Disp BBS - P_qman 板
Qman 的個人看版
http://disp.cc/b/P_qman
2023-09-12T02:20:01Z
Cheney72
小弟也不太會說話,也是不久前才開始喝茶了解
http://disp.cc/b/25-gtNt
2023-09-12T02:08:28+08:00
2023-09-12T02:08:28+08:00
小弟也不太會說話,也是不久前才開始喝茶了解
去年有認識一個茶姐 到現在還在配合
有不錯看的 有讓我失望的
只是整體算下來 是還不錯的
有凹優惠 有遇到特殊服務 偶爾加小費
玩後門 內射這些 私下妹給的福利而已
想說有認識這麼久 也配合了 不會點數詐騙就醬
如果還沒有找到這方面的大大們 是可以去試試看的
至少 會用心幫你安排 不會隨意的敷衍
認識這麼久 感覺是這樣的
小弟推薦茉莉姐給你認識 留個想法tg525
說是BBS的小陳推薦 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Cheney72 (一版呆呆)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 小弟也不太會說話,也是不久前才開始喝茶了解<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2023-09-12 Tue. 02:08:28</div><hr color="#008080" />
小弟也不太會說話,也是不久前才開始喝茶了解
去年有認識一個茶姐 到現在還在配合
有不錯看的 有讓我失望的
只是整體算下來 是還不錯的
有凹優惠 有遇到特殊服務 偶爾加小費
玩後門 內射這些 私下妹給的福利而已
想說有認識這麼久 也配合了 不會點數詐騙就醬
如果還沒有找到這方面的大大們 是可以去試試看的
至少 會用心幫你安排 不會隨意的敷衍
認識這麼久 感覺是這樣的
小弟推薦茉莉姐給你認識 留個想法tg525
說是BBS的小陳推薦
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Cheney72 時間: 2023-09-12 02:08:28 (台灣)</span></div></pre>
an99100
請問這樣是奧房客嗎?
http://disp.cc/b/25-bulI
2019-06-25T20:01:32+08:00
2019-06-25T20:01:32+08:00
各位好,第一次在這個板發文
主要是現在住的套房桌椅發現不適合自己的身高,用起來很不舒服,所以有在網路上找傢具
目前卡的點是說,我想要換掉現在套房的桌椅,新桌椅當然是自己搬自己出錢跟收貨物,然後想請房東把舊傢具帶走,可是怕這樣提出會讓房東覺得我是奧客
不知道各位見解如何? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> an99100 (夏雅)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 請問這樣是奧房客嗎?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2019-06-25 Tue. 20:00:33</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
各位好,第一次在這個板發文
主要是現在住的套房桌椅發現不適合自己的身高,用起來很不舒服,所以有在網路上找傢具
<div class="long_string">目前卡的點是說,我想要換掉現在套房的桌椅,新桌椅當然是自己搬自己出錢跟收貨物,然後想請房東把舊傢具帶走,可是怕這樣提出會讓房東覺得我是奧客</div>
不知道各位見解如何?
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<span class="record">※ 作者: an99100 時間: 2019-06-25 20:00:33</span></div></pre>
ss0989312095
有人能幫忙找人嗎
http://disp.cc/b/25-bfyY
2019-03-20T17:46:23+08:00
2019-03-20T17:46:23+08:00
有位小學同學,想找他,可是他應該換了號碼,臨時也沒有人知道該怎麼辦 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> ss0989312095 (Yu)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 有人能幫忙找人嗎<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2019-03-20 Wed. 17:47:07</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
有位小學同學,想找他,可是他應該換了號碼,臨時也沒有人知道該怎麼辦
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<span class="record">※ 作者: ss0989312095 時間: 2019-03-20 17:47:07</span></div></pre>
xpress1234
什麼行業需要大量螺絲
http://disp.cc/b/25-aOH3
2018-09-06T22:11:39+08:00
2018-09-06T22:11:39+08:00
最近公司(螺絲產業)開發新的內銷客戶,但卻不知道要往哪個方向著手! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> xpress1234 (新使用者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 什麼行業需要大量螺絲<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-09-06 Thu. 22:10:25</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
最近公司(螺絲產業)開發新的內銷客戶,但卻不知道要往哪個方向著手!
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<span class="record">※ 作者: xpress1234 時間: 2018-09-06 22:10:25</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ezdu76</span><span style="color:#808000">:找會結巴的人吧。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aa035779245</span><span style="color:#808000">:我就是會結巴的人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ricx1</span><span style="color:#808000">:製造業。</span></div></pre>
Phoebe83613
麥X勞不能外送???
http://disp.cc/b/25-aObD
2018-09-02T11:46:44+08:00
2018-09-02T11:46:44+08:00
上個月底我跟我男友要叫麥X勞外送
接電話的人員花了快10分鐘的時間問問題加打資料查資料
最後卻說我們宜蘭縣五結不外送?
為什麼五結不外送?真的不外送嗎? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Phoebe83613 (勳)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 麥X勞不能外送???<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-09-02 Sun. 11:47:19</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
上個月底我跟我男友要叫麥X勞外送
接電話的人員花了快10分鐘的時間問問題加打資料查資料
最後卻說我們宜蘭縣五結不外送?
為什麼五結不外送?真的不外送嗎?
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Phoebe83613 時間: 2018-09-02 11:47:19</span></div></pre>
teitoku11406
問 國巨公司上班真的OK?
http://disp.cc/b/25-aD7H
2018-05-22T17:41:23+08:00
2018-05-22T17:41:23+08:00
最近要上大學,有到國巨當員工的機會,正職員工 晚上上進修部
爬了很多文章看到大家對於國巨的評價都不是很好,小弟看到心也慌慌,但還是想來問問各位有經驗的大佬。
選擇這樣的方式上班真的沒問題嗎?還是自己去外面找工作會更好? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> teitoku11406 (teitoku11406)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 問 國巨公司上班真的OK?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-05-22 Tue. 17:41:12</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
最近要上大學,有到國巨當員工的機會,正職員工 晚上上進修部
爬了很多文章看到大家對於國巨的評價都不是很好,小弟看到心也慌慌,但還是想來問問各位有經驗的大佬。
選擇這樣的方式上班真的沒問題嗎?還是自己去外面找工作會更好?
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<span class="record">※ 作者: teitoku11406 時間: 2018-05-22 17:41:12</span></div></pre>
kkciee0831
徵臨時工讀生
http://disp.cc/b/25-ambq
2017-12-03T18:09:15+08:00
2017-12-03T18:09:15+08:00
上班日期:107/01/30-107/02/15
上班時間:AM:5:00-17:00(下班時間會些許調整)
上班薪水:150/1H
上班地點:中壢區五族街28號(中壢謹發水果行)
聯絡人:胡燕蓉
聯絡電話:0977303145 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> kkciee0831 (燕蓉)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 徵臨時工讀生<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-12-03 Sun. 18:09:06</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
上班日期:107/01/30-107/02/15
上班時間:AM:5:00-17:00(下班時間會些許調整)
上班薪水:150/1H
上班地點:中壢區五族街28號(中壢謹發水果行)
聯絡人:胡燕蓉
聯絡電話:0977303145
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<span class="record">※ 作者: kkciee0831 時間: 2017-12-03 18:09:06</span></div></pre>
kkciee0831
徵臨時工讀生
http://disp.cc/b/25-ambp
2017-12-03T18:08:26+08:00
2017-12-03T18:08:26+08:00
上班日期:107/01/30-107/02/15
上班時間:AM:5:00-17:00(下班時間會些許調整)
上班薪水:150/1H
上班地點:中壢區五族街28號(中壢謹發水果行)
聯絡人:胡燕蓉
聯絡電話:0977303145 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> kkciee0831 (燕蓉)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 徵臨時工讀生<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-12-03 Sun. 18:08:17</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
上班日期:107/01/30-107/02/15
上班時間:AM:5:00-17:00(下班時間會些許調整)
上班薪水:150/1H
上班地點:中壢區五族街28號(中壢謹發水果行)
聯絡人:胡燕蓉
聯絡電話:0977303145
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<span class="record">※ 作者: kkciee0831 時間: 2017-12-03 18:08:17</span></div></pre>
terry80213
請各位大大幫忙小弟 幫我們比賽團隊按個讚 支持我們的科技創新 謝謝~
http://disp.cc/b/25-agrp
2017-10-01T04:35:58+08:00
2017-10-01T04:35:58+08:00
這是我們的比賽影片, 需要各位大大們花一點時間進去按個讚, 謝謝你們的幫助哦! 小弟由衷感謝~~
https://www.facebook.com/1516927645267380/videos/1778494479110694/ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> terry80213 (拿鐵)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 請各位大大幫忙小弟 幫我們比賽團隊按個讚 支持我們的科技創新 謝謝~<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-10-01 Sun. 04:36:00</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
這是我們的比賽影片, 需要各位大大們花一點時間進去按個讚, 謝謝你們的幫助哦! 小弟由衷感謝~~
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/1516927645267380/videos/1778494479110694/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/1516927645267380/videos/1778494479110694/</a>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: terry80213 時間: 2017-10-01 04:36:00</span></div></pre>
myrna124
我的哥哥都25歲了還一直待在家怎麼辦
http://disp.cc/b/25-afOc
2017-09-24T21:40:42+08:00
2017-09-24T21:40:42+08:00
我哥現在都已經25歲了,上大學上到沒畢業,沒畢業就算了還沒當兵和工作,在家裡玩手機電腦看電視吃飯睡覺,每天都重複一樣的生活過了2年多了
而在這兩年多中媽跟爸每過一段時間勸他去工作但他還是一樣不聽也還會嗆回去
目前我還只是學生,每次爸去勸我哥時都像吵架一樣互相都用吼的,發生時我其實很害怕不敢去看他們都躲在自己的房間裡直到吵完結束,不管講多少他也還是待在家裡不肯出門去找工作,他出門也只有為了買食物
最近我有去問他你想做甚麼工作,但他不講,我有講出我以後想做的工作給他聽但他還是一樣不講還嫌我煩,不管我講多少次都說我很吵很煩你問這個幹嘛跟有你什麼事,怎麼可能沒跟我有事,都因為他在家都不去工作造成爸媽的負擔跟困擾,每次你們吵架時我哪能忍受的了,都很怕會出事,能不擔心嗎?
整天都在家裡也都把自己的身體給養胖了,叫他去外面溜狗散步,卻回我你不會去溜喔,連去散步都不要
他到底要怎樣才能去外面工作,不然去外面學些技能也好不要一直在家耍廢了 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> myrna124 (Amskf)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 我的哥哥都25歲了還一直待在家怎麼辦<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-09-24 Sun. 21:40:58</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
我哥現在都已經25歲了,上大學上到沒畢業,沒畢業就算了還沒當兵和工作,在家裡玩手機電腦看電視吃飯睡覺,每天都重複一樣的生活過了2年多了
而在這兩年多中媽跟爸每過一段時間勸他去工作但他還是一樣不聽也還會嗆回去
<div class="long_string">目前我還只是學生,每次爸去勸我哥時都像吵架一樣互相都用吼的,發生時我其實很害怕不敢去看他們都躲在自己的房間裡直到吵完結束,不管講多少他也還是待在家裡不肯出門去找工作,他出門也只有為了買食物</div>
<div class="long_string">最近我有去問他你想做甚麼工作,但他不講,我有講出我以後想做的工作給他聽但他還是一樣不講還嫌我煩,不管我講多少次都說我很吵很煩你問這個幹嘛跟有你什麼事,怎麼可能沒跟我有事,都因為他在家都不去工作造成爸媽的負擔跟困擾,每次你們吵架時我哪能忍受的了,都很怕會出事,能不擔心嗎?</div>
整天都在家裡也都把自己的身體給養胖了,叫他去外面溜狗散步,卻回我你不會去溜喔,連去散步都不要
他到底要怎樣才能去外面工作,不然去外面學些技能也好不要一直在家耍廢了
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<span class="record">※ 作者: myrna124 時間: 2017-09-24 21:40:58</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">Seika</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實很多練的很強壯的人也一樣,內心越脆弱,外表越逞強。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sun1028</span><span style="color:#808000">:直接斷他經濟來源就行,網路什麼的都斷一斷~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在很多都是這樣</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:南森好像會被罵很慘</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:女森..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:我知道的也是晃晃晃..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:到30歲出頭..嫁人....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:男森就沒那麼好囉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">WiiJiachen</span><span style="color:#808000">:每天都重複一樣的生活過了2年多了----->標準廢物</span></div></pre>
Snoopy_90823
困擾
http://disp.cc/b/25-adar
2017-08-27T21:43:37+08:00
2017-08-27T21:55:27+08:00
要怎麼教一個國小二年級的小孩洗頭..?
他非常調皮,遇到困難就時常選擇放棄,常被大人說不聰明,常常做出一些很奇怪的事情讓人生氣。
要教他什麼事蠻困難,他坐不太住,而且很容易分心,像是要教他寫作業,他有錯字必須叫很多次 他才會理人然後走過來,寫一個字之後就說很累下一秒說要休息人又不見了。
一年級時試著教他洗頭,但是他很怕水,不敢低頭洗,所以想說讓他抬頭洗,但是他只要眼睛有弄到水就開始哭開始叫,讓他試了好一陣子後,他自動放棄繼續要求別人幫他洗頭..
之後要他試試看自己洗頭,他就開始哭不願意試.. ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Snoopy_90823 (Snoopy)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 困擾<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-08-27 Sun. 21:43:46</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
要怎麼教一個國小二年級的小孩洗頭..?
他非常調皮,遇到困難就時常選擇放棄,常被大人說不聰明,常常做出一些很奇怪的事情讓人生氣。
<div class="long_string">要教他什麼事蠻困難,他坐不太住,而且很容易分心,像是要教他寫作業,他有錯字必須叫很多次 他才會理人然後走過來,寫一個字之後就說很累下一秒說要休息人又不見了。</div>
<div class="long_string">一年級時試著教他洗頭,但是他很怕水,不敢低頭洗,所以想說讓他抬頭洗,但是他只要眼睛有弄到水就開始哭開始叫,讓他試了好一陣子後,他自動放棄繼續要求別人幫他洗頭..</div>
之後要他試試看自己洗頭,他就開始哭不願意試..
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Snoopy_90823 時間: 2017-08-27 21:43:46</span>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: Snoopy_90823 時間: 2017-08-27 21:55:36</span></div></pre>
ppp84919
(心情)人生好難
http://disp.cc/b/25-9U6O
2017-02-26T17:45:42+08:00
2017-02-26T17:45:42+08:00
“新手不知道該發在哪,請見諒”
前陣子離職後(算是非自願的自願離職)
大約過了兩個多月都找不到工作
也不是都沒有就業機會
只是狀況真的太多
家庭、自己都出事情
一堆事情都擠在同一時間
也沒有什麼人可以幫忙
這之間發生了太多自己差點承受不了的事情
被錢逼得死死的,沒有喘息的空間
我也找過很多比自己年長的哥哥姐姐
希望他們可以給我一點建議
也很謝謝他們願意聽我說
只是最近真的很不順
也受了好大的挫折
整個人快振作不起來了
我真的很想好好的過日子
好好照顧我爸媽
好想振作。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> ppp84919 (MöönYa★)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> (心情)人生好難<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-02-26 Sun. 17:45:38</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
“新手不知道該發在哪,請見諒”
前陣子離職後(算是非自願的自願離職)
大約過了兩個多月都找不到工作
也不是都沒有就業機會
只是狀況真的太多
家庭、自己都出事情
一堆事情都擠在同一時間
也沒有什麼人可以幫忙
這之間發生了太多自己差點承受不了的事情
被錢逼得死死的,沒有喘息的空間
我也找過很多比自己年長的哥哥姐姐
希望他們可以給我一點建議
也很謝謝他們願意聽我說
只是最近真的很不順
也受了好大的挫折
整個人快振作不起來了
我真的很想好好的過日子
好好照顧我爸媽
好想振作。
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<span class="record">※ 作者: ppp84919 時間: 2017-02-26 17:45:38</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:金錢的運用就是這樣</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:親兄弟有時都會為了錢而...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:加油!!</span></div></pre>
hanna2002
吵架
http://disp.cc/b/25-9RnS
2017-01-28T23:56:37+08:00
2017-01-29T00:04:30+08:00
跟朋友和不來
之前還很好
現在整個大翻臉…
我好想跟他合好…
但他就是不要
怎麼辦 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;">跟朋友和不來
之前還很好
現在整個大翻臉…
我好想跟他合好…
但他就是不要
怎麼辦
<span class="record">※ 編輯: hanna2002 時間: 2017-01-29 00:04:30</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">somewhy530</span><span style="color:#808000">:合不來就先冷卻啊!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kikimoo</span><span style="color:#808000">:看值不值得,不值得不要勉強自己,加油~</span></div></pre>
pepper0609
(免費占卜)工作/感情/運勢
http://disp.cc/b/25-9zcT
2016-08-16T00:47:05+08:00
2016-08-16T00:47:05+08:00
大家好,因為現階段我想多增加實務練習經驗,因此希望藉由這個平台徵求;工作或是感情等問題都可以發問喔不拘。很簡單,提供以下資料即可:
1.名字(如果是感情,有對象者也須一併提供)
2.出生年月日(如果是感情,有對象者也須一併提供)
Ps:1.透過站內信箱私訊,嚴守個人資料絕不公開或外流。
2.我會從來信的下方直接回覆,請留意
以上,教學相長 秉持真誠 謝謝! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> pepper0609 (pepper3136)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> (免費占卜)工作/感情/運勢<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2016-08-16 Tue. 00:47:05</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
大家好,因為現階段我想多增加實務練習經驗,因此希望藉由這個平台徵求;工作或是感情等問題都可以發問喔不拘。很簡單,提供以下資料即可:
1.名字(如果是感情,有對象者也須一併提供)
2.出生年月日(如果是感情,有對象者也須一併提供)
Ps:1.透過站內信箱私訊,嚴守個人資料絕不公開或外流。
2.我會從來信的下方直接回覆,請留意
以上,教學相長 秉持真誠 謝謝!
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<span class="record">※ 作者: pepper0609 時間: 2016-08-16 00:47:05</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lotuswed</span><span style="color:#808000">:謝順興,19650705午時生,求教事業。</span></div></pre>
ss1234111
真希望有人能夠陪我
http://disp.cc/b/25-9usp
2016-07-02T00:29:56+08:00
2016-07-02T00:29:56+08:00
不知道為什麼
自己雖然習慣一個人了
但是還是覺得一個人很可怕
很希望有人能陪我…… ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> ss1234111 (裘裘的球球)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 真希望有人能夠陪我<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2016-07-02 Sat. 00:29:56</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
不知道為什麼
自己雖然習慣一個人了
但是還是覺得一個人很可怕
很希望有人能陪我……
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<span class="record">※ 作者: ss1234111 時間: 2016-07-02 00:29:56</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gcfans</span><span style="color:#808000">:你應該還是學生吧 找對象還是從自己同學下手吧 網路風險太高</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ntihs</span><span style="color:#808000">:快回火星吧,地球很危險的~ 去O2版晃晃,應該會有收穫。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:有時會有這同感@@</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">joe66615</span><span style="color:#808000">:有人在嗎</span></div></pre>
Rabbit7744
女人心情
http://disp.cc/b/25-9t2h
2016-06-19T20:45:13+08:00
2016-06-19T20:45:13+08:00
漸漸的你會發現,不是所的人都適合讓你去分享成功的喜悅:
有的埋怨你炫耀、有的妒忌、有的不屑,所以我們都慢慢變得謙虛起來;
到最後,那些能讓你毫無保留地分享驕傲的心情的人,那些在你得意忘形時也不會反感而帶著微笑的人,才是你最重要的人。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Rabbit7744 (鵵小咩)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 女人心情<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2016-06-19 Sun. 20:45:12</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
漸漸的你會發現,不是所的人都適合讓你去分享成功的喜悅:
有的埋怨你炫耀、有的妒忌、有的不屑,所以我們都慢慢變得謙虛起來;
到最後,那些能讓你毫無保留地分享驕傲的心情的人,那些在你得意忘形時也不會反感而帶著微笑的人,才是你最重要的人。
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Rabbit7744 時間: 2016-06-19 20:45:12</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gcfans</span><span style="color:#808000">:有些人就是會見不得別人好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣的朋友一生當中有幾個知己就夠了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:但~隨著年齡的增長</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:總是會成家立業</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:有時相聚的時間也不多</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adddd147</span><span style="color:#808000">:珍惜當下</span></div></pre>
s8012531
(心情)長越大,心靈越脆弱
http://disp.cc/b/25-9dEl
2016-01-30T14:09:02+08:00
2016-01-30T14:09:02+08:00
小時候,好像沒有這種困擾,
最近會覺的世界怎麼了,我要怎麼做
人與人跟的隔閡好大,我不知道怎麼跨越
好像沒有什麼朋友,我知道朋友不用多,
只要懂你,但有時候真的好孤單。
我也知道很多人都這樣,但他們都堅強了
我不想當沒有抗壓性的人,我不想當脆弱的人,我不想要這樣。
請給我建議,雖然我明白,最後總要面對
我想讓心靈強壯,請給我建議,拜託謝謝 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> s8012531 (阿毛)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> (心情)長越大,心靈越脆弱<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2016-01-30 Sat. 14:09:02</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
小時候,好像沒有這種困擾,
最近會覺的世界怎麼了,我要怎麼做
人與人跟的隔閡好大,我不知道怎麼跨越
好像沒有什麼朋友,我知道朋友不用多,
只要懂你,但有時候真的好孤單。
我也知道很多人都這樣,但他們都堅強了
我不想當沒有抗壓性的人,我不想當脆弱的人,我不想要這樣。
請給我建議,雖然我明白,最後總要面對
我想讓心靈強壯,請給我建議,拜託謝謝
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<span class="record">※ 作者: s8012531 時間: 2016-01-30 14:09:02</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">killer21419</span><span style="color:#808000">:請服用 危險心靈 (作者 侯文詠)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cyaos</span><span style="color:#808000">:當個脆弱的人也不會怎樣,個性太剛強不容易有朋友。心靈的強壯需要練習,先從簡單的做起。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">april2014hsu</span><span style="color:#808000">:多試著接受多方面的打擊.壓力.批評,經過慢長的人生歷練,人的心靈就會更強壯更堅強更堅韌!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ss1234111</span><span style="color:#808000">:有同感</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kikimoo</span><span style="color:#808000">:人不是都這樣 被迫長大嗎</span></div></pre>
jk54eric
誰對遊戲開發軟體Unity有興趣?
http://disp.cc/b/25-9d4l
2016-01-25T15:16:39+08:00
2016-01-25T15:16:39+08:00
本文屬於個人,無關公司
第一次發文,請各大大留情,幫我宣傳
因為個人眼睛最近動了雷射眼睛手術
往後不會在做遊戲相關產業
在去年大約6月在赫綵電腦設計學院報名了一門Unity遊戲開發課程
現在本人出售這堂課程
課程名稱:Unity遊戲開發
價格:原價68000只要48000,可議價
上課地點:目前有板橋、台北車站、東區(請看官網地址http://www.appedu.com.tw/)
請儘速聯絡我喔~~~~ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> jk54eric (+11鎧甲)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 誰對遊戲開發軟體Unity有興趣?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2016-01-25 Mon. 15:16:39</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<span style="color:#F00000">本文屬於個人,無關公司</span>
第一次發文,請各大大留情,幫我宣傳
因為個人眼睛最近動了雷射眼睛手術
往後不會在做遊戲相關產業
在去年大約6月在<span style="color:#0000F0">赫綵電腦設計學院</span>報名了一門Unity遊戲開發課程
現在本人出售這堂課程
課程名稱:Unity遊戲開發
價格:<span style="color:#00F000"><s>原價68000</s></span><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">只要48000</span></span>,<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">可議價</span></span>
上課地點:目前有板橋、台北車站、東區(<span class="fgR1 bgP">請看官網地址<a href="http://www.appedu.com.tw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.appedu.com.tw/</a></span>)
請儘速聯絡我喔~~~~
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<span class="record">※ 作者: jk54eric 時間: 2016-01-25 15:16:39</span></div></pre>
az23746950
.
http://disp.cc/b/25-8W52
2015-09-01T21:42:54+08:00
2015-09-01T21:42:54+08:00
我想要有力量 ...]]>
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我想要有力量
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zzhang14
真的希望有人能和我說話
http://disp.cc/b/25-8UOx
2015-08-22T01:40:30+08:00
2015-08-22T01:40:30+08:00
至從離婚後到現在(4年) 心情從未好過 為什麼都是針對我而已 難道她對我做的事情 都是對的嗎?
已經快沒辦法在這樣下去 無形的壓力讓我喘不過來 也許離開是唯一的解脫
也許是對自己和家人不負責 但是這樣或許會比較好。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> zzhang14 (新使用者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 真的希望有人能和我說話<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-08-22 Sat. 01:40:30</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
至從離婚後到現在(4年) 心情從未好過 為什麼都是針對我而已 難道她對我做的事情 都是對的嗎?
已經快沒辦法在這樣下去 無形的壓力讓我喘不過來 也許離開是唯一的解脫
也許是對自己和家人不負責 但是這樣或許會比較好。
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<span class="record">※ 作者: zzhang14 時間: 2015-08-22 01:40:30</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">K0989727</span><span style="color:#808000">:振作點人生不是因為困境而放棄</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">keyt99130</span><span style="color:#808000">:你還有生命啊</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">dandebear</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒頭沒尾的也不知道你發生什麼事,問題再哪裡,不過小弟是基督徒,偶爾會幫忙教會做事工,真正去接觸後才知道所謂家家有本難唸的經是什麼意思,重症,家暴,負債,還有三個願望一次滿足的,看了真的很唏噓,我只能希望你放輕鬆,把所有事情再理過一遍,該丟的就丟,該面對的就面對,加油吧。最後讓我打個廣告,上帝是愛你的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">c1h0e1n043</span><span style="color:#808000">:離開沒有比較好,向前看才是正確的選擇啊</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kikimoo</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果離開都不怕了,還有什麼好怕的?</span></div></pre>
princismo
[分享] 頂尖的學生都做這23件事
http://disp.cc/b/25-8OqI
2015-07-05T12:05:50+08:00
2015-07-05T12:05:50+08:00
1. 他們不總是在做作業
2. 他們永不讀完教科書
3. 他們Google每件事
4. 他們頻繁的測試他們自己
5. 他們在短時間內研究,而不做長時間的馬拉松
6. 他們用逆向工程解決的問題。
7. 他們沒有自己的螢光筆。
8. 他們睡很多
9. 他們藉由問問題來參與
10.他們在聽講時做到最好。
11. 他們過度學習
12.他們立即研究他們的考試失誤。
13.他們忙於工作和側面項目。
14.他們把上課聽講當作一個偵探的任務。
15. 他們不等待動機消失
16.他們在考試的條件下做練習。
17.他們使用舊的試題。
18.他們製作自己的學習指南。
19.他們實際上記錄在紙上。
20.他們使用80/20法則。
21.他們不抱怨
22.他們邊做邊學。
23. 他們把學習材料當作個人責任。
原文網址:http://goo.gl/XfdYrx
頂尖的學生都做這23件事
他們總能抓住你的眼球。他們考試回來,就只犯了幾個錯誤,取得好成績。
的確,我將談論頂尖的學生,他們究竟是怎麼辦到的呢?
我們不知道的是,在表面下有積極的生活習慣和思維方式,使的這人在課堂上表現的如此成功。不只是少數,許多習慣的結合 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> princismo (新使用者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [分享] 頂尖的學生都做這23件事<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-07-05 Sun. 12:05:49</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
1. 他們不總是在做作業
2. 他們永不讀完教科書
3. 他們Google每件事
4. 他們頻繁的測試他們自己
5. 他們在短時間內研究,而不做長時間的馬拉松
6. 他們用逆向工程解決的問題。
7. 他們沒有自己的螢光筆。
8. 他們睡很多
9. 他們藉由問問題來參與
10.他們在聽講時做到最好。
11. 他們過度學習
12.他們立即研究他們的考試失誤。
13.他們忙於工作和側面項目。
14.他們把上課聽講當作一個偵探的任務。
15. 他們不等待動機消失
16.他們在考試的條件下做練習。
17.他們使用舊的試題。
18.他們製作自己的學習指南。
19.他們實際上記錄在紙上。
20.他們使用80/20法則。
21.他們不抱怨
22.他們邊做邊學。
23. 他們把學習材料當作個人責任。
原文網址:<a href="http://goo.gl/XfdYrx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/XfdYrx</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://goo.gl/XfdYrx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>頂尖的學生都做這23件事</strong></a><div class="img" data-ori_w="960" data-ori_h="420" style="width:960px;height:420px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://img59.imagetwist.com/th/08969/f12s2ot3mipb.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>
他們總能抓住你的眼球。他們考試回來,就只犯了幾個錯誤,取得好成績。
的確,我將談論頂尖的學生,他們究竟是怎麼辦到的呢?
<div class="long_string">我們不知道的是,在表面下有積極的生活習慣和思維方式,使的這人在課堂上表現的如此成功。不只是少數,許多習慣的結合,能產出高層次的學術表現。</div>
這裡有頂尖學生的23個習慣,你可以在學校使用這些小技巧,讓你的學習更好。
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princismo
[分享] 10個高效率的方法讓你學習更快速
http://disp.cc/b/25-8OqH
2015-07-05T11:58:06+08:00
2015-07-05T11:58:06+08:00
1.分析你的學習方式。
2. 使用正確的教育輔助工具
3.訓練你的大腦接受新的信息。
4. 作一些運動
5. 良好的學習氣氛
6. 作很多筆記。
7. 製作心智圖
8. 用記憶方法實驗
9. 尋找正確的背景信息
10. 天天學習
原文網址:http://goo.gl/OQtW8n
10個高效率的方法讓你學習更快速[img=960,420]
http://img60.imagetwist.com/th/08971/6kmgl9c2j2ui.jpg[/img]
學習的重點是不能被低估。學習能帶給我們力量去完成我們的點子,並實現我們所有的潛能。獲得新知識的速度幾乎與它的規模是同等重要的。誰不愛盡可能地去記住萬噸信息呢?假如你想要開始快速的學習,你需要一個新方法朝向這個過程,讓你能夠了解問題的本質,並你會遇到的關於它的新觀念。下面的10個技巧可以幫助你做到這一點。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> princismo (新使用者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [分享] 10個高效率的方法讓你學習更快速<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-07-05 Sun. 11:58:06</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
1.分析你的學習方式。
2. 使用正確的教育輔助工具
3.訓練你的大腦接受新的信息。
4. 作一些運動
5. 良好的學習氣氛
6. 作很多筆記。
7. 製作心智圖
8. 用記憶方法實驗
9. 尋找正確的背景信息
10. 天天學習
原文網址:<a href="http://goo.gl/OQtW8n" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/OQtW8n</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://goo.gl/OQtW8n" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>10個高效率的方法讓你學習更快速</strong></a>[img=960,420]
<a href="http://img60.imagetwist.com/th/08971/6kmgl9c2j2ui.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://img60.imagetwist.com/th/08971/6kmgl9c2j2ui.jpg</a>[/img]
<div class="long_string">學習的重點是不能被低估。學習能帶給我們力量去完成我們的點子,並實現我們所有的潛能。獲得新知識的速度幾乎與它的規模是同等重要的。誰不愛盡可能地去記住萬噸信息呢?假如你想要開始快速的學習,你需要一個新方法朝向這個過程,讓你能夠了解問題的本質,並你會遇到的關於它的新觀念。下面的10個技巧可以幫助你做到這一點。</div>
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aaayami2015
詢問料理廚具,可以再哪裡購買?
http://disp.cc/b/25-8Gky
2015-05-09T05:24:02+08:00
2015-05-09T05:24:02+08:00
想詢問做料理時,使用的發泡鮮奶油虹吸瓶(whipping siphon)及虹吸瓶氧化氮氣彈,可以再哪裡購買的到?店面或是網路都可購買,但是網路上不想再淘寶網上購買,謝謝。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> aaayami2015 (尚愛迷漾)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 詢問料理廚具,可以再哪裡購買?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-05-09 Sat. 05:24:01</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="long_string">想詢問做料理時,使用的發泡鮮奶油虹吸瓶(whipping siphon)及虹吸瓶氧化氮氣彈,可以再哪裡購買的到?店面或是網路都可購買,但是網路上不想再淘寶網上購買,謝謝。</div>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: aaayami2015 時間: 2015-05-09 05:24:01</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">killer21419</span><span style="color:#808000">:黑暗料理界</span></div></pre>
cat1006
我的職務是,行政+倉管+會計,不知道您怎麼看?
http://disp.cc/b/25-8Bdh
2015-04-04T21:35:15+08:00
2015-04-04T21:35:15+08:00
hi 文可能會有點長
我22歲,我的公司是飾品包包零售業,總共有6間門市,
而辦公室只有老闆娘跟我一位職員,
工作內容就是會計+倉管+行政
也就是公司所有的大事到微不足道的小事都是我處理,
上班時間是早上10點到下午6點,
休假是周休二日,但有時要加班,是強迫加班,
如果拒絕,可能會受到責罵,內容就是:你完全不為公司著想、進貨那麼多、東西堆不下、就這樣自己放假、門市沒東西賣
雖然我從來沒有拒絕過,
因為有時會叫門市人員來幫忙,所以我大概知道會被說成怎樣,
中間沒有休息時間,吃飯要自己找空檔出去買,
阿,老闆娘的午餐也是我負責出去買,一定要在規定的時間裡買回來,
否則老闆可能會爆炸..
我,國立高職畢業,也沒有在升學,在這份工作之前,工作幾乎都是服務業,
沒有會計實務經驗,在面試時也說得非常清楚,
但我自認為我真的很努力,在我進去前,總共有3個人員,在7天內被打掉,
至今也半年了,對於這份工作的內容已經很了解。
打掃整間辦公室,幫狗清大小便(老闆養的),幫主管買飯,所有的小事我都可以接受,
我覺得每份工作都有他辛苦的地方,
但,光公司line群組就有4個,
門市補貨、公司大小事群組..
...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cat1006 (Iris)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 我的職務是,行政+倉管+會計,不知道您怎麼看?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-04-04 Sat. 21:35:15</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
hi 文可能會有點長
我22歲,我的公司是飾品包包零售業,總共有6間門市,
而辦公室只有老闆娘跟我一位職員,
工作內容就是會計+倉管+行政
也就是公司所有的大事到微不足道的小事都是我處理,
上班時間是早上10點到下午6點,
休假是周休二日,但有時要加班,是強迫加班,
如果拒絕,可能會受到責罵,內容就是:你完全不為公司著想、進貨那麼多、東西堆不下、就這樣自己放假、門市沒東西賣
雖然我從來沒有拒絕過,
因為有時會叫門市人員來幫忙,所以我大概知道會被說成怎樣,
中間沒有休息時間,吃飯要自己找空檔出去買,
阿,老闆娘的午餐也是我負責出去買,一定要在規定的時間裡買回來,
否則老闆可能會爆炸..
我,國立高職畢業,也沒有在升學,在這份工作之前,工作幾乎都是服務業,
沒有會計實務經驗,在面試時也說得非常清楚,
但我自認為我真的很努力,在我進去前,總共有3個人員,在7天內被打掉,
至今也半年了,對於這份工作的內容已經很了解。
打掃整間辦公室,幫狗清大小便(老闆養的),幫主管買飯,所有的小事我都可以接受,
我覺得每份工作都有他辛苦的地方,
但,光公司line群組就有4個,
門市補貨、公司大小事群組..
每天每天每天我的line都看不完,回不完,
休假還是有一堆他媽的事情要回覆,要接收老闆的訊息
下了班還是一直叫叫叫,叫不停,
好像我隨時隨地都被壓住,都喘不過氣,
從以前到現在,飲料店、火鍋店、門市人員
沒請過半次假,病假、事假、什麼鬼經痛假,在飲料店,連出車禍都是手滴著血在泡飲料,
並不是要炫耀什麼,只是想說,
我很在乎、尊重,並且很努力在我每一份工作,每份工作都很辛苦,還有值得學習的地方,
最近,到了公司門口,總很想逃開,都在問自己,
是真的想做這份工作,然後一直一直做下去,不會後悔嗎?
但進公司之後,就會忘了這份想法,事情太多,不想擺爛,
還是很認真的做完每一天的工作,
所以就一直這樣,每天重複、重複。
然後,就在我不確定的連假第二天,收到了訊息,
問我星期一可不可以去加班,
我回了,星期一貨運應該沒上班吧,
主管說,對阿,所以不勉強。
所以就是有貨來,就是會勉強我..........
我真的!!!!!! 不知道要回什麼
進的貨每次都是幾千幾千樣在進,
從拆箱、點貨、編貨檔、入進貨、印標、做標、分貨到各門市、整理,
都是我一個人,現在,他完全不想叫門市來幫忙,
什麼門市來辦公室只會講話,不認真加班,
所以我就是活該阿!!!!!!!
然後做不完就加班,然後不可以拖到第二天才做完,
是不是要逼死我才甘願?
只要遇到這情況,真的讓我很不想做,不是不想加班,
要我做什麼工作,就算是會計+行政+倉管。
只是不想,好像永遠都是我一個人在孤軍奮戰。
連假過後,堆積如山的東西就在我面前!
如果是你們,會想繼續做下去嗎?
還是我想法有問題?
然後,我星期一到底要不要加班?!!!!!!
對了,薪水大概在24000左右,
找工作,對我來說的薪水不是第一重要的,
而是,工作環境。
有上網去看過,
台南好像沒有網拍+門市類的內勤工作,或是客服人員,
不然我覺得,我很好用阿,一定能勝任,哈哈哈哈哈哈
我知道很多人的工作都比我辛苦,打這篇文不是覺得,我辛苦、我好累、只有我不是人,
所以不要罵我,各位都辛苦了
謝謝你們看完
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">SmallBee</span><span style="color:#808000">:去找個新工作吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chou99</span><span style="color:#808000">:各行各業都有辛苦地方,地雷也很多!不過切記踩到地雷區不可怕,可怕的是還不逃離</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Pauling</span><span style="color:#808000">:找機會進修 跳脫 給自己一個新的學歷 不要在這點吃虧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a54871478</span><span style="color:#808000">:兩萬四這麼累 換個工作吧</span>
讚 JLion269:這樣的工作撐得住的話 以後創業也不是問題
→ <span style="color:#FF0">WildCard</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以他們的營業模式還有優缺點妳都學會了嗎?當然如果妳的志願是長工,你可以留下~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Rabbit7744</span><span style="color:#808000">:每份工作都很辛苦?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:這種不是薪水的關係</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:做得這麼不爽..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:是為了什麼?鍛鍊自己也可以開店??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果只是為了上班而已</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:勸你還是另外找個工作吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:我離職後.我的職務前公司找了兩個人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CtFrank</span><span style="color:#808000">:兩個人的薪資假起來還比我薪水X2還高..</span></div></pre>
smallqTarot.
[推薦] SmallQ自助塔羅解牌程式
http://disp.cc/b/25-8t5y
2015-02-03T23:51:02+08:00
2015-02-05T17:08:53+08:00
軟體名稱:
SmallQ自助塔羅解牌程式v1.3
軟體資訊:
基於Excel的試算表,目前在Excel2013請四個人測試過沒有問題。
軟體功能:
半自動的解牌程式,您需要抽取完手邊的塔羅牌,或是利用線上的抽牌程式得到牌陣結果
再依序輸入到試算表內即可得知SmallQ對此牌組的評分
軟體特色:
支援3~21張的任何牌陣,如果有任何輸入錯誤的地方會有提示訊息,應該還算夠傻瓜吧
官方網站:
有鑑於塔羅板板規,不得宣傳
下載連結:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9vbKrN7x5_qbEQzRjZVT1RxaTA/view?usp=sharing
SmallQ自助塔羅解牌程式v1.3公開檔.xlsx - Google 雲端硬碟
推薦原因:
我就是作者
希望大家比較急著解一個結果出來的人可以不要浪費等待占卜師解牌的時間
誰適合用:
如果您抽完手邊的牌或是使用線上程式抽牌後,不在意解牌過程只想知道「是」或是
「否」/「凶」或是「吉」的人,可時直接使用這個自助解牌程式快速獲得評分。
誰不適合用:
不相信塔羅牌的人。
抽完牌之後想要知道更多細節而不僅僅是評分的 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> smallqTarot (SmallQ)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [推薦] SmallQ自助塔羅解牌程式<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Feb 3 23:51:02 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span>
SmallQ自助塔羅解牌程式v1.3
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span>
基於Excel的試算表,目前在Excel2013請四個人測試過沒有問題。
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span>
半自動的解牌程式,您需要抽取完手邊的塔羅牌,或是利用線上的抽牌程式得到牌陣結果
再依序輸入到試算表內即可得知SmallQ對此牌組的評分
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span>
支援3~21張的任何牌陣,如果有任何輸入錯誤的地方會有提示訊息,應該還算夠傻瓜吧
<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span>
有鑑於塔羅板板規,不得宣傳
<span style="color:#00F000">下載連結:</span>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9vbKrN7x5_qbEQzRjZVT1RxaTA/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9vbKrN7x5_qbEQzRjZVT1RxaTA/view?usp=sharing</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9vbKrN7x5_qbEQzRjZVT1RxaTA/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>SmallQ自助塔羅解牌程式v1.3公開檔.xlsx - Google 雲端硬碟</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推薦原因:</span>
我就是作者
希望大家比較急著解一個結果出來的人可以不要浪費等待占卜師解牌的時間
<span style="color:#FFF">誰適合用:</span>
如果您抽完手邊的牌或是使用線上程式抽牌後,不在意解牌過程只想知道「是」或是
「否」/「凶」或是「吉」的人,可時直接使用這個自助解牌程式快速獲得評分。
<span style="color:#FFF">誰不適合用:</span>
不相信塔羅牌的人。
抽完牌之後想要知道更多細節而不僅僅是評分的人。
<span style="color:#FFF">使用感想:</span>
我就是作者,請了一些會塔羅或不會塔羅的朋友試用完覺得還ok才上來release,
如果哪裡用的不順手的麻煩請直接和我說,謝謝!
<span style="color:#FFF">附註:</span>
無
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talan.
Re: [問卦] 中華電信HiNet連YouTube慢的真相?
http://disp.cc/b/25-3ymY
2012-04-30T17:10:29+08:00
2015-01-24T13:46:09+08:00
文章恕刪
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=507&t=2612039&p=9
該連結第5篇,也就是第85篇文章。
不過要用ipv6,且另裝軟體,大概不是每個人都會想用。
首先要用這方法要開IPv6,Win7有開,但XP預設沒開,
XP用戶請自行在網路上找"XP IPv6 設定"等文章。
開啟以後IPv6後,看電腦的作業系統是32位元還是64來安裝軟體。
http://ipv6now.com.au/download/gogoc1.0RELEASEHACCESSwin32.exe
http://ipv6now.com.au/download/gogoc1.0RELEASEHACCESSwin64.exe
安裝完成後,軟體會啟動,
Basic頁面(首頁)第一項要連結的Server Address填上 anon-taipei.freenet6.net
(這是中研院的ipv6伺服器)
之後打開你用的網路連線內容,在"網路功能"一頁,選IPv6的"內容",
在" ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> talan (這個好吃嗎)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問卦] 中華電信HiNet連YouTube慢的真相?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Apr 30 17:10:29 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《laogiby (中肯伯)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 標題: Re: [問卦] 中華電信HiNet連YouTube慢的真相?</span>
<span class="quote">: 時間: Mon Apr 30 15:59:55 2012</span>
文章恕刪
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<span class="quote">: 推 ZSZ1210:請問是哪一篇M01的文章? 麻煩給一下連結~甘溫 04/30 16:21</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 momogi1105:教學文在哪?我要也改一下 04/30 16:25</span>
<span class="quote">: → tinlans:跑一半卡住是第一個看的只看到那邊就關掉或跳著看吧 04/30 16:28</span>
<span class="quote">: → tinlans:然後就 cache 到那邊 04/30 16:28</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 f127doggpig:有沒有簡易的教學阿 M01那個我看不太懂 04/30 16:45</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 max60209:youtobe環球鬼島版 04/30 16:45</span>
<span class="quote">: → HornyDragon:m01哪一篇? 04/30 16:49</span>
<span class="quote">: 推 wjuiahb:哪裡有教學?找半天找不到.... 04/30 16:50</span>
<span class="quote">: → HornyDragon:丟一句m01有教學卻沒給文章連結...... 04/30 16:50</span>
<a href="http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=507&t=2612039&p=9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=507&t=2612039&p=9</a>
該連結第5篇,也就是第85篇文章。
不過要用ipv6,且另裝軟體,大概不是每個人都會想用。
首先要用這方法要開IPv6,Win7有開,但XP預設沒開,
XP用戶請自行在網路上找"XP IPv6 設定"等文章。
開啟以後IPv6後,看電腦的作業系統是32位元還是64來安裝軟體。
<a href="http://ipv6now.com.au/download/gogoc1.0RELEASEHACCESSwin32.exe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ipv6now.com.au/download/gogoc1.0RELEASEHACCESSwin32.exe</a>
<a href="http://ipv6now.com.au/download/gogoc1.0RELEASEHACCESSwin64.exe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ipv6now.com.au/download/gogoc1.0RELEASEHACCESSwin64.exe</a>
安裝完成後,軟體會啟動,
Basic頁面(首頁)第一項要連結的Server Address填上 anon-taipei.freenet6.net
(這是中研院的ipv6伺服器)
之後打開你用的網路連線內容,在"網路功能"一頁,選IPv6的"內容",
在"使用下列DNS的位置"上,填上Google的DNS伺服器位置
主:2001:4860:4860::8888
副:2001:4860:4860::8844
重新連線以後,就可以體驗了。
更正:重新連線後,記得gogoCLIENT Utility的Conect要按,
這樣你才算完成,你沒按等於跟以前沒兩樣。
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/james30603/push?y=12" target="_blank">james30603</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只有種花會慢</span><span class="push-right">8F 04/30 17:15</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mtvabc/push?y=12" target="_blank">mtvabc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幫推 試完真的變超順 YouTube被罵的真無辜 中華電信 踹共</span><span class="push-right">12F 04/30 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/livewater/push?y=12" target="_blank">livewater</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:該死的種花電信,浪費我的時間</span><span class="push-right">13F 04/30 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/miisoo4u/push?y=12" target="_blank">miisoo4u</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一人一月一信 寫去問中華 不信他不妥協!!</span><span class="push-right">14F 04/30 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sleego/push?y=12" target="_blank">sleego</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:問一下 WIN7也要裝那個軟體嗎?</span><span class="push-right">15F 04/30 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HornyDragon/push?y=12" target="_blank">HornyDragon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:win7很方便的 照流程跑一次就搞定。</span><span class="push-right">16F 04/30 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WIN7也要裝 這樣才能強制用中研院伺服器</span><span class="push-right">17F 04/30 17:20</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另外要提醒 要用支援IPv6的瀏覽器,不然就白搭...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keepoo/push?y=12" target="_blank">keepoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問學網也有用嗎@@?</span><span class="push-right">19F 04/30 17:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:IE7以上與其他的新版FF、OP、Chrome都支援。 IE6不建議</span><span class="push-right">20F 04/30 17:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mexxxxem/push?y=12" target="_blank">mexxxxem</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:mac 怎辦?</span><span class="push-right">21F 04/30 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/r66/push?y=12" target="_blank">r66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WIN7 X64超快 都快哭了</span><span class="push-right">22F 04/30 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tomscott/push?y=12" target="_blank">tomscott</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:mac怎辦</span><span class="push-right">23F 04/30 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TSbb/push?y=12" target="_blank">TSbb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這不是很早前就知道的? 太lag了吧</span><span class="push-right">24F 04/30 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問是不是把gogo軟體關掉 就能回到之前的狀態?</span><span class="push-right">25F 04/30 17:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是</span><span class="push-right">26F 04/30 17:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝k大!</span><span class="push-right">27F 04/30 17:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mtvabc/push?y=12" target="_blank">mtvabc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中華電信近路不走 繞遠路 還好有這串文線路可自己改</span><span class="push-right">28F 04/30 17:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EQQD/push?y=12" target="_blank">EQQD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XP目前卡住 不讓我設定IPV6</span><span class="push-right">29F 04/30 17:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/madeinheaven/push?y=12" target="_blank">madeinheaven</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要怎麼知道現在在用IPv6的DNS呢?</span><span class="push-right">30F 04/30 17:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/larailing/push?y=12" target="_blank">larailing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問 會影響到連外 或是動物的時間嗎</span><span class="push-right">31F 04/30 17:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sleego/push?y=12" target="_blank">sleego</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問一下gogoCLIENT Utility要一直開著才有效嗎?</span><span class="push-right">32F 04/30 17:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問連其他網站的速度會受這個調整影響嗎?</span><span class="push-right">33F 04/30 17:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KCKCLIN/push?y=12" target="_blank">KCKCLIN</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:差好多= = 中華踹共啦 浪費玲杯那麼多時間</span><span class="push-right">34F 04/30 17:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XP確實不能使用UI設定,要下指令,但是網友實測下指令仍無效果</span><span class="push-right">35F 04/30 17:36</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當然要一直開著啊,你沒開怎麼連?</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Windows XP IPv6 DNS設定 <a href="http://goo.gl/xyVQy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/xyVQy</a></span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/godnessman/push?y=12" target="_blank">godnessman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來是中華電信在耍白爛 ...</span><span class="push-right">38F 04/30 17:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asstitle/push?y=12" target="_blank">asstitle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:WIN7 網路連線內容 怎麼打開???? (阿~~~~~~~~~~~)</span><span class="push-right">39F 04/30 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lcomicer/push?y=12" target="_blank">lcomicer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有效有推...速度終於正常了</span><span class="push-right">40F 04/30 17:42</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: talan 來自: 36.224.67.103 (04/30 17:47)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:madeinheaven:nslookup ipv6.google.com</span><span class="push-right">41F 04/30 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qtt5566/push?y=12" target="_blank">qtt5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有效有推 連PTT也變順</span><span class="push-right">42F 04/30 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:asstitle:你說的是控制台=>共用和網路中心吧</span><span class="push-right">43F 04/30 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bignoob/push?y=12" target="_blank">bignoob</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:怎麼知道自己已經設定成功呢?</span><span class="push-right">44F 04/30 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pig2003zoo/push?y=12" target="_blank">pig2003zoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還是看不懂XP要怎麼設定 苦手 有勇者發一下教學文嗎QQ</span><span class="push-right">45F 04/30 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我怎麼感覺沒什麼差? = =</span><span class="push-right">46F 04/30 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tyrande/push?y=12" target="_blank">tyrande</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我設完了 開網頁變慢耶 是怎樣</span><span class="push-right">47F 04/30 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kelvinqq/push?y=12" target="_blank">kelvinqq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:安裝完順很多 感謝大大</span><span class="push-right">48F 04/30 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Rsew/push?y=12" target="_blank">Rsew</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問每次使用都要開著嗎? win 7 64版本的 因為還蠻順的</span><span class="push-right">49F 04/30 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當然</span><span class="push-right">50F 04/30 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/feee629/push?y=12" target="_blank">feee629</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XP網路內容沒有IPV6的選項欸</span><span class="push-right">51F 04/30 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:tyrande:只有IPv6的網頁會走中研院,現在根本沒幾個是IPv6的</span><span class="push-right">52F 04/30 17:52</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:feee629:沒錯,我上面有貼Windows XP IPv6 DNS設定</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ckai1983/push?y=12" target="_blank">ckai1983</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問手機有加快速度的方法嗎?</span><span class="push-right">54F 04/30 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZSZ1210/push?y=12" target="_blank">ZSZ1210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原PO你忘記說要重新啟動瀏覽器了</span><span class="push-right">55F 04/30 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/feee629/push?y=12" target="_blank">feee629</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到了謝謝你</span><span class="push-right">56F 04/30 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bignoob/push?y=12" target="_blank">bignoob</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Connect完 gogoClient顯示的流量還是unavailable</span><span class="push-right">57F 04/30 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:bignoob:只要注意gogoc的連線成功訊息</span><span class="push-right">58F 04/30 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:網路連線內容,在"網路功能"一頁,選IPv6的"內容</span><span class="push-right">59F 04/30 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ctpz7.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ctpz7.png</a> 請問我要調哪一個的ipv6?</span><span class="push-right">60F 04/30 17:58</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這段是指區域網路嗎 還是找不到要點哪</span><span class="push-right">61F 04/30 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/enel1111/push?y=12" target="_blank">enel1111</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看影片真的快很多....</span><span class="push-right">62F 04/30 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/missjulie/push?y=12" target="_blank">missjulie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝原PO說明~你寫的我比較看得懂~現在看水管跟飛的一樣</span><span class="push-right">63F 04/30 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:phenom1:區域連線2你有沒有看到gogo6</span><span class="push-right">64F 04/30 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/enel1111/push?y=12" target="_blank">enel1111</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超順 看1080P完全不用等</span><span class="push-right">65F 04/30 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bignoob/push?y=12" target="_blank">bignoob</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為何我的gogo6 在共用中心是斷掉的 前面一個紅色XX</span><span class="push-right">66F 04/30 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有@@</span><span class="push-right">67F 04/30 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果是指區域網路3 內容--一般--IPV6--內容-沒辦法點選耶</span><span class="push-right">68F 04/30 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:chenzi38:通常都是區域連線2如phenom1的圖</span><span class="push-right">69F 04/30 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EQQD/push?y=12" target="_blank">EQQD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XP +1</span><span class="push-right">70F 04/30 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:phenom1:就是那個</span><span class="push-right">71F 04/30 18:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:bignoob:只要注意gogoc的連線成功訊息,你應該是電腦直接PPPOE</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝kysf大大 I love you.</span><span class="push-right">73F 04/30 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EQQD/push?y=12" target="_blank">EQQD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但gogo6的IPV6 無法選內容去設定</span><span class="push-right">74F 04/30 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bignoob/push?y=12" target="_blank">bignoob</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是的 來去試試</span><span class="push-right">75F 04/30 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在用IPv6-in-IPv4 Tunnel(Native)的時候會這樣,但不影響使用</span><span class="push-right">76F 04/30 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我沒辦法點選IPV6的內容耶 他是灰色的</span><span class="push-right">77F 04/30 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:EQQD:沒有錯,因為XP不支援UI設定IPv6</span><span class="push-right">78F 04/30 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EQQD/push?y=12" target="_blank">EQQD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以只要去你貼的XP IPV6DNS設定 把兩個IPV6的DNS加進去就好?</span><span class="push-right">79F 04/30 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那要怎麼去設定這個" 主:2001:4860:4860::8888</span><span class="push-right">80F 04/30 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EQQD/push?y=12" target="_blank">EQQD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:然後開GOGO6 就OK了@@?</span><span class="push-right">81F 04/30 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是,目前XP使用者測試結果是可以用沒錯,但Vista&7優異許多</span><span class="push-right">82F 04/30 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EQQD/push?y=12" target="_blank">EQQD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恩~~那有沒有方法看自己設定的對不對? 因為看水管還是會緩衝</span><span class="push-right">83F 04/30 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/AXnTW.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/AXnTW.jpg</a> orz</span><span class="push-right">84F 04/30 18:07</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/AXnTW" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="824" data-ori_h="641" style="width:824px;height:641px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/AXnTW.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我有時候也會出現"disconnected from the gogoSERVER" :(</span><span class="push-right">85F 04/30 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以<a href="http://goo.gl/gFafl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/gFafl</a></span><span class="push-right">86F 04/30 18:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/summerkof/push?y=12" target="_blank">summerkof</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:設定完看1080比360快...360P的速度還是挺慢 雖然不會斷</span><span class="push-right">87F 04/30 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:phenom1:這部分有時候會,但又自己重新連上</span><span class="push-right">88F 04/30 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/madeinheaven/push?y=12" target="_blank">madeinheaven</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有差嗎? 我怎麼覺得都一樣快 = =</span><span class="push-right">89F 04/30 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:summerkof:<a href="http://goo.gl/d2WPH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/d2WPH</a> 你們的問題討論串裡面都有</span><span class="push-right">90F 04/30 18:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Evenpan/push?y=12" target="_blank">Evenpan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看影片下載速度上限從200K後提升到900K 品質低的差異不大</span><span class="push-right">91F 04/30 18:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:chenzi38:你的是Win7 or Vista嗎?</span><span class="push-right">92F 04/30 18:15</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Evenpan:你去找一些冷門的你就知道了 <a href="http://goo.gl/GkDec" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/GkDec</a></span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我的是XP 都已經連好了就差DNS那串要怎麼填入....</span><span class="push-right">94F 04/30 18:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:照mobile01那樣設的話gogo6連上就可以關掉了 不用開著</span><span class="push-right">95F 04/30 18:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/miayao417/push?y=12" target="_blank">miayao417</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:...原本跑720還要等,現在跑1080不用等...</span><span class="push-right">96F 04/30 18:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bananasp/push?y=12" target="_blank">bananasp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太強大了</span><span class="push-right">97F 04/30 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wjuiahb/push?y=12" target="_blank">wjuiahb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真的很誇張,連1080P跟光速一樣順...好感動</span><span class="push-right">98F 04/30 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tandw/push?y=12" target="_blank">tandw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問一下用了之後網頁打不開是什麼情形....</span><span class="push-right">99F 04/30 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/become/push?y=12" target="_blank">become</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:終於不用開IE看YOUTUBE了,而且連1080P超順我要哭了!!!!</span><span class="push-right">100F 04/30 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/threeleaf/push?y=12" target="_blank">threeleaf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真的變順@____@ 感謝教學阿!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">101F 04/30 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mio1987/push?y=12" target="_blank">mio1987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有差</span><span class="push-right">102F 04/30 18:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://goo.gl/jgXtJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/jgXtJ</a>我用這個方法 沒看到遠端有ipv6的ip耶</span><span class="push-right">103F 04/30 18:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://0rz.tw/GgO1i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://0rz.tw/GgO1i</a> 請問這樣速度正常嗎 我12M</span><span class="push-right">104F 04/30 18:48</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://photobucket.com/albums/nn171/chenzi38//?action=view&current=cats.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="816" data-ori_h="624" style="width:816px;height:624px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/0/photobucket_nn171_chenzi38__cats.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xhs/push?y=12" target="_blank">xhs</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超級順XD 感謝</span><span class="push-right">105F 04/30 18:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還有DNS設定...到底怎麼用 我XP..</span><span class="push-right">106F 04/30 18:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xhs/push?y=12" target="_blank">xhs</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在看utbue真的順到翻..我就在想我用50m怎麼開utube這麼慢</span><span class="push-right">107F 04/30 18:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/summerkof/push?y=12" target="_blank">summerkof</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔 原來有時候預設還是會走HINET難怪</span><span class="push-right">108F 04/30 18:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:chenzi38:XP的話我上面已經有貼如何設定DNS</span><span class="push-right">109F 04/30 18:54</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:tandw:網頁還是走原本ISP的路徑,只有IPv6的網站才會走中研院</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xul327/push?y=12" target="_blank">xul327</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真是實用的文章,確實變順很多!!!</span><span class="push-right">111F 04/30 18:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:mybaby520:如果你連上按下"close"整個軟體是會關閉的喔</span><span class="push-right">112F 04/30 19:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cabe1/push?y=12" target="_blank">cabe1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:媽拉...我一直以為看1080是我電腦顯示卡不夠..結果現在超順!</span><span class="push-right">113F 04/30 19:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/memory2007/push?y=12" target="_blank">memory2007</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用 netsh 手動將 DNS 加入 Netsh在哪?</span><span class="push-right">114F 04/30 19:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在netsh輸入 netsh interface ipv6 add dns IPv6Tunnel 20</span><span class="push-right">115F 04/30 19:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:快好多 感謝orz</span><span class="push-right">116F 04/30 19:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:netsh interface ipv6 add dns IPv6Tunnel 2001:4860:4860::8</span><span class="push-right">117F 04/30 19:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:整串?</span><span class="push-right">118F 04/30 19:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:netsh interface ipv6>add dns interface="區域連線"</span><span class="push-right">119F 04/30 19:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: address=2001:4860:4860::8888</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://note.tc.edu.tw/365.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://note.tc.edu.tw/365.html</a> # 設定 v6 的dns</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BDACK/push?y=12" target="_blank">BDACK</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問一下那DOS畫面怎麼跑出來</span><span class="push-right">122F 04/30 19:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:開始功能表>執行>cmd</span><span class="push-right">123F 04/30 19:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:k大~就是按close啊 我一個多月前設定好一次後 平常就都</span><span class="push-right">124F 04/30 19:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是ipv6連線了, 重開機gogo6也會在服務自動連上 ipv6網站</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:檢測也都是連上的.</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只要不掛上中華代理都可以正常運作</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我輸入正確他一直說找不到命令 真怪</span><span class="push-right">128F 04/30 19:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用完後1080p比480p 720p還快是什麼巫術</span><span class="push-right">129F 04/30 19:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/memory2007/push?y=12" target="_blank">memory2007</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我區域連線2裡面依舊找不到netsh = =</span><span class="push-right">130F 04/30 19:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=12" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://www.wretch.cc/blog/qmaw/7290767" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wretch.cc/blog/qmaw/7290767</a> xp安裝ipv6</span><span class="push-right">131F 04/30 19:15</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.wretch.cc/blog/qmaw/7290767" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Yahoo奇摩</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="512" data-ori_h="512" style="width:512px;height:512px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/0/wretch_c9d3551619633594a958aaadc9adb6fd.png" alt="[圖]" /></div>提供最方便的網站搜尋、即時新聞、生活資訊和Yahoo奇摩服務入口。</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TD11/push?y=12" target="_blank">TD11</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不好意思想問一下~~設定好之後 BT會變比較快嗎?</span><span class="push-right">132F 04/30 19:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以XP流程是 打開NETSH 裝好 打好地址後再輸入路由器?</span><span class="push-right">133F 04/30 19:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cabe1/push?y=12" target="_blank">cabe1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:欸是我錯覺嗎? 還是拿來下載mipony速度也變快了</span><span class="push-right">134F 04/30 19:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AirPenguin/push?y=12" target="_blank">AirPenguin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:gogo每次上網前都要先開著嗎?</span><span class="push-right">135F 04/30 19:22</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AirPenguin/push?y=12" target="_blank">AirPenguin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺沒甚麼差是甚麼問題啊?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不用開 下面那個方框打勾 設定好以後重開機也會自己連上</span><span class="push-right">137F 04/30 19:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h5566/push?y=12" target="_blank">h5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有用有推 真的差超多</span><span class="push-right">138F 04/30 19:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/needhp/push?y=12" target="_blank">needhp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有用有推,真的1080順順順</span><span class="push-right">139F 04/30 19:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是xp 我要怎麼知道有設定成功?</span><span class="push-right">140F 04/30 19:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:gogo連不上 QQ</span><span class="push-right">141F 04/30 19:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:gogo client可以連線成功 應該就是成功了。</span><span class="push-right">142F 04/30 19:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且還可以去看軟體的status 看連接狀況</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ajia0818/push?y=12" target="_blank">ajia0818</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問透過無線AP的話 設定方式一樣嗎 還是要進AP在設定</span><span class="push-right">144F 04/30 19:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ajia0818/push?y=12" target="_blank">ajia0818</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另外自己目前測起來沒有差別= = 有沒有連結可以測測</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/rPLxz.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/rPLxz.jpg</a> 這樣算成功?</span><span class="push-right">146F 04/30 19:38</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/rPLxz" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="520" data-ori_h="655" style="width:520px;height:655px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/rPLxz.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XP感覺不會成功阿 崩潰</span><span class="push-right">147F 04/30 19:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ipv6.mlc.edu.tw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ipv6.mlc.edu.tw/</a> 設定完重開瀏覽器再測 關代理</span><span class="push-right">148F 04/30 19:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/memory2007/push?y=12" target="_blank">memory2007</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:= = 怎麼丟水球阿... 快瘋了</span><span class="push-right">149F 04/30 19:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:成功阿</span><span class="push-right">150F 04/30 19:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:連線以後 gogo client應該是可以關掉的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsaiyunlung/push?y=12" target="_blank">tsaiyunlung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:抱歉 我ipv6裝好了但網路裡找不到選項可以輸入</span><span class="push-right">152F 04/30 19:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:他已經以服務的狀態在系統中運作,所以程式關掉不影響ipv6</span><span class="push-right">153F 04/30 19:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:記得要做第三步的設定 <a href="http://ppt.cc/UWZb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/UWZb</a></span><span class="push-right">154F 04/30 19:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺差別不大阿 囧</span><span class="push-right">155F 04/30 19:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ning01/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ning01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:裡面111樓說XP的改變ipv6 dns的指令根本不會作用</span><span class="push-right">156F 04/30 19:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ning01/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ning01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以說XP根本不行用? 有人XP有成功設好DNS且有作用到的嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:gogo連不上怎麼辦~"~</span><span class="push-right">158F 04/30 19:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:============Windows XP可用但效果沒那麼好=================</span><span class="push-right">159F 04/30 19:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ning01/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ning01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:打錯 不是111是M01文章的114樓</span><span class="push-right">160F 04/30 19:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:===============Windows XP IPv6要自行安裝=================</span><span class="push-right">161F 04/30 19:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nolimits/push?y=12" target="_blank">nolimits</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺好麻煩喔</span><span class="push-right">162F 04/30 19:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Vista&7設定很快....XP就.....</span><span class="push-right">163F 04/30 19:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:求XP完整流程版 因為我根本不知道自己裝好沒</span><span class="push-right">164F 04/30 19:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TD11/push?y=12" target="_blank">TD11</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有人可以另外整理一篇怎麼處理XP的文出來嗎? 看推文蠻亂的</span><span class="push-right">165F 04/30 19:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ning01/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ning01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我的ipv6已經有裝好了,可是照裡面方法加dns總覺得都失敗</span><span class="push-right">166F 04/30 19:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsaiyunlung/push?y=12" target="_blank">tsaiyunlung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:my大 我的就是第三步裡找不到IPV6的選項可以讓我設定</span><span class="push-right">167F 04/30 19:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是XP 我看上面<a href="http://ipv6.mlc.edu.tw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ipv6.mlc.edu.tw/</a>的網頁是彩色</span><span class="push-right">168F 04/30 19:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://www.test-ipv6.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.test-ipv6.com/</a> 設定成功,ipv6檢測是OK的</span><span class="push-right">169F 04/30 19:48</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.test-ipv6.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Test your IPv6.</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="957" data-ori_h="936" style="width:957px;height:936px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://test-ipv6.com/images/snapshot.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></div></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過我覺得效果不大啦</span><span class="push-right">170F 04/30 19:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:tsaiyunlung:因為你是XP,XP無GUI....</span><span class="push-right">171F 04/30 19:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Glasvegas/push?y=12" target="_blank">Glasvegas</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跪求XP懶人包</span><span class="push-right">172F 04/30 19:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsaiyunlung/push?y=12" target="_blank">tsaiyunlung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那請問要怎麼用才是對的?</span><span class="push-right">173F 04/30 19:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:k大求救QQ "disconnected from the gogoserver"</span><span class="push-right">174F 04/30 19:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ning01/push?y=12" target="_blank">Ning01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:裝好ipv6不是還要把咕狗dns加進去才有用?</span><span class="push-right">175F 04/30 19:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/0dnsj.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/0dnsj.jpg</a> 看樣子沒成功?</span><span class="push-right">176F 04/30 19:51</span></div>
<div align="center"><div class="quote" style="max-width:100%;width:1024px"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/0dnsj.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>imgur</strong> [檢視原始大小(1890x476)]</a>
<a href="http://imgur.com/0dnsj" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1024" data-ori_h="258" style="width:1024px;height:258px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/0dnsjh.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請關閉防毒軟體</span><span class="push-right">177F 04/30 19:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/r596twy/push?y=12" target="_blank">r596twy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知道是設定沒完全還是怎樣 感覺XP沒差欸...~"~</span><span class="push-right">178F 04/30 19:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:andyleeyuan:這樣是確定你可以連IPv6的服務...</span><span class="push-right">179F 04/30 19:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/faldo/push?y=12" target="_blank">faldo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Interface configuration script completed with errors.</span><span class="push-right">180F 04/30 19:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是目前XP的使用者回報效果沒那麼好,請改用Win7</span><span class="push-right">181F 04/30 19:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/faldo/push?y=12" target="_blank">faldo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:重裝N次還是這個錯 ..</span><span class="push-right">182F 04/30 19:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:關了一樣連不上..</span><span class="push-right">183F 04/30 19:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/PubLc.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/PubLc.png</a> <<這樣是不是沒成功?</span><span class="push-right">184F 04/30 19:54</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/PubLc" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="520" data-ori_h="655" style="width:520px;height:655px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/PubLc.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/faldo/push?y=12" target="_blank">faldo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:防火牆、防毒全關了</span><span class="push-right">185F 04/30 19:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qmaper/push?y=12" target="_blank">qmaper</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我測的結果跟andylee一樣 dns沒法加入</span><span class="push-right">186F 04/30 19:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:faldo我跟你一樣= =</span><span class="push-right">187F 04/30 19:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/r596twy/push?y=12" target="_blank">r596twy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:判斷有沒有成功 是不是只要看gogoClient裡面的status</span><span class="push-right">188F 04/30 19:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/r596twy/push?y=12" target="_blank">r596twy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看status裡面 有封包在傳輸就是設定成功嗎??</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以到底要怎樣測我DNS有沒有加成功= =</span><span class="push-right">190F 04/30 19:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lavchi/push?y=12" target="_blank">Lavchi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跟樓上相同情形,不知如何處理</span><span class="push-right">191F 04/30 19:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有....我回答這麼問題好幾次了 <a href="http://goo.gl/CPbOh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/CPbOh</a></span><span class="push-right">192F 04/30 19:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最後一個沒差...m01那篇回覆有說 ipv6連線檢測網站一堆</span><span class="push-right">193F 04/30 19:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:andyleeyuan:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/rxfye.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/rxfye.png</a></span><span class="push-right">194F 04/30 19:58</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/rxfye" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="677" data-ori_h="442" style="width:677px;height:442px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/rxfye.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/faldo/push?y=12" target="_blank">faldo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來沒那個命~86~</span><span class="push-right">195F 04/30 19:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mc12355/push?y=12" target="_blank">mc12355</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近在水管很難看玩一個完整影片...</span><span class="push-right">196F 04/30 20:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:LoCKeR941010:系統是?就算是XP一樣連得上</span><span class="push-right">197F 04/30 20:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nicowyaw/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nicowyaw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:網路連線-區域網路-ipv6為什麼不能點選內容T^T</span><span class="push-right">198F 04/30 20:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:================因為Windows XP沒有GUI====================</span><span class="push-right">199F 04/30 20:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是哪裡錯誤 netsh interface ipv6 接下來輸入</span><span class="push-right">200F 04/30 20:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oklaaccc/push?y=12" target="_blank">oklaaccc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我xp 試了之後 點了幾個影片都能完整看完 差很多耶</span><span class="push-right">201F 04/30 20:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oklaaccc/push?y=12" target="_blank">oklaaccc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過速度沒什麼差的感覺</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kysf:win7 64</span><span class="push-right">203F 04/30 20:05</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:"Interface configuration script completed with</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不是我不用WIN7 而是WIN7抓不到我的顯卡 非常扯</span><span class="push-right">205F 04/30 20:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:errors."</span><span class="push-right">206F 04/30 20:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nicowyaw/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nicowyaw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:執行-cmd-netsh該行複製貼上enter-元素找不到T^T</span><span class="push-right">207F 04/30 20:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoCKeR941010/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoCKeR941010</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:"Last status context is: Tunnel interface setup."</span><span class="push-right">208F 04/30 20:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/faldo/push?y=12" target="_blank">faldo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:LoCKeR加油,好了請教我 Q_Q</span><span class="push-right">209F 04/30 20:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZSZ1210/push?y=12" target="_blank">ZSZ1210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:奇怪..下午都能滿速 剛剛回來一用就被打回原形了</span><span class="push-right">210F 04/30 20:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:oklaaccc:XP的使用者交給你了</span><span class="push-right">211F 04/30 20:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyleeyuan/push?y=12" target="_blank">andyleeyuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/a0Qpe.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/a0Qpe.jpg</a> 這樣是不是沒成功</span><span class="push-right">212F 04/30 20:07</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/a0Qpe" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="668" data-ori_h="437" style="width:668px;height:437px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/a0Qpe.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:KYSF大請問add dns 後面我接Microsoft TCP/IP version 6</span><span class="push-right">213F 04/30 20:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:qzp5408:你的顯卡哪一張?</span><span class="push-right">214F 04/30 20:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為啥不行</span><span class="push-right">215F 04/30 20:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nifocy/push?y=12" target="_blank">nifocy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有另外在使用固定IP撥號上網 好像就沒辦法..</span><span class="push-right">216F 04/30 20:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nicowyaw/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nicowyaw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:完惹這樣感覺用xp的都很笨T^T</span><span class="push-right">217F 04/30 20:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:asus engt430</span><span class="push-right">218F 04/30 20:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TD11/push?y=12" target="_blank">TD11</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:懇請oklaaccc大 PO一篇XP教學文!!</span><span class="push-right">219F 04/30 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:andyleeyuan:XP不支援IPv6 DNS lookup(查詢)功能</span><span class="push-right">220F 04/30 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsaiyunlung/push?y=12" target="_blank">tsaiyunlung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:拜託OK大了~~淚推</span><span class="push-right">221F 04/30 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:430怎麼可能抓不到..不算舊的卡啊,</span><span class="push-right">222F 04/30 20:10</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://www.nvidia.com.tw/Download/index.aspx?lang=tw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.nvidia.com.tw/Download/index.aspx?lang=tw</a></span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對 這是最神奇的地方</span><span class="push-right">224F 04/30 20:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:下午比較順 現在很頓+1</span><span class="push-right">225F 04/30 20:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以安裝吧?</span><span class="push-right">226F 04/30 20:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是我用WIN7的話 我根本不能裝驅動 因為抓不到顯卡</span><span class="push-right">227F 04/30 20:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是螢幕接頭得接顯卡插槽</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZSZ1210/push?y=12" target="_blank">ZSZ1210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在好慢~"~ 下午超快的說</span><span class="push-right">229F 04/30 20:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/cJu99.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/cJu99.png</a> 人越來越多的關係吧</span><span class="push-right">230F 04/30 20:15</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/cJu99" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="853" data-ori_h="511" style="width:853px;height:511px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/cJu99.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也在看這部MV 但是我最快才到5000阿!!!!</span><span class="push-right">231F 04/30 20:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kathyfour/push?y=12" target="_blank">kathyfour</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問那vista咧... 囧</span><span class="push-right">232F 04/30 20:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mybaby520/push?y=12" target="_blank">mybaby520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:vista比照win7辦理</span><span class="push-right">233F 04/30 20:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/malan/push?y=12" target="_blank">malan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:名子跟我一樣的天才鄉民</span><span class="push-right">234F 04/30 20:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qmaper/push?y=12" target="_blank">qmaper</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來xp該淘汰了~XD該升級ㄌ</span><span class="push-right">235F 04/30 20:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/cJu99.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/cJu99.png</a> 請問這是哪部影片?</span><span class="push-right">236F 04/30 20:26</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/cJu99" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="853" data-ori_h="511" style="width:853px;height:511px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/cJu99.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:測試youtube不須管影片的,順就是每部都順</span><span class="push-right">237F 04/30 20:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:KYSF大 add dns 後面要接什麼 他說伺服器介面名稱</span><span class="push-right">238F 04/30 20:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可是不是說冷門影片會下載比較慢?</span><span class="push-right">239F 04/30 20:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我接Microsoft TCP/IP version 6 2001:4860:4860::8888</span><span class="push-right">240F 04/30 20:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenzi38/push?y=12" target="_blank">chenzi38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:語法不正確....</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cabe1/push?y=12" target="_blank">cabe1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是win7 32位元 現在真的還在順</span><span class="push-right">242F 04/30 20:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:chenzi38:當然不正確,如果你是區域連線2,那就要打區域連線2</span><span class="push-right">243F 04/30 20:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/umi74/push?y=12" target="_blank">umi74</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ipv6連線能力: 無網際網路連線存取 ..這成功嗎</span><span class="push-right">244F 04/30 20:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qzp5408/push?y=12" target="_blank">qzp5408</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:放棄 等待一年半後當完兵再用...</span><span class="push-right">245F 04/30 20:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:====XP用戶文章代碼(AID): <a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1335788885.A.B47.html" target="_blank"><a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1335788885.A.B47.html" target="_blank">#1FdeLLj7 (Gossiping)</a></a> [ptt.cc]</span><span class="push-right">246F 04/30 20:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZSZ1210/push?y=12" target="_blank">ZSZ1210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我下午測試的影片和現在測的是同一個 但是現在慢到還會LAG</span><span class="push-right">247F 04/30 20:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我剛才很鈍 現在又順了 奇怪 ="=</span><span class="push-right">248F 04/30 20:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:umi74:IPv6連線正常與否依照gogoc軟體顯示為準</span><span class="push-right">249F 04/30 20:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ZSZ1210:有的時候會自己跑到HiNet的YouTube慢取...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afu30303/push?y=12" target="_blank">afu30303</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為什麼我網路連線的ipv6是打x的</span><span class="push-right">251F 04/30 20:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一直都是"Disconnected from the gogoSERVER"錯誤訊息</span><span class="push-right">252F 04/30 20:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/umi74/push?y=12" target="_blank">umi74</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感覺沒啥差耶 是太多人用的關係嗎= =</span><span class="push-right">253F 04/30 20:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fallujah/push?y=12" target="_blank">fallujah</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:win7 感覺快十倍 沒斷線 爽</span><span class="push-right">254F 04/30 20:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:================建議使用Win7,XP隨著洪流消失吧============</span><span class="push-right">255F 04/30 20:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Interface configuration script completed with errors.</span><span class="push-right">256F 04/30 20:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fz/push?y=12" target="_blank">Fz</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有下有推</span><span class="push-right">257F 04/30 20:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/billblack/push?y=12" target="_blank">billblack</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有人能拍影片留程嗎? 弄不好就是弄不好 WIN7的</span><span class="push-right">258F 04/30 20:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZSZ1210/push?y=12" target="_blank">ZSZ1210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:k大 我有開流量監測的 確實是gogoc在跑沒錯 可是速度和穩</span><span class="push-right">259F 04/30 20:58</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZSZ1210/push?y=12" target="_blank">ZSZ1210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:定度差下午差很多</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/c4681209/push?y=12" target="_blank">c4681209</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還以為是我的電腦太舊了~原來是爛種花害的.....</span><span class="push-right">261F 04/30 21:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ZSZ1210:是有可能...因為還有學網的用戶在用</span><span class="push-right">262F 04/30 21:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GYd99/push?y=12" target="_blank">GYd99</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,之前晚上都不會動,現在好很多</span><span class="push-right">263F 04/30 21:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/colatea/push?y=12" target="_blank">colatea</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:變快了耶!</span><span class="push-right">264F 04/30 21:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:唉可以連 Hinet 的 203.74.21.89,連不上中研院的</span><span class="push-right">265F 04/30 21:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kasparov:HiNet IPv6超級慢喔....</span><span class="push-right">266F 04/30 21:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我快要放棄了orz 雖然本身看片是沒多慢</span><span class="push-right">267F 04/30 21:17</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:連中研院的就會出現 Interface configuration...的錯誤</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: win7 64-bit</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kasparov:你選這個是試試看 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/QTx03.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/QTx03.png</a></span><span class="push-right">270F 04/30 21:28</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/QTx03" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="530" data-ori_h="665" style="width:530px;height:665px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/QTx03.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你順便也附上錯誤的圖吧</span><span class="push-right">271F 04/30 21:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/danielwang/push?y=12" target="_blank">danielwang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我一直出現disconnected from gogosever... 好想用啊..</span><span class="push-right">272F 04/30 21:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那邊的選項我都試過了,都一樣錯誤訊息</span><span class="push-right">273F 04/30 21:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/AXnTW.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/AXnTW.jpg</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/AXnTW" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="824" data-ori_h="641" style="width:824px;height:641px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/AXnTW.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CYWang40/push?y=12" target="_blank">CYWang40</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是XP的 下載完32位元的程式 到網路連線那IPV6內容灰的?</span><span class="push-right">275F 04/30 21:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: log: Failed to contact TSP listener at</span><span class="push-right">276F 04/30 21:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: anon-taipei.freenet6.net.</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Failed to connect to server</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasparov/push?y=12" target="_blank">kasparov</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: anon-taipei.freenet6.net on port 3653.</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nashsai/push?y=12" target="_blank">nashsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我和kasparov一樣的錯誤~~WIN7 64位元版~~</span><span class="push-right">280F 04/30 21:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/punksir/push?y=12" target="_blank">punksir</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:剛剛用好第一次可以連 後來重開機後就無法用了</span><span class="push-right">281F 04/30 21:38</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/punksir/push?y=12" target="_blank">punksir</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:也是會顯示"Disconnected from the gogoSERVER" Win7</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nashsai/push?y=12" target="_blank">nashsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對 我成功一次 之後就不行囉..</span><span class="push-right">283F 04/30 21:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xs9527/push?y=12" target="_blank">xs9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問這樣DNS有設定成功嗎? gogo也突然不能連</span><span class="push-right">284F 04/30 21:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nashsai/push?y=12" target="_blank">nashsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知道是因為伺服器滿的關係嗎</span><span class="push-right">285F 04/30 21:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xs9527/push?y=12" target="_blank">xs9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/-HkX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/-HkX</a></span><span class="push-right">286F 04/30 21:40</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ppt.cc/-HkX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x599)]
<div class="img" data-ori_w="400" data-ori_h="300" style="width:400px;height:300px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/-HkX@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:CYWang40: <a href="http://disp.cc/b/163-3yp8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/163-3yp8</a> XP看這</span><span class="push-right">287F 04/30 21:41</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://disp.cc/b/163-3yp8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Re: [問卦] 中華電信HiNet連YouTube慢的真相? - Gossiping板 - Disp BBS</strong></a>
<a href="http://disp.cc/b/163-3yp8" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="200" data-ori_h="180" style="width:200px;height:180px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/test-ipv6.com/images_knob_info.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://disp.cc/b/163-3yp8" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="200" data-ori_h="180" style="width:200px;height:180px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/i2.disp.cc/imgur5_Ovfqg.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> 先說好,我設定完之後,感覺沒啥差別... XP設定教學(有誤請指正~謝謝): 1.打開 開始->執行,然後打入cmd,出現命令提示字元視窗 2.在命令提示字元底下直接輸入: ipv6 install 會開始安裝IPv6 (輸入完後先別關掉 待會還會用到) 3.根據XP是32位元或 ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/travelmat/push?y=12" target="_blank">travelmat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:K大,想請問我現在一直出現DISCONNECTED...</span><span class="push-right">288F 04/30 21:42</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/travelmat/push?y=12" target="_blank">travelmat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另外請問,我ipv6測試網頁是黑白 (原本彩色) 兩者有關嗎</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:punksir:我現在啟動win7的XP MODE...出現</span><span class="push-right">290F 04/30 21:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fore4869/push?y=12" target="_blank">fore4869</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也是安裝好後第一次可以連 之後就完全不能連 win7 64</span><span class="push-right">291F 04/30 21:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Ovfqg.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Ovfqg.png</a> 應該是伺服器人滿了</span><span class="push-right">292F 04/30 21:45</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Ovfqg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="386" data-ori_h="181" style="width:386px;height:181px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Ovfqg.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:travelmat:當然有關,要連上gogoc才能連IPv6的應用</span><span class="push-right">293F 04/30 21:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kasparov:中研院TB Server人太多了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/travelmat/push?y=12" target="_blank">travelmat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝</span><span class="push-right">295F 04/30 21:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nashsai/push?y=12" target="_blank">nashsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:放著給他一直連~~連上囉</span><span class="push-right">296F 04/30 21:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/punksir/push?y=12" target="_blank">punksir</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝</span><span class="push-right">297F 04/30 21:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/travelmat/push?y=12" target="_blank">travelmat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:連上了,感謝拯救我這個電腦白癡 ㄒ_ㄒ</span><span class="push-right">298F 04/30 21:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xs9527/push?y=12" target="_blank">xs9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原本的區域連線以及IPv6Tunnel的區域連線 DNS都設定好了</span><span class="push-right">299F 04/30 21:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xs9527/push?y=12" target="_blank">xs9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:卻還是不能連欸...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CYWang40/push?y=12" target="_blank">CYWang40</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kysf我照你的網頁設定好 測試看彩色圖也OK 1080P還是卡..</span><span class="push-right">301F 04/30 21:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你指的不能連是出現disconnected的訊息嗎?</span><span class="push-right">302F 04/30 21:52</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:CYWang40:連上之後須重開瀏覽器,等一段時間</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xs9527/push?y=12" target="_blank">xs9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:測試圖片為黑白 @@</span><span class="push-right">304F 04/30 21:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:CYWang40:因為XP改過之後表現不明顯,能升級Win7有明顯差異</span><span class="push-right">305F 04/30 21:54</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xs9527:你現在gogoc有連線成功的訊息嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xs9527/push?y=12" target="_blank">xs9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是的</span><span class="push-right">307F 04/30 21:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:把瀏覽器重開...</span><span class="push-right">308F 04/30 21:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CYWang40/push?y=12" target="_blank">CYWang40</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:改過後1080P還是龜速移動 應該直接說明XP無用XD 感恩教學</span><span class="push-right">309F 04/30 22:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=12" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:問一個智障問題 只要設定家裡VDSL那台就好對吧</span><span class="push-right">310F 04/30 22:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=12" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:無線上網的筆電應該不用設定?(好像也沒辦法設定XD)</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Brad255:這東西是在電腦端設定的...</span><span class="push-right">312F 04/30 22:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=12" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恩 我剛剛在電腦端設定好 所以無線上網這台 也是照設定的</span><span class="push-right">313F 04/30 22:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=12" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:伺服器走嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:每台電腦都要設定</span><span class="push-right">315F 04/30 22:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=12" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:了解</span><span class="push-right">316F 04/30 22:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nat/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:依然不可使用 按照步驟執行 win7 64bit -v-"</span><span class="push-right">317F 04/30 22:16</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nat/push?y=12" target="_blank">Nat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:連線成功 的確快滿多的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oncemore/push?y=12" target="_blank">oncemore</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問有別的server嗎?</span><span class="push-right">319F 04/30 22:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Yie/push?y=12" target="_blank">Yie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">320F 04/30 22:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/billblack/push?y=12" target="_blank">billblack</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問一下我已經連上了 但沒有區域連線2</span><span class="push-right">321F 04/30 23:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/roea68roea68/push?y=12" target="_blank">roea68roea68</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我本來就用這方法超快 結果被po到ptt好像變慢了- -</span><span class="push-right">322F 04/30 23:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太多人了用了...追根究柢 這也不是治本的法 Hinet只要改一下</span><span class="push-right">323F 04/30 23:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/talan/push?y=12" target="_blank">talan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就沒今天這些問題了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ascii/push?y=12" target="_blank">ascii</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在連不上是因為伺服器爆了XD</span><span class="push-right">325F 04/30 23:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一直顯示The tunnel creation and configuration script</span><span class="push-right">326F 04/30 23:48</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:failed to execute. Consult the log file for details.</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/doom3/push?y=12" target="_blank">doom3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可惡 塞爆了 連不上 等了一小時連上之後 海闊天空 呵呵呵呵</span><span class="push-right">328F 05/01 00:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:oncemore:如果能夠要到So-Net的帳號密碼就可以</span><span class="push-right">329F 05/01 00:11</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ipv6launch.tw/use.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ipv6launch.tw/use.html</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ipv6launch.tw/use.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>台灣IPv6全面升級</strong></a></div></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoveA7X/push?y=12" target="_blank">LoveA7X</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:前面的都設定好了,但找不到"網路功能" ~"~</span><span class="push-right">331F 05/01 01:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hml980313psu/push?y=12" target="_blank">hml980313psu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好順QQ</span><span class="push-right">332F 05/01 01:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tequilawu/push?y=12" target="_blank">tequilawu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:快到要哭出來了...</span><span class="push-right">333F 05/01 01:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ALOVET/push?y=12" target="_blank">ALOVET</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:都設定好卻還是跟以前一樣慢的速度 是因為太多人用?</span><span class="push-right">334F 05/01 01:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ly4138/push?y=12" target="_blank">ly4138</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感動淚推Q_Q</span><span class="push-right">335F 05/01 03:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kontrollCat/push?y=12" target="_blank">kontrollCat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 成功了 感覺上大概快50倍吧 今晚 您是我的神。</span><span class="push-right">336F 05/01 03:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/justastupid/push?y=12" target="_blank">justastupid</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爽爆拉 整個起飛了</span><span class="push-right">337F 05/01 05:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/O10lOl01O/push?y=12" target="_blank">O10lOl01O</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我弄好了 沒差 ==</span><span class="push-right">338F 05/01 10:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我gogoclient顯示已連上 但ipv6網頁測試沒通過QQ</span><span class="push-right">339F 05/01 10:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以是沒通過?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/O10lOl01O/push?y=12" target="_blank">O10lOl01O</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:等等 好像有差 紅條雖然不會跑 但按過去都馬上播</span><span class="push-right">341F 05/01 10:26</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/O10lOl01O/push?y=12" target="_blank">O10lOl01O</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不用讀取 之前是都要讀取 @@</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/O10lOl01O/push?y=12" target="_blank">O10lOl01O</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:瀏覽器有差嗎??pcman和chrome都不順 火狐很順!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/z0NyJ.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/z0NyJ.png</a> <<<我結果跟kysf大給的不同</span><span class="push-right">344F 05/01 10:50</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/z0NyJ" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="668" data-ori_h="431" style="width:668px;height:431px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/z0NyJ.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:耶 為什麼?</span><span class="push-right">345F 05/01 10:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kysf大的結果是這樣 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/rxfye.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/rxfye.png</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/rxfye" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="677" data-ori_h="442" style="width:677px;height:442px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/rxfye.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/O10lOl01O/push?y=12" target="_blank">O10lOl01O</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:怪了 現在火狐也不順了= =</span><span class="push-right">347F 05/01 10:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pch666/push?y=12" target="_blank">pch666</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:泥水管有飛起來~~推推</span><span class="push-right">348F 05/01 11:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:O10lOl01O:低流量的影片會這樣,這就是奧秘的所在啊,自己體會</span><span class="push-right">349F 05/01 13:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:phenom1:你乾脆都把區域連線和區域連線2的IPv4和IPv6的DSN</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:DNS都設定成google的,設定完成之後網路連線和gogoc連線都</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:重新連線....等待一下,瀏覽器也要重開</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/apflake/push?y=12" target="_blank">apflake</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:順到靠背,最愛選單連放十幾條連頓一下都沒有</span><span class="push-right">353F 05/01 13:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jacklin2002/push?y=12" target="_blank">jacklin2002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Disconnected from the gogoSERVER +1</span><span class="push-right">354F 05/01 13:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:phenom1:由於我一直使用IP分享器,我現在直接PPPOE撥上去</span><span class="push-right">355F 05/01 15:05</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:確實顯示8.8.8.8 但連線正常....</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phenom1/push?y=12" target="_blank">phenom1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝kysf大 <(_ _)></span><span class="push-right">357F 05/01 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:phenom1: 我拿一台未設定的電腦測試 <a href="http://goo.gl/9PYfF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/9PYfF</a></span><span class="push-right">358F 05/01 16:43</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:問題是出在Tunnel Mode...因為Native會顯示無連接電纜</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當然不會使用設定的DNS來查詢</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/louisman/push?y=12" target="_blank">louisman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝感謝專業文!</span><span class="push-right">361F 05/01 16:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/billblack/push?y=12" target="_blank">billblack</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我網路是3M的 測試影片都是2XXX K 這樣算正常嗎?</span><span class="push-right">362F 05/01 17:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Win7 64bit 不管怎麼試都是這個錯誤訊息耶....</span><span class="push-right">363F 05/01 17:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://xx52003.myweb.hinet.net/err.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://xx52003.myweb.hinet.net/err.htm</a> QQ</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在中華電信3M雖然說會把Overhead加開,讓你實際DataRate</span><span class="push-right">365F 05/01 17:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以到3M....但是再強也是3M=3072kbps...跑2xxxkbps當然正常</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xx52002:人太多了...我現在連也是要等一段時間</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以這只是單純因為人太多? 可是她不會自動重連說</span><span class="push-right">368F 05/01 17:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人太多不是另一個錯誤訊息然後會自己重連嗎@@</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會自動重連...等吧</span><span class="push-right">370F 05/01 17:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不會啊 我自動重連時間有調 出現上面那錯誤就是直接卡住了</span><span class="push-right">371F 05/01 17:13</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx52002/push?y=12" target="_blank">xx52002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上面不是很多win7 64bit反應過這個錯誤了嗎= = 沒得解決QQ</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://goo.gl/9PYfF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/9PYfF</a></span><span class="push-right">373F 05/01 17:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kelvinqq/push?y=12" target="_blank">kelvinqq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我20M/4M設定成功之後 跑1080P最快只能7M左右 大部分是5M</span><span class="push-right">374F 05/01 17:56</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kelvinqq/push?y=12" target="_blank">kelvinqq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知道要怎麼才能讓速度在加快</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kelvinqq/push?y=12" target="_blank">kelvinqq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:終於搞定了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/husn/push?y=12" target="_blank">husn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我gogoCLIENT status裡的tunnel mode為NAT Traversal</span><span class="push-right">377F 05/01 19:21</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/husn/push?y=12" target="_blank">husn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但nslookup ipv6.google.com 伺服器還是Hinet,為何呢?</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/husn/push?y=12" target="_blank">husn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:也確認tunnel mode為connected了</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/husn/push?y=12" target="_blank">husn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:封包也有在傳輸,Local Endpoint Addresses也有連到</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kelvinqq:太多人用了,凌晨或早上100M滿速不是問題</span><span class="push-right">381F 05/01 21:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:husn:gogoc的IPv6 DNS有無設定?IPv4 DNS請設定為自動取得</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xan1053/push?y=12" target="_blank">xan1053</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問用無線網路要怎麼設?看到有人說從AP設不太懂...</span><span class="push-right">383F 05/01 22:39</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xan1053/push?y=12" target="_blank">xan1053</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:系統是WIN7 64bit</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MrMau/push?y=12" target="_blank">MrMau</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:瘋狂的disconnected......</span><span class="push-right">385F 05/01 23:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/f8KnB.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/f8KnB.png</a> 中研院達負載上限了</span><span class="push-right">386F 05/02 00:07</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/f8KnB" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="524" data-ori_h="665" style="width:524px;height:665px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/f8KnB.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kysf/push?y=12" target="_blank">kysf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xan1053:一樣喔,完全沒有差,這設定是在"電腦端"的</span><span class="push-right">387F 05/02 00:07</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">dais</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至某隱形看板</span> 05/02 00:23</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiry/push?y=12" target="_blank">kiry</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問gogoc還能下載嗎?載不到..</span><span class="push-right">388F 05/04 19:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mos888tw/push?y=12" target="_blank">mos888tw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:google gogoc download就可以找到了</span><span class="push-right">389F 05/06 12:09</span></div>
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yohoboy.
Re: [請問] 找軟體可以提醒"某一程式ram使用過量"
http://disp.cc/b/25-8qrg
2015-01-07T10:29:57+08:00
2015-01-18T15:35:05+08:00
已開發出來了,原始程式碼在 EzHotKey 板發表,目前需要免費
檔案存放空間將組譯好的程式供大家下載,請問那位鄉民可以幫忙的。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yohoboy (小寶包是天使與惡魔)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [請問] 找軟體可以提醒"某一程式ram使用過量"<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Jan 7 10:29:57 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
已開發出來了,原始程式碼在 EzHotKey 板發表,目前需要免費
檔案存放空間將組譯好的程式供大家下載,請問那位鄉民可以幫忙的。
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<span class="quote">: 如題</span>
<span class="quote">: 請問有沒有一款軟體可以在某一程式的ram占用過量的時候做出提醒呢?</span>
<span class="quote">: 舉例來說,假設firefox(我主要想偵測的軟體...)占用超過1.5G就發出提醒讓我知道</span>
<span class="quote">: 請問有這樣的軟體嗎??</span>
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atinprince.
[問題] 去墾丁遊玩行程三天兩夜
http://disp.cc/b/25-8pQX
2013-05-12T01:27:22+08:00
2015-01-13T23:50:06+08:00
小弟帶著懷孕五個多月的老婆及4歲的女兒去墾丁走走 以下是我的大概行程
最煩惱的是吃的部份 懷孕老婆 又加上女兒才四歲
如果有吃過不錯的餐廳或是小吃可以推薦給我 或是 景點適合帶小孩去遊玩
第一天
從嘉義出發現到萬巒吃豬腳再到潮州吃冷熱冰 接著去check in 讓女兒小睡一下 接著去白沙玩水 關山看日落
吃晚餐(有推荐的嗎???給女兒也適合吃的餐廳或小吃)
第二天
飯店吃完早餐 去墾丁森林樂園走走 去砂島或鵝鑾鼻 中午午餐(有推荐的嗎) 回飯店
下午沿著龍盤 佳樂水 出發看風景 晚餐吃墾丁或是恆春(徵求推薦)
第三天
吃完早餐 出發至海生館 下午回嘉
1.如果從大灣走到夏都 他們會不讓你進去嗎 去那邊玩水會驅趕嗎???
能進去裡面泳池玩水嗎(可以單獨付錢嗎)
2.假日票卷販賣 海生館只要390是嗎 想說到了再買 應該不會騙人吧
感謝 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PingTung </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> atinprince (阿搞)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問題] 去墾丁遊玩行程三天兩夜<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun May 12 01:27:22 2013</div><hr color="#008080" />
小弟帶著懷孕五個多月的老婆及4歲的女兒去墾丁走走 以下是我的大概行程
最煩惱的是吃的部份 懷孕老婆 又加上女兒才四歲
如果有吃過不錯的餐廳或是小吃可以推薦給我 或是 景點適合帶小孩去遊玩
第一天
從嘉義出發現到萬巒吃豬腳再到潮州吃冷熱冰 接著去check in 讓女兒小睡一下 接著去白沙玩水 關山看日落
吃晚餐(有推荐的嗎???給女兒也適合吃的餐廳或小吃)
第二天
飯店吃完早餐 去墾丁森林樂園走走 去砂島或鵝鑾鼻 中午午餐(有推荐的嗎) 回飯店
下午沿著龍盤 佳樂水 出發看風景 晚餐吃墾丁或是恆春(徵求推薦)
第三天
吃完早餐 出發至海生館 下午回嘉
1.如果從大灣走到夏都 他們會不讓你進去嗎 去那邊玩水會驅趕嗎???
能進去裡面泳池玩水嗎(可以單獨付錢嗎)
2.假日票卷販賣 海生館只要390是嗎 想說到了再買 應該不會騙人吧
感謝
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chessjim.
[心得] 以創意思考解決"我現在不想讀書"的問題
http://disp.cc/b/25-8nLd
2014-12-19T10:32:57+08:00
2014-12-30T13:23:24+08:00
以創意思考解決"我現在不想讀書"的問題
1字串替換法
替換掉"我",變成"他現在不想讀書",再變成問句"他現在不想讀書,你可以幫他
想想辦法嗎?"
替換掉"不想",再拿掉"讀書",變成"我現在想____",然後變成"我現在想玩電動
", 變成一邊玩電動,邊讀書
替換掉"不想"和拿掉"書",變成"我現在要讀____",再變成我現在要讀__頁或__
行
替換掉”現在”和”不想”,變成我何時才要讀書?
2增加或減少步驟
增加步驟:我要多讀哪些背景知識,才會更容易理解這部分?
減少步驟:跳讀的技術,文章代碼#1Kauhu1a
3顛倒次序
閱讀的祕訣,文章代碼#1KaXJg6g ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> study </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> chessjim (我沒有暱稱)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [心得] 以創意思考解決"我現在不想讀書"的問題<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Dec 19 10:32:57 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
以創意思考解決"我現在不想讀書"的問題
1字串替換法
替換掉"我",變成"他現在不想讀書",再變成問句"他現在不想讀書,你可以幫他
想想辦法嗎?"
替換掉"不想",再拿掉"讀書",變成"我現在想____",然後變成"我現在想玩電動
", 變成一邊玩電動,邊讀書
替換掉"不想"和拿掉"書",變成"我現在要讀____",再變成我現在要讀__頁或__
行
替換掉”現在”和”不想”,變成我何時才要讀書?
2增加或減少步驟
增加步驟:我要多讀哪些背景知識,才會更容易理解這部分?
減少步驟:跳讀的技術,文章代碼#1Kauhu1a
3顛倒次序
閱讀的祕訣,文章代碼#1KaXJg6g
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chessjim.
[心得] 我現在用的讀書方法:SQ3R與做題目並行
http://disp.cc/b/25-8nCS
2014-11-02T17:50:28+08:00
2014-12-29T11:18:27+08:00
SQ3R與做題目並行(附加時間管理)
Survey:決定要從哪裡讀到哪裡。看大小標題、表格和圖片。閱讀第一段及最後一段,畫
章架構圖。
Question:標題改問句。是什麼?(紅)有何推論?(橙)如何操作?(黃)優點?(綠
)缺點?(藍)
Read:讀完一句乃至一段立刻用白紙蓋上,自問:這一句(段)在講些什麼?並留心將上
一個步驟的答案在課本上上色。不懂處用理解三策略<註一>。畫節架構圖。
Recite:用自己的話,將文中有關問題的答案背誦出來。背誦時如有困難可以回頭重讀,
一直到能背誦出重點為止。背誦時可以大聲唸出來或寫出在筆記上,或是運用記憶術,可
加深印象,有助於長期記憶。筆記的形式可依問題一一解答,或依綱要、圖表或心智圖等
形式來撰寫。
Review: 只要掌握「1,5,15,30」的原則。
也就是在一天後,五天後,十五天後,三十天後作複習。
例如,您有300個單字要背,每天除了背當天的科目,還要做一天前、五天前、十五天前
、三十天前的單字。
所以,您把300個單字分成30課,每一課有十個單字要背,則在第28天時,你要背的是第
28課,另外還有要複習的28-1=27 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> study </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> chessjim (我沒有暱稱)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [心得] 我現在用的讀書方法:SQ3R與做題目並行<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Nov 2 17:50:28 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
SQ3R與做題目並行(附加時間管理)
Survey:決定要從哪裡讀到哪裡。看大小標題、表格和圖片。閱讀第一段及最後一段,畫
章架構圖。
Question:標題改問句。是什麼?(紅)有何推論?(橙)如何操作?(黃)優點?(綠
)缺點?(藍)
Read:讀完一句乃至一段立刻用白紙蓋上,自問:這一句(段)在講些什麼?並留心將上
一個步驟的答案在課本上上色。不懂處用理解三策略<註一>。畫節架構圖。
<div class="combine-lines">Recite:用自己的話,將文中有關問題的答案背誦出來。背誦時如有困難可以回頭重讀,
一直到能背誦出重點為止。背誦時可以大聲唸出來或寫出在筆記上,或是運用記憶術,可
加深印象,有助於長期記憶。筆記的形式可依問題一一解答,或依綱要、圖表或心智圖等
形式來撰寫。</div>
Review: 只要掌握「1,5,15,30」的原則。
也就是在一天後,五天後,十五天後,三十天後作複習。
例如,您有300個單字要背,每天除了背當天的科目,還要做一天前、五天前、十五天前
、三十天前的單字。
<div class="combine-lines">所以,您把300個單字分成30課,每一課有十個單字要背,則在第28天時,你要背的是第
28課,另外還有要複習的28-1=27,28-5=23,28-15=13,所以要複習的是第27課,第23課
,第13課。</div>
做題目找答案
A先翻到課本的習題,找出題目中新的專有名詞
B翻到index,找到該專有名詞所在的頁數
C翻到專有名詞所在頁,找到其定義
D往後翻到習題頁,註解習題中的專有名詞<註一>
E再翻回專有名詞頁,往後找到範例
F將範例標上解題步驟1,2,3,…,並用2~3個字描述一個步驟
G利用F的解題步驟,嘗試解決該習題
時間管理
A知道自己人生的下一個階段是什麼?需要完成什麼?
ex.考期中考,需要讀完6本教科書的前100頁
B計算自己一天要讀多少內容
ex.離期中考還有一個月, 6*100/30 = 20頁/天
C增長讀書時間的方法則可以用魔術問句
問:我要讀的快些還是讀的慢些?(而不問:我是否要讀書?)
如果上述方法無效,也要問自己:若不是現在讀,會是什麼時候讀?
D理想上要累積一種經驗
連續一個禮拜,每天除了基本生理需求(ex.睡覺,吃飯,運動…)外的時間都在念書
<註一>:
理解力不佳有三種情況
A一次閱讀的資訊量太多,超出工作記憶(請google)
這時候要將一次讀一段的習慣改掉,一次只讀2~3句,並在空白處做一次小結
B錯綜複雜的文章脈絡
為”一段落”畫”一張心智圖”
請注意,不是每章一幅心智圖,是”需要釐清脈絡的段落”
C還是看不懂
用黑盒子法先釐清因果關係
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應該說這篇是我把很多訣竅融合成改良版的SQ3R
S:畫章架構圖
Q:六色學習上色法的肯定句分類改成問句
R:找答案而非讀書
R:記憶方法
R:遺忘曲線
其實在Q中
還用了"問題可分成三類法:事實問題,推論問題,評論問題"
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mufu0090
男友不愛做愛....
http://disp.cc/b/25-8kC4
2014-12-08T03:08:41+08:00
2014-12-08T03:20:37+08:00
不好意思..這種問題我真的不知該找誰談 只好問網友了...
第一次PO文 有不好的地方不好意思
我很愛我的男友,也知道男友也很愛我,我是真的想解決事情...
如果有甚麼不清楚的可以提問,但懇請各位能好好看完整篇文 感謝
男友29處女座O型 我25也是處女座O型,交往9個多月,一個禮拜見2-3次面
剛交往的時候,
可能那時他父母不在家+他當時正跳槽別的公司正在休息中
住他家時,巔峰時期一天可以做4次
後來父母回來後..改來我家做,
我是自己租屋在外,但是跟妹妹住,要妹妹不在家時才能做
那時的次數有減少成一個禮拜2次左右
當時我都覺得還很正常
但幾個月後..現在我們一個月約只做2-3次,而且幾乎都是我先要的
(這年紀在我的理解裡,應該一個禮拜至少要愛愛1-2次以上吧)
我們只要親親、抱抱,甚至有時我穿的稍微可愛一點
男友就會有生理反應,而且很硬,還會呼吸急促...
而我也是很敏感的人,只要抱抱親親就會非常濕且非常想要...
可是男友就是不想做,
說等一下妹妹回家了要怎麼辦
也說上班很累壓力很大,愛愛很耗體力之類的...
所以我們常常呈現 我很濕 他很硬...但我們甚麼也沒做..這樣奇怪的情 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> mufu0090 (mufu)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 男友不愛做愛....<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年12月08日 Mon. AM 03:08:41</div><hr color="#008080" />
不好意思..這種問題我真的不知該找誰談 只好問網友了...
第一次PO文 有不好的地方不好意思
我很愛我的男友,也知道男友也很愛我,我是真的想解決事情...
如果有甚麼不清楚的可以提問,但懇請各位能好好看完整篇文 感謝
男友29處女座O型 我25也是處女座O型,交往9個多月,一個禮拜見2-3次面
剛交往的時候,
可能那時他父母不在家+他當時正跳槽別的公司正在休息中
住他家時,巔峰時期一天可以做4次
後來父母回來後..改來我家做,
我是自己租屋在外,但是跟妹妹住,要妹妹不在家時才能做
那時的次數有減少成一個禮拜2次左右
當時我都覺得還很正常
但幾個月後..現在我們一個月約只做2-3次,而且幾乎都是我先要的
(這年紀在我的理解裡,應該一個禮拜至少要愛愛1-2次以上吧)
我們只要親親、抱抱,甚至有時我穿的稍微可愛一點
男友就會有生理反應,而且很硬,還會呼吸急促...
而我也是很敏感的人,只要抱抱親親就會非常濕且非常想要...
可是男友就是不想做,
說等一下妹妹回家了要怎麼辦
也說上班很累壓力很大,愛愛很耗體力之類的...
所以我們常常呈現 我很濕 他很硬...但我們甚麼也沒做..這樣奇怪的情形..
他有生理反應,但不想做,所以我認為應該真的是心理壓力的問題
而且男友和一般男生有點不一樣..算是有點感情潔癖..
我們是以結婚為前提..
他是個很專情,也非常負責任、肯付出的男人,對我和家人都很好
他真的是我遇過最好的男人了..
交往後就馬上和異性保持距離..A片也都刪光光...
FB LINE 手機 電腦都任我用,帳號密碼全都自動交給我
有時候我會問他異性的問題 他也覺得很OK 從來不會不耐煩...
但缺點是..
他的感情面很敏感....
無法在沒感覺的時候做..也希望愛愛是在輕鬆快樂的狀態下執行的
只要稍微有點壓力就寧可不要做...(就算下面很硬但還是不要做)
他覺得沒有認真做這件事情,就是把女友當作洩慾工具的行為...
我能明白這點,也很體諒他,知道男友是現在工作忙
因為剛跟男友在一起的時候,他剛好跳槽換工作,那時候都在休息
那個時候比較有空,所以才有辦法做那麼多次
現在工作忙了,次數少點我也能體諒
但...我們之間一直有一個問題,
我覺得做愛很好,很舒服..很容易濕...但...我就是沒有高X過...
就只是會舒服 但從沒有飛上天的感覺 這樣...
在跟男友交往前,我曾和3個人交往發生過關係,但我也從沒高X過
所以我認命了..應該是體質的問題..這輩子應該不會有了...
而且我也不會因此討厭做愛..我很喜歡做愛...
雖然有點遺憾,但也沒關係..@@
男友曾愧疚的跟我說,都沒讓我高潮.....
我回答他:沒關係,我之前也都是這樣...不是你的錯...
雖然真的是這樣想的沒錯...
可是內心深處其實還是會很渴望有那種經驗的...
我知道男友一直都覺得愧疚..也有偷偷努力過,曾試著幫我舔之類的
但我覺得還是沒有處理得很好..(說真的..我覺得舔了也沒很舒服...)
男友很大男人很愛面子,尤其生氣了更是會用冷言冷語把人講的體無完膚...
我很想兩個人都坦承的說出自己的感覺
但一直都不好意思找他溝通..也怕他突然就生氣...
不過壓抑久了..想想還是坦白好了..今天終於找男友談了這件事...
我的訴求很簡單,就是希望雙方一起努力面對高X的事情,好好處理它
但講一講..他就生氣了..說一堆氣話..
我:寶貝問你喔...你會不會想要我高潮呀?
他:當然想阿
我:那我們一起來研究這件事好不好
他:可以阿...我之前也很努力用了一個小時....
(他允諾後我就當他願意攤開溝通了)
我:恩..你是不是覺得女生只要一直插就會高潮了阿
我講這句話的本意是想暗示他...他努力的方向錯了....
但或許我不知道男生的想法
不知道這句話哪裡刺激到他..他聽了之後就很不開心說了一堆氣話
他口氣變得很差,直接對我坦白了
他說,其實他之前變的越來越少做愛,有一部份原因是對我的壓力很大
他工作很忙很累,但我又表示想要..
他就覺得我很無理取鬧...無法替他想替他體諒....
我越想要 他便壓力越大越不想做..
加上我都沒有高潮..他覺得自己努力過但還是一樣..這也是一部份壓力...
最後問我:你覺得不做愛就沒辦法在一起嗎?? (他覺得伴侶心靈相通就好)
我:我並沒有要求一定要高潮,如果協調過仍無法高X,那這樣一輩子也沒關係
我只是想要伴侶可以和我一起面對嘗試看看 若你連這樣也不想那就這樣吧
但他仍然覺得我是在看不起他,覺得我一直在怪他,下了重話
他說:
是,都是我無能,但身體是我自己的 我有自己選擇做不做的權力吧?
為什麼我工作很忙,還要因為你的要求配合你做我不想做的事?
我有要求你配合甚麼嗎? 那我以後要求你甚麼你也都能配合我嗎?
........
總覺得各講各的...有理說不清....越說彼此的疙瘩就越大..
最後還因為這種事情吵到掛電話說分手冷戰...
我的心情是...覺得自己很難過很委屈..不知道自己哪裡做錯了..
第一次遇到這麼不愛做愛的男友...
(也不是不愛做愛,他其實很硬也很想做愛...)
我自認這樣的頻率並不高,以前都是前男友在跟我討著做的。
而且也沒拿刀逼著他要做愛,他不要我也不曾勉強過他,
就只是偶爾親親抱抱的時候,顯示出很渴求的樣子(生理反應沒辦法阿)
但他總是下面硬硬的,口裡卻說工作很忙,摸摸我的頭要我冷靜一下
我不懂..
為何連這樣的程度也會造成他的壓力....
真的覺得好抑鬱...也對自己好自卑喔........
PS:
男友不是第一次交女友
之前有稍微問過,他和前任女友交往很多年..
性事都很正常女方也能高潮..但我就不行....
我想他內心某些部分應該是覺得我是有問題的...
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<span class="record">※ 編輯: mufu0090 時間: 2014-12-08 03:20:37</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">az23746950</span><span style="color:#808000">:不要自卑你們要看開點</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">az23746950</span><span style="color:#808000">:事情只要用別的角度看其實可以看的更多</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">az23746950</span><span style="color:#808000">:說不定是想要但怕被發現吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">az23746950</span><span style="color:#808000">:想要又沒膽</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tsaimojo</span><span style="color:#808000">:你沒問題,男人的問題,我朋友處女的、但是他很懶,做愛算是日常工作的一部分,並非所有處女的都這樣,而且浪費體力他不想、嘗試一次兩次不成功就會想放棄,以妳自己處女座的心去感受看待來想看看吧。事情應該不嚴重。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jk102</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以跟我做做看 (欸?!</span></div></pre>
cuteman0725
Re: [討論] 柯p新政進度條
http://disp.cc/b/25-8kcW
2014-12-05T11:42:07+08:00
2014-12-05T11:57:25+08:00
柯p新政進度條 | Facebook
開放政府,全民參與!來這快速檢視柯P新政的進度,評論施政是否有感,政策給不給轉彎
有這個網站很好啊
雖然最近柯P一直丟出政策議題,回饋都是反正兩極。
但一開始就拋政策出來讓人討論,至少比純綷包裝個人形象實在多了。
新市長上任一直提政策討論有什麼不好?
比起某些政治明星剛上任只會慢跑、游泳讓媒體報。
還是說他以前考試成績怎麼樣......這種包裝個人的新聞。
柯P剛上任就丟政策讓大家討論還比較實際。
大家比較會專注在政策討論上。
而並不是光只是探討政治人物的花邊新聞。
在政治上傾向對人不對事,這是人的本性,所以才會有八卦的產生。
遇到喜歡的就一直讚美,就算沒神格化也過度明君化了。
遇到不喜歡的就一直妖魔化。
看看 policy 板,有誰會去關心他?
柯P一直丟政策我不覺得有什麼不對
當政策被拿出來討論時,社會才有進步的可能
政治人物的個性和行為反而是其次 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cuteman0725 (Q麵)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [討論] 柯p新政進度條<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Dec 5 11:42:07 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《lch2011 (LCH)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: ※ [本文轉錄自 HatePolitics 看板 #1KW75-3h ]</span>
<span class="quote">: 作者: rockyue (...) 看板: HatePolitics</span>
<span class="quote">: 標題: [討論] 柯p新政進度條</span>
<span class="quote">: 時間: Thu Dec 4 22:36:44 2014</span>
<span class="quote">: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kpmeter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/kpmeter</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/kpmeter" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>柯p新政進度條 | Facebook</strong></a>
開放政府,全民參與!來這快速檢視柯P新政的進度,評論施政是否有感,政策給不給轉彎
</div></div> </div>
<span class="quote">: 有沒有這麼硬的監督團體?</span>
<span class="quote">: 台北市公務員塊逃阿~</span>
有這個網站很好啊
雖然最近柯P一直丟出政策議題,回饋都是反正兩極。
但一開始就拋政策出來讓人討論,至少比純綷包裝個人形象實在多了。
新市長上任一直提政策討論有什麼不好?
比起某些政治明星剛上任只會慢跑、游泳讓媒體報。
還是說他以前考試成績怎麼樣......這種包裝個人的新聞。
柯P剛上任就丟政策讓大家討論還比較實際。
大家比較會專注在政策討論上。
而並不是光只是探討政治人物的花邊新聞。
在政治上傾向對人不對事,這是人的本性,所以才會有八卦的產生。
遇到喜歡的就一直讚美,就算沒神格化也過度明君化了。
遇到不喜歡的就一直妖魔化。
看看 policy 板,有誰會去關心他?
柯P一直丟政策我不覺得有什麼不對
當政策被拿出來討論時,社會才有進步的可能
政治人物的個性和行為反而是其次
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<span class="record">※ 編輯: cuteman0725 (175.182.139.15), 12/05/2014 11:42:39</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lucy07030703/push?y=14" target="_blank">lucy07030703</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我跟你想法類似,政策是需要修改跟討論的</span><span class="push-right">1F 12/05 11:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/geniusturtle/push?y=14" target="_blank">geniusturtle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">2F 12/05 11:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ray2501/push?y=14" target="_blank">ray2501</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Good</span><span class="push-right">3F 12/05 11:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sd09090/push?y=14" target="_blank">sd09090</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 忘了露蛋蛋</span><span class="push-right">4F 12/05 11:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/minda723/push?y=14" target="_blank">minda723</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 拋出議題OK 但話別說太滿太快 不然給人政策大轉彎感覺</span><span class="push-right">5F 12/05 11:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Jeffery824/push?y=14" target="_blank">Jeffery824</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: push</span><span class="push-right">6F 12/05 11:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kenro/push?y=14" target="_blank">kenro</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 拋出議題很好 但同上面說柯P自己也要修正發言 要謹嚴慎行</span><span class="push-right">7F 12/05 11:47</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: cuteman0725 (175.182.139.15), 12/05/2014 11:49:44</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/james732/push?y=14" target="_blank">james732</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推討論</span><span class="push-right">8F 12/05 11:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/netstat/push?y=14" target="_blank">netstat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">9F 12/05 11:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LUB5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">LUB5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 其實我覺得發言無不妥,只是被媒體放大</span><span class="push-right">10F 12/05 11:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LUB5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">LUB5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不說話達不到討論效果,一說話被無限上綱</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/moto3g/push?y=14" target="_blank">moto3g</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: kmt:不管拉...說話反覆~朝令夕改~無經驗,要派網軍弄黑他</span><span class="push-right">12F 12/05 11:54</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">cynh</span><span style="color:#808000">:跳票紀錄條??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Freerunner</span><span style="color:#808000">:依照以前的進度,現在新聞還在猜誰是副市長。 就像國民黨現在一樣,要先放風聲,都是人的風聲 一直放一直放,上任1年都在談人事(除非颱風),重點是 吵一吵人事新聞後 當時的政見就不重要了。</span>
讚 cftyujmnbvgh:我同意你的想法,雖然柯p發言有時需要注意,但至少他比那些一般高官真!
→ <span style="color:#FF0">j-seven</span><span style="color:#808000">:柯P壞習慣,把台北市當成急診室,在醫院病人都乖乖聽醫生,但市長就不同了,不是所有人都會買單</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Rron</span><span style="color:#808000">:身為市民本來就應該關心市長提出的市政議題</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lost999</span><span style="color:#808000">:不關心議題 發生在自己身上才在靠北靠木</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a2774392</span><span style="color:#808000">:視聽大眾本身要有判斷能力</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aurum</span><span style="color:#808000">:真的要大刀闊斧改反對的本來就會很多 不然中國史上不會只有一個成功變法的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chen10m09d</span><span style="color:#808000">:讚</span></div></pre>
z358z358.
[網路] ptt 推文計算機
http://disp.cc/b/25-8fYF
2014-10-22T22:44:20+08:00
2014-11-07T20:35:18+08:00
軟體名稱:
ptt推文計算機
軟體資訊:
網頁
軟體功能:
可以計算ptt推文數、噓文數。
軟體特色:
可過濾只顯示推文、噓文
可隱藏不要的資訊 ex:隱藏推文內容 時間
貼上ptt網頁版網址,就可以算推文數了。
若有其他功能想新增可以推文或站內信
官方網站:
http://z358z358.pcro.co/ptt
Ptt推文計算機
Ptt推文計算機,只需要填入Ptt網頁版網址,就可以輕鬆知道推文位於第幾樓,也可以只看推文、噓文、箭頭。 ...
範例 http://ppt.cc/dXkm
ㄏㄏ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> z358z358 (zzzzzzzzz)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [網路] ptt 推文計算機<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Oct 22 22:44:20 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span>
ptt推文計算機
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span>
網頁
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span>
可以計算ptt推文數、噓文數。
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span>
可過濾只顯示推文、噓文
可隱藏不要的資訊 ex:隱藏推文內容 時間
貼上ptt網頁版網址,就可以算推文數了。
若有其他功能想新增可以推文或站內信
<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span>
<a href="http://z358z358.pcro.co/ptt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://z358z358.pcro.co/ptt</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://z358z358.pcro.co/ptt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Ptt推文計算機</strong></a>
Ptt推文計算機,只需要填入Ptt網頁版網址,就可以輕鬆知道推文位於第幾樓,也可以只看推文、噓文、箭頭。 ...</div></div>
</div>
範例 <a href="http://ppt.cc/dXkm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/dXkm</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://z358z358.pcro.co/ptt#http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1413390067.A.57A.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>ㄏㄏ</strong></a></div></div>
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<span class="record">※ 編輯: z358z358 (114.24.8.230), 10/22/2014 22:45:58</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SRNOB/push?y=14" target="_blank">SRNOB</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 本篇第50推 請吃雞排+奶茶</span><span class="push-right">1F 10/22 23:42</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/johnnyjaiu/push?y=14" target="_blank">johnnyjaiu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超實用!讚!</span><span class="push-right">2F 10/23 10:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pobynb/push?y=14" target="_blank">pobynb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 1F看準不會有50推嗎....蓋</span><span class="push-right">3F 10/23 16:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/storyofwind/push?y=14" target="_blank">storyofwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫蓋</span><span class="push-right">4F 10/23 16:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sate5232/push?y=14" target="_blank">sate5232</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 結果是第50樓要請就XD</span><span class="push-right">5F 10/23 18:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abccbaandy/push?y=14" target="_blank">abccbaandy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 比較希望能整合進各個BBS...XD</span><span class="push-right">6F 10/24 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/z358z358/push?y=14" target="_blank">z358z358</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不太清楚除了ptt以外的BBS XD</span><span class="push-right">7F 10/24 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abccbaandy/push?y=14" target="_blank">abccbaandy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒講清楚,我是指BBS client,PCMAN、PTTchrome之類的</span><span class="push-right">8F 10/24 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oToToT/push?y=14" target="_blank">oToToT</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只好來打廣告(?) <a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/EZsoft/M.1409754328.A.996.html" target="_blank"><a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/EZsoft/M.1409754328.A.996.html" target="_blank">#1K1oJOcM (EZsoft)</a></a></span><span class="push-right">9F 10/24 20:26</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oToToT/push?y=14" target="_blank">oToToT</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://ototot.github.io/BBS-Push/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ototot.github.io/BBS-Push/</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ototot.github.io/BBS-Push/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>推文樓層計算器</strong></a></div></div>
</div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/requiescatjr/push?y=14" target="_blank">requiescatjr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是你請我還是我請你???</span><span class="push-right">11F 10/25 20:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nadoka/push?y=14" target="_blank">nadoka</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蓋</span><span class="push-right">12F 10/27 04:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Daniel66/push?y=14" target="_blank">Daniel66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 餓了</span><span class="push-right">13F 10/27 22:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/apang/push?y=14" target="_blank">apang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 路過幫蓋</span><span class="push-right">14F 10/28 03:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ThisIsNotKFC/push?y=14" target="_blank">ThisIsNotKFC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老實說他那句有語病QQ</span><span class="push-right">15F 10/28 18:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KawasumiMai/push?y=14" target="_blank">KawasumiMai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒有語病啊,只是就各自解讀XD</span><span class="push-right">16F 10/28 21:14</span>
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TypeOtaku.
[少年] JUMP四本柱根本是同一個編劇作品吧(一起補完吧)
http://disp.cc/b/25-8fEJ
2010-02-26T22:59:09+08:00
2014-11-05T10:18:15+08:00
漫畫名 死紳 伙影 嗨賊王 臘人
主角設定篇
主角髮色 橘色 橘色 黑色 黑色
主角個性 熱血笨蛋 熱血笨蛋 熱血笨蛋 比較不那麼熱血笨蛋
主角最近在 救女主角與世界 救女主角與世界 救哥哥 救世界
(雖然沒人記得) (我應該沒說錯)
主角最大特點 好血統潛力無窮 好血統潛力無窮 好血統潛力無窮 好血統潛力無窮
相信我之術 持有 持有 持有 持有
相似度:70%
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漫畫名 死紳 伙影 嗨賊王 臘人
最近進度篇
棚內最近在 大決戰 大決戰 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Suckcomic </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> TypeOtaku (我要當型宅)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [少年] JUMP四本柱根本是同一個編劇作品吧(一起補完吧)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Feb 26 22:59:09 2010</div><hr color="#008080" />
漫畫名 死紳 伙影 嗨賊王 臘人
主角設定篇
<span style="color:#00F000">主角髮色 橘色 橘色 黑色 黑色</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">主角個性 熱血笨蛋 熱血笨蛋 熱血笨蛋 比較不那麼熱血笨蛋</span>
主角最近在 救女主角與世界 救女主角與世界 救哥哥 救世界
(雖然沒人記得) (我應該沒說錯)
<span style="color:#F0F000">主角最大特點 好血統潛力無窮 好血統潛力無窮 好血統潛力無窮 好血統潛力無窮</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000"></span>
<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="color:#F0F000">相信我之術 持有 持有 持有 持有</span></span>
<span style="color:#F00000"><span class="blink fg131 bg40">相似度:70%</span></span>
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漫畫名 死紳 伙影 嗨賊王 臘人
最近進度篇
<span style="color:#F0F000">棚內最近在 大決戰 大決戰 大決戰 大決戰</span>
對手是? 年輕帥哥 年輕帥哥 ???? 年輕帥哥
對手擅長 幻術 幻術 人數 基因數
<span style="color:#F0F000">最新進度? 老人在PK對手 老人在PK對手 老人在PK對手 老人在PK對手</span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">老人很強嗎? 無以復加的強 眼睛很多 頂天立地的強 接近克林的強</span>
老人特色 老人有白鬍子 老人眼睛很多 老人是白鬍子 老人有白鬍子
<span style="color:#00F000">那個老人現在 快掛了 掛了 快掛了 掛了 </span></div>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">老人最後戰略 同歸於盡 同歸於盡 同歸於盡 同歸於盡</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">有成功嗎? 失敗 失敗 快失敗了 快失敗了</span></div>
<span style="color:#F00000"><span class="blink fg131 bg40">相似度:80%</span></span>
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其實這四部漫畫作者是同一個人吧!
相似度高成這樣是怎麼回事啊!!!!
四部漫畫還有很多值得吐槽的點
但是我沒力氣寫了= =
希望大家一起來補完XD
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">cashko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鳴人應該算是金髮藍眼,很nice的,藍染算熟男吧XD</span><span class="push-right">53F 02/26 23:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">okiayu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人真的超好笑 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">54F 02/26 23:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mikoryo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:精闢中肯XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">55F 02/26 23:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fakeayumi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哇哈哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">56F 02/26 23:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hondobaka</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">57F 02/26 23:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">incubus</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你是少年跳跳的編輯嗎</span><span class="push-right">58F 02/26 23:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">NmoG</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑!!!!XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">59F 02/26 23:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">NEtw</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:厲害!! XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">60F 02/26 23:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MoonSkyFish</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還有就是主角都很會跳針</span><span class="push-right">61F 02/26 23:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Zinaida</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我相信你XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">62F 02/26 23:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">himamiya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">63F 02/26 23:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pololo61201</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">64F 02/27 00:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cjhvjh06</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個不推不行(滾)</span><span class="push-right">65F 02/27 00:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kimi1</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">66F 02/27 00:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">beliarken</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:快笑死我了 怎麼這麼中肯呀XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">67F 02/27 00:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">yuffie</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:精闢分析!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">68F 02/27 00:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kkdlin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人讚啦XD</span><span class="push-right">69F 02/27 00:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">circler</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:差點噴茶XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 我笑到肚子好痛啊XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">70F 02/27 00:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">muker</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人有白鬍子 老人眼睛很多 老人是白鬍子 老人有白鬍子XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">71F 02/27 00:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">PlumeBlue</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 DragonQuest:刺蝟頭 刺蝟頭 小刺 刺蝟頭 XD</span><span class="push-right">72F 02/27 00:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我最不爽的就是豬腳永遠有血統加持</span><span class="push-right">73F 02/27 00:07</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:明明很白癡卻一堆人中 "相信我" 幻術</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chiusna</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">75F 02/27 00:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">chiusna</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幾霸分</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我不懂"熱血笨蛋" 為什麼小日本這麼喜歡???</span><span class="push-right">77F 02/27 00:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mart9266</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">78F 02/27 00:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">okitakaede</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">79F 02/27 00:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">blackpikapi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠北超好笑的啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">80F 02/27 00:15</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">blackpikapi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:漫吐復活了!!!!!!!!!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pmtinameow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:崇拜是最遠的距離,日本人都太壓抑了才會喜歡熱血笨蛋</span><span class="push-right">82F 02/27 00:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">colaa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幾霸婚!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 我都沒發現耶!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">83F 02/27 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BerserkXElf</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難怪最近看連載都有即視感</span><span class="push-right">84F 02/27 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sunnychu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">85F 02/27 00:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tall19</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD笑死我了XDDD相似度超高!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">86F 02/27 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fallen0415</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">87F 02/27 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">oTrinitYo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這.......真是太強了</span><span class="push-right">88F 02/27 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">windinin</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原PO好強大!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD (爆笑到不行!)</span><span class="push-right">89F 02/27 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">junno1129</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不推不行XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">90F 02/27 00:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jidou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這好好笑XDDD</span><span class="push-right">91F 02/27 00:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cat6218ine</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:既視感XD 基因數也讓我笑了!</span><span class="push-right">92F 02/27 00:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Alanzx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Jump的作者是編輯群,其他人只是負責作畫的...XD</span><span class="push-right">93F 02/27 00:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Weib41</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這太經典了!!推!!</span><span class="push-right">94F 02/27 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bbbsmallt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:熱血笨蛋比較容易爆氣,冷靜聰明的通常想太多爆不太了氣</span><span class="push-right">95F 02/27 00:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dchris</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:JUMP吐爆啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">96F 02/27 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">DragonQuest</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可是庫拉皮卡暴氣也暴很大 XD</span><span class="push-right">97F 02/27 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hdyang</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好笑推一個</span><span class="push-right">98F 02/27 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tiest0913</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">99F 02/27 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chungyiju</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">100F 02/27 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cashko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為主角如果太聰明冷靜,作者會想不出符合主角邏輯的劇情</span><span class="push-right">101F 02/27 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">j022015</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">102F 02/27 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">devilkool</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">103F 02/27 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">t810312</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難怪我只有追其中一部卻看懂JUMP全部XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">104F 02/27 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:從這一點知道JUMP很討厭老人,喜歡笨蛋,這樣比較好控制吧</span><span class="push-right">105F 02/27 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">strive76</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈太強大了!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">106F 02/27 00:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跳跳對社會已經反感太久了,偏偏卻忘了主角卻有血統加持</span><span class="push-right">107F 02/27 00:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:自婊都不知道......看來上面的洗腦很成功呢 XD</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wo2323</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上層洗腦JUMP JUMP洗腦小孩 日本果然很傳統</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">neyuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小傑明明也是熱血笨蛋~XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">110F 02/27 00:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">melzard</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">111F 02/27 00:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">clearain</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我快笑爆了XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">112F 02/27 00:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">donnamonya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">113F 02/27 00:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">headiron</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太強了</span><span class="push-right">114F 02/27 00:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hyuchi0202</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚!!</span><span class="push-right">115F 02/27 00:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AyakaYukie</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爆!</span><span class="push-right">116F 02/27 00:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dustlike</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">117F 02/27 00:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">passpass</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">118F 02/27 01:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Cyclo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">119F 02/27 01:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BloodLust801</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:O_O難怪我覺得最近都在看一樣的東西</span><span class="push-right">120F 02/27 01:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">bbbsmallt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在沒有祭品可以犧牲的時候,最簡單的爆氣手段就是血統了</span><span class="push-right">121F 02/27 01:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">asakurakaino</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">122F 02/27 01:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">michaelch</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近老人很忙XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">123F 02/27 01:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">alan99</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯拉XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">124F 02/27 01:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shadowkobe</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超強XDD</span><span class="push-right">125F 02/27 01:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">anauma</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:摘要功力一流(拇指)</span><span class="push-right">126F 02/27 01:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ai0506</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">127F 02/27 01:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hategold</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人那一段也太好笑了XDD</span><span class="push-right">128F 02/27 01:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BSpowerx</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:克林是怎樣XD</span><span class="push-right">129F 02/27 01:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">HiLv</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:克林明明就是最強的地球人XD</span><span class="push-right">130F 02/27 01:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shikicomicer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">131F 02/27 01:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">DEATHSEI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了 原PO GJ!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">132F 02/27 01:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">neko415</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太精闢了啊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">133F 02/27 01:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">soulsurface</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">134F 02/27 01:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">amaruk</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈 從頭笑到尾XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">135F 02/27 01:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">imprintTime</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我明白富奸為什麼總是拖稿了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">136F 02/27 01:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">m3jp6cl4</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推血統都很好XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">137F 02/27 01:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bigboy821221</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">138F 02/27 01:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">meisterhaft</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">139F 02/27 01:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wwa928</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">140F 02/27 01:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AressGreen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是說克林是最強的地球人(普通人)嗎?</span><span class="push-right">141F 02/27 01:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sliva</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看了分析才發現其實我都在看一樣的東西XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">142F 02/27 01:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Shalone</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD太好笑了啦!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">143F 02/27 01:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sjory</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:基因數 看到狂聲大笑XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">144F 02/27 01:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bracewhite</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人正夯XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">145F 02/27 02:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cashko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 DragonQuest:刺蝟頭 刺蝟頭 小刺 刺蝟頭XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">146F 02/27 02:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hacoolman</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">147F 02/27 02:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Sechslee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到第2頁就快笑死了 先推 XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">148F 02/27 02:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">abian</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跳跳四個廠的進度控制的剛剛好 xdddddddd</span><span class="push-right">149F 02/27 02:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">maydagreen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠 我的腹筋好痛苦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">150F 02/27 02:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">illusionevil</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推XD</span><span class="push-right">151F 02/27 02:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kiloga</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得小傑也是熱血笨蛋~</span><span class="push-right">152F 02/27 02:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nimaj</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 但是最強的普通地球人 明明是飲茶~~~~~~ 克林沒鼻子</span><span class="push-right">153F 02/27 02:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nimaj</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:把亞姆茶放進JUMP的規則裡啊!~</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">eSAHv</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那是飲茶或樂平吧?什麼亞姆茶啊?(裝傻中)</span><span class="push-right">155F 02/27 02:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mardrea</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑的啊XD</span><span class="push-right">156F 02/27 02:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iQueen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">157F 02/27 02:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">askeiko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人害我笑到炸 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">158F 02/27 02:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cattle612</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人真是笑死我 XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">159F 02/27 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LBB801</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人是白鬍子沒錯啊XDDDDDD(笑倒)</span><span class="push-right">160F 02/27 02:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">windhsu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太屌了</span><span class="push-right">161F 02/27 02:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">qbeagle</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太屌了</span><span class="push-right">162F 02/27 02:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">timmerix</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">163F 02/27 03:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">allen851085</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:海賊王--對手是--大叔</span><span class="push-right">164F 02/27 03:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">drtgvc</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">165F 02/27 03:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wayfarer1021</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超中肯XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">166F 02/27 03:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ueu72312</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我真的快笑死了~XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">167F 02/27 03:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">anduril921</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太太太太太強了!!!!!!我在半夜十分狂笑難止啊!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">168F 02/27 03:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">SLcaptain</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:富奸表示:ㄟ?我休刊一年多剛好趕上你們(劇情)?</span><span class="push-right">169F 02/27 03:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chrissuen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">170F 02/27 03:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">govern</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD(笑掛)</span><span class="push-right">171F 02/27 04:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chyuan1031</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈哈 克林的強是怎麼回事XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">172F 02/27 04:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">CatAnna</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑死了啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">173F 02/27 04:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">celeris</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恍然大悟+1</span><span class="push-right">174F 02/27 06:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">voracious15</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:白鬍子好忙XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">175F 02/27 07:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tacoyan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:失敗-失敗-快失敗了-快失敗了.XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">176F 02/27 07:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gfneo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠XD超好笑的~~~~~~~~~~~~~XD</span><span class="push-right">177F 02/27 07:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ThreeNG</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">178F 02/27 07:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pirrysal</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">179F 02/27 07:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">THANKYOU2630</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!!!! 這不能不推啊!</span><span class="push-right">180F 02/27 07:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kyhkyh</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">181F 02/27 08:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">celsius273</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">182F 02/27 08:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Ryuei</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我要推 "快掛了 掛了 快掛了 掛了" 真是太GJ了 XDXDXDXD</span><span class="push-right">183F 02/27 08:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">quietvox</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">184F 02/27 09:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tomjack0405</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">185F 02/27 09:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">redlance</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">186F 02/27 09:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">NillY1027</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大笑啊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">187F 02/27 09:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Midoryugi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯樸實XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">188F 02/27 09:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joe075034</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">189F 02/27 10:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce1012</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠...大爆笑阿!!!真是夠中肯的!!</span><span class="push-right">190F 02/27 10:22</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce1012</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對了,海賊王的對手是"無數的年輕帥哥"吧?海軍嘛~不就是</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">joyce1012</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不就是年輕帥哥的聚散地??</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nonoise</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:戰國卡普猴雉犬等人:你這樣說我們也不會高興的啦 ((釁))</span><span class="push-right">193F 02/27 10:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">devidevi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:接近餃子的強 因為餃子會自爆.克林好像沒有自爆過..</span><span class="push-right">194F 02/27 10:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">nonoise</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有被爆過倒是真的</span><span class="push-right">195F 02/27 10:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">paladin90974</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是他被捏爆過...打冰箱的時候</span><span class="push-right">196F 02/27 10:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">helloken2006</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:也太好笑XDDD</span><span class="push-right">197F 02/27 11:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hamasakiayu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對手是萌貓啦~~~~</span><span class="push-right">198F 02/27 11:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">HughesMoo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">199F 02/27 11:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dannielz</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:精闢XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">200F 02/27 11:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">nccuer</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:通通沒在追 但這篇讓我狂笑XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">201F 02/27 11:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Orochimaru</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超棒的XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">202F 02/27 11:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">wewe123</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:魔法水國籃的阿夾也是橘色頭髮 脾氣暴躁...</span><span class="push-right">203F 02/27 11:36</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">wewe123</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">picklewind</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">205F 02/27 11:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gcobc12632</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GJ啊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">206F 02/27 11:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jjimmy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實臘人的主角,我覺得熱血笨蛋度也不低。反而是草莓的熱</span><span class="push-right">207F 02/27 11:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jjimmy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:血度較低,但他的笨蛋度(非學業成績)就比較高了。</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">jjimmy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:至於老人,除了會長外我覺得都不及當年武天老師犧牲的一半</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">pmtinameow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:無數的年輕帥哥wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww</span><span class="push-right">210F 02/27 11:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">omena</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">211F 02/27 11:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">barbossa</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超像的XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">212F 02/27 12:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bisconect</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:接近克林的強實在是太靠北了,會長一定很想揍你,哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">213F 02/27 12:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">loun951</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠北超強啊!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">214F 02/27 12:19</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">loun951</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人在PK對手 老人在PK對手 老人在PK對手 老人在PK</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Eva44</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯有笑點!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">216F 02/27 12:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">juliat</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:基因數是?@@我看不懂(掩面跑走)</span><span class="push-right">217F 02/27 12:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ru04ul4</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為蟻王的老母吃了很多各種不同的生物吧</span><span class="push-right">218F 02/27 12:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chicobo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">219F 02/27 12:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cjs010629</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跳跳總編:幹!被你發現了!</span><span class="push-right">220F 02/27 12:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">LACENI</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDCDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">221F 02/27 12:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">white07</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">222F 02/27 12:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mommomsun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太好笑了XDD 可轉就可嗎?</span><span class="push-right">223F 02/27 12:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">qoxjp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實大家都是聚在一起畫漫畫的XD</span><span class="push-right">224F 02/27 13:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pmtinameow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上講的很有暑假作業一大抄的感覺XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">225F 02/27 13:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">igetlost</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這才是漫吐阿!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">226F 02/27 13:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">badaismyall</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:救命阿~我笑的嘴巴好酸阿</span><span class="push-right">227F 02/27 13:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">KIRA1943</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯不推我...</span><span class="push-right">228F 02/27 13:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Ducati99</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">229F 02/27 13:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">alerzart</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">230F 02/27 13:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shadow0326</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">231F 02/27 13:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">BattleRoyale</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDXDXDDDD</span><span class="push-right">232F 02/27 13:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">webber0972</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推 那個獵人的老人還沒掛吧@@</span><span class="push-right">233F 02/27 13:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lucars</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雖然我不認同...我不過笑了XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">234F 02/27 13:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">xxlaws</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:無以復加的強 眼睛很多 頂天立地的強 接近克林的強XD</span><span class="push-right">235F 02/27 13:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">webber0972</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:@@" 抱歉...領便當了 無誤...</span><span class="push-right">236F 02/27 13:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Royen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">237F 02/27 13:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">osht9478</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯了幾霸婚啦!!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">238F 02/27 13:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">adonM</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:臘人其實主要是救凱特拉 順便救世界XD</span><span class="push-right">239F 02/27 13:49</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">adonM</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人最後戰略=同歸於盡 這點超好笑!!!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">MinChuan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">241F 02/27 13:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">pamela03</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇太強大了 笑死我XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">242F 02/27 13:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">brokenleg</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原PO優秀XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">243F 02/27 14:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bbsttt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:接近克林的強是什麼吐嘈法呀XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">244F 02/27 14:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">xtxml</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:前面我還覺得有點牽強,看到後面我快笑死XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">245F 02/27 14:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bohsing</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XXXXXXDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">246F 02/27 14:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shindais</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 小傑也是熱血笨蛋啦!</span><span class="push-right">247F 02/27 15:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">f1234518456</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:接近克林的強XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">248F 02/27 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lgtdeath</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD超好笑的啦!!!</span><span class="push-right">249F 02/27 15:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sroad</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈,接近克林的強</span><span class="push-right">250F 02/27 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fuutomatO</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:失敗 失敗 快失敗 快失敗XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">251F 02/27 16:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">GodDoubleK</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:GJ阿!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">252F 02/27 16:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chenlansue</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人正夯~~</span><span class="push-right">253F 02/27 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">xxx88550</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人有白鬍子 老人眼睛很多 老人是白鬍子</span><span class="push-right">254F 02/27 16:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">xxx88550</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cabochon0930</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">256F 02/27 16:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">huuban</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">257F 02/27 16:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">magicsiren</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">258F 02/27 16:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cloud7515</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是說RE蹦最近也在大決戰XD</span><span class="push-right">259F 02/27 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">f21490310</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">260F 02/27 16:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kindfrosch</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">261F 02/27 16:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">linsatsuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:主角也是刺蝟頭,也是在打帥哥,也有人想自爆</span><span class="push-right">262F 02/27 17:14</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">linsatsuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以里包恩是第五本</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Kondou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小傑有些地方很聰明 只是很固執</span><span class="push-right">264F 02/27 17:20</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Kondou</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小傑沒有要就世界吧 他只是要復仇</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">joe03</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我真的不能不推........</span><span class="push-right">266F 02/27 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">minjay0628</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯 這一定要推</span><span class="push-right">267F 02/27 18:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">grassjun</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推~~15秒看完跳跳XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">268F 02/27 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Novia0923</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太精闢了 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">269F 02/27 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">whiteflame</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嘴角失守......XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">270F 02/27 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">jlwhales</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑到不行XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 精闢!!bb</span><span class="push-right">271F 02/27 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Jyuling</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">272F 02/27 19:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mountainn</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDD超精闢</span><span class="push-right">273F 02/27 19:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mion106</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑的~一定要推的~</span><span class="push-right">274F 02/27 19:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kodato</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人特色:老人是白鬍子 XD</span><span class="push-right">275F 02/27 19:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dzihaenn</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鳴人不是金髮嗎? 還是他把頭髮穿在身上</span><span class="push-right">276F 02/27 19:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ArashiL</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人是白鬍子 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">277F 02/27 19:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">reiya</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今日最中肯XD</span><span class="push-right">278F 02/27 19:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kerryKing</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有理中肯推</span><span class="push-right">279F 02/27 20:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">c33uviiip0cp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不推對不起跳跳~~~推</span><span class="push-right">280F 02/27 20:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">doubleperson</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:戰術:幻術幻術人數基因數<---幹,好好笑</span><span class="push-right">281F 02/27 20:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">NicoNeco</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:克林真的很強 也有轟爆地球的實力 我相信會長作不到XD</span><span class="push-right">282F 02/27 20:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">paladin90974</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:克林大絕招氣圓斬真的很強..幾乎沒BOSS敢硬吃</span><span class="push-right">283F 02/27 21:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">FirstAngel</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到克林就忍不住笑了XDDD</span><span class="push-right">284F 02/27 21:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">chrisjohn214</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太經典了 推XD</span><span class="push-right">285F 02/27 21:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fatedice</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太厲害了XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">286F 02/27 21:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">reizarc</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:要命 笑翻了 非推一下不可 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">287F 02/27 21:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cashko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:年輕人都死到哪去了,現在是老人當道的時代嗎</span><span class="push-right">288F 02/27 21:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ejo8</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:( ̄▽ ̄)b GJ!</span><span class="push-right">289F 02/27 21:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">koala12337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">290F 02/27 22:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">notettu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:小傑也是熱血笨蛋......反而我覺得一護笨蛋有餘但不夠熱血</span><span class="push-right">291F 02/27 22:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cashko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這幾個在校成績最好的應該是一護XD</span><span class="push-right">292F 02/27 22:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">niehdan</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:經典加上中肯推XDDD</span><span class="push-right">293F 02/27 22:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">erilinda</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實一護一開始的形象不怎麼像熱血跳跳的 現在...(遠目)_</span><span class="push-right">294F 02/27 22:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">kzntkt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有劇情洩漏也不註明一下...被推文數騙進來被雷到= =</span><span class="push-right">295F 02/27 23:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">Auxo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上,漫吐「不禁雷」「不禁劇情洩漏」</span><span class="push-right">296F 02/27 23:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kzntkt</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喔 抱歉</span><span class="push-right">297F 02/27 23:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">dajon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有夠像XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">298F 02/27 23:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">PikaYu</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">299F 02/28 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">assddd0206</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這真是...太像了...能統整出來的原po也是一絕阿!!</span><span class="push-right">300F 02/28 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">noveler</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">301F 02/28 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Anzar</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">302F 02/28 00:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">luciferwing</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:獵人進展到會長掛了喔? 請問是第幾回啊好久沒看了XD</span><span class="push-right">303F 02/28 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">specialyung</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑了XDDDDXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">304F 02/28 01:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">spider</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你對將補未免太有愛了</span><span class="push-right">305F 02/28 01:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">elapid</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推XDDDD 看到四本柱老讓我想到獵人不是位在盤穩神功:P</span><span class="push-right">306F 02/28 01:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">monkeywu38</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太專業了 大推~~克林會長~~</span><span class="push-right">307F 02/28 02:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ru04ul4</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:畫漫畫就跟跑步游泳一樣...</span><span class="push-right">308F 02/28 02:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">cat5672</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大家做什麼你就做甚麼嘛</span><span class="push-right">309F 02/28 02:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kwekweice</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以我都討厭主角啊~我討厭熱血笨蛋啊~</span><span class="push-right">310F 02/28 02:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">moyue</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到整排的失敗就笑了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">311F 02/28 02:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">JohnnyWalker</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇太好笑了XD</span><span class="push-right">312F 02/28 10:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">trackR</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">313F 02/28 11:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">watercolor</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">314F 02/28 11:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gahanleeo</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">315F 02/28 11:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">lileyn</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以我們只要挑一部看就等於看四部,何而不樂?</span><span class="push-right">316F 02/28 11:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">flerow</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">317F 02/28 11:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">biglong5</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD 基因數我快笑死了!!!</span><span class="push-right">318F 02/28 12:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">bankaccount</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:諧音漫畫名也很好笑 這整理GJ啊</span><span class="push-right">319F 02/28 14:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rae0123</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推刺蝟頭,不過鳴子頭髮是黃色,衣服才是橘色XDE</span><span class="push-right">320F 02/28 14:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">sinz</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD幾霸婚</span><span class="push-right">321F 02/28 14:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ms0540017</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">322F 02/28 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gxp</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:分析精闢XDD</span><span class="push-right">323F 02/28 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">seda337</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到老人是白鬍子整個大笑!!!!!xddddddd</span><span class="push-right">324F 02/28 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">killualove</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 笑翻</span><span class="push-right">325F 02/28 17:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">killualove</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人在PK對手快笑死我了XDDDDDDDD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Diego29</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好棒的文章</span><span class="push-right">327F 02/28 20:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">newsandy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">328F 02/28 20:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">kiyosumi</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">329F 02/28 20:48</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">gcobc12632</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 NTUE-CS102</span> 02/28 21:21</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iiiey</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">330F 02/28 21:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">firingmoon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:短短3頁道盡一切XD</span><span class="push-right">331F 02/28 22:55</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">willyt</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 NDHU-His102</span> 02/28 23:00</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ooai</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:強者</span><span class="push-right">332F 02/28 23:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">george755185</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:蟻王是還真的是年輕帥哥哩XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">333F 02/28 23:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">vagabondfox</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有趣~</span><span class="push-right">334F 02/28 23:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">AHJ</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恍然大悟+1!!!</span><span class="push-right">335F 03/01 00:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">gcobc12632</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有經過作者同意轉載 忘了</span><span class="push-right">336F 03/01 00:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">gcobc12632</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:貼上去而已</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">saidon</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人"是"白鬍子 大笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">338F 03/01 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">shachine</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDXDXDXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD超好笑的XD</span><span class="push-right">339F 03/01 00:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rewds</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">340F 03/01 02:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ICHIRORONG</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來如此!!!! 快笑死了</span><span class="push-right">341F 03/01 02:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fishever</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD笑得肚子好痛</span><span class="push-right">342F 03/01 04:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">hildy</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">343F 03/01 11:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iruka6919</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD分析太好了~害我嘴角失守XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">344F 03/01 11:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">fullfeather</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幻術 幻術 人數 基因數XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">345F 03/01 12:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">akira0417</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老人們wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww</span><span class="push-right">346F 03/01 12:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">gacktspirit</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人數XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">347F 03/01 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Rubymail</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">348F 03/01 18:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">Tsuzuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到 老人 老人 老人 老人 我笑到停不下來</span><span class="push-right">349F 03/01 20:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">cashko</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇我看幾遍都笑XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">350F 03/01 21:05</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">foreverkemp</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Land_Volley</span> 03/01 21:40</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">mimimasao</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑 老人眼睛很多XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">351F 03/02 02:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tsp9326</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇真的太棒了!!!!哈哈 真精典呀!!!!</span><span class="push-right">352F 03/02 09:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">greatshiau</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">353F 03/02 22:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">rantea7m</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 「老人"是"白鬍子」XD</span><span class="push-right">354F 03/03 11:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">debitako</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑XDDDDDDDDDD 快失敗XDDD</span><span class="push-right">355F 03/03 21:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">paul012011</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:嗨賊王的老人狀態可以改了XD</span><span class="push-right">356F 03/03 22:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">D49361128</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">357F 03/03 22:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">madturtle</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推這篇 XD</span><span class="push-right">358F 03/04 06:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">inaegeansea</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">359F 03/04 13:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">xk4nk4zo4j4</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今年看完死神突然想到怎麼好像最近老人很多 看了這篇</span><span class="push-right">360F 03/04 22:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author">xk4nk4zo4j4</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:才恍然大悟啊XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ebian</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好笑到爆表 齁 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">362F 03/05 13:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">storyf66014</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">363F 03/05 15:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">frankiori</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啊啊 我剛剛才想到 平常沒看漫吐 來朝聖@@</span><span class="push-right">364F 03/05 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">milkyking78</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">365F 03/05 19:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">camel23</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑死推XDD</span><span class="push-right">366F 03/05 22:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">iamks</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:克林是最強的地球人</span><span class="push-right">367F 03/06 16:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">twchhmcs36</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幻術 幻術 人數 基因數XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">368F 03/09 12:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">camby0425</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:實在是有點好笑XDD</span><span class="push-right">369F 03/12 18:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ReveryLee</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:..................!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">370F 03/14 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">anubis0703</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:大推老人是白鬍子XDDD</span><span class="push-right">371F 03/31 12:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">myoutuki</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">372F 03/31 21:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">srj1986</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:朝聖!!</span><span class="push-right">373F 04/03 21:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">ffcc55</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDD嘴角失守</span><span class="push-right">374F 04/14 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">betteyyen</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD 媽阿 我快笑翻了</span><span class="push-right">375F 05/05 13:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author">tomrun168</span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:朝聖</span><span class="push-right">376F 05/29 19:36</span></div>
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dementia.
[分享] 好UI爛UI大車拼03 有關註冊表單兩三事
http://disp.cc/b/25-8aHX
2014-09-26T22:00:05+08:00
2014-10-03T13:50:11+08:00
網誌好讀版:
http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106856978
(麵評) 好UI爛UI大車拼03 有關註冊表單兩三事 @ 有個廚房 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::
這不是新題目。打從WEB時代就已經有許多前輩探討過表單,尤其是註冊表單,如何優化以提供使用者更好更快的服務。 時至今日,註冊表單的重要性不減反增,可是水準不升反降。 即使是大廠出品,也未必考慮周全&a ...
~ ~ ~ 本文開始 ~ ~ ~
這不是新題目。打從WEB時代就已經有許多前輩探討過表單,尤其是註冊表單
,如何優化以提供使用者更好更快的服務。
時至今日,註冊表單的重要性不減反增,可是水準不升反降。
即使是大廠出品,也未必考慮周全……
糟糕案例2號:讓註冊流程更長的註冊表單
APP資訊
APP名稱:Nike+ Running
版本資訊:1.4.2(Android)
這款APP,乍看之下其註冊表單簡潔清爽(哪一家不清爽XD),可是註冊流程
不順。
以我為例,小弟花了大約5分鐘,而且沒註冊完就放棄;而我也試了其他同類
型的,了不起2分鐘就搞定。如果 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> AndroidDev </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dementia (妖精尾巴魔導士)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [分享] 好UI爛UI大車拼03 有關註冊表單兩三事<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Sep 26 22:00:05 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
網誌好讀版:
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<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106856978" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>(麵評) 好UI爛UI大車拼03 有關註冊表單兩三事 @ 有個廚房 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::</strong></a>
<a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106856978" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="133" data-ori_h="200" style="width:133px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist_1411472362-4287529639.png_v=1411472370" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106856978" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="133" data-ori_h="200" style="width:133px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist_1411472362-4287529639.png_v=1411472370" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106856978" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="133" data-ori_h="200" style="width:133px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist_1411472362-1259391082.png_v=1411472370" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>這不是新題目。打從WEB時代就已經有許多前輩探討過表單,尤其是註冊表單,如何優化以提供使用者更好更快的服務。 時至今日,註冊表單的重要性不減反增,可是水準不升反降。 即使是大廠出品,也未必考慮周全&a ...</div></div>
</div>
~ ~ ~ 本文開始 ~ ~ ~
這不是新題目。打從WEB時代就已經有許多前輩探討過表單,尤其是註冊表單
,如何優化以提供使用者更好更快的服務。
時至今日,註冊表單的重要性不減反增,可是水準不升反降。
即使是大廠出品,也未必考慮周全……
<span style="color:#F00000">糟糕案例2號:讓註冊流程更長的註冊表單</span>
APP資訊
APP名稱:Nike+ Running
版本資訊:1.4.2(Android)
這款APP,乍看之下其註冊表單簡潔清爽(哪一家不清爽XD),可是註冊流程
不順。
<div class="combine-lines">以我為例,小弟花了大約5分鐘,而且沒註冊完就放棄;而我也試了其他同類
型的,了不起2分鐘就搞定。如果你也碰到類似的情形,請問你會比較想用哪
一款APP?會先排除哪一款呢?</div>
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-4287529639.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-4287529639.png</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="480" data-ori_h="800" style="width:480px;height:800px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-4287529639.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
在上一篇系列文中,我們討論過啟動畫面,因此不多贅述。
也許有些人用的是較高階的手機沒什麼感覺,但我這支中階手機,從黑屏到
啟動畫面再進入APP大約要5秒。
心裡浮現單一個字:慢。
然後出現了……咦!什麼是「服務無法使用」阿?
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-1259391082.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-1259391082.png</a>
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<div class="combine-lines">原來是要開啟網路連線的意思……我馬上就猜到了,可見我慧根不錯(?)。
重啟之後我終於要來註冊了。這款APP支援從第三方帳號匯入,這是一定要的
。我選擇用FB來註冊。</div>
然後悲劇就發生了……
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-2500555519.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472362-2500555519.png</a>
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只有帶入名字和e-mail,剩下還要自己填?填完送出才算註冊成功?哪招阿!
一格一格填吧,勞碌命喔~
<div class="combine-lines">從欄位下方的提示來看,Nike+ Running對密碼的要求還滿嚴格的。可是一般
來說,手機的鍵盤會佔去螢幕一半的空間,所以這些提示很可能因為位置不好
,而被遮住。</div>
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這是一個小細節,不難解決,只要麻煩工程師多寫幾行code就可以了(喂……
),但前提是你能注意到它。
另外,我們這裡要說一下「執行」--鍵盤右下角的那一顆鍵。
虛擬鍵盤是一個手機UI特有的細節。
在這裡,如果按下「執行」,會跳到下一個輸入欄位。因此這裡顯示「執行」
名實不符。
有一些APP更糟糕,名稱、功能全都沒改。一個常見的錯誤是在登入頁面,帳
號欄位配「執行」,這難道是在暗示使用者其實不用輸入密碼的意思?
你知道預設值是什麼嗎?每一種欄位的預設值都不太一樣喔。
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472363-1981541680.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472363-1981541680.png</a>
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手機表單裡一個最常見的問題就是:不當地使用選單對話框;如上圖。
<div class="combine-lines">有時候,選單對話框是一種很不用腦的處理方式。我們都知道,使用者並不喜
歡在幾十、上百個選項之間滾來滾去,可是因為對於廠商或開發者而言,這種
做法最輕鬆,所以很普遍。</div>
其實有很多解決方法,你可以考慮,例如:
1. 兩層式選單:將所有項目先分成5~8個群組,第二層選單平均就只剩下10~
20個。
2. 自動完成 + 提示。
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472363-2011982290.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411472363-2011982290.png</a>
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嗯,發生了什麼事呢?原來在我填好送出之後,被退回了!
不管是自動的即時檢查,還是在旁邊放一顆按鈕手動檢查,都可以,難道會很
難嗎?
現在可好,下面一堆欄位恢復空白,重填……嗎?
不,我可不想讓它有機會退第二次,誰有那個精神讓它這樣搞?至少我沒有,
所以這個APP因為這個註冊表單而被我反安裝了。
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[分享] 好UI爛UI大車拼02 用陰影增添層次感
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2014-09-21T21:42:59+08:00
2014-10-03T13:50:08+08:00
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在今年6月Android I/O,Material Design亮相。相信只要對手機UI設計有所涉獵的人都不陌生。 Material Design其特色之一「陰影」--利用影子來增加元件之間的層次感, ...
~ ~ ~ 本文開始 ~ ~ ~
在今年6月Android I/O,Material Design亮相。相信只要對手機UI設計有所
涉獵的人都不陌生。
Material Design其特色之一「陰影」--利用影子來增加元件之間的層次感
,如果能適度地使用陰影,UI便會更有格調。
這次麵下要介紹一款APP,它巧妙地使用了陰影。
http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411296962-509320682.jpg
經典案例1號:適度使用陰影增添層次感
APP資訊
APP名稱:tawkon手机辐射报警器
版本資訊:2.0.3.6 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> AndroidDev </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dementia (妖精尾巴魔導士)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [分享] 好UI爛UI大車拼02 用陰影增添層次感<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Sep 21 21:42:59 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
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<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106826021" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>(麵評) 好UI爛UI大車拼02 用陰影增添層次感 @ 有個廚房 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::</strong></a>
<a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106826021" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="133" data-ori_h="200" style="width:133px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist_1411129258-2432749229.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106826021" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="333" data-ori_h="200" style="width:333px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist_1411296962-509320682.jpg_v=1411296963" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://thisblogexist.pixnet.net/blog/post/106826021" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="133" data-ori_h="200" style="width:133px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist_1411129258-2432749229.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>在今年6月Android I/O,Material Design亮相。相信只要對手機UI設計有所涉獵的人都不陌生。 Material Design其特色之一「陰影」--利用影子來增加元件之間的層次感, ...</div></div>
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~ ~ ~ 本文開始 ~ ~ ~
在今年6月Android I/O,Material Design亮相。相信只要對手機UI設計有所
涉獵的人都不陌生。
Material Design其特色之一「陰影」--利用影子來增加元件之間的層次感
,如果能適度地使用陰影,UI便會更有格調。
這次麵下要介紹一款APP,它巧妙地使用了陰影。
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411296962-509320682.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411296962-509320682.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="400" data-ori_h="240" style="width:400px;height:240px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411296962-509320682.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F00000">經典案例1號:適度使用陰影增添層次感</span>
APP資訊
APP名稱:tawkon手机辐射报警器
版本資訊:2.0.3.6(Android)
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129258-2432749229.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129258-2432749229.png</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="480" data-ori_h="800" style="width:480px;height:800px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129258-2432749229.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
這款APP有啟動畫面(splash screen)。一般來說,使用者多會希望APP一開
啟就是操作頁面,因此啟動畫面或動畫往往只是一種干擾。
然而,也不是所有的啟動畫面都會令人反感:
1. 當使用者比較有耐心的時候
比方說休息、在家、或是只想用手機打發時間的時候,這和APP的使用場
合有很大的關係。
2. 啟動畫面很美
廠商或開發者希望多秀幾次logo,可是使用者只想看到養眼的畫面。
3. 不得不加點東西的時候
有時候因為網路連線、讀取資料庫等等,只有一個中間圈圈在轉,不只單
調更讓使用者沒安全感,這時候加個背景是再好不過了。
值得注意的是,與其放logo,改成一個跟下一頁相似的畫面可能更為加分
(請參照延伸閱讀1)。
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129259-933534284.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129259-933534284.png</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="480" data-ori_h="800" style="width:480px;height:800px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129259-933534284.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
在兩個地方,我們看到這款APP運用了陰影效果,上圖是其一,下圖是另一個
有用到陰影的地方。
<div class="combine-lines">從上圖的中間部分,也就是「分頁按鈕」,我們可以看到影子效果將整個畫面
切成上、中、下三個視覺區塊。上方區塊給人的感覺最厚、與使用者最近,中
間區塊次之,下方區塊最遠。</div>
除了陰影之外,顏色對比和那個小箭頭的設計都是值得留意的部分。
<a href="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129259-3193395477.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129259-3193395477.png</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="480" data-ori_h="800" style="width:480px;height:800px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://pic.pimg.tw/thisblogexist/1411129259-3193395477.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
這是tawkon的對話框。
和前面「分頁按鈕」不同的地方是,中間多出一條有點突兀的細線。很罕見的
設計。
<div class="combine-lines">會這樣做的主要原因,大概是因為兩顆按鈕是「平等」的,沒有誰先誰後、誰
重誰輕之分的關係,然後又為了配合陰影的設計,所以在中間加了一條細線。
<span style="color:#F00000">本篇完。請耐心等候續集……</span></div>
<span style="color:#00F000">延伸閱讀:</span>
1. 合適的 APP 啟動畫面 - Desiring Clicks
<a href="http://0rz.tw/n5r65" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://0rz.tw/n5r65</a>
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[轉錄] 慢速階梯踏板運動方法 & 體驗
http://disp.cc/b/25-87mY
2014-09-15T02:02:50+08:00
2014-09-15T02:02:50+08:00
原文
http://faith2hbl.pixnet.net/blog/post/94018380-慢速階梯踏板運動方法-&-體驗
慢速階梯踏板運動方法 & 體驗 @ My Life ~ Faith :: 痞客邦 PIXNET :: 這幾天常常下雨,嘗試在家中邊看電視邊做「慢速階梯踏板運動」, 這運動是之前看慢慢跑節目時,提到的不用跑步運動法, 適合在室內、雨天時、不能慢跑的人從事的運動。 試做了幾天(每次持續做30分鐘), ...
這幾天常常下雨,嘗試在家中邊看電視邊做「慢速階梯踏板運動」,
這運動是之前看慢慢跑節目時,提到的不用跑步運動法,
適合在室內、雨天時、不能慢跑的人從事的運動。
試做了幾天(每次持續做30分鐘),
發現這運動雖然簡單,但是每次做完後都滿身大汗,
運動效果真的不輸慢慢跑喔!
所以將「慢速階梯踏板運動」的影片及方法摘錄如下,方便以後復習,
有興趣的人也可以試試看 ~
老師沒教的事 20110606 正確慢跑運動保健康不用跑步運動法
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45wrEbjTynU
【學校老師沒教 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cuteman0725 (Q麵)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉錄] 慢速階梯踏板運動方法 & 體驗<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年09月15日 Mon. AM 02:02:50</div><hr color="#008080" />
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這幾天常常下雨,嘗試在家中邊看電視邊做「慢速階梯踏板運動」,
這運動是之前看慢慢跑節目時,提到的不用跑步運動法,
適合在室內、雨天時、不能慢跑的人從事的運動。
試做了幾天(每次持續做30分鐘),
發現這運動雖然簡單,但是每次做完後都滿身大汗,
運動效果真的不輸慢慢跑喔!
所以將「慢速階梯踏板運動」的影片及方法摘錄如下,方便以後復習,
有興趣的人也可以試試看 ~
老師沒教的事 20110606 正確慢跑運動保健康不用跑步運動法
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45wrEbjTynU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45wrEbjTynU</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45wrEbjTynU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>【學校老師沒教的事】正確慢跑保健康 - YouTube</strong></a></div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/45wrEbjTynU?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/45wrEbjTynU/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/bg1xy2fmGaM/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/bg1xy2fmGaM/</a>
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慢速階梯踏板運動
方法 :
1. 速度: 一分鐘踩80次的速度 ( 80次/min )
2. 踩出去的腳要交替,一開始是右腳上去的話,下一次要從左腳先上去
3. 要注意站上去時雙腳要伸直
4. 一次持續做10分鐘,每天做2~3次。(10 min/次,2~3次/day)
* 若不能久站(腰腿狀況不佳者),可扶柱子/牆,開始運動速度要更慢
踏板高度 20cm (可依狀況降低)
* 可邊看電視、聽音樂。
* 即使下雨也可以在室內做的運動。
要慢慢做,才會用到遲肌 (不會產生乳酸,因此是不會疲累的運動)
熱量消耗是走路的1.4倍 (慢慢跑是走路的1.6倍)
功效 :
除和慢慢跑具相似功效外 (血糖、中性脂肪、膽固醇、體重、血壓 下降),
l 可提升大腿肌力(筋肉) / 大腿肌肉的橫切面面積增加12% (慢慢跑達不到,效果比慢慢跑好) /使用肌肉是慢慢跑的2倍
l 亦可消解壓力、轉換心情 (效果比慢慢跑略差)
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[轉文] 慢慢跑不會累~
http://disp.cc/b/25-87mX
2014-09-15T01:57:57+08:00
2014-09-15T01:57:57+08:00
轉載自麥當勞部落格
慢慢跑:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/9-YZ5dkd75g/
續集:http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/bg1xy2fmGaM?FR=LIAN
麥當勞整理曰:
慢慢跑在1970年即提出,但經過40年的研究與驗證,最近才陸續發表公開。第一集提到慢慢跑(超慢跑,slow jogging),一些人出來分享親身經驗的功效,如降血壓、血脂、血糖,改善新陳代謝症與減重(因為可以增加23%的微血管,有助排出體內廢物);另外還可以讓腦部變大、情緒變好、記性增加…。速度是時速4~5公里 ( 半小時跑400公尺的跑道5~6圈 ),一天30分鐘,跑完臉不紅氣不喘就對了!
因為只用「遲肌」沒有用到「速肌」,不會產生累人的乳酸,所以不會累。片中3位本來都沒運動者,跑了一個月竟然都可以跑完10公里(速度還不慢)。
慢慢跑口訣: ( 1. 腳尖跑. 2.腳跟不要往後踢 3.要有往地面壓ㄉ感覺)
慢慢跑原則:
1.背脊打直 - 不前傾
2.抬下巴
3.掂著腳走 - 腳尖跑
4.小小 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> P_qman </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cuteman0725 (Q麵)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉文] 慢慢跑不會累~<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年09月15日 Mon. AM 01:57:57</div><hr color="#008080" />
轉載自麥當勞部落格
慢慢跑:<a href="http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/9-YZ5dkd75g/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/9-YZ5dkd75g/</a>
續集:<a href="http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/bg1xy2fmGaM?FR=LIAN" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/bg1xy2fmGaM?FR=LIAN</a>
麥當勞整理曰:
<div class="long_string">慢慢跑在1970年即提出,但經過40年的研究與驗證,最近才陸續發表公開。第一集提到慢慢跑(超慢跑,slow jogging),一些人出來分享親身經驗的功效,如降血壓、血脂、血糖,改善新陳代謝症與減重(因為可以增加23%的微血管,有助排出體內廢物);另外還可以讓腦部變大、情緒變好、記性增加…。速度是時速4~5公里 ( 半小時跑400公尺的跑道5~6圈 ),一天30分鐘,跑完臉不紅氣不喘就對了!</div>
<div class="long_string">因為只用「遲肌」沒有用到「速肌」,不會產生累人的乳酸,所以不會累。片中3位本來都沒運動者,跑了一個月竟然都可以跑完10公里(速度還不慢)。</div>
慢慢跑口訣: ( 1. 腳尖跑. 2.腳跟不要往後踢 3.要有往地面壓ㄉ感覺)
慢慢跑原則:
1.背脊打直 - 不前傾
2.抬下巴
3.掂著腳走 - 腳尖跑
4.小小步
5.腳步聲輕
6.不會喘氣
7.用你能夠不斷跟人說話ㄉ速度
這樣慢慢跑就不會累~ 因為 速度↑ ---> 乳酸↑ & 疲勞↑
節目中也補充說明,慢慢跑的訣竅是「步伐縮小」、「跑步聲縮小」,以及用「能否跟人順利說話」做為不產生乳酸的衡量。
永遠記住兩個重點:
a.縮小步伐
b.腳步聲小
節目中有很有趣的比喻..
「速肌」是比目魚 白色的
「遲肌」是鮭魚 洄游魚 紅色的 比較持久
片中3位本來都沒運動者,跑了一個月竟然都可以跑完10公里馬拉松比賽
比賽時..速度還不慢...原因是強化了...「遲肌」。
<div class="long_string">續集是介紹針對雨天時,和行動不便的老年人,不能外出的「懶人」運動替代方案,每天30分鐘的「slow step」(慢速階梯蹋版運動),在20公分的矮凳上下走(這種矮凳要去哪裡買呀?),除了跟慢慢跑功效相似之外,還更能提昇腿部肌肉。</div>
怕傷膝蓋及不外出 -
慢速階梯蹋版運動(慢慢做可用到遲筋而不產生乳酸)
右腳上一步階梯 左腳跟進
左腳下一步階梯 右腳跟進
之後 換
左腳上一步階梯 右腳跟進
速度也是慢
右腳下一步階梯 左腳跟進
<div class="long_string">麥當勞個人心得:我的眼睛4年多前因為長期看筆電螢幕,不知節制而受損,當時開車都有問題,求診也沒效,開車上高速公路就是大問題,無法開到時速80公里以上,無法超車,常常要開最右線道,跟在大卡車後面。沒辦法,只要超過時速80公里,就好像失去平衡感,很恐慌,方向盤快要抓不住似的!去年6月起,開始週二晚上到新莊與普拿大、北辰跑步之後(忘了當時為什麼要我跑步?),除了陸續經歷一些好玩的過程之外,最近才發覺,我好像可以在高速公路開到時速100以上了,恢復從前大約8成了吧!猜測應該是跑步時,腳底整個振動,刺激活化到腦部與視神經。</div>
跑步對於我的眼睛與開車的改善,只能說是無心插柳的結果。
<div class="long_string">對於初次下場者的建議是:千萬別覺得慢慢跑會很累、花容失色、疲憊不堪…既然它在跑完後還能正常聊天,就知道根本不費力,也不會產生乳酸,不會讓人跑一天就必須休息三天…買一雙好的跑步鞋(推薦腳底板寬的人買美津濃的),就可以好好的享受運動完的舒暢感了!</div>
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[閒聊] 日本節目--慢慢跑重點整理
http://disp.cc/b/25-87mU
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國興衛視播出的「老師沒教的事」當中,有二集是慢慢跑的專題
這二集的重點我剛好都有整理,有興趣的人可以參考一下
這個節目介紹的是慢慢跑,速度和快走差不多(時速4~6km),
大約是還可以跟人說話不喘氣的程度。
這樣作的原因有下:
1.在低速的運動下使用到的是遲肌
(肌肉有分速肌和遲肌二種,速肌有短時間的爆發力,遲肌可以比較持久),
2.乳酸在低速運下較不易堆積,所以不會疲累:
一般而言跑到10公里/小時以上即會快速堆積乳酸…不但容易累,也容易鐵腿。
而慢慢跑維持在不容易堆積乳酸的速度,比較不疲累
3.慢慢跑的卡路里比快走的卡路里消耗多1.6倍。
節目播出後,又作了一集來回應觀眾的問題(國興 20110606播出)
1.有沒有更輕鬆的運動?
老年人可以作慢速階梯踏板運動,
用高約20cm的階梯(更低也行,依能力而定),
左右腳交替反覆踩踏10分鐘(80次/分鐘的速度),
一天內作2~3次,和慢慢跑的效果差不多,而且可加強肌力。
2.不會傷腰腿的跑步姿勢?
節目作了一個實驗,馬拉松好手身體上下搖晃的幅度比
一般未經訓練的人小(長時間跑步下來的傷害也較小) ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> BeautyBody </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dodojune (歐巴桑)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [閒聊] 日本節目--慢慢跑重點整理<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jun 30 21:47:54 2011</div><hr color="#008080" />
國興衛視播出的「老師沒教的事」當中,有二集是慢慢跑的專題
這二集的重點我剛好都有整理,有興趣的人可以參考一下
這個節目介紹的是慢慢跑,速度和快走差不多(時速4~6km),
大約是還可以跟人說話不喘氣的程度。
這樣作的原因有下:
1.在低速的運動下使用到的是遲肌
(肌肉有分速肌和遲肌二種,速肌有短時間的爆發力,遲肌可以比較持久),
2.乳酸在低速運下較不易堆積,所以不會疲累:
一般而言跑到10公里/小時以上即會快速堆積乳酸…不但容易累,也容易鐵腿。
而慢慢跑維持在不容易堆積乳酸的速度,比較不疲累
3.慢慢跑的卡路里比快走的卡路里消耗多1.6倍。
節目播出後,又作了一集來回應觀眾的問題(國興 20110606播出)
<span style="color:#F0F000">1.有沒有更輕鬆的運動?</span>
老年人可以作慢速階梯踏板運動,
用高約20cm的階梯(更低也行,依能力而定),
左右腳交替反覆踩踏10分鐘(80次/分鐘的速度),
一天內作2~3次,和慢慢跑的效果差不多,而且可加強肌力。
<span style="color:#F0F000">2.不會傷腰腿的跑步姿勢?</span>
節目作了一個實驗,馬拉松好手身體上下搖晃的幅度比
一般未經訓練的人小(長時間跑步下來的傷害也較小),
一般人只需記得「步伐及跑步的聲音變小」上下的幅度就可以減低了。
<span style="color:#F0F000">3.慢慢跑一陣子之後,如果想再跑快一點可以嗎?</span>
不跑快的因同上原因(乳酸堆積),但經過一段間的慢慢跑訓練,
人體自然會提高耐受度,這時的乳酸閾值速度會往前改變,
如本來時速6km,可能會到時速7km,
所以想跑快一點的人可以保持個人的乳酸閾值速度(可以不斷跟人說話的速度)
這是就這個節目播出的內容所整理的,
對於初學者而言,這是一個很容易入門的運動方式
提供給想運動的人一個參考囉 ^_^
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PTTyui/push?y=11" target="_blank">PTTyui</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好想趕快試試看!! 但是只有一個人跑...</span><span class="push-right">8F 07/01 11:00</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PTTyui/push?y=11" target="_blank">PTTyui</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可能會一個人一直自言自語吧...XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dodojune/push?y=11" target="_blank">dodojune</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也是自己一個人跑操場,聽廣播一下就過了</span><span class="push-right">10F 07/01 16:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MICHAELSHENG/push?y=11" target="_blank">MICHAELSHENG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:熱心推喔</span><span class="push-right">11F 07/02 03:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MICHAELSHENG/push?y=11" target="_blank">MICHAELSHENG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今天試了一下 跑超慢 但心跳也很慢 這樣有用嗎</span></div>
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ballonflower.
[討論] 日本節目教的慢慢跑
http://disp.cc/b/25-87mT
2011-04-05T21:46:37+08:00
2014-09-15T01:39:04+08:00
剛剛看完國興[老師沒教的事],裡面介紹一種適合沒有運動習慣的人的運動方式
,説好處多多,跑個一個月,每天三十分鐘,降血壓,膽固醇,體脂,還可以增進大腦
前額葉46發育(可以加強人的決斷力和緩和情緒)和毛細血管的增加,減脂效果比
健走好,約為1.5倍。
參加試驗的三個中年中年男女,沒有運動習慣,第一天測試跑400m,
正常慢跑速度,停下來的第一句話都是好累,25天後大約以1時20分左右跑完10km,
達成以前無法想像可以完成的目標,反正說的很神奇就是了
以時速4~5km左右,姿勢為
1.背部打直,稍往前傾,腳板會微微前傾。
2.下巴不要內縮,要有點往上
3.腳步往下踩,不要往後踩,不要撇腿或是用力抬腿,輕輕跑就是了。
剛剛在家試跑,覺得不錯耶,不會很喘很痛苦,邊看電視就慢慢跑了一個小時 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> FITNESS </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> ballonflower (ballonflower)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [討論] 日本節目教的慢慢跑<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Apr 5 21:46:37 2011</div><hr color="#008080" />
剛剛看完國興[老師沒教的事],裡面介紹一種適合沒有運動習慣的人的運動方式
,説好處多多,跑個一個月,每天三十分鐘,降血壓,膽固醇,體脂,還可以增進大腦
前額葉46發育(可以加強人的決斷力和緩和情緒)和毛細血管的增加,減脂效果比
健走好,約為1.5倍。
參加試驗的三個中年中年男女,沒有運動習慣,第一天測試跑400m,
正常慢跑速度,停下來的第一句話都是好累,25天後大約以1時20分左右跑完10km,
達成以前無法想像可以完成的目標,反正說的很神奇就是了
以時速4~5km左右,姿勢為
1.背部打直,稍往前傾,腳板會微微前傾。
2.下巴不要內縮,要有點往上
3.腳步往下踩,不要往後踩,不要撇腿或是用力抬腿,輕輕跑就是了。
剛剛在家試跑,覺得不錯耶,不會很喘很痛苦,邊看電視就慢慢跑了一個小時
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ballonflower/push?y=11" target="_blank">ballonflower</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得跑的慢衝擊比較小,應該不會比較傷膝蓋</span><span class="push-right">2F 04/05 22:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kevin751021/push?y=11" target="_blank">kevin751021</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑得慢會傷膝蓋?何解?</span><span class="push-right">3F 04/05 22:23</span></div>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kwangkwang/push?y=11" target="_blank">kwangkwang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而不小熱量消耗也不如快走(之前板上也有人說過) 我沒跑</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kwangkwang/push?y=11" target="_blank">kwangkwang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:過時速4-5km 所以才有第1個疑問</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yjw691/push?y=11" target="_blank">yjw691</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慢慢跑比較適合剛入門的人吧 對已經有固定習慣的人來說</span><span class="push-right">9F 04/06 06:49</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yjw691/push?y=11" target="_blank">yjw691</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用自己不會累的速度來跑就可以了 節目中也有一個是剛入門</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yjw691/push?y=11" target="_blank">yjw691</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慢慢跑 到後來時速也提高到7kph 所以速度應該是因人而異吧!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AAAdolph/push?y=11" target="_blank">AAAdolph</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:1小時20跑完10km,時速4~5km?不對吧?</span><span class="push-right">12F 04/06 08:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peterwu4/push?y=11" target="_blank">peterwu4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這種就所謂燃脂的跑法了,就是用自己最自在的速度去跑,</span><span class="push-right">13F 04/06 11:19</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peterwu4/push?y=11" target="_blank">peterwu4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不怕慢,反而忌貪快。 我也是類似這樣在跑,現在都一天能</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peterwu4/push?y=11" target="_blank">peterwu4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑個十來公里了,不知不覺中喔</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/beckseaton/push?y=11" target="_blank">beckseaton</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在在重播</span><span class="push-right">16F 04/06 11:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cocu1313/push?y=11" target="_blank">cocu1313</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看的好開心的跑法XD</span><span class="push-right">17F 04/06 21:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joseph103331/push?y=11" target="_blank">joseph103331</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推跑得自在</span><span class="push-right">18F 04/07 15:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MysterySW/push?y=11" target="_blank">MysterySW</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:節目的醫生有說呀 原本就有慢跑習慣的不需要改變</span><span class="push-right">19F 04/08 02:03</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MysterySW/push?y=11" target="_blank">MysterySW</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個是給想入門的人方便跳坑用的XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jususluvme/push?y=11" target="_blank">jususluvme</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:老實說,對我來說真的另外有一點幫助,因為體力沒這麼</span><span class="push-right">21F 04/11 03:41</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jususluvme/push?y=11" target="_blank">jususluvme</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好,反而慢慢跑時間拉長之後又能負擔是養成習慣好方法</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bonjour41015/push?y=11" target="_blank">bonjour41015</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也是這樣跑,太久沒運動了想要培養運動習慣</span><span class="push-right">23F 04/22 21:52</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bonjour41015/push?y=11" target="_blank">bonjour41015</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:第一天去慢跑才兩圈喘到不行,後來看到其他跑者,有人</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bonjour41015/push?y=11" target="_blank">bonjour41015</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跑的很慢但跑很久,我就學他這樣跑發現自己終於可以負</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bonjour41015/push?y=11" target="_blank">bonjour41015</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:荷這樣的運動覺得很開心就會繼續跑下去</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">TL</span><span style="color:#808000">:Qman借轉慢跑系列文!!!</span></div></pre>
erspicu.
[推薦] Flickr照片HTML碼輸出工具
http://disp.cc/b/25-879F
2014-09-12T18:02:24+08:00
2014-09-13T23:35:41+08:00
軟體名稱:
Flickr Uploader HTML Builder
軟體資訊:
免安裝.
需要 .NET FRAMEWORK 4.0
軟體功能:
本款軟體設計是藉由 flickr提功的 Oauth 認證 API
來達成照片上傳與上傳後得取相關資訊,最後輸出樣式化HTML碼的功能
軟體特色:
照片全部上傳完畢,直接透過樣版輸出格式化的html碼方便貼到Blog上去使用.
官方網站:
縮網址 http://tinyurl.com/lwtyz32
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61164954/project/
flickr_uploader_html_builder/index.htm
下載連結:
http://tinyurl.com/lwtyz32
推薦原因:
給有相同需要的人
誰適合用:
有玩blog.攝影而且有用flickr相簿的人
誰不適合用:
沒玩blog.沒在拍照.沒申請flickr相簿的人
使用感想:
簡單易用
附註:
PS.為啥我不直接用BLOG提供的相簿服務? 因為傳上去的照片多數blog相簿還會壓縮,
有些人不介意,但對我來說 ...]]>
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<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span>
Flickr Uploader HTML Builder
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span>
免安裝.
需要 .NET FRAMEWORK 4.0
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span>
本款軟體設計是藉由 flickr提功的 Oauth 認證 API
來達成照片上傳與上傳後得取相關資訊,最後輸出樣式化HTML碼的功能
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span>
照片全部上傳完畢,直接透過樣版輸出格式化的html碼方便貼到Blog上去使用.
<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span>
縮網址 <a href="http://tinyurl.com/lwtyz32" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/lwtyz32</a>
<a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61164954/project/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61164954/project/</a>
flickr_uploader_html_builder/index.htm
<span style="color:#00F000">下載連結:</span>
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/lwtyz32" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/lwtyz32</a>
<span style="color:#FFF">推薦原因:</span>
給有相同需要的人
<span style="color:#FFF">誰適合用:</span>
有玩blog.攝影而且有用flickr相簿的人
<span style="color:#FFF">誰不適合用:</span>
沒玩blog.沒在拍照.沒申請flickr相簿的人
<span style="color:#FFF">使用感想:</span>
簡單易用
<span style="color:#FFF">附註:</span>
PS.為啥我不直接用BLOG提供的相簿服務? 因為傳上去的照片多數blog相簿還會壓縮,
有些人不介意,但對我來說畫質可以看得出來受到影響,
因此我現在偏好將照片傳到flickr後,再從flikcr引用照片到自己的blog上.
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dhzzzj.
[情報] 與人擠人說再見,電子商城選購筆電
http://disp.cc/b/25-85WK
2014-07-30T22:17:27+08:00
2014-09-09T10:11:46+08:00
與人擠人說再見,電子商城選購筆電較電腦應用展更具優勢
資料來源:http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/
與人擠人說再見,電子商城選購筆電較電腦應用展更具優勢 - VR-Zone 中文版
一年一度的電腦應用展又來了,在網路發達的年代,似乎很多時候我們可以透過網路完成選購筆電這回事。 臺北電腦應用展從 7 月 31 日為期 5 天,在世貿展覽館開展,過去一直都是開學季前的風向球,甚至出現「多少棟 101 高度」當作筆電銷售形容詞的電腦應用展,似乎已經到了一個極限。 或許,這凸顯筆電已經面對一個轉變,大家對筆電汰換的需求已經逐漸減少,也或許,這類型大展已經不是消費者選購產品的一個場所。 台灣在北中南擁有一定規模的電腦賣場,而所謂電腦應用展、資訊月或者是春季電腦展之類的展覽通常只是將這些賣場中的店家集合起來,由原廠提供攤位,讓各家業務在會場中販售該品牌的商品。 實質上,跟你去一般賣場 ...
一年一度的電腦應用展又來了,在網路發達的年代,似乎很多時候我們可以透過網路完成
選購筆電這回事。
臺北電腦應用展從 7 月 31 日為期 5 天,在世貿展覽館開展,過去一 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> nb-shopping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dhzzzj (寫不完~)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] 與人擠人說再見,電子商城選購筆電<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Jul 30 22:17:27 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
與人擠人說再見,電子商城選購筆電較電腦應用展更具優勢
資料來源:<a href="http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>與人擠人說再見,電子商城選購筆電較電腦應用展更具優勢 - VR-Zone 中文版</strong></a>
<a href="http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="495" data-ori_h="200" style="width:495px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/twimages.vr-zone.net/2014_07_螢幕快照-2014-07-30-下午9.27.35.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="300" data-ori_h="200" style="width:300px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/twimages.vr-zone.net/2014_07_10572719_10152663281762650_356752701_o-665x443.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a><a href="http://chinese.vr-zone.com/122808/" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="300" data-ori_h="200" style="width:300px;height:200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/twimages.vr-zone.net/2014_07_10578083_10152663281787650_69195144_o-665x443.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>一年一度的電腦應用展又來了,在網路發達的年代,似乎很多時候我們可以透過網路完成選購筆電這回事。 臺北電腦應用展從 7 月 31 日為期 5 天,在世貿展覽館開展,過去一直都是開學季前的風向球,甚至出現「多少棟 101 高度」當作筆電銷售形容詞的電腦應用展,似乎已經到了一個極限。 或許,這凸顯筆電已經面對一個轉變,大家對筆電汰換的需求已經逐漸減少,也或許,這類型大展已經不是消費者選購產品的一個場所。 台灣在北中南擁有一定規模的電腦賣場,而所謂電腦應用展、資訊月或者是春季電腦展之類的展覽通常只是將這些賣場中的店家集合起來,由原廠提供攤位,讓各家業務在會場中販售該品牌的商品。 實質上,跟你去一般賣場 ...</div></div>
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一年一度的電腦應用展又來了,在網路發達的年代,似乎很多時候我們可以透過網路完成
選購筆電這回事。
<div class="combine-lines">臺北電腦應用展從 7 月 31 日為期 5 天,在世貿展覽館開展,過去一直都是開學季的風
向球,甚至還一度用筆電售出已堆了多少棟 101 當作形容詞的電腦應用展,似乎已經到
了一個極限。</div>
或許,這凸顯筆電已經面對一個轉變,大家對筆電汰換的需求已經逐漸減少,也或許,這
類型大展已經不是消費者選購產品的一個場所。
<div class="combine-lines">台灣在北中南擁有一定規模的電腦賣場,而所謂電腦應用展、資訊月或者是春季電腦展之
類的展覽通常只是將這些賣場中的店家集合起來,由原廠提供攤位,讓各家業務在會場中
販售該品牌的商品。</div>
<span style="color:#00F000">實質上,跟你去一般賣場買筆電並沒有太多的差異。</span>
<div class="combine-lines">可能你會說,電腦應用展上,<span style="color:#F0F000">筆電的價格會比較便宜、比較好殺價、贈品也比在賣場來的</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">多之類的想法</span>,但俗語說的很好,<span style="color:#F00000">殺頭生意有人做,賠錢生意沒人做,這些羊毛都是出在</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">羊身上,廠商只是換一個方式,包裝後,將產品賣給各位。</span></div>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">筆記型電腦的成本,是由原廠所掌控,各家的銷售業務只是跟隨著價格在走</span>,價格顯得比
較便宜,也許是因為業務不想賺那麼多,或者是老闆交待只要將筆電賣走就可,但有時候
千萬別以為撿到便宜。</div>
<span style="color:#F00000">更不要說,有時候比價比到最後,並沒有比較便宜,還需面對一些業務員的糟口氣。</span>
<div class="combine-lines">另外,由於<span style="color:#00F000">店家都來自集中商圈,可能交貨地點並不會設在會場裏面,因此你從展覽館離</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">開後,還得到交貨地點領取筆電</span>,<span style="color:#F0F000">在業務員交待不清楚的情況下,偶爾可能會出現交機錯</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">誤的情況,甚至還可能缺貨而被迫更改型號</span>。</div>
<span style="color:#F00000">這都還好,最糟的是沒貨裝有貨,然後一直拖延交機時間。</span>
<div class="combine-lines">現階段,筆記型電腦的型號非常多,不要說身為讀者的大家,甚至是我們,有時候也會被
規格搞混,因此進入到人擠人或是業務比人多的展覽館,在被緊迫盯人的情況下,各位能
夠好好的去挑選適合自己的筆電,或者是被業務員牽著鼻子走?</div>
相信,很多人屬於後者。
這個時候,<span style="color:#F0F000">電子商城就俱有一個相當明確的優勢,那就是可以清楚明白的查到筆記型電腦</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">的確切規格以及價格</span>
我們活在網路發達的年代,台灣擁有 PChome、ASAP 以及 Yahoo!購物中心等不少電子商
城,何不考慮直接在這些地方選購筆電。
<div class="combine-lines">也許大家會說,<span style="color:#00F000">這些平台的筆電價格比較貴,但隨著電腦應用展的開展,其實這些電商都</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">推出一些優惠方案,加上一些信用卡公司的折扣優惠,以及無息分期付款等,實際上買下</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">來,可能會跟你去一般門市差不多。</span></div>
在<span style="color:#F00000">集中商圈刷卡有時候必須要加 3% 的手續費,更不要說你要分期的話,那個費用還得另</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">計</span>。
<div class="combine-lines">提到這個,可能會覺得現金支付比較便宜,但如同前面提到,<span style="color:#00F000">筆電的成本是固定的,這端</span>
<span style="color:#00F000">取決於店家的模式而定,有可能會比較便宜,並非絕對</span>。好比說 Apple 經銷商若是要衝
銷售台數的話,現場成交價有機會比網路上要低一些,此外在展覽館內的 Apple 經銷商
大部份屬於大型連鎖通路,因此可以免去刷卡 3% 手續費以及分期的問題。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">此外,<span style="color:#F0F000">電子商城購買到不心儀的規格時,在 7 天內可無條退貨</span>;<span style="color:#F00000">一般通路,在 7 天內出</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">現問題,只能換貨,不能退貨,甚至因為缺貨問題只能走維修流程</span>。如果這台筆電不符合
使用需求,那很抱歉,你只能專售給親友,一般通路無法讓你退貨。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">網路優閒比較、不用在會場人擠人、週邊商品一次買齊、刷卡分期不用額外費用、專人送
貨到府、買貴直接退貨或者是 7 天內無條件退貨等優勢,我想,很多時候,其實在電子
商城直接選購一台筆電,會比你到展覽上去要實在許多。</div>
<span style="color:#F0F000">多看、多聽、多想,絕對是你在選購產品的不二法則,千萬不要因業務的一些話術影響而</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">在沒有謹慎思考的情況下產生衝動簽訂訂單。</span>
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連知名的3C新聞站都說了~
所以明天大家進場時多多注意阿
昨天晚上udn已經開始婊r30了
我猜r30網購加上一些回饋,網購端應該有機會出現24900這樣可怕的價格
實體賣場如果跟進到23500 可能會虧喔
只能說 加油啦
買到自己想要的機器優先
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ericx790101/push?y=14" target="_blank">ericx790101</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推D大!!</span><span class="push-right">1F 07/30 22:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dhzzzj/push?y=14" target="_blank">dhzzzj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:希望團購團可以拿到好價格</span><span class="push-right">2F 07/30 22:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sFKP/push?y=14" target="_blank">sFKP</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我去看UDN的價格為什麼現在是26900啊@@</span><span class="push-right">3F 07/30 22:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知道若團購直接跟網購談最低,可以談到多少?</span><span class="push-right">4F 07/30 22:41</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且,現在購物金發了幾百萬出來有了吧...</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:26900 *0.9 =24210,沒這水準,大概準備跑單</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:26900 大概發現嚇死人或者被抗議,緊急減少優惠程度吧...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dhzzzj/push?y=14" target="_blank">dhzzzj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:昨晚我有看到25900的價</span><span class="push-right">8F 07/30 22:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過能省一千也好,因為改八月刷卡,還可以登記刷卡金回饋</span><span class="push-right">9F 07/30 22:45</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我都看到啦,很多人都看到,若手腳夠快又有購物金的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不貪刷卡金的可能就直接買了</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maniaque/push?y=14" target="_blank">maniaque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我現在只能等購物金退回來,才能再訂購.....</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dhzzzj/push?y=14" target="_blank">dhzzzj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實就我認知的筆電市場 店家應該做不太到25K以下的金額</span><span class="push-right">13F 07/30 22:47</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dhzzzj/push?y=14" target="_blank">dhzzzj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但團購有可能基礎價在25K</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dhzzzj/push?y=14" target="_blank">dhzzzj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另外 資展的優勢 再過一兩次應該就會少很多了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sFKP/push?y=14" target="_blank">sFKP</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:希望有搶到俗的朋友把價抱出來,也提升大家議價的籌碼</span><span class="push-right">16F 07/30 22:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說真的,建議要去展場買可沒參加團購的,可以參考網購售價</span><span class="push-right">17F 07/30 23:06</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:去談價錢,好比R30A來說,先不看UDN的超誇張購物金,光是MOMO</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:28900-2000 再扣掉信用卡刷卡金回饋 700~1200吧</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:=28900-2000-1000=26900 刷卡分期開發票,這價碼如果業務做</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不到就不用浪費時間了,如果可以再來談現金發票價</span></div>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span class="fgY1 bgL">再一次提醒大家,購買前多看、多思考,冷靜一點優先,</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgY1 bgL">置底文有驗機、還有一些基本概念教學。建議進到展場時,帶著智慧手機去,</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgY1 bgL">方便查價,跟思考,加油各位!</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不然一直被問「你問到多少」真的是很煩....</span><span class="push-right">22F 07/30 23:13</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: dhzzzj (114.32.68.47), 07/30/2014 23:14:39</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/datehsiling/push?y=14" target="_blank">datehsiling</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上次去真的一直被問「你問到多少」XD</span><span class="push-right">23F 07/30 23:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dhzzzj/push?y=14" target="_blank">dhzzzj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:明天我應該會去看一下XDDD</span><span class="push-right">24F 07/30 23:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lattesheep/push?y=14" target="_blank">lattesheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:電腦展的重點不是電腦是秀個露阿</span><span class="push-right">25F 07/30 23:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lattesheep/push?y=14" target="_blank">lattesheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:顆顆.....</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lattesheep/push?y=14" target="_blank">lattesheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有些業務也是挺漂亮的(菸)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lattesheep/push?y=14" target="_blank">lattesheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好啦我來鬧的~倒是有很多實機可以隨意亂摸</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lattesheep/push?y=14" target="_blank">lattesheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:壓壓看堅不堅固~組裝品質什麼的~網購就無法這樣</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推個查價的網站<a href="http://www.feebee.com.tw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.feebee.com.tw</a> 資料還滿齊的</span><span class="push-right">30F 07/30 23:58</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.feebee.com.tw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Feebee 飛比價格 比價網</strong></a>
飛快比價,比了再買 ...</div></div>
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<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">G41271</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/G41271/push?y=14" target="_blank">G41271</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:D大我挑個骨頭你別介意, 等式右邊應為25900</span><span class="push-right">31F 07/31 00:08</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dejavu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dejavu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Orz...我錯了,這樣看好便宜喔 XD</span><span class="push-right">32F 07/31 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nan0205/push?y=14" target="_blank">nan0205</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">33F 07/31 01:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/moooQQ/push?y=14" target="_blank">moooQQ</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很猶豫 i3 還是i5啊 @@</span><span class="push-right">34F 07/31 12:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RUKM/push?y=14" target="_blank">RUKM</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹過業務 真的很討厭去資訊展</span><span class="push-right">35F 08/06 00:26</span></div>
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jubel.
Fw: [請問] 有沒有軟體可以鎖住光碟機?
http://disp.cc/b/25-86iM
2014-09-06T13:19:25+08:00
2014-09-09T01:15:36+08:00
WIN7 64位元系統
因為我家三歲的小孩都會按光碟機的按鈕把托盤放出來玩
所以想說用軟體鎖住托盤
用過wineject 但不知道是不是軟體太舊
設定為鎖住後按了按鍵一樣會跑出來...
目前是直接把光碟機電源線拔掉
但想用時就要拆機殼裝回去...
請問有沒有軟體可以強制鎖住光碟機托盤的?
謝謝 ...]]>
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WIN7 64位元系統
因為我家三歲的小孩都會按光碟機的按鈕把托盤放出來玩
所以想說用軟體鎖住托盤
用過wineject 但不知道是不是軟體太舊
設定為鎖住後按了按鍵一樣會跑出來...
目前是直接把光碟機電源線拔掉
但想用時就要拆機殼裝回去...
請問有沒有軟體可以強制鎖住光碟機托盤的?
謝謝
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://bit.ly/1u8qRt9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1u8qRt9</a></span><span class="push-right">1F 09/06 13:53</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/evanade/push?y=14" target="_blank">evanade</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 已經好多年沒用到光碟機了</span><span class="push-right">2F 09/06 14:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ptt0219/push?y=14" target="_blank">ptt0219</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 外接光碟機表示~~</span><span class="push-right">3F 09/06 14:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jubel/push?y=14" target="_blank">jubel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 1F謝了 筆電可以用 回家再試桌上型</span><span class="push-right">4F 09/06 15:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wkwtb/push?y=14" target="_blank">wkwtb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 熱融膠放電腦旁</span><span class="push-right">5F 09/06 20:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wkwtb/push?y=14" target="_blank">wkwtb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 手一伸出來就巴下去</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pda2001/push?y=14" target="_blank">pda2001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 光碟機皮帶老舊 不用軟體鎖 按也退不出來 要插針開</span><span class="push-right">7F 09/06 21:33</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pda2001/push?y=14" target="_blank">pda2001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以要硬解的話 就拆開 把"橡皮筋"拿掉 即可</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pda2001/push?y=14" target="_blank">pda2001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 拆掉要用還得再裝,拆掉皮帶要用只要插針即可開</span><span class="push-right">10F 09/08 02:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/t0042380/push?y=14" target="_blank">t0042380</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 要拆那個 拔插頭還反而方便吧XD</span><span class="push-right">11F 09/08 10:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tvbic/push?y=14" target="_blank">tvbic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 買一條皮帶抽小孩比較快</span><span class="push-right">12F 09/08 21:08</span></div>
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a78615.
[新聞] 瑞士公司發明「隱形椅」 走到哪坐到哪
http://disp.cc/b/25-85Db
2014-08-25T23:47:47+08:00
2014-09-05T00:29:38+08:00
1.媒體來源:
大紀元
2.完整新聞標題/內文:
瑞士公司發明「隱形椅」 走到哪坐到哪
http://s1.djyimg.com/i6/1408250523011664--ss1.jpg
瑞士Noonee公司研發出一種由機械外骨骼組成的「隱形椅」,可隨身攜帶並隨時坐下。(
視頻擷圖)
【大紀元2014年08月25日訊】(大紀元記者陳俊村編譯報導)長期站著工作可能會影響身
體健康,但工作場所不一定有椅子可坐。為了解決這樣的問題,瑞士研究人員發明了一種
由機械外骨骼組成的「隱形椅」,沒有實體的椅子卻能讓人隨時坐下,這對需要長時間站
立工作的人可謂是一項福音。
這款被命名為「Chairless Chair」的產品由瑞士Noonee公司所開發,它由鋁和碳纖維製
成,利用皮帶將一套支架緊扣在腰間和大腿旁,再由連接鞋子的避震器支撐體重。
「Chairless Chair」的重量只有2公斤,在放入一顆6V電池後,它就能夠使用24小時。使
用者在想坐下時,只要讓身體蹲下,並按下按鈕,就能讓外骨骼鎖定而凌空坐著。在不使
用時,這種椅子能保持貼在使用者身邊,不影響正常走路。
Noonee公司聲稱,這項 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> a78615 (XD)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [新聞] 瑞士公司發明「隱形椅」 走到哪坐到哪<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Aug 25 23:47:47 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
1.媒體來源:
大紀元
2.完整新聞標題/內文:
瑞士公司發明「隱形椅」 走到哪坐到哪
<a href="http://s1.djyimg.com/i6/1408250523011664--ss1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s1.djyimg.com/i6/1408250523011664--ss1.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="449" data-ori_h="270" style="width:449px;height:270px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://s1.djyimg.com/i6/1408250523011664--ss1.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
瑞士Noonee公司研發出一種由機械外骨骼組成的「隱形椅」,可隨身攜帶並隨時坐下。(
視頻擷圖)
<div class="combine-lines">【大紀元2014年08月25日訊】(大紀元記者陳俊村編譯報導)長期站著工作可能會影響身
體健康,但工作場所不一定有椅子可坐。為了解決這樣的問題,瑞士研究人員發明了一種
由機械外骨骼組成的「隱形椅」,沒有實體的椅子卻能讓人隨時坐下,這對需要長時間站
立工作的人可謂是一項福音。</div>
這款被命名為「Chairless Chair」的產品由瑞士Noonee公司所開發,它由鋁和碳纖維製
成,利用皮帶將一套支架緊扣在腰間和大腿旁,再由連接鞋子的避震器支撐體重。
<div class="combine-lines">「Chairless Chair」的重量只有2公斤,在放入一顆6V電池後,它就能夠使用24小時。使
用者在想坐下時,只要讓身體蹲下,並按下按鈕,就能讓外骨骼鎖定而凌空坐著。在不使
用時,這種椅子能保持貼在使用者身邊,不影響正常走路。</div>
Noonee公司聲稱,這項發明可以讓需要整天站著工作的工人提高生產力,因為它減低了肌
肉不適問題,讓他們感覺更舒適,其產出效率自然會提高。
<div class="combine-lines">Noonee公司CEO古納拉(Keith Gunura)表示,這項產品的設計靈感來自於他17歲時打工
的經驗。當時他在英國包裝工廠工作,因長時間站著操控機器,很想讓身體隨時能坐下。
古納拉說,站立幾小時會導致下肢承受許多壓力,但大多數工人很少有休息時間或椅子可
坐下,因為椅子會佔據生產線的空間。他於是想出了這個點子,解決了長時間站立而沒有
椅子可坐的問題。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">除了生產線之外,「Chairless Chair」也可提供給需要長期站立的人使用,例如:手術
室內的醫生、戶外取景的攝影師等,甚至在搭乘地鐵時,如果找不到位置,也可使用這項
產品隨時坐下。</div>
目前尚不清楚這項產品的售價是多少。
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-jON9Bmg38" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-jON9Bmg38</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-jON9Bmg38" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>The CHAIRLESS CHAIR, an INVISIBLE CHAIR that you CAN WEAR BREAKING NEWS 2014 - YouTube</strong></a> For more latest and breaking news headlines... SUBSCRIBE: - The CHAIRLESS CHAIR, an INVISIBLE CHAIR that you CAN...</div></div>
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3.新聞連結:
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<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/14/8/25/n4232974.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>瑞士公司發明「隱形椅」 走到哪坐到哪 | 椅子 | 站立 | 健康 | 大紀元</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="449" data-ori_h="270" style="width:449px;height:270px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://img.epochtimes.com/i6/1408250523011664--ss1.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>長期站著工作可能會影響身體健康,但工作場所不一定有椅子可坐。為了解決這樣的問題,瑞士研究人員發明了一種由機械外骨骼組成的「隱形椅」,沒有實體的椅子卻能讓人隨時坐下,這對需要長時間站立工作的人可謂是一項福音。 - 科技新聞 ...</div></div>
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Wcw5504
[推薦] StrokesPlus 滑鼠手勢
http://disp.cc/b/25-83gr
2014-08-23T22:59:45+08:00
2014-08-24T11:39:09+08:00
軟體名稱:StrokesPlus
軟體資訊:v2.8.2 支援Windows XP SP2以後系統
軟體功能:使用滑鼠畫出圖形後,執行特定行為
軟體特色:
1.分為免安裝和安裝版本
2.支援32-bit和64-bit
3.使用Lua作為觸發行為的媒介,可以做到的事情更多
官方網站:http://www.strokesplus.com/
下載連結:http://ppt.cc/Epp6
推薦原因:
StrokeIt已經久久沒更新,難保在以後的系統也能正常運作
相較之下這款就改得蠻勤快的,據說在Win8的Metro介面上也能用
由於是使用Lua語言,可以組合的行為比起Strokeit要來得多
比如官網上的這二個用於瀏覽器的範例,就很典型:
1.複製分頁 http://www.strokesplus.com/scripts/21
2.開新連結/新分頁 http://www.strokesplus.com/scripts/2
P.S.若同時使用Firefox+Firegesture的話,需手動新增到排除名單裡
免得FX的手勢失效。
誰適合用:
需要使用滑鼠手勢的人
使用GC ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Wcw5504 (五月雨)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [推薦] StrokesPlus 滑鼠手勢<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sat Aug 23 22:59:45 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span>StrokesPlus
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span>v2.8.2 支援Windows XP SP2以後系統
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span>使用滑鼠畫出圖形後,執行特定行為
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span>
1.分為免安裝和安裝版本
2.支援32-bit和64-bit
3.使用Lua作為觸發行為的媒介,可以做到的事情更多
<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span><a href="http://www.strokesplus.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.strokesplus.com/</a>
<span style="color:#00F000">下載連結:</span><a href="http://ppt.cc/Epp6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/Epp6</a>
<span style="color:#FFF">推薦原因:</span>
StrokeIt已經久久沒更新,難保在以後的系統也能正常運作
相較之下這款就改得蠻勤快的,據說在Win8的Metro介面上也能用
由於是使用Lua語言,可以組合的行為比起Strokeit要來得多
比如官網上的這二個用於瀏覽器的範例,就很典型:
1.複製分頁 <a href="http://www.strokesplus.com/scripts/21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.strokesplus.com/scripts/21</a>
2.開新連結/新分頁 <a href="http://www.strokesplus.com/scripts/2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.strokesplus.com/scripts/2</a>
P.S.若<span style="color:#F00000">同時使用Firefox+Firegesture</span>的話,需<span style="color:#F0F000">手動新增到排除名單</span>裡
免得FX的手勢失效。
<span style="color:#FFF">誰適合用:</span>
需要使用滑鼠手勢的人
使用GC(IE),又希望在內部頁面使用滑鼠手勢的人
除了瀏覽器之外,也想在其他程式使用滑鼠手勢的人
<span style="color:#FFF">誰不適合用:</span>
懶得自行設定手勢行為的人
已經很習慣StrokeIt的人
使用Firefox+Firegesture,並已十分滿意的人
不需要/不想用滑鼠手勢的人
<span style="color:#FFF">使用感想:</span>
一般最常用的指令應該就是<span style="color:#00F000">acSendKeys</span>了,效果等同於StrokeIt直接設定快速鍵
不過<span style="color:#F000F0">某些按鍵需使用特定的寫法</span>,例如<span style="color:#008080">Ctrl要標成^</span>,<span style="color:#008080">Shift要標成+</span>
這部分在說明頁有更詳盡的解說,就不贅述了
雖然這套軟體用Lua也有相對不直觀的缺點,
不過熟悉之後,這問題反而可能變成重大的優勢
<span style="color:#FFF">附註:</span>簽名版在Win7似乎開不起來,<span style="color:#F0F000">使用Unsigned版本即可</span>
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實測時,資源占用多半在300k上下。
我是覺得犧牲那一點記憶體來換功能,算是蠻划算的投資啦。
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kaoru7568
Re: [請問] 你願意花錢買的軟體?求推薦
http://disp.cc/b/25-82Q8
2014-08-17T22:31:35+08:00
2014-08-22T09:36:06+08:00
前文43
也是用聰明手機後開始買了些正版軟體(Solid Explorer/Dropsync/鈦備份/超注音...etc)
Steam平台也噴了很多正版遊戲,所以來推一些自己在用的的工具軟體
桌機Win7 學校版、筆電WIN8還是學校版
音樂播放
Spotify-149NTD/月;當然你一直申請新帳號是可以不斷試用1個月XD
foobar2000
MHC
收支記帳
iCompta2-ios app,不可考XD 特價60或90吧
系統清除
CCleaner- free
防毒
Outpost Secure Suite 3PC終身版1200左右
(但是他常常在送1年序號讓我頗嘔)
之前的卡巴斯基大特價系列買給家裡電腦用 8年/990NTD
Adguard 沒說很好用,不過半買半相送就不計較了XD
沙盒軟體
Sandboxie 終身版,大約4年前有半價600多買的;現在應該只有賣1年授權的
PDF文件製作
PDFXCview- 免費版就夠用了
方便小工具系列
Rainlendar Pro 特價4.95歐元
Lastpass 專業版-學生免費6個月+Heartbleed免費6個月, ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> kaoru7568 (鏡音俺嫁)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [請問] 你願意花錢買的軟體?求推薦<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Aug 17 22:31:35 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
前文43
也是用聰明手機後開始買了些正版軟體(Solid Explorer/Dropsync/鈦備份/超注音...etc)
Steam平台也噴了很多正版遊戲,所以來推一些自己在用的的工具軟體
桌機Win7 學校版、筆電WIN8還是學校版
音樂播放
Spotify-149NTD/月;當然你一直申請新帳號是可以不斷試用1個月XD
foobar2000
MHC
收支記帳
iCompta2-ios app,不可考XD 特價60或90吧
系統清除
CCleaner- free
防毒
Outpost Secure Suite 3PC終身版1200左右
(但是他常常在送1年序號讓我頗嘔)
之前的卡巴斯基大特價系列買給家裡電腦用 8年/990NTD
Adguard 沒說很好用,不過半買半相送就不計較了XD
沙盒軟體
Sandboxie 終身版,大約4年前有半價600多買的;現在應該只有賣1年授權的
PDF文件製作
PDFXCview- 免費版就夠用了
方便小工具系列
Rainlendar Pro 特價4.95歐元
Lastpass 專業版-學生免費6個月+Heartbleed免費6個月,之後一年12鎂
->或者換 PasswordBox.com 現在跟三爽合作有終身帳號可以申請,等LP到期再說
True Launch Bar 利用TrialPay拿的,等特價買也不貴
cFOS Speed 很久以前用150左右買的
Uninstall Tool protable license,個人覺得比Revo好用
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is1128.
[推薦] Dr.eye 雲端版 - 免費功能的 Dr.eye
http://disp.cc/b/25-81Gn
2014-08-05T08:20:49+08:00
2014-08-17T00:51:46+08:00
軟體名稱: Dr.eye 雲端版
軟體資訊: 正體中文/需安裝/40MB左右/可支援 Windows 8.1
軟體功能: 可以搭配 Chrome/IE/Firefox 做即時翻譯了
而且之前要付費,現在好像是基本功能全免費了
軟體特色: 目前免費版好像只有即時翻譯功能不錯
剩下的全文翻譯跟生字筆記都還普普
官方網站: http://www.dreye.com
首頁
下載連結: http://yun.dreye.com//product/web_cloud.php
Dr.eye 雲端版
Dr.eye譯典通X版,內建豐富中英日辭典,並在雲端提供多國語詞句、地方語詞句庫與各行業英漢漢英專業詞典。最新功能─神奇魔術筆、趣味生字筆記與個性化英文能力分析 ...
點免費下載即可
推薦原因: 其實之前都有買付費版,不過功能真的太多,覺得啟動有點慢
現在已經出免費的版本,而且必要的功能都有
看起 ...]]>
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<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span> Dr.eye 雲端版
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span> 正體中文/需安裝/40MB左右/可支援 Windows 8.1
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span> 可以搭配 Chrome/IE/Firefox 做即時翻譯了
而且之前要付費,現在好像是基本功能全免費了
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span> 目前免費版好像只有即時翻譯功能不錯
剩下的全文翻譯跟生字筆記都還普普
<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span> <a href="http://www.dreye.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dreye.com</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.dreye.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>首頁</strong></a></div></div>
</div>
<span style="color:#00F000">下載連結:</span> <a href="http://yun.dreye.com//product/web_cloud.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://yun.dreye.com//product/web_cloud.php</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://yun.dreye.com//product/web_cloud.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Dr.eye 雲端版</strong></a>
Dr.eye譯典通X版,內建豐富中英日辭典,並在雲端提供多國語詞句、地方語詞句庫與各行業英漢漢英專業詞典。最新功能─神奇魔術筆、趣味生字筆記與個性化英文能力分析 ...</div></div>
</div>
點免費下載即可
<span style="color:#FFF">推薦原因:</span> 其實之前都有買付費版,不過功能真的太多,覺得啟動有點慢
現在已經出免費的版本,而且必要的功能都有
看起來台灣軟體真的大不易阿,付費的版本也出免費版了
<span style="color:#FFF">誰適合用:</span> 只需要即時翻譯跟生字筆記,啟動速度快
<span style="color:#FFF">誰不適合用:</span> 需要 Office 的翻譯,以及要離線使用的人
以前付費板可以離線使用,現在免費的版本一定要連網了
<span style="color:#FFF">使用感想:</span> 有裝了之後,發現上英文網站方便多了
以前的版本都有點過多沒用到的東西,導致覺得有點慢
現在快多了,功能也簡單,最主要是居然免費啦!
<span style="color:#FFF">附註:</span>
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kawasumimai
[自製] Mai Config Sync v0.95
http://disp.cc/b/25-81Go
2014-07-31T00:10:09+08:00
2014-08-17T00:51:50+08:00
軟體名稱:
Mai Config Sync v0.95
軟體資訊:
Win 7/8/8.1 確認執行
免安裝
中/日文版
軟體功能:
依據設定備份AppData內的資料夾,進行軟體設定備份
軟體特色:
類似同步軟體
為Windows內的AppData而特化專用
並省去設定多組同步組的麻煩
官方網站:
無
下載連結:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/iw4uf6aaua7op6q/Mai_Config_Sync_v0.95.zip
Mai Config Sync v0.95
Mai Config Sync v0.95.zip ...
推薦原因:
自製
誰適合用:
想要備份AppData內的設定的人
誰不適合用:
不想備份的人,習慣使用還原軟體的人
使用感想:
徵求中(?
附註:
http://i.imgur.com/ov7SdV ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> KawasumiMai (さあ、死ぬがいい)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [自製] Mai Config Sync v0.95<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jul 31 00:10:09 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span>
Mai Config Sync v0.95
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span>
Win 7/8/8.1 確認執行
免安裝
中/日文版
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span>
依據設定備份AppData內的資料夾,進行軟體設定備份
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span>
類似同步軟體
為Windows內的AppData而特化專用
並省去設定多組同步組的麻煩
<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span>
無
<span style="color:#00F000">下載連結:</span>
<a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/iw4uf6aaua7op6q/Mai_Config_Sync_v0.95.zip" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediafire.com/download/iw4uf6aaua7op6q/Mai_Config_Sync_v0.95.zip</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/iw4uf6aaua7op6q/Mai_Config_Sync_v0.95.zip" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Mai Config Sync v0.95</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="250" data-ori_h="250" style="width:250px;height:250px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://cdnssl.mediafire.com/images/filetype/download/zip.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>Mai Config Sync v0.95.zip ...</div></div>
</div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推薦原因:</span>
自製
<span style="color:#FFF">誰適合用:</span>
想要備份AppData內的設定的人
<span style="color:#FFF">誰不適合用:</span>
不想備份的人,習慣使用還原軟體的人
<span style="color:#FFF">使用感想:</span>
徵求中(?
<span style="color:#FFF">附註:</span>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/ov7SdVC.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/ov7SdVC.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div class="quote" style="max-width:100%;width:1024px"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/ov7SdVC.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>imgur</strong> [檢視原始大小(1241x753)]</a>
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會寫這個是因為....
自從Win7之後一堆遊戲的存檔都放在這裡面
結果重灌忘記備份就不見了= =
有任何問題歡迎回報
總覺得介面還需要好好重新設計一下....
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<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"> </span><span style="color:#000">▲ </span>▲ <span style="color:#808000"> <span style="color:#000"></span></span>▼<span style="color:#000"></span>▼ <span style="color:#F000F0">◥█<span style="background-color:#800080">█◤██</span></span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800080"><span style="background-color:#000">▄</span></span></span><a href="http://youtu.be/EKzHyUFp87Y" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/EKzHyUFp87Y</a></div>
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eight0.
Re: [推薦] Comic Crawler 扒圖工具
http://disp.cc/b/25-81Gp
2014-07-17T22:22:31+08:00
2014-10-04T12:04:36+08:00
Download Here:
http://x.co/54nww
Comic_Crawler
目前支援網站︰
comic.ck101.com www.pixiv.net www.99comic.com manhua.dmzj.com
deviantart.com www.8comic.com konachan.com www.dm5.com
comic.sfacg.com g.e-hentai.org exhentai.org
這篇主要介紹新功能--圖書館
在任務列表選擇任務後點右鍵 -> 加入圖書館
http://i.imgur.com/3kf8OWV.png
http://i.imgur.com/KbEekwS.png
在圖書館內的任務會保留你的下載記錄,
並且在程式啟動時會自動重新分析是否有更新。
如果在新增一般任務時,勾選集數的地方有選擇跳過不載的,
加入圖書館後,分析時也會被跳過。
另外在新增一般任務時,會檢查這個網址是否存在圖書館裡,
若是存在圖書館裡,會直接使用圖書館內的記錄。
所以如果要重新 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> eight0 ( )<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [推薦] Comic Crawler 扒圖工具<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jul 17 22:22:31 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
Download Here:
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目前支援網站︰
comic.ck101.com www.pixiv.net www.99comic.com manhua.dmzj.com
deviantart.com www.8comic.com konachan.com www.dm5.com
comic.sfacg.com <span style="color:#000">g.e-hentai.org exhentai.org</span>
這篇主要介紹新功能--圖書館
在任務列表選擇任務後點右鍵 -> 加入圖書館
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/3kf8OWV.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/3kf8OWV.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/3kf8OWV" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="540" data-ori_h="446" style="width:540px;height:446px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/3kf8OWV.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/KbEekwS.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/KbEekwS.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/KbEekwS" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="516" data-ori_h="438" style="width:516px;height:438px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/KbEekwS.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
在圖書館內的任務會保留你的下載記錄,
並且在程式啟動時會自動重新分析是否有更新。
如果在新增一般任務時,勾選集數的地方有選擇跳過不載的,
加入圖書館後,分析時也會被跳過。
另外在新增一般任務時,會檢查這個網址是否存在圖書館裡,
若是存在圖書館裡,會直接使用圖書館內的記錄。
所以如果要重新下載,記得先把圖書館內的記錄刪除。
圖書館分析完後,點「下載更新」可以把有更新的記錄加入任務列表,
點「開始下載」就能下載了。
還請各位多回報 bug!記得附上錯誤網址 or 寫一下是怎麼遇到錯誤的!
也歡迎提網站支援!
未來預計得裝的功能︰
垂直捲軸 in 任務列, 圖書館
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yjn/push?y=14" target="_blank">yjn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問30個檔案要怎麼一次下載?</span><span class="push-right">1F 07/18 08:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝。這幾天在外面,等回家後再來測試。</span><span class="push-right">2F 07/18 15:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:>yjn 必竟這不算什麼官方工具,一次下載全部還可能被鎖IP</span><span class="push-right">3F 07/18 18:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以目前還是維持逐一下載的功能</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ThisIsNotKFC/push?y=14" target="_blank">ThisIsNotKFC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝,有用有推</span><span class="push-right">5F 07/18 19:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goodmelon/push?y=14" target="_blank">goodmelon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:越來越好用了,讚</span><span class="push-right">6F 07/19 08:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyosin/push?y=14" target="_blank">kyosin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:照讀我檔安裝完PYTHON,但安裝不了PyExecJS,不知道哪出錯</span><span class="push-right">7F 07/19 19:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyosin/push?y=14" target="_blank">kyosin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只說pip不是被認得的外部或內部指令,不知少做哪步驟了。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:pip 的預設位置在 C:\Python34\Scripts\pip.exe</span><span class="push-right">9F 07/20 01:48</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果檔案存在的話 試試用完整路徑</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:C:\Python34\Scripts\pip install pyexecjs</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果檔案不存在,檢查一下安裝 python 時有沒有安裝 pip</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://i.imgur.com/5SfiHoG.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/5SfiHoG.png</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/5SfiHoG" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="499" data-ori_h="428" style="width:499px;height:428px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/5SfiHoG.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyosin/push?y=14" target="_blank">kyosin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝e大,成功了,要用完整路徑才行。</span><span class="push-right">14F 07/20 12:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我把 \download, setting.ini save.dat copy 到新的</span><span class="push-right">15F 07/21 15:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:comiccrawler,將以前的漫畫加入圖書館執行更新,</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有錯誤訊息'Mission' object has no attribute 'update'</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:漫畫檔案一定要從頭抓嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上的bug已修正!</span><span class="push-right">19F 07/21 21:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kesdoputr/push?y=14" target="_blank">kesdoputr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: dm5的好像不能抓了?貼進去沒反應@@</span><span class="push-right">20F 08/25 23:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/koihime/push?y=14" target="_blank">koihime</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 在家裡電腦連dm5,前頭www會變成tel,然後就沒反應</span><span class="push-right">21F 08/26 13:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 樓上已修正。不過我用 firefox 不會跳轉到 tel.dm5.com</span><span class="push-right">22F 08/27 15:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你用的瀏覽器是?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/koihime/push?y=14" target="_blank">koihime</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新版測試ok了,感謝更新^^,我也是用firefox</span><span class="push-right">24F 09/03 00:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/koihime/push?y=14" target="_blank">koihime</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不過同樣用firefox,在公司連是dm5在家連是tel</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/koihime/push?y=14" target="_blank">koihime</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不知道跟isp有沒有關係,公司是hinet家裡是seed</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 剛剛抓百姓貴族說是 Unknown url</span><span class="push-right">27F 09/09 22:26</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://tel.dm5.com/manhua-baixingguizu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tel.dm5.com/manhua-baixingguizu/</a></span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eight0/push?y=14" target="_blank">eight0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 目前最新版是0906版本,有支援 tel.dm5.com 了</span><span class="push-right">29F 09/09 22:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oversky0/push?y=14" target="_blank">oversky0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可以用了,謝謝。</span><span class="push-right">30F 09/10 18:13</span></div>
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b34mac2.
Re: [請問] 你願意花錢買的軟體?求推薦
http://disp.cc/b/25-81FC
2014-08-16T08:51:32+08:00
2014-08-17T00:22:26+08:00
作業系統
我的筆電是Win7 home板已經夠用
photocap-免費
picasa-免費
foobar2000-免費
account book (WP的app)-30元
WinZip Systems Utilities Suite 一年-300元(亞馬遜特價買的)
NortonUtilities 16-450元(亞馬遜特價買的)
office note2013(本身有訂閱office365)
SecureAnywhere Intermet Security五台裝置一年-450(亞馬遜購買)
原本是office2007用到今年
現在是改用office365家庭版訂閱一年 一年到期後打算改月費了...
必須承認office365與WP手機的office Lens搭配OneDrive拍照掃描超方便
winrar、WinZip 17 Standard-440元(在亞馬遜網站購買)
無
無
無
都用office存成pdf格式
無
翻譯軟體:
Dr.eye Pro(WP的app)-特價的150元
自訂桌面:
Fences-300元
電子書:
calibre-免費
CyberArticle(2用 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> b34mac2 (店長推薦作品)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [請問] 你願意花錢買的軟體?求推薦<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sat Aug 16 08:51:32 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《maro1357 ( 請給我傲嬌屬性的林志玲)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 使用智障手機後</span>
<span class="quote">: 開始買些真的很常用的軟體後~(ezpdf/foldersync/moon reader..etc</span>
<span class="quote">: 有想過電腦也這麼做</span>
<span class="quote">: 筆電內附win7 home爛歸爛,也夠用了</span>
<span class="quote">: q1:像win7 home 再上去一次到位,值得買的 win7 pro?ultimate?</span>
<span class="quote">: 最便宜的價位是多少?拍賣上有千元上下的~</span>
作業系統
我的筆電是Win7 home板已經夠用
<span class="quote">: 影像編輯:</span>
photocap-免費
<span class="quote">: 快速看圖、簡易編輯軟體</span>
picasa-免費
<span class="quote">: 音樂播放</span>
foobar2000-免費
<span class="quote">: 收支記帳</span>
account book (WP的app)-30元
<span class="quote">: 系統清除</span>
WinZip Systems Utilities Suite 一年-300元(亞馬遜特價買的)
NortonUtilities 16-450元(亞馬遜特價買的)
<span class="quote">: PIM(個人筆記):</span>
office note2013(本身有訂閱office365)
<span class="quote">: 防毒軟體、防火牆:</span>
SecureAnywhere Intermet Security五台裝置一年-450(亞馬遜購買)
<span class="quote">: office系列:</span>
原本是office2007用到今年
現在是改用office365家庭版訂閱一年 一年到期後打算改月費了...
必須承認office365與WP手機的office Lens搭配OneDrive拍照掃描超方便
<span class="quote">: 解壓縮軟體:</span>
winrar、WinZip 17 Standard-440元(在亞馬遜網站購買)
<span class="quote">: 沙盒軟體</span>
無
<span class="quote">: BT P2P下載軟體</span>
無
<span class="quote">: PDF文件製作</span>
無
都用office存成pdf格式
<span class="quote">: 檔案總管:</span>
無
翻譯軟體:
Dr.eye Pro(WP的app)-特價的150元
自訂桌面:
Fences-300元
電子書:
calibre-免費
CyberArticle(2用户版)-125元(不是買台灣代理的)
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結果發現除了必備的工具office之外
我不是靠特價買就是用免費的...
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/y3k/push?y=14" target="_blank">y3k</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 吃飯能用的工具 免費的絕對是壓倒性的稀有</span><span class="push-right">2F 08/16 14:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/y3k/push?y=14" target="_blank">y3k</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不然就是那種通才型的工作 不需要也沒空搞得太精</span></div>
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Syd.
[請問] 有可以檢查開機時間的軟體嗎?
http://disp.cc/b/25-81FB
2014-08-13T13:31:03+08:00
2014-08-17T00:22:25+08:00
最近公司的電腦好像被動過
雖然有設密碼應該是不能登入
但還是想請問有沒有軟體是可以看開機時間
就是幾點幾分開始通電這種 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Syd (Wish you were here)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [請問] 有可以檢查開機時間的軟體嗎?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Aug 13 13:31:03 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
最近公司的電腦好像被動過
雖然有設密碼應該是不能登入
但還是想請問有沒有軟體是可以看開機時間
就是幾點幾分開始通電這種
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如果我是甜甜圈,那麼…
你會是那個最適合我的法蘭克福香腸?
還是註定會讓我痛徹心扉的法國麵包呢?
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pz/push?y=14" target="_blank">pz</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 開始 -> cmd -> systeminfo 收工</span><span class="push-right">2F 08/13 21:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eva19452002/push?y=14" target="_blank">eva19452002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: HD pro,可以看硬碟開機時間</span><span class="push-right">3F 08/14 00:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kaoru7568/push?y=14" target="_blank">kaoru7568</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: true launch bar 有插件可以用</span><span class="push-right">4F 08/16 01:07</span></div>
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markshian.
[情報] 今年第十一號颱風哈隆
http://disp.cc/b/25-7XSO
2014-07-29T12:28:13+08:00
2014-07-29T23:48:16+08:00
台風第11号 (ハーロン)
平成26年07月29日13時20分 発表
<29日12時の実況>
大きさ -
強さ -
存在地域 マリアナ諸島
中心位置 北緯 12度35分(12.6度)
東経 148度00分(148.0度)
進行方向、速さ 北西 15km/h(9kt)
中心気圧 1000hPa
中心付近の最大風速 18m/s(35kt)
最大瞬間風速 25m/s(50kt)
15m/s以上の強風域 全域 280km(150NM)
<30日12時の予報>
強さ -
存在地域 マリアナ諸島
予報円の中心 北緯 14度10分(14.2度)
東経 145度30分(145.5度)
進行方向、速さ 西北西 15km/h(7kt)
中心気圧 990hPa
中心付近の最大風速 25m/s(50kt)
最大瞬間風速 35m/s(70kt)
予報円の半径 130km(70NM)
看來已由11W搶下哈隆@"@ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> TY_Research </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> markshian (markshian)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] 今年第十一號颱風哈隆<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Jul 29 12:28:13 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
台風第11号 (ハーロン)
平成26年07月29日13時20分 発表
<29日12時の実況>
大きさ -
強さ -
存在地域 マリアナ諸島
中心位置 北緯 12度35分(12.6度)
東経 148度00分(148.0度)
進行方向、速さ 北西 15km/h(9kt)
中心気圧 1000hPa
中心付近の最大風速 18m/s(35kt)
最大瞬間風速 25m/s(50kt)
15m/s以上の強風域 全域 280km(150NM)
<30日12時の予報>
強さ -
存在地域 マリアナ諸島
予報円の中心 北緯 14度10分(14.2度)
東経 145度30分(145.5度)
進行方向、速さ 西北西 15km/h(7kt)
中心気圧 990hPa
中心付近の最大風速 25m/s(50kt)
最大瞬間風速 35m/s(70kt)
予報円の半径 130km(70NM)
看來已由11W搶下哈隆@"@
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/youngscott/push?y=14" target="_blank">youngscott</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:突如其來地升格 看看96w真是搖頭</span><span class="push-right">1F 07/29 12:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keroromoa/push?y=14" target="_blank">keroromoa</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在流行非正常時間發報嗎XD</span><span class="push-right">2F 07/29 12:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcticircle/push?y=14" target="_blank">arcticircle</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有預感96W今天也會升格</span><span class="push-right">3F 07/29 13:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vaughn/push?y=14" target="_blank">vaughn</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:96w等等就會升了吧</span><span class="push-right">4F 07/29 13:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/city0906/push?y=14" target="_blank">city0906</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今晚要飛關島怕怕</span><span class="push-right">5F 07/29 13:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jelly777/push?y=14" target="_blank">jelly777</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:生了…恭喜老爺賀喜夫人</span><span class="push-right">6F 07/29 13:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:11W是原本的90W是哈隆</span><span class="push-right">7F 07/29 13:45</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:96W已經GW卻沒TCFA可能是納克莉</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:兩家害我亂了一下</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:更有趣的是 哈隆中心氣壓比96W高</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且哈隆沒有五日預報....</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈隆有很明顯的雲卷中心 不曉得是不是眼</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=14" target="_blank">aa1477888</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:96W則是一個超大範圍 會旋轉的低壓...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/snocia/push?y=14" target="_blank">snocia</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:96W:996hPa 11W(Halong):1000hPa -JMA</span><span class="push-right">14F 07/29 14:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chiy16/push?y=14" target="_blank">chiy16</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈隆已經出現雲捲風眼 老j強度應該會快速上調</span><span class="push-right">15F 07/29 14:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcticircle/push?y=14" target="_blank">arcticircle</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看可見光雲圖準娜克利很不錯</span><span class="push-right">16F 07/29 14:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/grazioso320/push?y=14" target="_blank">grazioso320</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:96W中心外露還滿嚴重的... 倒是雲系範圍頗廣</span><span class="push-right">17F 07/29 14:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chikorita/push?y=14" target="_blank">chikorita</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恩... 96W對流都沒有長對位置... 繼續貧弱中 XD</span><span class="push-right">18F 07/29 14:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aegis43210/push?y=14" target="_blank">aegis43210</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樂觀預估哈隆會在週四成長為貓一</span><span class="push-right">19F 07/29 15:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aegis43210/push?y=14" target="_blank">aegis43210</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:納克莉應該只會從台灣東方海面通過,環流正在收縮</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/markshian/push?y=14" target="_blank">markshian</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:先看環流中心調整到如何,影響後續路徑很大</span><span class="push-right">21F 07/29 15:26</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/markshian/push?y=14" target="_blank">markshian</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:JMA這報定位在18.3N 130.1E 過去往西</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/markshian/push?y=14" target="_blank">markshian</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/efnH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/efnH</a></span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ppt.cc/efnH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(799x663)]
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/snocia/push?y=14" target="_blank">snocia</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:JMA預測哈隆3天後強度是80kts(=氣象局40m/s)</span><span class="push-right">24F 07/29 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jhvyht/push?y=14" target="_blank">jhvyht</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:JMA的定位往西調整,會影響96W後續北上離台距離吧?</span><span class="push-right">25F 07/29 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lboevceky/push?y=14" target="_blank">lboevceky</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:西邊對流一直爆發,應該有往西調整的空間</span><span class="push-right">26F 07/29 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/snocia/push?y=14" target="_blank">snocia</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果中心真的往西走或在西側調整、建立,台灣閃不掉</span><span class="push-right">27F 07/29 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jasontom/push?y=14" target="_blank">jasontom</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近的確往西走,不過96w中心還是沒有分裂的跡象,另</span><span class="push-right">28F 07/29 15:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jasontom/push?y=14" target="_blank">jasontom</a> </span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:外中心的空洞又開始縮小中,但是幅散還是很差……</span></div>
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zzLin.
Re: [問題] 分給約70台電腦的非無線IP分享器選擇
http://disp.cc/b/25-7XK1
2013-11-02T23:38:33+08:00
2014-07-29T13:01:24+08:00
我想問一個問題,為什麼不以中華給的那台小巫規
直接當做ip分享器,不需要再透過另一台IP分享器
就我目前的經驗來說,IP分享器會發生無法上網的問題
不外呼底下幾種
1.dns proxy 程式當掉了,導至dns qery但是網路仍通
這是最常發生的狀況
2.modem的ram被session吃光了,導至linux kernel panic
當機又不重開機,所以才會導至要重啟
3.過熱,完全的死當,不重開不行
我個人覺得中華最新的7740C完全可以解決第2點的問題
當然第1點的問題是有可能發生的,但是我個人有解法
因為7740C用的是64MB的RAM,內部RAM free有12MB
session數最大設為3萬多條,全吃光也只需要6~8MB RAM
所以不會發生第二個問題,至於第三個問題我也覺得不太容
易發生
不知道大家覺得是否可以
這種方法應該是最省錢的,也不需要再買任何分享器
本身是一個小小的網路工程師,開發過好幾款ip分享器
對於中華的VDSL modem(光世代)也非常的熟
所以建議是否可以試一下直接用中華的光世代modem試試看呢? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> zzLin (Johnson)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問題] 分給約70台電腦的非無線IP分享器選擇<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sat Nov 2 23:38:33 2013</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="combine-lines">我想問一個問題,為什麼不以中華給的那台小巫規
直接當做ip分享器,不需要再透過另一台IP分享器</div>
就我目前的經驗來說,IP分享器會發生無法上網的問題
不外呼底下幾種
1.dns proxy 程式當掉了,導至dns qery但是網路仍通
這是最常發生的狀況
2.modem的ram被session吃光了,導至linux kernel panic
當機又不重開機,所以才會導至要重啟
3.過熱,完全的死當,不重開不行
<div class="combine-lines">我個人覺得中華最新的7740C完全可以解決第2點的問題
當然第1點的問題是有可能發生的,但是我個人有解法
因為7740C用的是64MB的RAM,內部RAM free有12MB</div>
session數最大設為3萬多條,全吃光也只需要6~8MB RAM
所以不會發生第二個問題,至於第三個問題我也覺得不太容
易發生
不知道大家覺得是否可以
這種方法應該是最省錢的,也不需要再買任何分享器
本身是一個小小的網路工程師,開發過好幾款ip分享器
對於中華的VDSL modem(光世代)也非常的熟
所以建議是否可以試一下直接用中華的光世代modem試試看呢?
<span class="record">※ 引述《natsukage000 (natsukage)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 住處的房東麻煩我幫忙找AP(抱歉應該是IP分享器)</span>
<span class="quote">: 房東目前裝IP分享器的位置如下</span>
<span class="quote">: 100M中華小烏龜>IP分享器>HUB>分給兩層樓約70台的電腦</span>
<span class="quote">: 目前房東用的是DLink的DI-707P</span>
<span class="quote">: 非常容易當,不知道哪台電腦只要開P2P機器就會掛掉</span>
<span class="quote">: 又常常發生在晚上,房東半夜要起來重開機器讓他很疲憊...</span>
<span class="quote">: 房東沒有打算要限制大家的流量,還是希望房客們能自制</span>
<span class="quote">: 所以現在問題就是這個IP分享器,希望換一台能負擔的機器</span>
<span class="quote">: 之前看到01許多人推薦居易2104</span>
<span class="quote">: 但他只有4PORT,而且這個價位感覺還是適用於普通家庭</span>
<span class="quote">: 麻煩推薦1萬元以內、有8PORT、非無線的IP分享器</span>
<span class="quote">: 我很希望能解決這個問題,因為AP一當我也會受影響...</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:自已寫軔體,晶片再好,軔體寫鳥了一樣無用,軔體很重要</span><span class="push-right">2F 11/02 23:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HiJimmy/push?y=13" target="_blank">HiJimmy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我家的60M還是用P874 硬撥 一開P2P就掛了</span><span class="push-right">3F 11/02 23:54</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HiJimmy/push?y=13" target="_blank">HiJimmy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有辦法換好一點的嗎?</span></div>
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P874 and 7740C我都了解,因為一個是用broadcom turnkey做的,一個是用自家做的
我兩者都很熟,我仍然覺得broadcom的turnkey要穩一些,所以我也想知道p874為何會有問題
也許合勤把ram弄少了,session數過大造成kernel panic,或是dns proxy死掉了
如果是熱當,那就是硬體設計太差了,無法過高溫
我自已家的決對不會發生dns proxy死掉的問題,因為我的device dns proxy死了
會再活過來,不過只有我家的才會,中華標準的版本不會
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幫我試一下p2p掛的時候,是否ping 168.95.1.1還會通嗎?</span><span class="push-right">6F 11/02 23:58</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我沒什麼代表性的,開發過太多了,至少數十台router</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但是會有什麼bug怎麼解,我大概都知道,光聽我說的那三點</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:行家應該就明白我在說什</span></div>
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<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 00:04)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FRX/push?y=13" target="_blank">FRX</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:給專業推~</span><span class="push-right">10F 11/03 00:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:的確你是VDSL Modem 專家,不過Modem跟Firewall比?</span><span class="push-right">11F 11/03 00:20</span></div>
Modem因為硬撥開了NAT的關係,基本上已經是最強的防火牆了,除非你有木馬在內部的PC
否則防火牆等級超高的,雖然我不是防火牆的專家,希望更專業的人事可以提供一些其它
的意見
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 00:23)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:session 有30000那也不是重點</span><span class="push-right">12F 11/03 00:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:7740c new session /s 多少才是重點,一台pc 吃200</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:70台也大約要21000 session而已,</span></div>
所以我說30000的這個點有什麼問題嗎?看不懂,我說的30000是有憑據的
因為是linux系統,對於session數有設定值的,請cat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_max
就知道整個系統可以使用多少修session,每個session也佔用記憶體,最多不會超過250bytes,我預計
所以250X30000,大約是7MB,整個系統開完機free還有12MB, 所以足夠
這就是我說為什麼7740C撐的住的原因
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 00:27)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我要是看不懂的話,我會說 new session /s?</span><span class="push-right">15F 11/03 00:31</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你可以吃30000 session 那你知道你每一秒可以吃多少</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:new session?</span></div>
樓上大大失敬失敬,原來是我沒看懂你的問題啊,相信你也是非常專業的
至於每秒可以產生幾個新的session這點我到是真的從來沒去注意過
可以跟你請教每秒產生幾個new session的數值有什麼影響嗎?
請你分享一下這部份的訊息
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 00:38)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實7740c 用來少數PC使用不會太大的問題</span><span class="push-right">18F 11/03 00:39</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為new session 不算太多</span></div>
我希望可以用來給大量的PC使用,不知道多一點new session數會有什麼影響呢?
可以說明一下嗎?
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 00:41)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我簡單說明下,new session 除了吃RAM還會吃CPU</span><span class="push-right">20F 11/03 00:48</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一個數值讓你參考,我用ASA5510規格是90k session</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:錯了是50K,new session 是9000</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我把線路斷掉重連,monitor 到的是new session 是7000</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:基本要是你能處理到這樣的東西,簡單說2000以下的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:IP Sharing 應該都可以不用賣了...</span></div>
基本上我並不同意這樣子的說法喔,因為new session舜間建立的數量
並不影響網路的使用,而且我們並不是中繼路由器
不需要到效能這麼高才是,可以說的簡單一點,如果數量沒有那麼高
對使用起來的感受有什麼差別嗎?
我不懂
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 00:57)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:router 看的是PPS也不是session..</span><span class="push-right">26F 11/03 00:58</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:new session 不高對user 來說會感覺上網路卡卡的</span></div>
我到是沒有親身體驗過,所以並不曉得會如何卡卡的
希望70台的那戶人家可以試試看硬撥,看是否會真的卡卡的
而且他之前用的那一台,我相信也沒那麼高才對
會想換的原因是不穩,不是卡卡的
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 01:01)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:或者不通.要看NAT 是要做怎樣處理是dorp還是q</span><span class="push-right">28F 11/03 00:59</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那種感覺就好像windows 限了200 session</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:然後你去開了 youtube 他要吃300 session一樣</span></div>
樓上真是專業啊, 不過不會drop的,這點你請放心
如果drop那就會產生上不了網的假像,使用都最不希望看到這種的了
所以一定是Q,new session一定可以建立成功,不會有問題的
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 01:04)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:若是你是只用來做 VDSL modem 不開 NAT 那也沒什麼</span><span class="push-right">31F 11/03 01:03</span></div>
所以我從頭到尾都說要當分享器來使用,也就是開NAT喔
我相信7740C撐的住的,請給他機會,也請不要花不必要的大錢
說的白一點,高價錢的東西往往硬體成本跟低價的是一個樣
差別在於穩定度跟品牌還有一些我們都用不太到的效能
與其花大錢去買,不如試試原本就可以的機種
如果遇到問題,是7740C的話,我希望可以跟大家一起來了解了解
請讓我知道
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 01:07)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我會注意這種東西是,我們有相關的經驗 site也不小</span><span class="push-right">32F 11/03 01:06</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我們一般會去計算能吃多少的Session跟每秒能處理多少</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:new session 能建立成功,但是使用者會應該如:開網頁</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:變慢了,BT好像要久一點才會綠燈,連上PTT會比平常慢點</span></div>
開網頁也許比較可能有感覺,連ptt到是不會有差別的,一旦連上了,就會一直很順了
因為現在的機種都有h/w加速,所以一開始建new session也許慢一點點,但是建好了就會順了的
謝謝你分享你的經驗給我們知道,可否在你有機會的時候試一下7740C呢
真想知道7740C在你的測試下的表現啊
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 01:10)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想要有7740C 那也要中華肯給啊=.=</span><span class="push-right">36F 11/03 01:16</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最好改到很強,把一些低價的 IP Sharing 趕走@_@</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:買那些低價的 IP Sharing 很浪費生命..</span></div>
我如果可以弄一台借你,你可以幫忙測嗎?
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 01:19)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我不知道我這區的中華IP DLASM 能不能吃喔</span><span class="push-right">39F 11/03 01:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你如果是VDSL應該能吃才對,因為都是broadcom solution</span><span class="push-right">40F 11/03 01:21</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你家現在用的是那一台呢?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:6640吧..小小一台</span><span class="push-right">42F 11/03 01:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:6640就太好了,因為他跟7740基本上是一樣的,你有開過硬撥嗎</span><span class="push-right">43F 11/03 01:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你可以試6640硬撥,看撐不撐的住好嗎?如果不行我給你一版FW</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那台啊,沒開過,我以前都開Zyxel 系列的</span><span class="push-right">45F 11/03 01:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:6640跟7740主要差別在wifi 11n 一個是1X1 一個是2X2</span><span class="push-right">46F 11/03 01:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我可以去改一下看看,我上新FW不會被中華強制換回嗎?</span><span class="push-right">47F 11/03 01:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ram跟flash 有沒有差,我要再查一下,不過6640 FW較舊</span><span class="push-right">48F 11/03 01:26</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當然不會被中華強制換,你太看的起中華了</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不然我家的怎麼用呢?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就是走GPON摟</span><span class="push-right">51F 11/03 01:29</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想測試就得要我沒升到100M/100M時摟.不然就不會是VDS</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:什麼跟什麼啊...我家用光世代,我用的是7740C的機種VDSL</span><span class="push-right">53F 11/03 01:30</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以你即將要升了?其實VDSL也可以走到100/100的,只是一般不</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為我要進光纖啊..走GPON不走VDSL XD</span><span class="push-right">55F 11/03 01:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:走而以,用bouding的方式,訊號夠好雙向100是可以的</span><span class="push-right">56F 11/03 01:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果可以我還想只用光纖進,我買GBIC接咧</span><span class="push-right">57F 11/03 01:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我南部的家就是走GPON摟 100M/100M 6IP</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Gpon目前都是軟接,不過將來硬接會變主流了,到時候可以再試</span><span class="push-right">59F 11/03 01:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:Bouding 的單1 session只能一半問題你們有解?</span><span class="push-right">60F 11/03 01:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我看速率上的去的,我再確認下</span><span class="push-right">61F 11/03 01:36</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:進光有好處的,路由跟一般人不一樣,連那裡也許都快許多</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在的RD真好,不會不食人間煙火啊,以前的RD想做什麼</span><span class="push-right">63F 11/03 01:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asdfghjklasd/push?y=13" target="_blank">asdfghjklasd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:都不用管使用者的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:生意是生意,只要中華不反應,原廠就不會改</span><span class="push-right">65F 11/03 01:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我個人純興趣啊......</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中華的人應該上上ptt了解一下大家的感受的</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: zzLin 來自: 220.132.97.75 (11/03 01:45)</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yanagawa/push?y=13" target="_blank">yanagawa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:設計P874早就不知道到那間公司了</span><span class="push-right">68F 11/03 02:35</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yanagawa/push?y=13" target="_blank">yanagawa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來7740C是D牌子</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:是的,p開頭是zyxel</span><span class="push-right">70F 11/03 07:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/natsukage000/push?y=13" target="_blank">natsukage000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很感謝您的回覆,由於我本身沒有看過房東的小烏龜</span><span class="push-right">71F 11/03 07:38</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/natsukage000/push?y=13" target="_blank">natsukage000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以也不知道型號跟位置,只看到有線進到房客大樓</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/natsukage000/push?y=13" target="_blank">natsukage000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可能要晚一點才能去看看...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzLin/push?y=13" target="_blank">zzLin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ok</span><span class="push-right">74F 11/03 08:05</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">a0952158751</span><span style="color:#808000">:ok</span></div></pre>
shanaa.
[心得] 面試(德州儀器,松下,微星,凌華,和碩...)
http://disp.cc/b/25-7UQK
2013-10-17T21:26:27+08:00
2014-07-17T13:41:03+08:00
小弟在面試的過程中 從這板上獲得了許多寶貴的資訊
因此現在也來回饋一下有需要找工作的板友 希望對大家有些幫助
標題括號內寫的是我有面試的幾家較有名氣的公司 方便板友搜尋!
(包含德州儀器,和碩,偉詮電子,文曄科技,台灣松下,新漢,凌華,宏達電,微星)
薪資分享的部分,由於面試當下都有簽保密條款
因此這篇仍然是以[(N作加減)X 每年保證月份]來表示
N代表的是國立碩士在台北的標準薪資 不知道確實數字的話
可以把它當成是個比較對象就好 比較本篇中各家公司的待遇
最後面,有我對於面試的一些小心得分享
時間不多的板友 也可以直接拉到最下面看一下
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和碩:
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外觀富麗堂皇,金碧輝煌 超氣派的一家公司
我應徵的工作是RD 作筆電的部門
面試一開始會請你做智力測驗+電子學
接著就是和兩位主管(共兩關)的面試
第一位是你以後的直屬主管 面試內容大概是論文介紹以及檢討考卷
不過照主管的說法 他們在意智力測驗的程度是大於專業測驗 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Tech_Job </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> shanaa (高傲的貓)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [心得] 面試(德州儀器,松下,微星,凌華,和碩...)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Oct 17 21:26:27 2013</div><hr color="#008080" />
小弟在面試的過程中 從這板上獲得了許多寶貴的資訊
因此現在也來回饋一下有需要找工作的板友 希望對大家有些幫助
標題括號內寫的是我有面試的幾家較有名氣的公司 方便板友搜尋!
(包含德州儀器,和碩,偉詮電子,文曄科技,台灣松下,新漢,凌華,宏達電,微星)
薪資分享的部分,由於面試當下都有簽保密條款
因此這篇仍然是以[(N作加減)X 每年保證月份]來表示
N代表的是國立碩士在台北的標準薪資 不知道確實數字的話
可以把它當成是個比較對象就好 比較本篇中各家公司的待遇
最後面,有我對於面試的一些小心得分享
時間不多的板友 也可以直接拉到最下面看一下
-----------------------分格線------------------------------
*************
和碩:
*************
外觀富麗堂皇,金碧輝煌 超氣派的一家公司
我應徵的工作是RD 作筆電的部門
面試一開始會請你做智力測驗+電子學
接著就是和兩位主管(共兩關)的面試
第一位是你以後的直屬主管 面試內容大概是論文介紹以及檢討考卷
不過照主管的說法 他們在意智力測驗的程度是大於專業測驗的
第二位則是較資深的主管 聊的內容比較偏工作環境
會問問你對這家公司的看法 以及接不接受加班 種種的心理建設
整體而言
我對他們印象漫好的點是 主管陳述工作情形的部分還漫中肯的
很老實的說他們需要常加班 而且他們也知道外面對他們的評價就是很操XD
他們的優點是上班較自由 就主管的說法是
只要工作做的出來 上班時間去買買點心 買買starbuck都沒問題
而且公司內有健身設備 員工餐廳也挺不錯的
餐費補助的部分沒列在薪水當中 是另外有額度讓你去刷卡使用
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總評:
1.工時長,地點較偏遠
2.公司大,餐廳不錯
3.似乎許多人將其視為不錯的跳板
應徵職位: 硬體研發工程師
待遇: (N+1.5K)X14
面試結果: offer get
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德州儀器:
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國際級的的美商公司 世界前三大半導體公司
說真的 我在讀研所的時候 從來不敢幻想我有一天能來這面試
應徵時 除了104以外 還需要上該公司網站去填寫一大堆的英文履歷
包含大學 碩班的成績平均等級
面試時還得附上大學+碩士成績單
我大學成績並不好(其實是很差) 很意外的進入到了面試階段
我應徵的職務是封裝測試工程師
也許有人會說測試無聊 但我認為光德州儀器這個招牌就夠吸引人了!!
<div class="combine-lines">第一次面試時 需要測驗英文(讀+聽力)以及電子學
接著是人資和你聊你的論文和你的學習過程(全英文)
聊完後 是和三位主管一起面試</div>
過程中 他會問你一些電子學的概念 以及問你處理問題的一些態度
最後再問一些類似智力測驗的問題
沒有正確解答 端看你的臨場反應
過程還蠻順利的 主管在過程中也一直給我一些鼓勵
說我回答的還不錯 在面試結束後 也私下和我說以後面試要加強的部分
之後也獲得了後續幾次的面試機會 不過可惜的是最後還是未能錄取!
德州儀器選人超級謹慎 主管有帶我進去和內部的新進員工聊過
他們為了招募兩個名額 就花了整整兩個月!!!
我自已也親自見識過了 從hr到組長到副理,經理 以及最後的hr長
(hr長人很好 向我說了好幾次不好意思 害我跑這麼多趟)
想當然 這家公司待遇也是真的好 底薪不算高
但是保證14個月 而且每年調薪將近10%
副理和我說過 裡面的資深工程師 薪水絕對不會比他少
再加上外商流動率低 真的很吸引人!
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總評:
1.福利好,調薪幅度大
2.英文能力要好(尤其是口說能力)
3.面試時間較長,如果有興趣請儘早投履歷
應徵職位: 封裝測試工程師
待遇: 約(N)X14
面試結果: 四次面試,未拿到offer
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微星科技:
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也是一間國際級的公司
板上其實有許多關於該公司的傳聞 多半是又操薪水又低
但是公司本身的福利其實是漫不錯的
保證十四個月 外加每年一萬三的旅遊補助
還有豐富的員工訓練課程(包含外語,職涯規劃)
我認為整體還是漫有吸引力的
我應徵的職位是研發測試工程師
根據主管的介紹 該職位除了需要testing外
本身還需要具備研發+外語的能力
簡單來說 就是FAE+testing+RD 三位一體....
其實聽他介紹完 我臉上就有點三條線
這漫明顯就是公司cost down下的產物
等於是用testing的待遇去聘請一個全能的工程師
想當然爾loading一定會超級大
(當然主管是極力澄清 說MSI的研發測試待遇比照RD 不過無從查證)
測驗的內容是英文翻譯 翻譯關於客戶詢問的信件(中翻英+英翻中)
內容有些難度 一堆專有名詞...
不過主管對於考卷似乎不是很在意 甚至當下也沒有批改
就開始介紹公司的待遇以及福利
<div class="combine-lines">整個過程超級迅速 從開始寫考卷到面試完 不到四十分鐘...
甚至快到我連準備的資料(自備履歷+口試投影片)都忘了拿出來
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這大概是我面試過程中 最抓不準面試結果的一間
等阿等的等了兩星期 最後還是怒得一張感謝函 T皿T
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總評:
1.福利不錯
2.工作內容很雜
3.外語能力要好
4.根據網路消息以及本人經驗,三天沒收到錄取通知,大概就沒希望了XD
應徵職位:研發測試工程師
待遇: 約(N-3k)X14
面試結果: 一次面試,感謝函
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凌華科技:
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國內數一數二的工業電腦製造商
公司給我的氣氛是很積極 步調很快
我在櫃檯等待面試的時候 總是看到公司的員工
步伐很快速的走進茶水間泡杯咖啡 又很迅速的走回辦公室
而且兩位主管約面試的時間 分別約在早上九點以及下午五點
這兩個時間都超特別的XDD
可以看的出來是一間正在快速成長的公司
連半分鐘都不想浪費 所以盡量將他們自己工作的時間集中!
面試的過程沒有測驗
第一個主管會問你關於你的研究
接著問關於電子學的基礎 需要你在白板上作答
第二個主管也是問關於你的研究 問得挺詳細的
並且介紹你未來在公司的定位
整體而言 我覺得這家公司做事很有效率 主管懂得很多 待遇也不差
真的是漫值得推薦的!
不過主管也提到 公司作氣氛可能略顯嚴肅
因為許多時候 需要獨自handle一個case 因此同事間互動會較少!
PS. 主管有提到 公司最近需要招收新人 因此板友可以更積極的投遞履歷
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總評:
1.公司競爭力不錯
2.待遇不錯
3.公司會定時對相同產業作調查 因此薪水是跟著大環境在變的
應徵職位: 硬體研發
待遇: (N+3K)X13
面試結果: offer get
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新漢電腦:
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同樣是國內知名的工業電腦製造商
面試過程中同樣沒有測驗
主管會先跟你聊你的論文 接著是問一些電子學相關的問題
巧合的是 主管詢問的問題和凌華&和碩一模一樣
因此面試還算順利
由於資深主管本身在開會 因此在詢問過後
當下面試主管也很阿殺力的直接給我口頭offer(隔天就收到offer信了)
並且和我說明一下未來的規劃
公司內部有健身房以及員工餐廳
晚餐也有免費提供便當
主管說 平均大約六七點下班 甚至有些年輕人會留下來讀書
他覺得也挺好的!
整體而言 除了人資大姐臉有點臭以外
公司給我的感覺還不錯 感覺是一間漫穩定的公司
不過待遇真的低了一些就是了
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總評:
1.設備不錯,有餐費補助
2.不太會操,穩定
應徵職位: 硬體研發
待遇: (N-4K)X14
面試結果: offer get
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宏達電:
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板上應該已經有非常多相關的資訊了 這裡我就簡單提就好
我應徵的是audio engineer
<div class="combine-lines">其實什麼職位都一樣 宏達電標榜的就是出名的操
而且也是不怕你知道 兩位面試官都開門見山的說:
我們的工作時間就是10:00~22:00 能接受再來</div>
而整個面試過程就像是勸退大會 他會找各種點勸你不要來這邊作
我很拼命說服他們 說我不怕操 我願意學習
於是主管和我說 如果有興趣 思考三天後再通知人資
不過 後來我就沒有再回覆人資了@@
至於其他部分 面試前要做智力測驗+英文測驗(聽+讀)+專業測驗
宏達電對於智力測驗部分還漫執著的 滿分一百 必須要做高於80才能錄取
如果他覺得你不錯的話 會讓你無限迴圈重考 直到達到標準XD
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總評:
1.很操
2.下班時間很晚
3.待遇似乎也沒高很多....
應徵職務: audio engineer
薪水: 約(N+8K)X14
面試結果: 二次面試,未進一步聯絡人資
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文曄科技:
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為相當大的電子電路通路商 負責包含鴻海,TI等大公司的產品代理
公司的資本額頗大的 公司也很豪華
而我應徵的職務是FAE(幹部培訓)
面試內容是考英文(聽+讀)加專業
接著是和HR長以及主管面談
從面談的過程中 可以發現有沒有車子對於FAE真的很重要
主管對成績也蠻看中的
因此不意外的獲得無聲卡一張!!
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應徵職位: FAE
待遇: 約 (N)X14
面試情形: 一次面試,無聲卡
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偉詮電子:
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中和地區少數幾家作SOC的(在大台北也是寥寥可數)
主要作電腦相關的配件 如記憶體,風扇等等
面試前需要測驗數位電路 由於和我論文題目關聯性很高
因此連面試官也都說我答的很完整
面試中 兩位面試官主要針對我的研究在詢問(因為和他們領域很相關)
自己覺得答的還算不錯
(除了一題要我畫PLL的架構 結果我少畫了除頻器 一直被噹 @@)
不過面試過程中 感覺考官對我興趣缺缺
而且主考官有明說 他們前陣子在趕project 因此很久沒開104
(這也暗示他們近期沒什麼徵人的需求)
而在整場面試中 不時都可以聽見員工在討論事情+嘻鬧聲
感覺真的是一家很歡樂的公司XD 難怪沒什麼人想跳 自然沒什麼缺了
整體而言 是間待遇不賴 而且頗適合養身體的公司!
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應徵職位:數位ic設計工程師
待遇: 約(N+3K)X14
面試結果: 一次面試,感謝函
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台灣松下 (Panasonic):
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國際知名的日本公司 台灣總公司在中和
環境和德州儀器很像
就是一家看起來很有歷史的大公司!
日商做事真的是一版一眼
面試採集體進行 當我看到十四位面試者同時在會議室填寫資料
我真的傻眼了!!
面試的進行方式就像是座談會一樣 五個主管(四種職缺) 十四個應徵者
還有好幾位應徵者穿西裝+打領帶+西裝褲(我自己是穿襯衫+卡其褲+踢不濫...)
一開始先是面試官自我介紹+應徵者自我介紹
接著是雙方輪流問問題 主管會cue自已有興趣的應徵者問題
而應徵者同樣可以對主考官提問
面試過程兩個多小時 其實還挺有趣的!
面試結束第三天 就收到了人資打來的錄取通知
再過三天就收到正式的錄取信
整體流程還漫有效率的
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總評:
1.待遇優良
2.據說升遷機會少
3.偏傳統產業,上下班較正常
應徵職位: 硬體研發工程師
待遇: (試用期N,期滿N+8K)X14
面試結果: offer get
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面試心得
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找工作其實時機點很重要 有點點看運氣
因此如果短期內找不到理想的工作 也無需太過沮喪
給自己多一些時間 不必太快作決定!
下面是我自己的幾個面試小技巧,分享給大家:
1.盡量找出自己的優勢在哪裡 然後再自我介紹的時候主動提出
EX 你家如果在公司附近 這對於許多公司 也是很棒的加分!
2.主動製作中英文履歷(非104格式的),會讓主管覺得你很積極
3.去外商面試前,務必準備英文自我介紹
4.面試不會考艱深的計算題,因此面試前務必熟悉幾種基本題形
EX MOS和BJT差在哪? 二極體的電壓電流曲線圖? C,L,R在電路上各有什麼應用?
5.成績如果不是特別突出 若非hr要求 否則不必準備成績單
因為成績永遠是面試官攻擊的重點!
6.新鮮人找工作,務必準備論文(或是口試投影片),主管也許不懂
但是他需要從你介紹的過程中,了解你的presentation (當然有書可以幫助講解)
7.很嚮往的公司,請主動去公司網站應徵或填資料,更容易獲得面試機會
大致就是上述這些 如果有想到再補充 :)
文章有點長 謝謝各位觀賞~~
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下面這些話也許看到的人也不多 就留給有緣的新鮮人 :)
我覺得找工作要有一個概念
主管講的話 只要沒有"保證"兩個字 都可以聽聽就好(有"保證"也不見得真的就是了XD)
"通常"16個月 "通常"七點公司燈就暗了
"通常"每年調薪5% ...等等
這些都是只是話術 可能自己在聽的時候打個八折 以後比較不容易失望
再來就是 公司重要 部門更重要 但最重要的是你的上司
如果這公司有吸引你的地方
<div class="combine-lines">請不要因為網路上有人說這家公司很操 很摳 就完全不考慮
請自己親自去面試(這不會花你多少時間 新鮮人有的是時間)
主管親口跟你講的 絕對比網路消息更可靠</div>
最後 台北和新竹的職缺真的很多 多到你眼花撩亂
如果對自已有些信心的話 找工作的時候
不妨先給自己一個明確的方向
EX 我想找車程半小時的工作 or 我想要找大公司...
在投履歷的時候 就都朝那個方向投(這樣等於是先刪掉一個變數啦)
這樣會更快幫助你找到自己理想的工作
因為面試最常見的情形就是
這家比那家錢少一點 那家又比那家近一點
比來比去根本半斤八兩
以上 希望對大家有幫助:)
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈 被TI打槍後真的漫沮喪的 不過面試真的要有耐心!</span><span class="push-right">4F 10/17 21:36</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ccczxzx/push?y=13" target="_blank">ccczxzx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝分享 推</span><span class="push-right">21F 10/17 22:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回rs大: 也許時間點不同吧 就我所知 另一位台大電機的員工</span><span class="push-right">22F 10/17 22:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:也是一個月後才收到offer</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣松下員工都是台灣人呀 沒有溝通問題 需要面對日本客戶</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:松下的履歷 我是進他們公司網站投的</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/angel0214/push?y=13" target="_blank">angel0214</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很詳細 推</span><span class="push-right">27F 10/17 22:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyll/push?y=13" target="_blank">kyll</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:整個面試過程就像是勸退大會 他會找各種點勸你不要來這邊作</span><span class="push-right">28F 10/17 22:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xvid/push?y=13" target="_blank">xvid</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對德x印象不好 support有夠爛</span><span class="push-right">29F 10/17 22:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/USkitty/push?y=13" target="_blank">USkitty</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我想問一下什麼是真外商package?</span><span class="push-right">30F 10/17 23:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/USkitty/push?y=13" target="_blank">USkitty</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:薪水和福利要高到什麼地步才叫真外商?</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/USkitty/push?y=13" target="_blank">USkitty</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:對德儀印象不好的,只能說抱歉了,對客戶大小眼是長久以</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/USkitty/push?y=13" target="_blank">USkitty</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:來的陋習。很難改善。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/brent43/push?y=13" target="_blank">brent43</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問原PO背景是?</span><span class="push-right">34F 10/17 23:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bluesapphire/push?y=13" target="_blank">bluesapphire</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:10:00~22:00 0.0</span><span class="push-right">35F 10/17 23:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/STUTWADE/push?y=13" target="_blank">STUTWADE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!</span><span class="push-right">36F 10/17 23:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lanvasa/push?y=13" target="_blank">Lanvasa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,詳細</span><span class="push-right">37F 10/17 23:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ANTENNABABY/push?y=13" target="_blank">ANTENNABABY</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 辛苦啦~</span><span class="push-right">38F 10/17 23:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peitinglee/push?y=13" target="_blank">peitinglee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好想知道N是多少</span><span class="push-right">39F 10/17 23:30</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/srxrrr/push?y=13" target="_blank">srxrrr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雖然是N 不過認真好文 推!!!</span><span class="push-right">40F 10/17 23:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sword1542/push?y=13" target="_blank">sword1542</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">41F 10/18 00:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wolf0000/push?y=13" target="_blank">wolf0000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本來猜N=42K,但看到文曄是N...,文曄頂多給到38K。</span><span class="push-right">42F 10/18 00:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/truebypass/push?y=13" target="_blank">truebypass</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推TI應徵同職缺落馬~真的很謹慎選人~</span><span class="push-right">43F 10/18 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回wolf大 文曄我應徵的是儲備幹部喔 所以會較高 :)</span><span class="push-right">44F 10/18 08:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒有拿到offer的部分 都是面試主管片面之詞 僅供參考</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jsnc/push?y=13" target="_blank">jsnc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問TI封裝測試是ATE相關的職位嗎</span><span class="push-right">46F 10/18 09:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gg22098/push?y=13" target="_blank">gg22098</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:微星松下我都有卦</span><span class="push-right">47F 10/18 09:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問jsnc大 是關於什麼方面的掛呢@@ 可以來信分享喔~</span><span class="push-right">48F 10/18 09:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:阿 看錯行 是gg大 歡迎來信分享唷 XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qloolp/push?y=13" target="_blank">qloolp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很扎實的心得 給推!!</span><span class="push-right">50F 10/18 09:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poiu1234/push?y=13" target="_blank">poiu1234</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ti 面試完隔天假日給offer</span><span class="push-right">51F 10/18 10:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bi123/push?y=13" target="_blank">bi123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以請問GG大大的松下卦嗎......想知道</span><span class="push-right">52F 10/18 11:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/frostfinger/push?y=13" target="_blank">frostfinger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我知道N是多少 我昨天才接到你拒絕本司offer的電話XD</span><span class="push-right">53F 10/18 11:31</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KYQQ/push?y=13" target="_blank">KYQQ</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:松下掛 加ㄧ</span><span class="push-right">55F 10/18 12:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pkch15/push?y=13" target="_blank">pkch15</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!!!</span><span class="push-right">56F 10/18 12:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shake1949/push?y=13" target="_blank">shake1949</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 用心</span><span class="push-right">57F 10/18 13:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YOYOISGOOD/push?y=13" target="_blank">YOYOISGOOD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:想知道原po最後的選擇? 以及htc的薪水不是應該是最高</span><span class="push-right">58F 10/18 17:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YOYOISGOOD/push?y=13" target="_blank">YOYOISGOOD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是用您給的預估薪水猜的</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fj90505/push?y=13" target="_blank">fj90505</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">60F 10/18 19:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bbbing/push?y=13" target="_blank">bbbing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:HTC的發展性很可怕啊,連帶分紅獎金那些的...</span><span class="push-right">61F 10/18 22:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kmca/push?y=13" target="_blank">kmca</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:什麼年代了還在期待紅茶有獎金.....</span><span class="push-right">62F 10/19 00:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/laker020/push?y=13" target="_blank">laker020</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:偉詮電沒保14吧...</span><span class="push-right">63F 10/19 14:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ciochg/push?y=13" target="_blank">ciochg</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:感謝分享! 想請問和碩大概多久會接到通知?</span><span class="push-right">64F 10/20 00:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/summerleaves/push?y=13" target="_blank">summerleaves</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文幫推</span><span class="push-right">65F 10/20 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sinrow/push?y=13" target="_blank">sinrow</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 這篇很有參考價值!</span><span class="push-right">66F 10/20 20:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/darvipon/push?y=13" target="_blank">darvipon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文,感覺到原PO很用心在寫</span><span class="push-right">67F 10/21 18:18</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:和碩大概一星期 主管會打電話通知您 但流程會跑兩星期以上</span><span class="push-right">69F 10/22 21:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a514232002/push?y=13" target="_blank">a514232002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:皮卡丘餐費補助不是算在薪水裡的 有另外quota給你刷的</span><span class="push-right">70F 10/22 22:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanaa/push?y=13" target="_blank">shanaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:謝謝樓上提供資訊 我修改一下</span><span class="push-right">71F 10/22 23:08</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nsmmsn/push?y=13" target="_blank">nsmmsn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!</span><span class="push-right">74F 12/31 06:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PSDC1997/push?y=13" target="_blank">PSDC1997</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">75F 02/27 21:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/popptt/push?y=13" target="_blank">popptt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~</span><span class="push-right">76F 05/18 21:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lowmail/push?y=13" target="_blank">lowmail</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:TI打槍正常 不用沮喪</span><span class="push-right">77F 06/06 01:07</span></div>
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Ertkkpoo.
[問卦] 為何韓文長得不像中文?
http://disp.cc/b/25-7UKZ
2014-07-17T01:34:39+08:00
2014-07-17T08:24:27+08:00
之前有學過
唐朝時有位和尚到中國學習書法字體,
然後就把它帶回去變成日本的平假名和片假名,
所以日文長得跟中文很像
不過為何離中國更近的高麗(韓國),所發展出來的韓文,
長得卻不像中文呢? (唐朝時應該也要向中國進貢還是經商之類,文化交流應該不算少
還是說他們長得很像,只是我看不出來?
不知道有沒有韓文長得不像中文的八卦? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Ertkkpoo (Good)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問卦] 為何韓文長得不像中文?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jul 17 01:34:39 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
之前有學過
唐朝時有位和尚到中國學習書法字體,
然後就把它帶回去變成日本的平假名和片假名,
所以日文長得跟中文很像
不過為何離中國更近的高麗(韓國),所發展出來的韓文,
長得卻不像中文呢? (唐朝時應該也要向中國進貢還是經商之類,文化交流應該不算少
還是說他們長得很像,只是我看不出來?
不知道有沒有韓文長得不像中文的八卦?
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FMANT/push?y=14" target="_blank">FMANT</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓國鄙視滿洲人統治的中國阿</span><span class="push-right">3F 07/17 01:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lolic/push?y=14" target="_blank">lolic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓國書法比賽是要比誰圈圈畫的圓嘛</span><span class="push-right">4F 07/17 01:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為了普及識字率他們發明了自己的文字,漢字太難了!</span><span class="push-right">5F 07/17 01:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/god060119/push?y=14" target="_blank">god060119</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:反正全世界的文字都是韓國人創的嘛</span><span class="push-right">6F 07/17 01:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AirWinters/push?y=14" target="_blank">AirWinters</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:像又怎樣? 你要宣布韓國是中華文化不可分割一部分嗎~</span><span class="push-right">7F 07/17 01:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jiunliege/push?y=14" target="_blank">jiunliege</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:戰前都用漢字不是嘛</span><span class="push-right">8F 07/17 01:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Atwo/push?y=14" target="_blank">Atwo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:去問世宗大王</span><span class="push-right">9F 07/17 01:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasamewon/push?y=14" target="_blank">kasamewon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不就注音符號扶正</span><span class="push-right">10F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=14" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實有韓文漢字 不過不用了 看起來跟中文沒差別</span><span class="push-right">11F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但韓國歷史還是很長期有使用漢字,現在名字也大多還有漢字。</span><span class="push-right">12F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/scu96/push?y=14" target="_blank">scu96</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:像殘體字</span><span class="push-right">13F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/boogieman/push?y=14" target="_blank">boogieman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就是要脫漢才創自己的文字 像漢文的話那還改個屁?</span><span class="push-right">14F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:漢字也不等於中文,日文的漢字就是日文啦~</span><span class="push-right">15F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=14" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實蠻可惜的...如果跟日文一樣 多少能對溝通有點幫助</span><span class="push-right">16F 07/17 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓國現在的文字還真的是韓國人自己創的XD</span><span class="push-right">17F 07/17 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phi0918/push?y=14" target="_blank">phi0918</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓文有去中文過,連首都都從漢城改名叫做首爾</span><span class="push-right">18F 07/17 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Charlie5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">Charlie5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:蔣光頭去韓國的時候說,在韓國好像在家鄉,文字都看得懂</span><span class="push-right">19F 07/17 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nelly5477/push?y=14" target="_blank">nelly5477</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實有像</span><span class="push-right">20F 07/17 01:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Charlie5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">Charlie5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知道是不是卜正熙,心裡不太爽</span><span class="push-right">21F 07/17 01:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:據說韓文的文字很容易學,聰穎的人半天能有所成。</span><span class="push-right">22F 07/17 01:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/murderice/push?y=14" target="_blank">murderice</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我怎麼好像隱約記得在哪裡讀到是刻意換掉的 因為要獨立</span><span class="push-right">23F 07/17 01:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/puppying/push?y=14" target="_blank">puppying</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:三樓, 發明諺文的時候還是明朝...</span><span class="push-right">24F 07/17 01:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:資質比較差的十天也能有點成績~</span><span class="push-right">25F 07/17 01:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/murderice/push?y=14" target="_blank">murderice</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:發展自己得文化</span><span class="push-right">26F 07/17 01:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zeumax/push?y=14" target="_blank">zeumax</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓字是拼音字,讀懂基礎難度大該就像學會字母,不過離學</span><span class="push-right">27F 07/17 01:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bumloveme/push?y=14" target="_blank">bumloveme</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓國一直都有漢字啊 有些教科書還有用漢字註解</span><span class="push-right">28F 07/17 01:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zeumax/push?y=14" target="_blank">zeumax</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:會韓文有距離</span><span class="push-right">29F 07/17 01:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bumloveme/push?y=14" target="_blank">bumloveme</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:他們身份證本名也都用漢字寫 韓文一堆詞跟台灣超像</span><span class="push-right">30F 07/17 01:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=14" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:念起來也有點像台語</span><span class="push-right">31F 07/17 01:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bumloveme/push?y=14" target="_blank">bumloveme</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:去讀韓國古書還是現代法律 就一堆漢字了</span><span class="push-right">32F 07/17 01:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但文字這麼易學,等於母語是韓語的話,很容易就能學會寫。</span><span class="push-right">33F 07/17 01:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xex999/push?y=14" target="_blank">xex999</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那個是世宗大王發明的注音文 和中國交流還是用漢字</span><span class="push-right">34F 07/17 01:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lhanas/push?y=14" target="_blank">Lhanas</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓文子音字母有一部分是借鑑蒙古的八思巴字</span><span class="push-right">35F 07/17 01:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FuYen/push?y=14" target="_blank">FuYen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:母語是中文的話學韓文也很快 漢字詞超~~~~~多</span><span class="push-right">36F 07/17 02:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FuYen/push?y=14" target="_blank">FuYen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:學過日文就更快 語序幾乎一樣</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wanghong/push?y=14" target="_blank">wanghong</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣如果去中文化,全部用注音就可以了</span><span class="push-right">38F 07/17 02:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/all0pha765/push?y=14" target="_blank">all0pha765</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓國每個人都會有漢字名嗎</span><span class="push-right">39F 07/17 02:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoveBushido/push?y=14" target="_blank">LoveBushido</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幾乎都有,好像身份證上有註記漢字</span><span class="push-right">40F 07/17 03:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/requiescatjr/push?y=14" target="_blank">requiescatjr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:非人語言</span><span class="push-right">41F 07/17 04:23</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">aspeed</span><span style="color:#808000">:當然要創新聞字阿 不然又會被426說 韓族國土是中國的XD</span></div></pre>
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[新聞] 澳洲打工族:我一個禮拜賺22K,憑什麼要我們回去領22k?
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2014-07-16T00:09:32+08:00
2014-07-17T17:52:34+08:00
澳洲打工族:我一個禮拜賺22K,憑什麼要我們回去領22k?
記者李鴻典/綜合報導
赴澳打工,到底是學子勇敢的選擇?還只是單純為了掙較多的錢,求物質上的滿足?台灣
的年輕人為什麼要遠赴澳洲打工,出賣勞力?NOWnews《今日新聞》取得目前正在澳洲打
工度假的一名年輕人同意,以最貼近年輕人的觀點,分享工作的歷程感想,他不諱言,「
我在澳洲工作一周五天、朝九晚五準時下班,『一個星期就有22K』;憑什麼要我們回去
領22k?」
家住台南、畢業於國立高雄大學的黃景廷(Rex Huang),今年踏上澳洲打工度假的體會之
旅;對台灣媒體近日頻以台勞、年輕人的悲歌來形容赴外打工,他說,或許是因為本身待
在這樣的環境,這些媒體述說的事件三不五時都在生活裡上演,看了也不覺得大驚小怪,
「稀鬆平常,只覺好笑」。
黃景廷指出,在澳洲打工度假的台灣年輕人大概分兩種,其一,來澳洲當台灣勞工,瘋狂
賺錢,只想要存錢帶回台灣;另一種打工度假的背包客,存了一筆旅費就去旅行,享受學
習異國文化與價值觀、認識不同的朋友,「純粹都是個人的選擇」。
「來澳洲半年,我剛好工作了3個月度假了3個月,我已經經過3個州、五個大城,開了 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> kenny1300175 (蘇湖)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [新聞] 澳洲打工族:我一個禮拜賺22K,憑什麼要我們回去領22k?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Jul 16 00:09:32 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgR">澳洲打工族:我一個禮拜賺22K,憑什麼要我們回去領22k?</span></div>
記者李鴻典/綜合報導
<div class="combine-lines">赴澳打工,到底是學子勇敢的選擇?還只是單純為了掙較多的錢,求物質上的滿足?台灣
的年輕人為什麼要遠赴澳洲打工,出賣勞力?NOWnews《今日新聞》取得目前正在澳洲打
工度假的一名年輕人同意,以最貼近年輕人的觀點,分享工作的歷程感想,他不諱言,「
我在澳洲工作一周五天、朝九晚五準時下班,『一個星期就有22K』;憑什麼要我們回去
領22k?」</div>
<div class="combine-lines">家住台南、畢業於國立高雄大學的黃景廷(Rex Huang),今年踏上澳洲打工度假的體會之
旅;對台灣媒體近日頻以台勞、年輕人的悲歌來形容赴外打工,他說,或許是因為本身待
在這樣的環境,這些媒體述說的事件三不五時都在生活裡上演,看了也不覺得大驚小怪,
「稀鬆平常,只覺好笑」。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">黃景廷指出,在澳洲打工度假的台灣年輕人大概分兩種,其一,來澳洲當台灣勞工,瘋狂
賺錢,只想要存錢帶回台灣;另一種打工度假的背包客,存了一筆旅費就去旅行,享受學
習異國文化與價值觀、認識不同的朋友,「純粹都是個人的選擇」。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">「來澳洲半年,我剛好工作了3個月度假了3個月,我已經經過3個州、五個大城,開了6、
7千公里路,更不要提途中所有的美景讓人難以忘懷,我過得不是很奢華,但是也不至於
餓肚子,我過得很快樂」。</div>
黃景廷表示,對於這件事情大家應該正視的,是台灣的大環境與政府的作為。為什麼年輕
有為的台灣人要到國外當勞工?說真的就是環境真的很差,政府不知道在做甚麼事情。
<div class="combine-lines">「在台灣,我的大學同學畢業以後就失業,經歷一段時間才能找到工作的,但找到的工作
,也不見得是符合自己興趣的工作,無奈只為了糊口飯吃、為五斗米折腰,『上班打卡、
下班責任,假日做到死』,一個月才領22K,其中有多少要支出生活所需:餐費、房租、
交通費,一個月到底可以存多少錢?甚麼時候才有積蓄可以度假?買車?買房?結婚?養
小孩?」</div>
<div class="combine-lines">「在澳洲我了解到,世界很大、很不一樣,也很有落差」黃景廷說,「我一個背包客,在
澳洲工作一周五天、朝九晚五準時下班,『一個星期就有22K』;假日上班還有加倍的薪
資穩定工作一個月可以存到五六萬塊」,此外,認真工作老闆還會肯定你、鼓勵你,說穿
了,花更少的精力換更大的利益誰都想要,「憑什麼要我們回去領22k?」</div>
<div class="combine-lines">黃景廷直言,現在的政府,「只在乎草莓不草莓 真的有在乎過年輕人的付出與所得成比
例嗎?」他說,澳洲人問他,「為什麼你們,一周工作5天還不嫌多,有的人要做6天、7
天累死自己?」對澳洲人來說,工作3、4天就足以養活自己好好過生活;多工作2、3天所
存的積蓄,都是自己45歲以後的旅遊基金。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">「因為他們40幾歲就開始享受退休生活、四處旅行度假,過一些『真正的生活』」,他說
,難怪他一路旅行,每次露營不論平假日,露營區總是滿滿的都是人,去跟那些都開著露
營車度假的大哥大姊聊天,他們都說「這才是生活該有的樣子啊!」到處走走到處看看,
悠哉慢活,認識一些不同地方來的朋友,然後再下一個地方度假。</div>
黃景廷說,澳洲人跟他說「We are Work to live我們是為了讓生活更好而工作,You
are Live to work你們是為了讓自己生存而工作」,很簡單的句子調換,卻有很大很大的
落差。
<div class="combine-lines">「澳洲政府對澳洲人課稅讓他們怨聲載道,但是澳洲政府能讓澳洲人有這樣的生活水準;
台灣政府對台灣人課稅讓他們怨聲載道,但是台灣政府到底給了台灣人民甚麼樣的生活水
平?」黃景廷直言,不懂台灣政府到底在做甚麼樣的大事業,進口袋跟到瑞士的不要算,
其他的錢到底花去哪裡了?</div>
<div class="combine-lines">黃景廷說,就他所知道的,運動產業撐不起來,籃球棒球甚麼都說經費不足;「待遇不好
選手怎麼認真練習拿冠軍領金牌?」休閒產業也做不起來,觀光建設不夠、國際知名度不
足,只知道讓中國大陸遊客來買鳳梨酥怎麼讓世界看見?釣魚台買不下來,只有徵文活動
,眼睜睜的看著日本要去插國旗。hTC扶不起來,只會要求台灣人支持,它都已經自稱是
中國大陸品牌…大部分的人民努力卻賺不到錢,請問,錢到哪裡去了?</div>
<div class="combine-lines">「政府到底有沒有苦民所苦,站在一般小老百姓的角度去感受?」黃景廷說,為什麼台灣
人民辛苦努力付出,卻沒有辦法得到對等的回報?還會有官員一天到晚說些「萬眾皆差我
還好」的鬼話?</div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/basketkdash/push?y=14" target="_blank">basketkdash</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈 一堆台灣人脆弱的情感受傷囉 跟支那沒甚麼兩樣嘛</span><span class="push-right">55F 07/16 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tomy886/push?y=14" target="_blank">tomy886</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:他沒說錯吧 戰什麼 鬼島 幹</span><span class="push-right">56F 07/16 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/b00668880/push?y=14" target="_blank">b00668880</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人家就算回台 競爭力還是比廢文宅強</span><span class="push-right">57F 07/16 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/totogood/push?y=14" target="_blank">totogood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:他講的是事實 一堆人崩潰是怎樣 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">58F 07/16 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lanucelot/push?y=14" target="_blank">lanucelot</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你不回來領22k繳稅,郭冠英給誰養???????</span><span class="push-right">59F 07/16 00:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/changnick502/push?y=14" target="_blank">changnick502</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高雄大學ZZ</span><span class="push-right">60F 07/16 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/teardropbox/push?y=14" target="_blank">teardropbox</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:啥遊學 其實就是去當台勞</span><span class="push-right">61F 07/16 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/royshih0418/push?y=14" target="_blank">royshih0418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:噓的是慣老闆或是奴隸?</span><span class="push-right">62F 07/16 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/magi3Q/push?y=14" target="_blank">magi3Q</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒競爭力</span><span class="push-right">63F 07/16 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aliceryugu/push?y=14" target="_blank">aliceryugu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講的話很有道理啊@@只是沒辦法改變</span><span class="push-right">64F 07/16 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nocturneC/push?y=14" target="_blank">nocturneC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高雄有什麼大學很頂尖的?</span><span class="push-right">65F 07/16 00:20</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:臺灣經濟果實不是放入關商口袋就是拿去中國開發了</span><span class="push-right">67F 07/16 00:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cervelo1995/push?y=14" target="_blank">Cervelo1995</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其他觀點都認同, 但HTC私人產業乾國家屁事~ 內建92的</span><span class="push-right">68F 07/16 00:21</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cervelo1995/push?y=14" target="_blank">Cervelo1995</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中國品牌就不要拿出來說嘴了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dwlui/push?y=14" target="_blank">dwlui</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 噓的都是資方打手(誤</span><span class="push-right">70F 07/16 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cain376/push?y=14" target="_blank">cain376</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好多689勞工眼紅人家領比你多</span><span class="push-right">71F 07/16 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linyap/push?y=14" target="_blank">linyap</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看推文就知道 奴性重的人還是佔大部分啊</span><span class="push-right">72F 07/16 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/royshih0418/push?y=14" target="_blank">royshih0418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人家去外國當台勞比在台灣當台勞賺得多很多耶...</span><span class="push-right">73F 07/16 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poorcharles/push?y=14" target="_blank">poorcharles</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幾年前的文章?</span><span class="push-right">74F 07/16 00:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/scarface/push?y=14" target="_blank">scarface</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回台灣搞不好存款還電爆面試你的主管XD~</span><span class="push-right">75F 07/16 00:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hidexebih/push?y=14" target="_blank">hidexebih</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本老魯現身說法,真的有本事的都想方設法拿簽證...</span><span class="push-right">76F 07/16 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xdbx/push?y=14" target="_blank">xdbx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幾年前台灣被講鬼島一堆人罵 現在看到鬼島一堆人講</span><span class="push-right">77F 07/16 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:=====臺灣經濟果實 六塊官商吃 三塊中國吃 一塊百姓搶</span><span class="push-right">78F 07/16 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linyap/push?y=14" target="_blank">linyap</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:主管:我要負擔保險車貸房貸小孩教育費父母孝親費... (沒錢)</span><span class="push-right">79F 07/16 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acegogogo/push?y=14" target="_blank">acegogogo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆魯宅腦怒叫他別回來</span><span class="push-right">80F 07/16 00:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Baby/push?y=14" target="_blank">Baby</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推這篇</span><span class="push-right">81F 07/16 00:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peter821201/push?y=14" target="_blank">peter821201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恭喜你終於買好網路線網路撥接......什麼你說IE很慢?!</span><span class="push-right">82F 07/16 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=14" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文挺有病的</span><span class="push-right">83F 07/16 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/doongmiyu/push?y=14" target="_blank">doongmiyu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蠻台肯的呀</span><span class="push-right">84F 07/16 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satan24/push?y=14" target="_blank">satan24</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有種不要回來啊!</span><span class="push-right">85F 07/16 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pital/push?y=14" target="_blank">pital</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:QQ</span><span class="push-right">86F 07/16 00:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BBBroflovski/push?y=14" target="_blank">BBBroflovski</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:能不回來就不要回來= = 趕快逃離鬼島</span><span class="push-right">87F 07/16 00:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stu25936/push?y=14" target="_blank">stu25936</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人在崩潰什麼 羨慕別人打工賺得比較多嗎..</span><span class="push-right">88F 07/16 00:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/young90405/push?y=14" target="_blank">young90405</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不是一個禮拜22k就是很高啊 他們CPI高的嚇人啊</span><span class="push-right">89F 07/16 00:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ronray7799</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ronray7799/push?y=14" target="_blank">ronray7799</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就跟外勞會來台灣的動機一樣啊科科</span><span class="push-right">90F 07/16 00:29</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NKTcell/push?y=14" target="_blank">NKTcell</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人家講事實 一堆人在崩潰什麼 台灣現在就是這樣阿</span><span class="push-right">91F 07/16 00:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KEDEN/push?y=14" target="_blank">KEDEN</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:最近再找工作 有點感慨..........QQ</span><span class="push-right">92F 07/16 00:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/royshih0418/push?y=14" target="_blank">royshih0418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在外勞幾乎是走投無路才會來台灣吧...</span><span class="push-right">93F 07/16 00:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ronray7799</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ronray7799/push?y=14" target="_blank">ronray7799</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣課的稅哪裡高??? 我可沒聽人抱怨過</span><span class="push-right">94F 07/16 00:30</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/plusonezero/push?y=14" target="_blank">plusonezero</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這是事實吧,有什麼好酸的</span><span class="push-right">95F 07/16 00:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TassadarGau/push?y=14" target="_blank">TassadarGau</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難怪是鬼島,奴性重就算了還崩潰。</span><span class="push-right">96F 07/16 00:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/benben0112/push?y=14" target="_blank">benben0112</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸民又崩潰了</span><span class="push-right">97F 07/16 00:31</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/royshih0418/push?y=14" target="_blank">royshih0418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:以前fab裡還有懂英文的菲律賓可以用 現在只剩中英文都</span><span class="push-right">99F 07/16 00:31</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/royshih0418/push?y=14" target="_blank">royshih0418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不會的越南妹</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ronray7799 問題事現在外勞也不想來臺灣了</span><span class="push-right">101F 07/16 00:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loki1789/push?y=14" target="_blank">loki1789</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~</span><span class="push-right">102F 07/16 00:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/potionx/push?y=14" target="_blank">potionx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:至少賺的比在台灣多 存一筆錢移民到更便宜的地方不就好啦</span><span class="push-right">103F 07/16 00:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/royshih0418/push?y=14" target="_blank">royshih0418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過越南妹有的真的挺正的A_A</span><span class="push-right">104F 07/16 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ronray7799</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ronray7799/push?y=14" target="_blank">ronray7799</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是不知道書面情況啦 但我生活圈的外勞只增不減</span><span class="push-right">105F 07/16 00:33</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poppipe/push?y=14" target="_blank">poppipe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:做幾年還是要回來 Q_Q</span><span class="push-right">106F 07/16 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/otld/push?y=14" target="_blank">otld</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆犯賤的奴隸看見他人講出事實就崩潰了</span><span class="push-right">107F 07/16 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/potionx/push?y=14" target="_blank">potionx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:確實有些外勞不想來,會來的也有很多會...落跑</span><span class="push-right">108F 07/16 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ronray7799</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ronray7799/push?y=14" target="_blank">ronray7799</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:尤其是賣吃的還真不少都是女外勞</span><span class="push-right">109F 07/16 00:33</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luckyBF/push?y=14" target="_blank">luckyBF</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推,至少人家肯做台勞</span><span class="push-right">110F 07/16 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bogy1188/push?y=14" target="_blank">bogy1188</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!</span><span class="push-right">111F 07/16 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jayouch/push?y=14" target="_blank">jayouch</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好多酸酸...</span><span class="push-right">112F 07/16 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CowBaoGan/push?y=14" target="_blank">CowBaoGan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文一大堆奴性重的 難怪一輩子當狗</span><span class="push-right">113F 07/16 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:========票投賣臺黨 屈就剝削商 痛批反抗者==========</span><span class="push-right">114F 07/16 00:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/huanyou/push?y=14" target="_blank">huanyou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆出不去的宅宅崩潰了</span><span class="push-right">115F 07/16 00:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GORDON2037/push?y=14" target="_blank">GORDON2037</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講的話很有道理啊,反而是那些在酸的...不懂在酸啥</span><span class="push-right">116F 07/16 00:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/max5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">max5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實他講的很有道理啊 怎麼推文怪怪的啊</span><span class="push-right">117F 07/16 00:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/s8923314/push?y=14" target="_blank">s8923314</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:才剛出社會就想過退休生活!!??</span><span class="push-right">118F 07/16 00:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31415926de/push?y=14" target="_blank">a31415926de</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:kerker 點出事實,腦袋夠清楚,有出去就是有差</span><span class="push-right">119F 07/16 00:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Hambowbow/push?y=14" target="_blank">Hambowbow</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:多久之前的"新"聞了....黨工加油好嗎?</span><span class="push-right">120F 07/16 00:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goldber123/push?y=14" target="_blank">goldber123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:所以要幾歲才能開始規劃退休生活?</span><span class="push-right">121F 07/16 00:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ronray7799</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ronray7799/push?y=14" target="_blank">ronray7799</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:.......台灣真的有受薪階層抱怨稅繳很多的嗎?</span><span class="push-right">122F 07/16 00:38</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goheihaley/push?y=14" target="_blank">goheihaley</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鼓勵年輕人多出去看看 看這世界有多大 多嚐試不同事物</span><span class="push-right">123F 07/16 00:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跟外勞來台灣差多了 台灣的工作環境跟澳洲比?</span><span class="push-right">124F 07/16 00:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/unreal29/push?y=14" target="_blank">unreal29</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講的是事實啊...偉哉鬼島人</span><span class="push-right">125F 07/16 00:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:反而有些跑不出去的鬼島勞工還會酸呢...</span><span class="push-right">126F 07/16 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knon060718/push?y=14" target="_blank">knon060718</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有什麼好酸的 這就是台勞輸出阿 以為以後還有外勞嗎</span><span class="push-right">127F 07/16 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LIONDODO/push?y=14" target="_blank">LIONDODO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講的哪裡有道理XD Work to live也不能解決他提出的問題</span><span class="push-right">128F 07/16 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peterhuo/push?y=14" target="_blank">peterhuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">129F 07/16 00:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31415926de/push?y=14" target="_blank">a31415926de</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:能待在那誰想回來? 不檢討自己環境差還各種酸,偉哉</span><span class="push-right">130F 07/16 00:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serica/push?y=14" target="_blank">serica</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只是個案</span><span class="push-right">131F 07/16 00:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yzelly/push?y=14" target="_blank">yzelly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回來也沒差 反正在那邊做一個月等於在鬼島做三~四個月</span><span class="push-right">132F 07/16 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:外勞都嫌台灣薪資低啦 以後外勞都跑中國去 誰還來台灣</span><span class="push-right">133F 07/16 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AllenYAYA/push?y=14" target="_blank">AllenYAYA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:比留在鬼島好多了!!!!</span><span class="push-right">134F 07/16 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hjfreaks/push?y=14" target="_blank">hjfreaks</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人沒看懂內文?他有條件可以出去也要酸 台灣就鬼島啊</span><span class="push-right">135F 07/16 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:領這個薪資 我看留在台灣的才像台勞喔...</span><span class="push-right">136F 07/16 00:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31415926de/push?y=14" target="_blank">a31415926de</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這邊領22K能累積啥?反而搞壞自己身體,出去賺幾年正解</span><span class="push-right">137F 07/16 00:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:留在台灣 加班加沒完 回家倒頭就睡 難怪會酸出國的</span><span class="push-right">138F 07/16 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oread168/push?y=14" target="_blank">oread168</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣老闆月淨賺1000萬的話大概只會發100萬工資</span><span class="push-right">139F 07/16 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xdbx/push?y=14" target="_blank">xdbx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣一堆工作不會比摘水果弄包裝高尚啦 都幾年了還在台勞</span><span class="push-right">140F 07/16 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nojoe/push?y=14" target="_blank">nojoe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯啊</span><span class="push-right">141F 07/16 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人家工時正常 還可以拿閒暇時間學習/遊玩/健身</span><span class="push-right">142F 07/16 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/deepdish/push?y=14" target="_blank">deepdish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:餓了八年 當然要吃撐一點才划算囉 老百姓餓死算啥呢?XD</span><span class="push-right">143F 07/16 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:加班也正常拿加班費 反觀台灣勞工跟狗一樣</span><span class="push-right">144F 07/16 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/after1/push?y=14" target="_blank">after1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯.. 錢到哪去了?</span><span class="push-right">145F 07/16 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31415926de/push?y=14" target="_blank">a31415926de</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我是主管反而會錄取他,在台灣做些22K工作能多厲害</span><span class="push-right">146F 07/16 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ppc/push?y=14" target="_blank">ppc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:加油~!</span><span class="push-right">147F 07/16 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到人家出國就喊:反正你遲早會被趕回來...</span><span class="push-right">148F 07/16 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oscar0322/push?y=14" target="_blank">oscar0322</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在早沒那光景了、一堆那那度假的</span><span class="push-right">149F 07/16 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kloippoo/push?y=14" target="_blank">kloippoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:受傷就會回來住院了頗广</span><span class="push-right">150F 07/16 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:======臺灣錢:6成進官商 3成進中國 1成大家搶=======</span><span class="push-right">151F 07/16 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oscar0322/push?y=14" target="_blank">oscar0322</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:都靠家裡支援、打工個屁</span><span class="push-right">152F 07/16 00:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/douge/push?y=14" target="_blank">douge</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慘? 慘在哪?</span><span class="push-right">153F 07/16 00:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31415926de/push?y=14" target="_blank">a31415926de</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:賺幾年回來存款也比22K多,也體驗過人生,完勝</span><span class="push-right">154F 07/16 00:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/douge/push?y=14" target="_blank">douge</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:玩夠了 又存了錢 這樣也慘 lol</span><span class="push-right">155F 07/16 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:殖民黨只會討好商人及中國 他門只是把臺灣當奴役用</span><span class="push-right">156F 07/16 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">thigefe</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thigefe/push?y=14" target="_blank">thigefe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不要在鍵盤打工了,快出國吧,有能力不用在這領五百</span><span class="push-right">157F 07/16 00:47</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tist/push?y=14" target="_blank">tist</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回來繼續失業</span><span class="push-right">158F 07/16 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HKfood/push?y=14" target="_blank">HKfood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為什麼臺灣人的命運就是爆肝?真的很悲哀啊</span><span class="push-right">159F 07/16 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dnek/push?y=14" target="_blank">dnek</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這傢伙講的好透徹…</span><span class="push-right">160F 07/16 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dinayogi11/push?y=14" target="_blank">dinayogi11</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:.......</span><span class="push-right">161F 07/16 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣人的命運就是爆肝阿 你不想爆 還會被隔壁的笑...</span><span class="push-right">162F 07/16 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TaiBeiGuo/push?y=14" target="_blank">TaiBeiGuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">163F 07/16 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JamieWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">JamieWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:個人選擇有啥好酸的 台灣人工時長卻跟薪資不成正比</span><span class="push-right">164F 07/16 00:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikejr/push?y=14" target="_blank">mikejr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:矮額 爆肝你都忍不住 好遜喔</span><span class="push-right">165F 07/16 00:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JamieWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">JamieWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難道不是事實嗎?</span><span class="push-right">166F 07/16 00:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ronray7799</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ronray7799/push?y=14" target="_blank">ronray7799</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你家後院挖到石油或鈾礦就不用爆肝啦</span><span class="push-right">167F 07/16 00:50</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TaiBeiGuo/push?y=14" target="_blank">TaiBeiGuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很勇敢</span><span class="push-right">168F 07/16 00:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Imhuang/push?y=14" target="_blank">Imhuang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:東亞都在比哪國最爆肝的,資源少人口多嘛....</span><span class="push-right">169F 07/16 00:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tkfc5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tkfc5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好多奴性重的呵…</span><span class="push-right">170F 07/16 00:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:ronray7799 放心 挖到也是官商及中國分 臺灣人去旁邊</span><span class="push-right">171F 07/16 00:51</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:=============Imhuang 新加坡表示 香港表示 韓國表示</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yuyun0724/push?y=14" target="_blank">yuyun0724</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣就一堆腦滿腸肥的老闆 又跟政客掛勾</span><span class="push-right">173F 07/16 00:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/scarbywind/push?y=14" target="_blank">scarbywind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:挖到石油或礦,會直接被徵收 發財也不會是你發</span><span class="push-right">174F 07/16 00:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/scarbywind/push?y=14" target="_blank">scarbywind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中華民國領域、專屬經濟海域及大陸礁層內之礦均為國有</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xxKWANxx/push?y=14" target="_blank">xxKWANxx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:國民黨馬政府賺飽洗飽較重要</span><span class="push-right">176F 07/16 00:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Imhuang/push?y=14" target="_blank">Imhuang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:w大提的那幾個在國際調查上工時表現也相當慘烈</span><span class="push-right">177F 07/16 00:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但人家工時輸臺灣 薪水贏臺灣</span><span class="push-right">178F 07/16 01:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eldar/push?y=14" target="_blank">eldar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說的不錯啊</span><span class="push-right">179F 07/16 01:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/walk1987/push?y=14" target="_blank">walk1987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣就算是國立大學畢業還不是一樣一堆領22K</span><span class="push-right">180F 07/16 01:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/walk1987/push?y=14" target="_blank">walk1987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還在那邊自以為高潮國立畢業就高人一等</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/walk1987/push?y=14" target="_blank">walk1987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:存款簿拿出來就見真章了,台灣各種狗屎學歷論述</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chogosu/push?y=14" target="_blank">chogosu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:學歷是假的,賺到錢才是真的.</span><span class="push-right">183F 07/16 01:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sam36388/push?y=14" target="_blank">sam36388</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:跳針到爆炸 那邊一大堆騙人的不講?</span><span class="push-right">184F 07/16 01:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/IloveBlack2/push?y=14" target="_blank">IloveBlack2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:結果還是要回臺灣領22k阿</span><span class="push-right">185F 07/16 01:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Bokolo/push?y=14" target="_blank">Bokolo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說得好,脫離奴性思想</span><span class="push-right">186F 07/16 01:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/killeryuan/push?y=14" target="_blank">killeryuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:正解啊</span><span class="push-right">187F 07/16 01:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Bokolo/push?y=14" target="_blank">Bokolo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不過台灣有些人退休領納稅錢就比你去澳洲賺得還多..</span><span class="push-right">188F 07/16 01:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fermi2/push?y=14" target="_blank">Fermi2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:瑞士xd</span><span class="push-right">189F 07/16 01:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ichibanhoshi/push?y=14" target="_blank">ichibanhoshi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:下輩子投胎當老外吧</span><span class="push-right">190F 07/16 01:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Green1216/push?y=14" target="_blank">Green1216</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說的很棒啊</span><span class="push-right">191F 07/16 01:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hxh0810/push?y=14" target="_blank">hxh0810</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">192F 07/16 01:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我下輩子只想待在天國 不想在來這了</span><span class="push-right">193F 07/16 01:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wugesmin/push?y=14" target="_blank">wugesmin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看完給推</span><span class="push-right">194F 07/16 01:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qqwe1017/push?y=14" target="_blank">qqwe1017</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:澳洲打黑工賺錢 結果窮的只能吃土司配牛奶 顆顆</span><span class="push-right">195F 07/16 01:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/archon/push?y=14" target="_blank">archon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:身邊有好幾個有澳洲WH經驗的朋友,評價都蠻正面的呀 <3</span><span class="push-right">196F 07/16 01:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/archon/push?y=14" target="_blank">archon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:怎麼總有人看到別人出國就崩潰了...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loversii/push?y=14" target="_blank">loversii</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:吵什麼 通通領22K</span><span class="push-right">198F 07/16 01:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BlueGlad/push?y=14" target="_blank">BlueGlad</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 自食其力 :反正遲早要回來 先撈一點更好</span><span class="push-right">199F 07/16 01:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fikruank/push?y=14" target="_blank">fikruank</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說穿了,有能力就到國外定居發展,沒能力就在台灣被壓榨</span><span class="push-right">200F 07/16 01:44</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fikruank/push?y=14" target="_blank">fikruank</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人不就是常態分配,這很正常啊,遵從市場機制</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/omolando/push?y=14" target="_blank">omolando</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在澳洲當台勞也總比在台灣當台奴好</span><span class="push-right">202F 07/16 01:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SVXQ/push?y=14" target="_blank">SVXQ</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有啦,需要看病的時候就會回來啦</span><span class="push-right">203F 07/16 01:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/d8731400/push?y=14" target="_blank">d8731400</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回來一定要上班嗎 不能自己當老闆?</span><span class="push-right">204F 07/16 01:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">CenaC</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CenaC/push?y=14" target="_blank">CenaC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回來英文能力也比魯宅好 有什麼好酸的</span><span class="push-right">205F 07/16 01:53</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/littlepogi/push?y=14" target="_blank">littlepogi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:個人選擇,不過我面試時遊學的都先剔除</span><span class="push-right">206F 07/16 01:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ooopstev/push?y=14" target="_blank">ooopstev</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:認識的都馬存一兩百來考國考,或自己開店了,誰理你22K</span><span class="push-right">207F 07/16 01:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/deathnote14/push?y=14" target="_blank">deathnote14</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:請問您面試 薪水會願意開多少? 有一周22K嗎?</span><span class="push-right">208F 07/16 01:58</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/deathnote14/push?y=14" target="_blank">deathnote14</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不然這種東西也是互相的阿 公司挑人 人也挑公司阿</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/foryou168/push?y=14" target="_blank">foryou168</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就跟當初外勞來台因為薪水比他們本國多五倍十倍啊</span><span class="push-right">210F 07/16 02:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/foryou168/push?y=14" target="_blank">foryou168</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在外勞還不屑來台灣了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/beinghunted/push?y=14" target="_blank">beinghunted</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文裡一堆資本家的奴才超好笑</span><span class="push-right">212F 07/16 02:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joinlin/push?y=14" target="_blank">joinlin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹嘛噓 不懂 你也可以出國打工啊 至少他外語能力回來也強</span><span class="push-right">213F 07/16 02:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/littlepogi/push?y=14" target="_blank">littlepogi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:薪水比照科技部,我沒說遊學的不好,只是不適合</span><span class="push-right">214F 07/16 02:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pojohn/push?y=14" target="_blank">pojohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:政府在炒房炒房啊..你賺的有官員多嗎?</span><span class="push-right">215F 07/16 02:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ymx3xc/push?y=14" target="_blank">ymx3xc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推~</span><span class="push-right">216F 07/16 02:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aaaaa0703/push?y=14" target="_blank">aaaaa0703</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:前面的推文真的病了…</span><span class="push-right">217F 07/16 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dielivefish/push?y=14" target="_blank">dielivefish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 大家都知道鬼島的缺點 就689和KMT不知道 呵呵</span><span class="push-right">218F 07/16 02:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ashley1988/push?y=14" target="_blank">Ashley1988</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:至少他賺得比大部分的人都還多也是事實..</span><span class="push-right">219F 07/16 02:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiddlive2003/push?y=14" target="_blank">kiddlive2003</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:出去過怎樣都比龜在龜島當井底之蛙好吧</span><span class="push-right">220F 07/16 02:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xdctjh/push?y=14" target="_blank">xdctjh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:上面是在悲憤什麼啦</span><span class="push-right">221F 07/16 03:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcofwind/push?y=14" target="_blank">arcofwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:賺一堆錢回國做生意當老闆 誰還跟你當員工阿 用點腦子~</span><span class="push-right">222F 07/16 03:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/catmiou/push?y=14" target="_blank">catmiou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">223F 07/16 03:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcofwind/push?y=14" target="_blank">arcofwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:難怪滷一輩子 比滷蛋還魯 不公平就反抗 很難嗎?</span><span class="push-right">224F 07/16 03:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/huangyd/push?y=14" target="_blank">huangyd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一群db2戰自己人 不去面對政府的無能 哭哭喔</span><span class="push-right">225F 07/16 03:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcofwind/push?y=14" target="_blank">arcofwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:未來是屬於敢做為的人,你不為自己努力 就算未來環境變</span><span class="push-right">226F 07/16 03:28</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcofwind/push?y=14" target="_blank">arcofwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好,不肯迎頭趕上的人還是一樣只能吃屎。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BMHSEA/push?y=14" target="_blank">BMHSEA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:前幾樓想帶風向 沒想到這麼悲哀</span><span class="push-right">228F 07/16 03:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/girlvivi25/push?y=14" target="_blank">girlvivi25</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:去不錯 可是還是要回來面對現實也是真的</span><span class="push-right">229F 07/16 03:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lion410202/push?y=14" target="_blank">lion410202</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">230F 07/16 03:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amazingian/push?y=14" target="_blank">amazingian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:去賺2年回台買房當包租公繳房貸不好?</span><span class="push-right">231F 07/16 03:54</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amazingian/push?y=14" target="_blank">amazingian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:為何推文如此排斥( ̄▽ ̄)?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leon7777/push?y=14" target="_blank">leon7777</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">233F 07/16 04:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gotohikaru/push?y=14" target="_blank">gotohikaru</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為推文的連500都被扣惹</span><span class="push-right">234F 07/16 04:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HLPT/push?y=14" target="_blank">HLPT</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現在魯蛇去外國打工講話還這麼大聲</span><span class="push-right">235F 07/16 04:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/facefear/push?y=14" target="_blank">facefear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:調查:澳洲物價冠全球</span><span class="push-right">236F 07/16 05:06</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/facefear/push?y=14" target="_blank">facefear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:<a href="http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/13/4/28/n3857585.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/13/4/28/n3857585.htm</a></span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/facefear/push?y=14" target="_blank">facefear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:.....</span><span class="push-right">238F 07/16 05:08</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/facefear/push?y=14" target="_blank">facefear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒培養技之才 在澳洲還是在最底層的人</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Error999/push?y=14" target="_blank">Error999</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:事實是會存的一年存超過台灣22K一年賺的總薪 別自慰了</span><span class="push-right">240F 07/16 05:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arwenfor/push?y=14" target="_blank">arwenfor</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:愣了一下,是學長噎!不過這文章有點久了</span><span class="push-right">241F 07/16 06:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rota/push?y=14" target="_blank">rota</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:噓的腦殘吧,連內文都不看</span><span class="push-right">242F 07/16 06:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kop5236/push?y=14" target="_blank">kop5236</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就台勞阿 看你能囂張到幾歲</span><span class="push-right">243F 07/16 06:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lungerX/push?y=14" target="_blank">lungerX</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">244F 07/16 06:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/darkfantasy/push?y=14" target="_blank">darkfantasy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 一篇舊聞就讓一堆領22K的崩潰</span><span class="push-right">245F 07/16 06:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pro33342/push?y=14" target="_blank">pro33342</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人家有勇氣 有人只想龜在舒適圈 然後怪環境差</span><span class="push-right">246F 07/16 06:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eric45670/push?y=14" target="_blank">eric45670</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:事實就是如此 一堆奴方還自欺欺人</span><span class="push-right">247F 07/16 07:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/alcard22/push?y=14" target="_blank">alcard22</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這才是對的,有些小雜種只能眼紅</span><span class="push-right">248F 07/16 07:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/prkfcpr/push?y=14" target="_blank">prkfcpr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:雖然說的中肯,但你時間到了還是得回來</span><span class="push-right">249F 07/16 07:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/showhere/push?y=14" target="_blank">showhere</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">250F 07/16 07:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CP791086/push?y=14" target="_blank">CP791086</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講話超中二</span><span class="push-right">251F 07/16 07:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/choujim/push?y=14" target="_blank">choujim</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:原來準備好了是準備好讓大家紛紛想出去當台勞 果然準備好</span><span class="push-right">252F 07/16 07:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/saosinsaosin/push?y=14" target="_blank">saosinsaosin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講出事實 一堆人崩潰快笑死 被戳到痛點了嗎</span><span class="push-right">253F 07/16 07:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Darius/push?y=14" target="_blank">Darius</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆逃不出去的仇很值很高喔? ㄎㄎ</span><span class="push-right">254F 07/16 07:50</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Darius/push?y=14" target="_blank">Darius</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:還在那邊"主管看到你去澳洲"咧,被奴到這種程度了嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kshtainan/push?y=14" target="_blank">kshtainan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">256F 07/16 07:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PCcaduceus/push?y=14" target="_blank">PCcaduceus</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:舊聞到現在還可以打政府的臉就知道這這政府多廢</span><span class="push-right">257F 07/16 08:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silentence/push?y=14" target="_blank">silentence</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:因為簽證要到期了阿</span><span class="push-right">258F 07/16 08:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/soooooooo/push?y=14" target="_blank">soooooooo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 領22k</span><span class="push-right">259F 07/16 08:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/alan0204/push?y=14" target="_blank">alan0204</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高雄大學怎麼了 有這麼爛嗎 不知道酸的人甚麼學校</span><span class="push-right">260F 07/16 08:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PCcaduceus/push?y=14" target="_blank">PCcaduceus</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸的人就眼紅啊</span><span class="push-right">261F 07/16 08:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/soooooooo/push?y=14" target="_blank">soooooooo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸的人是既得利益者還是被洗腦的奴隸 台灣薪資環境本來</span><span class="push-right">262F 07/16 08:11</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/soooooooo/push?y=14" target="_blank">soooooooo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就很有問題啊</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wowkg21/push?y=14" target="_blank">wowkg21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣政府真的爛到有剩</span><span class="push-right">264F 07/16 08:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/skai844/push?y=14" target="_blank">skai844</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我這週只有27k而已好失敗還有一年又7個月</span><span class="push-right">265F 07/16 08:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loguo/push?y=14" target="_blank">loguo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台肯啊,請仇恨值爆表的不要再自欺欺奴了~</span><span class="push-right">266F 07/16 08:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LCHEN/push?y=14" target="_blank">LCHEN</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說的中肯</span><span class="push-right">267F 07/16 08:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hihimen/push?y=14" target="_blank">hihimen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只會打工??難怪回台只能領22K</span><span class="push-right">268F 07/16 08:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsuanjung/push?y=14" target="_blank">hsuanjung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">269F 07/16 08:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bebeewei/push?y=14" target="_blank">bebeewei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">270F 07/16 08:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zxxl/push?y=14" target="_blank">zxxl</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不爽不要回台灣</span><span class="push-right">271F 07/16 08:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NAHAy/push?y=14" target="_blank">NAHAy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:自己國家自己救</span><span class="push-right">272F 07/16 08:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wuhoho/push?y=14" target="_blank">wuhoho</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很中肯</span><span class="push-right">273F 07/16 08:41</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zp3m06/push?y=14" target="_blank">zp3m06</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:自己選的政府 怪誰?問你父母有沒有投給娘娘啊</span><span class="push-right">275F 07/16 09:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mitim/push?y=14" target="_blank">mitim</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:澳洲人眼中難免歧視台勞</span><span class="push-right">276F 07/16 09:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lyu0001/push?y=14" target="_blank">lyu0001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:技術工才值錢,其他工作就準備失業吧</span><span class="push-right">277F 07/16 09:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kayxs/push?y=14" target="_blank">kayxs</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">278F 07/16 09:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LucAngel/push?y=14" target="_blank">LucAngel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:竟然說政府壞話,看來黃景廷要被689吐口水了</span><span class="push-right">279F 07/16 09:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blackmamba24/push?y=14" target="_blank">blackmamba24</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不得不說台灣老闆真的很摳....</span><span class="push-right">280F 07/16 09:47</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blackmamba24/push?y=14" target="_blank">blackmamba24</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:又不是沒賺 賺一堆卻捨不得幫員工加薪</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mmzznnxxbbcc/push?y=14" target="_blank">mmzznnxxbbcc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說得好 但你真的有辦法一直待在那邊嗎?</span><span class="push-right">282F 07/16 09:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sheagia/push?y=14" target="_blank">sheagia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:稅金不用算喔?一個禮拜22K要不要講一下繳多少稅?</span><span class="push-right">283F 07/16 09:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jay1943webbe/push?y=14" target="_blank">jay1943webbe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:能留在澳洲的到底有幾個 不想回來?人家還要趕你勒</span><span class="push-right">284F 07/16 09:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/simga/push?y=14" target="_blank">simga</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:現實就是如此~沒啥好酸的~至少出去的人有體驗過了~</span><span class="push-right">285F 07/16 10:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e1q3z9c7/push?y=14" target="_blank">e1q3z9c7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣真該檢討自己</span><span class="push-right">286F 07/16 10:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leonian/push?y=14" target="_blank">leonian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:淚推 因為檯面上都是權貴掌權</span><span class="push-right">287F 07/16 10:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leonian/push?y=14" target="_blank">leonian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這種爛環境連繳稅一塊錢都不願意 寧可拿去丟到河裡</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/japan428/push?y=14" target="_blank">japan428</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高雄大學.........</span><span class="push-right">289F 07/16 10:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Infinite/push?y=14" target="_blank">Infinite</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:搞不好人家期滿真的找到正職留下啊,一堆魯蛇悲憤什麼</span><span class="push-right">290F 07/16 10:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/henry70028/push?y=14" target="_blank">henry70028</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人不願意看到真相阿...</span><span class="push-right">291F 07/16 10:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kimuranene/push?y=14" target="_blank">kimuranene</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:喜歡這篇 推</span><span class="push-right">292F 07/16 10:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/diego99/push?y=14" target="_blank">diego99</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:689的選擇,苦了年輕人。</span><span class="push-right">293F 07/16 10:24</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/diego99/push?y=14" target="_blank">diego99</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:呃,2012年的舊聞</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/prog/push?y=14" target="_blank">prog</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:充滿屎蛆的鬼島嘛 意外嗎XD</span><span class="push-right">295F 07/16 10:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wake01/push?y=14" target="_blank">wake01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣連一堆白癡奴隸都被洗腦成不加班就是不上進了 沒救了</span><span class="push-right">296F 07/16 10:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iammino/push?y=14" target="_blank">iammino</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我覺得他說的很中肯啊!</span><span class="push-right">297F 07/16 10:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyo7300918/push?y=14" target="_blank">kyo7300918</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人在悲憤什麼 式在台灣過的太慘又出不去嗎</span><span class="push-right">298F 07/16 10:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZIQQ001/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZIQQ001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:他講的是事實啊 但總有一天要回台灣的</span><span class="push-right">299F 07/16 10:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZIQQ001/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZIQQ001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:689很愛說國際關 但到澳洲打工就不行</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SYNACK/push?y=14" target="_blank">SYNACK</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說的真好</span><span class="push-right">301F 07/16 10:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hdpig/push?y=14" target="_blank">hdpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有人噓到高潮惹</span><span class="push-right">302F 07/16 10:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Currahee52/push?y=14" target="_blank">Currahee52</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆奴工崩潰狂噓 到底是奴工還黨工 跟本好笑</span><span class="push-right">303F 07/16 10:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luelue/push?y=14" target="_blank">luelue</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慣老闆表示看不懂你在說什麼</span><span class="push-right">304F 07/16 11:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kk9517/push?y=14" target="_blank">kk9517</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推啊 實話就是這樣</span><span class="push-right">305F 07/16 11:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RUNINTO/push?y=14" target="_blank">RUNINTO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">306F 07/16 11:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/K951753/push?y=14" target="_blank">K951753</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆廢物宅只會酸 沒出過國不要丟人現眼了好不</span><span class="push-right">307F 07/16 11:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aj93063876/push?y=14" target="_blank">aj93063876</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯!難怪台灣勞工就像奴隸一樣,老闆放個屁一堆人一定</span><span class="push-right">308F 07/16 11:14</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aj93063876/push?y=14" target="_blank">aj93063876</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一定要快說好香!不然就叫說實話的人有種不要回來</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sss33/push?y=14" target="_blank">sss33</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">310F 07/16 11:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ebeta/push?y=14" target="_blank">ebeta</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:黨工眼紅躲推文改風向 噗~快去領500吧</span><span class="push-right">311F 07/16 11:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/anshley/push?y=14" target="_blank">anshley</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果可以去澳洲打工一輩子就繼續啊</span><span class="push-right">312F 07/16 11:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ko2042002/push?y=14" target="_blank">ko2042002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講的很中肯阿..而且把學歷跟名字都寫 至少他坦蕩蕩</span><span class="push-right">313F 07/16 11:54</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ko2042002/push?y=14" target="_blank">ko2042002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:比一堆只會在網路酸的好多了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/geraldwang/push?y=14" target="_blank">geraldwang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:等你拿到PR再來嗆聲 除非打黑工 不然早晚都要回台灣</span><span class="push-right">315F 07/16 11:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/owo2297/push?y=14" target="_blank">owo2297</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推勇氣</span><span class="push-right">316F 07/16 12:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iori9100/push?y=14" target="_blank">iori9100</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那就不要回來 祝你生病花大錢在澳洲看病^^</span><span class="push-right">317F 07/16 12:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/muo00/push?y=14" target="_blank">muo00</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推</span><span class="push-right">318F 07/16 12:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iLuciferous/push?y=14" target="_blank">iLuciferous</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆魯蛇臭酸宅 真是悲哀</span><span class="push-right">319F 07/16 12:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/machi770922/push?y=14" target="_blank">machi770922</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:op</span><span class="push-right">320F 07/16 12:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KirinP/push?y=14" target="_blank">KirinP</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:歡迎脫離鬼島</span><span class="push-right">321F 07/16 12:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wind95419/push?y=14" target="_blank">wind95419</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆酸民,吃的好,生活的好生什麼病?在鬼島吃不好,</span><span class="push-right">322F 07/16 12:57</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wind95419/push?y=14" target="_blank">wind95419</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:生活不好才會生病</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/azic33154/push?y=14" target="_blank">azic33154</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哇永遠都拿稅高物價高臺灣有健保跳針 臺灣年輕人畢業能</span><span class="push-right">324F 07/16 13:01</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/azic33154/push?y=14" target="_blank">azic33154</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一個月存五萬? 奴性真重真是好勞工 還是其實眼紅的都是</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/azic33154/push?y=14" target="_blank">azic33154</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慣老闆</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rich80908/push?y=14" target="_blank">rich80908</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人研究所去美國讀 還不也是為了賺美金...</span><span class="push-right">327F 07/16 13:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ikulan/push?y=14" target="_blank">ikulan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:"We are Work to live" 澳式英文??</span><span class="push-right">328F 07/16 13:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sam0907/push?y=14" target="_blank">Sam0907</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:22K 慣老闆</span><span class="push-right">329F 07/16 13:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luckyjune/push?y=14" target="_blank">luckyjune</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台奴還真多..果然是鬼島</span><span class="push-right">330F 07/16 13:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/damn7/push?y=14" target="_blank">damn7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這麼多眼紅的人喔 哈</span><span class="push-right">331F 07/16 13:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sabreur/push?y=14" target="_blank">sabreur</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆忌妒噓 呵呵</span><span class="push-right">332F 07/16 13:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/itshard/push?y=14" target="_blank">itshard</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看來狗民黨已經成功進住PTT了</span><span class="push-right">333F 07/16 13:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hcbd/push?y=14" target="_blank">hcbd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就在那邊當一輩子台勞阿</span><span class="push-right">334F 07/16 14:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dragoni/push?y=14" target="_blank">dragoni</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:噓的嘴臉真好笑 wwwwww 在台灣還不是勞 有差哦 腦殘</span><span class="push-right">335F 07/16 14:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rizzo123/push?y=14" target="_blank">rizzo123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看到酸民崩潰就好笑...還敢嗆人家"有本事別回來"...</span><span class="push-right">336F 07/16 15:11</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ga624641/push?y=14" target="_blank">ga624641</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說真的....如果要在澳洲待一輩子再來講大話吧...</span><span class="push-right">338F 07/16 17:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wak/push?y=14" target="_blank">wak</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:錢都被貪污了 看那個出國考察帶女助理的廢物..</span><span class="push-right">339F 07/16 18:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/albert0208/push?y=14" target="_blank">albert0208</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不錯阿 但你能待一輩子嗎</span><span class="push-right">340F 07/16 19:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/albert0208/push?y=14" target="_blank">albert0208</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:更可悲的有些人打工回來沒賺到錢然後繼續考公務員</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ax0068588440/push?y=14" target="_blank">ax0068588440</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:蠻中肯的</span><span class="push-right">342F 07/16 19:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Level/push?y=14" target="_blank">Level</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:等回台灣就知道..</span><span class="push-right">343F 07/16 20:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dearjohn/push?y=14" target="_blank">dearjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:脫離鬼島就是幸福 看看垃圾政府怎麼讓人民變勞工</span><span class="push-right">344F 07/16 20:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Kulan/push?y=14" target="_blank">Kulan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">345F 07/16 20:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lahiboy/push?y=14" target="_blank">lahiboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真正草莓的根本就是政府官員</span><span class="push-right">346F 07/16 20:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MKSIN/push?y=14" target="_blank">MKSIN</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:賺一年抵掉台灣3.4年 想想政府到底他嗎在銃殺小幹</span><span class="push-right">347F 07/16 20:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WhiteMage/push?y=14" target="_blank">WhiteMage</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說真的,人家回台前若錢有在存 回台還是能爽爽過</span><span class="push-right">348F 07/16 20:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WhiteMage/push?y=14" target="_blank">WhiteMage</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:用那筆錢看要開小店,買小套房出租都勝過看人臉色</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goshfju/push?y=14" target="_blank">goshfju</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那就別回來阿,不過會高調說這種話的大部分會回來</span><span class="push-right">350F 07/16 20:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jakalG/push?y=14" target="_blank">jakalG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很中肯 一堆奴隸人腦袋不知道裝什麼 還在支持垃圾政府</span><span class="push-right">351F 07/16 21:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Godss/push?y=14" target="_blank">Godss</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">352F 07/16 22:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Page122/push?y=14" target="_blank">Page122</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:恩恩 大家的奴工教育都學的不錯喔 感到欣慰!</span><span class="push-right">353F 07/16 22:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hhgot/push?y=14" target="_blank">hhgot</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:澳洲就是田僑仔啊,光還沒開發資源夠吃幾百年了</span><span class="push-right">354F 07/16 22:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hap0914/push?y=14" target="_blank">hap0914</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:下輩子真的不想當亞洲人,各種悲哀</span><span class="push-right">355F 07/16 22:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/otom/push?y=14" target="_blank">otom</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:錢到哪裡去了-->拿去給退休軍公教了…</span><span class="push-right">356F 07/16 22:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MacOSX10/push?y=14" target="_blank">MacOSX10</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:然後鬼島奴隸銀行會痛批年輕人拜金心態</span><span class="push-right">357F 07/16 22:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jiunliege/push?y=14" target="_blank">jiunliege</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯啊 噓的在眼紅嘛</span><span class="push-right">358F 07/16 22:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luming/push?y=14" target="_blank">luming</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣老闆︰沒競爭力</span><span class="push-right">359F 07/16 23:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/flameteru/push?y=14" target="_blank">flameteru</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:但現在出國打工聽說中間仲介抽成很多</span><span class="push-right">360F 07/16 23:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/debaucher/push?y=14" target="_blank">debaucher</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆噓的是在xDDD 眼紅悲憤? 去領500吧</span><span class="push-right">361F 07/16 23:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ph07/push?y=14" target="_blank">ph07</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在澳洲工作一周五天、朝九晚五準時下班,『一個星期就有22K』</span><span class="push-right">362F 07/16 23:06</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ph07/push?y=14" target="_blank">ph07</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 在澳洲工作一周五天、朝九晚五準時下班</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/scott90213/push?y=14" target="_blank">scott90213</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:如果台灣自然資源豐富 薪水也會很高的</span><span class="push-right">364F 07/16 23:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iceroy/push?y=14" target="_blank">iceroy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:完蛋了你.說真話會被馬腦肉搜出來.隔天就看到你小時尿床照</span><span class="push-right">365F 07/16 23:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nuksparkler/push?y=14" target="_blank">nuksparkler</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這就是現況 如果人力不摳下來 公司怎麼賺錢(帳面)</span><span class="push-right">366F 07/16 23:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DRIariel/push?y=14" target="_blank">DRIariel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:2012的舊聞還能符合現況 鬼島陷入原地踏步的鬼打強惹</span><span class="push-right">367F 07/16 23:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/berryc/push?y=14" target="_blank">berryc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慣老闆怕領22K的都跑光 當然會怕~</span><span class="push-right">368F 07/16 23:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Faoitohins/push?y=14" target="_blank">Faoitohins</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:他很中肯…</span><span class="push-right">369F 07/16 23:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Baumgartner/push?y=14" target="_blank">Baumgartner</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:澳洲有土地 有礦產 這樣直接比不公平吧</span><span class="push-right">370F 07/16 23:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/laechan/push?y=14" target="_blank">laechan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:典型台灣人酸葡萄心理言論又出現啦</span><span class="push-right">371F 07/16 23:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tonys1126/push?y=14" target="_blank">tonys1126</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很中肯</span><span class="push-right">372F 07/16 23:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/happyalex/push?y=14" target="_blank">happyalex</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯!好像有資方打手在酸酸</span><span class="push-right">373F 07/16 23:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PolinHuang/push?y=14" target="_blank">PolinHuang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:DR大說的對欸...2012的文到現在都還切中現況..</span><span class="push-right">374F 07/16 23:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MHGau/push?y=14" target="_blank">MHGau</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">375F 07/16 23:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tony93188/push?y=14" target="_blank">Tony93188</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說得蠻有道理的...</span><span class="push-right">376F 07/16 23:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/krishuang/push?y=14" target="_blank">krishuang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:趕快找個CCR脫離酸奴鬼島</span><span class="push-right">377F 07/16 23:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsyuhe/push?y=14" target="_blank">hsyuhe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鬼島就是鬼島</span><span class="push-right">378F 07/16 23:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ki84/push?y=14" target="_blank">ki84</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣人奴性很重…被洗腦洗得很徹底~還說感恩呢!</span><span class="push-right">379F 07/17 00:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kidd135/push?y=14" target="_blank">kidd135</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:回台只能領22k,不檢討自己卻很會檢討別人</span><span class="push-right">380F 07/17 00:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/meowmeowgo/push?y=14" target="_blank">meowmeowgo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:國民黨不倒</span><span class="push-right">381F 07/17 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shadowpower/push?y=14" target="_blank">shadowpower</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文有病</span><span class="push-right">382F 07/17 00:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/t1329kimo/push?y=14" target="_blank">t1329kimo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣也有新人一週22k不用加班的工作 魯蛇做不起而已</span><span class="push-right">383F 07/17 01:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/clhfly/push?y=14" target="_blank">clhfly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很多國家退休年齡都往後延了</span><span class="push-right">384F 07/17 01:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Binsa/push?y=14" target="_blank">Binsa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸民們被壓榨還要數落別人自我安慰</span><span class="push-right">385F 07/17 01:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hap0914/push?y=14" target="_blank">hap0914</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:新加坡是有地有地有礦喔</span><span class="push-right">386F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h73o1012/push?y=14" target="_blank">h73o1012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹,想搬到澳洲拓荒了,,,</span><span class="push-right">387F 07/17 01:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chinglino3o/push?y=14" target="_blank">chinglino3o</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有能力當然要出去阿 誰想留在這個鬼地方…</span><span class="push-right">388F 07/17 01:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acergame5/push?y=14" target="_blank">acergame5</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這一定是鄉民阿XD</span><span class="push-right">389F 07/17 02:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BlackBass/push?y=14" target="_blank">BlackBass</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:國民黨不倒 台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">390F 07/17 02:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/icexfox/push?y=14" target="_blank">icexfox</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我朋友真的就在澳洲不回來了=.=</span><span class="push-right">391F 07/17 04:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rm76/push?y=14" target="_blank">rm76</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:那些酸人家只能22K的人又領多少?一樣的工作在國外又該領多少?</span><span class="push-right">392F 07/17 04:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MrZipper/push?y=14" target="_blank">MrZipper</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推..</span><span class="push-right">393F 07/17 05:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/walnut/push?y=14" target="_blank">walnut</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣會變這樣 上面的奴性酸民都推了一把 還好林北在國外爽</span><span class="push-right">394F 07/17 05:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mark32504/push?y=14" target="_blank">mark32504</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇應該變成政府公告 讓台灣老闆知道還有哪些酸奴可以</span><span class="push-right">395F 07/17 05:29</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mark32504/push?y=14" target="_blank">mark32504</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以利用</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hamanda/push?y=14" target="_blank">hamanda</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸的人應該不是奴性重啦!是黨工..如果年輕人都拼命跑出去</span><span class="push-right">397F 07/17 05:43</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hamanda/push?y=14" target="_blank">hamanda</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:慣老闆沒有奴工用,權貴階層沒有奴隸伺候,那怎麼行?</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hamanda/push?y=14" target="_blank">hamanda</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可是要當黨工,沒有很重的奴性,也很難稱職..</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/glion/push?y=14" target="_blank">glion</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:外勞輸出國是必然的未來,其實他說得政府也沒辦法回應</span><span class="push-right">400F 07/17 05:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a3187as/push?y=14" target="_blank">a3187as</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一直抱怨還不是不能移民,可憐喔~好險我在美國</span><span class="push-right">401F 07/17 05:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tggbtggb/push?y=14" target="_blank">tggbtggb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真多人崩潰XD</span><span class="push-right">402F 07/17 07:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rock0747/push?y=14" target="_blank">rock0747</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:能逃離鬼島,真的不要再回來了,看推文一堆奴性不改= =</span><span class="push-right">403F 07/17 08:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/minagoroshi/push?y=14" target="_blank">minagoroshi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:見不得別人好又不努力的就只能在這酸了,超可憐的</span><span class="push-right">404F 07/17 08:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/antiSOC/push?y=14" target="_blank">antiSOC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:loser就是自己在泥沼裡 看見別跳出去 就要把他拉回來XDDD</span><span class="push-right">405F 07/17 09:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tomscott/push?y=14" target="_blank">tomscott</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:戰力滿點</span><span class="push-right">406F 07/17 09:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ct722a/push?y=14" target="_blank">ct722a</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:。</span><span class="push-right">407F 07/17 09:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/snsdakb48/push?y=14" target="_blank">snsdakb48</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸民奴性超重XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">408F 07/17 09:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gtayu/push?y=14" target="_blank">gtayu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:其實很中肯</span><span class="push-right">409F 07/17 09:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yannjiunlin/push?y=14" target="_blank">yannjiunlin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:40歲才開始生活有多好~且澳是要你去打工旅遊~花非存錢</span><span class="push-right">410F 07/17 09:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zzodkdllich/push?y=14" target="_blank">zzodkdllich</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">411F 07/17 09:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/anuser/push?y=14" target="_blank">anuser</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講實話 酸民崩潰</span><span class="push-right">412F 07/17 09:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lovetech/push?y=14" target="_blank">Lovetech</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看推文就知 台灣光勞工戰完勞工就有小確幸 哪會反抗老闆</span><span class="push-right">413F 07/17 09:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mars1985/push?y=14" target="_blank">mars1985</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣一堆人就奴啊</span><span class="push-right">414F 07/17 10:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamhazard/push?y=14" target="_blank">iamhazard</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推</span><span class="push-right">415F 07/17 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sakula678/push?y=14" target="_blank">sakula678</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:到澳洲當台勞一個月才22K , 你還真滿足啊...</span><span class="push-right">416F 07/17 10:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cbate/push?y=14" target="_blank">cbate</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有種永遠不要回台灣啊!</span><span class="push-right">417F 07/17 10:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Handway/push?y=14" target="_blank">Handway</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講的話中肯又有水準</span><span class="push-right">418F 07/17 10:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WalkFish/push?y=14" target="_blank">WalkFish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一堆人自以為沒去過澳洲,老闆就會對你比較好</span><span class="push-right">419F 07/17 10:32</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WalkFish/push?y=14" target="_blank">WalkFish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:人家就算回台,也比你多賺很多</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h3178378/push?y=14" target="_blank">h3178378</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高雄大學…</span><span class="push-right">421F 07/17 10:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ottokang/push?y=14" target="_blank">ottokang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯的鬼,澳洲稅跟台灣稅能比嗎?</span><span class="push-right">422F 07/17 10:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kerbi/push?y=14" target="_blank">kerbi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:講得很好 但時間到了還是得回來 GG</span><span class="push-right">423F 07/17 10:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poiu1234/push?y=14" target="_blank">poiu1234</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:廢話滿篇 卻毫無建樹 只會抱怨 那門行去從政改善阿 草莓</span><span class="push-right">424F 07/17 11:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pkmu8426/push?y=14" target="_blank">pkmu8426</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:鬼島鬼奴才 看完急著怒噓</span><span class="push-right">425F 07/17 11:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/green001/push?y=14" target="_blank">green001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:QQ</span><span class="push-right">426F 07/17 11:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lucef/push?y=14" target="_blank">lucef</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯,慣老闆還說台勞沒競爭力所以只配領低薪</span><span class="push-right">427F 07/17 11:25</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">YOPOYOPO</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Salary</span> 07/17 11:41</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bill6613/push?y=14" target="_blank">bill6613</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你有本事就不要回來</span><span class="push-right">428F 07/17 11:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/drunker520/push?y=14" target="_blank">drunker520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:價格由市場決定,支持各位到國外過有尊嚴的日子</span><span class="push-right">429F 07/17 12:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yayakaka</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yayakaka/push?y=14" target="_blank">yayakaka</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:爛兵683T人渣賤狗張順瑋都借錢去國外嫖妓</span><span class="push-right">430F 07/17 12:14</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hope1989/push?y=14" target="_blank">hope1989</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:比你早好幾年賺到一百萬 就比你厲害了</span><span class="push-right">431F 07/17 12:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fialin/push?y=14" target="_blank">fialin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只敢待在台灣的酸臭宅,人家要去哪賺錢,乾你屁事</span><span class="push-right">432F 07/17 12:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kr507/push?y=14" target="_blank">kr507</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒辦法 台灣是中國人統治 還有689鄉愿 領22K要偷笑了</span><span class="push-right">433F 07/17 12:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joyo21114s/push?y=14" target="_blank">joyo21114s</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在澳洲挖牛糞拿88k 回來台灣一無所有</span><span class="push-right">434F 07/17 13:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gn159263/push?y=14" target="_blank">gn159263</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯文,好多人崩潰XDD</span><span class="push-right">435F 07/17 13:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xman262/push?y=14" target="_blank">xman262</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:當台勞關你屌事 幹</span><span class="push-right">436F 07/17 13:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thumbe70367/push?y=14" target="_blank">thumbe70367</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯是中肯啊,年齡到了再回臺灣履歷有哪些?</span><span class="push-right">437F 07/17 13:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coolmanchen/push?y=14" target="_blank">coolmanchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:明明內文講的很中肯,卻還是有一群眼紅酸民只會酸有種</span><span class="push-right">438F 07/17 13:35</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coolmanchen/push?y=14" target="_blank">coolmanchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:別回來,明明全文的用意是希望政府振作好好做事,難道</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coolmanchen/push?y=14" target="_blank">coolmanchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:像你們這樣蓋上眼睛閉上嘴只顧自己不敢批評政府,政府</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coolmanchen/push?y=14" target="_blank">coolmanchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:就會自己覺醒嗎?比起這些打工留學的學生,我更希望你</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coolmanchen/push?y=14" target="_blank">coolmanchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:們這些自私自利的人能夠消失!</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/babylon297/push?y=14" target="_blank">babylon297</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:別國會來台灣當外勞就是因為他們政府爛,酸勞工真的好笑</span><span class="push-right">443F 07/17 13:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zz59743p6/push?y=14" target="_blank">zz59743p6</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:樓上中肯</span><span class="push-right">444F 07/17 13:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeff24/push?y=14" target="_blank">jeff24</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說的好啊,爛台灣自己救自己去澳洲工作生活才有救,給推!</span><span class="push-right">445F 07/17 14:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeffiegygy/push?y=14" target="_blank">jeffiegygy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好文!</span><span class="push-right">446F 07/17 14:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/theeht/push?y=14" target="_blank">theeht</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只能說噓這篇文章的的那些人 完全就是台灣淪陷的幫凶</span><span class="push-right">447F 07/17 14:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tim19871026/push?y=14" target="_blank">tim19871026</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯!</span><span class="push-right">448F 07/17 14:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/b187/push?y=14" target="_blank">b187</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推文中可看見很多奴性很重的,是從帝愛出來的嗎</span><span class="push-right">449F 07/17 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ioutiot4d/push?y=14" target="_blank">ioutiot4d</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台灣政府都不重視阿 = =</span><span class="push-right">450F 07/17 15:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cv86092/push?y=14" target="_blank">cv86092</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:可以到老都週薪22K不反對啊,但問題就是不行</span><span class="push-right">451F 07/17 15:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/seansho/push?y=14" target="_blank">seansho</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有人崩潰囉</span><span class="push-right">452F 07/17 16:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MysteryXD/push?y=14" target="_blank">MysteryXD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我也不懂那些人在崩潰什麼....自己領22K想找伴取暖?</span><span class="push-right">453F 07/17 16:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ahbean/push?y=14" target="_blank">ahbean</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:在鬼島工作=照顧父母?可悲的是沒好有那時間精神</span><span class="push-right">454F 07/17 17:14</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">aa813456</span><span style="color:#808000">:別回來了!記得先去拿張澳洲護照。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">alliao</span><span style="color:#808000">:良禽擇木而棲 就這樣。自己的人生自己拼。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yuchan525</span><span style="color:#808000">:叫人家別回來的到底存的是什麼心態啊...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">luck1225</span><span style="color:#808000">:酸回一堆</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kkentlai</span><span style="color:#808000">:應該是這樣,出國賺第一桶金,存夠本之後,回來台灣打工實習一陣子,接著做生意自己當老闆,可能賣吃的,周遭有這樣打算的大學生這麼說。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sdf434</span><span style="color:#808000">:台妹到澳洲很多都被老外吃或賣淫= = 靠北老外粉絲團 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/kaobeilaowai" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/kaobeilaowai</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">rocklazio</span><span style="color:#808000">:能去國外看看很好 , 比不敢去只會酸的強千百倍 , 就算存不到錢 , 也能有世界觀</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteyq12</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果~大家都有一筆錢可以移民...台灣人肯定便很少...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteyq12</span><span style="color:#808000">:老實說他可能真的不想回來~但簽證到期不得不回來...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteyq12</span><span style="color:#808000">:別的地方工作是為了讓自己過得更好,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteyq12</span><span style="color:#808000">:你還願意回工作是為了讓自己回下去的地方麻!?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bearbigbig</span><span style="color:#808000">:舉實例最準,本人弟弟,私立大學畢業,在台灣幾乎沒做過什們累積性的職業,上班幾乎存不到什們錢。後來看破,因為第一次去澳洲,沒門路,找了仲介介紹去澳洲的工作。初期真做農場,真的賺不到什們錢,所謂仲介也只不過是介紹2次工作給你,後來認識比較多背包客,脫離仲介,自己去找工作,才開始有存到錢。第二年,他還是要回去,因為辛苦,還是很好賺。肉場給的薪資,是照工作項目發,你做A的工作就給A的薪水,不會像台灣應徵你進來,發A工作的薪資,卻常常叫你去頂B、C、D工作。肉場很重安全和工作傷害,當你因工作受傷絕對會叫你休息,薪資照發,不然就是換你去做一些其它工作避免職業傷害。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cynh</span><span style="color:#808000">:有能力的人會不做100K的工作</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cynh</span><span style="color:#808000">:跑去做22K的工作嗎??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cynh</span><span style="color:#808000">:我家隔壁的哥哥</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cynh</span><span style="color:#808000">:高中畢業 會電繪薪水就40K以上了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cynh</span><span style="color:#808000">:每天中午還回家吃飯</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">show54355</span><span style="color:#808000">:台妹喜歡老外 <a href="http://minus.com/i/0VP9Mb1eYhKk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://minus.com/i/0VP9Mb1eYhKk</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問洗盤子需要什麼專業嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問採香吉士需要什麼專業嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果一個禮拜可以220K</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:我會考慮去</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:不然還是洗洗睡吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:30睡回來跟老闆說我會採香吉士</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim112266</span><span style="color:#808000">:你敢信?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aidssolo8</span><span style="color:#808000">:↑↑↑↑</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aidssolo8</span><span style="color:#808000">:30睡回來???</span>
讚 amdlock:一堆沒勇氣沒能力出去的在這邊噓是問號?
→ <span style="color:#FF0">eddiee</span><span style="color:#808000">:領那麼多,那你一輩子就去殺豬就好了.一個月八到十萬我也領的到,有甚麼了不起的?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justwuxiang</span><span style="color:#808000">:澳洲存錢回來買股票啊 就算有年齡限制也不一定要把自己局限在澳洲打工賺錢這種觀念</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justwuxiang</span><span style="color:#808000">:反觀台灣 你要花多久才能存到本金...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:台勞正常化.過去說台人出國當台勞是笑話.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在是人人高調正常的"社會現象".</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那垃圾的目的達到了~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bearbigbig</span><span style="color:#808000">:在台灣累積工作經驗的投資報酬率,還不如先賺錢,放進自己口袋來的踏實。台灣薪水高低跟你專業沒什關係,跟你工作的職務有關。專業累積到一定程度,發現在公司沒發展和薪資被綁得死死的,除了跳槽、自立門戶創業,剩下就是在公司養老等死。去國外打工不就是為了賺錢和旅遊,到底要累積什們專業..。在台灣零經驗和有經驗的差別,公司都愛用有經驗,但薪水你不去談,永遠都是照公司規定,當你去談薪水,就保證很難拿到這份工作。真正又專業技術的工作,就不要拿來跟國外打工族比,如果在台灣找的到這種工,又可以談薪水的工作,代表自己能力很夠,又何必跑到國外。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sustain</span><span style="color:#808000">:好險我家開工廠 爽爽賺!!!而且住在台灣真爽 浪費林老母的錢讀大學 不孝子~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aye881103</span><span style="color:#808000">:拜託不要累積一堆病回來看病拿藥弄牙齒呀 健保你沒有貢獻..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:同樣的基本勞動環境 國外卻比較重視職業安全 是誰的問題?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:不管哪個國家的社會運作 如果都沒有基層勞力 最好管理層是發展的起來</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣的問題 就是把基層勞力的辛苦成果視作理所當然 而不去處理這些基層的福利和工作環境問題 當提出批評 又說這些人能力不足 競爭力不足</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:最好是這些維持基本需求的東西會憑空產出啦 看不起基層勞力的 自己先去做</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:這些工作看看 不在其位不知其事 等真正了解過基層的辛苦 再來廢話 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">: </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sustain</span><span style="color:#808000">:在父母那個年代 跟現在比 一路以來 不是都慢慢再改變嗎? 職業安全這個問題 以前有這種東西嗎? 呵呵 當過兵也懂得 福利是自己爭取來的!! 我看過好多超會講大道理.懂很多事情的人 以為他很強 問他在做什麼 他:ㄟ~~~現在沒頭路 沒多久聽到 去給別人潑油漆收錢 錢沒收到還被關 哈哈 台灣太多這種強人了!! 沒出息的才會一堆廢話 廢話一堆 還不是要再那裡 泡飲料給客人 哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:在父母那個年代. 跟現在比. 真的甚麼都改變了.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:父母那個年代都說土八路沒甚麼小路用.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:都是沒出息的土匪.又不是中產階級.更不是地主財閥.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:不過就是廣大沒出息的魯蛇群體.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:奇怪的是.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那垃圾竟然被這群沒出息的土匪趕出支那四處流亡.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣人應該學習土八路的好樣.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">abcabc</span><span style="color:#808000">:才不用看台支垃圾在那裏唱秋~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aidssolo8</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有起手式『我家開工廠』的八卦?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nenboi2</span><span style="color:#808000">:這是2012年的舊文章 大家現在才在酸尛</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nage530111</span><span style="color:#808000">:一堆腦x酸酸~繼續活在自己的台灣世界吧!台灣人真可愛真好欺負~被政府洗腦徹底~所以甘願當冤大頭!所以台灣永遠都不會進步ZZZ</span>
讚 king810825:在講下去都想哭了...這是什麼政府
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sustain</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實台灣有再進步的 只不過自己沒再進步 好像全世界都沒進步一樣!! 說中了吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sustain</span><span style="color:#808000">:能耐就到那個水準而已 就乖乖過生活就好 老想著幹大事 小事都幹不了了!!! 叫哩小漢時好好讀書 愛七桃吼!! 不充實自己 老是把希望寄託在老闆身上 加一點薪一切都感覺是理所應當的! 我很欣賞那些努力的年輕人 還有比窮人還努力的富二代 最喜歡看到窮人愛作祟 老是想東想西 吹噓自己多強 口袋卻空空那種人 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ra21844</span><span style="color:#808000">:tim112266</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ra21844</span><span style="color:#808000">:就是缺錢才出國賺錢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ra21844</span><span style="color:#808000">:人家就算只是打零工,好歹也是一技之長,更何況跨出舒適圈增廣視野</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ra21844</span><span style="color:#808000">:你拿爸爸的錢吃飽飽在那邊酸什麼</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">onight</span><span style="color:#808000">:他講得很好啊 上班打卡制 下班責任制</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">onight</span><span style="color:#808000">:在台灣工作真的很悲哀喔~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">onight</span><span style="color:#808000">:來鄉下舊知道了,週休二日準時下班根本是奢侈的事</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">onight</span><span style="color:#808000">:一堆月修四天 六天 12H 11H 10H </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">escapeTW</span><span style="color:#808000">:但你不能不否認,人才外流的事實。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">escapeTW</span><span style="color:#808000">:我認識有人脈關係出國的人,都只打算在台灣做兩、三年賺經驗就要走了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">escapeTW</span><span style="color:#808000">:這也是為什麼有些醫院的前輩經驗只有兩年......</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">escapeTW</span><span style="color:#808000">:學姊也說;雖然薪水比較高一些,但壓力真的很大,被病人告的話有排到班的從上到下都要出庭,有些還是病人自己的問題跟不可抗力的原因</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jsj122</span><span style="color:#808000">:大陸很多地方收入早超過22k了,你們彎彎還在井裏</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">titletaxi</span><span style="color:#808000">:有條件有機會還是要多去出國趁年經多賺點錢存錢保障自己以後的生活</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hahanbusy</span><span style="color:#808000">:當初沒這麼聰明去國外打工 雖然在台灣有30K 現在想起..她媽的我怎沒想到要去國外打工 真是蠢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BB8451</span><span style="color:#808000">:但還是有一些奴性重的人 繼續舔慣老闆的老二</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BB8451</span><span style="color:#808000">:舔慣老闆的老二就算了 還覺得自己很棒</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BB8451</span><span style="color:#808000">:還嗆別人草莓 為什麼不舔慣老闆的老二</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lancelot0201</span><span style="color:#808000">:腦筋有問題,能在澳洲賺多少跟你要不要回來沒關係,是跟你的"簽證到期了沒"有關係,不管你能賺幾K,台灣政府都沒去求你回來,是澳洲政府時間到了要趕你回去.你這麼行,就幹到澳洲政府給你護照求你留下吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ton00034</span><span style="color:#808000">:自己能吃飽再顧別人吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ckg12345</span><span style="color:#808000">:高報酬率也是因為高消耗率..它們那邊的東西都不便宜..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ckg12345</span><span style="color:#808000">:你自己可以過爽爽的? 是三餐吃泡麵嗎? 還是土司和白開水?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ckg12345</span><span style="color:#808000">:什麼叫儲畜? 是能存下來的錢.. 而不是能讓你花光的錢..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qaz20498p</span><span style="color:#808000">:他說得沒錯阿台灣政府沒作為 只會說年輕人草莓 只是在澳洲也沒他說得那麼好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qaz20498p</span><span style="color:#808000">:三餐都要自己來才會存錢不然光吃外面就準備喝西北風了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">huzc0606</span><span style="color:#808000">:認真做事的官員都被鬥臭抹黑,台灣當然越來越差~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為? ....因為台灣的老闆都是這樣賺爆肝血汗錢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:假借服務業為由,就可超時大賺特賺勞工錢,滿街都是資方的豪車豪宅</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:就是咱門的血汗錢,也是這些該死的民代與官僚的官商勾結下的暴利</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">GG119</span><span style="color:#808000">:就算出國洗碗一年回來存款還是屌打大部分的22k啦</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">macotalk</span><span style="color:#808000">:重點不是22K是你的價值在那...單純為錢就不用再回來了,回來也是米虫</span></div></pre>
bake088
[打屁] 解出一堆亂碼檔設置代碼頁
http://disp.cc/b/25-7S0X
2014-07-07T08:41:54+08:00
2014-07-09T07:10:09+08:00
之前有提供是代碼頁設置的方法 現在反過來救以前解出來的一堆亂碼檔也有效!!!
我竟然今天才發現!! 讓我分享一下我的解法吧~
解出一堆亂碼檔時我一開始是用covertz去轉換http://ppt.cc/onuT
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x450)]
但是有缺點 大檔裡面有時後會出現編碼不一樣的 所以檔案在轉換之後是解不回來的
(昨天收拾了出現了↑)
而且不能保證一定不會手殘..(那種是救不回的)
今天是用右鍵傳送到zipped資料夾/=資料夾名字後直接改.zip
然後用修改過代碼頁Code page 的壓縮軟體BandiZip/Haozip 圖那種是GB18030
再去解壓縮變成unicode簡 然後才用convertz轉換 就可以避免這種手殘情況了!分享~
提供一下簡中文件簡轉繁字型 我用作預覽 字雖然不好看
但是十年內應該不會再有別種和他一樣強大的字體了
FZZhongDengXian-Z07T.ttf
firefox設定可參考 (我都只拿他來看txt) 對應到簡中時字型選他
http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/912bc4c7gw1ecdg0 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> bake088 (test.brd@disp.cc)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [打屁] 解出一堆亂碼檔設置代碼頁<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Jul 7 08:41:54 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
之前有提供是代碼頁設置的方法 現在反過來救以前解出來的一堆亂碼檔也有效!!!
我竟然今天才發現!! 讓我分享一下我的解法吧~
解出一堆亂碼檔時我一開始是用covertz去轉換<a href="http://ppt.cc/onuT" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/onuT</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ppt.cc/onuT" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x450)]
<div class="img" data-ori_w="400" data-ori_h="225" style="width:400px;height:225px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/onuT@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
但是有缺點 大檔裡面有時後會出現編碼不一樣的 所以檔案在轉換之後是解不回來的
(昨天收拾了出現了↑)
而且不能保證一定不會手殘..(那種是救不回的)
今天是用右鍵傳送到zipped資料夾/=資料夾名字後直接改.zip
然後用修改過代碼頁Code page 的壓縮軟體BandiZip/Haozip 圖那種是GB18030
<div class="combine-lines">再去解壓縮變成unicode簡 然後才用convertz轉換 就可以避免這種手殘情況了!分享~
提供一下簡中文件簡轉繁字型 我用作預覽 字雖然不好看</div>
但是十年內應該不會再有別種和他一樣強大的字體了
FZZhongDengXian-Z07T.ttf
firefox設定可參考 (我都只拿他來看txt) 對應到簡中時字型選他
<a href="http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/912bc4c7gw1ecdg07gjgpj20mh0sk7ak.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/912bc4c7gw1ecdg07gjgpj20mh0sk7ak.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="809" data-ori_h="1028" style="width:809px;height:1028px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/0/sinaimg_912bc4c7gw1ecdg07gjgpj20mh0sk7ak.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
手機看簡中壓縮檔 自動調整編碼
ZArchiver - Google Play Android 應用程式
手機看簡體txt 不綁書城 不查地址 不看照相機
小說閱讀器by WeakApp (設定)/ Zo Reader電子書閲讀器by Raymond Ho (點標題)
電腦要轉換txt
TextPro (可批次不用像convertz一個個轉 不建議會出現亂碼)
以上都是對簡體txt的應對方案參考 希望對你有幫助~
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[推薦] Android一鍵root軟體與M8 新s off方法
http://disp.cc/b/25-7QHF
2014-06-29T21:39:10+08:00
2014-07-01T12:35:04+08:00
如標題,我今天要介紹適合android手機的一鍵root與M8的s-off 新方法
首先呢,先介紹一鍵root : towelroot(網址:towelroot.com)
******1.由於此root方式是利用android kernel的漏洞達成root的效果,因此有一定的風險,使用前請先多加衡量
******2.htc 確定不適用(除非unlock,那就直接刷recovery刷就好啦= =
******3.我承認我不知道怎麼幫字上色所以辛苦你們的眼睛了@@
步驟:
1.進入towelroot.com點紅色的大大的"入",下載一個不到1Mb的apk下來安裝(android會主動提醒你,這個apk有安全上的疑慮,因此請自行斟酌是否要安裝)
2.安裝完成後打開他,點let it rain的按鈕,然後就root成功啦xDD(理論上可以支援2014/6/3之前出廠的android產品)
3.到play商店安裝supersu,收工ˊˇˋ
(註 :1. 各種root神器在hTㄈ面前都得敬重三分啊ˊˋ
2. 改機有一定風險會造成手機損壞
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Android </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> thisisaname (這是一個名字)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [推薦] Android一鍵root軟體與M8 新s off方法<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Jun 29 21:39:10 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
如標題,我今天要介紹適合android手機的一鍵root與M8的s-off 新方法
首先呢,先介紹一鍵root : towelroot(網址:towelroot.com)
******1.由於此root方式是利用android kernel的漏洞達成root的效果,因此有一定的風險,使用前請先多加衡量
******2.htc 確定不適用(除非unlock,那就直接刷recovery刷就好啦= =
******3.我承認我不知道怎麼幫字上色所以辛苦你們的眼睛了@@
步驟:
1.進入towelroot.com點紅色的大大的"入",下載一個不到1Mb的apk下來安裝(android會主動提醒你,這個apk有安全上的疑慮,因此請自行斟酌是否要安裝)
2.安裝完成後打開他,點let it rain的按鈕,然後就root成功啦xDD(理論上可以支援2014/6/3之前出廠的android產品)
3.到play商店安裝supersu,收工ˊˇˋ
(註 :1. 各種root神器在hTㄈ面前都得敬重三分啊ˊˋ
2. 改機有一定風險會造成手機損壞
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接著介紹sunshine s-off
sunshine s-off是最近被放出來,針對one M8,one remix的s-off軟體,證明十分有效但缺點是需要25塊美金做為解鎖費用
廢話不多說,以下來介紹這款s-off神器
******注意,此s-off依然需要root權限(網站上說支援上面那個towelroot 1.1版,不過依據實際測試......@@
1. 首先到"theroot.ninja"下載一個25.5mb的sunshine-lastest.apk(你沒看錯)
2.安裝完成後點開,continue,okay,軟體就會開始檢測你的手機是否適合sunshine s-off
********此時不要動手機,除了授權sunshine的root權限以外
3.經過一會兒的等待會跳出paypal的畫面要求付款繳錢買license,付款成功後程序會再做一次的檢查然後重新開機
4.自動重新開機後,打開sunshine,點continue開始s-off,此時不要動手機,手機會突然自動暗掉
5.(建議等個幾秒後)按著音量鍵下加電源鍵,就會進入工程模式然後好好的享受美麗的s-off的畫面吧:')
雖然感覺比較危險,但是比起寄給雷大或是狂大還省時間和金錢,想嚐鮮,心臟也夠大顆的可以來試試喔
(16g M8用較舊版本firewater s-off據說就好了,這個方法主要是給32g和用firewater怎麼樣都無法s-off的看官們使用的
順帶一題我正在尋找繞過paypal的方法不過作者好像把s-off的程式碼寫在so庫裡面,我還正在跟ARM組合語言奮鬥中@@需要高手協助......
順便發問一下,我拆開sunshine發現裡面有個叫做"heat"的檔案跟su,busybox放在一起,合理懷疑與這次s-off的漏洞有關,請相關高手協助說明OTZ
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25美金其實算便宜的,拿去外面都至少要1000起跳其實...
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哈哈筆誤,感謝提醒
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[請問] 在大陸上網,限制很多
http://disp.cc/b/25-7QDx
2014-06-29T07:42:41+08:00
2014-07-01T01:03:10+08:00
最近出差到大陸,在這邊上網限制很多
google&gmail完全沒辦法連,請問在大
陸上網有什麼可避開此限制的軟體嗎? ...]]>
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最近出差到大陸,在這邊上網限制很多
google&gmail完全沒辦法連,請問在大
陸上網有什麼可避開此限制的軟體嗎?
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[自製] Flickr 公開照片下載器
http://disp.cc/b/25-7QDw
2014-06-28T21:04:32+08:00
2014-07-01T01:03:08+08:00
軟體名稱:
flickr-download-public.py
軟體資訊:
需要 Python 3.3 或更新版本,舊版沒測試過。
軟體功能:
自動下載指定的 Flickr 公開群組內所有照片。
軟體特色:
好處:不用登入即可下載照片,不必擔心應用程式是否不當利用個人帳號
好處:程式碼很短,不超過 100 行,大家可以自己檢查 code
壞處:不會幫忙設定照片修改日期,如有需要可參考此 script http://ur1.ca/hmgtv
#114031 • Fedora Project Pastebin
Fedora Sticky Notes is a feature-rich, yet lightweight paste utility ...
官方網站:
沒有
下載連結:
http://ur1.ca/hmg99
#114021 • Fedora Project Pastebin
Fedora Sticky Notes is a feature-rich, yet lightweight paste utility ...
推薦原因:
我寫的、免登入、code 很短
誰適合 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> EZsoft </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> lantw44 ([+++++++======>])<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [自製] Flickr 公開照片下載器<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sat Jun 28 21:04:32 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體名稱:</span>
flickr-download-public.py
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體資訊:</span>
需要 Python 3.3 或更新版本,舊版沒測試過。
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體功能:</span>
自動下載指定的 Flickr 公開群組內所有照片。
<span style="color:#00F000">軟體特色:</span>
好處:不用登入即可下載照片,不必擔心應用程式是否不當利用個人帳號
好處:程式碼很短,不超過 100 行,大家可以自己檢查 code
壞處:不會幫忙設定照片修改日期,如有需要可參考此 script <a href="http://ur1.ca/hmgtv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ur1.ca/hmgtv</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ur1.ca/hmgtv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>#114031 • Fedora Project Pastebin</strong></a>
Fedora Sticky Notes is a feature-rich, yet lightweight paste utility ...</div></div>
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<span style="color:#00F000">官方網站:</span>
沒有
<span style="color:#00F000">下載連結:</span>
<a href="http://ur1.ca/hmg99" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ur1.ca/hmg99</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ur1.ca/hmg99" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>#114021 • Fedora Project Pastebin</strong></a>
Fedora Sticky Notes is a feature-rich, yet lightweight paste utility ...</div></div>
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<span style="color:#FFF">推薦原因:</span>
我寫的、免登入、code 很短
<span style="color:#FFF">誰適合用:</span>
喜歡小程式的人
想要下載 Flickr 照片又不想登入的人
<span style="color:#FFF">誰不適合用:</span>
喜歡漂亮界面程式的人
需要下載非公開照片的人
需要下載無法取得原始大小的照片的人
<span style="color:#FFF">使用感想:</span>
<div class="combine-lines">由於 Flickr API 每次回傳的照片順序不一樣,如果群組內有超過 500 張照片,
可能要重複執行多次才會全部下載下來。程式執行時左邊會顯示照片總數,如果
發現下載下來的檔案數量不符,表示還有照片沒下載到。</div>
<span style="color:#FFF">附註:</span>
請先切換到要存放照片的資料夾,再執行程式。
API Key:請向 Flickr 申請非商業用的應用程式 API key
Group ID:網頁上「離開群組」連結 id= 後面的東西
<span style="color:#008000">本著作依據 Creative Commons 姓名標示 授權條款為授權</span>
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