurtsun/push?y=12" target="_blank">kurtsun</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:阿公:拎祖公在打魔法門1的時候你連顆受精卵都不是啦</span><span class="push-right">310F 01/05 14:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ekmund/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ekmund</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓樓上那個也很有爆點XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">311F 01/05 14:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ptt1988/push?y=12" target="_blank">ptt1988</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇抱怨文實在太好笑了!!!XDDD</span><span class="push-right">312F 01/05 15:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sanco/push?y=12" target="_blank">Sanco</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最後到底打幾小時啊</span><span class="push-right">313F 01/05 15:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jay25140422/push?y=12" target="_blank">jay25140422</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇超讚的啦!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">314F 01/05 15:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/widec/push?y=12" target="_blank">widec</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這位EZ稱號是下路東巴,屠龍高手</span><span class="push-right">315F 01/05 15:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/raxbear/push?y=12" target="_blank">raxbear</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD 巴龍厭世 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">316F 01/05 15:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chyuyi/push?y=12" target="_blank">chyuyi</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推這篇XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">317F 01/05 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pennymarkfox/push?y=12" target="_blank">pennymarkfox</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我快笑死了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">318F 01/05 15:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shoya/push?y=12" target="_blank">shoya</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇太好笑了 XD</span><span class="push-right">319F 01/05 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/weboau/push?y=12" target="_blank">weboau</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:商店XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">320F 01/05 16:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chyuyi/push?y=12" target="_blank">chyuyi</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨文又怎樣~這篇好有梗XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">321F 01/05 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/whoamiaa/push?y=12" target="_blank">whoamiaa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ:其實對面的人坐我旁邊 Leb:但對面有一個是我老媽</span><span class="push-right">322F 01/05 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pokepi/push?y=12" target="_blank">pokepi</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實EZ是最強的吧XD</span><span class="push-right">323F 01/05 16:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/egg123/push?y=12" target="_blank">egg123</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:拍拍 這篇超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">324F 01/05 16:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ilris/push?y=12" target="_blank">ilris</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:.XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">325F 01/05 16:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pichubaby/push?y=12" target="_blank">pichubaby</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這總時間打多久啊XDD</span><span class="push-right">326F 01/05 16:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Isabel99/push?y=12" target="_blank">Isabel99</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:欸等等 那這意思是 對面那一隊 也打了一個半hr lol</span><span class="push-right">327F 01/05 16:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/enjoy1718/push?y=12" target="_blank">enjoy1718</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好玩了!!!!! 吃飯果然是最重要的!!!</span><span class="push-right">328F 01/05 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹這日記抱怨文太威猛 排版文筆一級棒 如果每篇日記</span><span class="push-right">329F 01/05 17:52</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱怨都這樣 我想板龜就可以丟了!</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:話說沒RP可是至少可以截圖啊...最後結果沒截圖大失敗</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/IaMfReE/push?y=12" target="_blank">IaMfReE</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:打這麼久你怎麼可以記這麼清楚阿...= =</span><span class="push-right">332F 01/05 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/librastw/push?y=12" target="_blank">librastw</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈~~有笑有推</span><span class="push-right">333F 01/05 18:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FearBomb/push?y=12" target="_blank">FearBomb</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果每篇抱怨文文筆都有這麼好就好了</span><span class="push-right">334F 01/05 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/totohoho/push?y=12" target="_blank">totohoho</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:呵呵</span><span class="push-right">335F 01/05 18:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/i12348/push?y=12" target="_blank">i12348</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:文筆的重要性</span><span class="push-right">336F 01/05 18:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qiryimvjp/push?y=12" target="_blank">qiryimvjp</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/e5Xd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/e5Xd</a></span><span class="push-right">337F 01/05 18:46</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%E6%88%91%E5%AA%BD%E8%A6%81%E6%88%91%E5%8E%BB%E5%90%83%E9%A3%AF%E4%BA%86#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Let me google that for you</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stkissstone/push?y=12" target="_blank">stkissstone</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有網頁版嗎wwwww 想分享給別人看</span><span class="push-right">338F 01/05 18:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fei6409/push?y=12" target="_blank">fei6409</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EZ:麻煩念一下我ult的名字</span><span class="push-right">339F 01/05 18:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Narancia/push?y=12" target="_blank">Narancia</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對文章或文章內按大Q就有網址了</span><span class="push-right">340F 01/05 18:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hahn/push?y=12" target="_blank">hahn</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">341F 01/05 19:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ntcpe27/push?y=12" target="_blank">ntcpe27</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:求RP 可以把EZ送上TOP1嗎 我好想看</span><span class="push-right">342F 01/05 19:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/howar31/push?y=12" target="_blank">howar31</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:網頁版可以轉文到Disp.cc去再分享</span><span class="push-right">343F 01/05 19:12</span></div>
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howar31
[轉寄][無言] 這翻譯..
http://disp.cc/b/191-Y6j
2011-01-02T08:44:04+08:00
2011-01-02T08:44:04+08:00
前幾天看了一個電影
裡面的翻譯是上行是英文,下行是中文翻譯
像這樣...
thank you
謝謝你
其中有一段是
主角看到A做出了驚人的舉動
主角臉露訝異然後發出讚嘆的一聲...
WOW
魔獸世界
花惹發!!!!!!!!!!!(╯ˋ皿ˊ)╯︵ ┴─┴ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Howar31 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (howar31.bbs@ptt.cc)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉寄][無言] 這翻譯..<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2011年01月02日 Sun. AM 08:44:04</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> StupidClown </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> stab22 (逼逼)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [無言] 這翻譯..<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Dec 30 00:57:43 2010</div><hr color="#008080" />
前幾天看了一個電影
裡面的翻譯是上行是英文,下行是中文翻譯
像這樣...
thank you
謝謝你
其中有一段是
主角看到A做出了驚人的舉動
主角臉露訝異然後發出讚嘆的一聲...
WOW
魔獸世界
花惹發!!!!!!!!!!!(╯ˋ皿ˊ)╯︵ ┴─┴
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">playgame2420</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以轉西斯版嗎XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 08:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">MisterH</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上...這邊不就是西斯版嗎= = 你害我想轉笨版... <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 09:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lovelySky</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上...這裡是笨版啊?@@a <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 09:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MisterH</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我啥時從西斯跑來笨版了= =" 有蠢有推... <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 09:14</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lizardwang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/30 12:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">YorkJon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑了XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/30 12:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">crystal1011</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW~~~XDDD</span><span class="push-right">10F 12/30 13:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yangwn1234</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈 WOW~~~~~~~XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">11F 12/30 13:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">redchia</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈哈超好笑XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">12F 12/30 13:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Diabolik</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:應該是下載的</span><span class="push-right">13F 12/30 13:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a24051</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">14F 12/30 13:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MyoCat</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">15F 12/30 14:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kkkaaax</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">16F 12/30 15:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">key11114</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddd</span><span class="push-right">17F 12/30 15:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">happymama</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">18F 12/30 16:16</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Adamsun0306</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 WOW</span> 12/30 16:17</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">showershine</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑來朝聖了XDDD</span><span class="push-right">19F 12/30 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">playgame2420</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我在簽名檔裡面耶耶耶</span><span class="push-right">20F 12/30 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">imeder</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">21F 12/30 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">peggypipi311</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:實在太好笑了!!!</span><span class="push-right">22F 12/30 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">qvTYTvp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">23F 12/30 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">KYLAT</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Google:怪我囉?</span><span class="push-right">24F 12/30 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author">nonebelieve</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:盜版片 不噓嗎?</span><span class="push-right">25F 12/30 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">laios</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑來朝聖了+1XDDD</span><span class="push-right">26F 12/30 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">newapo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">27F 12/30 17:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">e29895037ric</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來是用某些搜尋演算翻譯軟體翻譯的。</span><span class="push-right">28F 12/30 17:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">visit989898</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOWWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWO</span><span class="push-right">29F 12/30 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Seirra</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">30F 12/30 18:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lonely0830</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY</span><span class="push-right">31F 12/30 19:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">newper</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來翻譯WOW玩很大</span><span class="push-right">32F 12/30 19:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">isaza</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">33F 12/30 19:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">olivia1124</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好宅!!</span><span class="push-right">34F 12/30 20:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fullout</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:盜版梗 推一下</span><span class="push-right">35F 12/30 21:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">maryvisac</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好宅XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">36F 12/30 22:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">s86283</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酷斃了</span><span class="push-right">37F 12/31 00:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">tomap41017</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啥電影可以告知嗎XD</span><span class="push-right">38F 12/31 00:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">tomap41017</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:截個圖也好</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tinyrain</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">40F 12/31 01:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BJGooli</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我之前有看到迅X翻譯oh my god→我的觀世音菩薩</span><span class="push-right">41F 12/31 11:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FangCC</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOWWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWO</span><span class="push-right">42F 12/31 13:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nickzen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為了部落!</span><span class="push-right">43F 12/31 16:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">phooey357</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇很好笑啊怎麼才30多推XDDD</span><span class="push-right">44F 12/31 16:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shin696</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:整個情緒都被破壞了XDD</span><span class="push-right">45F 12/31 20:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nightrainbow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">46F 12/31 21:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">summeruse</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">47F 12/31 21:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vulwei</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好好笑!!!是哪部電影啊</span><span class="push-right">48F 12/31 21:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mitomo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑點XD 推!!!</span><span class="push-right">49F 01/01 02:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wonderwhy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">50F 01/01 02:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">likesister</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:簽名檔鬼打牆阿</span><span class="push-right">51F 01/01 05:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jibes932</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/01 12:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">px4869kid</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:置入性行銷!?</span><span class="push-right">53F 01/01 13:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ORB941</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW</span><span class="push-right">54F 01/01 21:36</span></div>
截圖來囉!看到畫面應該很多人都知道是哪部影片了吧!
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:朝聖推xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span></div>
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howar31
[轉寄][轉錄][無言] 這翻譯..
http://disp.cc/b/191-Y6i
2011-01-02T08:42:04+08:00
2011-01-02T08:42:04+08:00
前幾天看了一個電影
裡面的翻譯是上行是英文,下行是中文翻譯
像這樣...
thank you
謝謝你
其中有一段是
主角看到A做出了驚人的舉動
主角臉露訝異然後發出讚嘆的一聲...
WOW
魔獸世界
花惹發!!!!!!!!!!!(╯ˋ皿ˊ)╯︵ ┴─┴ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Howar31 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (howar31.bbs@ptt.cc)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉寄][轉錄][無言] 這翻譯..<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2011年01月02日 Sun. AM 08:42:04</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> WOW </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Adamsun0306 (囧興)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉錄][無言] 這翻譯..<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Dec 30 16:17:08 2010</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> StupidClown </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> stab22 (逼逼)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [無言] 這翻譯..<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Dec 30 00:57:43 2010</div><hr color="#008080" />
前幾天看了一個電影
裡面的翻譯是上行是英文,下行是中文翻譯
像這樣...
thank you
謝謝你
其中有一段是
主角看到A做出了驚人的舉動
主角臉露訝異然後發出讚嘆的一聲...
WOW
魔獸世界
花惹發!!!!!!!!!!!(╯ˋ皿ˊ)╯︵ ┴─┴
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">playgame2420</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以轉西斯版嗎XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 08:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">MisterH</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上...這邊不就是西斯版嗎= = 你害我想轉笨版... <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 09:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lovelySky</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上...這裡是笨版啊?@@a <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 09:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MisterH</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我啥時從西斯跑來笨版了= =" 有蠢有推... <span style="color:#C0C0C0"></span><span class="push-right">10/02 09:14</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">deblue</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:什麼電影阿XD</span><span class="push-right">1F 12/30 01:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">andy30093</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哪部電影阿XDDD</span><span class="push-right">2F 12/30 01:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">St529</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW</span><span class="push-right">3F 12/30 01:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iamfenixsc</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:翻譯是它</span><span class="push-right">4F 12/30 01:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">amg3256</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:MOM</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/30 01:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">causeofyou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">6F 12/30 04:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dogchang04</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW~~~XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">7F 12/30 12:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lizardwang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/30 12:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">YorkJon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑了XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/30 12:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">crystal1011</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW~~~XDDD</span><span class="push-right">10F 12/30 13:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yangwn1234</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈 WOW~~~~~~~XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">11F 12/30 13:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">redchia</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈哈超好笑XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">12F 12/30 13:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Diabolik</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:應該是下載的</span><span class="push-right">13F 12/30 13:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">a24051</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">14F 12/30 13:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MyoCat</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">15F 12/30 14:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kkkaaax</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">16F 12/30 15:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">key11114</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddd</span><span class="push-right">17F 12/30 15:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">happymama</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">18F 12/30 16:16</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zseineo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">1F 12/30 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">killer922</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">2F 12/30 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dogalan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">3F 12/30 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Monnmonn</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">4F 12/30 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sycslow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這翻譯是不是中毒了XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/30 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">auliori</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">6F 12/30 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cbull</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">7F 12/30 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">angelfaker</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/30 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">deathnote14</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我之前看過 奪魂鉅翻譯跑出一堆火影的詞 血繼限界之類</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/30 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">duolon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老實說電影院不太可能這麼搞吧 應該是字幕組的惡搞</span><span class="push-right">10F 12/30 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">esper1</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">11F 12/30 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">smoker9527</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這八成只是射手網抓來的字幕....</span><span class="push-right">12F 12/30 16:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">smoker9527</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要不然就pps</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">egg781</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:血繼限界那個我看過,超白爛的,氣氛完全被搞的好像很輕鬆</span><span class="push-right">14F 12/30 16:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pljck</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這字幕組在幹什麼阿XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">15F 12/30 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Dalaia</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:網路上抓的才會這樣</span><span class="push-right">16F 12/30 16:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Nadialove</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">17F 12/30 16:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ZzERICzZ</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Elva表示:</span><span class="push-right">18F 12/30 16:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">pljck</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標了</span><span class="push-right">19F 12/30 16:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">KIDNEY</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標GET</span><span class="push-right">20F 12/30 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gn771226</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:趕上了</span><span class="push-right">21F 12/30 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">phenix1014</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:翻譯幹得好阿</span><span class="push-right">22F 12/30 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ripper</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這樣根本是告訴大家這電影是抓的</span><span class="push-right">23F 12/30 16:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">speed44</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:搞笑阿XD</span><span class="push-right">24F 12/30 16:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">foget</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:板標!</span><span class="push-right">25F 12/30 17:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fayfay0830</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow</span><span class="push-right">26F 12/30 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Akaski</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標勒XDDDY</span><span class="push-right">27F 12/30 17:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">strandolph</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:=== 多大人沒有等號我非常驚奇 ===</span><span class="push-right">28F 12/30 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gahanleeo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">29F 12/30 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MAYOG</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:應該是STEP UP 3...</span><span class="push-right">30F 12/30 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">playerlin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這翻譯該被拖去__了...XD</span><span class="push-right">31F 12/30 19:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ianlblt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">32F 12/30 19:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Rucca</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝你,魔獸世界</span><span class="push-right">33F 12/30 20:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">riker729</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這應該是盜版吧!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">34F 12/30 21:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">knight00931</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">35F 12/30 21:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mightysuns</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:not bad XD</span><span class="push-right">36F 12/30 22:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">godfight</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WOW WOW~</span><span class="push-right">37F 12/31 00:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">robinwillfly</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:寫作WOW 讀作魔獸世界</span><span class="push-right">38F 12/31 00:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iors0330</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:版標破梗啦!!</span><span class="push-right">39F 12/31 00:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kabaero</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">40F 12/31 00:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">witness0828</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:W(ㄇㄛˊ)O(ㄕㄡˋ)W(ㄕˋㄐㄧㄝˋ)</span><span class="push-right">41F 12/31 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">siaokun0203</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:===================多隆推太快沒加到等號===========</span><span class="push-right">42F 12/31 01:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">momomiya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">43F 12/31 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">erobernsie</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">44F 12/31 02:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">XDboy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:======多大人表示:專業電影翻譯應該不會這樣 是字幕組======</span><span class="push-right">45F 12/31 02:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shintz</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">46F 12/31 02:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ma713</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">47F 12/31 02:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">eak</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我以為板標是要呼應今天跨年勒..想說怎麼那麼感人</span><span class="push-right">48F 12/31 08:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FelReaver</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:魔獸世界XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">49F 12/31 09:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">neawen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">50F 12/31 10:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">alexamm</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:魔獸(WOW) 傑克, 這真是太神奇了</span><span class="push-right">51F 12/31 10:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ccl007</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:字幕組:我濕了~我看到這個居然濕了~牙敗~~</span><span class="push-right">52F 12/31 13:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">poiu1234</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD 哪部電影</span><span class="push-right">53F 12/31 13:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chenglian</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上上那個應該是木村海賊王猜題第2集</span><span class="push-right">54F 12/31 15:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">oue</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這字幕組太神了吧~XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">55F 12/31 17:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eric1999ty</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:唐伯虎點秋香</span><span class="push-right">56F 12/31 17:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">egg123</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:什麼電影xdddddddddddddddd</span><span class="push-right">57F 12/31 19:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nanocing</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:下面站起來了(understand)。</span><span class="push-right">58F 01/01 14:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">robinwillfly</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:A and A, B andB, C and C</span><span class="push-right">59F 01/01 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">stab22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實上面有人猜對了,我想我還是來補個圖好了</span><span class="push-right">60F 01/01 23:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">stab22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很多人應該看到圖片就知道是哪一部了吧..</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">stab22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://img529.imageshack.us/i/20110101224254.jpg/" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="592" data-ori_h="320" style="width:592px;height:320px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6734/20110101224254.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">stab22</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:長度沒超過,沒縮網址沒關係吧..?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shiungk</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:電影是舞力全開?</span><span class="push-right">64F 01/02 01:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:花惹發!!!!!!!!!!!(╯ˋ皿ˊ)╯︵ ┴─┴ xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">65F 01/02 08:40</span></div>
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howar31
[轉寄] Re: [討論] CR-48 邀請信
http://disp.cc/b/191-X2R
2010-12-29T13:25:03+08:00
2010-12-29T13:25:03+08:00
今天早上起來,又收到一封信 不過這封信不是Google來的
是美國代收轉寄服務商SpearNet寄來的:
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您好!親愛的Howar31先生/女士 [會員編號***]
您的包裹已經送達我們美國倉儲中心。
[包裹編號]:1**5
[貨物到達日期]:
[商品内容]:2**6
[商品重量]:2.8 kg
[運費及服務費]:$ 54
運費:$46
服務費:$8
總計:$54
[您的商品]:
CR48
Priceless
This is the test model CR48 from Google for the
Pilot user project. Pilot users are selected by
Google and given this test model CR48.
未結算的商品無法進行寄送,請至下列網址進行商品信息的確認,並完成付款。
https://spearnet.tw/move/shippment.php?date=20101215&detail_id=1345&spearid=2456
當我們確認收到您的匯款之後,會盡快將商品寄出。
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他說我 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Howar31 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (howar31.bbs@ptt.cc)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉寄] Re: [討論] CR-48 邀請信<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2010年12月29日 Wed. PM 01:25:03</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Google </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (影紫‧歐人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [討論] You're eligible to receive a free Ch …<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Dec 16 09:06:50 2010</div><hr color="#008080" />
今天早上起來,又收到一封信 不過這封信不是Google來的
是美國代收轉寄服務商SpearNet寄來的:
==
您好!親愛的Howar31先生/女士 [會員編號***]
您的包裹已經送達我們美國倉儲中心。
[包裹編號]:1**5
[貨物到達日期]:
[商品内容]:2**6
[商品重量]:2.8 kg
[運費及服務費]:$ 54
運費:$46
服務費:$8
總計:$54
[您的商品]:
CR48
Priceless
This is the test model CR48 from Google for the
Pilot user project. Pilot users are selected by
Google and given this test model CR48.
未結算的商品無法進行寄送,請至下列網址進行商品信息的確認,並完成付款。
<a href="https://spearnet.tw/move/shippment.php?date=20101215&detail_id=1345&spearid=2456" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://spearnet.tw/move/shippment.php?date=20101215&detail_id=1345&spearid=2456</a>
當我們確認收到您的匯款之後,會盡快將商品寄出。
==
他說我的CR48已經到他們美國倉庫了 現在要我確認並繳款後就會把他轉寄回台灣
<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#000">這 是 真 的 還 假 的 ?!</span></span>
我沒有收到Google通知說我有中獎CR48 所以興奮中有點懷疑囧
懷疑的點第一是Google沒有通知我 但板上有人說已經收到的人也沒接過通知
第二是這封信沒有貨物到達日期...我已經寄信回去問了@@"
另外想請問有人用過這家代收公司SpearNet的服務嗎?
官網 <a href="http://www.spearnet.tw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.spearnet.tw/</a>
不知道信譽、效率和服務態度怎麼樣
==
太酷了?! Google竟然挑選我?!
希望早日收到CR48~ :D
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順代一提 今日Google Logo是珍奧斯汀誕辰235週年紀念:)
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啊對了 CR48的重量真的是2.8Kg嗎?......</span><span class="push-right">1F 12/16 09:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">TooHuman</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真好,我填資料都沒回應...</span><span class="push-right">2F 12/16 10:22</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">TooHuman</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這家朋友以前買國外東西時有用過,運費貴了一點就是了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">darkgerm</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好強大!</span><span class="push-right">4F 12/16 10:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得USD$54買一台Google筆電還算划算:P</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/16 12:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以SpearNet不會把我的CR48黑掉吼?...囧rzzzzz</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">homelife</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哇~恭喜! 所以原po是直接填台灣地址囉?</span><span class="push-right">7F 12/16 18:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">TooHuman</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:收到借我玩XD</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/16 19:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔不是 我用SpearNet他會給我一個美國地址 東西寄過去會先</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/16 21:22</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:到他們美國倉儲中心 繳了運費他們才會轉寄回台灣</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">sunnypeng</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是真的嗎@@?</span><span class="push-right">11F 12/17 05:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:炫耀文 QQ</span><span class="push-right">12F 12/17 06:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我大概今晚會刷信用卡 是不是真的五天後就知道囉@@"~</span><span class="push-right">13F 12/17 06:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我今天收到了 XDD</span><span class="push-right">14F 12/17 11:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上也收到CR48?轉寄公司?</span><span class="push-right">15F 12/17 21:05</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恭喜你 XD 我不用轉寄因為我在美國</span><span class="push-right">16F 12/17 21:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kabaism</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果有中獎,google會通知你嗎?我還沒跟代收朋友說ㄟ</span><span class="push-right">17F 12/18 02:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不會通知的 直接寄出...</span><span class="push-right">18F 12/18 04:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啊...不會通知喔...很多人都一早起床開門就踢到CR48...xD</span><span class="push-right">19F 12/18 08:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來蛋大在美國!@Q@</span></div>
您好!親愛的Howar31先生/女士 [會員編號]
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早上看到這封信 俺的CR48上路了!@Q@
信用卡也扣款了 總計新台幣1645元
(原來現在台美匯率只有30.463......)
估計聖誕節會到我家~ 喔~聖誕禮物>/////<
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺這次Google送很多耶@@ 好多人拿到</span><span class="push-right">21F 12/18 08:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恭喜要拿到了 XD 記得好像是5萬台?</span><span class="push-right">22F 12/18 12:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔我上網查說是六萬台 不過Google使用者這麼多我拿到還是</span><span class="push-right">23F 12/18 19:53</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很驚喜:D</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD 他說會篩選 應該跟你提供的訊息有關.. 我也是特別講到</span><span class="push-right">25F 12/19 03:07</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">eggimage</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有在NB論壇當討論區管理 他們想找會測試及廣告的吧?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我沒有特別講什麼耶...我覺得他們不會真的一篇篇去看手寫</span><span class="push-right">27F 12/19 08:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:的那格 畢竟太多人了 可能剛好挑幾篇看吧 運氣運氣@@"</span></div>
哇哈!黑貓資料庫看到資料啦!
查詢網址 <a href="http://www.t-cat.com.tw/Inquire/Trace.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.t-cat.com.tw/Inquire/Trace.aspx</a>
貨物追蹤查詢號碼 2***3
目前狀態 已集貨
資料登入時間 2010/12/21 18:24
負責營業所 蘆竹營業所
配送人員 1***8
喔耶!應該這兩天就會送到我家啦:D
聖誕節禮物! \⊙▽⊙/
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:08:29 到平鎮了!!我家就在平鎮!!今晚應該可以玩了!!</span><span class="push-right">29F 12/22 10:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">shawncarter</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好羨慕.........</span><span class="push-right">30F 12/23 22:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:收到了!玩太爽到現在心得還沒生出來xDD</span><span class="push-right">31F 12/24 02:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:已經照了72張開箱照片共計214MB......orz</span></div>
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howar31
[轉寄][討論] CR-48 邀請信
http://disp.cc/b/191-X2Q
2010-12-29T13:25:03+08:00
2010-12-29T13:25:03+08:00
一早起來收到這封信:
Greetings,
A while back, you signed up to receive news, updates, and launch information
about Chrome and Chrome OS. We have good news: Chrome notebooks are here, and
you’re eligible to receive one!
Chrome notebooks are for people who live on the web and want a faster, safer
and more secure experience without all the headaches of ordinary computers.
To apply to get your Chrome notebook, please provide your US mailing address
by clicking the link below no later than Friday, December 10, ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Howar31 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (howar31.bbs@ptt.cc)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉寄][討論] CR-48 邀請信<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2010年12月29日 Wed. PM 01:25:03</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Google </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> howar31 (影紫‧歐人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [討論] You're eligible to receive a free Chrome notebook<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Dec 8 06:44:06 2010</div><hr color="#008080" />
一早起來收到這封信:
Greetings,
A while back, you signed up to receive news, updates, and launch information
about Chrome and Chrome OS. We have good news: Chrome notebooks are here, and
you’re eligible to receive one!
Chrome notebooks are for people who live on the web and want a faster, safer
and more secure experience without all the headaches of ordinary computers.
To apply to get your Chrome notebook, please provide your US mailing address
by clicking the link below no later than Friday, December 10, 2010 at 11:59
PM PST.
Request a Chrome notebook
Cheers,
The Chrome team
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郵件簽章和寄信人都是Google 應該不是假的
所以我就點了他裡面的連結看 點進去後是這頁
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啊啊現在就差一個美國地址呀!!QQ
好像不能寄到台灣怎麼辦?QQ
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有朋友也收到這信 啊啊我好激動啊!!</span><span class="push-right">1F 12/08 07:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">octobird</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GOOGLE只送給住美國的使用者測試和意見回饋而已</span><span class="push-right">2F 12/08 07:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fasthall</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也收到了!寄去女朋友老家!</span><span class="push-right">3F 12/08 08:23</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fasthall</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雖然他要US地址 不過申請頁國家有台灣選耶 哪個勇者要試</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Clementtang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:美國地址很簡單吧 一堆代收倉庫都有</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/08 08:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kewang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:收到+1 !!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">6F 12/08 10:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:填完了 發現他可能不是保證送囧 好像還要再挑選QQ</span><span class="push-right">7F 12/08 10:20</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:三樓交了美國女友唷= w =+</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kewang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:希望可以保證送!!!</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/08 10:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">delphinus</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那可填呢?</span><span class="push-right">10F 12/08 11:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">worldbig</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="https://services.google.com/fb/forms/cr48advanced/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://services.google.com/fb/forms/cr48advanced/</a></span><span class="push-right">11F 12/08 11:10</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">worldbig</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:google網上的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:話說就算他不送我等他上市我還是要買的www</span><span class="push-right">13F 12/08 12:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你的Chrome 如果沒有裝新分頁修改套件 也會看到提示</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">homelife</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也收到了,請問收到的各位之前有做過什麼登記之類的嗎?</span><span class="push-right">15F 12/08 13:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">homelife</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不太懂為什麼會收到,我什麼都沒做過阿@@ 雖然我超想要</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">howar31</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Google 看穿了你的心~ 一 v一 (誤</span><span class="push-right">17F 12/08 13:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">homelife</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Q_Q 該不會是所有有google帳號的人都有機會收到~?</span><span class="push-right">18F 12/08 14:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">JayReed</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我所有的gmail帳號都沒收到</span><span class="push-right">19F 12/08 14:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">delphinus</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:wb 謝謝 希望有機會 :p</span><span class="push-right">20F 12/08 14:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">zhadow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2424z94" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2424z94</a> 這邊就可以申請了</span><span class="push-right">21F 12/08 15:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">zhadow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:限定美國,google會進行挑選,不是一定會給的.</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cg6445</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:f大,我是勇者所以我填了台灣送出資料了,雖然應該不會中XD</span><span class="push-right">23F 12/09 16:57</span></div>
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howar31
[轉寄] Re: [理工] [計組]-交大98-資聯
http://disp.cc/b/191-Uef
2010-12-16T13:32:02+08:00
2010-12-16T13:32:02+08:00
一、差不多,答案為Vitual。
二、aliasing 簡單來說就是可以經由兩個 virtual addr. 對應到一個相同的 physical
addr.,答案同上。
三、這種是cache型態不同所造成的不同,
共有三類:physical addressed、virtual addressed、
virtual index physical tagged。 ...]]>
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<span class="quote">: 請問 98交大計組第5題</span>
<span class="quote">: 5. (08%) Virtually addressed cache is accessed with a virtual address, while</span>
<span class="quote">: physically addressed cache is accessed with a physical address.</span>
<span class="quote">: (i)(2%) Which kind of cache takes the TLB out of normal cache access path,</span>
<span class="quote">: reducing cache latency?</span>
<span class="quote">: (ii)(2%) Which kind of cache has aliasing problem?</span>
<span class="quote">: (iii)(2%) Assume physically addressed cache is used, is it possible to have</span>
<span class="quote">: TLB miss, but page table and cache hit for a data access?</span>
<span class="quote">: (iv)(2%) Assume virtually addressed cache is used, is it possible to have TLB</span>
<span class="quote">: miss, but page table and cache hit for a data access? Please explain your</span>
<span class="quote">: answer.</span>
<span class="quote">: 請問第一小題是問 用哪種方式mapping的cache嘛?</span>
<span class="quote">: 第二小題什麼是 aliasing problem?</span>
<span class="quote">: 第三跟第四小題考慮 physically addressed cache</span>
<span class="quote">: 跟 virtually addressed cache 這兩種有什麼不同嘛?</span>
<span class="quote">: 謝謝</span>
一、差不多,答案為Vitual。
二、aliasing 簡單來說就是可以經由兩個 virtual addr. 對應到一個相同的 physical
addr.,答案同上。
三、這種是cache型態不同所造成的不同,
共有三類:physical addressed、virtual addressed、
virtual index physical tagged。
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[轉寄][問題] 98交大 計組
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2010-12-16T13:32:02+08:00
2010-12-16T13:32:02+08:00
第一題的ii
j loop這machine code是什麼?
8000 4000h add...
loop beq...
...
j loop
...
8000 4000h這已經是十六進位了嗎?
loop這指令在8000 4004h
opcode有六個bit存2
剩下的26個bit要怎麼轉換呢@@~
麻煩了 謝謝:)
8 0 0 0 4 0 0 4
8000 4004h => 1000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0100
位址存入指令要除4
也就是右移兩bit??
1110 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 0001
存入時是取26位就好了嗎??@@~
OP address
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第一題的ii
j loop這machine code是什麼?
8000 4000h add...
loop beq...
...
j loop
...
8000 4000h這已經是十六進位了嗎?
loop這指令在8000 4004h
opcode有六個bit存2
剩下的26個bit要怎麼轉換呢@@~
麻煩了 謝謝:)
8 0 0 0 4 0 0 4
8000 4004h => 1000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0000 0000 0100
位址存入指令要除4
也就是右移兩bit??
1110 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 0001
存入時是取26位就好了嗎??@@~
OP address
000010 00 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000 0001
所以變成 0800 1001 h
這樣嗎@@~~~
有點搞亂了.....XD
可以詳細點說明一下嗎...:)
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nowar100</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:| opcode(6) | addr(26) | addr記得除以4 這是J-type</span><span class="push-right">1F 03/21 11:52</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nowar100</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有h結尾就是hex十六進位的意思 這樣你就知道怎麼做啦</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nowar100</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:80004004h共32bit 除以4就變30bit 課本有說過opcode所佔</span></div>
@@~除以4變30bit??
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nowar100</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用到的地方忽略掉 也就是說30要放到26bit裡面 頭忽略</span><span class="push-right">4F 03/21 11:56</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nowar100</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有錯請指正</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nowar100</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我的意思就是現在你寫的這樣</span><span class="push-right">6F 03/21 13:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ggLer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嗯嗯~~謝謝你:)</span><span class="push-right">7F 03/21 13:23</span></div>
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howar31
[轉寄][問題] 98交大計組第三題
http://disp.cc/b/191-Ued
2010-12-16T13:32:02+08:00
2010-12-16T13:32:02+08:00
Atwo-way set associative cache with 2-word blocks and
a total size of 16 words. (using LRU replacement)
假設 word address : 16
binary address: 010000
則 他的 block address 為多少?
tag 跟 index 又是幾bit呢??? ...]]>
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Atwo-way set associative cache with 2-word blocks and
a total size of 16 words. (using LRU replacement)
假設 word address : 16
binary address: 010000
則 他的 block address 為多少?
tag 跟 index 又是幾bit呢???
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ssccg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:1 bit offset in block,block address = 01000</span><span class="push-right">1F 03/18 13:48</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ssccg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:16 words → 8 blocks → 4 set,所以index為2 bit</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ksix</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:block offset 1 bit,block address 0100,index 00,tag 01</span><span class="push-right">3F 03/18 13:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ssccg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:5 bit address減掉index 2 bit,所以3 bit tag</span><span class="push-right">4F 03/18 13:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">ksix</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:打錯,block address 01000,index 00, tag 010</span><span class="push-right">5F 03/18 13:49</span></div>
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