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http://disp.cc/b/Public_Issues
2023-02-15T15:00:09Z
un1684
one boy 違反勞動法令被罰52萬!
http://disp.cc/b/1022-fOls
2023-02-15T14:45:42+08:00
2023-02-15T14:45:42+08:00
最近one boy 衝鋒衣大家應該都不陌生,就是行銷很敢砸錢。
公司叫做卓昱股份有限公司,也有在捷運看板上有成功企業的形象
之前有位網友在DCARD指控ONE BOY 不是人待的地方,但隨後不久被刪文
然後今天有網友也在上面PO出ONE BOY卓昱違反勞基法的紀錄
從裁罰紀錄來看,這間公司不但加班超時/未給加班費,而且是累犯
加上其他違法紀錄,遭罰紀錄破52萬
如果這是自詡國民外套的公司? 太扯了吧
https://www.dcard.tw/f/talk/p/241226968
遭罰的紀錄都有勞動部資訊可以查(非造謠) ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> un1684 (陳其燕麥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> one boy 違反勞動法令被罰52萬!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2023-02-15 Wed. 14:45:42</div><hr color="#008080" />
最近one boy 衝鋒衣大家應該都不陌生,就是行銷很敢砸錢。
公司叫做卓昱股份有限公司,也有在捷運看板上有成功企業的形象
之前有位網友在DCARD指控ONE BOY 不是人待的地方,但隨後不久被刪文
然後今天有網友也在上面PO出ONE BOY卓昱違反勞基法的紀錄
從裁罰紀錄來看,這間公司不但加班超時/未給加班費,而且是累犯
加上其他違法紀錄,遭罰紀錄破52萬
如果這是自詡國民外套的公司? 太扯了吧
<a href="https://www.dcard.tw/f/talk/p/241226968" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.dcard.tw/f/talk/p/241226968</a>
遭罰的紀錄都有勞動部資訊可以查(非造謠)
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<span class="record">※ 作者: un1684 時間: 2023-02-15 14:45:42 (台灣)</span></div></pre>
q1314mld
TOneTrade精準買賣投資市場投資軟件
http://disp.cc/b/1022-fqwI
2022-10-07T22:41:20+08:00
2022-10-07T22:41:20+08:00
TOneTrade精準買賣投資市場投資軟件只要妳選擇的股票杠杆平台是安全合法的,基本上是安全的。市場上有很多客戶,聽到押金就敬而遠之。其實股票杠杆押金的收取並不莫名其妙,但有壹定的存在依據。押金是投資者胚胎的本金,胚胎平台也是在這個本金的基礎上擴大投資者的資金。第二,保證金的作用是承擔交易過程中造成的損失,避免資金不足造成的清算。交易結束後,平台仍將剩余資金返還給胚胎賬戶。雖然整個過程看起來幾乎完美,但每當涉及到資金問題時,我們都應該小心。畢竟,股票杠杆平台上有很多虛擬磁盤。虛擬磁盤和實盤有什麽區別?
1.實盤杠杆使用證券公司的獨立賬戶。提供的賬戶與在證券公司開立的賬戶相同。它需要身份、z實名和視頻。此外,證券公司在填寫信息時也會留下檔案。您可以在證券公司官方網站上下載或登錄同花順
虛擬磁盤通常只能通過他們的鏈接或二維碼下載app,這個app它是由他們的公司自己開發的。我們所有的交易都只顯示在平台上。當市場好的時候,我們跑得最多。開戶只需要壹個手機號碼就可以綁定銀行卡。安全系數很低我不知道在後期找誰跑
2.實盤杠杆壹般是2-6倍。如果太高,就不能進行風險控制。畢竟,它們是我們的幾倍資金 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> q1314mld (dsadsadsa)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> TOneTrade精準買賣投資市場投資軟件<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2022-10-07 Fri. 22:41:20</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="long_string">TOneTrade精準買賣投資市場投資軟件只要妳選擇的股票杠杆平台是安全合法的,基本上是安全的。市場上有很多客戶,聽到押金就敬而遠之。其實股票杠杆押金的收取並不莫名其妙,但有壹定的存在依據。押金是投資者胚胎的本金,胚胎平台也是在這個本金的基礎上擴大投資者的資金。第二,保證金的作用是承擔交易過程中造成的損失,避免資金不足造成的清算。交易結束後,平台仍將剩余資金返還給胚胎賬戶。雖然整個過程看起來幾乎完美,但每當涉及到資金問題時,我們都應該小心。畢竟,股票杠杆平台上有很多虛擬磁盤。虛擬磁盤和實盤有什麽區別?</div>
<div class="long_string">1.實盤杠杆使用證券公司的獨立賬戶。提供的賬戶與在證券公司開立的賬戶相同。它需要身份、z實名和視頻。此外,證券公司在填寫信息時也會留下檔案。您可以在證券公司官方網站上下載或登錄同花順</div>
<div class="long_string">虛擬磁盤通常只能通過他們的鏈接或二維碼下載app,這個app它是由他們的公司自己開發的。我們所有的交易都只顯示在平台上。當市場好的時候,我們跑得最多。開戶只需要壹個手機號碼就可以綁定銀行卡。安全系數很低我不知道在後期找誰跑</div>
<div class="long_string">2.實盤杠杆壹般是2-6倍。如果太高,就不能進行風險控制。畢竟,它們是我們的幾倍資金,也是需要風險控制的虛擬磁盤。壹般來說,杠杆率超過8倍甚至10倍。我們都知道杠杆率越大,風險就越大。只有這樣,當操作失誤時,損失才會更快,損失越快,錢就會好到他們的口袋裏。3.據我所知,實盤杠杆的門檻是2000,因爲每個人最多可以開立3個不同的證券賬戶,因此,這種獨立賬戶是有門檻的</div>
<div class="long_string">虛擬磁盤壹般從100元開始,200元開始,沒有底線,無論如何,沒有成本。現在有壹個騙局,有虛擬磁盤和獨立賬戶,當妳想使用獨立賬戶將提高門檻,或門檻直接是50000,10000,如果妳不想使用這麽多本金,會考慮他們的虛擬磁盤,是抓住反複無常的弱點4,實際磁盤杠杆日利息100%.3-1.除此之間沒有其他費用</div>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: q1314mld 時間: 2022-10-07 22:41:20</span></div></pre>
Long-time
[討論] 新型態詐騙-裝潢蟑螂+黑道..北北基桃.市民集體哀嚎.(無法可管)
http://disp.cc/b/1022-f05u
2022-05-28T14:11:44+08:00
2022-05-28T14:12:56+08:00
市長們誰才是北北基桃的美國隊長~~市民集體哀嚎中!!有家歸不得..「成立專案小組吧」
新型態的詐騙手法(裝潢蟑螂):
網路平台招攬+部分施工(刑事變民事問題)+黑道背景(對被害人施壓.使之不敢投訴)
案例:
甲先生上網路平台(Tasker找師傅)找師傅裝潢新家。拆除裝潢後,靠拖延工程威脅業主
加錢.不然就擺爛…最後合約到期裝潢爛尾還是不會走,他會叫黑道份子出面處理.....
最後還會施壓其它要收尾的工班....被害人真的是救助無門、有家歸不得!!
已經不是個案、有sop且分工明確的詐騙暴力集團了
困境:
報警立案困難:警方多認為是民事糾紛因有部分施工,也無法用165詐騙專線報案
提告:法院案例大多算民事(部分施工的法律漏洞),刑事也需鑑定費數十萬
對於這些慣犯束手無策.........
問題:
1.網路平台是否必需有連帶責任
2.部分施工是否無法成立詐欺罪?(法律漏洞還是法官認定問題?)
3.黑道背景人事出面施壓,是否提報流氓
以下案例是否犯法?
1.搬來桃園就遇到裝潢遇蟑+黑道?桃園人還真的是很恐怖!!!
https://disp.cc/b/214-eVAS
2.[新聞]【房產血淚史 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Long-time (小胡)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [討論]新型態詐騙-裝潢蟑螂+黑道.北北基桃.市民集體哀嚎.(無法可管)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2022-05-28 Sat. 14:11:43</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
市長們誰才是北北基桃的美國隊長~~市民集體哀嚎中!!有家歸不得..「成立專案小組吧」
新型態的詐騙手法(裝潢蟑螂):
網路平台招攬+部分施工(刑事變民事問題)+黑道背景(對被害人施壓.使之不敢投訴)
案例:
甲先生上網路平台(Tasker找師傅)找師傅裝潢新家。拆除裝潢後,靠拖延工程威脅業主
加錢.不然就擺爛…最後合約到期裝潢爛尾還是不會走,他會叫黑道份子出面處理.....
最後還會施壓其它要收尾的工班....被害人真的是救助無門、有家歸不得!!
已經不是個案、有sop且分工明確的詐騙暴力集團了
<div class="img" data-ori_w="1024" data-ori_h="768" style="width:1024px;height:768px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://i4.disp.cc/u/22/a2bbadd1.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>
困境:
報警立案困難:警方多認為是民事糾紛因有部分施工,也無法用165詐騙專線報案
提告:法院案例大多算民事(部分施工的法律漏洞),刑事也需鑑定費數十萬
對於這些慣犯束手無策.........
問題:
1.網路平台是否必需有連帶責任
2.部分施工是否無法成立詐欺罪?(法律漏洞還是法官認定問題?)
3.黑道背景人事出面施壓,是否提報流氓
以下案例是否犯法?
1.搬來桃園就遇到裝潢遇蟑+黑道?桃園人還真的是很恐怖!!!
<a href="https://disp.cc/b/214-eVAS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://disp.cc/b/214-eVAS</a>
2.[新聞]【房產血淚史】上網找裝潢師傅 新婚房變慘房!
<a href="https://disp.cc/b/163-eZCY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://disp.cc/b/163-eZCY</a>
3.裝潢蟑螂亂竄1/鑽法律漏洞詐騙硬凹成糾紛 20受害人聯署自救促修法
<a href="https://www.ctwant.com/article/184862" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.ctwant.com/article/184862</a>
4.裝修暴力肆虐全台灣 年輕購屋族悲鳴|裝潢暴力被害人 張旖宸(有深度討論影片)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWxMhd6NCno" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWxMhd6NCno</a>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Long-time 時間: 2022-05-28 14:11:44 (台灣)</span>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: Long-time 時間: 2022-05-28 14:12:52 (台灣)</span></div></pre>
stick
農地非農用
http://disp.cc/b/1022-eqHm
2021-12-16T19:32:47+08:00
2021-12-16T19:32:47+08:00
請教各位先知 有親戚很得意又臭屁地說 他的農地可以賺四次 第一次 收大量的事業廢棄物約六萬公噸 掩埋 整平後
第二次是出租 第三次是高額設定向銀行貸款 剛好現在土地大漲 第四次是在鋪上一層土蓋上溫室大棚 現在就等好價格
等土地賣了 要去做移民監 有什麼辦法讓他付出代價呢? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> stick (xperia)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 農地非農用<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2021-12-16 Thu. 19:32:47</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
請教各位先知 有親戚很得意又臭屁地說 他的農地可以賺四次 第一次 收大量的事業廢棄物約六萬公噸 掩埋 整平後
第二次是出租 第三次是高額設定向銀行貸款 剛好現在土地大漲 第四次是在鋪上一層土蓋上溫室大棚 現在就等好價格
等土地賣了 要去做移民監 有什麼辦法讓他付出代價呢?
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<span class="record">※ 作者: stick 時間: 2021-12-16 19:32:47 (台灣)</span></div></pre>
ahemking999
經濟學考試 → 共產、分配、印錢、發錢、領錢、領現金鈔票主義 !!民主選舉至高思想 . ..
http://disp.cc/b/1022-dNTS
2021-07-08T18:56:12+08:00
2021-07-08T18:56:12+08:00
經濟學考試 → 共產、分配、印錢、發錢、領錢、領現金鈔票主義 !!民主選舉至高思想 . ..
已對「天空之城 八音盒」發表留言
冷笑話、冷笑話、哈哈 參考 參考 . ..
共產、分配、印錢、發錢、領錢、領現金鈔票主義 !!
共產分配發錢主義、貨幣不會貶值、 繼續共產吧 ... 北京北韓 ...
13億人、人民幣 有多少、人民幣 倒了 貶值太大 13億人啊、人民幣大崩潰囉、美元也大崩潰囉 !!
冷笑話 冷笑話 哈哈 參考 參考 . ..
整天、 印鈔票、 紙幣、 13億人 鈔票 慢慢印阿、人民幣最爛鈔票、跟美元差不多 。
繼續共產阿 北京北韓 貨幣大崩潰吧你們 !! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> ahemking999 (領域的極致 . ..)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 經濟學考試 → 共產、分配、印錢、發錢、領錢、領現金鈔票主義 !!民主選舉至高思想 . ..<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2021-07-08 Thu. 18:56:12</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
經濟學考試 → 共產、分配、印錢、發錢、領錢、領現金鈔票主義 !!民主選舉至高思想 . ..
已對「天空之城 八音盒」發表留言
冷笑話、冷笑話、哈哈 參考 參考 . ..
共產、分配、印錢、發錢、領錢、領現金鈔票主義 !!
共產分配發錢主義、貨幣不會貶值、 繼續共產吧 ... 北京北韓 ...
13億人、人民幣 有多少、人民幣 倒了 貶值太大 13億人啊、人民幣大崩潰囉、美元也大崩潰囉 !!
冷笑話 冷笑話 哈哈 參考 參考 . ..
整天、 印鈔票、 紙幣、 13億人 鈔票 慢慢印阿、人民幣最爛鈔票、跟美元差不多 。
繼續共產阿 北京北韓 貨幣大崩潰吧你們 !!
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<span class="record">※ 作者: ahemking999 時間: 2021-07-08 18:56:12 (台灣)</span></div></pre>
jump542486
台灣運彩不為人知道秘密!是在哈囉?
http://disp.cc/b/1022-co9u
2020-06-01T13:53:21+08:00
2020-06-01T13:55:14+08:00
台灣運彩一直以來都已做公益為出發點!!
但看了她們的營運狀況報表!是在哈囉嗎?
越來越多體育事項停擺!!大家來評評理!!
http://david08570857.pixnet.net/blog/post/12612407-台灣運彩不為人知的秘密? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> jump542486 (拉拉)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 台灣運彩不為人知道秘密!是在哈囉?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2020-06-01 Mon. 13:52:37</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
台灣運彩一直以來都已做公益為出發點!!
但看了她們的營運狀況報表!是在哈囉嗎?
越來越多體育事項停擺!!大家來評評理!!
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anraku
大家好我叫樂樂是日本長崎大學的學生,想請大家幫幫忙
http://disp.cc/b/1022-clxC
2020-05-15T10:11:10+08:00
2020-05-15T10:11:10+08:00
大家好!
我的名字叫樂樂,是日本長崎大學多文化社會學研究科的學生。地理學專攻。我的論文題目是人口遷移和移民。完成我的論文爲了,想對台灣的朋友進行調查問卷。大家幫忙可以嗎?
皆さんこんにちは!
楽です。長崎大学多文化社会学研究科に在学しています。専攻は地理学です。人口移動及び移民を修士論文のテーマとして研究しています。その論文を執筆するために、台湾の方にアンケート調査を実施したいと思います。皆さん、ご協力いただけますでしょうか?(>_<)
下面是調查問卷的鏈接,請大家幫幫忙/(ㄒoㄒ)/~~
以下はアンケート調査のリンクです。
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大家好!
<div class="long_string">我的名字叫樂樂,是日本長崎大學多文化社會學研究科的學生。地理學專攻。我的論文題目是人口遷移和移民。完成我的論文爲了,想對台灣的朋友進行調查問卷。大家幫忙可以嗎?</div>
皆さんこんにちは!
<div class="long_string">楽です。長崎大学多文化社会学研究科に在学しています。専攻は地理学です。人口移動及び移民を修士論文のテーマとして研究しています。その論文を執筆するために、台湾の方にアンケート調査を実施したいと思います。皆さん、ご協力いただけますでしょうか?(>_<)</div>
下面是調查問卷的鏈接,請大家幫幫忙/(ㄒoㄒ)/~~
以下はアンケート調査のリンクです。
↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
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yundong
今日香港明日台灣
http://disp.cc/b/1022-bIxa
2019-09-24T15:57:37+08:00
2019-09-24T15:57:37+08:00
怎麼都沒有這個話題勒 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yundong (文)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 今日香港明日台灣<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2019-09-24 Tue. 15:56:37</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
怎麼都沒有這個話題勒
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">s3190720</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為 在明日台灣之前 有可能沒有中國了</span></div></pre>
HAN1
台灣有能力研發核武器
http://disp.cc/b/1022-bkoV
2019-04-24T18:08:22+08:00
2019-04-24T18:08:22+08:00
今天開始鈾離心,明天就領身份證。
後天不僅有了核武器,還有了四代機、大驅、洲際導彈、核潛艇、三代主戰坦克、聯合國一票否決權。你看這是不是跑步進入世界強國?
三天成為一個世界強國,你看看世界上有哪個地區科研實力能比得過台灣的!沒問題的!快造核武器吧! ...]]>
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今天開始鈾離心,明天就領身份證。
後天不僅有了核武器,還有了四代機、大驅、洲際導彈、核潛艇、三代主戰坦克、聯合國一票否決權。你看這是不是跑步進入世界強國?
三天成為一個世界強國,你看看世界上有哪個地區科研實力能比得過台灣的!沒問題的!快造核武器吧!
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sheis99999
申請低收入戶:在情況特殊的狀況之下,建議改採取跨縣市辦理,這不就是國家進步的潮流嗎
http://disp.cc/b/1022-b2oE
2018-12-22T06:41:48+08:00
2018-12-22T06:41:48+08:00
看看社會救助法第 4 條規定: 本法所稱低收入戶,指經(申請戶籍所在地直轄市、縣(市)主管機關審核認定),符合家庭總收入平均分配全家人口,每人每月在最低生活費以下, 且家庭財產未超過中央、直轄市主管機關公告之當年度一定金額者。
前項所稱最低生活費,由中央、直轄市主管機關參照中央主計機關所公布 當地區最近一年每人可支配所得中位數百分之六十定之,並於新年度計算 出之數額較現行最低生活費變動達百分之五以上時調整之。直轄市主管機 關並應報中央主管機關備查。
前項最低生活費之數額,不得超過同一最近年度中央主計機關所公布全國 每人可支配所得中位數(以下稱所得基準)百分之七十,同時不得低於台 灣省其餘縣(市)可支配所得中位數百分之六十。
第一項所定家庭財產,包括動產及不動產,其金額應分別定之。 第一項申請應檢附之文件、審核認定程序等事項之規定,由直轄市、縣( 市)主管機關定之。 依第一項規定申請時,其申請戶之戶內人口均應實際居住於戶籍所在地之 直轄市、縣(市),且最近一年居住國內超過一百八十三日;其申請時設 籍之期間,不予限制。(第 4-1 條 亦同)
尤其是第4條中的開頭就明文規定 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> sheis99999 (大聲公)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 申請低收入戶:在情況特殊的狀況之下,建議改採取跨縣市辦理,這不就是國家進步的潮流嗎<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-12-22 Sat. 06:42:19</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="long_string">看看社會救助法第 4 條規定: 本法所稱低收入戶,指經(申請戶籍所在地直轄市、縣(市)主管機關審核認定),符合家庭總收入平均分配全家人口,每人每月在最低生活費以下, 且家庭財產未超過中央、直轄市主管機關公告之當年度一定金額者。</div>
<div class="long_string">前項所稱最低生活費,由中央、直轄市主管機關參照中央主計機關所公布 當地區最近一年每人可支配所得中位數百分之六十定之,並於新年度計算 出之數額較現行最低生活費變動達百分之五以上時調整之。直轄市主管機 關並應報中央主管機關備查。</div>
<div class="long_string">前項最低生活費之數額,不得超過同一最近年度中央主計機關所公布全國 每人可支配所得中位數(以下稱所得基準)百分之七十,同時不得低於台 灣省其餘縣(市)可支配所得中位數百分之六十。</div>
<div class="long_string">第一項所定家庭財產,包括動產及不動產,其金額應分別定之。 第一項申請應檢附之文件、審核認定程序等事項之規定,由直轄市、縣( 市)主管機關定之。 依第一項規定申請時,其申請戶之戶內人口均應實際居住於戶籍所在地之 直轄市、縣(市),且最近一年居住國內超過一百八十三日;其申請時設 籍之期間,不予限制。(第 4-1 條 亦同)</div>
<div class="long_string">尤其是第4條中的開頭就明文規定:本法所稱低收入戶,必須經由申請戶籍所在地直轄市、縣(市)主管機關審核認定。這樣訂定出來的法條,是不是顯得麻木不仁即無血無淚? 現在已經是21世紀的國家社會,我認為該修法!</div>
<div class="long_string">如果按照這百年不修改的LKK法條,這是否刻意替台灣老百姓製造出更多不便民的措施與規定. 這就是要告訴2300萬的臺灣人民說:不管您現在身再什麼地方外地工作,當您現在面臨到長期失業、家庭頓時突發變故、雙親中途逝世、或者面臨到被親人棄養;但是您都必須要想盡辦法帶著相關證明文件;並千里迢迢從台北到你所屬的戶籍地申請低收入戶。</div>
問問2300萬的台灣人民: 台灣沒有實施不在籍投票已經是個國際笑話,但是在這21世紀及通訊發達的時代,台灣總不能夠LKK的一輩子停留在70年代吧!
<div class="long_string">社會救助法(第4條)的規定,是否對申請地收入戶的案主太過於嚴苛及處處刁難? 社會救助法(第4條)訂出的規定,是否要等到社會悲劇發生的時候,社會的輿論才在那裡事後諸葛呢? 這一切都來不及了啦! 再來申請低收入戶的案主都已經窮困到這樣的地步,哪裡來的車費到原戶籍地的鄉鎮市公所申請低收入戶?</div>
<div class="long_string">如果我是立法委員: 既然我吃的民脂民膏,我就必須事事都要以民生經濟為主,我絕對會修法! 因為我必須要讓每一位符合申請低收入戶的台灣老百姓,大家都能便民申辦低收入戶,大家說好不好?</div>
<div class="long_string">我要怎麼修法? 我要在社會救助法(第4條)中附上旦書註記;並在旦書中明文規定: 若符合申請低收入戶的案主面臨到在外縣市及雙方當事人均行動不便...等);均可以向目前的縣市政府社會局接受跨縣市[電腦連線]辦理低收入戶並由所在地縣市政府函轉處理(在情況特殊的狀況之下,不排除由社工到宅申請低收入戶。</div>
<div class="long_string">第 10 條 低收入戶得向戶籍所在地直轄市、縣 (市) 主管機關申請生活扶助。 直轄市、縣 (市) 主管機關應自受理前項申請之日起五日內,派員調查申 請人家庭環境、經濟狀況等項目後核定之;必要時,得委由鄉 (鎮、市、 區) 公所為之。申請生活扶助,應檢附之文件、申請調查及核定程序等事項之規定,由直 轄市、縣 (市) 主管機關定之。 前項申請生活扶助經核准者,溯自備齊文件之當月生效。</div>
<div class="long_string">其中第 10 條 明文規定: 低收入戶得向戶籍所在地直轄市、縣 (市) 主管機關申請生活扶助。 直轄市、縣 (市) 主管機關應自受理前項申請之日起五日內,派員調查申 請人家庭環境、經濟狀況等項目後核定之;必要時,得委由鄉 (鎮、市、 區) 公所為之。</div>
尤其是(低收入戶)申請(生活扶助)必須強制回原戶籍地申請,我認為太沒有同理心,這對受助戶實在是太刻求,我認為也該一併修法處理。
<div class="long_string">我認為必須修改成: 低收入戶申請生活扶助,除了得向原戶籍所在地直轄市、縣 (市) 主管機關申請生活扶助,若申請當事人在外縣市及雙方當事人均行動不便...等);可接受跨縣市[電腦連線]辦理低收入戶生活扶助. 辦理主管機關,就交由所在地縣市政府[函轉]處理(在情況特殊的狀況之下,不排除由社工到宅申請低收入戶)。</div>
利益與影響
將來申請低收入戶,在情況特殊的狀況之下:均可以向目前的縣市政府社會局接受跨縣市[電腦連線]辦理低收入戶.
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sheis99999
是不是申請就學貸款的每一位學生:都必須具體的提出連帶保證人?
http://disp.cc/b/1022-b2oi
2018-12-21T23:56:06+08:00
2018-12-21T23:57:15+08:00
那一群沒有任何親人可以做保申請就學貸款的弱勢學生,建議是否修改相關的法律條文? 而申貸銀行及教育部,就不應該對這一群沒有任何親人的弱勢學生處處刁難再刁難,並實質保障這一群沒有任何親人的弱勢學生的(就學權)。若事實足以證明他們確實沒有任何的親人,我要求由國家政府隸屬的(教育部)必須要出面協助;並成為特殊性的替代保人,這才符合世代性的公平正義!
我想問問大家:甚麼叫做就學貸款? 難道所謂的就學貸款,根本就是一般民間消費性的融資貸款嗎? 還是就學貸款的實質目地,根本就是以營利事業為目的,面對沒有任何親人可以作保的弱勢學生,卻丟在遙遠的海角天涯,是這樣嗎?
難道這就是我們的國家政府再次宣告那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生說: 您們想申請就學貸款念書啊,千萬不要妄想,你們當就學貸款是慈善救濟金嗎? 求人不如求己,靠自己想辦法吧.
面對這麼不公不義的問題,難道國家政府卻只能冷淡的回應它們說:這是上天註定好的事情,你們抱怨甚麼呢? 你們這一群沒有任何親人的弱勢學生,有沒有本事去念書,那是您自己的問題;誰叫你生在這樣環境,國家已經放棄你們了.
假使國家政府是用這麼消極的心態面對這樣 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> sheis99999 (大聲公)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 是不是申請就學貸款的每一位學生:都必須具體的提出連帶保證人?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-12-21 Fri. 23:55:39</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="long_string">那一群沒有任何親人可以做保申請就學貸款的弱勢學生,建議是否修改相關的法律條文? 而申貸銀行及教育部,就不應該對這一群沒有任何親人的弱勢學生處處刁難再刁難,並實質保障這一群沒有任何親人的弱勢學生的(就學權)。若事實足以證明他們確實沒有任何的親人,我要求由國家政府隸屬的(教育部)必須要出面協助;並成為特殊性的替代保人,這才符合世代性的公平正義!</div>
<div class="long_string">我想問問大家:甚麼叫做就學貸款? 難道所謂的就學貸款,根本就是一般民間消費性的融資貸款嗎? 還是就學貸款的實質目地,根本就是以營利事業為目的,面對沒有任何親人可以作保的弱勢學生,卻丟在遙遠的海角天涯,是這樣嗎?</div>
<div class="long_string">難道這就是我們的國家政府再次宣告那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生說: 您們想申請就學貸款念書啊,千萬不要妄想,你們當就學貸款是慈善救濟金嗎? 求人不如求己,靠自己想辦法吧.</div>
<div class="long_string">面對這麼不公不義的問題,難道國家政府卻只能冷淡的回應它們說:這是上天註定好的事情,你們抱怨甚麼呢? 你們這一群沒有任何親人的弱勢學生,有沒有本事去念書,那是您自己的問題;誰叫你生在這樣環境,國家已經放棄你們了. </div>
<div class="long_string">假使國家政府是用這麼消極的心態面對這樣的問題,這樣國家社會還有所謂的公平正義嗎? 那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生,是否永遠都沒有辦法可以追求所謂的學識去翻轉自己窮困的命運呢?</div>
<div class="long_string">那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生想念書增長自我的學識;並在大學院校的學習科目當中,習得既有的學問去翻轉命運,這是好事. 但是最大的問題是甚麼? 必須要有(教育部)做他們最後的後盾! 偏偏在沒有國家政府的支持之下,那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生,不是無奈的選擇放棄就學;不然就是選擇中途休學,難道他們永遠都要被排除在邊疆民族之外,未來並成為下一個流落台北車站 的(街友),這是國家政府的期待嗎?</div>
第一.甚麼叫做(大專校院弱勢學生助學計畫助學金)?
<div class="long_string">答:這必須要先自行繳納全部的學雜費,而助學金何時才會發放? 也是要等到下學期的時候,助學金才會下來;並在下學期的學雜費中予以減免. 但是對這一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生來說,幫助不大! </div>
第二.學校可以提供(急難救助金)協助這一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生?
<div class="long_string">答:他們既沒有親人、也不是低收入戶、更不是身障者;在無親無故的狀況之下,它們又如何向學校申請( 急難救助金)呢? 我認為學校能提供給它們的資源,還是非常的有限.</div>
第三.大專院校應該有提供所謂的(學雜費分期付款)吧?
答:不是每一個學校都有這樣的制度! 我相信當政者並非不是它們現在的處境,相信一輩子也不會了解它們所面臨到的狀況,我看了實在是(心寒)啊.
第四.可以向民間團體及慈濟功德會尋求協助啊?
<div class="long_string">答:他們既沒有親人、也不是低收入戶、更不是身障者;在無親無故的狀況之下,如何向慈善團體循求協助與幫忙呢 ? 我也相信換誰執政都是一樣的,這麼複雜性的問題,但是在國家政府的眼中,可能不是非常重要的社會討論空間,最後處裡的結果是甚麼? 大家心中自有一把尺.</div>
第五.不一定要找親人作保申請就學貸款,其實可以找最要好的朋友作(保人)啊?
<div class="long_string">答:隨便去問問自己最要好的朋友,他們會(心甘情願)自己的朋友(做保)申請就學貸款嗎? 答案是不可能! 這是一件非常強人所難的事情,何必要求他人做那{心不甘又情不願}的事情呢? 這不但損及朋友之間的(友誼);更破壞朋友之間所建立起來的情感.</div>
<div class="long_string">我的(訴求)是甚麼? 一般弱勢的學生可籍由親人作保的方式申請(就學貸款)念書;當然那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生,也可以籍由(就學貸款)的方式念書,但是前提是甚麼? 政府必須支持它們;並由教育部出面做它們的(替代保人),大家認同我的說法嗎? </div>
<div class="long_string">我想告訴2300萬的台灣人民說: 在台灣主流的社會上,不公不義的事情太多了,特別是針對這那一群沒有任何親人可作保申請就學貸款的弱勢學生;想要念書,卻又完全的沒有這樣的資源可以念書,問題究竟是出在哪裡? 不就是沒有任何的親人可做(保證人)嗎!</div>
所以我非常的盼望甚麼? 就是能夠透過(公投)與(修法)的方式;並實質保障那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生,穩固它們既有的就學權益.
<div class="long_string">什麼叫做(公平正義)的就學權? 讓那一群沒有任何親人可作保的弱勢學生,可以藉由(教育部)出面作替代保人的方式申請就學貸款,這樣才符合世代性所謂的(公平正義) ,大家是否認同我的說法?</div>
利益與影響
<div class="long_string">修法所帶來的影響: 扶助那一群沒有任何親人可作保申請就學貸款的弱勢學生均能和一般弱勢的學生申請(就學貸款);不能因為無法提出保證人,而讓那一群沒有任何親人可作保申請就學貸款的弱勢學生喪失既有的(就學權).</div>
<div class="long_string">若這一群沒有任何親人可作保申請就學貸款的弱勢學生,卻因為無法提出保人的因素而放棄就學,這是否完全違背就學貸款成立的美意;更喪失世代公平的正義呢?</div>
資料來源:<a href="https://join.gov.tw/idea/detail/d3b5de7e-096c-4e2b-8060-45aa149e82f2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://join.gov.tw/idea/detail/d3b5de7e-096c-4e2b-8060-45aa149e82f2</a>
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seere
如果這真的是阿共仔欸陰謀... 好可怕啊~
http://disp.cc/b/1022-b1Yr
2018-12-19T01:43:54+08:00
2018-12-19T01:47:26+08:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buc3pFIB2NU&t=337s
這是我今天youtube首頁的影片連結之一
聽完之後覺得有點毛骨悚然R
看著習老一路走來的"政蹟" 和阿共一直以來的作為 以及周邊聽到來自對岸的一手資訊 我覺得這影片有一定的可信度
總之 就算民進黨推行的有些政策真的不知所以 但至少不像某黨一樣舔共舔得亂七八糟 這點還是值得珍惜
尤其最近豬瘟事件很明顯對岸釋出了濃濃的惡意--不公開處理 還試圖把染病豬肉送進台灣
無論如何 當前局勢實在不該親中 就算是為了保護我們台灣人
畢竟中國對於自己人民都滿嘴謊言 且草菅人命(毒疫苗等) 台灣如果被吞了又能指望多好的生活?
希望各位島民能提起警戒心 不要為了近利而跟著對面的極權政府一起沉淪 珍惜台灣擁有的自由
還務必多多關注對岸的各種消息 知己知彼 百戰不殆
最後 最近聽到很多反共的言論 都是由對岸人民發表 很難想像他們都跟懦弱的台灣政府有掛鉤
也就是說 消息的可信度頗高
--天佑台灣,Peace! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> seere (新使用者seere)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 多多了解兩岸局勢吧~<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-12-19 Wed. 01:44:25</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buc3pFIB2NU&t=337s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buc3pFIB2NU&t=337s</a>
這是我今天youtube首頁的影片連結之一
聽完之後覺得有點毛骨悚然R
看著習老一路走來的"政蹟" 和阿共一直以來的作為 以及周邊聽到來自對岸的一手資訊 我覺得這影片有一定的可信度
總之 就算民進黨推行的有些政策真的不知所以 但至少不像某黨一樣舔共舔得亂七八糟 這點還是值得珍惜
尤其最近豬瘟事件很明顯對岸釋出了濃濃的惡意--不公開處理 還試圖把染病豬肉送進台灣
無論如何 當前局勢實在不該親中 就算是為了保護我們台灣人
畢竟中國對於自己人民都滿嘴謊言 且草菅人命(毒疫苗等) 台灣如果被吞了又能指望多好的生活?
希望各位島民能提起警戒心 不要為了近利而跟著對面的極權政府一起沉淪 珍惜台灣擁有的自由
還務必多多關注對岸的各種消息 知己知彼 百戰不殆
最後 最近聽到很多反共的言論 都是由對岸人民發表 很難想像他們都跟懦弱的台灣政府有掛鉤
也就是說 消息的可信度頗高
--天佑台灣,Peace!
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tkdsky152
[求助]抵制
http://disp.cc/b/1022-aSjZ
2018-10-10T17:12:20+08:00
2018-10-10T17:12:20+08:00
各位大家好
這是一份論文問卷,是有關於頂新事件的抵制問題下去做探討與研究。
本問卷不涉及個資問題,希望各位朋友能幫我做填寫及轉傳
如果可以請幫我轉發給34歲以上的朋友,感謝大家的協助。
https://goo.gl/forms/f1GWn7Ahz8DzQn693
如有違規會立即刪文 ...]]>
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各位大家好
這是一份論文問卷,是有關於頂新事件的抵制問題下去做探討與研究。
本問卷不涉及個資問題,希望各位朋友能幫我做填寫及轉傳
如果可以請幫我轉發給34歲以上的朋友,感謝大家的協助。
<a href="https://goo.gl/forms/f1GWn7Ahz8DzQn693" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/forms/f1GWn7Ahz8DzQn693</a>
如有違規會立即刪文
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Mic111202
警察還有在釣魚哦??
http://disp.cc/b/1022-aHIC
2018-06-30T15:18:09+08:00
2018-06-30T15:18:09+08:00
援交妹等於警察?! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Mic111202 (新竹老公)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 警察還有在釣魚哦??<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2018-06-30 Sat. 15:17:35</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
援交妹等於警察?!
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genius051
臺北客家義民嘉年華熱鬧踩街 政府民間齊心推動客家語言文化
http://disp.cc/b/1022-ajyJ
2017-11-05T18:01:38+08:00
2017-11-05T18:01:38+08:00
由客家委員會指導、臺北市政府客家事務委員會主辦的「2017臺北客家義民嘉年華」,22日上午在總統府前凱達格蘭大道舉行挑擔踩街啟動儀式,由蔡英文總統、客家委員會主任委員李永得及臺北市長柯文哲共同為遊行隊伍擊鼓揭開序幕。蔡總統表示,政府會持續支持客家語言文化發展,讓臺灣的客家文化成為最珍貴的資產。
蔡總統致詞時指出,臺北市的客家鄉親在30年前辦理第一屆的義民祭典,至今持續吸引許多客家朋友及來自全世界的遊客參與,共同感受客家義民精神。
蔡總統說,30年前也是還我母語運動發起的時候,經過前輩們不懈地努力,今年6月終於成立客語廣播電台─講客廣播電台,將客語列為國家語言的《客家基本法》修正草案現在也被行政院列為優先法案送立法院審議;大家最關心的浪漫臺三線計畫也已正式啟動,整合各部會預算加上前瞻基礎建設計畫,預計投入超過100億的經費,以帶動臺三線觀光產業的發展。她強調,未來政府將會持續支持客家語言文化及歷史的保存與發展,振興客庄產業,讓臺灣的客家文化成為最珍貴的資產。
隨後,李主委前往臺北市客家文化主題公園參加「2017臺北客家義民嘉年華」主祭大典,與柯市長、台灣觀光協會會長葉菊蘭、客屬總會榮譽會 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> genius051 (啦啦雄)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 臺北客家義民嘉年華熱鬧踩街 政府民間齊心推動客家語言文化<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-11-05 Sun. 18:01:31</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
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<div class="long_string">由客家委員會指導、臺北市政府客家事務委員會主辦的「2017臺北客家義民嘉年華」,22日上午在總統府前凱達格蘭大道舉行挑擔踩街啟動儀式,由蔡英文總統、客家委員會主任委員李永得及臺北市長柯文哲共同為遊行隊伍擊鼓揭開序幕。蔡總統表示,政府會持續支持客家語言文化發展,讓臺灣的客家文化成為最珍貴的資產。</div>
<div class="long_string">蔡總統致詞時指出,臺北市的客家鄉親在30年前辦理第一屆的義民祭典,至今持續吸引許多客家朋友及來自全世界的遊客參與,共同感受客家義民精神。</div>
<div class="long_string">蔡總統說,30年前也是還我母語運動發起的時候,經過前輩們不懈地努力,今年6月終於成立客語廣播電台─講客廣播電台,將客語列為國家語言的《客家基本法》修正草案現在也被行政院列為優先法案送立法院審議;大家最關心的浪漫臺三線計畫也已正式啟動,整合各部會預算加上前瞻基礎建設計畫,預計投入超過100億的經費,以帶動臺三線觀光產業的發展。她強調,未來政府將會持續支持客家語言文化及歷史的保存與發展,振興客庄產業,讓臺灣的客家文化成為最珍貴的資產。</div>
<div class="long_string">隨後,李主委前往臺北市客家文化主題公園參加「2017臺北客家義民嘉年華」主祭大典,與柯市長、台灣觀光協會會長葉菊蘭、客屬總會榮譽會長吳伯雄、中央大學榮譽教授羅肇錦、新竹縣褒忠亭董事長徐德馨及世大運撞球冠軍古正勤等人共同擔任正獻官,眾人循古禮向義民爺行三獻禮,祈求國泰民安、風調雨順。</div>
<div class="long_string">李主委致詞時表示,「臺北客家義民嘉年華」今年邁入第30屆,參與人數更甚往年,現場熱鬧非凡,非常感謝臺北市政府及市民朋友對客家文化活動的支持,讓客家義民保家衛民的團結精神持續傳承及發揚。</div>
<div class="long_string">李主委也提到,現今客語傳承面臨極大的挑戰,希望所有鄉親能夠鼓勵下一代學習客語,才能真正延續客家文化。客委會將與鄉親及地方政府共同努力,推動客家語言文化永續傳承。</div>
<div class="long_string">臺北市政府客委會表示,「2017臺北客家義民嘉年華」自10月21日至23日在臺北客家文化主題公園舉辦,邀請全臺代表性義民廟共襄盛舉,從都會移民節慶的角度展現客家文化,包括以義民信仰為基底,透過「祭典」重現客家傳統祭儀;將感謝義民爺保護的「挑擔奉飯」以「遊行」型式表現其文化意涵;以及以「藝文」豐富多元客家文化的三大主軸活動。透過傳統與現代、都會與原鄉?客家與多元的對接,將臺北義民嘉年華打造成世界客家中深具客家特色的「城市藝術節」,歡迎所有民眾踴躍參加。</div>
訊息來源:客家委員會
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jetalpha.
Fw: [FB] 鍾年晃【2017世大運812正名行動】
http://disp.cc/b/1022-abuN
2017-08-09T19:08:37+08:00
2017-08-11T05:01:04+08:00
心得:
本篇文章為 鍾年晃 2017/08/09 18:45的發文,內容在協助宣傳
2017世大運812正名行動_台灣不是中華台北 Let Taiwan Be Taiwan 封街空拍行動
該活動簡介及報名網址如下:https://goo.gl/XXDjEr (同文末網址)
2017世大運812正名行動_台灣不是中華台北
活動時間:8/12(六)9:00-10:30
活動地點:台北市北平東路紹興北街口,華山公園前
活動內容摘要:本活動希望邀請大家一起前來拉起30公尺長「Taiwan is
not Chinese Taipei」、「Let Taiwan Be Taiwan」的巨幅布條,封街空拍。
我們計劃透過這場空拍行動,以感性的訴求,拍攝成短片,並搭配中、英、日、
西班牙文...的字幕與旁白,來歡迎所有來台參加世大運活動的貴賓,希望所有的
賓客們,都能賓至如歸,對台灣留下美好的印象。
還請關注台灣正名議題的朋友能撥冗參與這個活動,謝謝。
卦點:
民間發起【2017世大運812正名行動迭艦x灣不是中華台北】活動
邀請大家一起前來拉起30公尺長「Taiwan is not ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PublicIssue </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> jetalpha (月迷風影)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Fw: [FB] 鍾年晃【2017世大運812正名行動】<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Aug 9 19:08:37 2017</div><hr color="#008080" />
心得:
本篇文章為 鍾年晃 2017/08/09 18:45的發文,內容在協助宣傳
<span style="color:#F0F000">2017世大運812正名行動_台灣不是中華台北 Let Taiwan Be Taiwan 封街空拍行動</span>
該活動簡介及報名網址如下:<a href="https://goo.gl/XXDjEr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/XXDjEr</a> (同文末網址)
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc1GDjoik7VMBq1cvnzaEZmPf6d-JIsWkvmyGWtwSqYrrU2RQ/viewform" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>2017世大運812正名行動_台灣不是中華台北</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">活動時間:8/12(六)9:00-10:30</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">活動地點:台北市北平東路紹興北街口,華山公園前</span>
活動內容摘要:本活動希望邀請大家一起前來拉起30公尺長「Taiwan is
not Chinese Taipei」、「Let Taiwan Be Taiwan」的巨幅布條,封街空拍。
<div class="combine-lines">我們計劃透過這場空拍行動,以感性的訴求,拍攝成短片,並搭配中、英、日、
西班牙文...的字幕與旁白,來歡迎所有來台參加世大運活動的貴賓,希望所有的
賓客們,都能賓至如歸,對台灣留下美好的印象。</div>
還請關注台灣正名議題的朋友能撥冗參與這個活動,謝謝。
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cheinshin (那就這樣吧)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [FB] 鍾年晃【2017世大運812正名行動】<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Aug 9 19:06:34 2017</div><hr color="#008080" />
卦點:
民間發起【2017世大運812正名行動迭艦x灣不是中華台北】活動
<div class="combine-lines">邀請大家一起前來拉起30公尺長「Taiwan is not Chinese Taipei」、「Let Taiwan Be
Taiwan」的巨幅布條,封街空拍。更要向國際發聲,為2020東京奧運正名暖身,表達台灣
人要「將台灣正名為台灣」的心聲。</div>
<a href="https://goo.gl/4oExfH" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/4oExfH</a>
<div align="center"><div align="center" style="white-space: nowrap;"><iframe style="max-width:100%;" class="fb_iframe" width="640" height="350" src="/iframe/fb-post.php?width=640&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpermalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D1380644558638959%26amp%3Bid%3D451016634935094" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div> </div>
鍾年晃
<div class="combine-lines">這個活動很有意義,特別在「中華台北島」事件之後,因為時間緊迫,請大家踴躍幫忙。
我們想拍一支1分半鐘的短片,歡迎世大運選手們來到台灣。同時也讓他們聽見台灣人的
聲音-Let Taiwan Be Taiwan</div>
只是我們沒有那麼多人手,需要您和我們一起來完成這個夢想。您願意加入我們,和我們
一起來完成這個活動嗎?
<a href="https://goo.gl/XXDjEr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/XXDjEr</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc1GDjoik7VMBq1cvnzaEZmPf6d-JIsWkvmyGWtwSqYrrU2RQ/viewform" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>2017世大運812正名行動_台灣不是中華台北</strong></a></div></div> </div>
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waylonchened
宗教與世界變遷?
http://disp.cc/b/1022-a4gx
2017-05-30T17:34:00+08:00
2017-05-30T17:34:00+08:00
我從小是個過敏兒,是個經常為鼻子過敏所困的人,鼻子只要過敏就很難專注於課業或是工作,並且相當消耗精神力,因為整天都在流鼻水與打噴嚏的輪迴裡。至從出國念書以後,過敏的症狀得到明顯的改善,可以說是幾乎不曾發生過,先不討論國外先天氣候條件,但就傳統文化上不管是產業或是宗教的行為,我們似乎就是比國外多了許多燒東燒西的行為,這是身為一個過敏者注意到的事情。
一直以來我對於宗教信仰的態度持理解與尊敬的看法,如果宗教可以使人堅強、使人向善、使人得到心靈的依託,那不管是什麼宗教團體我都願意給予尊重。由於近年氣候變遷,大環境改變還有世界上各種動物棲地還有環境因此受到影響進而面臨生存的危機,諸如此類的新聞報導、專題、節目、文章層出不窮,有人不信但我選擇相信,也因此我對宗教開始有了另一層全新的看法,尤其是我所熟悉的台灣特有道教文化。
以往逢年過節,各大節日都能看見阿公阿嬤會祭拜神明或者是祖先,但這些傳統與習俗的習慣僅止於祖父這輩,我的父母輩在生活中已經不會有這些習俗的習慣。對於老一輩的傳統還有信仰我試曾改變,像是過節準備過量的食物造成連續好幾天都要吃隔夜菜的情況,或是燃燒金紙所造成的環境污染,這些在我看來是 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> waylonchened (誰也不是)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 宗教與世界變遷?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2017-05-30 Tue. 17:32:35</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="long_string">我從小是個過敏兒,是個經常為鼻子過敏所困的人,鼻子只要過敏就很難專注於課業或是工作,並且相當消耗精神力,因為整天都在流鼻水與打噴嚏的輪迴裡。至從出國念書以後,過敏的症狀得到明顯的改善,可以說是幾乎不曾發生過,先不討論國外先天氣候條件,但就傳統文化上不管是產業或是宗教的行為,我們似乎就是比國外多了許多燒東燒西的行為,這是身為一個過敏者注意到的事情。</div>
<div class="long_string">一直以來我對於宗教信仰的態度持理解與尊敬的看法,如果宗教可以使人堅強、使人向善、使人得到心靈的依託,那不管是什麼宗教團體我都願意給予尊重。由於近年氣候變遷,大環境改變還有世界上各種動物棲地還有環境因此受到影響進而面臨生存的危機,諸如此類的新聞報導、專題、節目、文章層出不窮,有人不信但我選擇相信,也因此我對宗教開始有了另一層全新的看法,尤其是我所熟悉的台灣特有道教文化。</div>
<div class="long_string">以往逢年過節,各大節日都能看見阿公阿嬤會祭拜神明或者是祖先,但這些傳統與習俗的習慣僅止於祖父這輩,我的父母輩在生活中已經不會有這些習俗的習慣。對於老一輩的傳統還有信仰我試曾改變,像是過節準備過量的食物造成連續好幾天都要吃隔夜菜的情況,或是燃燒金紙所造成的環境污染,這些在我看來是可以被改善的民俗習慣,但是老一輩的解釋是對神明及先人的供養以庇佑我們的平安,甚至曾聽聞有祖先託夢或是以通靈的方式傳達金紙燒的不夠,或是燒的種類不對。這一切開始令我感到不解,姑且不管託夢與通靈的真實與否,我們聽從祖先及神明的指示最終是否只為求自身的心安,還有家族的興順?長輩經常會說一句話「寧可信其有,不可信其無」,這句話似乎成了宗教神蹟及各種現象的最佳解釋,白話說就是「你什麼都別管,相信就對了!」</div>
<div class="long_string">曾經我認為宗教的存在是使人向善,對人、對事、對萬物。如今我聽過不只道教甚至是基督教或者伊斯蘭教,可能我對各宗教的理解並不足以對其做帶有偏見的解讀,但是似乎所謂的神或神明,僅賜予追隨的信徒祂的庇佑,否則其他宗教或者無宗教信仰的人口,不做相同的禮拜、相同的宗教民俗供養的人,是否就得不到相同的平安?如果神真的是神聖並善良的存在,為什麼祂會要求祂的子民做出對世界造成破壞,以達到部分信徒的安定?</div>
<div class="long_string">我曾疑惑我該如何教育我的下一代,為何他們所出生的時代氣候相較於過去是如此的嚴峻,他們身上的過敏原是來自於我們還有前人造成的貽害,還有只能從博物館認識最近一個世紀所消逝的物種,為何面臨大環境的氣候變遷我們卻可以義無反故的維持對環境有害的民俗信仰,並向國際表示這是我們所引以為傲的獨特文化?這個疑惑我到現在也沒有解答,究竟何時世界的道德觀才能統一?地球村的概念以及環境你我人人有責不是我們從小的教育?為何如此迥異的價值觀可以併存於台灣這個小小的社會?</div>
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yyytt
現在的捷運
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9W67
2017-03-19T18:19:02+08:00
2017-03-19T18:19:02+08:00
請問一下大家對捷運有什麼看法? ...]]>
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請問一下大家對捷運有什麼看法?
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Nkis
今天上課又遲到了!!!
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9TL7
2017-02-23T07:47:05+08:00
2017-02-23T07:47:05+08:00
今天原本可以在7:30分前到校的,就因為汐止路窄,下雨天又特別會塞車,就算6:30出門,也可以塞到7:15,我到底什麼時候才不會遲到啊~(求解...) ...]]>
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今天原本可以在7:30分前到校的,就因為汐止路窄,下雨天又特別會塞車,就算6:30出門,也可以塞到7:15,我到底什麼時候才不會遲到啊~(求解...)
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讚 NICK60807:等你不住汐止的時候</div></pre>
aj0268
雲林口湖鄉長補選 民進黨林哲凌造勢晚會發生選舉暴力
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9BjN
2016-09-05T09:05:49+08:00
2016-09-05T09:05:49+08:00
民進黨 繼 康宜段 爆 「鄙視選民」後 民進黨最後一戰補選 雲林口湖鄉長
民進黨 提名人 林哲凌的姑丈 因為選舉對立 竟然暴力推打對手一位老阿伯
「選舉暴力」 蔡孟真 支持者 70幾歲的忠義伯 目前這位阿伯 受傷住院
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(693x851)]
http://ppt.cc/Nedj8 林哲凌造勢現場 ...]]>
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民進黨 繼 康宜段 爆 「鄙視選民」後 民進黨最後一戰補選 雲林口湖鄉長
民進黨 提名人 林哲凌的姑丈 因為選舉對立 竟然暴力推打對手一位老阿伯
「選舉暴力」 蔡孟真 支持者 70幾歲的忠義伯 目前這位阿伯 受傷住院
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://ppt.cc/Nedj8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(693x851)]
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<a href="http://ppt.cc/Nedj8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/Nedj8</a> 林哲凌造勢現場
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aj0268
Re: 民進黨段宜康鄙視選民後之最後一戰補選
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9AUg
2016-09-01T10:40:32+08:00
2016-09-01T10:40:32+08:00
哈 推 ...]]>
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哈 推
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aj02680268
民進黨段宜康鄙視選民後之最後一戰補選
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9AQh
2016-08-31T21:19:51+08:00
2016-08-31T21:19:51+08:00
民進黨段宜康鄙視選民後之最後一戰補選 雲林口湖鄉長補選
有鄉民預測應該是3號蔡孟真 現任議員 vs 2號林哲凌 現任議員的對決
提名人 林哲凌 補選口湖鄉長 2號 侯選人
有口湖鄉親說這種侯選人我們甘投的下去?
在段宜康鄙視選民前08/25已經有南下助選林哲凌
8/27花蓮敗選 後鄙視選民才大爆發 民進黨段宜康之鄙視選民過後 補選最後一戰
民進黨 雲林口湖 補選鄉長 提名人 林哲凌 前科紀錄
【1】2009年 第17屆議員 支持者樁腳 幫忙 林哲凌 議員 買票 判決有罪
台南高分院判決定讞
【2】2008總統大選 林哲凌議員在家當組頭 被判賭博罪定讞
甚至還有搜索到「╳╳鄉╳╳鄉長買票作業名單」
台南高分院上訴駁回 雲林地院判決定讞
99 選上訴 304 台南高分院 案由賄選
98 上易 210 台南高分院 案由賭博 資料來源 司法資料庫
https://youtu.be/5ZvremBGI94
(內有影音檔 超打臉的 雲林縣長李進勇呼籲利用椿腳買票的人 我們不要投給他)
2號 林哲凌網路 正反面文宣:
http://ppt.cc/IzXjX 網路相關文宣
http://ppt.cc ...]]>
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民進黨段宜康鄙視選民後之最後一戰補選 雲林口湖鄉長補選
有鄉民預測應該是3號蔡孟真 現任議員 vs 2號林哲凌 現任議員的對決
提名人 林哲凌 補選口湖鄉長 2號 侯選人
有口湖鄉親說這種侯選人我們甘投的下去?
在段宜康鄙視選民前08/25已經有南下助選林哲凌
8/27花蓮敗選 後鄙視選民才大爆發 民進黨段宜康之鄙視選民過後 補選最後一戰
民進黨 雲林口湖 補選鄉長 提名人 林哲凌 前科紀錄
【1】2009年 第17屆議員 支持者樁腳 幫忙 林哲凌 議員 買票 判決有罪
台南高分院判決定讞
【2】2008總統大選 林哲凌議員在家當組頭 被判賭博罪定讞
甚至還有搜索到「╳╳鄉╳╳鄉長買票作業名單」
台南高分院上訴駁回 雲林地院判決定讞
99 選上訴 304 台南高分院 案由賄選
98 上易 210 台南高分院 案由賭博 資料來源 司法資料庫
<a href="https://youtu.be/5ZvremBGI94" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/5ZvremBGI94</a>
(內有影音檔 超打臉的 雲林縣長李進勇呼籲利用椿腳買票的人 我們不要投給他)
2號 林哲凌網路 正反面文宣:
<a href="http://ppt.cc/IzXjX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/IzXjX</a> 網路相關文宣
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stevechang67
在支持廢死之前你必看的幾個案件
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9xyE
2016-07-30T13:27:29+08:00
2016-07-30T13:27:29+08:00
在這個思想日新月異的時代裏面,許多從前沒有提出的政策和議題都漸漸浮上水面。多元成家、十二年國教、和最近十分火熱的廢死議題在幾十年前不但不會被重視,甚至可能會被政府的相關部門約談。但在你支持廢死這個提案之前,你是否看過這些案件?
註:所貼文章可能會引起部分不適,在點開之前請慎重考慮
1. 女子高中生水泥埋屍案
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/女子高中生水泥埋屍案
http://baike.baidu.com/view/4258748....amp;fromid=405315&type=syn
綾瀨水泥殺人案 (又稱女子高中生水泥埋屍案) 是日本1989年發生的一起慘絕人寰的殺人埋屍事件,事件中的四名主嫌均未成年。但嫌犯在此事件中所使用的酷刑以及埋屍手法均在日本造成轟動。
2. 黑色大理花懸案
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/黑色大理花懸案
此案件發生於1940年代的加州,死者生前慘遭凌虐與瘋狂毒打,整個嘴唇被割裂到耳邊,形成驚悚的小丑式笑容;屍體被攔腰斬斷為兩半;器官都遭取出,尤其是下身;屍體經清洗至幾乎無血跡,且體內血液徹 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> stevechang67 (steve@UCLA)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 在支持廢死之前你必看的幾個案件<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2016-07-30 Sat. 13:27:29</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="long_string">在這個思想日新月異的時代裏面,許多從前沒有提出的政策和議題都漸漸浮上水面。多元成家、十二年國教、和最近十分火熱的廢死議題在幾十年前不但不會被重視,甚至可能會被政府的相關部門約談。但在你支持廢死這個提案之前,你是否看過這些案件?</div>
註:所貼文章可能會引起部分不適,在點開之前請慎重考慮
1. 女子高中生水泥埋屍案
<a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A5%B3%E5%AD%90%E9%AB%98%E4%B8%AD%E7%94%9F%E6%B0%B4%E6%B3%A5%E5%9F%8B%E5%B1%8D%E6%A1%88" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/女子高中生水泥埋屍案</a>
<a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/4258748.htm?fromtitle=%E5%A5%B3%E5%AD%90%E9%AB%98%E4%B8%AD%E7%94%9F%E6%B0%B4%E6%B3%A5%E5%9F%8B%E5%B0%B8%E6%A1%88&fromid=405315&type=syn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://baike.baidu.com/view/4258748....amp;fromid=405315&type=syn</a>
<div class="long_string">綾瀨水泥殺人案 (又稱女子高中生水泥埋屍案) 是日本1989年發生的一起慘絕人寰的殺人埋屍事件,事件中的四名主嫌均未成年。但嫌犯在此事件中所使用的酷刑以及埋屍手法均在日本造成轟動。</div>
2. 黑色大理花懸案
<a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BB%91%E8%89%B2%E5%A4%A7%E7%90%86%E8%8A%B1%E6%87%B8%E6%A1%88" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/黑色大理花懸案</a>
<div class="long_string">此案件發生於1940年代的加州,死者生前慘遭凌虐與瘋狂毒打,整個嘴唇被割裂到耳邊,形成驚悚的小丑式笑容;屍體被攔腰斬斷為兩半;器官都遭取出,尤其是下身;屍體經清洗至幾乎無血跡,且體內血液徹底流乾。(維基百科)</div>
3. 2016年內湖隨機殺人事件
<a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E5%B9%B4%E5%85%A7%E6%B9%96%E9%9A%A8%E6%A9%9F%E6%AE%BA%E4%BA%BA%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016年內湖隨機殺人事件</a>
此案件相信大部分的台灣人都知道,一名四歲的小女孩當街被歹徒斬首。
看完這些案件之後,請試想若這些事發生在你身邊的親人、朋友上的時候,你是否還能持守的你的堅持,對這些影響你一生的嫌犯帶有你所謂的寬容。
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讚 NICK60807:總之一句話 廢死就能降低反罪率嗎?</div></pre>
link1234.
[情報] 20160513立法院政黨協商 關於WHA聲明
http://disp.cc/b/1022-9p6i
2016-05-14T03:39:34+08:00
2016-05-15T11:13:06+08:00
昨天早上,立法院其實有一場政黨協商,是關於立法院裡是否要擬一份共同聲明譴責WHA
裡的一中原則,我很建議大家花時間看一看。其實過去這幾年,在外交上一直被中共欺負
,又拿他們沒辦法。為了國際衛生組織的參與權,一直都忍氣吞聲。
影片來源:
https://youtu.be/PjqWptjy_Xs
20160513 黃國昌 (AM8:14,8:17,8:39,9:00) 徐永明 吳秉叡 王育敏 陳亭妃 江啟臣 李鴻鈞 柯建銘 劉世芳 蘇嘉全 WHA 聲明 ;延會 黨團協商【立法院演哪齣?】 - YouTube 今天林德福沒來?! 王育敏 AM0824 21:24 AM0829 25:20 AM0852 48:20 王育敏講閩南語 AM0856 52:43 徐永明 AM0826 22:00 AM0846 42:10 AM0902 58:00 吳秉叡 AM0827 23:20 AM0830 26:20 AM0835 31:...
Ps.....台灣人一定要自己多加油阿(無論經濟、外交與國際表現上)!出了國,你才會
知道老共是多麼可惡!還是那句話,當家才知持家難。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PublicIssue </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> link1234 (老謝看天下)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] 20160513立法院政黨協商 關於WHA聲明<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sat May 14 03:39:34 2016</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="combine-lines">昨天早上,立法院其實有一場政黨協商,是關於立法院裡是否要擬一份共同聲明譴責WHA
裡的一中原則,我很建議大家花時間看一看。其實過去這幾年,在外交上一直被中共欺負
,又拿他們沒辦法。為了國際衛生組織的參與權,一直都忍氣吞聲。</div>
影片來源:
<a href="https://youtu.be/PjqWptjy_Xs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/PjqWptjy_Xs</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjqWptjy_Xs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>20160513 黃國昌 (AM8:14,8:17,8:39,9:00) 徐永明 吳秉叡 王育敏 陳亭妃 江啟臣 李鴻鈞 柯建銘 劉世芳 蘇嘉全 WHA 聲明 ;延會 黨團協商【立法院演哪齣?】 - YouTube</strong></a> 今天林德福沒來?! 王育敏 AM0824 21:24 AM0829 25:20 AM0852 48:20 王育敏講閩南語 AM0856 52:43 徐永明 AM0826 22:00 AM0846 42:10 AM0902 58:00 吳秉叡 AM0827 23:20 AM0830 26:20 AM0835 31:...</div></div>
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Ps.....台灣人一定要自己多加油阿(無論經濟、外交與國際表現上)!出了國,你才會
知道老共是多麼可惡!還是那句話,當家才知持家難。
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yuhao7025
【分享】恐怖故事第二彈,台灣被ISIS攻擊?還是被中共?
http://disp.cc/b/1022-960R
2015-11-25T17:54:23+08:00
2015-11-25T17:54:23+08:00
因為前幾天歐巴馬那個小混蛋,啥好事沒有台灣的份。
屎缺就有台灣要參加,高喊著抵抗反IS也有「中華民國」這個國家。結果:
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ISIS把中華民國國旗列在「預計攻怖攻擊」的清單當中
很多人覺得很開心,再怎麼樣,至少都是一種變相的被承認中華民國這個國家。而且中共應該氣的跳腳吧!
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媽的,當下聽到我臉就綠了啊,這一點都不值得高興好嗎…
你知道這則恐怖故事,中國共產黨的會怎麼想嗎?
「共產黨高興死啦!有機會可以名正言順的搞台灣」
.
怎麼搞?恐怖故事開始啦
你記得中國賣武器給ISIS嗎?對,當ISIS重要的資源掌握在ISIS手上時,中國這麼會談判的假掰民族哪可能這麼誠懇的跟ISIS交易?拜託,這是基本的交涉手法,當然要留一點你看的到吃不到的軍火或者是利益,才能在必要時利用一下ISIS。
.
ㄟ你反問我,ISIS不是連中國人都殺嗎?
你傻了啊?中國官方有在管中國人質怎樣嗎?比起利益跟人命,中共看哪個?你第一天認識中共啊?
.
一方面把檯面下的軍火交易跟ISIS利誘一下交換利益,要求他們在台灣發動小規模的恐怖攻擊,長期處於治安和平的台灣,早就已經喪失面對恐怖攻擊跟戰爭的能力了,別忘記戰爭是不長眼睛 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> saklove1 (新北市版主 豪豪)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 【分享】恐怖故事第二彈,台灣被ISIS攻擊?還是被中共?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-11-25 Wed. 17:54:23</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="img" data-ori_w="320" data-ori_h="220" style="width:320px;height:220px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/rahg4oL.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>
<span style="color:#008000">因為前幾天</span><span style="color:#F000F0">歐巴馬</span><span style="color:#008000">那個小混蛋</span>,<span style="color:#008000">啥好事沒有台灣的份</span>。
<span style="color:#008000">屎缺就有</span><span style="color:#0000F0">台灣</span><span style="color:#008000">要參加</span>,<span style="color:#008000">高喊著抵抗反</span><span style="color:#F00000">IS</span><span style="color:#008000">也有</span>「<span style="color:#0000F0">中華民國</span>」<span style="color:#008000">這個國家</span>。<span style="color:#008000">結果</span>:
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<span style="color:#F00000">ISIS</span><span style="color:#008000">把</span><span style="color:#0000F0">中華民國</span><span style="color:#008000">國旗列在「預計攻怖攻擊」的清單當中</span>
<span style="color:#008000">很多人覺得很開心,再怎麼樣,至少都是一種變相的被承認</span><span style="color:#0000F0">中華民國</span><span style="color:#008000">這個國家。而且中共應該氣的跳腳吧!</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">媽的,當下聽到我臉就綠了啊,這一點都不值得高興好嗎…</span>
<span style="color:#008000">你知道這則恐怖故事,<span style="color:#000080">中國共產黨</span>的會怎麼想嗎?
「<span style="color:#000080">共產黨</span>高興死啦!有機會可以名正言順的搞<span style="color:#0000F0">台灣</span>」</span>
.
<span style="color:#008000">怎麼搞?恐怖故事開始啦
<div class="long_string">你記得中國賣武器給<span style="color:#F00000">ISIS</span>嗎?對,當ISIS重要的資源掌握在ISIS手上時,中國這麼會談判的假掰民族哪可能這麼誠懇的跟ISIS交易?拜託,這是基本的交涉手法,當然要留一點你看的到吃不到的軍火或者是利益,才能在必要時利用一下ISIS。</span></div>
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<span style="color:#008000">ㄟ你反問我,ISIS不是連中國人都殺嗎?
你傻了啊?中國官方有在管中國人質怎樣嗎?比起利益跟人命,中共看哪個?你第一天認識中共啊?</span>
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<div class="long_string"><span style="color:#008000">一方面把檯面下的軍火交易跟ISIS利誘一下交換利益,要求他們在台灣發動小規模的恐怖攻擊,長期處於治安和平的台灣,早就已經喪失面對恐怖攻擊跟戰爭的能力了,別忘記戰爭是不長眼睛的,這時候還希望軍警來保護你?軍人?警察?我看警察碰到恐攻除了疏導還不知道會幹嘛(其實那也不是他們的職權,這時候分工就清楚的咧)。</div>
<div class="long_string">只要發動了相關攻擊,媒體就會開始大肆報導,製造恐慌以獲取新聞焦點就是台灣媒體最愛做的事,全台灣有8成以上的人民會因為恐怖而陷入恐慌,政府就可以開始做另一些事</div>
二方面,開始跟KMT溝通一下,還有請那個最聽話的老馬來發佈「戒嚴」</span>
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<span style="color:#800080">第1條(宣告戒嚴之程序)
<div class="long_string"> 戰爭或叛亂發生,對於全國或某一地域應施行戒嚴時,總統得經行政院會議之議決,立法院之通過,依本法宣告戒嚴或使宣告之。總統於情勢緊急時,得經行政院之呈請,依本法宣告戒嚴或使宣告之。但應於一個月內提交立法院追認,在立法院休會期間,應於復會時即提交追認。</span></div>
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<div class="long_string"><span style="color:#008000">ㄟ戒嚴不是說要叛亂或戰爭嗎?白痴嗎,KMT說恐怖攻擊是戰爭就是戰爭啊,說ISIS背後就是XXX他們不是最會了?這時候還需要國會,也就是立委的追認,請問在那個全台灣恐懼的當下,你認為哪個立委敢擋戒嚴令?</div>
「我認為這只是ISIS小規模誘導攻擊,不需要戒嚴令」
幹,這立委馬上就在新聞被幹爆好了嗎?幹爆之後戒嚴就過了。中共就可以趁這個機會派軍隊來台灣「協防」了你知道嗎?
你知道嗎?知道嗎?知道嗎?</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">不知道,你只想到你自己。</span>
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<span style="color:#F00000">補兩個Link參考一下,第一個是台灣反恐系統有多薄弱,看一下</span>
<span style="color:#0000F0">《捷運持刀殺人事件-感嘆我們曾經有十幾年的時間準備反恐系統》</span>
<a href="https://facebook.com/10152140152826630" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://facebook.com/10152140152826630</a>
<span style="color:#0000F0">《台灣軍警戰術研究發展協會》專業協會</span>
<a href="http://ttrda.org/?cat=22" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ttrda.org/?cat=22</a>
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<span style="color:#008000">好了,恐怖故事講完了,
<div class="long_string">什麼?有這麼可怕嗎?其實我覺得沒有,因為距今到1/16選舉其實剩不到2個月,我覺得中共就算有這樣的想法,但以他們的執行效率,再加上ISIS,我不認為他們這麼迅速就可以接到中共的指令、擬定計畫並來到台灣開始佯攻,所以各位放心。</span></div>
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<span style="color:#008000">ㄟ,對啊,沒這麼可怕,因為1/16選完就好了
讓我們繼續關心KMT想偷渡貨貿吧
選對的立委才是最重要的</span>
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<span style="color:#F00000">幹,睡了一個午覺醒來,才驚覺馬英九的任期是到2016/5/20。
而不是1/16啊!</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">為了避免中國網軍騷擾發文者,目前不便貼上文章來源!</span>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: saklove1 時間: 2015-11-25 17:54:23</span></div></pre>
jum1223
台南與各地方的風力! 放假標準?
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8Z7g
2015-09-29T08:45:46+08:00
2015-09-29T08:47:55+08:00
這是我只覺得台南市與各地方評定的放假有不同嗎? 整個無言!
請問我什麼時間可以處理積水容器! 算了蚊子而已? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;">這是我只覺得台南市與各地方評定的放假有不同嗎? 整個無言!
請問我什麼時間可以處理積水容器! 算了蚊子而已?
<div class="img" data-ori_w="554" data-ori_h="1024" style="width:554px;height:1024px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/LO494sxh.png" alt="[圖]" /></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: jum1223 時間: 2015-09-29 08:47:55</span>
</div></pre>
eddiechung
蘋果新聞_這什麼「藍」課本 文具大亂鬥諷課綱爭議 反課綱!
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8Was
2015-09-02T16:20:22+08:00
2015-09-02T16:20:22+08:00
暑假畫下尾聲,各級學校明日開學,但反課綱爭議仍未宣告落幕。影像製作公司「Frf找稻田」自製短片「開學了!這什麼藍課本!」,諷刺開學在即,但課本內容並未與反課綱學生達成共識,仍然是在國民黨所主導的版本。
影片中以學生們必備的藍筆做為主角,將歷史英文History改為KMTstory,諷刺在國民黨政府主導下,歷史課本仍然是國民黨版本,因此上演了一場文具大戰。而「藍營」即使在筆數相等的情況之下,仍然擁有較大的火力支援,讓反對方仍然無法對抗遭到斷頭。最後還諷刺地用藍筆拼成國民黨黨徽標誌,以及黑筆組成教育部長吳思華翻白眼的模樣。(即時新聞中心/綜合報導)
新聞傳送門 http://m.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20150830/681041/ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> eddiechung (lion)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 蘋果新聞_這什麼「藍」課本 文具大亂鬥諷課綱爭議 反課綱!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-09-02 Wed. 16:20:22</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="long_string">暑假畫下尾聲,各級學校明日開學,但反課綱爭議仍未宣告落幕。影像製作公司「Frf找稻田」自製短片「開學了!這什麼藍課本!」,諷刺開學在即,但課本內容並未與反課綱學生達成共識,仍然是在國民黨所主導的版本。</div>
<div class="long_string">影片中以學生們必備的藍筆做為主角,將歷史英文History改為KMTstory,諷刺在國民黨政府主導下,歷史課本仍然是國民黨版本,因此上演了一場文具大戰。而「藍營」即使在筆數相等的情況之下,仍然擁有較大的火力支援,讓反對方仍然無法對抗遭到斷頭。最後還諷刺地用藍筆拼成國民黨黨徽標誌,以及黑筆組成教育部長吳思華翻白眼的模樣。(即時新聞中心/綜合報導)</div>
新聞傳送門 <a href="http://m.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20150830/681041/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://m.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20150830/681041/</a>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: eddiechung 時間: 2015-09-02 16:20:22</span></div></pre>
wealth
[分享]免費講座 2015智慧城市x市長論壇
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8QJf
2015-07-22T14:30:57+08:00
2015-07-28T17:07:56+08:00
【免費講座】2015智慧城市x市長論壇
一起遇見智慧城市、市長的終極競爭力!
智慧城市,不再是未來想像,全球已有1000多個城市啟動智慧城市計畫,正在翻轉無效率的城市印象。
物聯網、大數據、雲端運算總匯流,正是縣市長的終極競爭力;你的家園,就是智慧城市。
《財訊雜誌》41週年慶,邀請您與市長們一起關注台灣、放眼世界、發現商機!
出席市長:台北市長 柯文哲
桃園市長 鄭文燦
台中市長 林佳龍
台南市長 賴清德
(新北市長、高雄市長邀約中~)
詳細內容:http://www.wealth.com.tw/class_in.aspx?nid=40
講座時間:2015年8月12日(三) 14:30 ~16:30
講座地點:福華文教會館 卓越堂(台北市新生南路三段30號2樓)
活動網址:http://www.wealth.com.tw/41st/#firstPage
報名網址:http://www.wealth.com.tw/signup.aspx?nid=40
*席位有限,請盡速報名! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> wealth (財訊)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [分享]免費講座 2015智慧城市x市長論壇<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-07-22 Wed. 14:30:57</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<div class="img" data-ori_w="800" data-ori_h="405" style="width:800px;height:405px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/FqIYUPb.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>
【免費講座】2015智慧城市x市長論壇
一起遇見智慧城市、市長的終極競爭力!
智慧城市,不再是未來想像,全球已有1000多個城市啟動智慧城市計畫,正在翻轉無效率的城市印象。
物聯網、大數據、雲端運算總匯流,正是縣市長的終極競爭力;你的家園,就是智慧城市。
《財訊雜誌》41週年慶,邀請您與市長們一起關注台灣、放眼世界、發現商機!
出席市長:台北市長 柯文哲
桃園市長 鄭文燦
台中市長 林佳龍
台南市長 賴清德
(新北市長、高雄市長邀約中~)
詳細內容:<a href="http://www.wealth.com.tw/class_in.aspx?nid=40" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wealth.com.tw/class_in.aspx?nid=40</a>
講座時間:2015年8月12日(三) 14:30 ~16:30
講座地點:福華文教會館 卓越堂(台北市新生南路三段30號2樓)
活動網址:<a href="http://www.wealth.com.tw/41st/#firstPage" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wealth.com.tw/41st/#firstPage</a>
報名網址:<a href="http://www.wealth.com.tw/signup.aspx?nid=40" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wealth.com.tw/signup.aspx?nid=40</a>
*席位有限,請盡速報名!
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<span class="record">※ 作者: wealth 時間: 2015-07-22 14:30:57</span>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: wealth 時間: 2015-07-28 17:07:55</span></div></pre>
starsky_99
基隆老人從齒幸福
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8OVJ
2015-07-08T17:29:33+08:00
2015-07-08T17:29:33+08:00
幸福從「齒」開始-基隆市104年老人假牙補助
隨人口結構改變,老年人口占的比例逐年攀升。為因應高齡化社會來臨,及推動高齡友善健康城市之願景,恢復老人牙齒咀嚼功能,促進口腔衛生保健,基隆市政府本年度編列6,800萬元預算,補助弱勢老人裝置活動假牙,自4月16日起已邁入新制,使老人有更健康之生活。 補助條件全國最優、最快 凡設籍居住本市滿三年,年滿65歲以上長者或原住民年滿55歲以上;其上(下)顎健康齒三齒以下者,均可至戶籍所在地區公所開立證明書提出申請裝置活動式假牙。各區公所均設有申辦老人假牙專責窗口及志工引導,只要出示身分證,等候約五分鐘,就能立即拿到申請證明。為體恤長者,證明書的開立不限定本人親自辦理,家人或里長均可代為至區公所申請;並以上下顎各一次補助2萬元、全口一次補助4萬元等方式辦理,補助條件為全國最優厚。
申請案一旦審核通過,市府社會處將立即函知申請的長者前往各特約醫療院所裝置活動式假牙,市府也要求特約的醫療院所應於2至3週內完成假牙的裝置作業,避免積案讓民眾苦等。 完成活動式假牙裝置後,市民免先支付申請補助之款項,該款項由市府逕撥付就診之醫療院所即可。特約醫療 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> starsky_99 (Q媽)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 基隆老人從齒幸福<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-07-08 Wed. 17:29:33</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
<strong><span style="font-size:48px;line-height:100%">幸福從「齒」開始-基隆市104年老人假牙補助</span></strong>
<div class="long_string"> 隨人口結構改變,老年人口占的比例逐年攀升。為因應高齡化社會來臨,及推動高齡友善健康城市之願景,恢復老人牙齒咀嚼功能,促進口腔衛生保健,基隆市政府本年度<span style="color:#F00000">編列6,800萬元預算,補助弱勢老人裝置活動假牙</span>,自4月16日起已邁入新制,使老人有更健康之生活。 補助條件全國最優、最快 凡設籍居住本市滿三年,年滿65歲以上長者或原住民年滿55歲以上;其上(下)顎健康齒三齒以下者,均可至戶籍所在地區公所開立證明書提出申請裝置活動式假牙。各區公所均設有申辦老人假牙專責窗口及志工引導,只要出示身分證,等候約五分鐘,就能立即拿到申請證明。為體恤長者,證明書的開立不限定本人親自辦理,家人或里長均可代為至區公所申請;並<span style="color:#F00000">以上下顎各一次補助2萬元、全口一次補助4萬元等方式辦理,補助條件為全國最優厚。</span></div>
<div class="long_string"> 申請案一旦審核通過,市府社會處將立即函知申請的長者前往各特約醫療院所裝置活動式假牙,市府也要求特約的醫療院所應於2至3週內完成假牙的裝置作業,避免積案讓民眾苦等。 完成活動式假牙裝置後,市民免先支付申請補助之款項,該款項由市府逕撥付就診之醫療院所即可。特約醫療院所也會提供一年的術後服務,讓長者們能夠隨時回診進行假牙的調整,提供市民舒適、滿意的服務。 </div>
「幸福從齒開始」專案希望讓老人家雖然高齡,但也能樂齡,甚至因為恢復了咀嚼功能而逆齡。歡迎符合資格的市民踴躍提出申請!
<span style="color:#F0F000">更多→<a href="http://www.klcgamore.com.tw/news_detail.asp?UID=13" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.klcgamore.com.tw/news_detail.asp?UID=13</a></span>
<span class="fgW0 bgR">訂閱《魅力基隆》電子報,並分享文章就有機會獲得千元禮劵或人氣伴手禮!
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<span class="record">※ 作者: starsky_99 時間: 2015-07-08 17:29:33</span></div></pre>
x790799
蔡正元竟然直接提議反廢死的公投
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8Le3
2015-06-14T08:39:09+08:00
2015-06-14T08:39:09+08:00
蔡正元FB:https://www.facebook.com/tsaichengyuan
另一個想辦公投的粉絲頁:https://www.facebook.com/pages/用公投決定死刑無期鞭刑所有人一起承擔/1629782317269974
蔡正元先生到底是怎樣?
還沒修正錯誤一堆的公投法就想趁機搞公投是吧?!
反廢死難道是唯一選項?是怎樣?我懷疑跟反廢死聯
盟有掛勾,不然為什麼只有廢死,應該連無期徒刑
鞭刑都要列入公投吧,不然公投那麼一件大事,就
要決定廢死與死之間,那我們幹嘛要嘛新加坡做比
較,就是為了進步我們的法律,幹嘛要讓一個已經
快要凋零的國家更加悽慘,萬一真的反廢死一通過
結果大量的無差別殺人事件產生要該怎麼辦?
你蔡正元先生要把過錯推給公投嗎?
你如果是男人,刀給你自己解決吧 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> x790799 (未來國家的統治者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 蔡正元竟然直接提議反廢死的公投<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015-06-14 Sun. 08:39:09</div><hr color="#008080" />───────────────────
蔡正元FB:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/tsaichengyuan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/tsaichengyuan</a>
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蔡正元先生到底是怎樣?
還沒修正錯誤一堆的公投法就想趁機搞公投是吧?!
反廢死難道是唯一選項?是怎樣?我懷疑跟反廢死聯
盟有掛勾,不然為什麼只有廢死,應該連無期徒刑
鞭刑都要列入公投吧,不然公投那麼一件大事,就
要決定廢死與死之間,那我們幹嘛要嘛新加坡做比
較,就是為了進步我們的法律,幹嘛要讓一個已經
快要凋零的國家更加悽慘,萬一真的反廢死一通過
結果大量的無差別殺人事件產生要該怎麼辦?
你蔡正元先生要把過錯推給公投嗎?
你如果是男人,刀給你自己解決吧
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">chaosc</span><span style="color:#808000">:故意惡搞吧!國民黨輸了以後為了出氣,弄一些奇奇怪怪的東西。</span></div></pre>
minwoo0208
自閉症家長真情流露的心裡話
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8F6e
2015-04-30T16:04:18+08:00
2015-04-30T16:04:18+08:00
https://www.facebook.com/ICanASD/videos/952446711453974/
希望可以幫忙他們轉發~
幫助弱勢的自閉症族群
如果能立足夠 他們也能訂購饅頭
訂購電話 0225993803 愛肯樂活工場 ...]]>
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希望可以幫忙他們轉發~
幫助弱勢的自閉症族群
如果能立足夠 他們也能訂購饅頭
訂購電話 0225993803 愛肯樂活工場
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SmokingFrog.
Re: [問卦] 韓國歷史最強盛朝代的八卦了?
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作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)
在17世紀,巴布拉族與巴布薩族、巴則海族、洪雅族、道卡斯族在中台灣已成立大肚王國
http://www.ianthro.tw/p/64
中研院民族所數位典藏
作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)
一六六四年(永曆十八年、清康熙三年)三月鄭經失去大陸後來台,又永曆帝業已被弒,乃
謹守藩封,廢東都,以「東寧」稱全台灣,並以「東寧國王」自稱,但仍然使用「招討大將
軍」的印信,「永曆」年號,在與凊廷大臣明珠的書信中,也也自稱「建國東寧」。外國文書
稱他為「台灣王」「 The king of Tyawan ( Taiwan ) 」,這是台灣史上漢人建建立的第
一個王朝。
http://www.taiwanus.net/history/2/28.htm
東寧王國、台灣王
作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)
11月27日,台灣臨時國民會議通過〈台灣共和國臨時政府組織條約〉,依此條例,台灣臨時
國民會議遂於1956年1月15日改為「台灣共 ...]]>
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時間: Thu Apr 9 00:59:53 2015
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分,搞清楚好嗎</span></div>
<span style="color:#F0F000">在17世紀,巴布拉族與巴布薩族、巴則海族、洪雅族、道卡斯族在中台灣已成立大肚王國</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000"><a href="http://www.ianthro.tw/p/64" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ianthro.tw/p/64</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.ianthro.tw/p/64" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>中研院民族所數位典藏</strong></a></div></div>
</div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分,搞清楚好嗎</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">一六六四年(永曆十八年、清康熙三年)三月鄭經失去大陸後來台,又永曆帝業已被弒,乃</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">謹守藩封,廢東都,以「東寧」稱全台灣,並以「東寧國王」自稱,但仍然使用「招討大將</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF">軍」的印信,「永曆」年號,在與凊廷大臣明珠的書信中,<span style="color:#F00000">也自稱「建國東寧」。外國文書</span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F00000">稱他為「台灣王」「 The king of Tyawan ( Taiwan ) 」,這是台灣史上漢人<span style="color:#FFF">建立的第</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">一個王朝。</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000"><a href="http://www.taiwanus.net/history/2/28.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.taiwanus.net/history/2/28.htm</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.taiwanus.net/history/2/28.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>東寧王國、台灣王 </strong></a></div></div>
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<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分,搞清楚好嗎</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">11月27日,台灣臨時國民會議通過〈台灣共和國臨時政府組織條約〉,依此條例,台灣臨時</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">國民會議遂於1956年1月15日改為「台灣共和國臨時國民會議」。1956年廖文毅等人聯合簡</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">文介的「台灣自由獨立黨」,於2月28日二二八事件九週年時,宣布台灣共和國臨時政府正</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">式成立於日本東京。</span>
<span style="color:#FFF"><a href="http://goo.gl/FddHLM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/FddHLM</a></span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E5%85%B1%E5%92%8C%E5%9C%8B%E8%87%A8%E6%99%82%E6%94%BF%E5%BA%9C" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>台灣共和國臨時政府 - 維基百科,自由的百科全書</strong></a>
<a href="http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E5%85%B1%E5%92%8C%E5%9C%8B%E8%87%A8%E6%99%82%E6%94%BF%E5%BA%9C" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="125" data-ori_h="83" style="width:125px;height:83px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia_commons_thumb_c_ca_Flag_of_Blue_Ground_White_Sun_and_Moon.svg_125px-Flag_of_Blue_Ground_White_Sun_and_Moon.svg.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a>台灣共和國臨時政府是從事台灣獨立運動的一個政治組織,於1956年在日本東京由台灣留美博士廖文毅主導成立[1],一直到1977年宣告結束,是1950年代中期、乃至1960年代初期最重要的一個海外台獨運動組織之一。 ...</div></div> </div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分,搞清楚好嗎</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">孫中山</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">1925年(民國14年),《孫中山與臺灣》:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">「在臺灣的中國同胞被日本壓迫,我們必須鼓吹臺灣獨立,和高麗的獨立運動互相」。</span>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">蔣中正</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">1938年(民國27年)4月,《抗日戰爭與本黨前途》:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">「總理以為,我們必須使高麗、臺灣恢復獨立自由,才能鞏固中華民國的國防」。</span>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">毛澤東</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">1936年7月1日,《紅星照耀中國》:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">「如果朝鮮人民希望掙脫日本帝國主義者的枷鎖,我們熱烈支持他們爭取獨立的戰</span>
<span style="color:#FFF"> 這點同樣適用於臺灣」。</span>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">周恩來</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">1941年1月5日,《民族至上與國家至上》:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">「我們同情民族國家的獨立解放運動,我們不只協助朝鮮與臺灣,也同情印度與南</span>
<span style="color:#FFF"> 國的民族解放運動」。</span>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL"> 作者 nckualanptt (成大山下智久)</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgL">: 你的論點太好笑了,台灣從來都不是國家啊!歷史上台灣就是中國的一部分</span></div>
<span style="color:#FFF">乾隆九年(1744年)版本的「臺灣府建置沿革」中有一段文字敘述:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">臺灣自古荒服之地,不通中國,名曰東番。明天啟中,為紅毛荷蘭夷人所據,<span style="color:#F00000">屬於日本<span style="color:#FFF">。</span></span></span>
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<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">第一個特色是很會搞分裂與鬥爭又愛攀附關係與認親。</span></span>
<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">第二個特色是瞧不起<span style="color:#00F000">外國人<span style="color:#FFF">、也瞧不起<span style="color:#0000F0">自己人<span style="color:#FFF">。</span></span></span></span></span></span>
<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">第三個特色是很矛盾,<span style="color:#F0F000">不肯面對現實與歷史真相<span style="color:#FFF">。</span></span></span></span>
<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">第四個特色是有<span style="color:#F0F000">受虐狂<span style="color:#FFF">,<span style="color:#0000F0">國<span style="color:#F00000">共<span style="color:#FFF">兩黨虐待<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">所以受到<span style="color:#F00000">中國<span style="color:#FFF">人的擁戴、</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>
<span style="color:#00F000">民進黨<span style="color:#FFF">沒有虐待<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">所以被<span style="color:#F00000">中國人<span style="color:#FFF">討厭</span></span></span></span></span></span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">yhnmju</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那人一直發明新歷史 太强大了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">crinch</span><span style="color:#808000">:真是要跪拜了!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">neversky</span><span style="color:#808000">:別再打了... 臉都看不出是臉啦 要變肉燥了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chien533</span><span style="color:#808000">:從成大山下智久被打臉打成成大山下智障了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">MenthaTW</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣民主國根本感覺只是在騙. :(</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ioj9</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那人只配永遠給共產黨統治 不配當家做主</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">Kotetsu</span><span style="color:#808000">:臉都被打凹了,別再打了XDD</span>
讚 playgamenow:nckualanptt(成大山下智久)的臉好腫 XDD
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那畜就是個低能的M</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hugo1974</span><span style="color:#808000">:你少寫一個台灣民主國……</span>
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lfv0427
【情報】立台之鹿 DeerFormosa「青年入政」
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8wmn
2015-03-02T23:15:09+08:00
2015-03-02T23:15:09+08:00
主講人:薛呈懿議員 & 何志偉議員
主辦單位:福爾摩鯊會社
日期:2015 年 3 月 4 日 (星期三)
時間:19:30 - 21:30
地點:達迷酒坊 (台北市中山區松江路25巷5號)
台灣社會的年輕人長久以來對政治事務冷漠。
但從去年三月太陽花運動到年底的九合一選舉,
這之間發生的許多政治事件與社會事件,
都刺激越來越多台灣年輕人
更加關心政治與我們的土地,
也更加關心自己以及台灣的未來。
薛呈懿在九合一大選首次投入選舉,
成功選上宜蘭縣縣議員,
同時更是全國最年輕的新科議員。
何志偉挾著年輕優勢與人氣,
也在台北市的士林北投區二度脫穎而出。
兩位都曾在太陽花運動期間到場聲援,
腳踏實地了解年輕世代對於政治改革的渴求,
也都在各自的家鄉將這股能量匯入體制內進行改變。
兩位議員的勝選也代表年輕世代逐漸在地方政治舞台嶄露頭角。
活動連結:http://goo.gl/tYXeU4 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> lfv0427 (新菜鳥使用者)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 【情報】立台之鹿 DeerFormosa「青年入政」<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015年03月02日 Mon. PM 11:15:09</div><hr color="#008080" />
主講人:薛呈懿議員 & 何志偉議員
主辦單位:福爾摩鯊會社
日期:2015 年 3 月 4 日 (星期三)
時間:19:30 - 21:30
地點:達迷酒坊 (台北市中山區松江路25巷5號)
台灣社會的年輕人長久以來對政治事務冷漠。
但從去年三月太陽花運動到年底的九合一選舉,
這之間發生的許多政治事件與社會事件,
都刺激越來越多台灣年輕人
更加關心政治與我們的土地,
也更加關心自己以及台灣的未來。
薛呈懿在九合一大選首次投入選舉,
成功選上宜蘭縣縣議員,
同時更是全國最年輕的新科議員。
何志偉挾著年輕優勢與人氣,
也在台北市的士林北投區二度脫穎而出。
兩位都曾在太陽花運動期間到場聲援,
腳踏實地了解年輕世代對於政治改革的渴求,
也都在各自的家鄉將這股能量匯入體制內進行改變。
兩位議員的勝選也代表年輕世代逐漸在地方政治舞台嶄露頭角。
活動連結:<a href="http://goo.gl/tYXeU4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/tYXeU4</a>
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Dcei.
Re: [問卦] 中視網路酸辣湯的八卦
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8vNQ
2015-02-26T17:32:32+08:00
2015-03-01T10:18:45+08:00
沒看過這節目,不過不意外
我來放一張圖給各位看
這是從在K黨當官的老人電腦裡挖到的公文
http://imgur.com/crnhPPn
嗯... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Dcei (ieCD)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問卦] 中視網路酸辣湯的八卦<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Feb 26 17:32:32 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《kymco9999 ()》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 中視有個節目,叫網路酸辣湯</span>
<span class="quote">: 主持人陳鳳馨、唐湘龍</span>
<span class="quote">: 幾乎天天酸柯文哲,是不是有仇啊</span>
<span class="quote">: 底下網友的評論更是酸溜溜</span>
<span class="quote">: 有沒有中視網路酸辣湯的八掛?</span>
沒看過這節目,不過不意外
我來放一張圖給各位看
這是從在K黨當官的老人電腦裡挖到的公文
<a href="http://imgur.com/crnhPPn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/crnhPPn</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/crnhPPn" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="161" data-ori_h="81" style="width:161px;height:81px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/crnhPPn.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
嗯...
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/t77133562003/push?y=15" target="_blank">t77133562003</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這三小XDDD很多人該去收錢了</span><span class="push-right">40F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hot8899/push?y=15" target="_blank">hot8899</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">41F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dichotomyptt/push?y=15" target="_blank">dichotomyptt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板XD</span><span class="push-right">42F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hahahi/push?y=15" target="_blank">hahahi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你娘kmt眼裡永遠只有藍綠</span><span class="push-right">43F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/salvador1988/push?y=15" target="_blank">salvador1988</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正晶限時批和新聞追追追快來抄喔!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">44F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoyo2479975/push?y=15" target="_blank">yoyo2479975</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 有政黑板耶</span><span class="push-right">45F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leonian/push?y=15" target="_blank">leonian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哇! 好猛!!! 這記者不會報啦只會報相親文</span><span class="push-right">46F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CYmphony/push?y=15" target="_blank">CYmphony</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">47F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 各種噁心</span><span class="push-right">48F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nh75/push?y=15" target="_blank">nh75</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爆</span><span class="push-right">49F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chan324/push?y=15" target="_blank">chan324</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">50F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/turbomons/push?y=15" target="_blank">turbomons</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板 XDD</span><span class="push-right">51F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ivan609/push?y=15" target="_blank">ivan609</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 婉君們 上啊!!!</span><span class="push-right">52F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aCCQ/push?y=15" target="_blank">aCCQ</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 為甚麼不說與PTT或是與PTT八卦版&政黑版 就只說了個政黑版</span><span class="push-right">53F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Zawar379/push?y=15" target="_blank">Zawar379</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑不意外XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">54F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/albert1229/push?y=15" target="_blank">albert1229</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈~~KMT有夠弱智</span><span class="push-right">55F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shinbird/push?y=15" target="_blank">shinbird</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 關鍵字:政黑、白色正義聯盟、新黨青年軍.......</span><span class="push-right">56F 02/26 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ascii/push?y=15" target="_blank">ascii</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 想到某個經典的政黑水桶簽名檔......</span><span class="push-right">57F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leonian/push?y=15" target="_blank">leonian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 糞坑被點名了耶 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">58F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jcto04/push?y=15" target="_blank">jcto04</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 起風啦!~~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">59F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/josh24311/push?y=15" target="_blank">josh24311</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦</span><span class="push-right">60F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/finzaghi/push?y=15" target="_blank">finzaghi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">61F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jet113102/push?y=15" target="_blank">jet113102</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹這真的假的XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">62F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sakaizawa/push?y=15" target="_blank">sakaizawa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看了這兩點 我要鄭重跟中國黨說掰掰 你們還是狀況外</span><span class="push-right">63F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fugax/push?y=15" target="_blank">Fugax</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑XDDDDD,難怪那裡怪談一堆</span><span class="push-right">64F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dichotomyptt/push?y=15" target="_blank">dichotomyptt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨板表示崩潰</span><span class="push-right">65F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/higameboy/push?y=15" target="_blank">higameboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">66F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT黨外真的沒有人才 其實令人安心 有人會去看酸辣湯???</span><span class="push-right">67F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: kmt眼裡永遠只有藍綠 沒有人民 +1</span><span class="push-right">68F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/h70575/push?y=15" target="_blank">h70575</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!!</span><span class="push-right">69F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kis28519/push?y=15" target="_blank">kis28519</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八掛歸位!!!</span><span class="push-right">70F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT=歷史名詞</span><span class="push-right">71F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/katsumi32/push?y=15" target="_blank">katsumi32</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 太噁爛了</span><span class="push-right">72F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chris920309/push?y=15" target="_blank">chris920309</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 被抓到了嗎 呵呵</span><span class="push-right">73F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yeyun/push?y=15" target="_blank">yeyun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蠻好笑的XDD</span><span class="push-right">74F 02/26 17:39</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">hssz</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 HatePolitics</span> 02/26 17:40</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HETARE/push?y=15" target="_blank">HETARE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ...2016繼續輸吧你們</span><span class="push-right">75F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/noworneverev/push?y=15" target="_blank">noworneverev</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">76F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lariat/push?y=15" target="_blank">lariat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PTT正黑板 ~~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">77F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/salvador1988/push?y=15" target="_blank">salvador1988</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這個爛黨到現在還不清醒耶 真的嫌票太多</span><span class="push-right">78F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a2156700/push?y=15" target="_blank">a2156700</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒救了</span><span class="push-right">79F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oscar721/push?y=15" target="_blank">oscar721</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">80F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyougoku/push?y=15" target="_blank">kyougoku</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 已右鍵</span><span class="push-right">81F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hxhjerry/push?y=15" target="_blank">hxhjerry</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 糞坑版是友軍XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">82F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JoeyChen/push?y=15" target="_blank">JoeyChen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛</span><span class="push-right">83F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nomorepipe/push?y=15" target="_blank">nomorepipe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有你的洨禮物!!</span><span class="push-right">84F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iWatch5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">iWatch5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾KMT一定要讓它倒</span><span class="push-right">85F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/idlewolf/push?y=15" target="_blank">idlewolf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有八掛給推 另外KMT還是腦袋石化中 沒救了...</span><span class="push-right">86F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andrewyllee/push?y=15" target="_blank">andrewyllee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 天啊這怎麼辦到的@@"</span><span class="push-right">87F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Fari/push?y=15" target="_blank">Fari</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">88F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serval623/push?y=15" target="_blank">serval623</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 學運咖講再多,狗民黨支持者還是覺得你們是綠的</span><span class="push-right">89F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/urdie/push?y=15" target="_blank">urdie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍 政黑士氣 Level up~~~~~~~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">90F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 代表他們從來就沒有改變過 也放棄改變的契機 跟2.0一樣</span><span class="push-right">91F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andy02/push?y=15" target="_blank">andy02</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒有很意外ㄟ 就同一陣營的阿~</span><span class="push-right">92F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hedonic/push?y=15" target="_blank">hedonic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超八卦 難怪青年軍自稱網路鄉民 政黑去死</span><span class="push-right">93F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoshro/push?y=15" target="_blank">yoshro</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 該去政黑版掛名應徵500了嗎</span><span class="push-right">94F 02/26 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dcei/push?y=15" target="_blank">Dcei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不會回水球 板主要m請便</span><span class="push-right">95F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dichotomyptt/push?y=15" target="_blank">dichotomyptt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好像轉政黑哦</span><span class="push-right">96F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zane21/push?y=15" target="_blank">zane21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 學不乖</span><span class="push-right">97F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Alanovel/push?y=15" target="_blank">Alanovel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果然是真心以為公民團體=民進黨欸…</span><span class="push-right">98F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ejoy7981/push?y=15" target="_blank">ejoy7981</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: kmt fkkk</span><span class="push-right">99F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DampierFor3/push?y=15" target="_blank">DampierFor3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 都沒穿褲子,難怪是友軍</span><span class="push-right">100F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/alan5/push?y=15" target="_blank">alan5</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 狗改不了吃屎 KMT</span><span class="push-right">101F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 清醒離他們很遙遠</span><span class="push-right">102F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linph/push?y=15" target="_blank">linph</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">103F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/crossdunk/push?y=15" target="_blank">crossdunk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">104F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/se2422/push?y=15" target="_blank">se2422</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT還是不懂原因在那 還是倒掉吧</span><span class="push-right">105F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jackboy772/push?y=15" target="_blank">jackboy772</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 顆顆</span><span class="push-right">106F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elle/push?y=15" target="_blank">elle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 喔喔</span><span class="push-right">107F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andreas022/push?y=15" target="_blank">andreas022</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有卦有推啊</span><span class="push-right">108F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FrankB/push?y=15" target="_blank">FrankB</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: kmt沒救了</span><span class="push-right">109F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/suPerFlyK/push?y=15" target="_blank">suPerFlyK</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有八卦 給推</span><span class="push-right">110F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a12345x/push?y=15" target="_blank">a12345x</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 快點爆</span><span class="push-right">111F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coffee777/push?y=15" target="_blank">coffee777</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 打手</span><span class="push-right">112F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Kay731/push?y=15" target="_blank">Kay731</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛喔</span><span class="push-right">113F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bingchang/push?y=15" target="_blank">bingchang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有八卦~</span><span class="push-right">114F 02/26 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/atobela/push?y=15" target="_blank">atobela</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹這超屌der</span><span class="push-right">115F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xul327/push?y=15" target="_blank">xul327</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 嗯 有八卦 政黑果然領500的很多 XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">116F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XWSL/push?y=15" target="_blank">XWSL</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 快倒~~~~~~!~!~!!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~</span><span class="push-right">117F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linph/push?y=15" target="_blank">linph</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難怪姚立明說上課沒用</span><span class="push-right">118F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mikazeray/push?y=15" target="_blank">mikazeray</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爛到沒藥醫</span><span class="push-right">119F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovelibear/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovelibear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 挖真八卦</span><span class="push-right">120F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/salvador1988/push?y=15" target="_blank">salvador1988</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不知是馬還是朱主導的 如果是朱 這個黨還是被淘汰吧</span><span class="push-right">121F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Davil0130/push?y=15" target="_blank">Davil0130</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 糞坑版是友軍,感覺還要舉個「糞」字大旗吶喊一下</span><span class="push-right">122F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kktt254/push?y=15" target="_blank">kktt254</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不意外</span><span class="push-right">123F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jason000/push?y=15" target="_blank">jason000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: wwwwwww</span><span class="push-right">124F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jimmysts/push?y=15" target="_blank">jimmysts</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">125F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jimmy00520/push?y=15" target="_blank">jimmy00520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 呵呵 開戰囉</span><span class="push-right">126F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/realgenius/push?y=15" target="_blank">realgenius</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有人知道這節目收視率到底多少嗎????</span><span class="push-right">127F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sinahjo/push?y=15" target="_blank">sinahjo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDdDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">128F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kimo0211/push?y=15" target="_blank">kimo0211</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 加強和PTT政黑板的合作</span><span class="push-right">129F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/junjun1116/push?y=15" target="_blank">junjun1116</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">130F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/james732/push?y=15" target="_blank">james732</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推八卦</span><span class="push-right">131F 02/26 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kahlenchung/push?y=15" target="_blank">kahlenchung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫高調</span><span class="push-right">132F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/On1y/push?y=15" target="_blank">On1y</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww</span><span class="push-right">133F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Alubasong/push?y=15" target="_blank">Alubasong</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">134F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ab32110/push?y=15" target="_blank">ab32110</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推八卦</span><span class="push-right">135F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eco100/push?y=15" target="_blank">eco100</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還敢提PTT政黑版? 那邊現在都一堆反串的 他們不知道嗎</span><span class="push-right">136F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatjoe/push?y=15" target="_blank">fatjoe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ...跟政黑合作 請快點</span><span class="push-right">137F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guoja/push?y=15" target="_blank">guoja</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好棒棒</span><span class="push-right">138F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/realgenius/push?y=15" target="_blank">realgenius</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這不用高調吧, 不是大家心知肚明嗎XD</span><span class="push-right">139F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mickey780214/push?y=15" target="_blank">mickey780214</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: push</span><span class="push-right">140F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/taichungking/push?y=15" target="_blank">taichungking</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果然政黑都是領500的</span><span class="push-right">141F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 他們真的不懂 老人思維改不掉 歷史學家已經摩拳擦掌</span><span class="push-right">142F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keny/push?y=15" target="_blank">keny</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 脫離民意的政黨</span><span class="push-right">143F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/milker/push?y=15" target="_blank">milker</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只要不藍就什麼都是綠的 低能</span><span class="push-right">144F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kunyiwang/push?y=15" target="_blank">kunyiwang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推!!!</span><span class="push-right">145F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LICENSE/push?y=15" target="_blank">LICENSE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板被認證惹XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">146F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/st264201/push?y=15" target="_blank">st264201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 記者快抄啊!有卦</span><span class="push-right">147F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aodn/push?y=15" target="_blank">aodn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 豬油快來爆!!</span><span class="push-right">148F 02/26 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/On1y/push?y=15" target="_blank">On1y</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 拜託快合作!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">149F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pas796210/push?y=15" target="_blank">pas796210</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一個政黨只對跟人民對著幹,被唾棄也是剛好而已</span><span class="push-right">150F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/r107620966/push?y=15" target="_blank">r107620966</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍勢力結盟 但政黑都被攻破了 能取暖嗎</span><span class="push-right">151F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/userpeter/push?y=15" target="_blank">userpeter</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">152F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dtonesla/push?y=15" target="_blank">dtonesla</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調~</span><span class="push-right">153F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ymx3xc/push?y=15" target="_blank">ymx3xc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 沒救了 WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW</span><span class="push-right">154F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/IBURNER/push?y=15" target="_blank">IBURNER</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 挖靠咧 這也太扯= =</span><span class="push-right">155F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/birdbaby/push?y=15" target="_blank">birdbaby</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這是公文???好像不太符合體例</span><span class="push-right">156F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 糞坑板是反指標耶 中視XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">157F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 如果有一千幾百個政黑版可能還有點用處 可惜只有一個</span><span class="push-right">158F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acer758219/push?y=15" target="_blank">acer758219</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">159F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ckpioneer/push?y=15" target="_blank">ckpioneer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PTT政黑板 友軍 XDDDDD 確定不是豬隊友?</span><span class="push-right">160F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hyjoly/push?y=15" target="_blank">hyjoly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不意外</span><span class="push-right">161F 02/26 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g9591410/push?y=15" target="_blank">g9591410</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑1129之後只能反串了XDD</span><span class="push-right">162F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Crazyfire/push?y=15" target="_blank">Crazyfire</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">163F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Poke5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">Poke5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 已備份 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/JqidwvV.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/JqidwvV.jpg</a></span><span class="push-right">164F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/JqidwvV" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="161" data-ori_h="81" style="width:161px;height:81px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/JqidwvV.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/roy2142/push?y=15" target="_blank">roy2142</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">165F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoher/push?y=15" target="_blank">yoher</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">166F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victor33/push?y=15" target="_blank">victor33</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑死我了 這篇很快會被洗掉!</span><span class="push-right">167F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasion/push?y=15" target="_blank">kasion</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: o(>ω<)o</span><span class="push-right">168F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JBourne/push?y=15" target="_blank">JBourne</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 K當真的是垃圾黨</span><span class="push-right">169F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 50年前輸給共產黨的時候就是這副鳥樣</span><span class="push-right">170F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shadow5402/push?y=15" target="_blank">shadow5402</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 他們越糾結於藍綠越好。沒有學習能力自然會被淘汰</span><span class="push-right">171F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/taikonkimo/push?y=15" target="_blank">taikonkimo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以收視率根本不重要 反正金主很有錢</span><span class="push-right">172F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 整個PTT 就那個板是病畜 偏偏舉那個小板的聲音XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">173F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/galleon2000/push?y=15" target="_blank">galleon2000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">174F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ying0502/push?y=15" target="_blank">ying0502</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 跟政黑合作,快笑死XDDD</span><span class="push-right">175F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shadow5402/push?y=15" target="_blank">shadow5402</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 喔不,樓上說對了。他們是一向沒有學習能力。</span><span class="push-right">176F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/id/push?y=15" target="_blank">id</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調,果然是垃圾黨</span><span class="push-right">177F 02/26 17:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shadow5402/push?y=15" target="_blank">shadow5402</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一路走來,始終如一呢</span><span class="push-right">178F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lily80132/push?y=15" target="_blank">lily80132</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">179F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phooom0188/push?y=15" target="_blank">phooom0188</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ㄎ</span><span class="push-right">180F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/IceBoom/push?y=15" target="_blank">IceBoom</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: (((*° ▽° *)八(* ° ▽° *)))♪ 被發現了</span><span class="push-right">181F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JoeyChen/push?y=15" target="_blank">JoeyChen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 網路酸辣湯會不會對這掛進行再評論呢</span><span class="push-right">182F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shaunten/push?y=15" target="_blank">shaunten</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 點名政黑耶!</span><span class="push-right">183F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kinple/push?y=15" target="_blank">kinple</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDD 這</span><span class="push-right">184F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TaiyoYuden/push?y=15" target="_blank">TaiyoYuden</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">185F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/omoideomoi/push?y=15" target="_blank">omoideomoi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 要跟政黑結盟耶 根本是請鬼拿藥單</span><span class="push-right">186F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/drraujn/push?y=15" target="_blank">drraujn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這狗黨果然沒救了 國民黨不倒 台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">187F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoshiki78529/push?y=15" target="_blank">yoshiki78529</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 上次輸我覺得政黑多少也算戰犯之一</span><span class="push-right">188F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/agwolf11/push?y=15" target="_blank">agwolf11</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好掛好掛</span><span class="push-right">189F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Kay731/push?y=15" target="_blank">Kay731</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我來當黨主席都比朱強</span><span class="push-right">190F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bluejamielin/push?y=15" target="_blank">bluejamielin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中國電視台 真令人不意外</span><span class="push-right">191F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這個公文更顯得那些老人的智商XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">192F 02/26 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/skvis/push?y=15" target="_blank">skvis</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://imgur.com/rDZ705g" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/rDZ705g</a></span><span class="push-right">193F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/rDZ705g" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="161" data-ori_h="81" style="width:161px;height:81px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/rDZ705g.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamsafin/push?y=15" target="_blank">iamsafin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是沒有學習能力 但是統治中國+台灣幾百年 爽賺</span><span class="push-right">194F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: \天佑台灣/ \天佑台灣/ \天佑台灣/ \天佑台灣/ \天佑台灣</span><span class="push-right">195F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarrenKuo/push?y=15" target="_blank">DarrenKuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 強..</span><span class="push-right">196F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zeratulleo/push?y=15" target="_blank">zeratulleo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 從這些不要臉KMT的觀點只要是黨外都是綠的,噁心</span><span class="push-right">197F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ivansai/push?y=15" target="_blank">ivansai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 打手</span><span class="push-right">198F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/euphoria01/push?y=15" target="_blank">euphoria01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈 做啥都會被抓包kmt真是奇才</span><span class="push-right">199F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oopsmamamiya/push?y=15" target="_blank">oopsmamamiya</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 食古不化</span><span class="push-right">200F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/F5/push?y=15" target="_blank">F5</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 阿呆 用錢收買的網軍事贏得過鄉民嗎?</span><span class="push-right">201F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shark5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">shark5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">202F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoshiki78529/push?y=15" target="_blank">yoshiki78529</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 光說一堆屁話讓年輕人不爽就已經很蠢了</span><span class="push-right">203F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hyjoly/push?y=15" target="_blank">hyjoly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 其實最可怕的地方在 協助規劃~~~ 國黨真是有錢</span><span class="push-right">204F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ivan609/push?y=15" target="_blank">ivan609</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好想知道這個K黨老人是誰XDD</span><span class="push-right">205F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LAN620/push?y=15" target="_blank">LAN620</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 本末倒置 考試考不好竟然去檢討出題者 ....唉</span><span class="push-right">206F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/citycamo/push?y=15" target="_blank">citycamo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">207F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kasion/push?y=15" target="_blank">kasion</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: → Kay731: 我來當黨主席都比朱強</span><span class="push-right">208F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g9591410/push?y=15" target="_blank">g9591410</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 之前還認真上網軍課 現在...KMT到底知不知道輸在哪</span><span class="push-right">209F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Crauser/push?y=15" target="_blank">Crauser</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 顆顆</span><span class="push-right">210F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mmcat1991/push?y=15" target="_blank">mmcat1991</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到政黑我笑了</span><span class="push-right">211F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rbull/push?y=15" target="_blank">rbull</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑1129以前 那邊動不動就告人 超級恐怖</span><span class="push-right">212F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 要合作藍蛆很多的地方 其他論壇被藍蛆控制的地方</span><span class="push-right">213F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wxyz111/push?y=15" target="_blank">wxyz111</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不知反省kmt</span><span class="push-right">214F 02/26 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一堆資源集中在一個沒什麼屁用的政黨裡面只覺得悲哀</span><span class="push-right">215F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/reaturn/push?y=15" target="_blank">reaturn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你這張那來的阿XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">216F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tjtjtj/push?y=15" target="_blank">tjtjtj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板 他們確定沒搞錯?</span><span class="push-right">217F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CEO5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">CEO5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 隨便截一段就叫公文,用WORD打一打不就好了。</span><span class="push-right">218F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fastmonster/push?y=15" target="_blank">fastmonster</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 綠營壟斷XDDDDDD 政黑XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">219F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JKGOOD/push?y=15" target="_blank">JKGOOD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 平衡你妹…</span><span class="push-right">220F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zeqcx/push?y=15" target="_blank">zeqcx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強惹~~</span><span class="push-right">221F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yabition0411/push?y=15" target="_blank">yabition0411</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 被茶水錶了</span><span class="push-right">222F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AkumaII/push?y=15" target="_blank">AkumaII</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑翻了</span><span class="push-right">223F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/suzer/push?y=15" target="_blank">suzer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到友軍就笑了.怎會跟廢物結盟呢XD</span><span class="push-right">224F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linceass/push?y=15" target="_blank">linceass</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PTT政黑板 哈哈</span><span class="push-right">225F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dearjohn/push?y=15" target="_blank">dearjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 顆顆,已備份囉^^。</span><span class="push-right">226F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pondexter/push?y=15" target="_blank">pondexter</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還是堅持藍綠對決,這些k黨老人沒其他招了嗎?</span><span class="push-right">227F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 應該往那些深藍論壇合作吧! 笨得要命,要搞網軍也不會</span><span class="push-right">228F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elmotze/push?y=15" target="_blank">elmotze</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推爆</span><span class="push-right">229F 02/26 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Divya/push?y=15" target="_blank">Divya</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 紅的明顯 目前大量問卦湧現</span><span class="push-right">230F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pqma/push?y=15" target="_blank">pqma</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">231F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pray/push?y=15" target="_blank">pray</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只剩下政黑取暖的功能</span><span class="push-right">232F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OoJudyoO/push?y=15" target="_blank">OoJudyoO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨換了個2.0 還不是一樣低能</span><span class="push-right">233F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/crossdunk/push?y=15" target="_blank">crossdunk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 讓他爆阿 是不是真的 上了新聞後就知到了</span><span class="push-right">234F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AkumaII/push?y=15" target="_blank">AkumaII</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 的確很符合老K那種請人來上課的思考跟行為</span><span class="push-right">235F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vovzz/push?y=15" target="_blank">vovzz</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政...政黑板</span><span class="push-right">236F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fallen1/push?y=15" target="_blank">fallen1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 支那黨走狗永遠學不會</span><span class="push-right">237F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JGatsby/push?y=15" target="_blank">JGatsby</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑XD</span><span class="push-right">238F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/power90145/push?y=15" target="_blank">power90145</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爆</span><span class="push-right">239F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HBK66/push?y=15" target="_blank">HBK66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可以貼到黃智賢的FB嗎?</span><span class="push-right">240F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LostInTime/push?y=15" target="_blank">LostInTime</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超八卦der!</span><span class="push-right">241F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hiro1221/push?y=15" target="_blank">hiro1221</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好好笑~~</span><span class="push-right">242F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coollonger/push?y=15" target="_blank">coollonger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就讓這些沒褲子的蛆取暖嘛</span><span class="push-right">243F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maxjoiny/push?y=15" target="_blank">maxjoiny</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑版 哈哈 好猛喔</span><span class="push-right">244F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/twkg801011/push?y=15" target="_blank">twkg801011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT到現在還不懂如何找褲子..</span><span class="push-right">245F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/star123/push?y=15" target="_blank">star123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政wwwwwwwww黑wwwwwwwwwwww</span><span class="push-right">246F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 整找PTT政黑是想笑死人喔 人就那一小戳XD</span><span class="push-right">247F 02/26 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nomimono/push?y=15" target="_blank">nomimono</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑友軍 加油好嗎</span><span class="push-right">248F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/huijun/push?y=15" target="_blank">huijun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">249F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rbull/push?y=15" target="_blank">rbull</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那邊版主到底怎麼選出來的</span><span class="push-right">250F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/outlookXP/push?y=15" target="_blank">outlookXP</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這才是八卦</span><span class="push-right">251F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kana0228/push?y=15" target="_blank">kana0228</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媽挖底加啦!!!</span><span class="push-right">252F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ladyuno/push?y=15" target="_blank">ladyuno</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我相信這是國民黨的白癡策略,可是我不相信你的公文</span><span class="push-right">253F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hiro1221/push?y=15" target="_blank">hiro1221</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 找唐湘龍是請鬼拿藥單嗎...</span><span class="push-right">254F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cabron/push?y=15" target="_blank">cabron</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦清流啊啊啊!</span><span class="push-right">255F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qppqqp/push?y=15" target="_blank">qppqqp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的沒救了....蛆還是認為網路是吱吱的 K黨不倒台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">256F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 先學穿褲子</span><span class="push-right">257F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/se2422/push?y=15" target="_blank">se2422</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 去病畜版發言挺藍能領500嗎?</span><span class="push-right">258F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/will3529/push?y=15" target="_blank">will3529</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">259F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/superlittle/push?y=15" target="_blank">superlittle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">260F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/uei1201/push?y=15" target="_blank">uei1201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正晶限時批是柯文哲扶植的,意外嗎?</span><span class="push-right">261F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LateRainUn/push?y=15" target="_blank">LateRainUn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一定是婉君自己打自己拍的...以為鄉民好騙?</span><span class="push-right">262F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pong530/push?y=15" target="_blank">pong530</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太好笑了XDDD</span><span class="push-right">263F 02/26 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/memories66/push?y=15" target="_blank">memories66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">264F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=15" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈 還分政黑是友軍 要抗衡 KMT垃圾匪黨還是滿腦對立</span><span class="push-right">265F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/juncat/push?y=15" target="_blank">juncat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板 + 白色正義聯盟 = 黑白雙煞都有了 真不簡單</span><span class="push-right">266F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shesheep/push?y=15" target="_blank">shesheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">267F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BETGOD/push?y=15" target="_blank">BETGOD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 猴子高潮</span><span class="push-right">268F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蛆蛆最大的盲點就是以為輸在網路 明明K擋派一堆黨工</span><span class="push-right">269F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DBSS/push?y=15" target="_blank">DBSS</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的沒救了 只會搞這種反擊機制與粉飾太平的作為</span><span class="push-right">270F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ii1107x/push?y=15" target="_blank">ii1107x</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推八卦~~~~</span><span class="push-right">271F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/martell11655/push?y=15" target="_blank">martell11655</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 怒推</span><span class="push-right">272F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rasiel0919/push?y=15" target="_blank">rasiel0919</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">273F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 找棧飯還有義大利隊友取暖可以得到什麼結論</span><span class="push-right">274F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/escorpion/push?y=15" target="_blank">escorpion</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果然是K黨的思維</span><span class="push-right">275F 02/26 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Keng/push?y=15" target="_blank">Keng</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老闆水餃500顆配酸辣湯 OH YEAH</span><span class="push-right">276F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fosa/push?y=15" target="_blank">fosa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很好奇一二點是什麼,方便一併放上來嗎?</span><span class="push-right">277F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/s595857/push?y=15" target="_blank">s595857</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 朝聖</span><span class="push-right">278F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 在各大網站發言 這些都被無視</span><span class="push-right">279F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Divya/push?y=15" target="_blank">Divya</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推回來!</span><span class="push-right">280F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/holybless/push?y=15" target="_blank">holybless</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 機密文件曝光!</span><span class="push-right">281F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/msj2287/push?y=15" target="_blank">msj2287</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太搞笑了</span><span class="push-right">282F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serval623/push?y=15" target="_blank">serval623</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我每天罵狗黨人渣、一毛錢都沒領。因為賣國賊人人得而</span><span class="push-right">283F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=15" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾KMT還是繼續以為是網路輸的吧XDDD</span><span class="push-right">284F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bjj/push?y=15" target="_blank">bjj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">285F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serval623/push?y=15" target="_blank">serval623</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 誅之</span><span class="push-right">286F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sakaizawa/push?y=15" target="_blank">sakaizawa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 專門找那種反指標或跟現實世界逆風的盟軍 我快笑噴了</span><span class="push-right">287F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/caesst85149/push?y=15" target="_blank">caesst85149</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨認證的友軍</span><span class="push-right">288F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/banbee100/push?y=15" target="_blank">banbee100</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這個黨真是沒救了</span><span class="push-right">289F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">fhsh115</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fhsh115/push?y=15" target="_blank">fhsh115</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑 K黨認證ZZZZ</span><span class="push-right">290F 02/26 17:52</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 11/29前 還不是一堆屎蛆在網路上亂罵XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">291F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g9591410/push?y=15" target="_blank">g9591410</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 結果冥香濃是酬庸性質的工作 果然是聖上好朋友</span><span class="push-right">292F 02/26 17:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momocom/push?y=15" target="_blank">momocom</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑XD</span><span class="push-right">293F 02/26 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mn228426/push?y=15" target="_blank">mn228426</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑屎坑</span><span class="push-right">294F 02/26 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bigbearlin/push?y=15" target="_blank">bigbearlin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 讚啦 我就說kmt奇才啦</span><span class="push-right">295F 02/26 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/F5/push?y=15" target="_blank">F5</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 孝子龍</span><span class="push-right">296F 02/26 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mramos6796/push?y=15" target="_blank">mramos6796</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 白色正義聯盟......</span><span class="push-right">297F 02/26 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AustinRivers/push?y=15" target="_blank">AustinRivers</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 抓到惹</span><span class="push-right">298F 02/26 17:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kymco9999/push?y=15" target="_blank">kymco9999</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈</span><span class="push-right">299F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">300F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 結果呢? 還不是輸到死,所以狗黨根本不是輸在網路</span><span class="push-right">301F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=15" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 骨子裡依舊是只分藍綠充滿對立的垃圾黨 期待KMT檢討???</span><span class="push-right">302F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luluffy/push?y=15" target="_blank">luluffy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神了!</span><span class="push-right">303F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/isaac7109/push?y=15" target="_blank">isaac7109</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 候選人檢視聯盟:勿忘我</span><span class="push-right">304F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SuperUp/push?y=15" target="_blank">SuperUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 執政的不好好執政只想洗腦</span><span class="push-right">305F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Rsew/push?y=15" target="_blank">Rsew</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 關鍵字爆笑</span><span class="push-right">306F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gina13423/push?y=15" target="_blank">gina13423</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推,記者快來</span><span class="push-right">307F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ikai99/push?y=15" target="_blank">ikai99</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到那些友軍...我就笑了...</span><span class="push-right">308F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eggsnk/push?y=15" target="_blank">eggsnk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍勢力政黑版XDDD</span><span class="push-right">309F 02/26 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NowQmmmmmmmm/push?y=15" target="_blank">NowQmmmmmmmm</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 與PTT政黑版合作XD難怪</span><span class="push-right">310F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/storyf66014/push?y=15" target="_blank">storyf66014</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT認證的友軍 - 政黑</span><span class="push-right">311F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Rabbit19264/push?y=15" target="_blank">Rabbit19264</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ......</span><span class="push-right">312F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 晚上吃餃子看戲</span><span class="push-right">313F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 《網路酸辣湯》 >>>"要看名嘴與婉君表妹過招嗎!?"</span><span class="push-right">314F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ikai99/push?y=15" target="_blank">ikai99</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT會輸到脫褲不是沒有原因的</span><span class="push-right">315F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/k14134/push?y=15" target="_blank">k14134</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 白癡 只要反對就是綠營喔 狗黨真是永遠不知反省</span><span class="push-right">316F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momogo628/push?y=15" target="_blank">momogo628</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 總之還是沒反省 莫名其妙</span><span class="push-right">317F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大家還記得糞坑板以前怎麼假掰說自己是中立選民吧!</span><span class="push-right">318F 02/26 17:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/max0928895/push?y=15" target="_blank">max0928895</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 找政黑板會找到一多反串的吧XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">319F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/momocom/push?y=15" target="_blank">momocom</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑什麼時候可以選版主?</span><span class="push-right">320F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/billy4305/push?y=15" target="_blank">billy4305</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正黑終於被他們看見了 XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">321F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/f37605/push?y=15" target="_blank">f37605</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">322F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=15" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不認同KMT的=綠營 繼續這樣想最好XDDD</span><span class="push-right">323F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nojydia/push?y=15" target="_blank">nojydia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果然死腦袋 繼續等死吧</span><span class="push-right">324F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: "0226【網路酸辣湯】 《誰敢對柯p、網軍開戰? 慈濟是也!》</span><span class="push-right">325F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/VTsuyoshi/push?y=15" target="_blank">VTsuyoshi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈</span><span class="push-right">326F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a001223/push?y=15" target="_blank">a001223</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾節目 哈哈哈 抓到了齁</span><span class="push-right">327F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ivan609/push?y=15" target="_blank">ivan609</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍還是婉君呢!? 真心還是反串呢XDDD</span><span class="push-right">328F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/just5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">just5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這是吱吱謠言 坐等晚上節目澄清 打臉吱吱XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">329F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pccheni/push?y=15" target="_blank">pccheni</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ㄏㄏ</span><span class="push-right">330F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 明明就是深藍版硬說自己是主流民意 中立選民 有夠噁</span><span class="push-right">331F 02/26 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bluestart26/push?y=15" target="_blank">bluestart26</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難怪,那個節目還存在真有蹊蹺</span><span class="push-right">332F 02/26 17:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pp1877/push?y=15" target="_blank">pp1877</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 什麼鬼啦XDDD 不求是非求友方結盟是哪招啦XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">333F 02/26 17:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/b642897/push?y=15" target="_blank">b642897</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好屌,PTT真的是指標</span><span class="push-right">334F 02/26 17:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/akiehls/push?y=15" target="_blank">akiehls</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">335F 02/26 17:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yuisgood/push?y=15" target="_blank">yuisgood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠北啊XDD KMT表示:共匪就在你身邊無誤XDD</span><span class="push-right">336F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guanshiun/push?y=15" target="_blank">guanshiun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇可以轉joke嗎xddddd</span><span class="push-right">337F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tkfc5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">tkfc5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這太有八掛了…哇靠…水燒起來了啦</span><span class="push-right">338F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ouskit/push?y=15" target="_blank">ouskit</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ㄎㄎㄎ</span><span class="push-right">339F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Noel7788/push?y=15" target="_blank">Noel7788</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛快推</span><span class="push-right">340F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我覺得他們要找友軍要去FB那裏才是人最多的地方</span><span class="push-right">341F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/choux/push?y=15" target="_blank">choux</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 對網路評論進行再評論 摧毀謠言公信力 改風向?</span><span class="push-right">342F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mayday0022/push?y=15" target="_blank">mayday0022</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">343F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ppppman/push?y=15" target="_blank">ppppman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 讚~爆惹</span><span class="push-right">344F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shadow0326/push?y=15" target="_blank">shadow0326</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 趙少康: 幹 不找的</span><span class="push-right">345F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 共和黨陳腐至少手下能人多 反觀</span><span class="push-right">346F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/seedk869/push?y=15" target="_blank">seedk869</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神啦</span><span class="push-right">347F 02/26 17:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/urdie/push?y=15" target="_blank">urdie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 吱吱崩潰 支持酸辣湯邀請政黑乙太公上節目坐鎮</span><span class="push-right">348F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FinnF/push?y=15" target="_blank">FinnF</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 抓到了XD 快備份</span><span class="push-right">349F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NowQmmmmmmmm/push?y=15" target="_blank">NowQmmmmmmmm</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一群垃圾跟另一群垃圾的結合 還是垃圾</span><span class="push-right">350F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/reaturn/push?y=15" target="_blank">reaturn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨欽點政黑是友軍,可是我政黑絕對是中立理性的</span><span class="push-right">351F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j0928875963/push?y=15" target="_blank">j0928875963</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾節目</span><span class="push-right">352F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/k721102/push?y=15" target="_blank">k721102</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果然是中共的節目 XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">353F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我不要,要找就找版主 那個板主很好笑</span><span class="push-right">354F 02/26 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/revive25/push?y=15" target="_blank">revive25</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中視有人在看嗎</span><span class="push-right">355F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SlimeKnight/push?y=15" target="_blank">SlimeKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 做得爛才是敗因 我才不信網路能影響多大</span><span class="push-right">356F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 每次結尾必打XD的版主</span><span class="push-right">357F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/panzer1224/push?y=15" target="_blank">panzer1224</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: xedddddd到哪都有耳目 kmt你真的不用混了</span><span class="push-right">358F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/groundmon/push?y=15" target="_blank">groundmon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哇操 宗旨就是帶風向 到底有沒有想討論、解決問題</span><span class="push-right">359F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/unreal29/push?y=15" target="_blank">unreal29</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 襪賽</span><span class="push-right">360F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ivan609/push?y=15" target="_blank">ivan609</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 選舉前不是有個政黑板友被當作是柯P婉君嗎XDD</span><span class="push-right">361F 02/26 18:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Penny1225/push?y=15" target="_blank">Penny1225</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有卦</span><span class="push-right">362F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=15" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這什麼弱友軍 不如找慈濟加入同盟吧 師姐一個打全部</span><span class="push-right">363F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PTTymarch/push?y=15" target="_blank">PTTymarch</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">364F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BeYaaaaaaaa/push?y=15" target="_blank">BeYaaaaaaaa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">365F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lili300/push?y=15" target="_blank">lili300</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 猛一看還以為是阿共的宣傳部</span><span class="push-right">366F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MermaidFA/push?y=15" target="_blank">MermaidFA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有卦我推</span><span class="push-right">367F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ym010273/push?y=15" target="_blank">ym010273</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑,科科</span><span class="push-right">368F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/modena6500/push?y=15" target="_blank">modena6500</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">369F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=15" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 最近剛好槓上柯P 慈濟應該有資格加入KMT同盟</span><span class="push-right">370F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31670323/push?y=15" target="_blank">a31670323</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爛節目</span><span class="push-right">371F 02/26 18:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bala73/push?y=15" target="_blank">bala73</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">372F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/weakerman/push?y=15" target="_blank">weakerman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑版眾表示:溫馨</span><span class="push-right">373F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blackchc/push?y=15" target="_blank">blackchc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDD</span><span class="push-right">374F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sosoing/push?y=15" target="_blank">sosoing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">375F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: " 是全台灣第一個結合網路大數據的新聞節目 " -.-</span><span class="push-right">376F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wingsfly/push?y=15" target="_blank">wingsfly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT友軍,PTT政黑板…</span><span class="push-right">377F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eva0606/push?y=15" target="_blank">eva0606</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦</span><span class="push-right">378F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NT520/push?y=15" target="_blank">NT520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看主持人就知道這節目的目的惹</span><span class="push-right">379F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: " 該節目與兩家網路大數據公司合作 "</span><span class="push-right">380F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oeibei/push?y=15" target="_blank">oeibei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">381F 02/26 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=15" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 對網路評論再評論的腦殘節目 旺中真是沒下限</span><span class="push-right">382F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tyifgee/push?y=15" target="_blank">tyifgee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑死</span><span class="push-right">383F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wingsfly/push?y=15" target="_blank">wingsfly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 北七,那些學運人物根本不是綠的,到現在還在藍綠</span><span class="push-right">384F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/morgan13/push?y=15" target="_blank">morgan13</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 簡單講就是"洗腦專案"</span><span class="push-right">385F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1421570973.A.4CC.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1421570973.A.4CC.html</a></span><span class="push-right">386F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maronster/push?y=15" target="_blank">maronster</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">387F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ctes940008/push?y=15" target="_blank">ctes940008</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 快備份</span><span class="push-right">388F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cigi/push?y=15" target="_blank">cigi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈 幫高調</span><span class="push-right">389F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fransice7/push?y=15" target="_blank">fransice7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦版復活啦~~!!</span><span class="push-right">390F 02/26 18:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/selerven/push?y=15" target="_blank">selerven</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PTT政黑板 外交關係:KMT同盟(無限期)</span><span class="push-right">391F 02/26 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">brella</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/brella/push?y=15" target="_blank">brella</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不愧是政黑的賤蛆</span><span class="push-right">392F 02/26 18:04</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poi555/push?y=15" target="_blank">poi555</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">393F 02/26 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dannyy/push?y=15" target="_blank">dannyy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛</span><span class="push-right">394F 02/26 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TKSHADE/push?y=15" target="_blank">TKSHADE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太讚了</span><span class="push-right">395F 02/26 18:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lenzi0/push?y=15" target="_blank">lenzi0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑了</span><span class="push-right">396F 02/26 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/brokeheart/push?y=15" target="_blank">brokeheart</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦歸位~</span><span class="push-right">397F 02/26 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bof/push?y=15" target="_blank">bof</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDD 壯志未酬身先死</span><span class="push-right">398F 02/26 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qw75393/push?y=15" target="_blank">qw75393</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">399F 02/26 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/litwild/push?y=15" target="_blank">litwild</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 亮出文號再說</span><span class="push-right">400F 02/26 18:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/justastupid/push?y=15" target="_blank">justastupid</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 他們是不是分不清黨工和公民團體的差別</span><span class="push-right">401F 02/26 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g9591410/push?y=15" target="_blank">g9591410</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑版主有上過廣告阿 之前聖文的台北明天過後不就是</span><span class="push-right">402F 02/26 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/askingts/push?y=15" target="_blank">askingts</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">403F 02/26 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace305/push?y=15" target="_blank">peace305</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這 打打字我也會啊...還好有被M XD</span><span class="push-right">404F 02/26 18:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a99060510/push?y=15" target="_blank">a99060510</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">405F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/saert/push?y=15" target="_blank">saert</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正直和善良都回來啦!</span><span class="push-right">406F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jamesadobe/push?y=15" target="_blank">jamesadobe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 開春最八卦!PTT年度八卦力作,不推對不起自己啊!</span><span class="push-right">407F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g9591410/push?y=15" target="_blank">g9591410</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 差點忘了聖文明天過後有用到政黑 所以 不意外阿XD</span><span class="push-right">408F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/deed0903/push?y=15" target="_blank">deed0903</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾kmt</span><span class="push-right">409F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/going2u/push?y=15" target="_blank">going2u</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超機掰!!</span><span class="push-right">410F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sinon0123/push?y=15" target="_blank">sinon0123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛幫推</span><span class="push-right">411F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kengoptt/push?y=15" target="_blank">kengoptt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一直在藍綠藍綠的,難怪國民黨會輸成這樣</span><span class="push-right">412F 02/26 18:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BigLarry/push?y=15" target="_blank">BigLarry</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈 不把節目名稱改為 網路化糞池 嗎</span><span class="push-right">413F 02/26 18:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這個會是餌嗎??</span><span class="push-right">414F 02/26 18:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tipe/push?y=15" target="_blank">tipe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推八卦! 這黨真的沒救了</span><span class="push-right">415F 02/26 18:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bigni/push?y=15" target="_blank">bigni</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD國民黨從不讓人失望,屎性難改</span><span class="push-right">416F 02/26 18:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/edit852/push?y=15" target="_blank">edit852</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT真是腦袋都裝屎了 永遠狀況外</span><span class="push-right">417F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zidane05/push?y=15" target="_blank">zidane05</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛給推</span><span class="push-right">418F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/captainmm/push?y=15" target="_blank">captainmm</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正直和善良都回來啦XDD</span><span class="push-right">419F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ohnomaki/push?y=15" target="_blank">Ohnomaki</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈哈這公文真是風格不變耶</span><span class="push-right">420F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=15" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 真的有夠噁的XD</span><span class="push-right">421F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wesley0309/push?y=15" target="_blank">wesley0309</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 第四點不就是傳說中的GONGO?</span><span class="push-right">422F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/winnietslock/push?y=15" target="_blank">winnietslock</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你說公文就是公文喔?沒文號就什麼都無法證明</span><span class="push-right">423F 02/26 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/traipse/push?y=15" target="_blank">traipse</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 科科 明明藍的才是網軍 現在反藍都自發網民 哪需組網軍?</span><span class="push-right">424F 02/26 18:10</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/traipse/push?y=15" target="_blank">traipse</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 科科 明明藍的才是網軍 現在反藍都自發網民 哪需組網軍?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RockManX8/push?y=15" target="_blank">RockManX8</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板XDD</span><span class="push-right">426F 02/26 18:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/selina0508/push?y=15" target="_blank">selina0508</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 弱,fb就幾千讚,其他節目都是萬起跳,屌打酸辣湯</span><span class="push-right">427F 02/26 18:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kickmeout/push?y=15" target="_blank">kickmeout</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哎..自絕於八卦板之外..談什麼青年議題</span><span class="push-right">428F 02/26 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Rocks5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">Rocks5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板有黨工啊 沒什麼好大驚小怪的</span><span class="push-right">429F 02/26 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pda2001/push?y=15" target="_blank">pda2001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">430F 02/26 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luluffy/push?y=15" target="_blank">luluffy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 厲害厲害</span><span class="push-right">431F 02/26 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/q10242/push?y=15" target="_blank">q10242</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新黨青年軍 白色精溢聯盟 ㄏㄏ</span><span class="push-right">432F 02/26 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joyc06u6/push?y=15" target="_blank">joyc06u6</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真八卦!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">433F 02/26 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PlayPtt/push?y=15" target="_blank">PlayPtt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 酸辣湯要加醋</span><span class="push-right">434F 02/26 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/frf2pujols17/push?y=15" target="_blank">frf2pujols17</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">435F 02/26 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Freeran/push?y=15" target="_blank">Freeran</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超八卦!</span><span class="push-right">436F 02/26 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/traipse/push?y=15" target="_blank">traipse</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爆掛者是不是大官子女大義滅親啊?</span><span class="push-right">437F 02/26 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/login/push?y=15" target="_blank">login</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: k黨若不倒 台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">438F 02/26 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yyyk/push?y=15" target="_blank">yyyk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板,不意外!</span><span class="push-right">439F 02/26 18:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/simata/push?y=15" target="_blank">simata</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 加入政黑版有錢領嗎? 要找誰拿錢錢?</span><span class="push-right">440F 02/26 18:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cheetahspeed/push?y=15" target="_blank">cheetahspeed</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 屎蛆不意外</span><span class="push-right">441F 02/26 18:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gbad32001/push?y=15" target="_blank">gbad32001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 已哭</span><span class="push-right">442F 02/26 18:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kimi1/push?y=15" target="_blank">kimi1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD 好八卦喔</span><span class="push-right">443F 02/26 18:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mave0/push?y=15" target="_blank">mave0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ㄧ言堂</span><span class="push-right">444F 02/26 18:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linceass/push?y=15" target="_blank">linceass</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以兩位主持人是拿國民黨的錢在做節目嗎?</span><span class="push-right">445F 02/26 18:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/itrs821/push?y=15" target="_blank">itrs821</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這就叫專業!</span><span class="push-right">446F 02/26 18:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kirkkirkkk/push?y=15" target="_blank">kirkkirkkk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑蛆蛆=白目下午茶團=新黨偉忠團 KMT三位一體</span><span class="push-right">447F 02/26 18:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maize21/push?y=15" target="_blank">maize21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 挖塞</span><span class="push-right">448F 02/26 18:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/moneychen/push?y=15" target="_blank">moneychen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">449F 02/26 18:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsubakiten/push?y=15" target="_blank">tsubakiten</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨不倒,台灣不會好!</span><span class="push-right">450F 02/26 18:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ian73/push?y=15" target="_blank">ian73</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 下去領500...</span><span class="push-right">451F 02/26 18:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/modjo/push?y=15" target="_blank">modjo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推!</span><span class="push-right">452F 02/26 18:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vicklin/push?y=15" target="_blank">vicklin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: .........................他們真的完了</span><span class="push-right">453F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/akira78724/push?y=15" target="_blank">akira78724</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">454F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abucat/push?y=15" target="_blank">abucat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 謝謝提供八卦</span><span class="push-right">455F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pro33342/push?y=15" target="_blank">pro33342</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 進攻囉</span><span class="push-right">456F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/widec/push?y=15" target="_blank">widec</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: K M T 友 軍 政 黑 板 挖 哈 哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">457F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YOSO8601/push?y=15" target="_blank">YOSO8601</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾節目</span><span class="push-right">458F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/klandakuei/push?y=15" target="_blank">klandakuei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑……認真?</span><span class="push-right">459F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/davy50707/push?y=15" target="_blank">davy50707</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真八卦</span><span class="push-right">460F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wl760713/push?y=15" target="_blank">wl760713</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 狗黨不倒 台灣不會好 現在還想要控制言論 哈哈</span><span class="push-right">461F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cloudin/push?y=15" target="_blank">cloudin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈!八卦回來了!</span><span class="push-right">462F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/miaoqq/push?y=15" target="_blank">miaoqq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">463F 02/26 18:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jamesadobe/push?y=15" target="_blank">jamesadobe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT就繼續以為「反KMT=綠軍」好了</span><span class="push-right">464F 02/26 18:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wl760713/push?y=15" target="_blank">wl760713</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 狗黨就是想像中共那樣一言堂 全部都河蟹掉 沒有異音</span><span class="push-right">465F 02/26 18:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 支持炳中跟勝文二人搭配建立品牌 成立全新政治組合</span><span class="push-right">466F 02/26 18:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/powerword/push?y=15" target="_blank">powerword</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈!</span><span class="push-right">467F 02/26 18:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/necrophagist/push?y=15" target="_blank">necrophagist</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT友軍政黑板XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">468F 02/26 18:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">zx126126987</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zx126126987/push?y=15" target="_blank">zx126126987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老實講這可信度實在有待考證,等確定再推</span><span class="push-right">469F 02/26 18:19</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tenging/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tenging</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 想起來就油茲茲肥膩逆的噁心感 愛吃叉燒的黨絕不會錯過</span><span class="push-right">470F 02/26 18:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kohanchen/push?y=15" target="_blank">kohanchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政戰出動!</span><span class="push-right">471F 02/26 18:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/o2arfish/push?y=15" target="_blank">o2arfish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">472F 02/26 18:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JOJOJIMJIM/push?y=15" target="_blank">JOJOJIMJIM</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你在老實三小啦?!裝中肯?帶風向?</span><span class="push-right">473F 02/26 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/facelift5615/push?y=15" target="_blank">facelift5615</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">474F 02/26 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/q13461346/push?y=15" target="_blank">q13461346</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛XDDD</span><span class="push-right">475F 02/26 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/salvador1988/push?y=15" target="_blank">salvador1988</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇有卦,求專業人士鑑定真偽!</span><span class="push-right">476F 02/26 18:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bbbruce/push?y=15" target="_blank">bbbruce</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">477F 02/26 18:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Mazda6680/push?y=15" target="_blank">Mazda6680</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">478F 02/26 18:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shinobunodok/push?y=15" target="_blank">shinobunodok</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 方向沒有一次對的</span><span class="push-right">479F 02/26 18:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elfrose/push?y=15" target="_blank">elfrose</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑要變成黨營了?</span><span class="push-right">480F 02/26 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CCfss/push?y=15" target="_blank">CCfss</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦回來了 T_T</span><span class="push-right">481F 02/26 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pediatric826/push?y=15" target="_blank">pediatric826</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT 真是沒救了XD</span><span class="push-right">482F 02/26 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=15" target="_blank">aa1477888</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">483F 02/26 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/felix1017/push?y=15" target="_blank">felix1017</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 跟政黑合作建立個人形象品牌? 笑死我 某沒穿褲子表示:</span><span class="push-right">484F 02/26 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bloodfest/push?y=15" target="_blank">bloodfest</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍 XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">485F 02/26 18:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/b03012002/push?y=15" target="_blank">b03012002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這才是八卦啊!</span><span class="push-right">486F 02/26 18:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gunfighter/push?y=15" target="_blank">gunfighter</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">487F 02/26 18:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/catlazy42120/push?y=15" target="_blank">catlazy42120</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好弱的友軍.....</span><span class="push-right">488F 02/26 18:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=15" target="_blank">aa1477888</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 請政黑自己人出來說明一下吧XD</span><span class="push-right">489F 02/26 18:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Azabulu/push?y=15" target="_blank">Azabulu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 請原PO繼續臥底揭發無恥KMT</span><span class="push-right">490F 02/26 18:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tdkblur/push?y=15" target="_blank">tdkblur</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的是自取滅亡的一個party....</span><span class="push-right">491F 02/26 18:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/simata/push?y=15" target="_blank">simata</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PTT可以用版來領500嗎? 應該要發動廢政黑版~</span><span class="push-right">492F 02/26 18:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zarono1/push?y=15" target="_blank">zarono1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾,2016一舉消滅kmt</span><span class="push-right">493F 02/26 18:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/atsea/push?y=15" target="_blank">atsea</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍PTT政黑版XD</span><span class="push-right">494F 02/26 18:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tamama56/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tamama56</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫高調</span><span class="push-right">495F 02/26 18:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">tsubasawolfy</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsubasawolfy/push?y=15" target="_blank">tsubasawolfy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 狗改不了吃屎</span><span class="push-right">496F 02/26 18:28</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mengfan555/push?y=15" target="_blank">mengfan555</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 抓到惹</span><span class="push-right">497F 02/26 18:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aidsai/push?y=15" target="_blank">aidsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT 不倒臺灣不會好阿 !!!!</span><span class="push-right">498F 02/26 18:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tai0402/push?y=15" target="_blank">tai0402</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 加油 好嗎</span><span class="push-right">499F 02/26 18:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TSbb/push?y=15" target="_blank">TSbb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PTT政黑板跟白色正義跟老K有什麼關係? 那裏是中間選民大本營</span><span class="push-right">500F 02/26 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ljsnonocat2/push?y=15" target="_blank">ljsnonocat2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板…Xdddd</span><span class="push-right">501F 02/26 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aa1477888/push?y=15" target="_blank">aa1477888</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 應該不是公文 是給內部的文宣和提醒</span><span class="push-right">502F 02/26 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mp60707/push?y=15" target="_blank">mp60707</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦啊</span><span class="push-right">503F 02/26 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/s92228/push?y=15" target="_blank">s92228</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爛透了 一群狗屎 幹 人渣集團</span><span class="push-right">504F 02/26 18:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shengkao/push?y=15" target="_blank">shengkao</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好大的卦,幫高調</span><span class="push-right">505F 02/26 18:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/horseinwine/push?y=15" target="_blank">horseinwine</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 當內奸就不要被找出來 要查水表了</span><span class="push-right">506F 02/26 18:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WLR/push?y=15" target="_blank">WLR</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超級八卦!</span><span class="push-right">507F 02/26 18:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nobody5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">nobody5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 記者快來抄拜託</span><span class="push-right">508F 02/26 18:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/b8r3i4a2n9/push?y=15" target="_blank">b8r3i4a2n9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 丟臉</span><span class="push-right">509F 02/26 18:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/alexjeter/push?y=15" target="_blank">alexjeter</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難怪政黑都那種咖小</span><span class="push-right">510F 02/26 18:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j74127412/push?y=15" target="_blank">j74127412</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大神啦</span><span class="push-right">511F 02/26 18:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bossouk386/push?y=15" target="_blank">bossouk386</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">512F 02/26 18:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cs853/push?y=15" target="_blank">cs853</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 化石腦</span><span class="push-right">513F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/angel0328/push?y=15" target="_blank">angel0328</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑版XDD</span><span class="push-right">514F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ateate/push?y=15" target="_blank">ateate</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 開門 查水表</span><span class="push-right">515F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bahamutuh</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bahamutuh/push?y=15" target="_blank">bahamutuh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 白癡才信公文長這樣 原PO能證明這是公文 我發100份雞排</span><span class="push-right">516F 02/26 18:33</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/icelaw/push?y=15" target="_blank">icelaw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑本來就多元 包容 有品 不像八卦版搞多數暴力 霸凌</span><span class="push-right">517F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elfrose/push?y=15" target="_blank">elfrose</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到孝子龍就該知道湯裡放什麼料了 XD</span><span class="push-right">518F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luckyyean/push?y=15" target="_blank">luckyyean</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 呵呵 K黨不意外</span><span class="push-right">519F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DeltaX/push?y=15" target="_blank">DeltaX</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幽默到了一個極致</span><span class="push-right">520F 02/26 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rgnvgy/push?y=15" target="_blank">rgnvgy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 自己爛牽拖喔 !?哈哈哈哈 優質節目</span><span class="push-right">521F 02/26 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vini770803/push?y=15" target="_blank">vini770803</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">522F 02/26 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/choekyi123/push?y=15" target="_blank">choekyi123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT到底哪天才能把機密資料藏好拉XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">523F 02/26 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jazzDT/push?y=15" target="_blank">jazzDT</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 無言</span><span class="push-right">524F 02/26 18:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elfrose/push?y=15" target="_blank">elfrose</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑 人氣:406 這就是他們的友軍 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">525F 02/26 18:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/panda816/push?y=15" target="_blank">panda816</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑現在能幹嘛 一堆反串的</span><span class="push-right">526F 02/26 18:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wingsfly/push?y=15" target="_blank">wingsfly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 陳永仁再撐個三年,KMT倒了你就可以恢復身份,八卦靠你</span><span class="push-right">527F 02/26 18:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OoJudyoO/push?y=15" target="_blank">OoJudyoO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 整天把公民力量往DPP推 沒看過這麼蠢的</span><span class="push-right">528F 02/26 18:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mrsbread/push?y=15" target="_blank">mrsbread</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">529F 02/26 18:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fabledqqman/push?y=15" target="_blank">fabledqqman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍。。。</span><span class="push-right">530F 02/26 18:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hankhui3175/push?y=15" target="_blank">hankhui3175</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍 政黑板 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">531F 02/26 18:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lu4unique/push?y=15" target="_blank">lu4unique</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神拉~~~</span><span class="push-right">532F 02/26 18:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/weier08/push?y=15" target="_blank">weier08</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦回來拉!!!!!!!快備份!</span><span class="push-right">533F 02/26 18:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yuchuan0521/push?y=15" target="_blank">yuchuan0521</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦回來啦</span><span class="push-right">534F 02/26 18:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joe199277/push?y=15" target="_blank">joe199277</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">535F 02/26 18:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KaidaMegi/push?y=15" target="_blank">KaidaMegi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦!</span><span class="push-right">536F 02/26 18:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mavcs/push?y=15" target="_blank">mavcs</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超猛!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">537F 02/26 18:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/piliwu/push?y=15" target="_blank">piliwu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這才是網軍</span><span class="push-right">538F 02/26 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lighter7322/push?y=15" target="_blank">lighter7322</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蛆蛆們,上吧!</span><span class="push-right">539F 02/26 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/subi/push?y=15" target="_blank">subi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有病有推</span><span class="push-right">540F 02/26 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/saiulbb/push?y=15" target="_blank">saiulbb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這才是八卦 全台鄉民加油 把KMT的ㄤㄗ內幕都挖出來!</span><span class="push-right">541F 02/26 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KNVSEOC/push?y=15" target="_blank">KNVSEOC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">542F 02/26 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TWeng/push?y=15" target="_blank">TWeng</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">543F 02/26 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yujauyuh/push?y=15" target="_blank">yujauyuh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一堆黨工......</span><span class="push-right">544F 02/26 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yef7591/push?y=15" target="_blank">yef7591</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">545F 02/26 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LEOPARDO/push?y=15" target="_blank">LEOPARDO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">546F 02/26 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HowWhy99/push?y=15" target="_blank">HowWhy99</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">547F 02/26 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MOSMOSQQ55/push?y=15" target="_blank">MOSMOSQQ55</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">548F 02/26 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j68345517/push?y=15" target="_blank">j68345517</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑!</span><span class="push-right">549F 02/26 18:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lydia66/push?y=15" target="_blank">Lydia66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 為什麼有政黑板啊.....www</span><span class="push-right">550F 02/26 18:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/samurai101/push?y=15" target="_blank">samurai101</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦魂~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">551F 02/26 18:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/f222051618/push?y=15" target="_blank">f222051618</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">552F 02/26 18:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e347331/push?y=15" target="_blank">e347331</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 果然腦殘</span><span class="push-right">553F 02/26 18:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shindais/push?y=15" target="_blank">shindais</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推卦!看多謝款待都會不小心看到這節目…</span><span class="push-right">554F 02/26 18:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TSbb/push?y=15" target="_blank">TSbb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 核電專家bahamutuh跟我深綠icelaw噓就表示這篇方向正確</span><span class="push-right">555F 02/26 18:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lydia66/push?y=15" target="_blank">Lydia66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 subi: 有病有推 <笑到吐XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">556F 02/26 18:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ni1987/push?y=15" target="_blank">ni1987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD 這就是KMT</span><span class="push-right">557F 02/26 18:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ratalie/push?y=15" target="_blank">Ratalie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑ㄧ堆五毛,國共聯手不意外</span><span class="push-right">558F 02/26 18:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TKC4062/push?y=15" target="_blank">TKC4062</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: .................</span><span class="push-right">559F 02/26 18:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZIQQ001/push?y=15" target="_blank">ZIQQ001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨不倒 台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">560F 02/26 18:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ChiawenTsai/push?y=15" target="_blank">ChiawenTsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇很快就會被洗掉</span><span class="push-right">561F 02/26 18:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gamertwo/push?y=15" target="_blank">gamertwo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的是腦袋有洞!</span><span class="push-right">562F 02/26 18:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/p2p8ppp/push?y=15" target="_blank">p2p8ppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你娘事情做好就好幹嘛要往軍</span><span class="push-right">563F 02/26 18:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/calvinhs/push?y=15" target="_blank">calvinhs</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨不倒 台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">564F 02/26 18:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peine/push?y=15" target="_blank">peine</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">565F 02/26 18:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lineage170v/push?y=15" target="_blank">lineage170v</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">566F 02/26 18:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mhmichelle/push?y=15" target="_blank">mhmichelle</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有卦有推哦哦哦</span><span class="push-right">567F 02/26 18:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/greenhill/push?y=15" target="_blank">greenhill</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">568F 02/26 18:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/whalebaby/push?y=15" target="_blank">whalebaby</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 雅虎新聞底下的友軍怎麼沒一起算進去?</span><span class="push-right">569F 02/26 18:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yu0117/push?y=15" target="_blank">yu0117</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 友軍勢力wwwwww</span><span class="push-right">570F 02/26 18:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LAN620/push?y=15" target="_blank">LAN620</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 錢也不是沒有 想聽好聽話不會自己辦論壇 一定把你們捧上天</span><span class="push-right">571F 02/26 18:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e357922/push?y=15" target="_blank">e357922</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">572F 02/26 18:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chou3321/push?y=15" target="_blank">chou3321</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媽的 怎麼到現在還搞不清楚狀況 爛的也太徹底XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">573F 02/26 18:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ChiawenTsai/push?y=15" target="_blank">ChiawenTsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不過圖片是word檔,還不確定是否為公文</span><span class="push-right">574F 02/26 18:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ching620/push?y=15" target="_blank">ching620</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 八卦板回來了 國民黨不倒,台灣不會好</span><span class="push-right">575F 02/26 18:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goma65/push?y=15" target="_blank">goma65</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT正常運作</span><span class="push-right">576F 02/26 18:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/alexyuya/push?y=15" target="_blank">alexyuya</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">577F 02/26 18:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ilohoo/push?y=15" target="_blank">ilohoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 關於第四點 王炳中的確已經建立個人品牌了</span><span class="push-right">578F 02/26 19:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/myths/push?y=15" target="_blank">myths</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">579F 02/26 19:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Moratti/push?y=15" target="_blank">Moratti</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">580F 02/26 19:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ddrose/push?y=15" target="_blank">ddrose</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">581F 02/26 19:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silentence/push?y=15" target="_blank">silentence</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈 北七 看到KMT這樣稍微能放心了</span><span class="push-right">582F 02/26 19:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/curly7/push?y=15" target="_blank">curly7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT完全搞不清楚方向,只會流失更多的宛君</span><span class="push-right">583F 02/26 19:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nsr150xx/push?y=15" target="_blank">nsr150xx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 隨便打幾個字就號稱公文了 文頭勒 關防勒 科科 吱痴綠</span><span class="push-right">584F 02/26 19:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/C8C8DHC/push?y=15" target="_blank">C8C8DHC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還是沒反醒,豬腦黨</span><span class="push-right">585F 02/26 19:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ANCEE/push?y=15" target="_blank">ANCEE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調 xdd</span><span class="push-right">586F 02/26 19:07</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ANCEE/push?y=15" target="_blank">ANCEE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨 果然沒救了 國民黨不倒 台灣不會好</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiwihxh/push?y=15" target="_blank">kiwihxh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬的 還學不乖是嗎?</span><span class="push-right">588F 02/26 19:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sqark912/push?y=15" target="_blank">sqark912</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">589F 02/26 19:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/krobenb/push?y=15" target="_blank">krobenb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超猛爆卦</span><span class="push-right">590F 02/26 19:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xxKWANxx/push?y=15" target="_blank">xxKWANxx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這才是網軍阿</span><span class="push-right">591F 02/26 19:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/phddoctor/push?y=15" target="_blank">phddoctor</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老K的青年軍真是不離不棄</span><span class="push-right">592F 02/26 19:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ANCEE/push?y=15" target="_blank">ANCEE</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到藍軍網軍被拆穿崩潰了就是爽</span><span class="push-right">593F 02/26 19:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blueweak/push?y=15" target="_blank">blueweak</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: K黨沒救了!YA~~~~~~</span><span class="push-right">594F 02/26 19:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkKnight/push?y=15" target="_blank">DarkKnight</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠 還點名</span><span class="push-right">595F 02/26 19:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jessica5230/push?y=15" target="_blank">jessica5230</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真 八掛!!!!</span><span class="push-right">596F 02/26 19:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jessica5230/push?y=15" target="_blank">jessica5230</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑要出名了嗎XDDDD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dtdon1699/push?y=15" target="_blank">dtdon1699</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真八卦耶XDD</span><span class="push-right">598F 02/26 19:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Gigilove/push?y=15" target="_blank">Gigilove</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: cool!</span><span class="push-right">599F 02/26 19:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/doom3/push?y=15" target="_blank">doom3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真.婉君</span><span class="push-right">600F 02/26 19:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/popochocho/push?y=15" target="_blank">popochocho</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Wow</span><span class="push-right">601F 02/26 19:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Patamon/push?y=15" target="_blank">Patamon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 呵呵 有卦有推</span><span class="push-right">602F 02/26 19:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ooyy5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">ooyy5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好八卦啊 政黑果然是外圍組織 難怪OO很奇怪</span><span class="push-right">603F 02/26 19:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kandylll/push?y=15" target="_blank">kandylll</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑不就最唾棄公民團體,你叫他們組???</span><span class="push-right">604F 02/26 19:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/superfourjc/push?y=15" target="_blank">superfourjc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 喔喔 有掛 XDD</span><span class="push-right">605F 02/26 19:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/YHTNIMK/push?y=15" target="_blank">YHTNIMK</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真八卦是發現鄉民真的只會跟風,沒有批判能力</span><span class="push-right">606F 02/26 19:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/colenken/push?y=15" target="_blank">colenken</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老K永遠認為網軍是綠營的,死不承認自己背離民意</span><span class="push-right">607F 02/26 19:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mihonisizumi/push?y=15" target="_blank">mihonisizumi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">608F 02/26 19:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dageegee/push?y=15" target="_blank">dageegee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">609F 02/26 19:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TAIWANSEAL/push?y=15" target="_blank">TAIWANSEAL</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 不推不行 這才是真八卦</span><span class="push-right">610F 02/26 19:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Jinchan/push?y=15" target="_blank">Jinchan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑板wwwwww</span><span class="push-right">611F 02/26 19:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nobody5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">nobody5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有勇者放連結到他們FBI上了...</span><span class="push-right">612F 02/26 19:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/forbake1/push?y=15" target="_blank">forbake1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">613F 02/26 19:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Brad255/push?y=15" target="_blank">Brad255</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDD 網軍</span><span class="push-right">614F 02/26 19:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/enteryou/push?y=15" target="_blank">enteryou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 跟國民黨搞在一起是要建立什麼個人品牌?我快笑死了,哈</span><span class="push-right">615F 02/26 19:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nickstarwind/push?y=15" target="_blank">nickstarwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我愛政黑我愛政黑我愛政黑我愛政黑我愛政黑我愛政黑</span><span class="push-right">616F 02/26 19:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bloody0205/push?y=15" target="_blank">bloody0205</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 路過推</span><span class="push-right">617F 02/26 19:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/b51/push?y=15" target="_blank">b51</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">618F 02/26 19:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/brothercat/push?y=15" target="_blank">brothercat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好好笑 哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">619F 02/26 19:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Wolfgang9527/push?y=15" target="_blank">Wolfgang9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太威了</span><span class="push-right">620F 02/26 19:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/askasyoi/push?y=15" target="_blank">askasyoi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我爸媽每天看整天罵網軍,到現在還在崩潰中。</span><span class="push-right">621F 02/26 19:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jjjjj72300/push?y=15" target="_blank">jjjjj72300</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神啦</span><span class="push-right">622F 02/26 19:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tcboy/push?y=15" target="_blank">tcboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">623F 02/26 19:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eddie7788/push?y=15" target="_blank">eddie7788</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨好廢</span><span class="push-right">624F 02/26 19:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LoliComplex/push?y=15" target="_blank">LoliComplex</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有掛有推</span><span class="push-right">625F 02/26 19:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peichiaC/push?y=15" target="_blank">peichiaC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 什麼白痴計畫XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">626F 02/26 19:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/darrenboko/push?y=15" target="_blank">darrenboko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">627F 02/26 19:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Hotaruinori/push?y=15" target="_blank">Hotaruinori</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">628F 02/26 19:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mocca000/push?y=15" target="_blank">mocca000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不意外啊 這節目標榜大數據 前幾禮拜馬政府也在大數據</span><span class="push-right">629F 02/26 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tong2012/push?y=15" target="_blank">tong2012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只好讓kmt 2016再輸ㄧ次了</span><span class="push-right">630F 02/26 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jason03h/push?y=15" target="_blank">jason03h</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這啥啦 哈哈哈!</span><span class="push-right">631F 02/26 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mocca000/push?y=15" target="_blank">mocca000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看也知道一定有關連性的</span><span class="push-right">632F 02/26 20:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rb66845456/push?y=15" target="_blank">rb66845456</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你壞壞</span><span class="push-right">633F 02/26 20:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Loraiba/push?y=15" target="_blank">Loraiba</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 矮油矮油矮油油</span><span class="push-right">634F 02/26 20:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/samuraibin/push?y=15" target="_blank">samuraibin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">635F 02/26 20:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/VieriKing/push?y=15" target="_blank">VieriKing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真是令人無言的行為,這個黨</span><span class="push-right">636F 02/26 20:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a00011111143/push?y=15" target="_blank">a00011111143</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我媽在問我笑甚麼XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">637F 02/26 20:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kshtainan/push?y=15" target="_blank">kshtainan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">638F 02/26 20:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ILoveDanny/push?y=15" target="_blank">ILoveDanny</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">639F 02/26 20:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chocobit/push?y=15" target="_blank">chocobit</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 被抓包惹XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">640F 02/26 20:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yabition0411/push?y=15" target="_blank">yabition0411</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太蠢了 XDD</span><span class="push-right">641F 02/26 20:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sousake/push?y=15" target="_blank">Sousake</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難怪現在PTT這麼頓 要清算了 塊陶!!!</span><span class="push-right">642F 02/26 20:37</span></div>
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讚 maxleave5:XD
讚 nagame3148:推!超八卦
瞎 free_man:不然糞坑拉一坨屎現在是領多少嘛?有超過公道價五百嗎?
讚 x0888:白癡KMT
→ <span style="color:#FF0">barrin</span><span style="color:#808000">:能把ㄆㄨㄣ當成酸辣湯喝 真不愧是鐵桿蛆阿~ 哈哈哈 是說不學方仰寧局長買個FB按讚嗎,連2000都湊不到 收視率有0.1%否? 不愧是黨產養的 在差都收不掉~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">darkrise1980</span><span style="color:#808000">:不意外,不就是當年抹黑陳水扁跟造神馬英九的那一套.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">alenfbi</span><span style="color:#808000">:已備份 (放大柔化去雜點版) </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">alenfbi</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://imgur.com/d5GGyf1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/d5GGyf1.jpg</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來這是四大團體,複誦一遍,幫他們宣傳:</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:天團一:國民黨青年團</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:天團二:新黨青年軍</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:天團三:白色正義社會聯盟</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:天團四:PTT政黑蛆</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:但是,這四大天團有多少人士重複的團員?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:該不會他們的團員大致雷同,只是掛不同品牌!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">b7face</span><span style="color:#808000">:扯</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">akito</span><span style="color:#808000">:改備份放大版的歐</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aini7225</span><span style="color:#808000">:KMT也開始在未2016總統大選做準備了,勿忘宇昌案(非針對蔡英文,而是針對「抹黑」選舉),KMT應該又開始進行奧步計畫了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:是沒人了嗎......</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:最近看到一個中華民國三民主義青年團(2012年復團)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:這算國民黨青年軍(2006年成立)嗎?用的內容和連結 根本都差不多......</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Rron</span><span style="color:#808000">:國民黨習慣把意見不同的歸類成民進黨,永遠學不到教訓。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">c9774</span><span style="color:#808000">:反對的聲音永遠存在。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ian8402222</span><span style="color:#808000">:學不乖只會在被幹爆而已啦</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">open456789</span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼白色聯盟先被註冊了!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">liangrong</span><span style="color:#808000">:政黑版是友軍...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">samkivn963</span><span style="color:#808000">:昨天晚上轉到...看了不到五分鐘就閃了.....原來是首播.....完全是中國政論節目批評台灣時事</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gcfans</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇讓我開懷大笑</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Kotetsu</span><span style="color:#808000">:...公民團體根本看不起DPP好嗎,這也是DPP內部一些人對公民團體很不爽的地方啊,需要DPP時DPP幫忙了,但又不給割稻尾,跟DPP切割的乾乾淨淨,又要DPP禮讓選區,最好公民團體都是DPP的人啦...</span>
讚 Hu6000:唉, 還是國民黨
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lost999</span><span style="color:#808000">:上次家人不小心轉到 看到主持人唐湘龍</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lost999</span><span style="color:#808000">:馬上大喊:快轉台 他會罵自己老母 小孩會被他教壞的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">leon1997kimo</span><span style="color:#808000">:白色某液體聯盟........ 還說是中歷的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ppAVA</span><span style="color:#808000">:友軍vs婉君</span>
讚 romaine:幫高調
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Mild222</span><span style="color:#808000">:這貨當來賓都覺得弱了還請他去當主持人,節目名稱還什麼酸辣湯的爛爆了,之前選舉期間有個改編XX龍X風來當節目名稱我可能還會轉去看一下</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">DrDisk</span><span style="color:#808000">:基改豆腐腦有多少洗多少。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ppAVA</span><span style="color:#808000">:我不是看人不順眼,但是看到沒下巴的人實在不順眼</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Nagisa503</span><span style="color:#808000">:是真的KMT只剩老人了嗎? 為什麼完全就是跟不上時代腳步,一整個不知道哪個年代來的思考方式?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Nagisa503</span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣下去連被時代淘汰了也不知道問題出在哪裡...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">shyhying</span><span style="color:#808000">:政黑 又黑了</span></div></pre>
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李茂生
說書生無用的人,說我只會批判而沒有建設的人,看看這篇報告吧。
民國一百年的東西,到現在還算沒有失焦。
http://leemaushengispigdog.blogspot.tw/2011/02/blog-post.html
李茂生的部落格: 研考會民國100年計劃結論-獄政改革芻議
2011年2月23日 星期三
研考會民國100年計劃結論-獄政改革芻議
這就是害我整個寒假都泡湯的研究計劃的結論初稿。先說明一下,第一節以及第二 節一
(人力)並不是出於我的手筆,而是三峽大學周教授的東西。不過, 她應該不會介意。
我只是個協同而已,但是卻負責了四場「學者、中高階矯正職員焦點座談」,以及大部分
的結論的書寫。真的是廉價勞工。其實這個研究 計畫真正有趣 的地方是問卷以及回應的
整理,功勞屬於三峽大學的林教授。
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第五章 結論與建議
第一節 當前矯正政策與管理問題診斷
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李茂生
說書生無用的人,說我只會批判而沒有建設的人,看看這篇報告吧。
民國一百年的東西,到現在還算沒有失焦。
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2011年2月23日 星期三
研考會民國100年計劃結論-獄政改革芻議
<div class="combine-lines">這就是害我整個寒假都泡湯的研究計劃的結論初稿。先說明一下,第一節以及第二 節一
(人力)並不是出於我的手筆,而是三峽大學周教授的東西。不過, 她應該不會介意。
我只是個協同而已,但是卻負責了四場「學者、中高階矯正職員焦點座談」,以及大部分
的結論的書寫。真的是廉價勞工。其實這個研究 計畫真正有趣 的地方是問卷以及回應的
整理,功勞屬於三峽大學的林教授。</div>
下載:臺大NTUspace
張貼者: 李茂生 於 下午9:29
第五章 結論與建議
第一節 當前矯正政策與管理問題診斷
<div class="combine-lines">本節根據問卷調查分析結果、訪談、焦點座談內容,以及比較美國、英國、澳洲、日本獄
政管理政策現況後,綜合我國矯正機關輸入成本、管理過程,以及最後產生之成效,本研
究認為可以簡單的給予以下評分:以目前之矯正機關人力、經費之條件,維持監所內收容
人安全成效頗佳;保障收容人與管理人員身心健康勉強及格,但矯正再犯成效則不及格。
造成這種結果的管理機制與政策主要問題有六大面向:</div>
一、人力與經費不足,分配不合理,南北流動失衡
<div class="combine-lines">首先,監所預算與不符合性別受容人之比例,女性受容人佔約 10%, 經費卻僅佔 5%。
另一方面,每年收容人逐年增加,預算卻逐年下降;人事預算為主要支出,而教化相關預
算不足總預算之 1%。其中又以外役監與女監最為嚴重。</div>
其次,收容人與監所職員比為9:1,但收容人與戒護人員在某些監所更高達20:1。在教化
人力上則更為短絀,在一般監所方面,每位教誨師需負責 352 名收容人之教化責任。
<div class="combine-lines">第三,根據訪談與焦點會議後,本研究也發現監所管理人員國家考試中,中南部佔八成以
上考生多,加上北部監所勤務較重,有時會被迫取消休假、強制加班,且加班費有上限等
,導致一旦考上分發至北部或東部監所,均急於調回家鄉,故北部、東部監所人力流動大
,常需以約聘人力替代,或不斷訓練新人,造成管理上的空窗期。另一方面,中南部監所
因為流動率小,管理人員在一監所服務時間太長,形成小團體或次文化,抗拒任何變動或
改革,也造成管理上困擾。</div>
二、管理人員不滿福利與老舊不足之監所安全硬體設備
問卷調查分析結果顯示基層管理人員最擔心為工作安全上之問題,其中最明顯的是安全設
備不足、不夠精密、過於老舊。
雖然基層管理人員對於受容人大多持正面態度,但仍有約3成的管理人員工作時不具太多
同情心,或認為某些收容人不需當人看待。
<div class="combine-lines">基層管理人員多數對工作是滿意的,但認同感很低,且對工作付出與回饋的評價上,則覺
得工作好像越來越多,且常沒有足夠的資源與時間完成任務;對於所做的工作量多數受訪
管理人員覺得並不合理。且他們認為主管考核工作表現時,除了工作相關因素外,非工作
因素也佔相當的重要性,例如:人際關係、年資、長官個人喜好。且薪水及福利不夠完善
,也沒有升遷管道。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">另一個困擾基層管理人員的管理問題是如何面對頑劣收容人、收容人過多及發生安全事故
之壓力,這也是排名前三名之基層管理人員壓力源;此外,管理愛滋病收容人也是管理員
重要壓力源之一。但不能幫助收容人對於大多數的管理員而言不算是壓力。</div>
管理人員的另一個壓力則是外部媒體對職業負面報導。只要沒有被媒體報導負面新聞,在
一般民眾心中的負面形象,對管理員來說不算壓力。
三、收容人作業金過低,職訓參與者極少,教化只是裝飾品
<div class="combine-lines">收容人普遍希望監所能夠培養其未來回到社會後的謀生能力,而非僅僅是單純代工,或虛
有其表的教化活動。但目前矯正機關所屬各監獄作業種類多為單純代工性質,且勞作金相
當微薄。職訓資源嚴重不足,僅有不到 15%受訪者參加過職訓課程。</div>
教化活動方面,監所最普遍、覆蓋率最高是宗教教誨,編制內的教誨師在人數嚴重不足,
調查結果顯示曾經與教誨師互動過的比例不足二分之一。
四、收容人不清楚假釋標準與被駁回理由
<div class="combine-lines">在監收容人假釋被駁回比例超過五成,但女性及愛滋病收容人被駁回比例僅兩成左右。且
假釋被駁回之收容人大多不知道原因,即使知道原因也不滿意。多數本國籍與外籍受刑人
都對假釋制度不甚滿意。外籍受刑人更自覺假釋比臺灣人更難。</div>
對於假釋由獄方提出及假釋標準所感受到的合理程度會因收容人經驗影響,
沒申請過或尚在審理中之收容人有較樂觀的態度,認為規定較為合理。女性收容
人認為假釋申請標準合理程度高於男性收容人。
五、特殊受容人之需求仍待改善
<div class="combine-lines">約三成愛滋病收容人認為管理人員擔心會被傳染愛滋病。對於是否被歧視約五成受訪者沒
什麼感受,但仍有兩成受訪者感覺到被管理人員歧視。大多數收容人認為應增加預防教育
及做好愛滋病收容人之隱私保護。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">另一個比較特殊的是女性收容人攜子入獄問題,需要攜子入獄之 收容人表示如果有人照
顧,則不希望攜子入獄,但更不希望社福單位介入。收容人也認為目前監獄之小孩活動空
間、飲食、托育與醫療問題缺乏,因此攜子入獄並非一個好的政策。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">外籍收容人在語言上顯有障礙,但高度為監所管理所忽視,他們認為床位過少、過渡擁擠
,與家人通訊接見困難重重,假釋規定不清楚,甚至比本國人更難,這一部份也從未列入
各監所新收外籍收容人之應注意協助之事項。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">六、監所所知之違規與戒護事故少,但投訴率僅 15%,欺凌事件黑數高,再犯率逐年上升
以目前輸入資源而言,如此少量的違規與戒護事故可說是相當不容易。但曾受欺負者多數
<div class="combine-lines">認為投訴無法解決問題而沒有投訴,這意味著存在著相當可觀的違規與戒護事件。</div>
本研究發現收容人圍牆內違規事件之特色上,第一,違規發生受季節與超收率影響,夏季
的違規率最高。雖 2007 年減刑有助於減少超收進而減少違規事件的發生,但是僅有短暫
效果。第二,身心障礙收容人有違規或接受懲罰紀錄比例最高,女性一般收容人與愛滋病
收容人最低。第三,不當管教雖罕見但仍舊存在,例如:有的收容人反映『有的主管會找
囚犯打不聽話的』、或『關進違規房亂打』。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">矯正機關目前在表面上戒護人員仍可掌控目前的狀況,但其所承受的壓力以造成潛在嚴重
的身心健康的危機,在夜勤戒護人員更為明顯。這可能會進而影響戒護人員與收容人間的
互動。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">再犯率方面,2000-2009 年新入監收容人中,再累犯比例由47.54%逐年升高至67.32%。
七、小結:我國矯正政策目標在隔離(剝奪自由),並非教化或矯治</div>
<div class="combine-lines">從以上分析結果來看,整體而言,矯正機關管理成效尚可,但以政府願意投入矯正機關之
資源與心態來看,本研究認為政府矯正政策目標約略只想讓監所成為隔離犯罪人處所,剝
奪收容人之自由為目標,並不期待其具有矯治犯罪或減少再犯之效果。換言之,我國矯正
政策若一向強調戒護與教化並重,以目前之資源配置與管理實務來看,口號多於實踐。</div>
第二節 矯正政策與管理機制改進建議
<div class="combine-lines">行刑的三大領域是教化、作業以及戒護,而這三大領域的活動均與累進處遇制以及與累進
處遇制度密切聯結的假釋制度相關。以下將依序逐一說明本研究計畫關於教化、作業以及
戒護方面的建議,並將這些建議整合到假釋制度的改革,使得改革後的假釋制度能夠成為
行刑活動的基盤。除此之外,本研究另建議應更加開放監所,除了使監所行刑社會化、活
化日益僵硬化的行刑活動外,另能透過監所外的外部監督,減輕外部對於監所的疑慮,進
而願意提供資源以利行刑的進展。</div>
當然,以目前人力吃緊以及分佈不均的情形而言,任何的建議最終都會化為泡沫,所以有
關人力的配置、增額以及活化方面的困境解決方案,更是監所行刑改革的前提。
一、人力
<div class="combine-lines">首先是人力問題,澳洲各省的收容人與管理人員比約 2.5:1,英國 3:1,美國3.3:1 鄰國
日本 4:1,我國為 9:1,若精算到戒護、教化人員比,臺灣之比例分別為 20:1 與 352:1
,優劣立判,幾乎無需比較。</div>
以這樣的人力,管理六萬多的收容人,且收容人數還在增加中,卻少見重大安全事故、收
容人抗議、管理人員沒有嚴重之操守問題,我們怎能不先向監所工作人員致敬?
<div class="combine-lines">觀之其他國家獄政,鄰近的澳洲曾經因為監所過渡收容、工作壓力大,導致監所人員罷工
,重大影響了收容人的權益。美國也曾經因為過渡擁擠,少數族裔收容人過多,管理不當
,造成幾次監所暴動大事件。英國的監所管理人員攜帶毒品入監提供收容人之問題嚴重。
臺灣獄政若從經費與人力數量之輸入成本,評估其過程與產出效益,可算是「物超所值」
。但這種物超所值,是如何可能?無疑就是建立政府剝削監所工作人員與收容人,長期忽
略他們的需求而來。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">本研究雖然對於目前矯正機關人力經費之極小成本產出之極大效益印象深刻,但認為社會
苛責矯正機關教化效果差,犯罪人再犯嚴重時,應該先檢視政府投入的人力與經費資源有
多少?而政府在檢討矯正政策時,應該同時考量輸入與輸出面。不能因為目前矯正管理人
員工作表現尚可,而無視於人力不足問題。其中兩個成效下降的警訊就是逐年上升的再犯
率與很高的欺凌事件黑數。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">再者,管理人員南北流動失衡問題,也是一大隱憂。我國晉用監所四等管理人員之國家考
試機制與訓練,比之英國、美國、日本、澳洲毫不失色,甚至更為公平、制度度,也因此
,中南部考生擔任管理人員者比例甚高,加上北部監所收容人較多、勤務較重,多數考上
者不日均請調對到家鄉,形成中、南部人力長期不流動,東、北部長期高流動的不對稱情
況,對於管理而言,不流動與流動過快,都有其隱憂。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">此外,官方資料顯示矯正經費花在更新設備的比例極低,配合管理人員表示頗為擔憂目前
監所工作環境安全,設備老舊、不足、不夠精密,這顯示了矯正政策長期漠視研發、更新
、採購先進之監所硬體設備(如為每位收容人裝置一個衛星定位系統辨識器),殊不知雖
然硬體設施採購維修所費不眥,但是可以節省人力監視成本(特別是夜晚時間與死角空間
),又可以減少錯誤率,其實是可以一舉兩得之作法。</div>
於此,本研究針對人力部分之建議為:
1. 短程計畫:改善各監所宿舍、增加聯誼活動,鼓勵新進管理人員落籍在地化,可以讓北
部、東部的頻繁流動稍微抒解。
<div class="combine-lines">2.中長程計畫:第一,需修法強制規範收容人與管理人力之固定比例,至少至 6:1。但因
收容人的數量會隨著人口數、犯罪數、刑事政策浮動,故不宜以貿然增加三等或四等監所
人員之公務人員,預防未來收容人減少時,可能產生之多於人力。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">若收容人快速增加,管理人力不足時,本研究建議兩方案:一是以約聘人力來補足不夠之
管理人員;二是將教化、外圍安全戒護、作業、職業訓練等採用外包制度,委由其他部門
如民間社工、心理、福利組織、保全公司或中小企業來承作相關業務。因為這樣的人力不
同於大量晉用公務員的高成本,具有彈性,若收容人一旦減少,則可以適度精簡人力,不
影響其工作權益。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">第二,編列預算,研發、採購新的監視系統,可以大幅減少管理人員之成本。最後,基層
管理人力流動率南北失衡情況,需制訂規範規定請調年限,在一機關任職超過一定年限者
,也許強制調動。但為顧及工作人員之家庭生活,可以分區(如北中南東四區)、並在同
區監所相互調動為限。對於勤務較重的監所,若一時無法增加人力協助,應該依照監所之
不同,增加有差異之勤務津貼或提高加班費上限。</div>
二、教化
<div class="combine-lines">其次是教化的問題。雖然實務界都聲稱我國的監獄行刑處遇是「戒護第一、教化為先」,
並稱矯正職員為「人性工程師」,但是事實上只要是稍稍理解我國監所內人事佈局的人都
會知道,這些僅是口號而已。教化經費羞澀,加上作為公務員的教誨師不僅是人數異常稀
少,而且事實上每天都忙於文牘事務(特別是假釋相關的文書作業),根本就沒有餘裕從
事教誨的工作。在這種情形下,教誨工作幾乎都交予外部的志工一事,誠不超乎想像。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">然而,以本文獲得資料分析結果觀之,志工所為的教誨工作極大部分都屬集團教誨式的宗
教教誨,這或許是因為宗教師通常都是以改變人心、促進社會平和為職志,而讓社會秩序
動盪不安的犯罪人正是他們要去處遇的對象,此外宗教師們又有無私奉獻的精神,並不會
計較有多少的報酬或回饋,正適合沒有多少資源、經費從事教誨工作的監所單位。於此並
不是認為宗教教誨不重要,事實上確實有收容人因為皈依宗教、改悔向善進而脫離犯罪生
涯的事例,但這終究是種可遇不可求的事情。集團式的宗教教誨說穿了就是一種宣教活動
,是種單方面傳遞善意的行徑,其間並不會存在太多的互動關係,與心理學中所謂的象徵
性符號的互動關係其實仍是有一大段的差距。試問在學校教育的場域,是否有聽過對於經
常違規的學子進行集團式宗教教誨的事例?教誨不外是一種特殊的教育,監所的教化工作
大量引進宗教教誨以取代教育活動,其實就是一個異常的現象。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">引起這個異常現象的原因不外是「戒護優先其他為次」的嚴峻事實。亦即,集團式宗教教
誨正是具有教誨外形,但是又不會衝擊到戒護需求的活動。在戒護需求吃緊的現在,縱或
暢談多元化志工的引進、改變教誨師的工作環境或強化其教誨機能等,其實僅是緣木求魚
。或謂戒護與教化是一體的兩面,監所內的職員每位都是教誨師,戒護中所養成的紀律與
規律的生活習慣等,正是教化的成果。但是以戒護之實強賦予教化之名一事也未免過於矯
情,事實上就是只有戒護活動而沒有教化活動,更何況長期的、沒有變化的紀律訓練,事
實上會使得人們心智日益減退一事,亦是早已被現代行為科學所證實,以戒護取代教化的
思維正是將收容人視為客體的管理技巧的顯現。監所內的中高階層幹部應該放棄將戒護視
為教化的合理化機制,面對現實,改變現狀。</div>
於此建議:
<div class="combine-lines">1、短程計畫:短期內內應該獨立編列教化預算,以教區為主,嘗試納入收容人的意見而
引進各類的志工,在戒護人力許可的範圍內,從事人數較少或甚至個別的教誨,藉此減輕
受刑生活過於規律化的惡害。配合單位為大專院校、各類非政府組織、各監所所在的地方
政府。</div>
2、中長程計畫:應該考慮利用約聘雇員額,導入具有心理諮商或社會工作專長的人員,令
其與三等監獄官配合,實施各類的教化活動。配合單位為人事行政局。
三、作業
<div class="combine-lines">我國的有期徒刑與一般先進國家(日本除外)不同,將勞動(亦即作業)視為行刑的強制
內容之一。在無法改變這種法制的前提下,將監所作業納入國民經濟的一環,藉此活化監
所作業一事,似乎是唯一的選擇。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">如今我國監所作業的情形,可能比教化工作還要糟糕;作業科雖然有配置作業導師,但是
不僅是人數不足,其專業技能的程度亦令人質疑,而收容人的素質不佳一事,更不在話下
。在這種情形下,自營作業方面,除少數具有悠久歷史的作業(例如醬油、裁縫等)外,
僅有在「一監所一特色」的口號下奮力創造出來的小型生產作業,不僅所佔比例不高,其
技能的層次也低;至於代工作業方面,一般都是電器插座、紙袋、金紙等的作業,不僅枯
燥乏味,其毛利亦頗為低廉。當然,監所內也從事了與營利無關的職業訓練,雖然這與作
業沒有直接關係,而較具教化的面向,但是正因為與作業沒有直接關聯,所以僅能以即將
出獄的收容人為對象,以免受訓完畢即無用武之地。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">如果說從工作中可以體會人生、從工作中可以感受到作為人的尊嚴,則對於我國監所作業
的實際情況,僅能說這是一種磨滅人性的單純惡害。一個收容人每個月平均僅能獲得新臺
幣五百元左右的作業,實在是無法稱之為工作,而僅能視之為懲罰。若欲改善現狀,負責
監所作業的矯正職員必須先改變心態,否則一句現在景氣不佳,即可排拒任何的改革。</div>
本研究計畫,在監所能夠補足具有企業經營觀念人才(不拘泥於是透過現有人力的在職訓
練,抑或利用約聘雇的方式引進民間人才)的前提下,提出以下的
建議:
<div class="combine-lines">1、短程計畫:第一是不以景氣不佳為藉口(事實上,2000 年後,臺商有回流傾向,而且
若云景氣不佳,則所有中小企業早就悉數倒閉)的前提下,盡可能結合社區產業,提升代
工作業的品質。其次,重新檢視、整合各個自營作業的利弊,除展現地方的特色外,亦應
極力避免監所長官輪調時,基於個人偏好而擅自轉變自營作業種類的現象。最後,雖然在
經費與場地的限制下,職業訓練的種類與規模會受到極大的限制,但是仍應盡力使職業訓
練與出獄脫鉤,並去除只有考取證照才算是職業訓練的單一面向思考,而令其與代工作業
<div class="combine-lines">、自營作業相連接。與此短期計畫配合的相關單位有勞委會、地方政府勞工局。</div>
2、中長程計畫:首先,必須把監所視為一個企業體來加以經營,評估各地的代工需求,
改變各地監所的作業特色,在與地方產業結合的情勢下(「職業訓練-代工-產銷」的一
貫作業),可以避免與民爭利的批評。其次,限縮自營作業的規模,盡可能在銷售方面委
託民間業者為之,或採取官用制,直接銷售至政府單位。最後,重新檢視作業所得的分配
,在自給自足的前提下,提升收容人的所得,藉此不僅是可防止收容人的監獄化現象,也
可刺激其積極從事作業的動機。此計畫需有產業工會以及政府立法、審計部門的配合。</div>
四、戒護
<div class="combine-lines">戒護是監所中最為繁重也是最令監所工作人員沒有成就感的一環,縱或不斷被灌輸戒護也
是教化的一環的概念,而且偶爾收到前收容人的訊息時,也會感到些許的安慰;但是單純
的監視工作實在是無法令人產生職業倫理或對自己工作的認同感,甚且一成不變的、深具
壓力的日常工作,也會造成身心的疲憊。特別是當社會與司法單位對於大部分無法於社會
中正常活存的人們,透過其反覆的犯罪行為而將之長期拘禁於刑事設施時,矯正工作人員
不僅是無法從那些收容人身上獲得精神上的回饋,甚且會因為無法順利地指揮收容人遵守
紀律,或令其處理一些自己的事務,進而多所抱怨,或突然發生暴衝的舉動(暴言或暴行
;例如改變日本行刑史的名古屋刑務所事件)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">此外,因為在國家考試的程度上,矯正職員考科的難易程度較低,於是在公務體系下容易
被視為是較低階層的公務員;再加上社會一般人不容易或甚至很難接觸監所,導致誤解監
所就是關社會人渣的地方,不僅排斥收容人,連矯正工作人員也一起歧視。這種局勢會使
得監所更加封閉,而不易接受外界的刺激、監督或建言。當一個弱勢團體管理一群弱勢群
體時,管理的一方為了從頭就展現優越的態勢,其必然刻意貶抑被收容管理的一群,在封
閉的環境下,創造起自我感覺良好的優越感,社會外界的壓力愈大、自我貶抑的深層心理
壓力愈大,其愈需更低位階的人群來肯認自己的存在價值。在我國逐漸步入人工化競爭社
會的世代,被標籤上落後者、失敗者的一群團體,在高牆內玩起小型的社會淘汰機制一事
,並非無法想像,這也是本研究計畫所蒐集到的資訊表明出來的事實,有一群三十幾歲的
年輕矯正工作人員已經陷入了這種循環機制中。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">收容人覺得管理人員不尊重他們,而管理人員也認為收容人就只是社會淘汰機制下的失敗
者;這絕不是在超額收容的壓力下所發生的偶發性情緒反應,而是一種特殊的社會結構下
長期以來的壓力所產生的集團性反應。雖然有謂集團性心理機制並不是問題,若欲改變這
種管理模式只要將服刑的關係改成權利義務模式,令雙方遵循法的指令去做,則自然可以
減少這類的事故發生;另外,亦有論者認為必須加強矯正核心價值的灌輸,只要矯正工作
人員能夠接受核心價值,其自然不會採取不妥的處遇態度。然而,不論是法制化抑或職業
倫理要求,如果不改變集團性的結構問題,法與倫理其實僅是一種表象,壓抑的情境仍舊
會存在,而雙方都無法獲得真正的尊嚴。</div>
關於此點本研究計畫認為可以採行以下的短期及中長程計畫:
<div class="combine-lines">1、短程計畫:在無法減少收容人數的現在,若欲改善戒護人員對待收容人的態度,首先
必須減輕其工作負擔,讓他們能夠有餘裕接受矯正工作者與收容人間的新關係,也比較能
夠落實本來即容易流於口號的「專業、熱忱、公益、關懷」等核心價值。而工作負擔的減
輕方面,只有兩種方策:其一是增員,另一則是以機械替代人力;在增員不可能的情況下
,似乎只有增強機械的監視能量一策始有可行性。所謂的電子監控,一般都會認為這只是
監視器等被動的監視裝置而已,其實不然;矯正署應該多訪視歐日等先進國家的電子監控
裝置,甚至參訪國內一些先進精密工業廠房中的設備,如此應該就會理解何謂互動式的電
子監控設備。矯正署可以先試辦一所電子監控的模範監,嘗試錯誤後,再行擬訂全面性的
改建計畫,畢竟設備的建制與維修費用終究是遠低於長期僱傭人力的花費。此短期計畫須
有民間電子精密工業的企業或官方如中科院等單位的合作。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">2、中長程計畫:首先必須改善收容人的儀表,放棄侮辱以及防止逃亡意涵異常濃厚的服
飾、髮型等,藉此維護收容人的自尊。其次,應積極進行監獄行刑法等法規的修訂,盡可
能將行為規範予以明訂(特別是違規的種類與相對應的懲處),以利服刑關係的權利義務
化。最後,應該在法治的基礎上,從事行刑環境的社會化,不僅是被收容者與管理者間關
係的社會化而已,監所本身亦應打破保守的高牆,積極改善與社會的關係,並虛心接受社
會的監視與批評。此中長程計畫須有行政院以及立法院的配合。</div>
五、假釋
<div class="combine-lines">以上無論是教化、作業抑或戒護都是在結合累進處遇與假釋制度的基盤上加以運作,在升
級以及假釋都是由官方片面決定的思考下,這個制度的運作即是一種國家的恩典。我國的
實務界似乎都不顧及國外的發展,一直不肯重新檢視這個制度的缺點,反之一昧地將這個
制度的運作當成激勵收容人服從的誘因,強調如果廢除了這個制度,將無法管理整個的監
獄行刑。換言之,實務家把累進處遇制的晉級與假釋的許可當成是戒護的最佳利器。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">假釋制度原本是在近代之初,英國將犯罪人流放到澳洲,為求管理囚情而開發出來的制度
。當時的情況是將被流放者分成數個等級,當收容人從事善行累積一定額度的點數後,即
可升級,升級後可以獲得比前一級更為優渥的待遇。這被稱為點數制,而最後一級即是釋
放到監所外,但是不得回英國本土。英王會視情況授予其一些土地,讓他能夠在澳洲生活
下去。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">這個制度後來流傳到愛爾蘭,被稱為愛爾蘭制,進而順利地發展到全歐洲。因為監獄內的
處遇內容升級是靠點數的累積,所以被定名為累進處遇制,而累進處遇的最後一級即是假
釋,並配合上一定的監督與更生保護。由此可知,假釋制度在開始的時候即是一種國家官
方爲了控制囚情的恩典。是否假釋一事,雖然一部份仍得靠收容人自身的努力,但是其並
無權提出申請,而核准的機關亦是掌管行刑大權的行政機關。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">第二次世界大戰後,一方面收容人的人權與待遇受到重視,而累進處遇制在收監的同時,
必須將收容人置於最低的等級,剝奪收容人的基本權利或減少其日常生活必需品的供給(
例如令其雜居於擁擠的舍房、限制接見以及通信的次數、減少其持有物品的種類與數量等
),以便獲得更多的籌碼來掌控囚情,這顯然有違當時的人權意識;另一方面,美國亦逐
漸獲得在行刑矯正領域的發言權,而其所採用的是比較人道的善時制,不剝奪收容人維持
尊嚴所需的最低需求,只要收容人不犯規,則可以縮減服刑日數(例如服刑二十天折算一
個月,在我國被稱為縮刑制);於是在美國放棄矯正理念的前世紀八十年代前,幾乎所有
的國家都放棄了累進處遇制,而改採善時制。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">善時制本是一種不犯規即自動縮短刑期的制度,當期限到了,則滿期釋放,與假釋制度是
沒有直接的關係;但是假釋也是一種透過自由與剝奪自由的操控而掌控囚情的制度,於本
質上和善時制並沒有太多的衝突。於是這兩者的結合,造就了現在最新型的行刑制度,亦
即所謂的階段制。階段制是指只要收容人遵守監所的規則,則其可階段式地獲得與自由社
會接觸的機會。換言之,收容機構被分成全然剝奪自由、半開放、開放等數種類型,收容
人只要遵守規矩,則不僅可以縮短刑期,其亦可透過移監執行的方式,轉換到更能夠接觸
自由社會的監獄;當自由的剝奪程度減輕的同時,行刑機關會適度地按收容人所獲得的自
由程度,安排其接受復歸社會時所需的處遇。這種階段制的最後一個階段即是在一定條件
下的復歸社會,於有必要時,得將收容人收容於有門禁或其他特殊處遇等自由限制的更生
設施,而這無疑是種變形的假釋制度-法定假釋制。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">行刑理念與實務發展至此階段,為達成更生目的移監以及附條件的釋放等已經是收容人的
權利,在判決的同時,收容人即已獲得這個權利,除非其自行放棄,不然行刑機關是不得
任意剝奪。換言之,這是附加在剝奪自由的司法決定中收容人的權利,行刑機關根據收容
人的服刑紀錄而剝奪這個權利時,其決定會受到司法的再度審查。更明確而言,這不是國
家透過行刑機關賦予收容人的恩惠,而是一個犯了錯的人所擁有的、最基本的社會復歸權
。雖然至今仍然沒有任何國家將此權利予以入憲,但這是一種趨勢,若非我國監所過於封
閉、保守,不然這本來就是個難以阻擋的趨勢。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">我國的刑事政策已經走向兩極化,法定刑以及法官量刑只會愈來愈重,收容人留在監所時
間愈來愈長,在國家不太可能再蓋新監所的情況下,現行制度僅有隨機的假釋以及平頭式
減刑措施可用,不僅不公平、易受質疑,而且也無法即時改善監所過度擁擠的狀態,甚且
容易滋生暴動契機;退萬步言,縱或不起暴動,在人權高漲的現在,往後已有違憲之虞的
累進處遇以及假釋決定為標的的司法訴訟應該是在所難免,不僅浪費司法資源,亦會令矯
正職員整日必須出庭應訊,忙到無法處理真正的行刑處遇。據此,本研究計劃建議廢除有
違憲之虞的國家恩惠型累進與假釋制度,改採機械式縮刑的善時制,並將行刑流程改成漸
進式增強收容人接觸自由社會機會的階段制,以強化行刑的再整合社會化機能,預防再犯
。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">1、短程計畫:矯正署應該重行檢視累進與假釋的標凖,除擬訂明確的評分表,且向收容
人說明決定的理由外,並應規定各監獄的假釋審查委員會中,民間社會成員的任命必須透
過地方律師公會以及公益團體的推舉。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">關於累進的決定標準,現行的作法在晉級方面雖然有以教化、作業以及戒護的觀點所定的
評分表,但是教化的成效方面,姑不論虛偽表現的可能性,事實上是否有達成教化的預期
一事本來就是見仁見智,更何況基本上教化的成效其實主要是要看受教化者的自願,而不
在於利誘;至於作業成績方面,每人的智能、體力不一,根本就無法訂下一個客觀的標準
,與其利用升級或假釋來誘使收容人認真對待作業的要求,倒不如以改革作業後的合理酬
勞來吸引收容人積極從事作業;所以真正能夠客觀評分的僅剩下紀律,而紀律不外就是不
鬧事、守規矩。據以上所論,客觀的評分與升級決定,幾乎等同於善時制。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">至於假釋決定標準方面,則比較困難,除上述的悛悔實據外,另會考量諸如社會觀感、犯
罪嚴重程度、再犯可能性以及社會內的羈絆等要素,這些都是很難量化的要素,不僅具有
相對性,而且也容易流於恣意。相對性、恣意的可能等,正好是恩典式假釋的真諦,亦即
行刑機關透過了不告知對象具體決定理由的權威性決定,展現其支配收容人的地位。如果
無法量化,也無法向收容人具體說明拒絕理由的話,則應該放棄這些曖昧的標準,走向法
定假釋制度的一途。而再犯可能性的降低、社會羈絆的再建、與社會的和解(所謂修復性
正義)等,這些都不外是讓假釋者與社會接觸後,大家一起合作來努力達成的目標。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">其次是關於假釋審查的問題。現在監獄內的假釋申請審查機制雖然已經不似以往只有內部
審查,但是外部委員的選任都是任憑監方為之的情形下,有外部審查委員加入的審查會不
僅是容易受到監方的誘導,而且容易成為監方拒絕提報假釋的擋箭牌。所以應該強化外部
的自主性,一方面可以提升客觀性,另外一方面亦可強化監所與外界的正常交流。至於矯
正署內的核准機制,因為並沒有設置如同各地刑事設施的假釋審查委員會,所以其審核應
該僅具書面消極審查是否有判斷誤失或調節各地方監所寬嚴程度的機能。如今核准率僅有
兩成,且不告知任何駁回申請理由的慣例,應該立即加以改善。</div>
關於這個短程計畫,須有外界的律師公會、公益團體等的參與。
<div class="combine-lines">2、中長程計畫:變革的規模則比較大,而且牽連頗廣;以我國現在的情況而言,任何虛
與委蛇的改革方案都是無效的,必須下猛藥。首先必須透過反毒政策的改革,減少監所的
收容數量。在持續進行反毒的宣導與教育的前提下,應該全面性地將吸毒行為全面除罪化
,並由社福單位、醫療單位以及警政單位接手吸毒者的監控與處遇。在減少一半以上收容
人數、矯正署得順利地按收容人的需求而調配其收容的監所後,矯正署應該著手區分偏遠
型監獄與都會型監獄。偏遠型的監獄基本上是個閉鎖性的監獄,在利用遠距通訊的器械讓
收容人不至於與社會脫節的前提下,其處遇內容偏向於集團教誨、勞力密集型加工作業或
其他具有地方民俗特色的自營作業。反之,都會型的監獄則可依據其規模設計成半開放或
甚至開放性監獄,利用電子監控設備取代嚴格的戒護(行刑社會化的一環),並強化外出
就業或就學的處遇方式;於其內教化處遇的內容會偏向個人諮商,而作業形態大體上亦是
與民間企業相結合的代工產業或職業訓練,藉此可以增強收容人與社會再整合的能力。收
容人會依據其縮刑的程度(亦即,服刑階段的進展),移監到適合的監獄,接受適當的處
遇。當然,其後亦應有假釋期間的處遇,不過這不是本研究計畫的處理範圍。於此僅能附
加一言,亦即當更生保護(不論是法定抑或任意的更生保護)的取向是委由檢察官來裁奪
時,行刑的最後一環即會毀於一旦。</div>
關於這個中長程計畫,幾乎所有的行政單位均應予以配合。
六、外部監督機制
<div class="combine-lines">以上以縮刑制為本說明了階段制的內容,藉以表達本研究計畫的建議。不過,這些都是以
矯正署為行動核心,期待其能夠自主性地改善其行政效能的前提下,所為的建議。矯正機
關本來就是一個動輒趨於保守的單位,甚難期待其能有大刀闊斧的改革,不過以往其受制
於法務部高層,所以會經常性地遭逢一些無釐頭的上級指令,而迫不得已進行活化自己的
行政機能的活動。姑且不論這些上級指令是否合乎道理、是否因應了世界的潮流,至少這
些指令都成了攪亂一池春水的美麗錯誤,雖然沒有一貫性,也沒有一貫的理念,這些指令
都讓保守的矯正界得到了或許其並不期待的活力。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">如今舉世歡騰,慶祝矯正署的成立,但是本研究計畫不畏批判而欲提出箴言。亦即,矯正
署的成立意味著所有的監獄行刑將會趨於自閉,不僅不受包含法務高層在內的社會刺激,
甚且內部的建言也會被無形中靜音化。刑事設施不是個處理社會垃圾的地方,而是國家為
了保障社會平和與國家進步的最後堡壘。為促成行刑的社會化,不僅是必須要求矯正界開
放心胸接納社會意見,而社會亦須提供必要的資源外,對於日趨保守的矯正界,國民更應
以犀利的眼光加以監視。所以我國必須與世界同步,除了進行服刑關係的法制化外,另應
加強對於矯正界的協助與監督。於此建議,行政院除了應該指派督導行刑的政務委員外,
更應成立中央以及地方層級的行刑督導、訪視機制,除了監視矯正單位是否依法行政外,
<div class="combine-lines">亦期待其能發揮整合社會資源,齊心協力促成合法、有效以及人道的行刑功能。</div>
七、總結</div>
綜前所述,本文提出之矯正機關管理與政策建議可以依照其期程、內容、主辦與協辦機關
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a1122334424/push?y=15" target="_blank">a1122334424</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那應該加強職訓所不是!?</span><span class="push-right">28F 02/13 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/diablo81321/push?y=15" target="_blank">diablo81321</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 加強職訓這一點李老師有提到啊...</span><span class="push-right">29F 02/13 00:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=15" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇的建議很不錯啊</span><span class="push-right">30F 02/13 00:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aimgel/push?y=15" target="_blank">aimgel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 閱</span><span class="push-right">31F 02/13 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rudk/push?y=15" target="_blank">rudk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民看不懂啦</span><span class="push-right">32F 02/13 00:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ulster/push?y=15" target="_blank">Ulster</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ...(sigh</span><span class="push-right">33F 02/13 00:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/same60710/push?y=15" target="_blank">same60710</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民當初還說人家什麼建議都沒提...</span><span class="push-right">34F 02/13 00:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=15" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇沒多長,不需要直接End或閱,只想看懶人包。</span><span class="push-right">35F 02/13 00:23</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZenUp/push?y=15" target="_blank">ZenUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看完真的不認同再反駁也不遲@@</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qwepoo/push?y=15" target="_blank">qwepoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民只想到處開戰 真正想關心這議題的很少(包括我Q_Q)</span><span class="push-right">37F 02/13 00:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/asjlk/push?y=15" target="_blank">asjlk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 脫離社會現實</span><span class="push-right">38F 02/13 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HermesKing/push?y=15" target="_blank">HermesKing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇不錯啊 幹嘛噓</span><span class="push-right">39F 02/13 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/robertchun/push?y=15" target="_blank">robertchun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 反正這篇這麼長又沒戰點 早就被忽略</span><span class="push-right">40F 02/13 00:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qwepoo/push?y=15" target="_blank">qwepoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 但我想我會好好看完這篇 至少以後要戰也多了點知識</span><span class="push-right">41F 02/13 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/byon1009/push?y=15" target="_blank">byon1009</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ……唉</span><span class="push-right">42F 02/13 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ssaw5166/push?y=15" target="_blank">ssaw5166</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 理盲謾罵的人哪會管他到底做了多少事</span><span class="push-right">43F 02/13 00:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/robeant/push?y=15" target="_blank">robeant</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">44F 02/13 00:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gp03dan/push?y=15" target="_blank">gp03dan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">45F 02/13 00:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeanvanjohn/push?y=15" target="_blank">jeanvanjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 請跟下一篇尚市長的文章對照一下,非常有趣。</span><span class="push-right">46F 02/13 00:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ulster/push?y=15" target="_blank">Ulster</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你比較有事</span><span class="push-right">47F 02/13 00:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/soulbug/push?y=15" target="_blank">soulbug</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">48F 02/13 00:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a780411/push?y=15" target="_blank">a780411</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">49F 02/13 00:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CN091118/push?y=15" target="_blank">CN091118</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: PUSH</span><span class="push-right">50F 02/13 00:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gemboy/push?y=15" target="_blank">gemboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 愚蠢鄉民直接end 繼續罵拉</span><span class="push-right">51F 02/13 00:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/domago/push?y=15" target="_blank">domago</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇讀熟考監所無往不利啊!</span><span class="push-right">52F 02/13 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeanne3624/push?y=15" target="_blank">jeanne3624</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">53F 02/13 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wala140/push?y=15" target="_blank">wala140</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民不管這個啦 一顆原子彈全部炸掉啦</span><span class="push-right">54F 02/13 00:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=15" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">55F 02/13 00:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xfirex/push?y=15" target="_blank">xfirex</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">56F 02/13 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/capsspac/push?y=15" target="_blank">capsspac</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唯一死刑 謝謝指教</span><span class="push-right">57F 02/13 00:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Plus44/push?y=15" target="_blank">Plus44</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你不知道鄉民文章只看第一行嗎</span><span class="push-right">58F 02/13 00:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/adst513/push?y=15" target="_blank">adst513</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">59F 02/13 00:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeanvanjohn/push?y=15" target="_blank">jeanvanjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的,請對照我下面這篇。</span><span class="push-right">60F 02/13 00:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hc7/push?y=15" target="_blank">hc7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 性侵犯一律死刑...其餘廢話</span><span class="push-right">61F 02/13 00:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/c2c10418/push?y=15" target="_blank">c2c10418</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">62F 02/13 00:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nepenthes7/push?y=15" target="_blank">nepenthes7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 做這麼多還不是再犯 慢慢幻想吧書生</span><span class="push-right">63F 02/13 00:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/itachi0609/push?y=15" target="_blank">itachi0609</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可以先說結論嗎</span><span class="push-right">64F 02/13 00:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/regeirk/push?y=15" target="_blank">regeirk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 愚蠢鄉民直接end 繼續罵拉</span><span class="push-right">65F 02/13 00:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/patato2/push?y=15" target="_blank">patato2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 請問結論寫那麼清楚你不會自己翻嗎</span><span class="push-right">66F 02/13 00:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j68345517/push?y=15" target="_blank">j68345517</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">67F 02/13 01:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/repression/push?y=15" target="_blank">repression</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">68F 02/13 01:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ontherun3325/push?y=15" target="_blank">ontherun3325</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好棒喔(拍手</span><span class="push-right">69F 02/13 01:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loki94y/push?y=15" target="_blank">loki94y</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還有人會浪費時間看這廢文喔</span><span class="push-right">70F 02/13 01:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abandsdx/push?y=15" target="_blank">abandsdx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 對他的印像只有無言的結局</span><span class="push-right">71F 02/13 01:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/edc59429/push?y=15" target="_blank">edc59429</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: +</span><span class="push-right">72F 02/13 01:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/capsspac/push?y=15" target="_blank">capsspac</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 今夜又擱塊落雨 主持過歡樂一百點</span><span class="push-right">73F 02/13 01:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mkchiun1028/push?y=15" target="_blank">mkchiun1028</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">74F 02/13 01:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g8429310/push?y=15" target="_blank">g8429310</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇值多少?</span><span class="push-right">75F 02/13 01:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/p86506/push?y=15" target="_blank">p86506</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民只要殺光光啦 因為用到稅金惹 少廢話</span><span class="push-right">76F 02/13 01:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/onthesea/push?y=15" target="_blank">onthesea</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 角正三小阿 全部去死一死好嗎</span><span class="push-right">77F 02/13 02:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kuro/push?y=15" target="_blank">kuro</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民就不想獄政改革啊 只想唯一死刑</span><span class="push-right">78F 02/13 02:30</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">r2fsiyg</span><span style="color:#808000">:阿不就是在證明自己是與社會隔離的文人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">r2fsiyg</span><span style="color:#808000">:盡是說些完美理想屁話,怎麼不看看失去功效的是原本目標都沒達成的那些管理者,連基本要求都沒達到還想談改革,呵呵</span></div></pre>
Lin86
[問卦]神奇的中國人
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8tOs
2015-02-10T18:54:05+08:00
2015-02-10T18:54:05+08:00
前兩天在逛微博的時候看到這個
下面一片的叫好聲
這時候我就在心裡納悶了
426真的懂這些團體在台灣人眼中時什麼型像的嗎? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Lin86 (凜然)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問卦]神奇的中國人<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015年02月10日 Tue. PM 06:54:05</div><hr color="#008080" />
前兩天在逛微博的時候看到這個
<div class="img" data-ori_w="648" data-ori_h="580" style="width:648px;height:580px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/O3Un4i9.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>
下面一片的叫好聲
這時候我就在心裡納悶了
426真的懂這些團體在台灣人眼中時什麼型像的嗎?
<div style="clear:both"></div>--
<span class="record">※ 作者: Lin86 時間: 2015-02-10 18:54:05</span></div></pre>
B0858B.
[爆卦] 蔡正元facebook
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8sDJ
2015-02-02T16:41:03+08:00
2015-02-02T23:06:01+08:00
蔡正元
剛剛 ·
中選會公布蔡正元的罷免答辯書
為沈慧娥、趙尹旋及鍾春德等人提出罷免本人立法委員職務一案,茲依據公職人員選舉罷
免法第84條之規定,提出答辯如下:
這是太陽花頭子所推動的罷免案,其九點理由,荒唐失據,罔顧公理是非,無異自暴其
短;本罷免案的推動者,既無知於民主國家政黨政治精神;復昧於立法院議事運作程序;
引用錯誤資料,故意扭曲事實,顛倒黑白真相;闇於意識形態,專以伐異為能事;刻意選
擇性攻擊,抹黑人身;更遑論其藐視台北市民智商的論述,本不值得一駁。然而為捍衛公
理正義,釐清是非真相,豈可任令「黃鐘毀棄,瓦釜雷鳴」,為無負港湖鄉親的殷殷負託
,蔡正元不得不言,特詳細說明並駁斥如下:
ㄧ、描述立法院像妥協交換的「菜市場」有何不對?
立法院程序委員會及各個委員會本即協商、談判之場所,普天之下絕無一致的「公眾利益
」是民主政治的基本認識。在多元社會中,公眾利益必歸於多元,多元就必須協商妥協、
交換支持,取得全體和諧,完成立法和決議。因此,在立法院程序委員會,各政黨就法案
談判各出奇招,無不以討價還價或條件交換來達成共識,已成為全世界國會運作的通例及
代議政治的常態。太陽花頭 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> B0858B ()<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [爆卦] 蔡正元facebook<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Feb 2 16:41:03 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
蔡正元
剛剛 ·
中選會公布蔡正元的罷免答辯書
為沈慧娥、趙尹旋及鍾春德等人提出罷免本人立法委員職務一案,茲依據公職人員選舉罷
免法第84條之規定,提出答辯如下:
<div class="combine-lines"> 這是太陽花頭子所推動的罷免案,其九點理由,荒唐失據,罔顧公理是非,無異自暴其
短;本罷免案的推動者,既無知於民主國家政黨政治精神;復昧於立法院議事運作程序;
引用錯誤資料,故意扭曲事實,顛倒黑白真相;闇於意識形態,專以伐異為能事;刻意選
擇性攻擊,抹黑人身;更遑論其藐視台北市民智商的論述,本不值得一駁。然而為捍衛公
理正義,釐清是非真相,豈可任令「黃鐘毀棄,瓦釜雷鳴」,為無負港湖鄉親的殷殷負託
,蔡正元不得不言,特詳細說明並駁斥如下:</div>
ㄧ、描述立法院像妥協交換的「菜市場」有何不對?
<div class="combine-lines">立法院程序委員會及各個委員會本即協商、談判之場所,普天之下絕無一致的「公眾利益
」是民主政治的基本認識。在多元社會中,公眾利益必歸於多元,多元就必須協商妥協、
交換支持,取得全體和諧,完成立法和決議。因此,在立法院程序委員會,各政黨就法案
談判各出奇招,無不以討價還價或條件交換來達成共識,已成為全世界國會運作的通例及
代議政治的常態。太陽花頭子無視於「妥協交換」是為謀求社會最大公約數,也是各政黨
交換意見,平衡各方利益,求取最終共識的捷徑;太陽花頭子專斷地以自我的意見為唯一
的民意,汙名化本人描述立法院如「菜市場」的本意,殊不知「菜市場」正是多元民主發
源的溫床。以蔡正元形容立法院如「菜市場」的論述作為罷免理由,無啻於阻斷協商討論
的空間,其獨斷心態更是違反民主的逆流,這種罷免指控不叫做荒唐蠻橫,甚麼才是荒唐
蠻橫?</div>
<div class="combine-lines">尤其蔡正元推動內湖南港的重大建設,爭取基隆河、內溝溪、大坑溪整治預算,使港湖不
再淹水;爭取台電輸配電預算拆除港湖高壓電塔及街道電桿;爭取在港湖蓋展覽館、流行
音樂中心、高鐵設站、國家生技園區、捷運板南線東延段、文湖線、民汐線、東湖支線等
捷運預算,皆賴蔡正元運用議事技巧妥協交換而得。試問:蔡正元描述立法院像妥協交換
的「菜市場」有何不對?</div>
二、黨意、民意都應受到專業思考的檢視!
<div class="combine-lines">民主政治是一個眾聲喧嘩的場域,「黨意、民意都應受到專業思考的檢視!」這是蔡正元
從政以來始終堅持的信念;而「專業意見的決策」更是蔡正元念茲在茲、不敢或忘的思慮
。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 在此原則下,蔡正元經由「缺席投票」的手段,表達不同於黨意的投票,並坦然承受國
民黨團的罰款,金額名列前茅,案例不勝枚舉。舉如蔡正元以聯合國未釐清瘦肉精標準為
由,反對瘦肉精美牛進口;以國家信賴保護原則尚待釐清為由,反對刪除軍公教退休慰問
金;反對以國家財政困難為由,增加軍人自行負擔保險費的金額;蔡正元主張要以同一標
準檢視立委津貼,因此提案刪減立委9A津貼;蔡正元主張國家特許權優於契約的原則,要
求懲罰不願降低電價的民營電廠;蔡正元更堅持黨中央不應不顧歐債風暴,強行開徵劉憶
如版證所稅;蔡正元秉持專業及反映民意,與黨中央意見相左,眾多事例見諸媒體,歷歷
可證。足證其「只有黨意,沒有民意」的指控,完全是子虛烏有!</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 太陽花頭子所持「脫黨投票紀錄是零,即是黨意代表,就要罷免」的認知,不但混淆專
業、民意與黨意的取捨判斷,其狹隘的從片面著眼,反映對實際現況的無知;更矛盾可笑
的是,倘以其所言,用以檢核其他政黨,那麼民進黨立委無人「脫黨投票」,何以不見太
陽花頭子提出質疑?且全數提出罷免? 足見太陽花頭子操弄民粹是在背叛民主,而不是鞏
固民主!</div>
三、台灣經濟豈可邊緣化?
<div class="combine-lines">太陽花頭子給兩岸服貿協議扣上「黑箱服貿」的黑帽子,是因無知而反對,為懼怕而反對
,不敢迎接挑戰,不肯開創新局;這並不能完成台獨,只會完封台灣,終將迫使台灣走向
邊緣化的境地</div>
。
<div class="combine-lines"> 這批罷免團體僅在網路上擷取謠言,道聽塗說,沒有能力分析「兩岸服貿協議」對台灣
經濟的影響;也不能平心靜氣評估國際局勢下台灣的優劣勢;更不知如何統合台灣的總體
戰力,齊心殺出血路,開創新的經濟局面;這不僅是啃光上一代的老本,扼殺這一代的生
機,更斬斷下一代的命脈。蔡正元作為受過嚴謹專業訓練的財經立委,仔細研究兩岸服貿
協議的內容。這協議不但優於台灣任何對外簽署的協議,其條件之優,更遠比中國大陸對
外簽署的其他協議,還要好得多。蔡正元身為選民託付的專業財經立委,在這專業判斷的
議題上,肯定簽署兩岸服貿協議的必要性,不宜以政治理由荒廢擱置。如今中國大陸與韓
國已達成簽署FTA的共識,如果兩岸服貿因為無知、畏懼而橫遭杯葛擱置,台灣的經濟前
途將無可避免會遭受巨大傷害。</div>
四、國家要前進,更須有堅定的法治!
<div class="combine-lines">太陽花頭子黃國昌、陳為廷等人強佔立法院,攻佔行政院,妨礙公權力的行徑,放諸全世
界民主國家沒有不以警力強勢驅離的。太陽花頭子只會要求警察驅離時,要符合他們自訂
的「比例原則」;但他們發動群眾違法抗爭,卻不知也應遵守抗爭活動的「比例原則」。
中正分局方仰寧分局長及執勤的警察們依法驅離,所承擔之辛苦與忍辱負重,維護台北市
的法治與安寧,大家眼中可見,心中可感,又豈是太陽花頭子一句「國家暴力」所能誣衊
的。尊重法治的準則是建立先進國家的起點,違犯法治的行徑是敗壞現代社會的惡因。身
為台北市立委,蔡正元支持警察,維護法治的立場,才是國家能穩定前進的正確軌道。</div>
五、黃國昌立場偏頗,豈可不受監督?
<div class="combine-lines">黃國昌、陳為廷等人假藉反對媒體壟斷之名,介入媒體集團間的商業競爭,豈可不受監督
?尤其黃國昌領納稅人的薪水,何以能不受檢驗?黃國昌等人如係真的反對媒體壟斷,何
以只反旺中?不反自由時報?不反三立、民視?不反蘋果、年代、壹電視?尤其當頂新集團
取代旺中收購中嘉媒體時,黃國昌等人的反對聲音何在?何以噤聲不語?何以不再發動學
生群眾抗爭頂新?可見黃國昌等人偏頗的意識型態,只是刻意地針對特定媒體發動抗爭。
況且黃國昌作為中央研究院雇員,領公家薪水、閃避公務員身分,介入前述媒體的競爭關
係,為何可以自認為不必接受立法院的監督?</div>
六、變造紀錄,誣指歧視新移民,其心可誅!
<div class="combine-lines">太陽花頭子操弄的罷免團體,扭曲變造蔡正元為外配子女爭取兒童服務經費的質詢全文,
惡意貼上種族歧視的黑標籤,其心可誅。蔡正元的質詢重點節錄於下,以昭公信,另可參
閱立法院101年3月15日質詢原文(立法院公報第101卷第11期P125-128)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 明眼人查看原文即知,這段質詢是蔡正元根據警方資料,用心替外配子女爭取更多兒童
服務經費。太陽花學運頭子卻斷章取義,誣指蔡正元歧視新移民作為罷免理由,完全是扭
曲事實,顛倒是非,以汙衊為能事!</div>
(蔡正元的質詢重點節錄)
<div class="combine-lines">蔡正元:「本席從警界那邊獲得一些資訊,他們擔憂外籍配偶所生之兒童及少年目前的處
境,如果我們在這段時間沒有積極努力、如果我們沒有花心思、如果我們沒有花預算、如
果我們的政府沒有伸出一雙溫暖的手,在10年或是15年後,他們可能成為台灣社會犯罪最
大宗的來源。」</div>
李鴻源:「沒錯,這就是我5年前到台北縣服務時的施政重點」……
蔡正元:「外籍配偶所生之兒童的服務經費為624萬2,000元,總共只辦了30個專案,一年
才服務900個人,這與你剛才所講的50萬人是否差距太大?」
李鴻源:「確實是不符比例原則」……
七、主張引進新加坡式國際觀光賭場,也是罷免罪狀?
<div class="combine-lines">蔡正元多年前主張在桃園航空城設置新加坡式國際觀光賭場,藉以提升觀光業產值,提高
服務業的年輕人起薪。這個想法已在韓國採用。韓國政府在仁川機場籌設觀光賭場,發揮
經濟效益,擴大觀光產值。太陽花頭子竟然以此為罷免理由,令人驚異莫名。觀諸在現有
產業架構下,台灣的大學生就業機會越發困難,就業起薪越發低迷。尤其現有服務業即將
進入飽和的寒冬期,而服務業中的觀光業也面臨低產值、低起薪的困境。這正是新加坡、
韓國、日本無不積極規劃國際觀光賭場的本意,希望觀光賭場所附帶的會議、遊樂、購物
等中心,可創造更高起薪的就業機會。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 新加坡在1965年建國後,一直以道德國家自居,並嚴厲禁止賭場,李光耀曾說過:「新
加坡要開賭場,除非等到我死了。」然而其子李顯龍所領導的新加坡政府卻積極引進外資
,進軍被稱為新型綠色環保的產業,即「觀光賭博業」。難道新加坡政府無視於所謂的「
負面成本」?新加坡觀光賭場高達200多公尺的空中游泳池,已是新加坡向全球招商攬資
的國際地標。蔡正元提出與新加坡相同的見解,增加高起薪就業機會,也可以成為太陽花
頭子的罷免理由,可見其無知短視,見解淺薄的程度,實在令人驚訝!</div>
八、暴民的挾制行為,豈可美化?
<div class="combine-lines">暴民挾制蔡正元,並非從街頭趴車開始,而是在監察院門口就開始糾眾圍堵,進行連續的
暴力追擊,攔人、打人、圍車、砸車、趴車。社會暴力事件往往由小而大,其中又以群眾
暴力盲目而無理性,靡然成風,勢必嚴重危害社會秩序。這些暴民糾眾挾制蔡正元,其挾
制人身,妨礙自由、擊毀擋風玻璃、糾眾圍堵,均屬暴力行為,豈能目中無法,輕易美化
?在太陽花頭子攻佔行政院之後,暴力行為率爾為之,其後更出現包圍立法院長座車,以
異物堵塞立委座車排氣孔企圖燒毀汽車等情事,目無法紀,莫此為甚。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 該林姓暴民糾眾在監察院前,挾制蔡正元,出拳攻擊肩背,阻擋上車。蔡正元在隨扈警
察協助下儘速離開,林姓暴民又糾眾攻擊敲打車體,阻擋車輛前進,再爬上引擎蓋擋車,
其所糾暴民更持不明工具砸毀擋風玻璃,陷車內司機、隨扈警察、蔡正元三人於險境。蔡
正元座車在隨扈警察引導下,勢需脫離暴民攻擊,前往派出所尋求協助。途中該林姓暴民
不願下車,還對車內做鬼臉示威,皆有錄影帶為證。當見到有媒體和更多群眾前來圍攏時
,林姓暴民刻意放下雙腳,演出驚聲尖叫戲碼,製造出其遭車輛推行之意象,以作為綠色
媒體偏頗報導之用。當時眾多暴民攀上車頂、車蓋,攻擊車後窗,座車司機在隨扈警察引
導下進行緊急處置,趕赴派出所求助,乃屬正當的自衛。何況途中有多次下車機會,林姓
暴民都拒絕下車,抵達警所後,卻立刻下車,跑得不見蹤影。其挾制人身、妨礙自由、擊
破車窗,糾眾圍堵,均屬暴力行為,太陽花頭子的罷免團體毫無法治觀念,以此為罷免理
由,無疑是「暴行有理、暴力無罪」的幫凶。</div>
九、林榮三左手批ECFA,右手賺人民幣,豈可接受?
<div class="combine-lines">ECFA對台灣金融業的發展有很大益處,基於使用者付費並承擔責任的原則,舉凡金融業者
及從業人員皆應積極向全民說明ECFA,讓到處抹黑ECFA的人無所遁形。因此,蔡正元要求
金管會規定,凡是不贊成ECFA,不宣傳ECFA的金融業者,不應輕易准許從事兩岸金融生意
。但是ECFA推動期間,只見政府積極宣傳,金融業者保持靜默者姑且不論,有的甚至還抹
黑ECFA。就像自由時報大肆抹黑ECFA,但自由時報老闆林榮三所經營的聯邦銀行又大賺人
民幣生意。林榮三這種行為可以被太陽花頭子接受,但豈可被全體人民接受?</div>
十、扭曲出席率資料,比秦檜還可惡!
<div class="combine-lines">太陽花頭子故意引用錯誤資料,惡意扭曲蔡正元在立法院的出席率,蔡正元已在臉書公布
第八屆任期各個會期的出席率和質詢率。蔡正元平均出席率是85.5%,不是太陽花頭子的
罷免理由所說的54%;蔡正元的質詢率是76%,不是太陽花頭子所扭曲的5%。在2014年12月
底前,蔡正元的出席率都在86%以上,只有在第四會期的出席率是68.4%,因為該會期恰逢
張安薇被綁架事件,蔡正元出錢出力全力營救,不克出席會議,畢竟營救選民比去開不重
要的會議,來得更重要。太陽花頭子和提供資料的公督盟都是一丘之貉,公督盟是吳淑珍
發起的,常以非常扭曲的做法評鑑國會表現,太陽花頭子又引用其不實資料,可說居心不
良,黨同伐異,完全是惡意抹黑。舉如林佳龍在本會期出席率只有42.8%,潘孟安只有</div>
<div class="combine-lines">54.5%,兩人質詢率則皆0%,卻未見太陽花頭子和公督盟有何嚴詞責備,亦無罷免行動,
可見太陽花頭子所持的罷免理由,是欲加之罪,何患無辭。其行動是針對性的惡意攻擊,
遑論其徒眾採用去頭式的謾罵,抬棺叫囂宣傳,不但毫無正當性可言,更成為玷汙民主的
最壞示範。</div>
下附統計表以供參閱:
第八屆各會期出席率及質詢率統計表
會期 委員 委員會 應到 實到 出席率 質詢數 質詢率
(六) 林佳龍 教育 14 6 42.8% 0 0%
(六) 潘孟安 經濟 11 6 54.5% 0 0%
(六) 蔡正元 財政 20 17 85.0% 2 11.8%
(五) 蔡正元 財政 15 13 86.7% 1 7.7%
(四) 蔡正元 財政 19 13 68.4% 3 23.1%
(三) 蔡正元 財政 15 13 86.7% 5 38.5%
(二) 蔡正元 財政 26 24 92.3% 7 29.2%
(一) 蔡正元 財政 22 20 90.9% 15 75.0%
小計 蔡正元 財政117 100 85.5% 33 33.0%
其他 43
合計 100 76 76.0%
※附註:
1 .第六會期從103/9/17統計到103/12/31,但林佳龍統計到11/21
;潘孟安統計到11/28。
2 .質詢數以口頭質詢為準。
3 .蔡正元於第四會期因發生張安薇綁架事件,忙於解救人質,故出席率較平均值低。
4 .蔡正元在其他委員會質詢次數合計43次,其中:內政10次;國
防5次;經濟8次;教育5次;交通6次;司法3次;社環6次
。公督盟故意不計算其他委員會的質詢次數是錯誤的作法。
<div class="combine-lines">5 .本表質詢率是以實到數為分母計算。若以應到數為分母,可以質詢率乘以出席率就是
改以應到數為分母計算;因為每次開會質詢次數並無限制,用實到數或應到數作為分母計
算都可以,也都可能超過100%,這只是一個相對性指標而已。去爭論用什麼做分</div>
母沒有意義,何況不是每個委員會開會次數或時數都一樣。
十一、結語
<div class="combine-lines"> 綜上所述,蔡正元依法提出答辯,依法不做正宣傳、反宣傳;蔡正元的立場是堅持對罷
免案不予理會,也不會去投票。因為蔡正元認為不予理會是對「無知」最簡單的否定,而
蔡正元相信不去投票是對「無理」最有力的駁斥。台灣社會需要讓沉默成為巨大的力量,
洗淨抹黑汙衊、排除異己的黑暗陰影。</div>
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有錢人,把高房價都買下來...
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8sey
2015-01-30T23:18:54+08:00
2015-01-30T23:18:54+08:00
如果有一位有錢人,
不在乎自己是否賠錢的前提下,
把高房價的房子都買了下來,
再以低價售出給青年學子,
這樣房價會降嗎? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> a12324475 (電子書)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 有錢人,把高房價都買下來...<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015年01月30日 Fri. PM 11:18:54</div><hr color="#008080" />
如果有一位有錢人,
不在乎自己是否賠錢的前提下,
把高房價的房子都買了下來,
再以低價售出給青年學子,
這樣房價會降嗎?
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讚 stu921052012:不會 賣房的人:這麼貴也買?要更高價才行
讚 smallpig000:要降房價最簡單的方法就是房屋稅地價稅直接調高5%你看房價降不降
→ <span style="color:#FF0">wang31104</span><span style="color:#808000">:當然只會越賣越貴</span></div></pre>
sinana.
[新聞] 高齡少子化嚴重 政院示警:每年少15萬人
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8s8K
2015-01-30T10:21:43+08:00
2015-01-30T17:47:24+08:00
最後大概會開放大陸地區大規模移民吧!?
高齡少子化嚴重 政院示警:每年少15萬人工作
監察委員上午到行政院年度例行巡查,行政院長毛治國致詞時表示,國內經濟表現漸入佳
境,主計總處上修去年經濟成長率至3.43%,創近三年新高,展望今(2015)年全球經濟走
勢,雖仍存在變數,惟全球景氣在美國經濟穩健成長帶動下,呈現正面發展趨勢,應可對
我外貿帶來正面助益。
毛揆說,根據國發會人口趨勢推計,未來人口高齡化、少子化的現象將越來越明顯,工作
年齡的人口自2016年起將以每年15萬人的趨勢減少,對產業結構、財政稅收、募兵制的兵
源及教育資源的配置等產生連動影響,已規劃前瞻性的人口政策,提高生育率、勞參率、
攬才留才等政策提早因應。
監察院長張博雅致詞時說,去年底九合一選舉結果,民眾期待政府負擔更大的責任、使命
,兩院應互相勉勵、打氣。去年監院通過15個彈劾案、彈劾22人,其中法務部與交通部各
5人最多,其次為國防部3人、教育部等2人,盼各機關確實檢討改進;去年糾正案則達114
案。此外,張博雅批評,行政機關的法規與社會顯有脫鉤,引發諸多民怨,去年調查報告
中建議72項修訂法規,43項尚待修定。
...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> sinana ( )<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [新聞] 高齡少子化嚴重 政院示警:每年少15萬人<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Jan 30 10:21:43 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#F0F000">最後大概會開放大陸地區大規模移民吧!?</span>
高齡少子化嚴重 政院示警:每年少15萬人工作
<div class="combine-lines">監察委員上午到行政院年度例行巡查,行政院長毛治國致詞時表示,國內經濟表現漸入佳
境,主計總處上修去年經濟成長率至3.43%,創近三年新高,展望今(2015)年全球經濟走
勢,雖仍存在變數,惟全球景氣在美國經濟穩健成長帶動下,呈現正面發展趨勢,應可對
我外貿帶來正面助益。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">毛揆說,根據國發會人口趨勢推計,未來人口高齡化、少子化的現象將越來越明顯,工作
年齡的人口自2016年起將以每年15萬人的趨勢減少,對產業結構、財政稅收、募兵制的兵
源及教育資源的配置等產生連動影響,已規劃前瞻性的人口政策,提高生育率、勞參率、
攬才留才等政策提早因應。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">監察院長張博雅致詞時說,去年底九合一選舉結果,民眾期待政府負擔更大的責任、使命
,兩院應互相勉勵、打氣。去年監院通過15個彈劾案、彈劾22人,其中法務部與交通部各
5人最多,其次為國防部3人、教育部等2人,盼各機關確實檢討改進;去年糾正案則達114
案。此外,張博雅批評,行政機關的法規與社會顯有脫鉤,引發諸多民怨,去年調查報告
中建議72項修訂法規,43項尚待修定。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">政府力推數位化並與網友親近,在監委巡察同時,幾乎每位閣員桌上都有一支平版電腦或
智慧手機,官員準備報告內容,意外成了「低頭族」。不過,在內閣異動之際,內定出掌
國家發展委員會的政務委員杜紫軍、請辭獲准的國發會主委管中閔、新任國防部長高廣圻
等均未出席。</div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XDDXDD/push?y=15" target="_blank">XDDXDD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 水齁.................沒$的要生出來當奴工喔..少是應該的</span><span class="push-right">12F 01/30 10:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ABA0525/push?y=15" target="_blank">ABA0525</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推1樓,然後呢? +1</span><span class="push-right">13F 01/30 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/so03c/push?y=15" target="_blank">so03c</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 又在嚇人騙人生小奴隸惹</span><span class="push-right">14F 01/30 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wangisiung/push?y=15" target="_blank">wangisiung</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我只知道房價一直飆高</span><span class="push-right">15F 01/30 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/turbomons/push?y=15" target="_blank">turbomons</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 已規劃前瞻性的人口政策 還真是輕描淡寫的交代過去</span><span class="push-right">16F 01/30 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kofi0916/push?y=15" target="_blank">kofi0916</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媽的,魯蛇沒的幹如何生小孩?</span><span class="push-right">17F 01/30 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AirPenguin/push?y=15" target="_blank">AirPenguin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 人越來越少 房子越蓋越多?</span><span class="push-right">18F 01/30 10:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/balakuo/push?y=15" target="_blank">balakuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大家要努力一點赚錢付軍公教的月退俸</span><span class="push-right">19F 01/30 10:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ramDisk/push?y=15" target="_blank">ramDisk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒年輕繳稅就沒公務員退休金</span><span class="push-right">20F 01/30 10:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sunnywing/push?y=15" target="_blank">sunnywing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 少15萬人工作 但是失業率沒下降</span><span class="push-right">21F 01/30 10:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pierreqq/push?y=15" target="_blank">pierreqq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以公務員搶退休囉.. 再不退就沒得退囉</span><span class="push-right">22F 01/30 10:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gogoegg/push?y=15" target="_blank">gogoegg</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唯一能救的政策是開放移民 但絕對沒人想看到一堆26進駐</span><span class="push-right">23F 01/30 10:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XDDXDD/push?y=15" target="_blank">XDDXDD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 房價一直昇高 財團炒房 官商勾結 薪水倒退 沒$不生較正常</span><span class="push-right">24F 01/30 10:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ivorysoap</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ivorysoap/push?y=15" target="_blank">ivorysoap</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 比照軍公教給一堆津貼福利自然不怕人民不想生</span><span class="push-right">25F 01/30 10:28</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kenyun/push?y=15" target="_blank">kenyun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正常大陸勞工現在也不屑來台 來的不是退休的就是統戰的</span><span class="push-right">26F 01/30 10:28</span></div>
13億人 只要有0.1%想來台灣 就是上百萬人了 加上兩岸聯姻增多
上一代是台灣人 下一代就是中國台灣人 最終兩岸統一應該是很難避免了..
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XDDXDD/push?y=15" target="_blank">XDDXDD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 未來沒$窮戶 生小孩領22K..喔..不 說不定是15K.老人油滋滋</span><span class="push-right">27F 01/30 10:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wjuiahb/push?y=15" target="_blank">wjuiahb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 症怨:好~示警完了,沒我的事了</span><span class="push-right">28F 01/30 10:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">mayjan</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mayjan/push?y=15" target="_blank">mayjan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這個國家快爛了 誰還敢生</span><span class="push-right">29F 01/30 10:29</span>
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<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hermanwing</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hermanwing/push?y=15" target="_blank">hermanwing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還好大陸人多,最近身邊的朋友很多都大陸來的。</span><span class="push-right">30F 01/30 10:30</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/freemail/push?y=15" target="_blank">freemail</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 魯蛇生魯蛇 是要害人啊 幹</span><span class="push-right">31F 01/30 10:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hermanwing</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hermanwing/push?y=15" target="_blank">hermanwing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 而且工作賺錢很積極,跟臺灣魯蛇差好多喔</span><span class="push-right">32F 01/30 10:30</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/J108i/push?y=15" target="_blank">J108i</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ㄏㄏㄏ 期待看到台灣勞動力不足的時代</span><span class="push-right">33F 01/30 10:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WhiteMage/push?y=15" target="_blank">WhiteMage</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 少生救地球</span><span class="push-right">34F 01/30 10:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shadowdio/push?y=15" target="_blank">shadowdio</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是喔 我好怕喔</span><span class="push-right">35F 01/30 10:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XDDXDD/push?y=15" target="_blank">XDDXDD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看著鬼島瓦解是一件蠻爽的事 爛制度 反正不公不義人蠻多 ~</span><span class="push-right">36F 01/30 10:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RuruX5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">RuruX5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 最後是不讓人退休 活到老作到死 工作大家擔 病痛你去死</span><span class="push-right">37F 01/30 10:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/z71954011/push?y=15" target="_blank">z71954011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 養不起啊 政府搞不懂嗎</span><span class="push-right">38F 01/30 10:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WhiteMage/push?y=15" target="_blank">WhiteMage</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 現在全球人口已經超過70億人 1990年時才52億多</span><span class="push-right">39F 01/30 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knives/push?y=15" target="_blank">knives</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒錢生、養小孩,卻有錢讓老人家過好日子,然後再來怪少子</span><span class="push-right">40F 01/30 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bndan/push?y=15" target="_blank">bndan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 才15萬關心太早.等2020年再來探討新勞資問題比較快 ^_<</span><span class="push-right">41F 01/30 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/return7683/push?y=15" target="_blank">return7683</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 行政院的寒假作業就是把報告做出來準備過農曆年</span><span class="push-right">42F 01/30 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hcwang1126/push?y=15" target="_blank">hcwang1126</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就大家開始想外勞經濟 本國人要怎麼卡位 怎麼賺外勞</span><span class="push-right">43F 01/30 10:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silencedance/push?y=15" target="_blank">silencedance</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以呢?要開放中國勞工嗎?</span><span class="push-right">44F 01/30 10:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knives/push?y=15" target="_blank">knives</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 與其考慮外勞,還不如去想機器人,不過這政府腦袋沒有那麼</span><span class="push-right">45F 01/30 10:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knives/push?y=15" target="_blank">knives</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有遠見</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/koxinga/push?y=15" target="_blank">koxinga</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 台灣地狹人稠 人太多了</span><span class="push-right">47F 01/30 10:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/q210216/push?y=15" target="_blank">q210216</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你娘生殺小?</span><span class="push-right">48F 01/30 10:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/icelaw/push?y=15" target="_blank">icelaw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒七萬 肥宅沒對象生</span><span class="push-right">49F 01/30 10:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/romusutoru/push?y=15" target="_blank">romusutoru</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 自己種了什麼因,就不要怪長出什麼果</span><span class="push-right">50F 01/30 10:43</span></div>
就跟法國一樣類似
幾十年前勞動力短缺 ==> 開放穆斯林大舉移民 ==> 穆斯林人口狂增加
==>穆斯林目前已經能影響投票結果了 ===>以後法國出現穆斯林總統也不是不可能
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jhss/push?y=15" target="_blank">jhss</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 台灣人太多 但是勞動人口減少不是好事</span><span class="push-right">51F 01/30 10:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mingzeng/push?y=15" target="_blank">mingzeng</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只是示警 然後呢?放任房價高漲 雇主壓榨勞工?</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/30 10:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donatello/push?y=15" target="_blank">donatello</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 年輕人買不起房子 養不起小孩 不就是你們的責任嗎!!!</span><span class="push-right">53F 01/30 10:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sanger/push?y=15" target="_blank">Sanger</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 光是示警有屁用</span><span class="push-right">54F 01/30 10:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donatello/push?y=15" target="_blank">donatello</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老人錢一堆都積在房市 年輕人沒錢消費 內需會好才有鬼</span><span class="push-right">55F 01/30 10:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/showhere/push?y=15" target="_blank">showhere</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 解決房價才可治本</span><span class="push-right">56F 01/30 10:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joeypp/push?y=15" target="_blank">joeypp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爽</span><span class="push-right">57F 01/30 10:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yayakaka</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yayakaka/push?y=15" target="_blank">yayakaka</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 重點是房價跌不跌阿!!!</span><span class="push-right">58F 01/30 10:49</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donatello/push?y=15" target="_blank">donatello</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 養小孩可以帶動一堆產業 現在養不起 產業萎縮 高興了吧</span><span class="push-right">59F 01/30 10:50</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donatello/push?y=15" target="_blank">donatello</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 反正這內閣剩沒多少時間 大概只會擺爛留給下任擦屁股</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mij/push?y=15" target="_blank">mij</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 永遠看不到問題核心的政府 治標不治本</span><span class="push-right">61F 01/30 10:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ARodGodlike/push?y=15" target="_blank">ARodGodlike</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老一代既得利益者跟財團政府一起剝削年輕人的後果</span><span class="push-right">62F 01/30 10:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/skyringcha/push?y=15" target="_blank">skyringcha</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只會示警不會解決</span><span class="push-right">63F 01/30 10:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/beryll/push?y=15" target="_blank">beryll</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 然後等著統一 好棒棒</span><span class="push-right">64F 01/30 10:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ARodGodlike/push?y=15" target="_blank">ARodGodlike</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 爽領退休金跟財團政府一起炒房 年輕人房子都買不起</span><span class="push-right">65F 01/30 10:54</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ARodGodlike/push?y=15" target="_blank">ARodGodlike</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 薪水也沒增長 物價一直上漲 誰敢生小孩</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ko2042002/push?y=15" target="_blank">ko2042002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 每次都在那一付看到問題 可是這些有權力改的人都無作為</span><span class="push-right">67F 01/30 10:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oldbear/push?y=15" target="_blank">oldbear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 什麼時候歸零?</span><span class="push-right">68F 01/30 10:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donatello/push?y=15" target="_blank">donatello</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨跟財團已經是共生關係了 解決問題=自殺</span><span class="push-right">69F 01/30 11:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/knives/push?y=15" target="_blank">knives</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 寒假作業寫完囉,可以放寒假了,真好每年都複製貼上</span><span class="push-right">70F 01/30 11:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xc332211/push?y=15" target="_blank">xc332211</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 等2016就多了</span><span class="push-right">71F 01/30 11:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jaguars33/push?y=15" target="_blank">jaguars33</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 少的都是9.2 台灣就有救了</span><span class="push-right">72F 01/30 11:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acbwanatha/push?y=15" target="_blank">acbwanatha</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 20年後 ,還有2千萬人。人還是太多了</span><span class="push-right">73F 01/30 11:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/testSV/push?y=15" target="_blank">testSV</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 問題不是總人口 而是老人的比例 7,8年級老的時候會超慘</span><span class="push-right">74F 01/30 11:19</span></div>
一針見血 7,8年級老的時候真的會超慘非常慘
9.10.11.12年級人更少負擔卻更重 不要對7.8年級來一場革命就萬幸了
<span class="record">※ 編輯: sinana (220.136.115.191), 01/30/2015 11:27:29</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arcc/push?y=15" target="_blank">arcc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 示警完了,接下來讓我們繼續關心扁案</span><span class="push-right">75F 01/30 11:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Liking/push?y=15" target="_blank">Liking</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 示警我也會,想點辦法好嗎</span><span class="push-right">76F 01/30 11:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acbwanatha/push?y=15" target="_blank">acbwanatha</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那是那個時候的老人的爸媽太自私,生了太多了。</span><span class="push-right">77F 01/30 11:35</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acbwanatha/push?y=15" target="_blank">acbwanatha</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 為什麼那個時候的人的錯,要我們這一代來負擔啊</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loki1789/push?y=15" target="_blank">loki1789</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 悲慘世代...</span><span class="push-right">79F 01/30 12:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ebeta/push?y=15" target="_blank">ebeta</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 又要引進外勞了</span><span class="push-right">80F 01/30 12:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rainbow321/push?y=15" target="_blank">rainbow321</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就是這些爛閣員放任炒房低薪責任制,會這樣很正常</span><span class="push-right">81F 01/30 12:30</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rainbow321/push?y=15" target="_blank">rainbow321</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看來要自己存退休金了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pida5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">pida5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 無所謂 就給他倒吧 賺退休金都來不及了誰管這些</span><span class="push-right">83F 01/30 12:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leterg/push?y=15" target="_blank">leterg</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 現在都自動化,人少一點才是王道</span><span class="push-right">84F 01/30 13:22</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leterg/push?y=15" target="_blank">leterg</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 叫大家生,但又無法保障大家又好的工作</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">civiliza</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實是一種群智,英國黑死病因為勞動力銳減,幸存的勞力要求更高的薪酬,改變了中世紀權力結構,農民起義及光榮革命。不過現在不是封閉國家,那群"王八國王"肯定是會叫著引進勞力,如果"農民勞工"擋不住,就永遠中世紀台灣啦</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">civiliza</span><span style="color:#808000">:KTM不倒,台灣不會好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a888s</span><span style="color:#808000">:無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態無政府狀態</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">free_man</span><span style="color:#808000">:法西斯:口袋飽了洞也挖好了,爛攤子那個誰快來接。(招手)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:再怎麼開放移民也不應該開放給支那人皮畜</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:去你媽的支那人皮畜</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">r2fsiyg</span><span style="color:#808000">:政府一直不去管世界倒數第一的生育率,就是為了要讓中共的人進來增加票數</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">r2fsiyg</span><span style="color:#808000">:看看各種年金、保險都要倒了,眼睛還看不出來這政府希望台灣毀滅嗎?</span>
讚 free_man:油電雙漲和高房價低所得是主因,始作俑者是誰很清楚。
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lin12345678</span><span style="color:#808000">:KMT害的~~~第一次政黨輪替後開始惡搞~~等再次上台則是遇到昏君~~ WTF</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aluba088</span><span style="color:#808000">:馬 : 我聽到了</span></div></pre>
molisten
不解決真正的問題,一味「相信政府」能「召喚秩序」,國家反而愈來愈亂
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8s8N
2015-01-30T12:23:19+08:00
2015-01-30T17:43:02+08:00
http://www.thenewslens.com/post/37893/
法國大革命的慘痛教訓:不解決真正的問題,一味「相信政府」能「召喚秩序」,國家反而愈來愈亂
在最近的台灣,「暴民」變成一個很好用的詞。許多人拿來指責那些敢於衝撞體制的抗議者。很多人往往舉出「法國大革命」後出現的「民粹主義」(populism)一詞,來攻擊這些暴民的行為會給國家帶來災害。但在討論這些暴民的行為是否恰當前,或許可以先了解一下這些暴民究竟是從哪裡冒出來?何以會越來越多?我們不妨就以讓民粹一詞聞名的法國大革命經驗,來探討一下究竟如何能遏止暴民的出現。
在談法國大革命前,先聽聽馬基維利 (Niccolò Machiavelli)一種有趣的分類法。在《佛羅倫薩史》第三卷第一章中,馬基維利區分了兩種不同的革命衝突。一種是「羅馬式」的,而另一種是「佛羅倫薩式」的。他讚揚羅馬式的革命衝突,認為這種衝突會讓國家在衝突中越趨強盛。而他則抨擊佛羅倫薩式的衝突,認為這種衝突最終只有帶給國家災難與破壞。
這兩種衝突的差異在哪裡呢?馬基維利認為羅馬式的革命圖的是「擴張貴族階級」,也就是促進階級流動,讓下層階級能加入社會的中堅 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> molisten (molisten)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 不解決真正的問題,一味「相信政府」能「召喚秩序」,國家反而愈來愈亂<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2015年01月30日 Fri. PM 12:23:19</div><hr color="#008080" />
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法國大革命的慘痛教訓:不解決真正的問題,一味「相信政府」能「召喚秩序」,國家反而愈來愈亂
<div class="long_string">在最近的台灣,「暴民」變成一個很好用的詞。許多人拿來指責那些敢於衝撞體制的抗議者。很多人往往舉出「法國大革命」後出現的「民粹主義」(populism)一詞,來攻擊這些暴民的行為會給國家帶來災害。但在討論這些暴民的行為是否恰當前,或許可以先了解一下這些暴民究竟是從哪裡冒出來?何以會越來越多?我們不妨就以讓民粹一詞聞名的法國大革命經驗,來探討一下究竟如何能遏止暴民的出現。</div>
<div class="long_string">在談法國大革命前,先聽聽馬基維利 (Niccolò Machiavelli)一種有趣的分類法。在《佛羅倫薩史》第三卷第一章中,馬基維利區分了兩種不同的革命衝突。一種是「羅馬式」的,而另一種是「佛羅倫薩式」的。他讚揚羅馬式的革命衝突,認為這種衝突會讓國家在衝突中越趨強盛。而他則抨擊佛羅倫薩式的衝突,認為這種衝突最終只有帶給國家災難與破壞。</div>
<div class="long_string">這兩種衝突的差異在哪裡呢?馬基維利認為羅馬式的革命圖的是「擴張貴族階級」,也就是促進階級流動,讓下層階級能加入社會的中堅,進而擴張能穩定社會的中產力量。因此這種革命最後能導向理性而有建設性的結局。然而佛羅倫薩式的革命,卻是要把所有人拉入下層階級。用簡單的方式來比喻,就是一種「我吃不到,那就把鍋砸了,大家都沒得吃。」的革命。馬基維利認為正是這兩種目的上的差異,讓每個革命的國家走向不一樣的結果。</div>
<div class="long_string">那麼若是馬基維利的分類有道理,那法國大革命最後走向「民粹」,是否便是由於這個革命的目的錯了?從結果來看,法國大革命造成的確實是徹底擊垮了當時法國由貴族、資產家、城市中產階級所構築的法國上層社會。但這是法國大革命一開始就設定好的目標嗎?歷史的弔詭往往便在於事態的發展超越當時人們所希望的方向。</div>
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<div class="long_string">其實法國大革命一開始的目標,便是一個「理性、中道」的改革。甚至連改革都稱不上,因為法國大革命一開始,其實源自於法國貴族與法皇路易十六(Louis XVI)的內鬥。我們不如先來看看是哪些原因刺激了法國大革命的發生:</div>
<div class="long_string">1. 國家要破產了。1786年8月20日,卡隆(Charles Alexandre de Calonne)向路易十六上奏,1786年的法國歲入將達到大約四億七千五百萬里弗(livre),而開支將達到五億八千七百萬里弗。</div>
<div class="long_string">2. 法國物價大幅波動。法國先是經歷了1770年代和1780年代連續的穀物歉收,1788則是乾旱與暴雨齊至。唯一豐收的只有葡萄酒,但過度豐收的結果是價格暴跌。法國農民陷入普遍的破產,也造成以糧食為首的物價大幅上漲。</div>
<div class="long_string">3. 內需消費市場崩盤。物價上漲造成法國的城市平民必須把大部分的收入拿來買日常必需品與儲蓄,造成內需市場崩潰,大規模的不景氣壟罩法國全境。</div>
<div class="long_string">4. 自由貿易協議帶來的經濟傷害。1786年「英法貿易條約」生效,在法國需求疲弱的時候帶來大量廉價商品供給,給虛弱的法國經濟帶來最後一擊。法國的本地中小產業幾乎全面崩潰。</div>
<div class="long_string">然而當時法國的「貴族」與「教士」兩階級卻享有大量的「免稅特權」。因此在法國大革命的第一階段,便是法王路易十六試圖擴大徵稅標準,要求特權階級納稅。而一開始對路易十六「首開第一槍」的便是這些特權份子。</div>
<div class="long_string">路易十六在1787年2月22日試圖召開「顯貴會議」,要求貴族乖乖納稅。而貴族為了反擊,開始了「貴族起義」到處散發鼓吹「反對君主專制」、「反對中央集權」、「制憲」的小冊子與宣傳物。</div>
<div class="long_string">而皇室為了反擊貴族,便開始透過「巴黎議會」尋求首都巴黎的中下階級支持。這便是法國大革命「三級議會」出現的背景。可以說在革命的一開始,法國的中下階層反而是與皇室緊密合作的。他們共同的敵人則是享有特權的貴族階級,因此訴求只是「體制內的皇權改革」。這點完全能從當時表達政治訴求的「請願書」中表露出來: </div>
<div class="long_string">「選舉過程本身非常有助於資產階級的政治化,他們準備了第三等級在城市的陳情書。在城鎮,他們的準備工作主要由一些團體如行會、社團和特別關注地方上不滿的市政委員會來組織。另外,他們也贊成定期召開全國三級會議,並且根據人頭投票,廢除貴族的免稅權和任官的特權門路,以及廢除國內關卡以刺激經濟等措施。『在一些問題上,如廢除領主稅、鬻官、貿易行會、廢除什一稅,或沒收教會財產,這些陳情書顯得十分謹慎。他們不願攻擊財產權,甚至說是贊成有限的改革而非進行劇烈的變革。』」來源:《劍橋國別史叢書-法蘭西的榮耀與堅持》</div>
而在鄉村的情況:
<div class="long_string">「絕大多數的農村陳情書,雖然常常追隨城市模式,但主要關心地方上特有的不滿、領主稅、什一稅,和他們視為額外的稅捐所帶來的負擔。『農村大眾的緊張關係-在富人和窮人之間-在由農村資產階級或富農所準備的陳情書中很少能夠反映出來。雖然反應將公用地圈為私有和否認窮人慣有的權利並非不尋常;然而這表現出農村城市間的敵意,認為城鎮是徵稅官員、商人、依人維生的高級教士和剝削農民之在外地主的居住地。但是,舊政權的主要制度並未受到真正的責問』」來源《劍橋國別史叢書-法蘭西的榮耀與堅持》</div>
而當時法國人對於革命的冷感也反映在三級議會的議員選舉上:
<div class="long_string">「在盧昂周圍的農村教區,只有23%的人民擁有選舉資格的人參與投票。在城市本身有40%。在阿爾薩斯,50%~60%的選民在斯特拉斯堡(Strasbourg)和科爾馬(Colmar)參與投票。令人驚奇的是,在巴黎只有大約30%的人參與,這也許意味著在政治覺醒上的發展比歷史學家要我們相信的小的多。」來源:《劍橋國別史叢書-法蘭西的榮耀與堅持》</div>
<div class="long_string">也因此在革命的開端,根本無人會預料到之後的革命會走向完全不同的激進後果。但若我們將中間的混亂發展加以整理,則會得到幾個誘發革命激進化的軸線: </div>
(1) 特權階級堅持反改革
<div class="long_string">在「貴族起義」階段,貴族以各種論述來捍衛自身。甚至不惜以激進的言詞攻擊與特權階級為敵的「中、下階層」以及「皇室」。這點從革命初期的各種政治文宣以及1789年5月28日發生的「雷威榮事件」(Réveillon Riots,或譯為「黑維雍暴動」、「通宵騷亂」)的始末中可以看出。</div>
此外從革命初期開始,就一直發生特權階級透過大大小小的陰謀手段來阻撓改革進行。而每當這樣陰謀發生,就更挑起群眾的怒火,使革命越趨激進。
<div class="long_string">其中最著名的就是激發「國民議會」成立的「三級議會分裂事件」。1789年5月6日,貴族階級與教士階級的議員,故意把平民階級議員排除單獨開會。而到了5月13日,貴族階級更單方面宣稱成立「貴族議會」要求平民階級只能「派代表列席」。而在平民階級派代表向路易十六發起抗爭後,6月6日教士會議更以要求平民會議派代表去協商「賑濟巴黎貧民」的問題,陰謀以此建立由貴族教士主導會議的正當性。這些手段使得平民階級憤而自行組成「國民議會」。</div>
<div class="long_string">然而6月20日貴族又透過影響國王,讓路易十六封鎖原本屬於國民議會的會議室。並只以低階禮賓官通知,來暗喻國王並不承認國民議會的地位。此舉便逼出了法國大革命中最重要的「網球場宣誓」。</div>
<div class="long_string">而接著路易十六又輕信保守貴族的建議,將當時提出改革案的財相尼克爾(Jacques Necker)免職,激發了7月12日由笛穆藍(Camille Desmoulins)所帶領的全面暴動(有趣的是,從笛穆藍在革命後期不惜正面對抗羅伯斯比(Maximilien de Robespierre)的激進政策而被處死,可以看出他若非被特權階級徹底激怒,他其實並非是一個非常激進的人)。而這場暴動擴張到7月14日,才造成「老兵養老院」與「巴士底監獄」的陷落。</div>
<div class="long_string">在革命前後。這些特權階級不負責任的發言與攻擊言論,還有頻頻爆發的小手段。不只激起了中下階層的敵對意識;更在革命開始後,成為坐實各種「貴族陰謀」謠言的最佳根據,而這些謠言成為了革命中後期心理上煽動群眾的最佳驅力。 </div>
(2) 政權領導者的無能
<div class="long_string">縱使到了巴士底監獄陷落後,路易十六仍然是法國平民階級所歸心的領袖。這點從9月1日國民會議仍以684對335票通過賦予路易十六對政策具有「否決權」一案中可以看出。而在稍早的7月17日路易十六從凡爾賽巡幸巴黎的遊行中,革命派更在議會外牆寫出頌揚路易十六為「法蘭西國民之父」、「自由民之王」的佈置。</div>
<div class="long_string">但相對的路易十六卻一直在立場上反覆不定。最早是路易十六希望透過中下階級的支持來收回貴族的財政特權,才開啟了一連串的事端。但在民眾基於貴族打壓而開始以自身力量反抗後,路易十六的立場反而倒向貴族。在6月20日的網球場宣誓與7月12日暴動開始後,路易十六都扮演了支持貴族打擊平民的角色。而在9月18日與10月4日,路易十六也都發表了對國民議會通過的法案反對的聲明。</div>
<div class="long_string">但是就算如此,到1789年10月前,平民階級仍然始終相信路易十六能夠收拾亂局,將改革導回體制內。但10月2日晚間,在皇后與其他貴族的陰謀下,凡爾賽宮的禁衛軍集體宣示重新效忠國王。因此又逼出了「凡爾賽婦女大遊行」事件。這次的事件讓民眾對國王,乃至對當時法國政權的信任感產生徹底動搖。也逼迫路易十六從凡爾賽宮搬回巴黎。</div>
<div class="long_string">就在如此惡劣的狀態下,國民議會仍然試圖做出挽回皇權的努力。那就是以國民議會中的多數黨領導人「米拉波」(Honoré Gabriel Riqueti, comte de Mirabeau)所做的組閣嘗試。米拉波持續說服路易</div>
<div class="long_string">十六與皇后接受國民議會,並在國民議會中為路易十六在新憲法中的權力辯護,試圖在兩者間找到均衡。米拉波在激進派的威脅下,仍是爭取到拉法葉(Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette)的支持,讓宣戰與外交等權力留在路易十六手上。</div>
<div class="long_string">但最終路易十六卻無法信任米拉波,並接受米拉波努力促成的與國民議會和解。而國民議會的激進派也不支持米拉波組閣,因此在內外交逼下,米拉波因而病死。在病死前,米拉波曾向路易十六獻策應該相信法國國民對重建秩序的願望。縱使巴黎激進派較多,只要路易十六願意遷到法國其他地方,便能脫離激進派掌握,重建穩健的君主立憲。</div>
<div class="long_string">但路易十六卻在米拉波死後選擇背棄法國國民,直接流亡海外。此舉直接徹底摧毀法國全體國民對路易十六僅存的一點信任,路易十六至此被視為叛國者。這不只確定了他自己與王后的死刑,更讓法國大革命最後一絲回歸體制的希望消失,於是法國便陷入了激進革命的階段。 </div>
(3) 改革者的急功近利
<div class="long_string">在路易十六出逃失敗後,法國人民便拋下路易十六,開始尋找新的支持對象,希望能夠收拾亂局,早日回復憲政常軌。這時出來競逐的便是溫和的「吉戎地黨」(Girondist,或譯為「吉倫特派」),與激進的「雅各賓黨」(Jacobin)。而當時圍繞在兩黨間的競爭議題則是「路易十六的處置」與「法國對外關係的政策成敗」。</div>
<div class="long_string">當時的法國政治陷入一種詭局。一方面吉戎地黨在處置路易十六的問題上處處希望能護衛他的生命。促使法院判決路易十六逃亡無罪。但又為了討好法國國民,壓下雅各賓黨的激進訴求在平民中的支持,便暗中策劃了網球場宣誓三週年紀念式上的「侮辱國王事件」。又試圖營造新政府有力的假象,先是向奧國宣戰,又向比利時、荷蘭輸出革命。此舉激發了週遭君主制國家對法國的不滿而紛紛對法開戰。最後這些自作聰明的政策反而逼的吉戎地政權迅速瓦解。</div>
<div class="long_string">而雅各賓黨所採用的策略就是利用吉戎地黨的政策來借力使力。先是利用「侮辱國王事件」所爆發的激情來擴大騷動,製造更嚴重的對立。接著更利用法軍戰敗與奧軍「保衛法國皇權」的政治號召,坐實「路易十六通敵」的謠言。在1792年8月10日「攻陷丘勒里宮」,正式讓法國波旁王朝滅亡。而之後雅各賓黨便藉由「打擊反革命陰謀」,開始一步一步增加恐怖統治的支持與正當性,最後終於使得法國大革命變質。</div>
如果按照史實直接解讀,能夠得到的「法國大革命激進化原因」,就大致如同上面三種。但若是從更深處來看,則另外又能看到三種原因:
一、無論是路易十六還是法國平民,每個人都試圖依賴他人的力量來達成自己的願望
<div class="long_string">從一開始,路易十六在面對貴族特權時,便妄想依賴法國中產階級與平民的力量來對付貴族。相對的,法國中產階級與平民在革命的前、中期,也是非常依賴路易十六,一直將路易十六的動向當作收拾亂局的關鍵。然而這種自己不想承擔風險,或自認為無法承擔責任的心態,便是造成法國大革命屢次出軌,最終破局的最大原因。因為在每一次事態發生,或是出現圓滿落幕的機會時,都因為各方期待對方有所作為,使得最後誰都不作為。緊接而來的就是互相的失望與不信任,造成更大的混亂與衝突。</div>
<div class="long_string">這種心態也造成後期無論吉戎地黨或雅各賓黨紛紛走向政治投機的原因。沒有人認真的打算面對當時法國一團混亂的憲政、經濟、政治問題。只打算靠政治表演或表態來衝高政治支持。這背後的心態仍是認為自己無能面對亂局,而把希望寄託在平民的高支持上。</div>
<div class="long_string">而平民也一直在尋找能讓自己寄託的「強人」,因此當路易十六這個神主牌垮掉後,「恐怖統治者」便成為了平民寄託的最佳對象。而在恐怖統治者也無法壓住亂局時,平民便尋找更強悍的「軍事強人」,乃至「新皇帝」。這也說明了為何最終拿破崙能夠脫穎而出。 </div>
二、法國群眾當時依賴的對象均為「個人」、「黨派」,而非「具體政策」
<div class="long_string">縱貫法國大革命前後,整個政治討論的重點仍在「人」的身上。從路易十六懷疑卡隆或尼克爾能否信任;到群眾懷疑路易十六能否信任,乃至最終吉戎地黨或雅各賓黨為了爭取平民信任而大玩政治表態。每個人在乎的只是對方的「立場」、「忠誠」、「為人」、「態度」,這些無聊又枝微末節的小事。卻沒有一個人思考哪一個「具體政策」能夠真正解決法國的困境。人的討論駕凌政策的討論,也是法國大革命失敗的主因之一。</div>
<div class="long_string">最關鍵的例子就是在革命中期,米拉波空有圓滿解決國王與議會對立的政策。但礙於米拉波私生活淫亂的情聖形象,使得他在議會與皇室間處處受到質疑。相反的由於幫助美國獨立而聲名遠播的拉法葉,空有名聲卻對當時的亂局毫無對策。因此米拉波必須浪費大筆時間來勸說拉法葉支持他。而等到拉法葉轉向時,米拉波生命已所剩無幾,最後空留遺恨。</div>
<div class="long_string">反觀美國的《聯邦黨人文集》,反映出的是開國初期「聯邦黨」與「民主共和黨」爭辯的核心始終是「政策」與「制度」。而非傑佛遜、漢密爾頓等人的為人是否值得信任之類的蠢事。由此觀之「不以人舉言,不以人廢言」恐怕才是社會改革能否成功的關鍵因素之一。 </div>
三、法國國民普遍對混亂與衝突欠缺耐心
<div class="long_string">與一般後世的印象不同,法國人當時並非喜歡騷亂。相反的法國人無論在革命的哪一個階段,都極端的厭惡騷亂。在巴士底監獄剛被攻陷時,以巴黎為首的法國各大城市立即組成「國民衛隊」(National Guard),四處鎮壓暴民與匪徒。而無論前期支持路易十六,或是後期支持雅各賓黨,又或是最終支持拿破崙,其實都反映了法國群眾在心態上對「秩序」的渴望。</div>
<div class="long_string">然而正是這種「召喚秩序」的心態,令法國大革命「越來越亂」、「越來越激進」。因為法國當時的問題均是「結構問題」,每一個都要花費時間仔細的拆解,並重新建立健康的社會結構。而在這「拆解-建立」的過程中必然會發生動盪、騷亂、衝突。但法國民眾卻對這樣的過程欠缺耐心,均要求每一個階段的主政者務必迅速還給他們正常的秩序生活。因而主政者最後只能訴諸看似又快又有效的「烏托邦主義」(Utopianism)政策,又或是「強力鎮壓」。</div>
<div class="long_string">但這樣的做法必然是造成某些人直接慘遭犧牲,而問題卻沒有真的被解決。於是又激起更大規模的反撲,又召喚更強大的秩序力量加以鎮壓。於是就在擺盪間,法國大革命由一場簡單的皇權內鬥,成為了讓法國整個社會崩潰的重大災難。</div>
<div class="long_string">回到台灣當前的狀況。台灣現在最危險的便是社會上有許多人開始對學運以來的社會衝突開始感到不耐,希望能快點「恢復常軌」。但台灣當前所面臨的問題,卻是橫跨「憲政」、「經濟」、「國土規劃」、「環保」、「外交」、「社會結構」、「世代正義」等全面性的「結構問題」。而這些問題反映的便是幾十年來,由於人民對公共事務普遍不積極,放任代議政客與官僚亂搞所形成的危局。</div>
<div class="long_string">這些問題如果想用簡單的方法混過去,又或是如同以前一樣「相信政府」。那可是會完全犯了如同法國民眾,在開始時輕忽財政改革背後的整體結構問題,最後又盲信路易十六一樣的慘況。這種依賴秩序混日子而不想承擔改革成本的行為,才是真正會害台灣垮台陷入長期動亂的元兇。</div>
<div class="long_string">反而是<span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F0F000">趁台灣尚未走到如此凶險的局面之前,趕快撥出一些時間來關心「政策」,討論「政策」與「制度」的缺失。從自己開始參與公共事務,並做好長時間全民共同負擔改革成本的心理準備,才是讓台灣真正能長治久安的方法。</span></span></div>
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[新聞] 義大世界47億賣中資
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> gy5566gy (gy5566gy)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [新聞] 義大世界47億賣中資<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Jan 30 09:11:57 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
1.媒體來源:豬油<a href="http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/business/paper/851859" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/business/paper/851859</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/business/paper/851859" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>義大世界47億賣中資 - 財經 - 自由時報電子報</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="250" data-ori_h="250" style="width:250px;height:250px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://news.ltn.com.tw/images/all/250_ltn.png" alt="[圖]" /></div>繼聯眾不鏽鋼廠售予中國鞍鋼後,義联集團最新又變賣股權,將旗下義大開發及酒店授予中資色彩濃厚的港商嘉年華國際,出脫股權最高達8成,變現至少47億元台幣。義联集團表示,目前還在談判階段,釋股尚未最終定案。港商嘉年華國際公告 ...</div></div>
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<div class="combine-lines">〔記者羅倩宜/台北報導〕繼聯眾不鏽鋼廠售予中國鞍鋼後,義联集團最新又變賣股權,
將旗下義大開發及酒店授予中資色彩濃厚的港商嘉年華國際,出脫股權最高達8成,變現
至少47億元台幣。義联集團表示,目前還在談判階段,釋股尚未最終定案。</div>
港商嘉年華國際公告
<div class="combine-lines">香港商嘉年華國際去年7月與義联簽訂意向書,擬收購義大開發4成股權,不過根據嘉年華
國際28日公告,收購規模已增至81%,擬斥資台幣47.37億元 。義大開發目前擁有南台灣
最大主題樂園(義大遊樂世界公園)以及購物廣場(義大世界購物廣場)。此外,嘉年華
也將買下園區內的兩家酒店,包括義大皇家酒店19%股權,收購金額5.03億元;天悅酒店4
成股權,收購價待定。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">義联集團發言體系表示,嘉年華國際的最新公告僅屬收購意向表達,目前股權釋出規模及
價格都還在談判,尚未最後定案。市場估計,上述收購金額總計超過60億元,嘉年華表示
7成將以現金支付,等於義联集團未來將有40億元現金進帳。對於傳聞已久的財務危機,
不無小補。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">去年8月,義联旗下中國廣州不鏽鋼廠聯眾驚爆財務危機,恐遭中國抽銀根,不過隨即獲
得中國國營鋼廠鞍鋼出手相救,以9.22億元人民幣取得聯眾不鏽鋼廠6成股權。但該案是
由聯眾現金增資6成,由鞍鋼認購,因此母集團義联未有現金入帳,僅是暫解財務危機,
龐大的銀行貸款由鞍鋼一起分攤。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">義联集團除了鋼廠之外,其他投資事業尚包括義守大學、義大醫院,義大開發是義联集團
在鋼鐵業之外的版圖擴張,斥資逾300億興建的主題樂園及購物廣場,在2010年啟用時蔚
為話題,2012年集團負責人林義守甚至表示加碼200億元再興建2期園區。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">嘉年華國際表示,未來將以參股、合資和合作等形式,與義联共同開發台灣及中國的遊樂
、酒店及商場業務。嘉年華國際具中資色彩,董事會主席景百孚靠北京盛邦投資公司發跡
,2001年入主中國電腦大廠實達後,實達官方控制人國務院旗下的國資委退出,足見其政
治影響力。目前嘉年華主要業務為主題樂園、酒店、零售業、住宅等開發案,在青島、北
京、成都皆有投資,過去一年公司股價漲了4倍。景百孚因此躍升中國富比世富豪榜第75
名。</div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silentence/push?y=15" target="_blank">silentence</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ZZZZzzz</span><span class="push-right">45F 01/30 09:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/losterchen/push?y=15" target="_blank">losterchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中資沒有買違建喔 XD 你誤會了</span><span class="push-right">46F 01/30 09:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/carlos5978/push?y=15" target="_blank">carlos5978</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 犀牛改成 義大中國牛好了</span><span class="push-right">47F 01/30 09:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/susanna026/push?y=15" target="_blank">susanna026</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 用買的統一比較快吧?</span><span class="push-right">48F 01/30 09:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pigofwind/push?y=15" target="_blank">pigofwind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 義大開發是包含了義大樂園跟mall ?</span><span class="push-right">49F 01/30 09:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sammin/push?y=15" target="_blank">Sammin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 買台灣比打台灣便宜多了...</span><span class="push-right">50F 01/30 09:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eatpeanut/push?y=15" target="_blank">eatpeanut</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 聽我朋友說只有醫院賺吧 今年尾牙只有醫院有辦...XD</span><span class="push-right">51F 01/30 09:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Leo4891/push?y=15" target="_blank">Leo4891</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 義大擴張太快欠錢用齁? 這算不算賣台阿</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/30 09:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/syk1104/push?y=15" target="_blank">syk1104</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 總統府怎不賣中資...一群喪權辱國的蠢蛋...</span><span class="push-right">53F 01/30 09:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Leo4891/push?y=15" target="_blank">Leo4891</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不要要把義大樂園模式搬到中國嗎? 看來現在只能說科科</span><span class="push-right">54F 01/30 09:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/archon/push?y=15" target="_blank">archon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中國一堆比義大更大的樂園... 是要搬什麼模式...</span><span class="push-right">55F 01/30 09:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dearjohn/push?y=15" target="_blank">dearjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 義大不意外,未來輪替後等著被當成弊案打爆XDXD</span><span class="push-right">56F 01/30 09:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeneaqa1/push?y=15" target="_blank">jeneaqa1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的害死人了</span><span class="push-right">57F 01/30 09:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NowQmmmmmmmm/push?y=15" target="_blank">NowQmmmmmmmm</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就愛去中國投資咩 中國鋼價比青菜還便宜虧了一堆</span><span class="push-right">58F 01/30 09:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AlexKo</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AlexKo/push?y=15" target="_blank">AlexKo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 小巨人給了這麼利多給義大,最後全盤被中國端走,真爽</span><span class="push-right">59F 01/30 09:30</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xisland/push?y=15" target="_blank">xisland</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 通到高鐵的捷運咧</span><span class="push-right">60F 01/30 09:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Re12345/push?y=15" target="_blank">Re12345</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬英九:鮭魚返鄉阿!!</span><span class="push-right">61F 01/30 09:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/melissatw/push?y=15" target="_blank">melissatw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 愛捧他們的LP嘛!你到底做了什麼事</span><span class="push-right">62F 01/30 09:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kis28519/push?y=15" target="_blank">kis28519</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 以後大家的小孩都當中國奴</span><span class="push-right">63F 01/30 09:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾</span><span class="push-right">64F 01/30 09:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OoJudyoO/push?y=15" target="_blank">OoJudyoO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 基本上那個中資沒在怕賠錢的</span><span class="push-right">65F 01/30 09:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eatpeanut/push?y=15" target="_blank">eatpeanut</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 基本上他們在中國也被當地政府裱過....XD</span><span class="push-right">66F 01/30 09:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace1way/push?y=15" target="_blank">peace1way</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 義大那個山頭的開發,當初小巨人可是用政府資源給了多</span><span class="push-right">67F 01/30 09:40</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace1way/push?y=15" target="_blank">peace1way</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 少方便及幫忙,結果就這樣子整碗要送中國?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/valenci/push?y=15" target="_blank">valenci</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 樓上這樣說很奇怪,這樣好像給義大可以,轉給外資就不行</span><span class="push-right">69F 01/30 09:42</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/valenci/push?y=15" target="_blank">valenci</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 要是不行一開始就不行,而不是感歎現在被中資捧去吧。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MIT8818/push?y=15" target="_blank">MIT8818</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 向本土銀行貸款壯大事業,再把事業賣給中國</span><span class="push-right">71F 01/30 09:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ev331/push?y=15" target="_blank">ev331</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 快拆啊</span><span class="push-right">72F 01/30 09:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dragon2000/push?y=15" target="_blank">dragon2000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 台灣遲早被這些無良商人賣光</span><span class="push-right">73F 01/30 09:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ev331/push?y=15" target="_blank">ev331</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就拱你啊 站都站不穩 還貪得無厭 野心太大</span><span class="push-right">74F 01/30 09:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lineagjason/push?y=15" target="_blank">lineagjason</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 本業惨兮兮....</span><span class="push-right">75F 01/30 09:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a31670323/push?y=15" target="_blank">a31670323</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 賣台</span><span class="push-right">76F 01/30 09:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/horsetail/push?y=15" target="_blank">horsetail</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 以後大家的老闆都是大陸人了</span><span class="push-right">77F 01/30 09:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Qimagine/push?y=15" target="_blank">Qimagine</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唉。</span><span class="push-right">78F 01/30 09:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/octopus4406/push?y=15" target="_blank">octopus4406</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹</span><span class="push-right">79F 01/30 09:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AkumaII/push?y=15" target="_blank">AkumaII</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 難怪會90度鞠躬了 哈哈</span><span class="push-right">80F 01/30 09:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/misson/push?y=15" target="_blank">misson</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很久沒去了</span><span class="push-right">81F 01/30 09:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/colorsplash/push?y=15" target="_blank">colorsplash</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唉</span><span class="push-right">82F 01/30 09:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/susanna026/push?y=15" target="_blank">susanna026</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 怎麼會賣成這樣呢?在來 太魯閣 日月談 都會賣吧?</span><span class="push-right">83F 01/30 09:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/somefatguy/push?y=15" target="_blank">somefatguy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹2016還要多久阿</span><span class="push-right">84F 01/30 09:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/l83OGC5566/push?y=15" target="_blank">l83OGC5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可憐鬼島</span><span class="push-right">85F 01/30 10:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/reil/push?y=15" target="_blank">reil</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 義大吃政府全民的,然後賣給大陸</span><span class="push-right">86F 01/30 10:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace305/push?y=15" target="_blank">peace305</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 標準的淘空TW啊</span><span class="push-right">87F 01/30 10:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vacawind/push?y=15" target="_blank">vacawind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 用台灣的地變賣給大陸......</span><span class="push-right">88F 01/30 10:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EvilPrada/push?y=15" target="_blank">EvilPrada</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媽的 當初楊秋興那個背骨仔 利用縣長職權"幫忙"義大</span><span class="push-right">89F 01/30 10:14</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EvilPrada/push?y=15" target="_blank">EvilPrada</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 世界 不知道讓義大賺了多少 現在竟然要拿去奉送給支</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EvilPrada/push?y=15" target="_blank">EvilPrada</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那仔? 陳菊麻煩趕快去查背骨仔當初的弊案 別睡了好嗎</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dynamo/push?y=15" target="_blank">dynamo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不賣給中國不然要怎麼辦? 政府要收嗎?</span><span class="push-right">92F 01/30 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ching620/push?y=15" target="_blank">ching620</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看來統一不遠了……</span><span class="push-right">93F 01/30 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsien1105/push?y=15" target="_blank">hsien1105</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 林董親中 被吃不意外</span><span class="push-right">94F 01/30 10:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ccucwc/push?y=15" target="_blank">ccucwc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 總統府一坪怎麼賣?</span><span class="push-right">95F 01/30 10:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/adiharu/push?y=15" target="_blank">adiharu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾集團</span><span class="push-right">96F 01/30 10:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gowellplayer/push?y=15" target="_blank">gowellplayer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ....</span><span class="push-right">97F 01/30 10:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jukuan/push?y=15" target="_blank">jukuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ...</span><span class="push-right">98F 01/30 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kevin80112/push?y=15" target="_blank">kevin80112</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還指望蔡英文咧.... 談到錢藍綠一家親好嗎^.<</span><span class="push-right">99F 01/30 10:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/freemail/push?y=15" target="_blank">freemail</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾</span><span class="push-right">100F 01/30 10:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lucy07030703/push?y=15" target="_blank">lucy07030703</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 按</span><span class="push-right">101F 01/30 10:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row" data-cover="1"><div class="PttPushCoverStr pointer" title="此推文已被隱藏,點此顯示">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beek</span> <span style="color:#008000">…</span></div><div class="PttPush hide"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/beek/push?y=15" target="_blank">beek</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 南部要賣給中國囉</span><span class="push-right">102F 01/30 10:39</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hvhiiavjqmp/push?y=15" target="_blank">hvhiiavjqmp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 以後在台灣生活的台灣人要給大陸人過路費</span><span class="push-right">103F 01/30 10:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goddarn/push?y=15" target="_blank">goddarn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹他媽的 有完沒完</span><span class="push-right">104F 01/30 10:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/beryll/push?y=15" target="_blank">beryll</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可惡 好想趕快投票選立委</span><span class="push-right">105F 01/30 10:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serica/push?y=15" target="_blank">serica</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不久人民幣應該就可以在台灣流通</span><span class="push-right">106F 01/30 10:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sunchen0201/push?y=15" target="_blank">sunchen0201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超棒的 以後大家都是偉大的中國人!昂首闊步的中國人!</span><span class="push-right">107F 01/30 10:49</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣的財團越大越沒用,越大害台越深。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">JAPCHINK</span><span style="color:#808000">:這真是狽骨楊小猩的政績延續啊!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:賣光就統了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gerte0415</span><span style="color:#808000">:好多鮭魚都變中資鮭魚了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">B053253</span><span style="color:#808000">:賣台12建設 入肉 ~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">crinch</span><span style="color:#808000">:學校順便賣一賣啦! 越來越像學店! 一堆人準備變台幹了!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gin1980624</span><span style="color:#808000">:最後大財團都自己錢賺飽飽就好,哪管政治的問題</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gin1980624</span><span style="color:#808000">:,商人無祖國是嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cgm23013</span><span style="color:#808000">:感謝祖國 讚嘆祖國</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">PCP</span><span style="color:#808000">:義大也沒多好,Outlay一堆26沒啥賣點</span>
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讚 free_man:支那人不是很愛坑殺鬼島人嗎? 那也讓中資進來就死。
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這次的爆料將要揭開一個深遠、龐大而且令人恐懼的陰謀!
涉及角色之大、用計之遠是超越過去大家所能想像的
還是要請大家深呼吸一口氣
一步一步了解我這次要講的事
我還是先從容易談的事情說起好了
我先前有特別點出一件事
2014年11月5日經濟部和納閩島簽了MOU
而中國五大官股銀行中的中國工商銀行就在大約一周前
也傳出消息要在納閩島設立分行
跟連家和國民黨非常要好的兆豐金也在納閩有分行
納閩這個地方背後隱隱暗藏著玄機
其實呢 納閩島就是中國海上絲綢之路計劃的一個隱秘而重要的據點!
習近平在這一兩年推動了一項外交貿易複合計劃
叫做一帶一路
一帶指的就是絲綢之路經濟帶
也就是建設中亞鐵路把中國到德國聯結起來 讓中國可以直接連接歐洲
一路指的是習近平在2013提出的21世紀海上絲綢之路計劃
這個計劃的核心其實就是以東協聯盟和中國的合作為核心
21世紀海上絲綢之路的戰略合作伙伴並不僅限與東盟
而是以點帶線,以線帶面,增進同沿邊國家和地區的交往
串起連通東盟、南亞、西亞、北非、歐洲等各大經濟板塊的市場鏈
發展面向南海、太平洋和印度洋的戰略合作經濟帶,
以亞歐非經濟貿易一體化為發展的長期目標
而這個海上 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> bugbook (光與闇的消逝之所)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Fw: [爆卦] IOI的終極陰謀-海上絲路統戰戰略<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Jan 30 00:44:59 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PublicIssue </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Fant1408 ( )<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [核爆] IOI的終極陰謀-海上絲路統戰戰略<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Jan 30 00:27:39 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
這次的爆料將要揭開一個深遠、龐大而且令人恐懼的陰謀!
涉及角色之大、用計之遠是超越過去大家所能想像的
還是要請大家深呼吸一口氣
一步一步了解我這次要講的事
我還是先從容易談的事情說起好了
我先前有特別點出一件事
2014年11月5日經濟部和納閩島簽了MOU
而中國五大官股銀行中的中國工商銀行就在大約一周前
也傳出消息要在納閩島設立分行
跟連家和國民黨非常要好的兆豐金也在納閩有分行
納閩這個地方背後隱隱暗藏著玄機
其實呢 納閩島就是中國海上絲綢之路計劃的一個隱秘而重要的據點!
習近平在這一兩年推動了一項外交貿易複合計劃
叫做一帶一路
一帶指的就是絲綢之路經濟帶
也就是建設中亞鐵路把中國到德國聯結起來 讓中國可以直接連接歐洲
<div class="combine-lines">一路指的是習近平在2013提出的21世紀海上絲綢之路計劃
這個計劃的核心其實就是以東協聯盟和中國的合作為核心
21世紀海上絲綢之路的戰略合作伙伴並不僅限與東盟</div>
而是以點帶線,以線帶面,增進同沿邊國家和地區的交往
串起連通東盟、南亞、西亞、北非、歐洲等各大經濟板塊的市場鏈
發展面向南海、太平洋和印度洋的戰略合作經濟帶,
以亞歐非經濟貿易一體化為發展的長期目標
而這個海上絲路計劃中一個非常重要的參與者 就是IOI的李深靜
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福建四市共謀“海絲” 華商“有機可乘”
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海外華商覓“海絲”商機
據中新社消息,300余海外華商8日會聚廈門,在第八屆海外華商中國投資峰會(簡稱“海
華會”)上,探討投資中國及“海絲”發展的機遇。
“本屆海華會將充分發揮海外華商的優勢,大力引導他們參與21世紀海上絲綢之路建設和
中國區域發展進程,尋求新的事業發展機遇,互利共贏。”國務院僑辦副主任莊榮文表示
。
莊榮文指,打造“21世紀海上絲綢之路”,增強了中國與沿線國家的深入合作,搭建了廣
闊的合作平台,促進了沿線國家的經濟發展與共同富強。
馬來西亞IOI集團主席李深靜、頂級手套集團主席林偉才、印尼材源帝財團主席黃雙安、泰
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國中華總商會常務董事丁文志、菲律賓菲華聯誼總會理事長楊思育等海外僑領參加了本次
海華會。
而李深靜在廈門的投資 也是這個計劃的一環
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今年2月份舉辦的《2014年廈門市商務和投資促進工作會議》上,廈門市副市長張燦民對外
透露:目前在福建省工作會議上提出,廈門要跟福州、平潭共同申報“海西自貿區”。“
海西自貿區”申報思路也由此首次被公之於眾。
籌備至今,福建自貿區的定位也日漸清晰,即以兩岸經貿合作為核心,打造21世紀海上絲
綢之路經貿合作前沿平台。福建省商務廳副廳長鐘木達稱,自貿園區是福建省參與建設“
一帶一路”的新載體,福建應以自貿園區為新抓手,全面拓展與“海絲”沿線國家的交流
合作,為建設21世紀海上絲綢之路探索新途徑。18日,福州自貿區籌備工作領導小組召開
第一次會議,福州市委書記楊岳表示,自貿區建設要找准定位,突出區域特色,要以兩岸
經貿合作為核心,發揮福州獨特的對台優勢,加強對台投資、貿易、航空、金融、旅遊、
農業等方面的先行先試。
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簡單說 台灣是中國海洋戰略啟動的其中重要一環
接著來看看李深靜在廈門所參與的內容
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合作领域基础设施、贸易金融、双向投资、海洋合作、旅游会展和人文交流等六大领域重点项目将推动生成一批“海丝”外资重点招商项目,并依托我市企业优势,赴“一带一路”沿线国家和地区投资保障措施我市从建立工作机制、优化外部环境、加大政府扶持、强化宣传推广四大方面保障实施本报讯(记者崔昊)在昨日举行的2014厦门国际海洋周上,针对“海上丝绸之路与蓝色经济合作”这一主题,厦门融入21世纪海上丝绸之路的蓝图也揭开面纱。
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31個重點項目 推動深度融合
為了充分發揮我市在改革開放中的先行先試優勢以及與“一帶一路”沿線國家在口岸交通
、貿易往來、雙向投資、人文交流基礎較好的獨特優勢,在六個重點領域,《行動方案》
有針對性地列出31個重點項目,努力推動廈門與“一帶一路”沿線國家和地區的深度融合
,為深化國際區域合作創造新經驗。
記者觀察到,翔安機場、東渡郵輪母港、中國—東盟海洋合作中心、郵輪東盟友好航線、
嘉庚論壇、廈門大學馬來西亞分校等項目被悉數納入。
值得注意的是,雙向投資領域的重點項目共計17個,佔項目總數一半以上,馬來西亞IOI棕
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櫚油加工項目、廈門金旅客車菲律賓散件組裝項目等均在列。
到目前為止 可能都還會有人問說李深靜只是正常投資 對台灣好像也沒什麼不利之處
納閩島又和上面這些事情有什麼關係
答案就在底下這個連結中
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亞太開發投資銀行 Asia Pacific Development & Investment Bank (APDIB),是為了貫徹
執行中華人民共和國中央政府“絲綢之路經濟帶”和“21世紀海上絲綢之路”的戰略規劃
,由南京市政府全資擁有的金融控股投資集團,於2014年籌建、註冊在馬來西亞納閩聯邦
直轄區的法人投資銀行。總部設在馬來西亞首都吉隆坡。
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這四行字 字字珠璣 大家一定要認真地讀認真地推敲
建議大家再看一下這個設在馬來西亞的中國國有銀行的關注領域
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中國這樣躲在境外為了特定戰略目的的國有銀行非常的多
但大多都藏的非常隱秘
所以再請問財政部
怎麼就這麼剛好IOI要來買101
就恰好跟納閩島簽了MOU
然後頂新該還的錢在IOI資金進來之後也全都乖乖到位
然後魏應充就神奇的放出來
馬總統也開始神彩奕奕
如果魏應充最後還是輕判 頂新該拿的也都是照拿走 或是IOI最後真的買下101股權
我想可以開始追查國民黨和馬政府到底背後有沒有搞鬼了
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dian9/push?y=15" target="_blank">dian9</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">36F 01/30 02:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/QAOa/push?y=15" target="_blank">QAOa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">37F 01/30 02:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nineuniverse/push?y=15" target="_blank">nineuniverse</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: .</span><span class="push-right">38F 01/30 03:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joe2233/push?y=15" target="_blank">joe2233</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">39F 01/30 03:16</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joe2233/push?y=15" target="_blank">joe2233</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">41F 01/30 03:20</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ERIE34/push?y=15" target="_blank">ERIE34</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫高調 早點推爆讓更多人知道</span><span class="push-right">43F 01/30 04:26</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/candice0/push?y=15" target="_blank">candice0</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">48F 01/30 05:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cityfrighten/push?y=15" target="_blank">Cityfrighten</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">49F 01/30 05:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tuscany/push?y=15" target="_blank">Tuscany</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">50F 01/30 05:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wuhaha13116/push?y=15" target="_blank">wuhaha13116</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真希望誰可以擋下他....</span><span class="push-right">51F 01/30 06:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jojoStar/push?y=15" target="_blank">jojoStar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: LOL</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/30 06:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tcboy/push?y=15" target="_blank">tcboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ...</span><span class="push-right">53F 01/30 06:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/epyonwing/push?y=15" target="_blank">epyonwing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">54F 01/30 06:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pkjkimo/push?y=15" target="_blank">pkjkimo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調~~馬桶貪腐集團正展開反撲</span><span class="push-right">55F 01/30 07:24</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Arks/push?y=15" target="_blank">Arks</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">57F 01/30 07:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cymine/push?y=15" target="_blank">cymine</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ......</span><span class="push-right">58F 01/30 07:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ian90911/push?y=15" target="_blank">ian90911</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">59F 01/30 07:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/regeirk/push?y=15" target="_blank">regeirk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">60F 01/30 07:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/revony/push?y=15" target="_blank">revony</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">61F 01/30 07:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tggbtggb/push?y=15" target="_blank">tggbtggb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">62F 01/30 07:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">63F 01/30 07:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lohandon/push?y=15" target="_blank">lohandon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">64F 01/30 07:50</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Mnpp/push?y=15" target="_blank">Mnpp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這</span><span class="push-right">68F 01/30 08:21</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/deliciouspie/push?y=15" target="_blank">deliciouspie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調!!</span><span class="push-right">70F 01/30 08:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jarry011/push?y=15" target="_blank">jarry011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">71F 01/30 08:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tuutu/push?y=15" target="_blank">tuutu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 請加入廉政委員會</span><span class="push-right">72F 01/30 08:33</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/njrmp/push?y=15" target="_blank">njrmp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">74F 01/30 08:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/frogha1/push?y=15" target="_blank">frogha1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">75F 01/30 08:49</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">MonkReginald</span><span style="color:#808000">:幫高調</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">MonkReginald</span><span style="color:#808000">:事實上根本不用小心</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">MonkReginald</span><span style="color:#808000">:負責人如果是中國主義的就要小心拉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:很簡單,成立個地下組織,專門暗殺這些賣國狗,牠們就不敢再囂張下去</span>
讚 maxleave5:推</div></pre>
Gnome
Re: [轉錄] 台灣推動與中國簽署六項新協議
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8rNG
2015-01-27T19:54:05+08:00
2015-01-28T14:12:48+08:00
把更新的東西補一下: ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Gnome ()<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [轉錄] 台灣推動與中國簽署六項新協議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Jan 27 19:54:05 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
把更新的東西補一下:
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有版友形容的很貼切:
<div class="ansi">互設辦事處的嚴重性相當於安裝了<span class="fgY1 bgR">hao123</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satosi011/push?y=15" target="_blank">satosi011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 為什麼互設辦事處會變成內政問題?台灣在美國也有</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satosi011/push?y=15" target="_blank">satosi011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以台美關係是?</span></div>
關於台米關係,以下是本人拙見:
台灣是美國把拔贏了二戰的戰利品,總統府只是裝飾品,真正老大是AIT。
米國只是沒點破而已,<span style="color:#F0F000">ROC只是米方在台的PROXY</span>。
台灣關係法裡寫得很清楚:
<span style="color:#008080">台灣關係法是保護台灣和澎湖人民,不是ROC宣稱的台澎金馬。</span>
今天國際上不承認ROC,也就是其實領ROC身分證的人都是國際難民。
今天大家還活得好好的,就是因為台灣有武裝有軍隊,有米國輸血的科技。
今天支那想在台灣設點,就是想搞支米共治實質化。決不能讓支那得逞!
所以,駐美大使沈呂巡在面對立委質詢雙橡園升旗事件時說得沒錯,<span style="color:#F0F000">台美沒有外交關係。</span>
沈沒講出口得是:台美是內政,所以台灣關係法是美國國內法。
我們選總統,就是在選PROXY的頭。所以總統候選人選前都要去米國訪(面)問(試)。
不用去支那訪(面)問(試),是因為根本不干支那的事。
但是從國際秩序來看,米國在第一層級,支那惡國在第二層。
所以,台灣的總統候選人,米國還是想辦法讓支那不要跳腳。
習近平說:太平洋夠大容得下中美兩國發展
就是想打破米國二戰後建立的東亞秩序,不勞而獲取得東亞勝利果實。
為什麼支那會有這樣的肖想呢? 因為PRC想要直接繼承ROC前朝是二戰戰勝國的事實。
所以支那要用力地紀念南京大屠殺,凸顯日本是戰敗國的事實,幫自己立牌坊。
聽說,過一陣子,支那要進行大閱兵,也是這個原因。
換句話說:
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgY1 bgR">PRC覺得自己是二戰的戰勝國</span>,可以不勞而獲取得瓜分太平洋戰爭勝利大餅的資格。</div>
<div class="ansi">支那把<span style="color:#F0F000">台灣關係法</span>稱為<span class="fgY1 bgR">與台灣關係法</span>也是在這種心態作祟下的結果。</div>
若支那在台設辦事處成功,名稱一定要很小心,肯定對台灣的自治事實不利。
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF">既然有</span><span class="fgW1 bgL">c</span><span class="fgW1 bgR">h</span><span class="fgW1 bgL">r</span><span class="fgW1 bgR">o</span><span class="fgW1 bgL">m</span><span class="fgW1 bgR">e</span><span style="color:#FFF">了(雖然很吃$記$憶$體)。那為什麼還要安裝</span><span class="fgY1 bgR">★hao123?</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/homeaki/push?y=15" target="_blank">homeaki</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 閱讀障,請說結論</span><span class="push-right">1F 01/27 19:57</span></div>
結論就是:
支那想要分台灣這塊美國的保護地,想要透過滲透ROC這個PROXY,來取得資格。
取得台灣後,最終目標就是學大日本帝國一樣,稱霸東亞,打破二戰後的東亞遊戲規則。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orinoco/push?y=15" target="_blank">orinoco</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就是說米國在台設辦事處因為台是米國勢力範圍</span><span class="push-right">2F 01/27 20:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到hao123 真是冷汗直流 = =</span><span class="push-right">3F 01/27 20:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orinoco/push?y=15" target="_blank">orinoco</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 若讓中國也在台設辦事處 等於讓台灣也變成中國的勢力範圍</span><span class="push-right">4F 01/27 20:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orinoco/push?y=15" target="_blank">orinoco</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我們就變成雙姓家奴了</span></div>
沒錯,既然很吃記憶體的chrome很好用,為什麼還要安裝hao123呢?
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kenick/push?y=15" target="_blank">kenick</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫高調 又被婉君洗上去了</span><span class="push-right">6F 01/27 20:03</span></div>
一貼完,文章就增加超快捏~ 好奇怪喔~
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THX~~>"<~~
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/homeaki/push?y=15" target="_blank">homeaki</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">8F 01/27 20:25</span></div>
THX~~o'_'o
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 第四頁了</span><span class="push-right">9F 01/27 20:26</span></div>
洗好快..._(:3」∠)_...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/huijun/push?y=15" target="_blank">huijun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">10F 01/27 20:42</span></div>
THX......_(:3」∠)_...
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讚 Schatten:要了解現在這政府到底跟中共在幹嘛 只能靠外媒的報導了
讚 goest101:法律位階:台灣關係法 >>>>> 種花冥國憲法
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.voacantonese.com/content/taiwan-zhangzhijun-20150121/2607263.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">VOA 2015.1.21 台灣宣佈國台辦主任張志軍下個月訪問金門</a>......據悉,王郁琦和張志軍此次會晤,將針對[0w]與金門相關的議題進行討論,也會討論陸委會和國台辦持續協商的陸客中轉、區域經濟合作、互設辦事機構等議題。[/]</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Schatten</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20150126003656-260409" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">中時 2014.1.26 王張會2月7日~2月9日 金門登場</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gcfans</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇比喻的還蠻清楚的</span>
讚 salrcab1995:推</div></pre>
lrouvbey9653
Re: [轉錄] 台灣推動與中國簽署六項新協議
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8rND
2015-01-27T14:29:19+08:00
2015-01-28T14:12:37+08:00
懶人包:
1) 削減進口關稅
2) 在對方設立類似領事館的機構
→ 讓敵國來台設置有法律保護傘的情蒐、統戰前哨站?
3) 避免雙重徵稅
4) 有關投資爭議解決
5) 環境合作
6) 民航安全
看起來要談的事項都超級冠冕堂皇的
但既然對台灣有這麼大的幫助 怎麼不在媒體宣傳一下呢^ ^
這種有利政策當然不能被柯文哲的相關報導蓋過去呀^ ^
來源:美國之音中文網
http://www.voachinese.com/content/taiwan-china-politics-20150120/2605908.html
台湾推动与大陆签署六项新协议
台湾政府不顾不断升高的反对声音,希望与政治宿敌中国大陆签署六项新协议,同时加强与持怀疑态度的民众沟通,更密切地与立法院合作,推动其雄心勃勃的大陆政策。 ...
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台北—台灣政府不顧不斷升高的反對聲音,希望與政治宿敵中國大陸簽署六項新協議
,同時加強與持懷疑態度的民眾溝通,更密切地與立法院合作,推動其雄心勃勃的大陸政
策。
台灣和大陸間的政治鬥爭已經進行了65年,現在雙方希望就改善經濟、投資和 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> StarryBlue (星藍)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [轉錄] 台灣推動與中國簽署六項新協議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Jan 27 14:29:19 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
懶人包:
<span style="color:#F0F000">1) 削減進口關稅</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">2) 在對方設立類似領事館的機構</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ 讓敵國來台設置有法律保護傘的情蒐、統戰前哨站?</span>
<span style="color:#008080">3) 避免雙重徵稅</span>
<span style="color:#008080">4) 有關投資爭議解決</span>
<span style="color:#008080">5) 環境合作</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">6) 民航安全</span>
看起來要談的事項都超級冠冕堂皇的
但既然對台灣有這麼大的幫助 怎麼不在媒體宣傳一下呢^ ^
這種有利政策當然不能被柯文哲的相關報導蓋過去呀^ ^
<span class="record">※ 引述《Gnome ()》之銘言:</span>
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PublicIssue </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Gnome ()<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] 台灣推動與支那簽署六項新協議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Jan 27 09:45:44 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
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<div class="combine-lines"> 台北—台灣政府<span style="color:#F0F000">不顧不斷升高的反對聲音,希望與政治宿敵中國大陸簽署六項新協議</span>
,同時加強與持懷疑態度的民眾溝通,更密切地與立法院合作,推動其雄心勃勃的大陸政
策。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 台灣和大陸間的政治鬥爭已經進行了65年,現在雙方希望就改善經濟、投資和貿易條
件達成6項新協議。台灣陸委副主委吳美紅在接受美國之音採訪時說,<span style="color:#008080">只要徵詢了立委和</span>
<span style="color:#008080">普通民眾的意見,就應當繼續推動這些協議。</span><span style="color:#008080">[編按]見鬼了,普通民眾是誰?</span></div>
<div class="ansi">台北和北京政府希望簽署重要協議,<span style="color:#F0F000">削減進口關稅</span>,<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">在對方設立類似領事館的機構</span></span>,並就</div>
<span style="color:#F0F000">避免雙重徵稅</span>尋求一致。 雙方還可能簽署有關<span style="color:#F0F000">投資爭議解決</span>、<span style="color:#F0F000">環境合作</span>以及<span style="color:#F0F000">民航安全</span>等
方面的協議。這些問題都曾在2014年初的一次會晤中提及。吳美紅說,今年可望取得進展。
<div class="combine-lines"> 她說:「任何一項共識的達成,<span style="color:#F0F000">我們要做好內部的溝通</span>,以及國會的監督,之後就會
來舉行會談,簽署協議。因此這是未來有可能處理的議題。這個部分是年底前兩岸協商的
部分,不是單方嘛。這個還要看整個議題推動的進展。」 <span style="color:#008080">中國大陸自20世紀40年代內戰</span>
<span style="color:#008080">結束以來一直聲稱對自治的台灣擁有主權。</span>馬英九總統2008年當選總統以來雙方關係有所
緩和,並就21項貿易協議展開談判。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 但是台灣去年爆發大規模抗議活動,反對馬英九政府擴大與北京的關係。一些分析人
士認為,國民黨因其大陸政策而受到傷害,導致他們在去年11月的地方選舉中失去九個職
位。因總統任期限制,馬英九明年五月大選之後將卸任。</div>
吳美紅說,即將通過的法案要求在大陸政策上加強與公眾交流,加強立法監督。台灣
<div class="ansi">政府<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">將利用法案的有關條款,克服公眾對未來六項協議的反對。</span></span>這位副主委補充說,大</div>
陸應當尊重台灣的公共輿論,幫助改善兩岸關係。陸委會發現70%的台灣民眾反對在一國
兩制的基礎上實現統一, 80%的民眾希望保持台灣自治的現狀。
吳美紅說:「其實這樣的立場,我們也跟大陸方面做了說明。他們也能夠了解。我們
認為,大陸應該尊重,也要重視台灣的這種民意反應。」
台灣政府要贏得民眾支持,時間不多了。選民明年將選舉新的總統。分析人士說,
對政府大陸政策的批評將對國民黨的選戰產生負面影響。
<div class="combine-lines"> 台灣智囊的副主席賴怡忠提醒說,如果陸委會與大陸簽署六項協議, 台灣社會將更
加分裂。但是他說,國民黨雖遭遇政治失敗,但他們看來決心繼續實施親大陸的政策。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 他說:「他們可能繼續一意孤行,這會給台灣造成更多裂隙。馬英九政府目前的態度
是,我知道2016年5月以後不會再執政了,我只做自己想做的事情。」 政治觀察人士說,
兩岸關係去年受挫令大陸不安,但中共領導人會繼續與台灣會談,達成他們希望有助於台
灣經濟的協議,從而為國民黨贏得下次大選爭取選票。</div>
<div class="ansi">這麼重要的事情,竟然<span style="color:#F00000">媒體都噤聲</span>,還得讓<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">VOA美國之音</span></span>來提醒我們。</div>
整理一下:這六項協議包含了:
<span style="color:#F0F000">1) 削減進口關稅</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">2) 在對方設立類似領事館的機構</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ 讓敵國來台設置有法律保護傘的情蒐、統戰前哨站?</span>
<span style="color:#008080">3) 避免雙重徵稅</span>
<span style="color:#008080">4) 有關投資爭議解決</span>
<span style="color:#008080">5) 環境合作</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">6) 民航安全</span>
因此,這六項協議有包含<span style="color:#808000">「互設辦事處」</span>
有包含<span style="color:#F0F000">「互設辦事處」</span>
<div class="ansi"> 有包含<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">「互設辦事處」</span></span><span style="color:#FFF">很重要所以講三遍!</span></div>
要和撕毀中英聯合聲明的某國談協議,呵呵,善良的胖虎。
記得以前<span style="color:#008080">陸委會說:門啪開,溫顧厝。</span>
<div class="ansi">現在看起來比較像:<span style="color:#008080">門啪開,</span><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">溫作夥放火燒厝...</span></span></div>
全部都是柯文哲的新聞...幫高調一下,感謝!
<div class="combine-lines">看到某些白目跑去問送終,然後又故意去跟英國人咬耳朵,挑撥離間。
然後鬧上BBC,然後又自嗨寫新聞。忽略重要的大事,簡直令人髮指。
阿...又開始洗文惹...翻好幾頁惹...Q_Q</div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">tkgw</span><span style="color:#808000">:國民黨不倒 台灣不會好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:以後泛藍的那些走狗們,可以天天到中聯辦當小李子了。</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">twus</span><span style="color:#808000">:M19,賣台賊。就是你的歷史定位。</span>
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[轉錄] 台灣推動與中國簽署六項新協議
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2015-01-27T10:09:59+08:00
2015-01-28T14:12:32+08:00
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台湾推动与大陆签署六项新协议
台湾政府不顾不断升高的反对声音,希望与政治宿敌中国大陆签署六项新协议,同时加强与持怀疑态度的民众沟通,更密切地与立法院合作,推动其雄心勃勃的大陆政策。 ...
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最後更新20.01.2015 23:26
台北—台灣政府不顧不斷升高的反對聲音,希望與政治宿敵中國大陸簽署六項新協議
,同時加強與持懷疑態度的民眾溝通,更密切地與立法院合作,推動其雄心勃勃的大陸政
策。
台灣和大陸間的政治鬥爭已經進行了65年,現在雙方希望就改善經濟、投資和貿易條
件達成6項新協議。台灣陸委副主委吳美紅在接受美國之音採訪時說,只要徵詢了立委和
普通民眾的意見,就應當繼續推動這些協議。[編按]見鬼了,普通民眾是誰?
台北和北京政府希望簽署重要協議,削減進口關稅,在對方設立類似領事館的機構,並就
避免雙重徵稅尋求一致。 雙方還可能簽署有關投資爭議解決、環境合作以及民航安全等
方面的協議。這些問 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Gnome ()<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [轉錄] 台灣推動與中國簽署六項新協議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Jan 27 10:09:59 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> PublicIssue </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Gnome ()<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] 台灣推動與支那簽署六項新協議<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Jan 27 09:45:44 2015</div><hr color="#008080" />
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<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.voachinese.com/content/taiwan-china-politics-20150120/2605908.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>台湾推动与大陆签署六项新协议</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="987" data-ori_h="768" style="width:987px;height:768px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://gdb.voanews.com/827F7BCE-F059-4499-A0E6-B4AF85027F58_cx29_cy25_cw71_mw1024_mh1024_s.png" alt="[圖]" /></div>台湾政府不顾不断升高的反对声音,希望与政治宿敌中国大陆签署六项新协议,同时加强与持怀疑态度的民众沟通,更密切地与立法院合作,推动其雄心勃勃的大陆政策。 ...</div></div>
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<div class="combine-lines"> 台北—台灣政府<span style="color:#F0F000">不顧不斷升高的反對聲音,希望與政治宿敵中國大陸簽署六項新協議</span>
,同時加強與持懷疑態度的民眾溝通,更密切地與立法院合作,推動其雄心勃勃的大陸政
策。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 台灣和大陸間的政治鬥爭已經進行了65年,現在雙方希望就改善經濟、投資和貿易條
件達成6項新協議。台灣陸委副主委吳美紅在接受美國之音採訪時說,<span style="color:#008080">只要徵詢了立委和</span>
<span style="color:#008080">普通民眾的意見,就應當繼續推動這些協議。</span><span style="color:#008080">[編按]見鬼了,普通民眾是誰?</span></div>
<div class="ansi">台北和北京政府希望簽署重要協議,<span style="color:#F0F000">削減進口關稅</span>,<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">在對方設立類似領事館的機構</span></span>,並就</div>
<span style="color:#F0F000">避免雙重徵稅</span>尋求一致。 雙方還可能簽署有關<span style="color:#F0F000">投資爭議解決</span>、<span style="color:#F0F000">環境合作</span>以及<span style="color:#F0F000">民航安全</span>等
方面的協議。這些問題都曾在2014年初的一次會晤中提及。吳美紅說,今年可望取得進展。
<div class="combine-lines"> 她說:「任何一項共識的達成,<span style="color:#F0F000">我們要做好內部的溝通</span>,以及國會的監督,之後就會
來舉行會談,簽署協議。因此這是未來有可能處理的議題。這個部分是年底前兩岸協商的
部分,不是單方嘛。這個還要看整個議題推動的進展。」 <span style="color:#008080">中國大陸自20世紀40年代內戰</span>
<span style="color:#008080">結束以來一直聲稱對自治的台灣擁有主權。</span>馬英九總統2008年當選總統以來雙方關係有所
緩和,並就21項貿易協議展開談判。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 但是台灣去年爆發大規模抗議活動,反對馬英九政府擴大與北京的關係。一些分析人
士認為,國民黨因其大陸政策而受到傷害,導致他們在去年11月的地方選舉中失去九個職
位。因總統任期限制,馬英九明年五月大選之後將卸任。</div>
吳美紅說,即將通過的法案要求在大陸政策上加強與公眾交流,加強立法監督。台灣
<div class="ansi">政府<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">將利用法案的有關條款,克服公眾對未來六項協議的反對。</span></span>這位副主委補充說,大</div>
陸應當尊重台灣的公共輿論,幫助改善兩岸關係。陸委會發現70%的台灣民眾反對在一國
兩制的基礎上實現統一, 80%的民眾希望保持台灣自治的現狀。
吳美紅說:「其實這樣的立場,我們也跟大陸方面做了說明。他們也能夠了解。我們
認為,大陸應該尊重,也要重視台灣的這種民意反應。」
台灣政府要贏得民眾支持,時間不多了。選民明年將選舉新的總統。分析人士說,
對政府大陸政策的批評將對國民黨的選戰產生負面影響。
<div class="combine-lines"> 台灣智囊的副主席賴怡忠提醒說,如果陸委會與大陸簽署六項協議, 台灣社會將更
加分裂。但是他說,國民黨雖遭遇政治失敗,但他們看來決心繼續實施親大陸的政策。</div>
<div class="combine-lines"> 他說:「他們可能繼續一意孤行,這會給台灣造成更多裂隙。馬英九政府目前的態度
是,我知道2016年5月以後不會再執政了,我只做自己想做的事情。」 政治觀察人士說,
兩岸關係去年受挫令大陸不安,但中共領導人會繼續與台灣會談,達成他們希望有助於台
灣經濟的協議,從而為國民黨贏得下次大選爭取選票。</div>
<div class="ansi">這麼重要的事情,竟然<span style="color:#F00000">媒體都噤聲</span>,還得讓<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">VOA美國之音</span></span>來提醒我們。</div>
整理一下:這六項協議包含了:
<span style="color:#F0F000">1) 削減進口關稅</span>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">2) 在對方設立類似領事館的機構</span></span></div>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ 讓敵國來台設置有法律保護傘的情蒐、統戰前哨站?</span>
<span style="color:#008080">3) 避免雙重徵稅</span>
<span style="color:#008080">4) 有關投資爭議解決</span>
<span style="color:#008080">5) 環境合作</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">6) 民航安全</span>
因此,這六項協議有包含<span style="color:#808000">「互設辦事處」</span>
有包含<span style="color:#F0F000">「互設辦事處」</span>
<div class="ansi"> 有包含<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">「互設辦事處」</span></span><span style="color:#FFF">很重要所以講三遍!</span></div>
要和撕毀中英聯合聲明的某國談協議,呵呵,善良的胖虎。
記得以前<span style="color:#008080">陸委會說:門啪開,溫顧厝。</span>
<div class="ansi">現在看起來比較像:<span style="color:#008080">門啪開,</span><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">溫作夥放火燒厝...</span></span></div>
全部都是柯文哲的新聞...幫高調一下,感謝!
<div class="combine-lines">看到某些白目跑去問送終,然後又故意去跟英國人咬耳朵,挑撥離間。
然後鬧上BBC,然後又自嗨寫新聞。忽略重要的大事,簡直令人髮指。
阿...又開始洗文惹...翻好幾頁惹...Q_Q</div>
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阿...推文裡的描述實在太精準了XDDD
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cphsiao</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 辦事處相當於進行安裝 <span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">hao123</span></span></span></div>
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註:底下推文有人問:
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satosi011/push?y=15" target="_blank">satosi011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 為什麼互設辦事處會變成內政問題?台灣在美國也有</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satosi011/push?y=15" target="_blank">satosi011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以台美關係是?</span></div>
關於台米關係,以下是本魯拙見:
<div class="combine-lines"> 台灣是美國把拔贏了二戰的戰利品,總統府只是裝飾品,真正老大是AIT。
米國只是沒點破而已,ROC只是米方在台的PROXY。台灣關係法裡寫得很清楚。
台灣關係法是保護台灣和澎湖人民,不是ROC宣稱的台澎金馬。</div>
今天國際上不承認ROC,也就是其實領ROC身分證的人都是國際難民。
今天大家還活得好好的,就是因為台灣有武裝,有軍隊。有米國輸血的科技。
今天支那想在台灣設點,就是想搞支米共治。我們決不能讓支那得逞!
所以,駐美大使沈呂巡說得沒錯,台美沒有外交關係。
沈沒講出口得是:台美是內政,所以台灣關係法是美國國內法。
我們選總統,就是在選PROXY的頭。所以總統候選人選前都要去米國訪(面)問(試)。
不用去支那訪(面)問(試),是因為根本不干支那的事。
<div class="combine-lines">但是從國際秩序來看,米國在第一層級,支那惡國在第二層。
所以,台灣的總統候選人,米國還是想辦法讓支那不要跳腳。
習近平說:太平洋夠大容得下中美兩國發展</div>
就是想打破米國二戰後建立的東亞秩序,不勞而獲取得東亞勝利果實。
<div class="combine-lines">為什麼支那會這麼肖想呢? 因為PRC想要直接繼承ROC前朝是二戰戰勝國的事實。
所以支那要用力地紀念南京大屠殺,凸顯日本是戰敗國的事實,幫自己立牌坊。
聽說,過一陣子,支那要進行大閱兵,也是這個原因。</div>
換句話說:
PRC覺得自己是二戰的戰勝國,可以不勞而獲取得瓜分太平洋戰爭勝利大餅的資格。
<div class="ansi">支那把<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#008000">台</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">灣</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#008000">關</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">係</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#008000">法</span></span>稱為<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">與台灣關係法</span></span>也是在這種心態作祟下得結果。</div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#FFF">既然已經安裝</span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800000">c</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">h</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800000">r</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">o</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800000">m</span></span><span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#000080">e</span></span><span style="color:#FFF">了,雖然很吃記$憶$體$,為什麼還要安裝</span><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">★hao123?</span></span></div>
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幫高調,感謝!
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如果以國內關係,設立辦事處,就等於台海危機時,內化成國內事務。
國際社會無從插手,美國台灣關係法GG。
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jinkela1/push?y=15" target="_blank">jinkela1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 從松山桃園小港機場進進出出 原po是要閃尿了嗎</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/staristic/push?y=15" target="_blank">staristic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調回來</span><span class="push-right">10F 01/27 10:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/patrol/push?y=15" target="_blank">patrol</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 重點是不能給不信任的人談, 不然誰知道會不會出賣個資</span><span class="push-right">11F 01/27 10:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yannjiunlin/push?y=15" target="_blank">yannjiunlin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 要也是互設大使館~然後在中國護照上貼簽證+出入章</span><span class="push-right">12F 01/27 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hyakko/push?y=15" target="_blank">hyakko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒用的 台灣人只會注意禮貌失言 自己要被賣了還渾然不知</span><span class="push-right">13F 01/27 10:17</span></div>
中共已經有所有台灣人的個資囉...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/resudi/push?y=15" target="_blank">resudi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這些事情都很重要吧...為啥都沒人知道.又想搞黑箱嗎??</span><span class="push-right">14F 01/27 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/patrol/push?y=15" target="_blank">patrol</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 稅務怎麼定, 公開談判嗎?</span><span class="push-right">15F 01/27 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SuperUp/push?y=15" target="_blank">SuperUp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 朕不想讓你知道的事情 媒體不淮報導 一起來噹柯P</span><span class="push-right">16F 01/27 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/staristic/push?y=15" target="_blank">staristic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">17F 01/27 10:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hyakko/push?y=15" target="_blank">hyakko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 矯情又不分輕重 只會注意那些小事 台灣人的特性就這樣</span><span class="push-right">18F 01/27 10:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jinkela1/push?y=15" target="_blank">jinkela1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 設辦事處=國內事務也有點腦補成分了 但隨你開心啦</span><span class="push-right">19F 01/27 10:18</span></div>
奇怪耶,既然互設辦事處這麼棒,那政府為什麼不像美國免簽一樣,大肆宣傳一下?
貼出來質疑一下,怎麼拼命護航? 怪惹,看來有鬼沒錯XD
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/patrol/push?y=15" target="_blank">patrol</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看來馬九不想讓kmt繼續選 寂寞太久打算硬搞的意思...</span><span class="push-right">20F 01/27 10:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/airflow/push?y=15" target="_blank">airflow</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這個政府從不戴套(誤)配套的 避免雙重課稅也會被陰很大!!</span><span class="push-right">21F 01/27 10:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wild2012/push?y=15" target="_blank">wild2012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 假如是國與國當然是互設大使館 沒邦交就只能是個辦事處</span><span class="push-right">22F 01/27 10:20</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wild2012/push?y=15" target="_blank">wild2012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 但是呢 中共一定會蓋個 中國辦事處 馬上把你矮化成領地</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wild2012/push?y=15" target="_blank">wild2012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只要是跟國家國際定位有關係的 中共必定會要台灣矮一截</span></div>
支那連升個KMT的ROC旗都能噴汁惹,顆顆~
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wild2012/push?y=15" target="_blank">wild2012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 2個國家互相課稅沒有問題 但是假如只課一種稅 是統一了?</span><span class="push-right">25F 01/27 10:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hipringles/push?y=15" target="_blank">hipringles</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 別再柯p了,一個臺北市長治理臺灣逆</span><span class="push-right">26F 01/27 10:27</span></div>
我不相信柯文哲的錶有比這些爭議性的協議重要。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wild2012/push?y=15" target="_blank">wild2012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 其他的1.4.5.6 中國項大概只有台灣會遵守 中國必定做表面而已</span><span class="push-right">27F 01/27 10:28</span></div>
中英聯合聲明都能撕毀了,何況是這種協議。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Silverdawn/push?y=15" target="_blank">Silverdawn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 從公然賣變私下賣</span><span class="push-right">28F 01/27 10:30</span></div>
這可能已經賣出經驗了,應該都可以出SOP惹。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoyosunmoon/push?y=15" target="_blank">yoyosunmoon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調推</span><span class="push-right">29F 01/27 10:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/affairria/push?y=15" target="_blank">affairria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這不推怎麼行阿!媒體只知道造謠,重要的事都不報的</span><span class="push-right">30F 01/27 10:34</span></div>
看到某些白目跑去問送終,然後又故意去跟英國人咬耳朵,挑撥離間。
然後鬧上BBC,然後又自嗨寫新聞。忽略重要的大事,簡直令人髮指。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bbnewuser/push?y=15" target="_blank">bbnewuser</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 支持台灣中國互設大使館</span><span class="push-right">31F 01/27 10:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gohrs/push?y=15" target="_blank">gohrs</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">32F 01/27 10:37</span></div>
支那剛剛弄了個靠近海峽中線的航道,應該就是一種逼迫台灣談判就範的手段。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zuiko/push?y=15" target="_blank">zuiko</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹</span><span class="push-right">33F 01/27 10:39</span></div>
這些協議執行之後會符合台灣的利益,還是中國的利益?
陸委會:門啪開,溫顧厝。現在看起來比較像:門啪開,溫放火燒厝。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ECZEMA/push?y=15" target="_blank">ECZEMA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調推 喵的 剩一年也不好好安份</span><span class="push-right">34F 01/27 10:42</span></div>
台獨教父正在為歷史定位努力中,台灣人也要和教父一起努力...!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linfish/push?y=15" target="_blank">linfish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調,台媒不報自己關注</span><span class="push-right">35F 01/27 11:12</span></div>
支那全力收買中!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maskprincess/push?y=15" target="_blank">maskprincess</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫高調</span><span class="push-right">36F 01/27 11:16</span></div>
THX
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/beryll/push?y=15" target="_blank">beryll</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高</span><span class="push-right">37F 01/27 11:24</span></div>
THX
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 司法互信中判決書中出現"我國""中華民國" 26就不採用</span><span class="push-right">38F 01/27 11:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/victoryman/push?y=15" target="_blank">victoryman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 基本互信就做不到 如何做到更高的互信</span></div>
胖虎:依法治國,依中華人民共和國法治國。中華民國是什麼? 可以吃嗎?
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hellstar/push?y=15" target="_blank">hellstar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調高調! 紅衫軍勒??</span><span class="push-right">40F 01/27 11:39</span></div>
愛國同心會表示:
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hochuck/push?y=15" target="_blank">hochuck</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">41F 01/27 11:46</span></div>
THX
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mjumju/push?y=15" target="_blank">mjumju</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唉</span><span class="push-right">42F 01/27 11:51</span></div>
Q_Q...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j31712/push?y=15" target="_blank">j31712</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調,高調,高調,拜託立委補選,千萬不能投給 kmt。</span><span class="push-right">43F 01/27 12:01</span></div>
國共一家親 >///<
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mjumju/push?y=15" target="_blank">mjumju</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 無論如何,大眾有知的權力</span><span class="push-right">44F 01/27 12:21</span></div>
應該一堆人被蒙在鼓裡,莫名其妙就「被送中」了。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FinnF/push?y=15" target="_blank">FinnF</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">45F 01/27 12:21</span></div>
THX
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yatola/push?y=15" target="_blank">yatola</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">46F 01/27 12:26</span></div>
THX
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/modulation/push?y=15" target="_blank">modulation</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看守總統不要有大動作,好嗎?</span><span class="push-right">47F 01/27 12:27</span></div>
大船離港,全速航向冰山。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫高調</span><span class="push-right">48F 01/27 12:32</span></div>
送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=15" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">49F 01/27 12:44</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=15" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 繼續</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=15" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高</span></div>
S大THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ab32110/push?y=15" target="_blank">ab32110</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹!高調</span><span class="push-right">52F 01/27 13:01</span></div>
THX!送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lucy07030703/push?y=15" target="_blank">lucy07030703</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">53F 01/27 13:02</span></div>
THX!送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rayonwu/push?y=15" target="_blank">rayonwu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">54F 01/27 13:02</span></div>
送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">55F 01/27 13:02</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span></div>
L大 THX Q_Q
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tggbtggb/push?y=15" target="_blank">tggbtggb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">57F 01/27 13:08</span></div>
送中正夯! Q_Q...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/regeirk/push?y=15" target="_blank">regeirk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">58F 01/27 13:16</span></div>
Q_Q...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/monglong/push?y=15" target="_blank">monglong</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 送中= =</span><span class="push-right">59F 01/27 13:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tcpic/push?y=15" target="_blank">tcpic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我想問為甚麼要手動至底這篇 裡面會是空白文?</span><span class="push-right">60F 01/27 13:25</span></div>
???
可能是我把本文當成簽名檔,因為支那的ucptt會自動備份所有的PTT文章。
除了簽名擋不會被備份。支那也懂Big Data...把文章還原了,再試試看吧!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sygnuser/push?y=15" target="_blank">sygnuser</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 原來是要把這種新聞洗掉</span><span class="push-right">61F 01/27 13:27</span></div>
洗文量很多
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RickyRubio/push?y=15" target="_blank">RickyRubio</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推推</span><span class="push-right">62F 01/27 13:30</span></div>
送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ptar/push?y=15" target="_blank">ptar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">63F 01/27 13:31</span></div>
送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">64F 01/27 13:35</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span></div>
THX! L大! Q_Q!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vimeo/push?y=15" target="_blank">vimeo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">68F 01/27 13:53</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jason000/push?y=15" target="_blank">jason000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">69F 01/27 14:04</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sunmoongod/push?y=15" target="_blank">sunmoongod</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">70F 01/27 14:07</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">71F 01/27 14:14</span></div>
THX! L大!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a2224488/push?y=15" target="_blank">a2224488</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">72F 01/27 14:15</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/StarryBlue/push?y=15" target="_blank">StarryBlue</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">73F 01/27 14:23</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 原po辛苦了 感謝!</span><span class="push-right">74F 01/27 14:30</span></div>
THX! L大也是! Q_Q...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bryant1228/push?y=15" target="_blank">bryant1228</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">75F 01/27 14:32</span></div>
THX~~
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xmorphlingx/push?y=15" target="_blank">xmorphlingx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">76F 01/27 14:32</span></div>
THX!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rant/push?y=15" target="_blank">rant</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: .....</span><span class="push-right">77F 01/27 14:34</span></div>
THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/damasci/push?y=15" target="_blank">damasci</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 高調</span><span class="push-right">78F 01/27 14:35</span></div>
THX!!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cphsiao/push?y=15" target="_blank">cphsiao</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 辦事處相當於進行安裝 hao123</span><span class="push-right">79F 01/27 14:37</span></div>
靠妖! 實在太精準的比喻了,幫你放進本文!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jnth12/push?y=15" target="_blank">jnth12</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 準備好安裝了嗎?</span><span class="push-right">80F 01/27 14:45</span></div>
hao123+金山毒霸+360衛士+百度殺毒,太棒了!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nflallenou/push?y=15" target="_blank">nflallenou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 安裝完畢 準備起飛?</span><span class="push-right">81F 01/27 14:47</span></div>
和祖國系統無縫接軌,連崩潰也會一起崩潰!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lifecode/push?y=15" target="_blank">lifecode</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">82F 01/27 14:56</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Pmking/push?y=15" target="_blank">Pmking</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 的確不應過度解釋、杯葛 但台媒噤聲也太不專業</span><span class="push-right">83F 01/27 14:59</span></div>
媒體忙著送中!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zainlove/push?y=15" target="_blank">zainlove</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">84F 01/27 14:59</span></div>
THX!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Pmking/push?y=15" target="_blank">Pmking</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 六項應該都可以談 但有無監督、如何監督是個問題</span><span class="push-right">85F 01/27 15:02</span></div>
如果都不知道要談,就沒有監督的問題惹~^.<~
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/birdskingla/push?y=15" target="_blank">birdskingla</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: push</span><span class="push-right">86F 01/27 15:06</span></div>
THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dragoneminem/push?y=15" target="_blank">dragoneminem</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">87F 01/27 15:38</span></div>
THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Singlewing/push?y=15" target="_blank">Singlewing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調!K黨現在能作的大概就時限內盡可能賣台吧,垃圾~</span><span class="push-right">88F 01/27 15:47</span></div>
撈了快跑,機會不再!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovegloria/push?y=15" target="_blank">lovegloria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">89F 01/27 16:00</span></div>
謝謝L大!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satosi011/push?y=15" target="_blank">satosi011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 為什麼互設辦事處會變成內政問題?台灣在美國也有辦事處</span><span class="push-right">90F 01/27 16:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satosi011/push?y=15" target="_blank">satosi011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以台美關係是?</span></div>
把回應放到本文下面附註處,THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HNO3/push?y=15" target="_blank">HNO3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你媽的有夠扯</span><span class="push-right">92F 01/27 16:07</span></div>
整天跟支那眉來眼去,嘖嘖。
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/saint01/push?y=15" target="_blank">saint01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">93F 01/27 16:28</span></div>
THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ben19911991/push?y=15" target="_blank">ben19911991</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">94F 01/27 17:49</span></div>
THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/colordrop/push?y=15" target="_blank">colordrop</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幫推</span><span class="push-right">95F 01/27 18:14</span></div>
THX~Q_Q...
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coldy/push?y=15" target="_blank">coldy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一定要高調的</span><span class="push-right">96F 01/27 18:17</span></div>
感謝高調!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamten/push?y=15" target="_blank">iamten</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: fxck kmt</span><span class="push-right">97F 01/27 18:20</span></div>
THX~!!!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lindviorair/push?y=15" target="_blank">lindviorair</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高</span><span class="push-right">98F 01/27 18:37</span></div>
THX! 送中正夯!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/samuraibin/push?y=15" target="_blank">samuraibin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">99F 01/27 18:55</span></div>
THX!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Trionychidae/push?y=15" target="_blank">Trionychidae</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調幹</span><span class="push-right">100F 01/27 19:13</span></div>
THX~~~Q_Q
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kkenex/push?y=15" target="_blank">kkenex</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">101F 01/27 19:17</span></div>
THX~!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sophiamag19/push?y=15" target="_blank">sophiamag19</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">102F 01/27 19:28</span></div>
THX~!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/popest/push?y=15" target="_blank">popest</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">103F 01/27 19:50</span></div>
THX~!!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/holybless/push?y=15" target="_blank">holybless</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">104F 01/27 19:59</span></div>
感謝!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ru513/push?y=15" target="_blank">ru513</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">105F 01/27 19:59</span></div>
感謝!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nsaids/push?y=15" target="_blank">nsaids</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">106F 01/27 20:09</span></div>
感謝!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yuyun0724/push?y=15" target="_blank">yuyun0724</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調!</span><span class="push-right">107F 01/27 20:12</span></div>
感謝!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/loveian16/push?y=15" target="_blank">loveian16</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">108F 01/27 20:18</span></div>
感謝!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/huijun/push?y=15" target="_blank">huijun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">109F 01/27 20:39</span></div>
感謝!!
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aabbccdd1232/push?y=15" target="_blank">aabbccdd1232</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 已分享高調,共產黨最有信用,馬英九聽力最好</span><span class="push-right">110F 01/27 20:42</span></div>
感溫~_(:3」∠)_...
<span class="record">※ 編輯: Gnome (118.168.0.175), 01/27/2015 20:47:30</span>
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讚 Schatten:跟中共簽約 就是被翻臉不認帳 根本沒有信用價值
→ <span style="color:#FF0">f125539053</span><span style="color:#808000">:推推推~每一次看到這一類消息都心驚膽跳的~!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">letmedie47</span><span style="color:#808000">:國共兩黨的可信度基本為負數</span>
讚 goest101:高調推
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bear6c</span><span style="color:#808000">:除了關心柯P新政外,該把注意力拉回馬英九這裡,在他最後任期內,還可能與中國弄出一些密約之類的,造成不可逆的情形惡搞台灣。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gundonvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:寧願靠美國</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">MindOcean</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/PttGossiping/posts/570198956451106" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/PttGossiping/posts/570198956451106</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道民進黨的縣市,聽不聽的下去,花媽說與大陸直航的班次不夠多要再增加,自經區太小,要再加大,賴神也要爭取直航,民進黨這次選舉大勝,賴神接受民視訪問,說兩岸要共同發展經濟,拋開所有政治問題,將政治問題先放一邊,(我有沒有聽錯,這不是就是被民進黨罵了十幾年的,賣台、終極統一的92共識的內容嗎?)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:不過也真奇怪,這是大陸的網站,而且應該是中國之音吧!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:送鐘! 送鐘! 給國共送鐘, 反對的就是失禮!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">exa1qa</span><span style="color:#808000">:ptdcola 你有點開連結看看嗎? XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Frank168</span><span style="color:#808000">:高調推</span>
讚 salrcab1995:高調
讚 cheng841004:高調!!
→ <span style="color:#FF0">rko0441157</span><span style="color:#808000">:跟英國簽的香港50年不變都可以當放屁了 台灣有主權講給鬼聽</span>
讚 ebso:推高調
→ <span style="color:#FF0">f741asf741as</span><span style="color:#808000">:推高調</span>
讚 Foobarbox:幫高調!!!!!!!! 426 滾啦
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:革命的日子越來越接近囉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Sam101</span><span style="color:#808000">:重要!高調推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yushuo200r</span><span style="color:#808000">:高調</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">animax3</span><span style="color:#808000">:高調</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zzz09120955</span><span style="color:#808000">:高調</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gin1980624</span><span style="color:#808000">:國民兩黨都不可信,到最後和平革命沒用只能用更激進的方式嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bearbigbig</span><span style="color:#808000">:中共只想要台灣的高科技產業去扶植中國產業加速進化,另一個目的就是軍事價值。</span>
讚 hank19900306:高
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sunso9</span><span style="color:#808000">:誰組織一下 準備上街?</span></div></pre>
cosandsin
申請居家照護的看護
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8llt
2014-12-13T17:17:40+08:00
2014-12-13T17:17:40+08:00
我爸在今年12月22日因出血性腦中風~送至A醫院急診~之後~轉至普通病房~目前~家人是請全日班看護一天2000元~最近~醫院通知說~我爸ㄉ生命跡象穩定(血壓心跳正常)~就要辦理出院~但我爸現在的情況是右半身癱瘓~喪失語言能力~仍靠鼻胃管進食~生活無法自理~醫院最多只能給住35天~之後~看家屬是要帶回居家照護或是安排住進安養之家~
之前~有像一些認識ㄉ朋友打聽~現在~我們已經有提出身心障礙手冊~巴氏量表~
未來~打算是帶回居家照護~然後再掛復健科的門診繼續後續的復健!
只是~在未來還需要做些啥準備?一籌莫展~像是申請輔具補助及外籍看護的申請~聽說就要2~3個月~
想請教這裡ㄉ朋友~提供一些意見! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cosandsin (隨星)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 申請居家照護的看護<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年12月13日 Sat. PM 05:17:40</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="long_string">我爸在今年12月22日因出血性腦中風~送至A醫院急診~之後~轉至普通病房~目前~家人是請全日班看護一天2000元~最近~醫院通知說~我爸ㄉ生命跡象穩定(血壓心跳正常)~就要辦理出院~但我爸現在的情況是右半身癱瘓~喪失語言能力~仍靠鼻胃管進食~生活無法自理~醫院最多只能給住35天~之後~看家屬是要帶回居家照護或是安排住進安養之家~</div>
之前~有像一些認識ㄉ朋友打聽~現在~我們已經有提出身心障礙手冊~巴氏量表~
未來~打算是帶回居家照護~然後再掛復健科的門診繼續後續的復健!
只是~在未來還需要做些啥準備?一籌莫展~像是申請輔具補助及外籍看護的申請~聽說就要2~3個月~
想請教這裡ㄉ朋友~提供一些意見!
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<span class="record">※ 作者: cosandsin 時間: 2014-12-13 17:17:40</span></div></pre>
qaz20498p
關於楊實秋議員落敗的問題
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8jrV
2014-11-30T20:19:27+08:00
2014-11-30T20:27:14+08:00
小弟個人最近才知道有議員叫楊實秋 是因為他上政論節目公開批評連勝文讓捷運轉虧為盈的事情
心想連家的勢力這麼大 還敢在電視上說連勝文不是 不怕被怎樣嗎
後續看了他的言論發現他滿正義感的 就覺得做得好或不好是個人行為
並非整個黨都很爛 九合一選舉得知楊實秋議員不幸落敗
剛無聊跑去臉書上搜尋楊實秋 發現他的影片告訴了大家不知道的事情
2014年11月20日楊實秋於臺北市第12屆議員選舉公辦政見發表會發表政見,臺北市議員監督台北市政府,但是由誰來監督台北市議員?民眾可能不知道,議會開會出席費一次就是2,450元,有多少議員僅只簽到而未開會?出席簽到表簽到率百分百,但實際開會狀況卻沒人?楊實秋自2010年7月開始推動,每次開會都要點名並錄影存證,因此實秋用更高的標準來要求自己,楊實秋是個孤獨的人,但不是個高傲的人,實秋不跟議員應酬,也不跟政府官員應酬,更不會因為議員情誼就放棄監督議員,即使我與台北市府同一政黨,但打擊貪腐不分藍綠,我是國民黨議員,但我對國民黨政府的貪腐絕不寬容,也因此歡迎市民來監督楊實秋。
不論11/29投票結果臺北市市長是誰當選,實秋的第一考量永遠是台北市民,實秋身分的優先順 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> qaz20498p (柚子)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 關於楊實秋議員落敗的問題<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月30日 Sun. PM 08:19:27</div><hr color="#008080" />
小弟個人最近才知道有議員叫楊實秋 是因為他上政論節目公開批評連勝文讓捷運轉虧為盈的事情
心想連家的勢力這麼大 還敢在電視上說連勝文不是 不怕被怎樣嗎
後續看了他的言論發現他滿正義感的 就覺得做得好或不好是個人行為
並非整個黨都很爛 九合一選舉得知楊實秋議員不幸落敗
剛無聊跑去臉書上搜尋楊實秋 發現他的影片告訴了大家不知道的事情
<div class="long_string">2014年11月20日楊實秋於臺北市第12屆議員選舉公辦政見發表會發表政見,臺北市議員監督台北市政府,但是由誰來監督台北市議員?民眾可能不知道,議會開會出席費一次就是2,450元,有多少議員僅只簽到而未開會?出席簽到表簽到率百分百,但實際開會狀況卻沒人?楊實秋自2010年7月開始推動,每次開會都要點名並錄影存證,因此實秋用更高的標準來要求自己,楊實秋是個孤獨的人,但不是個高傲的人,實秋不跟議員應酬,也不跟政府官員應酬,更不會因為議員情誼就放棄監督議員,即使我與台北市府同一政黨,但打擊貪腐不分藍綠,我是國民黨議員,但我對國民黨政府的貪腐絕不寬容,也因此歡迎市民來監督楊實秋。</div>
<div class="long_string">不論11/29投票結果臺北市市長是誰當選,實秋的第一考量永遠是台北市民,實秋身分的優先順序,第一順位我是臺北市市民,次之我是臺北市市議員,最後我才會是國民黨的臺北市市議員,因此市民的利益,才是實秋的利益,對抗不法大財團很辛苦,但必須堅持,從新店美河市弊案、松山文創BOT弊案,我也加入雙子星弊案調查小組,楊實秋必須為民眾看管荷包,不能圖利官商勾結。</div>
<div class="long_string">最後楊實秋向各位民眾呼籲,如何看候選人好壞,就看他競選花多少錢,楊實秋競選從不花大錢,我不用宣傳車,不設競選總部,不登車廂廣告,因此我用最少的選舉經費,用最乾淨的方式為臺北市市民服務,如果我花大錢選舉,我就會想撈錢,楊實秋期待,有乾淨的選舉,才能有乾淨的政治,謝謝大家。</div>
這是台北市第12屆議員選舉公辦政見發表會
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這是youtube上的
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像這種事情他也敢勇於說出來 可見是滿正義一心想為民服務的議員
開會出席費一次就2450元有夠好賺的阿 但卻沒議員去開會 他公開說出來算不算檔人財路而因此沒選上阿
真希望政壇上這種人多幾個台灣就會更美好了
這些都是小弟個人淺見 不曉得有沒有松山.信義區選民對他評價如何
不常發文 所以排版有點爛請見諒...
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[問卦] 海水滅蚊,『半座鹽山』入溝中,高雄恐將再度氣爆!
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2014-11-28T12:48:30+08:00
2014-11-28T18:09:00+08:00
前陣子高雄推出用海水滅蚊的奇招,我研究了好久,以下是個人淺見,想與各位討論。
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撰文者│袁暐崴
近期高雄市登革熱疫情大爆發,高雄市政府考量乾季期部份水溝溝底凹凸不平,導致投鹽或投藥效果有限,因此引海水灌入可能孳生病媒疑慮的水溝,期望運用多元防治方法,有效控制水溝孳生病媒蚊。並於本月10日於三民區本館里大興街一帶進行「排水溝渠引入海水防治登革熱病媒蚊計畫」社區實地實驗,將5噸重、鹽度30 PSU的海水注入水溝,希望藉由含鹽濃度高的海水 讓水中的孑孓脫水而死。13日高雄市環保局再度展開海水滅孑孓行動,出動十台汙泥沖吸車,在前鎮漁港載運第一批約六十噸的海水,前往前鎮區瑞和里沖灌側溝。
↑引海水入溝渠滅病媒蚊示意圖(摘自:自由時報)
姑且,先不論該實驗的精確度與對環境生態所造成的衝擊。海洋平均鹽度為35 PSU,高雄市衛生局所採用海水為30 PSU,而所謂的PSU是指:平均每一公升的水含有多少克的鹽類,因此3 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> foxtail (foxtail)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問卦] 海水滅蚊,『半座鹽山』入溝中,高雄恐將再度氣爆!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月28日 Fri. PM 12:48:30</div><hr color="#008080" />
前陣子高雄推出用海水滅蚊的奇招,我研究了好久,以下是個人淺見,想與各位討論。
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<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">撰文者│袁暐崴</span>
<div class="long_string">近期高雄市登革熱疫情大爆發,高雄市政府考量乾季期部份水溝溝底凹凸不平,導致投鹽或投藥效果有限,因此引海水灌入可能孳生病媒疑慮的水溝,期望運用多元防治方法,有效控制水溝孳生病媒蚊。並於本月10日於三民區本館里大興街一帶進行「排水溝渠引入海水防治登革熱病媒蚊計畫」社區實地實驗,將5噸重、鹽度30 PSU的海水注入水溝,希望藉由含鹽濃度高的海水 讓水中的孑孓脫水而死。13日高雄市環保局再度展開海水滅孑孓行動,出動十台汙泥沖吸車,在前鎮漁港載運第一批約六十噸的海水,前往前鎮區瑞和里沖灌側溝。</div>
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<div align="center">↑引海水入溝渠滅病媒蚊示意圖(摘自:自由時報) </div>
<div class="long_string">姑且,先不論該實驗的精確度與對環境生態所造成的衝擊。海洋平均鹽度為35 PSU,高雄市衛生局所採用海水為30 PSU,而所謂的PSU是指:平均每一公升的水含有多少克的鹽類,因此30 PSU的意思就是每一公升的水就有30克的鹽類。</div>
<div class="long_string">鹽類會導致金屬鏽蝕速度加快。就如同海邊周圍建築物因海風鹽分高、溼氣重,鏽蝕的快,家電則容易壞。而生鏽的金屬變得脆弱、容易剝落,當外層金屬生鏽剝落後將造成內部尚未生鏽的金屬暴露於水和氧氣之下,進一步被鏽蝕,該作用不斷反覆發生,直到整塊金屬被鏽蝕至爛掉。以鐵為例,鐵鏽不像鐵原先那般堅硬,生鏽後非常容易脫落,且體積會增大,若不將鐵鏽去除則容易吸收水分,使鐵被鏽蝕得更快。就像是使用海砂蓋房子,長期下來海砂中的鹽分加速鋼筋腐蝕,造成混凝土塊剝落,建築結構嚴重受損,使房屋壽命縮短、威脅住戶安全。因此海砂蓋屋是不被允許的,然而將這麼大量的海水灌入到水溝中真的沒有疑慮嗎?</div>
<span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F0F000">「半座七股鹽山」</span><span style="color:#00F000">入溝中,加速管線鏽蝕</span>
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<div class="long_string">幾個月前高雄前鎮與苓雅區發生了731氣爆,進而爆發出高雄市地下管線阡陌縱橫、雜亂無章,甚至還出現管線貫穿排水箱涵,及幽靈箱涵等問題。總總現象皆凸顯出高雄市各類地下管線長年來出現了管理漏洞,危及民眾生命安全。</div>
<div class="long_string">而這幾天高市府分別引入了5噸與60噸海水注入三民區與前鎮區的水溝裡。其中注入前鎮區的<span style="color:#008080">60噸海水中就含有1.8噸重的鹽類,相當於「半座七股鹽山」</span>的鹽量流入前鎮區的水溝裡。而這些年久失修、隱藏於地下的管線飽受歲月摧殘,可能早已造成部分鏽蝕,現在卻還要承受宛如半座鹽山,1.8噸鹽量的海水沖刷、浸泡。<span style="color:#008080">如此高濃度鹽分的海水大量灌入水溝,流入下水道,在這種情況下,海水會使水溝與下水道的水氣含有鹽分,此時該區環境就像在海邊,潮濕、鹽分重。</span></div>
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<div align="center">↑七股鹽山(摘自:台南市政府觀光旅遊局) </div>
<div class="long_string">雖然高市環保局聲稱海水在溝槽內稀釋流動,下雨沖進大海,不會污染溝渠。不過高雄現在已進入枯水期,下雨機率減少,海水停留在溝中的時間將會延長,以及海水會因為氣溫升高而蒸發,使海水鹽類結晶殘留於管線與溝中凹槽處,當雨天雨水流入時才又將鹽類溶解,形成鹹水。然後不斷重複這個狀況,直到不知經過了多久以後,鹽類才會完全被帶走,然而水溝與下水道的管線卻已長期處在富含鹽度的環境中了。</div>
<div class="long_string">水溝內藏有多種電纜線,下水道則無法確定是否埋有問題管線,因此若擴大長期實施,輕則可能導致溝內電纜線鏽化,造成居民生活不便。重則可能<span style="color:#008080">加速管線鏽蝕使管線出現破洞,或是造成管壁脆弱,無法承受管內壓力而爆裂,使氣體外洩。導致原本可用50年的管線卻只能用40年,使管線壽命出乎預期的縮短,低於原先預估年限,促使管線所屬單位大意,釀成公共安全問題,進而再度引發氣爆危機!</span></div>
<div class="long_string">然而在所有地下管線尚未查清,並建置明確的地下管線圖資以前,以及無法確認海水將接觸到或影響到哪些管線的同時,高雄市政府您豈能如此不顧市民大眾的安危,將大量海水灌入下水道之中?</div>
<span style="color:#00F000"><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">登革熱病媒蚊生態改變?! 海水滅蚊實驗是否週全</span></span>
登革熱的傳播媒介主要是埃及斑蚊和白線斑蚊,尤其是埃及斑蚊更是出血登革熱最重要之病媒。
登革熱病媒蚊特性如下:
1. 喜愛生長在水質良好的環境,並不像一般人想像的在下水道或者水溝裡面。
2. 只需要數盎司的水就可以繁殖。
3. 每年登革熱高峰為8至9月。
4. 25到32度是最適合斑蚊生長的環境。
5. 主要吸血時間都於白天,且吸血高峰為下午4至5點,次高峰則是上午9至10點。
6. 飛行距離一般約50~150公尺範圍內。但雌蚊飛行範圍可遠至400-800公尺的地區,亦可飛翔至20餘層高樓樓頂。
其習性具有以下差別:
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了解完病媒蚊的特性後, 現在回頭討論本月10日的海水滅蚊實驗。
<div class="long_string">首先探討的是實驗孑孓的來源。一般而言,野生孑孓會因為常與外界接觸、生長環境變因大,像長期接觸到噴藥環境,造就對逆境的適應性及生命力都比實驗室培養的孑孓強韌。</div>
<div class="long_string">第一假設,這次實驗是使用實驗室裡培養的孑孓,並根據高雄市衛生局何啟功局長所言,另一組對照組孑孓其實是放在衛生局實驗室「完全乾淨沒有殘餘藥物或海水」的水,依此實驗設定,可推測此舉是為了證明放在水溝水加海水的孑孓活動力低於放在原生環境水質的孑孓活動力,以表示海水殺蚊有效。因此可以間接證明實驗室裡培養的孑孓生長在「清淨沒有殘餘藥物或海水的水中」,並與生長在富含殺蟲藥的野生孑孓的生長環境相差甚大。</div>
<div class="long_string">如果以上的假設成立,可想而知,當實驗孑孓被放入水溝水時,光是要適應水溝水質就非得花費一番力氣,更何況後續直接被浸泡在海水中,死亡率必定會大幅提升。藉此,也就能解釋原先被認定為對照組,距離20公尺外沒有浸泡到海水的溝中孑孓為什麼也死了8成,其死因應該就是實驗的孑孓無法適應當地水溝水質。</div>
<div class="long_string">相較之下這就很難評估,究竟導致水溝孑孓死亡的主因是牠們對水溝水質的不適應性,還是因海水脫水而死,二者間何者所造成的傷害與影響較為顯著,也就不得而知。</div>
<div class="long_string">至於為何要使用實驗室培養的孑孓,造成水質適應性上的疑慮,卻不直接放置野生孑孓使實驗準確性提升?是因為找不到野生孑孓嗎?於市府所說常出現病媒蚊孑孓的位址也不易尋獲嗎?這樣的實驗方式,該如何讓民眾信服市府的判斷是正確的?而市府又怎能認定水溝中一定有病媒蚊孑孓?</div>
<div class="long_string">第二假設,實驗使用的是野生孑孓。根據高雄市疾病管制處蔡武雄處長所言,原先喜愛產卵在淺水、良好水質環境的登革熱病媒蚊,現在已出現孑孓孳生在大型水池與水溝的現象。這代表登革熱病媒蚊幼蟲的孳生環境已漸漸改變,牠們能適應的環境更加多元。因此將孑孓放入水溝水中作測試這點可成立。</div>
<div class="long_string">但實驗設定理應就該依原先所說,將二組實驗的孑孓放置在同等條件水質的水溝水中,而其中一組注入海水,使實驗變因只限定在「溝水是否含有海水」這一個條件。唯有這樣的實驗方法才能明白的顯現出海水鹽度對孑孓的殺傷力。不然就像是找不同的人,要他們分別吃一種辣椒,然後比對哪一種辣椒較辣。不同基準值該如何比較?這根本就無法比較!</div>
<div class="long_string">然而衛生局最後卻還改口澄清,說對照組孑孓其實是放在實驗室裡乾淨沒有殘餘藥物或海水的水中。這最終的實驗設定真的很令人匪夷所思,在這種不具同等條件下的對照組,不但不能凸顯出孑孓浸泡海水後是否有所差異,並且也無法解釋為什麼在20公尺外,不含海水的溝中孑孓也死了8成。</div>
<div class="long_string"><span style="color:#008080">反觀衛生局對於實驗對照組的說法急轉彎,實驗結果交代不清、前後矛盾,只會令民眾不禁感到質疑,市府當局是否只是為了要讓實驗看似符合原先預期、可行,就隨意弄出個強辯組來搪塞大眾,以達到進而加速全市擴大實施的目的。</span></div>
<div class="long_string">再者所要探討的是依據疾管處所言,先前實驗室中的孑孓在12小時內便全數陣亡,因此以12個小時為一單位進行觀察。然而經過了三次檢視,置入後12小時,200隻孑孓因為有一處測試點被遮蔽無法檢視,因此預估僅剩2隻存活。爾後又經過了12小時,發現存活數尚有2隻。</div>
<div class="long_string">初步實驗結果顯示,該實驗的成果其實不如原先預期來的理想。因為原本12小時就能全數消滅的孑孓,經過了雙倍時間24小時以後,居然還有2隻孑孓存活,這就表示海水滅蚊的功效在自然環境中有所減損。且光是以未浸泡海水的溝中孑孓也死了8成這點來看,實驗過程明顯出現瑕疵,根本就無法證明海水殺死孑孓具有直接的功效。</div>
<div class="long_string"><span style="color:#008080">總觀以上推論與實驗結果,海水滅蚊實驗衛生局理應再次研究、改良實驗方法,而非改口聲稱對照組的來源有誤,與找尋藉口說孑孓供媒體拍攝畫面拿上拿下、沒泡到水時間長,導致孑孓死亡。</span>如果孑孓是供拍畫面未浸泡到水死亡,那浸泡海水死亡的198隻孑孓是否也可合理懷疑是因為此因素死亡,並非是浸泡海水脫水而死。</div>
<div class="long_string">然而最令人不解的是,儘管眾多問題皆顯示出海水滅蚊的不成熟性,且<span style="color:#008080">11月早已過了登革熱高峰期</span>,登革熱疫情將會趨於減緩。然<span style="color:#008080">衛生局為何仍舊堅決且執意的聲稱實驗結果成功,刻不容緩的全高雄比照施作。</span>如此莽撞的擴大實施海水洗溝滅蚊計畫,是為了藉由疫情本身已趨緩的情勢,讓民眾誤以為市府滅蚊有功,抑或是另有目的?</div>
<span style="color:#00F000"><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">愛河,最大的養蚊場?</span></span>
<div class="long_string">多年來市府控管愛河汙水的方式就是在愛河與其支流的交會處設置污水截流站,運用水閘門將汙水阻絕在支流段。並於晴天或非雨季時關閉水閘,阻絕污染源進入愛河,將污水經截流設施輸送到污水處理廠;反之雨天或雨季時則開啟水閘,以達到排洪、宣洩雨水功能,但同時也將各支流及上游的污廢水跟隨著雨水順勢大量注入愛河的下游,使每年五月到九月間形成愛河季節性的污染,造成愛河下游水質惡化。</div>
<div class="long_string">然而這種截汙方式造成<span style="color:#008080">愛河上游與其支流河水不流通</span>。如市府近年所推出的二號運河全線通水計畫,將愛河水引入幸福川中,再升起橡皮壩把引入的河水阻絕在幸福川中。這些做法都將會使河川水體不流通,<span style="color:#008080">形成大型的蓄水池</span>。雖然遭阻絕的河道都有經污水下水道將部分河水排出,但孑孓生活在水體表面並非水中,因此當河水藉污水下水道排出時對孑孓的影響並不大。此外市府的<span style="color:#008080">水質改善計畫</span>,透過高壓溶氧、曝氣等工法淨化水質、提高河水溶氧量,以及疾管處蔡處長所說<span style="color:#008080">登革熱病媒蚊的繁殖生態已改變</span>。由這三點推論,可推測<span style="color:#008080">愛河上游與其支流或許已淪為病媒蚊孑孓生長的最佳環境。</span></div>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1026" data-ori_h="575" style="width:1026px;height:575px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://imageshack.com/a/img674/9973/sZqz9F.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> <div class="img" data-ori_w="1051" data-ori_h="590" style="width:1051px;height:590px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://imageshack.com/a/img674/3615/BkWCL7.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div align="center">↑↑↑ 幸福川下游,橡皮壩(Google Map 2014.04 街景地圖) ↑↑↑</div>
<div class="long_string"><span style="color:#008080">並根據今年的登革熱疫情分布圖可以發現,最先發生及較為嚴重的區域大多位在愛河流域上,且擴散方式有逐漸向愛河上游與其支流上游傳遞的現象。</span>因此更可大膽推估病媒蚊的繁殖場可能已從居家環境轉移到愛河流域四周。由於雌蚊飛行距離最遠可至500公尺,加上高市一天可能產生十萬隻蚊子,以這樣的速度<span style="color:#F0F000">病媒蚊依循愛河逐水而居,且由於<span style="color:#F000F0">部分地區的河水水位高過下水道排入河川的出水孔,讓病媒蚊可再藉由水溝、下水道潛伏在我們的生活周遭</span>,漸漸地遍及整個高雄地區。使得高市府不論多密集的濫噴殺蟲劑,噴到病媒蚊對八種藥劑都有產生抗藥性的同時,卻還不見疫情趨緩。</span></div>
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<div align="center"> ↑愛河流域</div>
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<span style="color:#00F000"><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">高市府不知情?</span></span>
<div class="long_string">按常理而言,登革熱病媒蚊繁殖情況會受到雨量及氣溫影響。但根據歷年雨量、氣溫與登革熱病例數三者做交叉比對後,將會發現近幾年的雨量和氣溫各年間的變化並不大,甚至今年雨季的雨量還高於去年,但登革熱病例數卻毫無規則性的大幅上升下降,令人不禁感到懷疑,影響疫情的變因是否並非是自然因素,而是受到人為策略所致。</div>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1203" data-ori_h="500" style="width:1203px;height:500px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://imageshack.com/a/img908/2824/emaBXt.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> <div class="img" data-ori_w="1278" data-ori_h="262" style="width:1278px;height:262px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://imageshack.com/a/img633/7952/qtunFE.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="1280" data-ori_h="298" style="width:1280px;height:298px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://imageshack.com/a/img901/8538/SivCNk.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div align="center"><div class="img" data-ori_w="820" data-ori_h="588" style="width:820px;height:588px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://imageshack.com/a/img673/9994/qaNeBw.png" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<div class="long_string">高市府是否為了維護愛河水質、攔截上游與支流淤泥和垃圾,將其水閘門緊閉,使閘門內外水質與生活品質形成了天堂與地獄般的差別,導致愛河上游及其支流周圍的居民苦不堪言,飽受髒亂和惡臭的折磨,間接成為登革熱疫情的重災區。</div>
<div class="long_string">若以上推估有所錯誤,那麼有請高市府詳細的解釋清楚,為何堅決在海水滅蚊實驗具有眾多矛盾與尚未成熟之際就要擴大全市實施,不就是要將海水藉由下水道排入寶珠溝,鹹死溝中的孑孓嗎? 不然豈能不理會海水對地下管線所帶來的衝擊,冒著讓海水鏽蝕管線的風險、拿全高雄市市民的生命做賭注、罔顧市民安危,義無反顧的將含有半座七股鹽山之鹽量的大量海水灌入地下。萬一到時候海水滅蚊效果不彰或是無效,那不就賠了夫人又折兵,非但沒有消滅病媒蚊,反而增添地下管線加速鏽蝕的風險,使高雄全市籠罩在二度氣爆的隱憂之下。還是打算當氣爆再度發生時,再將責任推卸給其他單位?根據高市府所言,他們已長期運用投鹽的方式來抑制登革熱病媒蚊的孳生,豈知這次釀成氣爆的鏽蝕管線是否與市府長期投鹽滅蚊有所關連!</div>
<div class="long_string">不要再口口聲聲的宣稱疫情每4年中型爆發,12年大爆發了。<span style="color:#008080">截至同一時間(11/22)</span>,擁有<span style="color:#008080">1億6百多萬人口的廣東省</span>目前累計也才<span style="color:#008080">42,358例</span>,死亡6人;然而<span style="color:#008080">人口數才 270幾萬的高雄市,卻有12,301例,死亡人數竟還高達15人</span>。而<span style="color:#F0F000">去年爆發43,346例的馬來西亞,今。也才增長約1.6倍為68,000例,相較之下高雄市竟從去年的102,突然增加了121倍,達到了1萬多例。</span>如此驚為天人的成長病例數,只能說令人無語。</div>
<div class="long_string"><span style="color:#F00000">今天,每增加一名登革熱死亡病例,所代表的不僅僅是一個人的生命驟逝,而是一個破碎、悲傷家庭的開始。然地下管線的鏽蝕,將導致高雄市民永無止境的生活在焦慮和恐慌中,不知何時會再度氣爆。</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">Sifox</span><span style="color:#808000">:可否順便研究一下,是否有比現行更好的方法?相信高雄市政府很樂於接納任何有效方式</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">camp543</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到 1.8噸重的鹽類,相當於「半座七股鹽山」我的理智就斷線了,跳進平行時空看不下去了</span></div></pre>
may3.
Re: [討論] 連勝文 逆轉了…
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2014-11-25T17:05:40+08:00
2014-12-02T10:48:31+08:00
反正都承認了 多講一點料好了
選舉選到現在 我們必須承認 我們老人的時代過去了
我一開始也完全不信什麼柯文哲白目力量 所以DPP基層這邊都很悲憤
既然都是會輸 為什麼不培養自己人?? 顧立雄姚文智哪裡差??
我們守的那麼久的東西 為什麼要被一個連黨都不屑入的人糟蹋?? 黨有這麼糟嗎??
為了這些 我還去公民版戰了柯粉好久 桶了14天 28天 最後變成一年
那還是當時蔚為一時的熱門話題
蔡英文做出了豪賭 直接放棄台北市 他的權力一度危及
很多派系都等著敗選後修理他 要叫他下台 但是選到現在我們完全傻了
因為DPP基層真的沒出動 都在選自己的市議員
我們從頭到尾都是在看好戲 等著看柯輸 然後大家去圍黨部逼宮蔡英文
但愈選愈傻眼 有很多不可置信的事情發生
例如初選的時候 柯vs.姚 柯文哲在大安區的民調非常高
而且是所有區最高 我們一度以為是國民黨動員基層反串奧步
要派一個全身缺點的來搞爛我們
結果後來發現竟然是真的 完全不可思議 顛覆三十年常識
所有DPP愈看愈傻眼 最後我們很多人 都必須承認 是我們錯了沒錯
我們沒搞清楚民心期待 要進不進 要退不退 又不好好理性解決 又不偏激獨立個徹底
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> HatePolitics </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> may3 (May 3, 1988)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [討論] 連勝文 逆轉了…<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Nov 25 17:05:40 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
反正都承認了 多講一點料好了
選舉選到現在 我們必須承認 我們老人的時代過去了
我一開始也完全不信什麼柯文哲白目力量 所以DPP基層這邊都很悲憤
既然都是會輸 為什麼不培養自己人?? 顧立雄姚文智哪裡差??
我們守的那麼久的東西 為什麼要被一個連黨都不屑入的人糟蹋?? 黨有這麼糟嗎??
為了這些 我還去公民版戰了柯粉好久 桶了14天 28天 最後變成一年
那還是當時蔚為一時的熱門話題
蔡英文做出了豪賭 直接放棄台北市 他的權力一度危及
很多派系都等著敗選後修理他 要叫他下台 但是選到現在我們完全傻了
因為DPP基層真的沒出動 都在選自己的市議員
我們從頭到尾都是在看好戲 等著看柯輸 然後大家去圍黨部逼宮蔡英文
但愈選愈傻眼 有很多不可置信的事情發生
例如初選的時候 柯vs.姚 柯文哲在大安區的民調非常高
而且是所有區最高 我們一度以為是國民黨動員基層反串奧步
要派一個全身缺點的來搞爛我們
結果後來發現竟然是真的 完全不可思議 顛覆三十年常識
所有DPP愈看愈傻眼 最後我們很多人 都必須承認 是我們錯了沒錯
我們沒搞清楚民心期待 要進不進 要退不退 又不好好理性解決 又不偏激獨立個徹底
整天只會那邊搖擺收割 唉 真的要反省
這一年發生了很多事情 我們也是想了很多 不然就不會蘇謝聯合放棄黨主席競選
交棒給下一代
DPP XX部的主任XXX 還是個學生 辦事超鳥 但是還是用了他 就是寧可試看看
刺激一點新的想法
總之 柯文哲真的改變很多事情 選後的示範會非常強烈
你們很多人還不覺得 是因為還沒看到 真的贏球贏出來 那震撼會非常強烈
動搖路線和動搖心智會非常全面 因為連我都在動搖....
更可怕的還在後面 我是不知道柯文哲有沒有辦法把市長幹好
如果他真的幹得很好 又連任 我完全不敢想像台灣的政治會變成這樣
他會一個人破壞了三十年的藍綠版塊常識 創造一個新戰國時代
<div class="combine-lines">不過這個我比較保留...他這素人應該沒這個能耐吧 不過我現在有點沒把握
因為這次選舉我看到太多無法理解不可思議的事情 所以我也不敢說死.....
</div>
這次選舉後 DPP一定會劇烈變動
嗆柯嗆中央的呂后一派 本來就很微小 現在會全面垮了
率先跟風的賴清德聲勢又要上來了 新潮流真的是風向王 不得不承認有能力....
老的會被加速排出 新生代會跑出來
鄉下可能還沒反應過來 都市化的六都的會先變
應該會朝向理性保守的方向前進 真台獨就交棒給台聯和學生了....相當抱歉
不過因為接下來一年 國會的主席台 應該是一個被迫要去佔和杯葛的形式
所以很多人應該短期還不會發現 覺得DPP還是暴力黨
不過....台灣的政治 真的不一樣 而且有機會了 這是我們必須要承認的
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pan46/push?y=14" target="_blank">pan46</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你還想被M吼 版主在你背後XDD</span><span class="push-right">1F 11/25 17:06</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nike00000000/push?y=14" target="_blank">nike00000000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 100分</span><span class="push-right">4F 11/25 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SaChiA5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">SaChiA5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我是真的相信柯可以贏到30萬以上</span><span class="push-right">5F 11/25 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g007/push?y=14" target="_blank">g007</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很中肯分析呀,誰也沒想到KMT會在台北市民調輸到趴下去</span><span class="push-right">6F 11/25 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fetoyeh/push?y=14" target="_blank">fetoyeh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 其實在板規允許的狀況下 我很想問原Po到底DPP內派系現在</span><span class="push-right">7F 11/25 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/l98/push?y=14" target="_blank">l98</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 單一使用者1小時內不得發表超過3篇文章。 所以應該沒超量,是</span><span class="push-right">8F 11/25 17:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/l98/push?y=14" target="_blank">l98</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新聞和轉錄類才是兩篇。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yisdl/push?y=14" target="_blank">yisdl</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 科文哲真的會震盪DPP 也看穿DPP在臺北只想守成的心態</span><span class="push-right">10F 11/25 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g007/push?y=14" target="_blank">g007</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看以前馬 郝 還有馬的兩次總統台北市根本是kmt大補丸。</span><span class="push-right">11F 11/25 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fetoyeh/push?y=14" target="_blank">fetoyeh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 到底長什麼樣子 一直以來我其實覺得看得眼花潦亂</span><span class="push-right">12F 11/25 17:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fetoyeh/push?y=14" target="_blank">fetoyeh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 雖然說這是我自己不用功的比例比較高啦 XD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/digpig/push?y=14" target="_blank">digpig</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我對 DPP 堅持暴力黨的路線倒是挺有信心的</span><span class="push-right">14F 11/25 17:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiki41052/push?y=14" target="_blank">kiki41052</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: DDP要改變 真的 你們沒有KMP內部那麼多包袱啊!</span><span class="push-right">15F 11/25 17:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jarr/push?y=14" target="_blank">jarr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 黨證呢?</span><span class="push-right">16F 11/25 17:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiki41052/push?y=14" target="_blank">kiki41052</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMP想改變 很難 因為錢跟權全部攪在一起 但DDP還沒有啊</span><span class="push-right">17F 11/25 17:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BanJarvan4/push?y=14" target="_blank">BanJarvan4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: DPP要改革先把「猴八股」廢掉吧</span><span class="push-right">18F 11/25 17:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiki41052/push?y=14" target="_blank">kiki41052</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 啊一直打錯 DPP=.= 抱歉</span><span class="push-right">19F 11/25 17:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BanJarvan4/push?y=14" target="_blank">BanJarvan4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 要讓國家正常化之前 先讓自己政黨正常化吧zz</span><span class="push-right">20F 11/25 17:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ALEXB/push?y=14" target="_blank">ALEXB</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蠻中肯的文章.</span><span class="push-right">21F 11/25 17:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ihatesmith/push?y=14" target="_blank">ihatesmith</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: seltzer:吱吱造神</span><span class="push-right">22F 11/25 17:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pennymarkfox/push?y=14" target="_blank">pennymarkfox</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 派系好像有新潮流,謝系、小英跟美麗島系?</span><span class="push-right">23F 11/25 17:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dialysis/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dialysis</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中肯推</span><span class="push-right">24F 11/25 17:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pengjoker/push?y=14" target="_blank">pengjoker</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: DPP要團結 突破意識型態 才會進步</span><span class="push-right">25F 11/25 17:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Aswind/push?y=14" target="_blank">Aswind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: "應該是一個被迫要去佔和杯葛的形式" 這句看不懂</span><span class="push-right">26F 11/25 17:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/akway/push?y=14" target="_blank">akway</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你寫得很精闢 本來DPP底下議員都是看笑話 現在都在抱大腿</span><span class="push-right">27F 11/25 17:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sorrycar/push?y=14" target="_blank">sorrycar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 搖擺收割 這點很中肯阿 然後比錢 又比不上KMT 再不改變</span><span class="push-right">28F 11/25 17:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 As大 因為國民黨依然是國會怪獸 所以DPP再保守 還是</span><span class="push-right">29F 11/25 17:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pipatel2008/push?y=14" target="_blank">pipatel2008</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://youtu.be/7gmKTs8e4U4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/7gmKTs8e4U4</a> 反觀連家 真是好樣的</span><span class="push-right">30F 11/25 17:16</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmKTs8e4U4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>怨環境不友善、怪綠改教科書 勝文民調低連戰指天罵地!20141111-01 - YouTube</strong></a> 「若選輸,唯你們是問」藍委逼發年終慰問金嗆人事長! 「我要捍衛連家百年榮譽」連勝文不支薪選市長為了…? 連勝文靠「貴人之後,父蔭」正藍選民投書支持柯文哲! 身穿15萬名牌西裝出席辯論會 連勝文就是跟我們不一樣! 討厭度44%,首投選票流失 連勝文憑什麼要年輕人喜歡他? 「我家土地只有200坪」政見就是「發獎金、加...</div></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 得靠主席台之爭來制衡 這樣大家還是會認為DPP暴力</span><span class="push-right">31F 11/25 17:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sorrycar/push?y=14" target="_blank">sorrycar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一定越走越死 KMT本夠厚 就算震盪啥的 照樣能爬起來</span><span class="push-right">32F 11/25 17:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 另外 may3先生 現在真的就是看藍綠兩黨 誰先真正做出改</span><span class="push-right">33F 11/25 17:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: DPP 自從阿扁退了 根本就失去方向 拜託先重新執政吧</span><span class="push-right">34F 11/25 17:17</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 變 藍綠的老人結構都腐臭不堪 真的是誰改變 誰就會是接</span><span class="push-right">36F 11/25 17:17</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新北市都拿布下來 怎麼會有執政成績</span><span class="push-right">38F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/noonee/push?y=14" target="_blank">noonee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好奇問原po 對於前幾天的柯p和民進黨契約說 有何感想?</span><span class="push-right">39F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
那個又沒怎樣 我們不推台北市長 忍痛很多啊
就只是一個協議 好 我們不推 但是你柯要幫議員偶爾站台一下
然後我們選前選後都不管你干涉你 切割界線
這個在初選完就協議上網了 新聞也有播 不懂大家在爭論什麼
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 下來台灣最強 你們DPP要怎麼做 我們在看 我基本上還是</span><span class="push-right">40F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jade7601/push?y=14" target="_blank">jade7601</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 失去方向還要給它執政? 好個一廂情願啊</span><span class="push-right">41F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 比較期望DPP 因為國民黨過去的歷史傷害太醜惡</span><span class="push-right">42F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kiki41052/push?y=14" target="_blank">kiki41052</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 死魚你應該說 超越藍綠 但是跟"在野黨"有合作</span><span class="push-right">43F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DarkerWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">DarkerWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 但如果你們真的不振作 那KMT得勝 大家也只能兩手一攤</span><span class="push-right">44F 11/25 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/noonee/push?y=14" target="_blank">noonee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 另外 會連黨意是什麼都不知道 顯然原po距離權力核心</span><span class="push-right">45F 11/25 17:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/noonee/push?y=14" target="_blank">noonee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 非常之遙遠</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jade7601/push?y=14" target="_blank">jade7601</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是台灣人太愛召喚仇恨吧 美國蓄奴內戰就不醜惡?</span><span class="push-right">47F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈 總比給014 貪汙連家執政來得好 您說是嗎</span><span class="push-right">48F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jade7601/push?y=14" target="_blank">jade7601</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 到別人家虐囚 世界當巡警就不醜惡?</span><span class="push-right">49F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ihatesmith/push?y=14" target="_blank">ihatesmith</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 死魚快去護連公子!!選情告急阿!!</span><span class="push-right">50F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/suzer/push?y=14" target="_blank">suzer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不用灰心吧.肯向民意靠攏還有救.不改會比kmt更快被淘汰</span><span class="push-right">51F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 給連D當市長 貪污力點滿的舔長輩的豬頭三當喔 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">52F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jubeat0219/push?y=14" target="_blank">jubeat0219</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 誰可以說出KMT的清流?除了楊實秋和丁守中以外</span><span class="push-right">53F 11/25 17:19</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MajolicaYu/push?y=14" target="_blank">MajolicaYu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 的確是~現在就是新型戰爭,很好用,也很容易墜毀全亡</span><span class="push-right">55F 11/25 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yeswecan/push?y=14" target="_blank">yeswecan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 柯P的團隊大概DPP與台大各一半吧,還有姚老師。</span><span class="push-right">56F 11/25 17:20</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 舔長輩 那就一直舔啊 拜託繼續舔 XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">58F 11/25 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/freakpoor/push?y=14" target="_blank">freakpoor</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這麼多的擔心,還不是把綠基本盤送他,標準言行不一,</span><span class="push-right">59F 11/25 17:20</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/freakpoor/push?y=14" target="_blank">freakpoor</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 選後分贓才是真的啦</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/noonee/push?y=14" target="_blank">noonee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那為何前面自己的文章說 為何黨不推自己的人 自己的人不好</span><span class="push-right">61F 11/25 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/innominate/push?y=14" target="_blank">innominate</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你就知道台灣人多悲哀,一個舊聞拿出來炒冷飯</span><span class="push-right">62F 11/25 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/noonee/push?y=14" target="_blank">noonee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 嗎? 後面又似乎很坦然的接受協議?</span><span class="push-right">63F 11/25 17:21</span></div>
不然怎辦 規則都講了就遵守 而且人家柯的實力把我們打趴.......唉
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pengjoker/push?y=14" target="_blank">pengjoker</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 柯是談判高手</span><span class="push-right">64F 11/25 17:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wenchii/push?y=14" target="_blank">wenchii</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很理性的一票</span><span class="push-right">65F 11/25 17:22</span></div>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: may3 (111.184.38.153), 11/25/2014 17:23:26</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wenchii/push?y=14" target="_blank">wenchii</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 台灣真的要改變了</span><span class="push-right">66F 11/25 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pplilian/push?y=14" target="_blank">pplilian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 加油了民進黨!</span><span class="push-right">67F 11/25 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/innominate/push?y=14" target="_blank">innominate</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 民進黨推候選人只會被唾棄而已,這叫損害管制</span><span class="push-right">68F 11/25 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/smtp/push?y=14" target="_blank">smtp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有印象了, 之前在公民板是不是常被柯的支持者嗆你們輸不起?</span><span class="push-right">69F 11/25 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kevin70613/push?y=14" target="_blank">kevin70613</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 時代潮流本來就不允許停滯不前 不改變終究會被淘汰</span><span class="push-right">70F 11/25 17:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MajolicaYu/push?y=14" target="_blank">MajolicaYu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 個人覺得貴黨應該硬氣點,而且柯沒選上前根本沒資源啊</span><span class="push-right">71F 11/25 17:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kaorukoganei/push?y=14" target="_blank">kaorukoganei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就是KMT內鬥內行阿 黨員可以忍受連蔡合作搞掉丁</span><span class="push-right">72F 11/25 17:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MajolicaYu/push?y=14" target="_blank">MajolicaYu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 貴黨就是一直搖擺,請問不就跟馬總統一樣軟弱不被信任?</span><span class="push-right">73F 11/25 17:27</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MajolicaYu/push?y=14" target="_blank">MajolicaYu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一直幫忙吹素人梗...問題是柯也算媒體本來就有名氣的</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MajolicaYu/push?y=14" target="_blank">MajolicaYu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 而且候選人泛綠者都和柯合照而不是貴黨主席,這樣好嗎?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 百年政黨 連連D都搞不定 根本是買辦文化 不意外啦</span><span class="push-right">76F 11/25 17:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sylvesterleo/push?y=14" target="_blank">sylvesterleo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 希望30號可以來這看崩潰</span><span class="push-right">77F 11/25 17:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GossipCandy/push?y=14" target="_blank">GossipCandy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 柯文哲如果選上 根本是連勝文太爛</span><span class="push-right">78F 11/25 17:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tv5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">tv5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 老宋和老李來幹主席會搞不定連家 ?</span><span class="push-right">79F 11/25 17:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GossipCandy/push?y=14" target="_blank">GossipCandy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 科屁選上民進黨也別妄自菲薄 沉浸在顆屁很強的幻覺</span><span class="push-right">80F 11/25 17:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MajolicaYu/push?y=14" target="_blank">MajolicaYu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 誠心誠意希望貴黨可以真正變得茁壯,但是老人(柯)要除</span><span class="push-right">81F 11/25 17:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arrfu/push?y=14" target="_blank">arrfu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我想問一下12年的內部民調是不是小英真的不樂觀,還是內部</span><span class="push-right">82F 11/25 17:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/arrfu/push?y=14" target="_blank">arrfu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 贏?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ice31/push?y=14" target="_blank">ice31</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: DPP要改革很簡單 選後跟國民黨聯手 先把八卦版風氣導正一下</span><span class="push-right">84F 11/25 17:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jevix/push?y=14" target="_blank">jevix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: DPP不分區再不把酬庸換掉,2016一定會被台聯或公民組合分</span><span class="push-right">85F 11/25 17:39</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jevix/push?y=14" target="_blank">jevix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 掉一大半</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 柯如果真的當選,對台灣的藍綠政治一定會有衝擊</span><span class="push-right">87F 11/25 17:39</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 如他的講稿,讓國民黨更貼近國民,讓民進黨更進步</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我覺得台灣的民主和選舉方式,要去借鏡國外,看看其他國</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 家的選舉方式,提升議題討論度,增加理性</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不要整天用旗子,宣傳車,吃辦桌....這些很傳統沒有思維</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hihi29/push?y=14" target="_blank">hihi29</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 原來是真DPP黨工 當初嗆柯嗆到還以為是KMT派來的臥底</span><span class="push-right">92F 11/25 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mystage/push?y=14" target="_blank">mystage</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 喔喔喔!!!一個台北市選到兩大黨崩潰,實在不簡單</span><span class="push-right">93F 11/25 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/audi1005/push?y=14" target="_blank">audi1005</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 其實我覺得這 連 真的是在玩公子獻頭 改變台灣政治生態</span><span class="push-right">94F 11/25 17:55</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/audi1005/push?y=14" target="_blank">audi1005</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 以往被人不齒的選舉手法都用了 還是用得擺明考驗智商</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zebra7/push?y=14" target="_blank">zebra7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中肯</span><span class="push-right">96F 11/25 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qwer57/push?y=14" target="_blank">qwer57</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 說得不錯</span><span class="push-right">97F 11/25 18:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aallan/push?y=14" target="_blank">aallan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 連任要奇蹟啦 這次連真的太弱</span><span class="push-right">98F 11/25 18:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/carter7013/push?y=14" target="_blank">carter7013</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這一次就是一個奇蹟了啊 再一次也不奇怪</span><span class="push-right">99F 11/25 18:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/carter7013/push?y=14" target="_blank">carter7013</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 連任的選票優勢需要像馬英九一樣的人來打破</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/carter7013/push?y=14" target="_blank">carter7013</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 丁守中還差一點吧</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/carter7013/push?y=14" target="_blank">carter7013</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬英九是史上最會選舉的人耶KMT還有第二個?</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬英九是史上第一吸票機無誤</span><span class="push-right">103F 11/25 18:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bawwen/push?y=14" target="_blank">bawwen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你是不是想太多了....</span><span class="push-right">104F 11/25 18:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/westfour/push?y=14" target="_blank">westfour</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 顧立雄跟姚文智絕對被打爆 absolutely</span><span class="push-right">105F 11/25 19:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/westfour/push?y=14" target="_blank">westfour</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 光顧立雄廢死就絕對爆</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hank61204/push?y=14" target="_blank">hank61204</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">107F 11/25 19:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wefun/push?y=14" target="_blank">wefun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 基本上 台北市民是高素質的 只選高素質的市長 不想選廢人</span><span class="push-right">108F 11/25 19:36</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wefun/push?y=14" target="_blank">wefun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 所以柯會當選 完全反映台北市的高素質</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wefun/push?y=14" target="_blank">wefun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看看過去的馬郝哪個不是kmt的一等強將</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BosRedsucks/push?y=14" target="_blank">BosRedsucks</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">111F 11/25 19:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thebestone/push?y=14" target="_blank">thebestone</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 新潮流真的是DPP的中流砥柱</span><span class="push-right">112F 11/25 20:03</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thebestone/push?y=14" target="_blank">thebestone</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 民進黨不應該和柯p翻臉,因為還有利用價值</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thebestone/push?y=14" target="_blank">thebestone</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 如果DPP聰明的話,可以利用柯P幫忙訓練新生代</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tony030509/push?y=14" target="_blank">tony030509</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有點好奇dpp內部的派系狀況,希望原po之後還會來發文</span><span class="push-right">115F 11/25 20:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Frankaze/push?y=14" target="_blank">Frankaze</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 能讓民進黨進步 就是好事</span><span class="push-right">116F 11/25 21:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aoc3/push?y=14" target="_blank">aoc3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 等著看選上後民進黨怎麼都柯p吧</span><span class="push-right">117F 11/25 21:46</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aoc3/push?y=14" target="_blank">aoc3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鬥</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/genaro/push?y=14" target="_blank">genaro</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">119F 11/25 21:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XDXDXDXDDDDD/push?y=14" target="_blank">XDXDXDXDDDDD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Push</span><span class="push-right">120F 11/25 22:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamwright/push?y=14" target="_blank">iamwright</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 理性給推</span><span class="push-right">121F 11/26 05:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tom50512/push?y=14" target="_blank">tom50512</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 不改變等著被淘汰</span><span class="push-right">122F 11/26 09:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sarnux/push?y=14" target="_blank">Sarnux</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推 有你這篇看到dpp還是有希望的</span><span class="push-right">123F 11/26 13:26</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sarnux/push?y=14" target="_blank">Sarnux</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我新北的票就給游了</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NitroG/push?y=14" target="_blank">NitroG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我新北也是給水牛先生,但原因只是要讓國民黨離開台灣政</span><span class="push-right">125F 11/26 14:37</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NitroG/push?y=14" target="_blank">NitroG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 壇。民進黨應該盡快開始改變,國民黨倒是沒救了。如果政</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NitroG/push?y=14" target="_blank">NitroG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 黨最後只會拉攏財團,那人民最後只能靠自己。</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Philcat/push?y=14" target="_blank">Philcat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推黨工</span><span class="push-right">128F 11/29 20:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Starflyx/push?y=14" target="_blank">Starflyx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 朝聖</span><span class="push-right">129F 11/30 01:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SuperKoala/push?y=14" target="_blank">SuperKoala</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 朝聖推</span><span class="push-right">130F 11/30 14:15</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">motestt08154</span><span style="color:#808000">:for黨工:感覺本文挺理性的,我個人一點也不介意DPP杯葛立院,雖然不是相當好的行為,屬下下策吧,不過總統身兼當然黨主席是一件很糟糕的事,會讓立院的監督機制崩壞,如此接近獨裁的作法卻做不出成績不斷堅持Z>B還完全執政完全卸責才是KMT讓人深惡痛絕的原因之一,但希望DPP不要因為國民黨爛而停止進步,期望未來兩黨能更加貼近人民。 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">boyzonehero</span><span style="color:#808000">:唉還沒這麼樂觀阿</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">boyzonehero</span><span style="color:#808000">:希望柯游林一舉當上</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">boyzonehero</span><span style="color:#808000">:改變台灣建設</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jxdkt</span><span style="color:#808000">: 連D說台北不能原地踏步....這不是打臉郝久嗎?</span></div></pre>
Niwahikaru
新手發文 選前感想
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8idA
2014-11-23T13:22:42+08:00
2014-11-23T13:22:42+08:00
第一次發文 不知道這樣的格式是否可以 請見諒
其實在這一次選舉之下感覺到的已經不是真正的對錯了 而是你眼睛裡面的顏色
因為一樣的事情 在顏色之下 是不一樣的反應
在過去我曾經投給藍(馬) 甚至在之前綠(扁)
其實台灣人要的只是一個 (真)
我不敢說我是沒有顏色 我可能偏 綠 吧 但是我又覺得 藍 綠 這樣的噁心
台灣不是調色盤給你們這樣混著玩就好 空耗了多久 虛耗了多久 人民看你們吐口水多久了
人的是非正直有著一把尺 就在你心裡 當你已不同的標準去下了定論
這件事情就沒有真正是非 請用相同標準來套審同樣的人
我們要的不是在選前給糖果摸摸頭 告訴你世界大同 天下和平
我們要的是我們真的能有飯吃 做事情有政府可以替我們撐腰
台灣多少選舉支票 跳票 結果又回到了藍綠 內耗 累了 人民累了
以前我有想過是不是讓藍一言堂獨大會比較好
幾年的時間下來還不是一樣 台灣真的沒有更好 甚至我自己都覺得我不知道我在做啥
那幾年放棄了自己看政治的感覺 我只覺得 這一切都是因為敵對而敵對
就像周遭人說的 不管誰選上 薪水也不會變 改變最多的永遠是選舉之前
大家攻擊的目標永遠都是鬼打牆 斷章取義 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Niwahikaru (丹羽光)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 新手發文 選前感想<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月23日 Sun. PM 01:22:42</div><hr color="#008080" />
第一次發文 不知道這樣的格式是否可以 請見諒
其實在這一次選舉之下感覺到的已經不是真正的對錯了 而是你眼睛裡面的顏色
因為一樣的事情 在顏色之下 是不一樣的反應
在過去我曾經投給藍(馬) 甚至在之前綠(扁)
其實台灣人要的只是一個 (真)
我不敢說我是沒有顏色 我可能偏 綠 吧 但是我又覺得 藍 綠 這樣的噁心
台灣不是調色盤給你們這樣混著玩就好 空耗了多久 虛耗了多久 人民看你們吐口水多久了
人的是非正直有著一把尺 就在你心裡 當你已不同的標準去下了定論
這件事情就沒有真正是非 請用相同標準來套審同樣的人
我們要的不是在選前給糖果摸摸頭 告訴你世界大同 天下和平
我們要的是我們真的能有飯吃 做事情有政府可以替我們撐腰
台灣多少選舉支票 跳票 結果又回到了藍綠 內耗 累了 人民累了
以前我有想過是不是讓藍一言堂獨大會比較好
幾年的時間下來還不是一樣 台灣真的沒有更好 甚至我自己都覺得我不知道我在做啥
那幾年放棄了自己看政治的感覺 我只覺得 這一切都是因為敵對而敵對
就像周遭人說的 不管誰選上 薪水也不會變 改變最多的永遠是選舉之前
大家攻擊的目標永遠都是鬼打牆 斷章取義的攻擊著某段文字或者事件
是非對錯真的就只是 這樣而已嗎
在有一天你老了以後 你能很心平氣和的拿出這些 說給你的後代聽嗎
連我們這種不懂政治的 都覺的你們好噁心
要博的只是板面 要做的只是氣勢
然而效果在哪裡 成果在哪裡
跳脫的是藍 還是綠
我們的朋友 家人 哪時候才可以在國際揚眉吐氣
I come form Taiwan. 我好想大聲說...
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Niwahikaru 時間: 2014-11-23 13:22:42</span></div></pre>
Claydment
臺灣就是在走韓國路線
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8i5e
2014-11-22T00:39:49+08:00
2014-11-22T00:39:49+08:00
就是扶植財團,打擊中小企業啊
當初靠客廳即工廠創造經濟奇蹟,現在沒辦法了啊,外國在規模經濟,我們規模小成本高,跟人家比?
鴻海代工幾十年還在微笑曲線的最低點,怎麼賺的了錢?
外國商業托拉斯虎視耽耽等著吃中國市場,臺灣不扶植大型企業根本贏不了!
馬政府怎麼可能會在乎市井小民的想法?
還不如讀好點書考進頂新當經理來的實在
反正臺灣人怕死,自殺率不會超過韓國啦
法律系出來別再選總統了拜託哈哈哈 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> Claydment (NPC)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 臺灣就是在走韓國路線<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月22日 Sat. AM 12:39:49</div><hr color="#008080" />
就是扶植財團,打擊中小企業啊
當初靠客廳即工廠創造經濟奇蹟,現在沒辦法了啊,外國在規模經濟,我們規模小成本高,跟人家比?
鴻海代工幾十年還在微笑曲線的最低點,怎麼賺的了錢?
外國商業托拉斯虎視耽耽等著吃中國市場,臺灣不扶植大型企業根本贏不了!
馬政府怎麼可能會在乎市井小民的想法?
還不如讀好點書考進頂新當經理來的實在
反正臺灣人怕死,自殺率不會超過韓國啦
法律系出來別再選總統了拜託哈哈哈
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<span class="record">※ 作者: Claydment 時間: 2014-11-22 00:39:49</span></div></pre>
healthcheer
【勞保局】預防職業病健康檢查
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8h24
2014-11-14T14:19:11+08:00
2014-11-14T14:19:11+08:00
(上網)【勞保局】預防職業病健康檢查
一、檢查對象
(一)實際從事「勞工健康保護規則」所列25類之同一特別危害健康作業之被保險人最近加保年資連續滿1年以上者,年資之計算以勞保局受理申請日為止。
(二)「勞工健康保護規則」所規定之特別危害健康作業種類檢查對象如下
1、從事高溫作業勞工作息時間標準所稱高溫作業之勞工。
2、從事噪音暴露工作日8小時日時量平均音壓級在85分貝以上作業之勞工。
3、從事游離輻射作業之勞工。
4、從事異常氣壓危害預防標準所稱異常氣壓作業之勞工。
5、從事鉛中毒預防規則所稱鉛作業之勞工。
6、從事四烷基鉛中毒預防規則所稱四烷基鉛作業之勞工。
7、從事1,1,2,2—四氯乙烷之製造或處置作業之勞工。
8、從事四氯化碳之製造或處置作業之勞工。
9、從事二硫化碳之製造或處置作業之勞工。
10、從事三氯乙烯、四氯乙烯之製造或處置作業之勞工。
11、從事二甲基甲醯胺之製造或處置作業之勞工。
12、從事正己烷之製造或處置作業之勞工。
13、從事聯苯胺及其鹽類、4—胺基聯苯及其鹽類、4—硝基聯苯及其鹽類、β—敘胺及其鹽類、二氯聯苯胺及其鹽類、α— 胺及其鹽類之製造、處置或使用作業 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> healthcheer (healthcheer)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 【勞保局】預防職業病健康檢查<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月14日 Fri. PM 02:19:11</div><hr color="#008080" />
(上網)【勞保局】預防職業病健康檢查
一、檢查對象
<div class="long_string">(一)實際從事「勞工健康保護規則」所列25類之同一特別危害健康作業之被保險人最近加保年資連續滿1年以上者,年資之計算以勞保局受理申請日為止。</div>
(二)「勞工健康保護規則」所規定之特別危害健康作業種類檢查對象如下
1、從事高溫作業勞工作息時間標準所稱高溫作業之勞工。
2、從事噪音暴露工作日8小時日時量平均音壓級在85分貝以上作業之勞工。
3、從事游離輻射作業之勞工。
4、從事異常氣壓危害預防標準所稱異常氣壓作業之勞工。
5、從事鉛中毒預防規則所稱鉛作業之勞工。
6、從事四烷基鉛中毒預防規則所稱四烷基鉛作業之勞工。
7、從事1,1,2,2—四氯乙烷之製造或處置作業之勞工。
8、從事四氯化碳之製造或處置作業之勞工。
9、從事二硫化碳之製造或處置作業之勞工。
10、從事三氯乙烯、四氯乙烯之製造或處置作業之勞工。
11、從事二甲基甲醯胺之製造或處置作業之勞工。
12、從事正己烷之製造或處置作業之勞工。
<div class="long_string">13、從事聯苯胺及其鹽類、4—胺基聯苯及其鹽類、4—硝基聯苯及其鹽類、β—敘胺及其鹽類、二氯聯苯胺及其鹽類、α— 胺及其鹽類之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。</div>
14、從事鈹及其化合物之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
15、從事氯乙烯之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
16、從事苯之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
17、從事2,4-二異氰酸甲苯或2,6-二異氰酸甲苯、4,4—二異氰酸二苯甲烷、二異氰酸異佛爾酮之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
18、從事石綿之處置或使用作業之勞工。
19、從事砷及其化合物之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
20、從事錳及其化合物(一氧化錳及三氧化錳除外)之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
21、從事黃磷之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
22、從事聯挽啶或巴拉刈之製造作業之勞工。
23、從事「粉塵危害預防標準」所稱粉塵作業之勞工。
24、從事鉻酸及其鹽類之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
25、從事鎘及其化合物之製造、處置或使用作業之勞工。
二、應備文件
<div class="long_string">(一)填妥「勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查申請書」並檢附「勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查申請名冊」及作業環境測定報告,或填具「勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查申請書」並檢附作業環境測定報告,及存有被保險人相關資料之磁碟片(光碟片),或採網路申辦。</div>
<div class="long_string">*如係職業工會被保險人,請加填「勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查特別危害健康作業經歷報告書(職業工會被保險人適用)」。無法提供作業環境測定報告者,應提供其他相關證明或詳述勞工作業內容、場所、時間等資料。</div>
*對可能符合檢查作業種類且連續加保滿1年之投保單位,勞保局於每年年底主動寄發勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查申請書表。
<div class="long_string">(二)勞保局受理申請書件,經審查核定後,檢附勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查指定醫院名冊及符合規定之被保險人每人1張「勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查證明單、紀錄表」通知投保單位轉知,被保險人於規定之3個月有效期間內前往指定醫院受檢。</div>
三、注意事項
<div class="long_string">(一)本項勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查由投保單位為實際從事工作內容及性質與檢查類別有關且最近連續加保滿1年之被保險人提出申請。投保單位未依規定申請者,被保險人得逕向勞保局申請,經審查後另行通知被保險人。</div>
<div class="long_string">(二)本項勞工保險預防職業病健康檢查全年均可辦理申請,投保單位可視情況分批為所屬合於規定之被保險人,每人每年申請檢查1次(與上次申請時間應間隔1年)。</div>
<div class="long_string">(三)應持勞保局發給之健康檢查證明表單及國民身分證或其他足以證明身分之證件至指定醫院接受檢查,檢查費用由勞保局支付,被保險人只需繳交掛號費。</div>
<div class="long_string">四、投保單位為合於規定之被保險人申請實施本項健康檢查,檢查費用不在勞保職業災害保險實績費率計算範圍,且可視同已辦理「勞工健康保護規則」規定之該項勞工特殊體格及健康檢查。</div>
來源網址:<a href="https://msg.nat.gov.tw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://msg.nat.gov.tw/</a>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: healthcheer 時間: 2014-11-14 14:19:11</span></div></pre>
healthcheer
【勞保局】 無薪假投保薪資之計算
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8h1u
2014-11-14T12:50:40+08:00
2014-11-14T12:50:40+08:00
【勞保局】 無薪假投保薪資之計算
一、無薪假調整投保薪資規定
(一)公司員工因工作量減少致月薪資總額降低,投保單位仍應覈實申報。
(二)公司政策如為保障員工權益,約定不調降全體員工之勞保投保薪資,勞保局將依個案實際狀況處理。
二、調整投保薪資申請方式
(一)投保單位填具投保薪資調整表並檢附其薪資確有變動之相關證明,申報調整員工勞保投保薪資,但最低不得低於基本工資,其調整均自申報之次月1日生效。
三、無薪假勞工退休金之提繳
(一)公司員工之勞工退休金約定按原領薪資提繳,而勞保依實際薪資申報調降時,應依下列方式申報:
1.書面申報:投保(提繳)單位應於勞保、勞退合一薪調表上註明「勞工退休金約定維持原提繳工資,不予調降」。
2.網路申報:投保(提繳)單位若選擇「線上申報」,應進入「勞保網路申辦作業(含勞退申報)」申報投保薪資降低,次日再以「勞退網路申辦作業」申報勞退提繳工資調整為原提繳工資。
來源網址:https://msg.nat.gov.tw/ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> healthcheer (healthcheer)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 【勞保局】 無薪假投保薪資之計算<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月14日 Fri. PM 12:50:39</div><hr color="#008080" />
【勞保局】 無薪假投保薪資之計算
一、無薪假調整投保薪資規定
(一)公司員工因工作量減少致月薪資總額降低,投保單位仍應覈實申報。
(二)公司政策如為保障員工權益,約定不調降全體員工之勞保投保薪資,勞保局將依個案實際狀況處理。
二、調整投保薪資申請方式
<div class="long_string">(一)投保單位填具投保薪資調整表並檢附其薪資確有變動之相關證明,申報調整員工勞保投保薪資,但最低不得低於基本工資,其調整均自申報之次月1日生效。</div>
三、無薪假勞工退休金之提繳
(一)公司員工之勞工退休金約定按原領薪資提繳,而勞保依實際薪資申報調降時,應依下列方式申報:
1.書面申報:投保(提繳)單位應於勞保、勞退合一薪調表上註明「勞工退休金約定維持原提繳工資,不予調降」。
<div class="long_string">2.網路申報:投保(提繳)單位若選擇「線上申報」,應進入「勞保網路申辦作業(含勞退申報)」申報投保薪資降低,次日再以「勞退網路申辦作業」申報勞退提繳工資調整為原提繳工資。 </div>
來源網址:<a href="https://msg.nat.gov.tw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://msg.nat.gov.tw/</a>
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STi2011.
Re: [問卦] 阿扁時代的經濟到底有多苦?
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8gTB
2014-11-13T15:22:38+08:00
2014-11-14T23:36:28+08:00
有多苦?
其實 每個時代的新聞 就是最好借鏡的地方
我們熱烈歡迎 正直新聞幫我們整理的標題
http://newsrumble.tw/honest_news?page=13
正直新聞 - News Rumble 正直好新聞
✕施政無方百業蕭瑟 〇投資者該自負盈虧
2008-03-18 / 經濟日報 / 蓄勢待發
2009-01-04 / 經濟日報 / 提餿主意的請閉嘴
✕失業半年無收入自殺 〇失業上山撿垃圾很快樂
2008-01-05 / 聯合報 / 失業,活不下去 喝農藥自殺
2008-12-08 / 聯合報 / 失業科技人 上山撿垃圾找快樂
✕生活艱難,向誰討公道? 〇加油,還是要靠自己!
2007-04-19 / 聯合報 / 青年悲歌:起薪不如十年前
2008-10-20 / 聯合晚報 / 危機中靠自己找出路
✕前途與信心向下沈淪 〇辛苦一點不必悲觀
2007-12-27 / 聯合報 / 希望落差社會如何兌現幸福經濟支票?
2008-07-17 / 聯合晚報 / 今年辛苦一點,但不必太悲觀
✕漲兩元超貴! 〇只漲4.5元喔
2006-04-18 / TVBS / 超貴!油價漲 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> STi2011 (好久不見)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問卦] 阿扁時代的經濟到底有多苦?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Nov 13 15:22:38 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《kk5311 (mail)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: KMT的文宣很多都指出阿扁時代經濟困苦,薪水低,沒工作</span>
<span class="quote">: 很多689也會說給綠色執政日子會很難過</span>
<span class="quote">: 到底那時候的日子有多麼困苦?</span>
<span class="quote">: 痛苦到689不得不當689?</span>
有多苦?
其實 每個時代的新聞 就是最好借鏡的地方
我們熱烈歡迎 正直新聞幫我們整理的標題
<a href="http://newsrumble.tw/honest_news?page=13" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://newsrumble.tw/honest_news?page=13</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://newsrumble.tw/honest_news?page=13" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>正直新聞 - News Rumble 正直好新聞</strong></a></div></div>
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✕施政無方百業蕭瑟 〇投資者該自負盈虧
2008-03-18 / 經濟日報 / 蓄勢待發
2009-01-04 / 經濟日報 / 提餿主意的請閉嘴
✕失業半年無收入自殺 〇<span style="color:#F0F000">失業上山撿垃圾很快樂</span>
2008-01-05 / 聯合報 / 失業,活不下去 喝農藥自殺
2008-12-08 / 聯合報 / 失業科技人 上山撿垃圾找快樂
<div class="combine-lines">✕生活艱難,向誰討公道? 〇加油,還是要靠自己!
2007-04-19 / 聯合報 / 青年悲歌:起薪不如十年前
2008-10-20 / 聯合晚報 / 危機中靠自己找出路</div>
✕前途與信心向下沈淪 〇辛苦一點不必悲觀
2007-12-27 / 聯合報 / 希望落差社會如何兌現幸福經濟支票?
2008-07-17 / 聯合晚報 / 今年辛苦一點,但不必太悲觀
✕漲兩元超貴! 〇只漲4.5元喔
2006-04-18 / TVBS / 超貴!油價漲2元 最快今公佈
2008-05-27 / TVBS / 政院擬降稅 汽油可能只漲4.5元
✕失業自殘不斷 〇<span style="color:#F0F000">失業看毛毛蟲生信心</span>
2007-09-10 / 中國時報 / 失業給付太短 失業自殘不斷
2009-01-15 / 中國時報 / 失業者見毛毛蟲蠕蠕求生而頓生信心
✕嗆扁<span style="color:#F0F000">學生有勇氣</span> 〇嗆馬<span style="color:#F0F000">學弟不給面子</span>
2006-09-13 / NOWnews / 倒扁/建中生嗆扁 小綠綠不甘示弱 同學:有勇氣
2008-12-07 / NOWnews / 尷尬!建中學弟嗆馬英九:不要出賣台灣
✕百姓失業 民間不投資 〇<span style="color:#00F000">沒有不景氣 只有不爭氣</span>
2003-11-03 / 陳文茜 / 誰能唱衰台灣?
2009-01-17 / 陳文茜 / 沒有不景氣 只有不爭氣
✕薪水變薄! 〇無薪假休了更賺
<div class="combine-lines">2008-02-27 / TVBS / 薪水變薄! 上班族實質薪負成長
2009-01-20 / TVBS / 無薪假賣麵包 日薪3千休了更賺
</div>
✕薪水不漲消費者吃不消 〇無薪假幫忙紓解國道車潮
<div class="combine-lines">2007-08-01 / TVBS / 小黃漲價! 2.5公里70元變85元
2009-01-23 / TVBS / 爸爸無薪假 春節無奈提前返鄉
</div>
✕薪水不動 痛苦指數直飆 〇<span style="color:#F0F000">薪水薄了 親情厚了</span>
2008-02-21 / 聯合報 / 薪水不動 物價猛漲 上班族 痛苦指數直飆
2009-02-03 / 聯合晚報 / 薪水薄了 親情厚了
✕這樣的部長 在國民黨已經下台10次了 〇關中赴何處復健
2003-09-25 / 聯合晚報 / 余政憲下台?國民黨:扁應表態 李嘉進批‘這樣的部長 在
國民黨已經<span style="color:#00F000">下台10次</span>了
2012-11-15 / 聯合報 / 關中赴何處復健
✕水電油價四月喊漲 民眾喊苦 〇不管電費漲多少,省電你做到了多少?
<div class="combine-lines">2008-03-23 / 華視新聞 / 水電油價四月喊漲 民眾喊苦
2012-04-10 / 華視新聞 / 514電費漲價 節能妙招大公開
</div>
<div class="combine-lines">✕請多想想升斗小民面對高物價的處境 〇今天不漲 未來會被罵更慘
2007-07-19 / <span style="color:#00F000">中國時報 / 請多想想升斗小民面對高物價的處境吧</span>
2012-04-11 / 中國時報 / 今天不漲 未來會被罵更慘</div>
✕當發展成就與競爭力都敗給韓國 〇淡定面對日益逼近的苦日子
2007-03-29 / 經濟日報 / 當發展成就與競爭力都敗給韓國
2012-05-28 / 經濟日報 / <span style="color:#00F000">淡定</span>面對日益逼近的<span style="color:#00F000">苦日子</span>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/apflake/push?y=14" target="_blank">apflake</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://archive.newsrumble.tw/node/169" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://archive.newsrumble.tw/node/169</a></span><span class="push-right">29F 11/13 15:31</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bqbq/push?y=14" target="_blank">bqbq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑死我了</span><span class="push-right">35F 11/13 15:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Zphoenix/push?y=14" target="_blank">Zphoenix</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 懷念的520分水嶺!</span><span class="push-right">36F 11/13 15:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/answer1115/push?y=14" target="_blank">answer1115</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <<<<<<<<<<<<<台灣第一高峰520分水嶺>>>>>>>>>>>>></span><span class="push-right">37F 11/13 15:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsupohsiang/push?y=14" target="_blank">hsupohsiang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推惹~</span><span class="push-right">38F 11/13 15:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blakespring/push?y=14" target="_blank">blakespring</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 柯P當選 你就看中時、望報是如何用高標準看台北市</span><span class="push-right">39F 11/13 15:34</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blakespring/push?y=14" target="_blank">blakespring</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬郝的施政都當沒事一樣</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shanpeilee/push?y=14" target="_blank">shanpeilee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">41F 11/13 15:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rubberking/push?y=14" target="_blank">rubberking</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 馬就是廢</span><span class="push-right">42F 11/13 15:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/goldman0204/push?y=14" target="_blank">goldman0204</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520偉大的分水嶺!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">43F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/piza/push?y=14" target="_blank">piza</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你了解的太多了 會被查水表</span><span class="push-right">44F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ToTaiwan/push?y=14" target="_blank">ToTaiwan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">45F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j0928875963/push?y=14" target="_blank">j0928875963</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">46F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/adifdtd/push?y=14" target="_blank">adifdtd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 召喚! 520分水嶺!!!</span><span class="push-right">47F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sshwann/push?y=14" target="_blank">sshwann</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看一看真的很悲哀 媒體長期操弄誤國</span><span class="push-right">48F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serval623/push?y=14" target="_blank">serval623</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看到八卦689蠕動生信心</span><span class="push-right">49F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/doomhammer/push?y=14" target="_blank">doomhammer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 啪 幹 好痛</span><span class="push-right">50F 11/13 15:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/murray/push?y=14" target="_blank">murray</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看毛毛蟲蠕動是走到政黑板嗎</span><span class="push-right">51F 11/13 15:36</span></div>
<span class="record">※ <span style="color:#00F000">honey0417</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 HatePolitics</span> 11/13 15:36</span>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Kietiary/push?y=14" target="_blank">Kietiary</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 開門 查水表!</span><span class="push-right">52F 11/13 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Lacoste5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">Lacoste5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">53F 11/13 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/x0003/push?y=14" target="_blank">x0003</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這太讚了,希望可以整理更多XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">54F 11/13 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/toddy5401/push?y=14" target="_blank">toddy5401</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 整理得不錯! 真的是雙重標蠢的媒體製造業</span><span class="push-right">55F 11/13 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gibe/push?y=14" target="_blank">gibe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠背XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">56F 11/13 15:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/langeo/push?y=14" target="_blank">langeo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺 之前還很紅說 現在很少人拿出來講了</span><span class="push-right">57F 11/13 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/se2422/push?y=14" target="_blank">se2422</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">58F 11/13 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zergtide/push?y=14" target="_blank">zergtide</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的好痛苦...過了20080520 痛苦都會轉彎了</span><span class="push-right">59F 11/13 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/balakuo/push?y=14" target="_blank">balakuo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">60F 11/13 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thriller396/push?y=14" target="_blank">thriller396</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你應該註明:阿扁時期、馬冏時期,更一目瞭然</span><span class="push-right">61F 11/13 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/omoideomoi/push?y=14" target="_blank">omoideomoi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 再搭配我們準備好了的CF來看會更有感</span><span class="push-right">62F 11/13 15:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kipi91718/push?y=14" target="_blank">kipi91718</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 扯</span><span class="push-right">63F 11/13 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mihimarugt22/push?y=14" target="_blank">mihimarugt22</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇有爆的潛力XD</span><span class="push-right">64F 11/13 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ma713/push?y=14" target="_blank">ma713</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">65F 11/13 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yenyen0403/push?y=14" target="_blank">yenyen0403</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 吱吱蛆蛆 都一樣 被媒體玩得暈頭轉向</span><span class="push-right">66F 11/13 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lianhua/push?y=14" target="_blank">lianhua</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 偉大的分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">67F 11/13 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/XBUCKXMR/push?y=14" target="_blank">XBUCKXMR</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD不可跨越的分水嶺!</span><span class="push-right">68F 11/13 15:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/serval623/push?y=14" target="_blank">serval623</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 689:兩黨都ㄧ樣爛啦</span><span class="push-right">69F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Narsilion/push?y=14" target="_blank">Narsilion</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 嗆扁查理 出來!</span><span class="push-right">70F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andy00163/push?y=14" target="_blank">andy00163</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看了蠻難過的</span><span class="push-right">71F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/megaje/push?y=14" target="_blank">megaje</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺!!</span><span class="push-right">72F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abucat/push?y=14" target="_blank">abucat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺真猛</span><span class="push-right">73F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stvken/push?y=14" target="_blank">stvken</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 2008年520分水嶺 從藍色媒體立見雙重標準表露無遺</span><span class="push-right">74F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amigowei/push?y=14" target="_blank">amigowei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 轉個彎系列~~</span><span class="push-right">76F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jayfeng/push?y=14" target="_blank">jayfeng</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺 XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">77F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/superkb/push?y=14" target="_blank">superkb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 原po但願您還安好</span><span class="push-right">78F 11/13 15:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Crauser/push?y=14" target="_blank">Crauser</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">79F 11/13 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/STi2011/push?y=14" target="_blank">STi2011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ....三小啦</span><span class="push-right">80F 11/13 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jabari/push?y=14" target="_blank">jabari</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 抖M島民 無誤</span><span class="push-right">81F 11/13 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bryan99999/push?y=14" target="_blank">bryan99999</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDD媒體真的是最噁心der</span><span class="push-right">82F 11/13 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kobe80001/push?y=14" target="_blank">kobe80001</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 黨媒萬歲</span><span class="push-right">83F 11/13 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cafelife/push?y=14" target="_blank">cafelife</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">84F 11/13 15:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Getbackers/push?y=14" target="_blank">Getbackers</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 看看媒體的嘴臉</span><span class="push-right">85F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/flu/push?y=14" target="_blank">flu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那時候還很流行什麼「春燕來了」一類的句子</span><span class="push-right">86F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DmCeTe/push?y=14" target="_blank">DmCeTe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推阿</span><span class="push-right">87F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/terry910333/push?y=14" target="_blank">terry910333</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">88F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Swashbuckler/push?y=14" target="_blank">Swashbuckler</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑中帶淚啊(〒皿〒)</span><span class="push-right">89F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/demonh311/push?y=14" target="_blank">demonh311</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">90F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Redkiss/push?y=14" target="_blank">Redkiss</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">91F 11/13 15:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qtgeorge/push?y=14" target="_blank">qtgeorge</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://goo.gl/CJi76Y" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/CJi76Y</a> 隨便找都有,藍營媒體真的可恥</span><span class="push-right">92F 11/13 15:42</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xzxc/push?y=14" target="_blank">xzxc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 毛毛蟲蠕動是甚麼東西...</span><span class="push-right">93F 11/13 15:42</span></div>
我知道大家都很激動 來
上面都是舊的
來幾篇新的
✕這樣的部長 在國民黨已經下台10次了 〇關中赴何處復健
2003-09-25 / 聯合晚報 / 余政憲下台?國民黨:扁應表態 李嘉進批‘這樣的部長 在
國民黨已經下台10次了
2012-11-15 / 聯合報 / 關中赴何處復健
✕水電油價四月喊漲 民眾喊苦 〇不管電費漲多少,省電你做到了多少?
2008-03-23 / 華視新聞 / 水電油價四月喊漲 民眾喊苦
2012-04-10 / 華視新聞 / 514電費漲價 節能妙招大公開
✕請多想想升斗小民面對高物價的處境 〇今天不漲 未來會被罵更慘
2007-07-19 / <span style="color:#F0F000">中國時報 / 請多想想升斗小民面對高物價的處境吧</span>
2012-04-11 / 中國時報 / 今天不漲 未來會被罵更慘
✕當發展成就與競爭力都敗給韓國 〇淡定面對日益逼近的苦日子
2007-03-29 / 經濟日報 / 當發展成就與競爭力都敗給韓國
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ressaw/push?y=14" target="_blank">ressaw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠~媒體對扁和馬的態度差太多了~</span><span class="push-right">98F 11/13 15:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rickcoo/push?y=14" target="_blank">rickcoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠 統媒真垃圾</span><span class="push-right">99F 11/13 15:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyoin/push?y=14" target="_blank">kyoin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 活不下去 M型社會都沒人說了 可見我們現在一定過得很幸福</span><span class="push-right">100F 11/13 15:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/killingni/push?y=14" target="_blank">killingni</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強大了</span><span class="push-right">101F 11/13 15:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/darkbishop/push?y=14" target="_blank">darkbishop</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 畜牲垃圾報畜牲垃圾報 畜牲垃圾報 畜牲垃圾報</span><span class="push-right">102F 11/13 15:44</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/comi0530/push?y=14" target="_blank">comi0530</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太專業了...</span><span class="push-right">104F 11/13 15:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xanthippe/push?y=14" target="_blank">xanthippe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 踹扁成國慶嘉賓 vs 罵馬要附不自殺聲明</span><span class="push-right">105F 11/13 15:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/superkb/push?y=14" target="_blank">superkb</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 還有商周 馬 愛台12建設呵呵</span><span class="push-right">106F 11/13 15:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zxcvf/push?y=14" target="_blank">zxcvf</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不要臉的媒體</span><span class="push-right">107F 11/13 15:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a880338/push?y=14" target="_blank">a880338</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">108F 11/13 15:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xanthippe/push?y=14" target="_blank">xanthippe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你的不自殺聲明呢?</span><span class="push-right">109F 11/13 15:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovejamwu/push?y=14" target="_blank">lovejamwu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 中國時報/失業者見毛毛蟲蠕蠕求生而頓生信心..厲害!</span><span class="push-right">110F 11/13 15:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leo0821/push?y=14" target="_blank">leo0821</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 專業</span><span class="push-right">111F 11/13 15:45</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nomimono/push?y=14" target="_blank">nomimono</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 又勾起當下看到薪水薄了親情厚了回憶 真他媽的</span><span class="push-right">113F 11/13 15:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/koxinga/push?y=14" target="_blank">koxinga</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 我要去看毛毛蟲了 戰鬥!</span><span class="push-right">114F 11/13 15:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orgysolitude/push?y=14" target="_blank">orgysolitude</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">115F 11/13 15:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qqkz/push?y=14" target="_blank">qqkz</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推一個</span><span class="push-right">116F 11/13 15:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace1way/push?y=14" target="_blank">peace1way</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬英九前四年,年年都有春燕要來,結果現在還沒飛到</span><span class="push-right">117F 11/13 15:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/luming/push?y=14" target="_blank">luming</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 反正阿扁執政,非洲難民都是阿扁害得 下台 叭叭叭</span><span class="push-right">118F 11/13 15:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wildkidy/push?y=14" target="_blank">wildkidy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分水嶺 幹!</span><span class="push-right">119F 11/13 15:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tingjj/push?y=14" target="_blank">tingjj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520真是照妖鏡</span><span class="push-right">120F 11/13 15:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/busweetstar/push?y=14" target="_blank">busweetstar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑死人了~</span><span class="push-right">121F 11/13 15:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/weifish/push?y=14" target="_blank">weifish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 邊笑邊覺得哀傷</span><span class="push-right">122F 11/13 15:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/psku/push?y=14" target="_blank">psku</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑了</span><span class="push-right">123F 11/13 15:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace1way/push?y=14" target="_blank">peace1way</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 把21QQ當年拿來洗臉的每段節目標題拿出來才更經典</span><span class="push-right">124F 11/13 15:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ohsshhiitt/push?y=14" target="_blank">ohsshhiitt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 乙太公怎麼不進來帶一下風向阿??????????</span><span class="push-right">125F 11/13 15:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ZYMV/push?y=14" target="_blank">ZYMV</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大推 可怕的媒體</span><span class="push-right">126F 11/13 15:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sam0303/push?y=14" target="_blank">sam0303</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨準備好了,逆風高飛,薪水26K->22K,馬冏沒說謊啊</span><span class="push-right">127F 11/13 15:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/s881720/push?y=14" target="_blank">s881720</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這分水嶺XD</span><span class="push-right">128F 11/13 15:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HowieH/push?y=14" target="_blank">HowieH</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唉 笑不出來</span><span class="push-right">129F 11/13 15:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gigigaga28/push?y=14" target="_blank">gigigaga28</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不知該哭還是該笑...</span><span class="push-right">130F 11/13 15:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stella323/push?y=14" target="_blank">stella323</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾政府</span><span class="push-right">131F 11/13 15:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/muching/push?y=14" target="_blank">muching</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 建議原PO把下面新增的部份一起整理到原文內,不會漏看</span><span class="push-right">132F 11/13 15:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kevinshyu/push?y=14" target="_blank">kevinshyu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 該死!!! 雙重標準</span><span class="push-right">133F 11/13 15:52</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/surfboy/push?y=14" target="_blank">surfboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 專業整理</span><span class="push-right">134F 11/13 15:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/regeirk/push?y=14" target="_blank">regeirk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 強</span><span class="push-right">135F 11/13 15:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/billy4305/push?y=14" target="_blank">billy4305</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺 wow</span><span class="push-right">136F 11/13 15:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cetuximab/push?y=14" target="_blank">Cetuximab</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨根本是肏他媽的賤貨爛貨回收中心</span><span class="push-right">137F 11/13 15:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SHIU0315/push?y=14" target="_blank">SHIU0315</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹XDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">138F 11/13 15:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leonian/push?y=14" target="_blank">leonian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬剛上任的時候我也有整理這種文章XD</span><span class="push-right">139F 11/13 15:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lepidoptera/push?y=14" target="_blank">lepidoptera</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">140F 11/13 15:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abububu/push?y=14" target="_blank">abububu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 想哭QQ</span><span class="push-right">141F 11/13 15:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yaya/push?y=14" target="_blank">yaya</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 阿扁</span><span class="push-right">142F 11/13 15:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamodd/push?y=14" target="_blank">iamodd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">143F 11/13 15:54</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tony77998/push?y=14" target="_blank">tony77998</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 真的是520分水嶺XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">144F 11/13 15:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DJaV/push?y=14" target="_blank">DJaV</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 滯台支那賤畜媒惡搞阿扁、袒護馬狗.一堆扒殆被牽著鼻子恨扁</span><span class="push-right">145F 11/13 15:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fxntdsxdr/push?y=14" target="_blank">fxntdsxdr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真是夠垃圾XD</span><span class="push-right">146F 11/13 15:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maxn86/push?y=14" target="_blank">maxn86</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 就雙重標準阿,一堆人還在那邊無視 可悲至極</span><span class="push-right">147F 11/13 15:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bnbn0012300/push?y=14" target="_blank">bnbn0012300</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺再現</span><span class="push-right">148F 11/13 15:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/westfour/push?y=14" target="_blank">westfour</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 欸靠北 你是怎?收集這麼多的啦?</span><span class="push-right">149F 11/13 15:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/adkue/push?y=14" target="_blank">adkue</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">150F 11/13 15:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keny/push?y=14" target="_blank">keny</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的是好大一座分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">151F 11/13 15:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/STi2011/push?y=14" target="_blank">STi2011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是那個網站啦</span><span class="push-right">152F 11/13 15:56</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yisdl/push?y=14" target="_blank">yisdl</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超強大興安嶺</span><span class="push-right">154F 11/13 15:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/julia66/push?y=14" target="_blank">julia66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可悲的藍媒跟689</span><span class="push-right">155F 11/13 15:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/groundmon/push?y=14" target="_blank">groundmon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 無恥媒體一堆 難怪蓬緊蓬那種也能當教授</span><span class="push-right">156F 11/13 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leftwalk/push?y=14" target="_blank">leftwalk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">157F 11/13 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rasputin/push?y=14" target="_blank">rasputin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高級外省人的思維洗腦,689省省吧有多少純正血統</span><span class="push-right">158F 11/13 15:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jackyyess/push?y=14" target="_blank">jackyyess</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹,真的扯</span><span class="push-right">159F 11/13 15:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/necrophagist/push?y=14" target="_blank">necrophagist</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 世界奇觀 520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">160F 11/13 15:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shunchao/push?y=14" target="_blank">shunchao</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超強整理</span><span class="push-right">161F 11/13 15:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BIGNOSER/push?y=14" target="_blank">BIGNOSER</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 520真是人類最重要的精神分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">162F 11/13 16:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cheetahspeed/push?y=14" target="_blank">cheetahspeed</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 689的傑作!!</span><span class="push-right">163F 11/13 16:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/max9527/push?y=14" target="_blank">max9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 全球最大-520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">164F 11/13 16:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wilson78225/push?y=14" target="_blank">wilson78225</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不要這麼專業好不好</span><span class="push-right">165F 11/13 16:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/adm123/push?y=14" target="_blank">adm123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: tvbs 漲2元是超貴,漲4.5元是「只漲」 XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">166F 11/13 16:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mbmh/push?y=14" target="_blank">mbmh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 薪水薄了 親情厚了</span><span class="push-right">167F 11/13 16:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/roroccc/push?y=14" target="_blank">roroccc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 在婊誰XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">168F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vera0204/push?y=14" target="_blank">vera0204</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 原來 689 害我們這麼慘阿 真想哭阿</span><span class="push-right">169F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/adm123/push?y=14" target="_blank">adm123</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這不叫媒體操作,什麼才叫媒體操作 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">170F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/m821215/push?y=14" target="_blank">m821215</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你知道的太多了</span><span class="push-right">171F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linph/push?y=14" target="_blank">linph</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 比埃佛勒斯峰還高的分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">172F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/assunny1012/push?y=14" target="_blank">assunny1012</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 噁心的媒體</span><span class="push-right">173F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kosuke/push?y=14" target="_blank">kosuke</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鬼島有這些垃圾媒體存在 還需要敵人嗎?</span><span class="push-right">174F 11/13 16:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dunhilln/push?y=14" target="_blank">dunhilln</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 條理清晰 相呼相應 佳作 你讓勝文不開心了喔 = =</span><span class="push-right">175F 11/13 16:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GoodElephant/push?y=14" target="_blank">GoodElephant</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">176F 11/13 16:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Wayne75/push?y=14" target="_blank">Wayne75</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">177F 11/13 16:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/delaysheep/push?y=14" target="_blank">delaysheep</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神了...感謝整理</span><span class="push-right">178F 11/13 16:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zeanmar/push?y=14" target="_blank">zeanmar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是蛆蛆蠕蠕求生吧XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">179F 11/13 16:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/skyoun/push?y=14" target="_blank">skyoun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 比追蹤報導類的強太多囉</span><span class="push-right">180F 11/13 16:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JamieWu/push?y=14" target="_blank">JamieWu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太可怕了 媒體居然操弄成這樣ˊ_>ˋ</span><span class="push-right">181F 11/13 16:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/imdog/push?y=14" target="_blank">imdog</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媒體真是靠北重要....</span><span class="push-right">182F 11/13 16:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chenweichih/push?y=14" target="_blank">chenweichih</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 每份報紙講自己的話而已 這樣比起來不准 其實</span><span class="push-right">183F 11/13 16:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jj95042/push?y=14" target="_blank">jj95042</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">184F 11/13 16:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/www2967/push?y=14" target="_blank">www2967</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 689覺得馬>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>></span><span class="push-right">185F 11/13 16:06</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/www2967/push?y=14" target="_blank">www2967</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 扁 大到下一行啦</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Leaves827/push?y=14" target="_blank">Leaves827</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">187F 11/13 16:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Eroica321/push?y=14" target="_blank">Eroica321</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 藍營媒體超噁心 假中立更噁心</span><span class="push-right">188F 11/13 16:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dearjohn/push?y=14" target="_blank">dearjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你贏了,說真的媒體我看也沒這guts把這篇放上去刊登。</span><span class="push-right">189F 11/13 16:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nini307/push?y=14" target="_blank">nini307</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不要那麼專業好不好</span><span class="push-right">190F 11/13 16:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dearjohn/push?y=14" target="_blank">dearjohn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 只能期待壹電視or蘋果敢不敢登了。</span><span class="push-right">191F 11/13 16:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/biteyouoh/push?y=14" target="_blank">biteyouoh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分水嶺寫一下 不然死蛆看不懂</span><span class="push-right">192F 11/13 16:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/codehard/push?y=14" target="_blank">codehard</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 鄉民都不知道蛆蛆的由來嗎</span><span class="push-right">193F 11/13 16:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/woods0598/push?y=14" target="_blank">woods0598</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd</span><span class="push-right">194F 11/13 16:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RCxx/push?y=14" target="_blank">RCxx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超強</span><span class="push-right">195F 11/13 16:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yuanjeff/push?y=14" target="_blank">yuanjeff</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 噁心分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">196F 11/13 16:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ImCPM/push?y=14" target="_blank">ImCPM</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">197F 11/13 16:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jayemshow/push?y=14" target="_blank">jayemshow</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的開始懷念阿扁了,明明做的不錯,卻被藍營媒體抹黑</span><span class="push-right">198F 11/13 16:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/killla/push?y=14" target="_blank">killla</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨餓了八年 超苦的</span><span class="push-right">199F 11/13 16:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tomatopotato/push?y=14" target="_blank">tomatopotato</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 真的很有感很想哭 你媽的國之將亡</span><span class="push-right">200F 11/13 16:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/urdie/push?y=14" target="_blank">urdie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 囯民黨媒體弱勢 ㄏㄏㄏ 完全執政 完全包裝</span><span class="push-right">201F 11/13 16:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/muching/push?y=14" target="_blank">muching</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 正直新聞竟突然當站了......怎麼回事?</span><span class="push-right">202F 11/13 16:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tamama56/push?y=14" target="_blank">Tamama56</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 689不意外</span><span class="push-right">203F 11/13 16:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ym010273/push?y=14" target="_blank">ym010273</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 噁心的媒體</span><span class="push-right">204F 11/13 16:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fetoyeh/push?y=14" target="_blank">fetoyeh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分水嶺 XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">205F 11/13 16:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ChiawenTsai/push?y=14" target="_blank">ChiawenTsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哇塞!怎麼整理的啊?太強了</span><span class="push-right">206F 11/13 16:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/axd1982/push?y=14" target="_blank">axd1982</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">207F 11/13 16:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g5637128/push?y=14" target="_blank">g5637128</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分水嶺XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">208F 11/13 16:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TIGER228/push?y=14" target="_blank">TIGER228</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好強</span><span class="push-right">209F 11/13 16:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/marimbagou/push?y=14" target="_blank">marimbagou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 欸你有點強</span><span class="push-right">210F 11/13 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/unreal29/push?y=14" target="_blank">unreal29</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDD 520分水嶺重出江湖</span><span class="push-right">211F 11/13 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acer758219/push?y=14" target="_blank">acer758219</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 出現啦 520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">212F 11/13 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guanshiun/push?y=14" target="_blank">guanshiun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺!!! 2000-2008是台灣黑歷史你不知道?</span><span class="push-right">213F 11/13 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/homer0403/push?y=14" target="_blank">homer0403</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 冤有頭債有主,不要再怪689了 ......689是洗腦後的產物</span><span class="push-right">214F 11/13 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/creulfact/push?y=14" target="_blank">creulfact</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 溫馨!</span><span class="push-right">215F 11/13 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/black5/push?y=14" target="_blank">black5</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你娘的台灣藍莓</span><span class="push-right">216F 11/13 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Tmythic/push?y=14" target="_blank">Tmythic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強了</span><span class="push-right">217F 11/13 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hellojames/push?y=14" target="_blank">hellojames</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 阿扁那八年至少出國不會被當成大陸人,幹</span><span class="push-right">218F 11/13 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SCLPAL/push?y=14" target="_blank">SCLPAL</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 靠背阿XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">219F 11/13 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dsilver/push?y=14" target="_blank">dsilver</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: push</span><span class="push-right">220F 11/13 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silentence/push?y=14" target="_blank">silentence</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 陳文茜 ( ︶︿︶)_╭∩╮</span><span class="push-right">221F 11/13 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nn1975/push?y=14" target="_blank">nn1975</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">222F 11/13 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/linboy0303/push?y=14" target="_blank">linboy0303</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 政黑版上演崩潰秀</span><span class="push-right">223F 11/13 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wowkg21/push?y=14" target="_blank">wowkg21</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹他馬的</span><span class="push-right">224F 11/13 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EPGo/push?y=14" target="_blank">EPGo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 淚推</span><span class="push-right">225F 11/13 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/userpeter/push?y=14" target="_blank">userpeter</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">226F 11/13 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tsubakiten/push?y=14" target="_blank">tsubakiten</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太厲害了</span><span class="push-right">227F 11/13 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sharonest/push?y=14" target="_blank">sharonest</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推。。。</span><span class="push-right">228F 11/13 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Xinlong/push?y=14" target="_blank">Xinlong</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 馬政府崩潰 XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">229F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jackXDD/push?y=14" target="_blank">jackXDD</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨真的很爽zz</span><span class="push-right">230F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/f1234518456/push?y=14" target="_blank">f1234518456</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">231F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/piloliq/push?y=14" target="_blank">piloliq</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分水嶺太明顯了</span><span class="push-right">232F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Eric0204/push?y=14" target="_blank">Eric0204</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">233F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/roveralex/push?y=14" target="_blank">roveralex</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 統媒臉腫到要掛急診了</span><span class="push-right">234F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/marderly/push?y=14" target="_blank">marderly</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 無良媒體 推整理</span><span class="push-right">235F 11/13 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/happinessum/push?y=14" target="_blank">happinessum</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 一堆垃圾媒體</span><span class="push-right">236F 11/13 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peter77107/push?y=14" target="_blank">peter77107</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 垃圾沒體</span><span class="push-right">237F 11/13 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ctes940008/push?y=14" target="_blank">ctes940008</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 戰力可以別這麼強嗎?</span><span class="push-right">238F 11/13 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wl760713/push?y=14" target="_blank">wl760713</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺 狗黨執政 689領22K爽得很有小確幸</span><span class="push-right">239F 11/13 16:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TaiwanSpirit/push?y=14" target="_blank">TaiwanSpirit</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太歡樂了 XD</span><span class="push-right">240F 11/13 16:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/coffee777/push?y=14" target="_blank">coffee777</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 統派崩潰</span><span class="push-right">241F 11/13 16:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g8429310/push?y=14" target="_blank">g8429310</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 死藍色媒體 國民黨黨報</span><span class="push-right">242F 11/13 16:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sandiato/push?y=14" target="_blank">sandiato</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 該幹他娘!一堆混蛋媒體</span><span class="push-right">243F 11/13 16:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/afdn/push?y=14" target="_blank">afdn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超強 XDD</span><span class="push-right">244F 11/13 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/polkmn/push?y=14" target="_blank">polkmn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ========此為520分界線========</span><span class="push-right">245F 11/13 16:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bluebo/push?y=14" target="_blank">bluebo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 唉呦 你不要這麼專業好嗎</span><span class="push-right">246F 11/13 16:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/echochrome/push?y=14" target="_blank">echochrome</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 暴民方面還好不在經濟討論 不然會多好幾頁</span><span class="push-right">247F 11/13 16:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/f204137/push?y=14" target="_blank">f204137</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑啦 媒體優勢就是這樣</span><span class="push-right">248F 11/13 16:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/echochrome/push?y=14" target="_blank">echochrome</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 以前一堆人自殺 現在賴活著也要看著KMT慘敗 好苦XD</span><span class="push-right">249F 11/13 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/orfan/push?y=14" target="_blank">orfan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 借分享到FB可以嗎~ 想高調</span><span class="push-right">250F 11/13 16:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poi96300/push?y=14" target="_blank">poi96300</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 都是they得錯 我們11/29凱道見</span><span class="push-right">251F 11/13 16:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chinick1478/push?y=14" target="_blank">chinick1478</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD你贏了</span><span class="push-right">252F 11/13 16:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/trtc/push?y=14" target="_blank">trtc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你娘,某時報真的是舔共又舔馬的懶趴舔上癮了。</span><span class="push-right">253F 11/13 16:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Areso/push?y=14" target="_blank">Areso</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 現在看來 只有自由是真相</span><span class="push-right">254F 11/13 16:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dkramses/push?y=14" target="_blank">dkramses</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 叭~叭~ 阿扁下台~~咦??</span><span class="push-right">255F 11/13 16:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/InMontauk/push?y=14" target="_blank">InMontauk</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 慘的是這種標題洗腦法真的很有用....</span><span class="push-right">256F 11/13 16:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/JackaLMeI/push?y=14" target="_blank">JackaLMeI</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媒體弱勢名不虛傳</span><span class="push-right">257F 11/13 16:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/battle7/push?y=14" target="_blank">battle7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 可是689 還是依然的支持耶...</span><span class="push-right">258F 11/13 16:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Moratti/push?y=14" target="_blank">Moratti</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD 靠杯</span><span class="push-right">259F 11/13 16:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zysman/push?y=14" target="_blank">zysman</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超強!</span><span class="push-right">260F 11/13 16:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/route22/push?y=14" target="_blank">route22</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 值得推爆</span><span class="push-right">261F 11/13 16:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/emou/push?y=14" target="_blank">emou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 是不是20080520前後是很重要的</span><span class="push-right">262F 11/13 16:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fenllo/push?y=14" target="_blank">fenllo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 受我一拜!</span><span class="push-right">263F 11/13 16:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/y86hl3/push?y=14" target="_blank">y86hl3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推啊!!哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">264F 11/13 16:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ying0502/push?y=14" target="_blank">ying0502</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 有好幾篇只差幾個月標題完全不一樣xd,陳文茜兩篇文更好</span><span class="push-right">265F 11/13 16:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/keny/push?y=14" target="_blank">keny</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 2008年5月20日真的是值得牢記的一天</span><span class="push-right">266F 11/13 16:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ying0502/push?y=14" target="_blank">ying0502</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑,kmt部長哪能換呀,每個臉皮都厚的跟什麼一樣</span><span class="push-right">267F 11/13 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GARRETH/push?y=14" target="_blank">GARRETH</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真不愧是520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">268F 11/13 16:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Centauro/push?y=14" target="_blank">Centauro</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媒體弱勢</span><span class="push-right">269F 11/13 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chien111/push?y=14" target="_blank">chien111</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 漲2元超貴 vs 只漲4.5元 真是經典</span><span class="push-right">270F 11/13 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vp89dpoub5/push?y=14" target="_blank">vp89dpoub5</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD 這篇會被抄嗎</span><span class="push-right">271F 11/13 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g1409/push?y=14" target="_blank">g1409</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好個分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">272F 11/13 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/euphoria01/push?y=14" target="_blank">euphoria01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這是甚麼幻術 太噁心了</span><span class="push-right">273F 11/13 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pamielee/push?y=14" target="_blank">pamielee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: KMT:我們國民黨 尊爵 不凡 都是they的錯</span><span class="push-right">274F 11/13 16:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chiu1505/push?y=14" target="_blank">chiu1505</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神了</span><span class="push-right">275F 11/13 16:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chehsien/push?y=14" target="_blank">chehsien</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520 超級分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">276F 11/13 16:59</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aoiaoi/push?y=14" target="_blank">aoiaoi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分隔線 還蠻好笑DER</span><span class="push-right">279F 11/13 17:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iam0718/push?y=14" target="_blank">iam0718</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不要讓kmter不開心</span><span class="push-right">280F 11/13 17:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/itachi0609/push?y=14" target="_blank">itachi0609</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 強大的分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">281F 11/13 17:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/traipse/push?y=14" target="_blank">traipse</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 起薪26K 股市9千多點 沒有很補的黑心油可吃 超級苦的啦</span><span class="push-right">282F 11/13 17:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/oeibei/push?y=14" target="_blank">oeibei</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XXD</span><span class="push-right">283F 11/13 17:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/traipse/push?y=14" target="_blank">traipse</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 經濟不能推給大環境<2008 520分水嶺>大環境巧婦難為</span><span class="push-right">284F 11/13 17:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Nassiria/push?y=14" target="_blank">Nassiria</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這太強了, 不推不行</span><span class="push-right">285F 11/13 17:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/xx60824xx/push?y=14" target="_blank">xx60824xx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹 520分水嶺阿</span><span class="push-right">286F 11/13 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/windangellin/push?y=14" target="_blank">windangellin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 毛毛蟲三小啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">287F 11/13 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ionchips/push?y=14" target="_blank">ionchips</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 毛毛蟲XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 這什麼鬼標題</span><span class="push-right">288F 11/13 17:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/newgpx/push?y=14" target="_blank">newgpx</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 689萬喜憨偏偏就是會信這些鳥新聞標題 去牠的520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">289F 11/13 17:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/inanna38/push?y=14" target="_blank">inanna38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨禍國殃民,死一萬次都對不起老百姓</span><span class="push-right">290F 11/13 17:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gfneo/push?y=14" target="_blank">gfneo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 金告北XDDD</span><span class="push-right">291F 11/13 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hdjj/push?y=14" target="_blank">hdjj</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹,這篇我看了大笑.XD</span><span class="push-right">292F 11/13 17:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yoher/push?y=14" target="_blank">yoher</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 大520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">293F 11/13 17:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BENNY49/push?y=14" target="_blank">BENNY49</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超會整理的啦 你考試都有幾霸分喔</span><span class="push-right">294F 11/13 17:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/weimr/push?y=14" target="_blank">weimr</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強惹</span><span class="push-right">295F 11/13 17:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/andyssfresh/push?y=14" target="_blank">andyssfresh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">296F 11/13 17:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NTJL/push?y=14" target="_blank">NTJL</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ~520分水嶺~</span><span class="push-right">297F 11/13 17:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Hekate/push?y=14" target="_blank">Hekate</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太神拉 果然很中壢出的報紙</span><span class="push-right">298F 11/13 17:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/boggae/push?y=14" target="_blank">boggae</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 腿</span><span class="push-right">299F 11/13 17:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tokyo730714/push?y=14" target="_blank">tokyo730714</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 專業</span><span class="push-right">300F 11/13 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CharleneTsai/push?y=14" target="_blank">CharleneTsai</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDD 520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">301F 11/13 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tyriel/push?y=14" target="_blank">tyriel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 笑中帶淚 EO4</span><span class="push-right">302F 11/13 17:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tigerxu/push?y=14" target="_blank">tigerxu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈</span><span class="push-right">303F 11/13 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tokyo730714/push?y=14" target="_blank">tokyo730714</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 扁末年那時候媒體根本全力追殺好嗎 現在差多了</span><span class="push-right">304F 11/13 17:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e761031/push?y=14" target="_blank">e761031</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺太神啦!!!</span><span class="push-right">305F 11/13 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jeneaqa1/push?y=14" target="_blank">jeneaqa1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超級分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">306F 11/13 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tokyo730714/push?y=14" target="_blank">tokyo730714</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 那時候連政治人物都可堂而皇之說人人得而誅之</span><span class="push-right">307F 11/13 17:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/thesearcher/push?y=14" target="_blank">thesearcher</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 顯著性差異</span><span class="push-right">308F 11/13 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tokyo730714/push?y=14" target="_blank">tokyo730714</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 全民恨不得阿扁關到死</span><span class="push-right">309F 11/13 17:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹....</span><span class="push-right">310F 11/13 17:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/smonkey/push?y=14" target="_blank">smonkey</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媒體都是KMT養出來的,還真不是空穴來風</span><span class="push-right">311F 11/13 17:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zxcbrian/push?y=14" target="_blank">zxcbrian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推整理 XD</span><span class="push-right">312F 11/13 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 某黨果然是媒體弱勢</span><span class="push-right">313F 11/13 17:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/higameboy/push?y=14" target="_blank">higameboy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">314F 11/13 17:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatedate/push?y=14" target="_blank">fatedate</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺無誤</span><span class="push-right">315F 11/13 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/matt13205/push?y=14" target="_blank">matt13205</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇實在是太強了</span><span class="push-right">316F 11/13 17:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amadda/push?y=14" target="_blank">amadda</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你知道的太多了</span><span class="push-right">317F 11/13 17:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ss60305/push?y=14" target="_blank">ss60305</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媽的爛媒體 還有一堆呆灣奴隸繼續傻傻被騙</span><span class="push-right">318F 11/13 17:57</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/file70042/push?y=14" target="_blank">file70042</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 差超多</span><span class="push-right">319F 11/13 17:57</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/file70042/push?y=14" target="_blank">file70042</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 分水嶺不是叫假的...</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Whitening/push?y=14" target="_blank">Whitening</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強了!</span><span class="push-right">321F 11/13 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/destiny0503/push?y=14" target="_blank">destiny0503</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹這篇太屌了XDDD 媒體根本看政黨報導 爛透了</span><span class="push-right">322F 11/13 17:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hihilove/push?y=14" target="_blank">hihilove</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好悲哀…人民就這樣被媒體操弄 陳水扁真的超慘</span><span class="push-right">323F 11/13 18:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/newacc/push?y=14" target="_blank">newacc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹你不懂啦,騜當政讓大家都變樂觀啦</span><span class="push-right">324F 11/13 18:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chris590/push?y=14" target="_blank">chris590</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 無言以對...</span><span class="push-right">325F 11/13 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/l83OGC5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">l83OGC5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好強</span><span class="push-right">326F 11/13 18:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kevin791112/push?y=14" target="_blank">kevin791112</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">327F 11/13 18:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/otld/push?y=14" target="_blank">otld</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 地球上最高峰絕對是520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">328F 11/13 18:11</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/invander/push?y=14" target="_blank">invander</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">329F 11/13 18:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cabron/push?y=14" target="_blank">cabron</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 毛毛蟲經典啊!!!</span><span class="push-right">330F 11/13 18:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dtdon1699/push?y=14" target="_blank">dtdon1699</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 突破盲腸 衝破天際XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">331F 11/13 18:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/losterchen/push?y=14" target="_blank">losterchen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 兩黨一樣爛 dpp候選人太爛投不下去 但kmt爛的可以續流</span><span class="push-right">332F 11/13 18:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/K951753/push?y=14" target="_blank">K951753</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 說兩黨一樣爛的人要去看眼科了</span><span class="push-right">333F 11/13 18:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/agaer/push?y=14" target="_blank">agaer</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 沒m?</span><span class="push-right">334F 11/13 18:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yankeehater/push?y=14" target="_blank">yankeehater</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇太強大了</span><span class="push-right">335F 11/13 18:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Newschool/push?y=14" target="_blank">Newschool</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 統媒吃大便</span><span class="push-right">336F 11/13 18:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abian/push?y=14" target="_blank">abian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ︿ㄟㄟㄟㄟㄟ520分水嶺ㄟㄟㄟㄟㄟㄟ</span><span class="push-right">337F 11/13 18:31</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abian/push?y=14" target="_blank">abian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: ↖聖母峰</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qxpbyd/push?y=14" target="_blank">qxpbyd</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺!!!</span><span class="push-right">339F 11/13 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kleinregen/push?y=14" target="_blank">kleinregen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 你突破盲腸了XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">340F 11/13 18:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovelovefree/push?y=14" target="_blank">lovelovefree</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 強大的分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">341F 11/13 18:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/colorful/push?y=14" target="_blank">colorful</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 國民黨操縱媒體力量也太可怕了!!!!</span><span class="push-right">342F 11/13 18:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/silentence/push?y=14" target="_blank">silentence</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 嗆馬的在08年真是先知</span><span class="push-right">343F 11/13 18:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a2156700/push?y=14" target="_blank">a2156700</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 毛毛蟲也寫的出來</span><span class="push-right">344F 11/13 18:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ricrollp/push?y=14" target="_blank">Ricrollp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強了XDD</span><span class="push-right">345F 11/13 18:50</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cj3636736/push?y=14" target="_blank">Cj3636736</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超靠北 真●520分水嶺XD</span><span class="push-right">346F 11/13 18:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mayuyuki/push?y=14" target="_blank">mayuyuki</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 強</span><span class="push-right">347F 11/13 18:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/donkey221/push?y=14" target="_blank">donkey221</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Ktm不倒臺灣不會好……</span><span class="push-right">348F 11/13 18:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/transwrap/push?y=14" target="_blank">transwrap</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不推不行</span><span class="push-right">349F 11/13 19:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/p2p8ppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">p2p8ppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇太神了</span><span class="push-right">350F 11/13 19:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/er26562002/push?y=14" target="_blank">er26562002</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">351F 11/13 19:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ImMACACO/push?y=14" target="_blank">ImMACACO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">352F 11/13 19:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/therawarm/push?y=14" target="_blank">therawarm</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">353F 11/13 19:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/morgan13/push?y=14" target="_blank">morgan13</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 689誤了全台</span><span class="push-right">354F 11/13 19:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/piliwu/push?y=14" target="_blank">piliwu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">355F 11/13 19:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fifi0828/push?y=14" target="_blank">fifi0828</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超強打臉</span><span class="push-right">356F 11/13 19:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/modjo/push?y=14" target="_blank">modjo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">357F 11/13 19:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gilonglee/push?y=14" target="_blank">gilonglee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 都要寫兩種稿,記者真辛苦</span><span class="push-right">358F 11/13 19:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pololo61201/push?y=14" target="_blank">pololo61201</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">359F 11/13 19:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/totogood/push?y=14" target="_blank">totogood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這種政府 這些媒體 逼哀</span><span class="push-right">360F 11/13 19:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cmid05/push?y=14" target="_blank">cmid05</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 〇失業看毛毛蟲生信心 看起來是新梗</span><span class="push-right">361F 11/13 19:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Trionychidae/push?y=14" target="_blank">Trionychidae</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 高調</span><span class="push-right">362F 11/13 19:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/joyc06u6/push?y=14" target="_blank">joyc06u6</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">363F 11/13 19:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TommyYuen/push?y=14" target="_blank">TommyYuen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 神</span><span class="push-right">364F 11/13 20:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/omolando/push?y=14" target="_blank">omolando</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 噁心 支那媒體真是噁心到了極點</span><span class="push-right">365F 11/13 20:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/germing/push?y=14" target="_blank">germing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: @@不意外 看過《被囚禁的台灣》後我也才發現媒體已經赤</span><span class="push-right">366F 11/13 20:07</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/germing/push?y=14" target="_blank">germing</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 化十幾年了 根本ㄧ直在洗腦台灣人</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MermaidFA/push?y=14" target="_blank">MermaidFA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 活不下去 520分水嶺 不應該一直報自殺</span><span class="push-right">368F 11/13 20:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/PlayPtt/push?y=14" target="_blank">PlayPtt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">369F 11/13 20:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amury/push?y=14" target="_blank">amury</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好一個媒體弱勢的國民黨</span><span class="push-right">370F 11/13 20:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jsbptt/push?y=14" target="_blank">jsbptt</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這值得收入精華區</span><span class="push-right">371F 11/13 20:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bluebugi/push?y=14" target="_blank">bluebugi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 屎蛆無誤</span><span class="push-right">372F 11/13 20:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/DALUGI/push?y=14" target="_blank">DALUGI</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XDDD</span><span class="push-right">373F 11/13 20:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GAtely/push?y=14" target="_blank">GAtely</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 酸阿扁的時候,報紙還看得下去,現在粉飾太平到一個噁心地步</span><span class="push-right">374F 11/13 20:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/log1118/push?y=14" target="_blank">log1118</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://youtu.be/teAfGJKMpHQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/teAfGJKMpHQ</a> 施文彬新歌應該改520分水嶺</span><span class="push-right">375F 11/13 20:50</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teAfGJKMpHQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>雙重標準MV-文跡奇武③歸組害了了-施文彬 - YouTube</strong></a>
山川壯麗,物產豐隆,本島島民,選擇性耳聾,炎黃世冑,東亞 稱雄,本島島民,標準也雙重,公理自抱自棄,歪理盲聽盲從, 只准自己恐龍,不准別人臭蟲,只嫌他人驢臭嘴,不管自己馬上 瘋,自己漲價叫做反應成本,別人漲價叫做漲價龜公,別人放屁 簡直狗屁不通,自己放屁都算耀祖光宗,已踐民國,已禁大同, 同心同德,貫徹始終。 【...</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/teAfGJKMpHQ?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/teAfGJKMpHQ/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: <a href="http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130916/270772.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130916/270772.htm</a></span><span class="push-right">376F 11/13 20:51</span></div>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130916/270772.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>史上新低!馬英九斬王太粗糙 年代民調:滿意度剩9.2% | ETtoday政治新聞 | ETtoday 新聞雲</strong></a>
<div class="img" data-ori_w="600" data-ori_h="450" style="width:600px;height:450px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://static.ettoday.net/images/398/d398023.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>馬王九月鬥,許多民眾都在看,不少人覺得馬英九「動作粗糙太急」,反而落得未審先判的口舌之爭,就連佛光山開山宗長星雲大師都希望馬王能握手言和、放下執著;媒體人陳文茜也說,「面子是最不重要的」建議馬就此打住。根據《年代電視》最新民調,馬連任至今一年多,滿意度僅剩9.2%,再創史上新低。(馬英九,王金平,民調,罷免,關說,立法院長) ...</div></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這樣說不太公平 馬民調 TVBS 11% 年代 9.2%</span><span class="push-right">377F 11/13 20:53</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pppeeeppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">pppeeeppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 人家藍媒也很用心在做民調阿...根本不是馬迷XDDDD</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/u9161031/push?y=14" target="_blank">u9161031</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">379F 11/13 20:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hxhjerry/push?y=14" target="_blank">hxhjerry</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 辛苦了</span><span class="push-right">380F 11/13 20:55</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lineagjason/push?y=14" target="_blank">lineagjason</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 媒體都狗黨養的....不意外</span><span class="push-right">381F 11/13 21:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/isrex/push?y=14" target="_blank">isrex</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 幹</span><span class="push-right">382F 11/13 21:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/pro33342/push?y=14" target="_blank">pro33342</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超好笑</span><span class="push-right">383F 11/13 21:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Asucks/push?y=14" target="_blank">Asucks</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇完全揭露親藍媒體爆笑的雙重標準</span><span class="push-right">384F 11/13 21:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tonykingtwo/push?y=14" target="_blank">tonykingtwo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 經典</span><span class="push-right">385F 11/13 21:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/z09211290/push?y=14" target="_blank">z09211290</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哀...</span><span class="push-right">386F 11/13 21:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hedonic/push?y=14" target="_blank">hedonic</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: Xd</span><span class="push-right">387F 11/13 22:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tonys1126/push?y=14" target="_blank">tonys1126</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 哈哈哈哈哈哈 689看了自尉爽翻天</span><span class="push-right">388F 11/13 22:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ruthcat/push?y=14" target="_blank">Ruthcat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 現在河裡都看不到小魚了,只好慘看毛毛蟲 T_T</span><span class="push-right">389F 11/13 22:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nsaids/push?y=14" target="_blank">nsaids</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 這篇強到爆</span><span class="push-right">390F 11/13 22:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/u9161031/push?y=14" target="_blank">u9161031</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">391F 11/13 22:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bonnie0218/push?y=14" target="_blank">bonnie0218</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 臺灣媒體真噁</span><span class="push-right">392F 11/13 22:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iso903306/push?y=14" target="_blank">iso903306</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 超可憐 唉 只會操弄媒體</span><span class="push-right">393F 11/13 23:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yauwin/push?y=14" target="_blank">yauwin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推用新整理= =</span><span class="push-right">394F 11/13 23:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jimmysquidy/push?y=14" target="_blank">jimmysquidy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 520分水嶺無誤</span><span class="push-right">395F 11/13 23:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hikaru092024/push?y=14" target="_blank">hikaru092024</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 紅的明顯 我覺得應該也要有作者的名字吧?這樣或許</span><span class="push-right">396F 11/14 00:04</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hikaru092024/push?y=14" target="_blank">hikaru092024</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 似乎太斷章取義?</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hikaru092024/push?y=14" target="_blank">hikaru092024</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 而且這種新聞很容易就被反駁,基礎太微薄弱</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hikaru092024/push?y=14" target="_blank">hikaru092024</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 很容易對方也會找到東西斷章取義反而傷到自己</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kevin8290/push?y=14" target="_blank">kevin8290</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 反正我是信了</span><span class="push-right">400F 11/14 00:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abian/push?y=14" target="_blank">abian</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 連結點進去有每一篇的作者名或不具名的"社論"xd</span><span class="push-right">401F 11/14 01:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsienchih/push?y=14" target="_blank">hsienchih</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 洗腦白爛報</span><span class="push-right">402F 11/14 01:15</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/colenken/push?y=14" target="_blank">colenken</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 傳說中的520分水嶺,689最愛的雙重標準</span><span class="push-right">403F 11/14 01:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Dulcia/push?y=14" target="_blank">Dulcia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">404F 11/14 01:52</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guestcyc/push?y=14" target="_blank">guestcyc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好噁心的嘴臉 國民黨在控制媒體幫自己擦脂抹粉這點上面</span><span class="push-right">405F 11/14 02:10</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guestcyc/push?y=14" target="_blank">guestcyc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 真的是痛電民進黨 洗腦功力一流 盲從一點的真的很容易被</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guestcyc/push?y=14" target="_blank">guestcyc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 蠱惑愚弄</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/datum/push?y=14" target="_blank">datum</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 好棒棒的媒體弱勢啊</span><span class="push-right">408F 11/14 03:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/easonchen2/push?y=14" target="_blank">easonchen2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 強</span><span class="push-right">409F 11/14 10:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BB2003/push?y=14" target="_blank">BB2003</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: XD</span><span class="push-right">410F 11/14 10:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/satyrs05/push?y=14" target="_blank">satyrs05</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 但事689還是覺得可以投</span><span class="push-right">411F 11/14 13:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/w235/push?y=14" target="_blank">w235</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">412F 11/14 15:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LuvA/push?y=14" target="_blank">LuvA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 太強啊啊</span><span class="push-right">413F 11/14 16:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/badabgel/push?y=14" target="_blank">badabgel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">414F 11/14 21:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fqoff/push?y=14" target="_blank">fqoff</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">415F 11/14 22:15</span></div>
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讚 a156992000:高下立馬分!果然扁維拉
→ <span style="color:#FF0">fasd72</span><span style="color:#808000">:真的雙重立場雙重標準,厲害</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">t0921354436</span><span style="color:#808000">:管他什麼時代~~我覺得台灣一直都很苦</span>
讚 hatawa:必須推爆
→ <span style="color:#FF0">free_man</span><span style="color:#808000">:KMT自稱媒體弱勢真相了。以前阿扁被胡亂修理現在很少人記得...因為鬼島人的健忘症吃太多黑心食品太嚴重。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">palipali</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那狗的雙重標準阿,我早就不意外</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">SinCos</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以要扳倒 KMT 的任何其他政黨 , 必先取得媒體優勢, 不管明的暗的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">smallfish</span><span style="color:#808000">:雙重標準阿 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tranquilmare</span><span style="color:#808000">:雙重標準的屎蛆就愛這味啊 你忘了說兩黨一樣爛 含淚投KMT Q_Q</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Shuo19971203</span><span style="color:#808000">:520分水嶺</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在好苦好苦,苦到沒錢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Sifox</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠關係、走後門、鑽漏洞的黑心企業都覺得好苦!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zj0509</span><span style="color:#808000">:快放了阿扁!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">leetensan</span><span style="color:#808000">:說到520分水嶺還有一個很重要的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">leetensan</span><span style="color:#808000">:就是台灣進口可食用豬油的量也是520之後大幅降低</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">leetensan</span><span style="color:#808000">:至於被什麼東西替代那我想應該不用再解釋了XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">simon9331</span><span style="color:#808000">:換黨執政沒得貪污了當然日子很難過啊!!!連家就是這樣苦過來的呢!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Frank168</span><span style="color:#808000">:難怪為什麼會被稱為扁維拉,搞不好就是這個原因XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">romaine</span><span style="color:#808000">:藍綠報紙都會護航~這點沒異議~ </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">romaine</span><span style="color:#808000">:但事實要看的是...阿扁時期是有比馬冏時期苦到哪啦...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">romaine</span><span style="color:#808000">:還沒看清的KMT粉真的別再鬧了,馬時期油水電瓦斯漲房價高,便當小吃麵包通通連漲...,阿扁時期薪資26K...馬冏時期薪資22K...,給KMT執政才是真正的民不聊生</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">b1120600</span><span style="color:#808000">:推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aspeed</span><span style="color:#808000">:阿扁時代比馬好太多了 現在台灣路上一堆426 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BruceX</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZyo9O_700b.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZyo9O_700b.jpg</a></span>
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讚 PokeBird:媒體藍欄的好憂鬱QQ
讚 ht951753504:快放了阿扁
讚 rogertw0423:為什麼又要霸凌馬英九,你們要把他逼到自殺嗎?
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">huzc0606</span><span style="color:#808000">:薪資倒退20年,但都被媒體洗腦,台灣人真可悲</span>
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讚 e29837509:哈~你看看你~藍蛆也會自慰!而且~~射了自己滿臉.....
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zj0509</span><span style="color:#808000">:不要小看訊息操作,愚民最吃這套,KMT能存活百年以上也不簡單,他們很懂得洗腦的重要性</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ifay</span><span style="color:#808000">:扁迷下去領500</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lasumxx</span><span style="color:#808000">:爛了七年…再洗也是黑的…敢快推出…小馬哥3.0比較實在!</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">yldl</span><span style="color:#808000">:經典</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">v8yw</span><span style="color:#808000">:我是賣家..阿扁時代一台相機賣10000一堆人搶..馬正腐蝕代7000無人聞問</span>
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eric999.
Re: [新聞] 陸網友:可笑的民主我們不稀罕
http://disp.cc/b/1022-7rya
2014-03-19T16:14:27+08:00
2014-11-12T15:38:37+08:00
不是有個中國作家講過,
他每次在網上看到中國網友批評西方民主,
他就像看到一群太監在講,你看,做愛多傷身啊,還會得病,
還好我們早閹了。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> eric999 (eric999)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [新聞] 陸網友:可笑的民主我們不稀罕<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Mar 19 16:14:27 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span class="record">※ 引述《jardon (扎伊德魯納斯極儥舅鉥等)》之銘言:</span>
<span class="quote">: 紅衫軍開夜市---->民主的展現阿</span>
<span class="quote">: 學生占領立院---->暴力,不稀罕這種民主</span>
<span class="quote">: 426不稀罕很好阿,反正你們當狗被奴役習慣了</span>
<span class="quote">: 64後就怕死了,你們80後的對不起64前輩</span>
<span class="quote">: 談民主?去食糞吧</span>
不是有個中國作家講過,
他每次在網上看到中國網友批評西方民主,
他就像看到一群太監在講,你看,做愛多傷身啊,還會得病,
還好我們早閹了。
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jardon/push?y=14" target="_blank">jardon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只能看 不能作</span><span class="push-right">54F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bliece/push?y=14" target="_blank">bliece</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!超酸</span><span class="push-right">55F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lostsoap9527/push?y=14" target="_blank">lostsoap9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這pH值是負的XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">56F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guysBBBB/push?y=14" target="_blank">guysBBBB</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推推推推</span><span class="push-right">57F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eas06u4/push?y=14" target="_blank">eas06u4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸酸DER</span><span class="push-right">58F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jonny60314/push?y=14" target="_blank">jonny60314</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸到我法郎值都沒了</span><span class="push-right">59F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dtdon1699/push?y=14" target="_blank">dtdon1699</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDD</span><span class="push-right">60F 03/19 16:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peoplefu5566/push?y=14" target="_blank">peoplefu5566</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超好笑 太中肯</span><span class="push-right">61F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/child1027/push?y=14" target="_blank">child1027</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">62F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poca/push?y=14" target="_blank">poca</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">63F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jackace/push?y=14" target="_blank">jackace</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:趕快po到對面去</span><span class="push-right">64F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/after1/push?y=14" target="_blank">after1</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太酸了. 加點糖吧</span><span class="push-right">65F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/suck9527/push?y=14" target="_blank">suck9527</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:王水等級</span><span class="push-right">66F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/purpleflower/push?y=14" target="_blank">purpleflower</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑又有中肯!推!</span><span class="push-right">67F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mpppppp/push?y=14" target="_blank">mpppppp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:一針見血</span><span class="push-right">68F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/GenHanMon/push?y=14" target="_blank">GenHanMon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">69F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lmc66/push?y=14" target="_blank">lmc66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹 有夠貼切</span><span class="push-right">70F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stacey6428/push?y=14" target="_blank">stacey6428</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">71F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/creulfact/push?y=14" target="_blank">creulfact</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDD 唉喔 我的媽呀 好痠喔</span><span class="push-right">72F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jayjayjay51/push?y=14" target="_blank">jayjayjay51</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神回覆</span><span class="push-right">73F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/imjeffreylee/push?y=14" target="_blank">imjeffreylee</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">74F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/omica/push?y=14" target="_blank">omica</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯啦XDD</span><span class="push-right">75F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nekotoast/push?y=14" target="_blank">nekotoast</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這甚麼神比喻</span><span class="push-right">76F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/buyo/push?y=14" target="_blank">buyo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中國有識之士對那些5毛糞青黨工一向是下手不知道輕重 XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">77F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ny2f71/push?y=14" target="_blank">ny2f71</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">78F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BiBiG/push?y=14" target="_blank">BiBiG</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:事實就是如此阿XD</span><span class="push-right">79F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/NBAsucks/push?y=14" target="_blank">NBAsucks</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:你不要那麼專業好不好</span><span class="push-right">80F 03/19 16:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hochuck/push?y=14" target="_blank">hochuck</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸到破表....</span><span class="push-right">81F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yinchun/push?y=14" target="_blank">yinchun</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">82F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/homochi777/push?y=14" target="_blank">homochi777</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:贊</span><span class="push-right">83F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/defendant/push?y=14" target="_blank">defendant</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哪位作家?</span><span class="push-right">84F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/auel/push?y=14" target="_blank">auel</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推XD</span><span class="push-right">85F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/evil0108/push?y=14" target="_blank">evil0108</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推</span><span class="push-right">86F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/flydragon198/push?y=14" target="_blank">flydragon198</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:讚</span><span class="push-right">87F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/StarS/push?y=14" target="_blank">StarS</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這酸的超中肯的</span><span class="push-right">88F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bala73/push?y=14" target="_blank">bala73</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神婊</span><span class="push-right">89F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cocaine26/push?y=14" target="_blank">cocaine26</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">90F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/song1234/push?y=14" target="_blank">song1234</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">91F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vul3vmp4/push?y=14" target="_blank">vul3vmp4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸葡萄阿</span><span class="push-right">92F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/remprogress/push?y=14" target="_blank">remprogress</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">93F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ives20130/push?y=14" target="_blank">Ives20130</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">94F 03/19 16:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/okmn/push?y=14" target="_blank">okmn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹哈哈哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">95F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yjjia/push?y=14" target="_blank">yjjia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻阿~</span><span class="push-right">96F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hahabis/push?y=14" target="_blank">hahabis</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真他媽的精闢</span><span class="push-right">97F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gooff/push?y=14" target="_blank">gooff</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈 讚</span><span class="push-right">98F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qoosky/push?y=14" target="_blank">qoosky</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯 以後講大陸人就拿這段話出來好了!</span><span class="push-right">99F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lamda/push?y=14" target="_blank">lamda</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 XD</span><span class="push-right">100F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ricrollp/push?y=14" target="_blank">Ricrollp</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯</span><span class="push-right">101F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SolarSoul/push?y=14" target="_blank">SolarSoul</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:作家名希望</span><span class="push-right">102F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dswen/push?y=14" target="_blank">dswen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有笑有推</span><span class="push-right">103F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FranKang/push?y=14" target="_blank">FranKang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這老梗了,怎麼都可以灌一篇還這麼多推</span><span class="push-right">104F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Goog1e/push?y=14" target="_blank">Goog1e</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">105F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sunnyC/push?y=14" target="_blank">sunnyC</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好譬喻</span><span class="push-right">106F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guysBBBB/push?y=14" target="_blank">guysBBBB</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這篇不爆不科學</span><span class="push-right">107F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Leeneo/push?y=14" target="_blank">Leeneo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">108F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FranKang/push?y=14" target="_blank">FranKang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:而且還講不完全,只講一半</span><span class="push-right">109F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Alrife/push?y=14" target="_blank">Alrife</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈神比喻!!!</span><span class="push-right">110F 03/19 16:21</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/EPGo/push?y=14" target="_blank">EPGo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">111F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amg791227/push?y=14" target="_blank">amg791227</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真是精闢~~~</span><span class="push-right">112F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aax/push?y=14" target="_blank">aax</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">113F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/FranKang/push?y=14" target="_blank">FranKang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:另一半:一群乞丐在議論鈔票細菌多骯髒,還是咱要飯乾淨</span><span class="push-right">114F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsx26997785/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsx26997785</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好像在2011年微薄看過 現在還滿中肯的</span><span class="push-right">115F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blackphantom/push?y=14" target="_blank">blackphantom</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:問君能有幾多愁?洽似太監上青樓。沒覽轎就是這樣</span><span class="push-right">116F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chris7/push?y=14" target="_blank">chris7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">117F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ke0434/push?y=14" target="_blank">ke0434</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈</span><span class="push-right">118F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ipodnapin/push?y=14" target="_blank">ipodnapin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯阿</span><span class="push-right">119F 03/19 16:22</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ko363630/push?y=14" target="_blank">ko363630</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:xdd 本日最中肯 有夠酸的!!</span><span class="push-right">120F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bloodyway/push?y=14" target="_blank">bloodyway</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">121F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gn780802/push?y=14" target="_blank">gn780802</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不知不覺幫太監捲舌發音 好不蘇胡</span><span class="push-right">122F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nojoewu/push?y=14" target="_blank">nojoewu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">123F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jimtcc/push?y=14" target="_blank">jimtcc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:今日看到最中肯的回應~~~</span><span class="push-right">124F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/killeryuan/push?y=14" target="_blank">killeryuan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:看哪 鈔票上細菌這麼多 幸好咱是要飯的</span><span class="push-right">125F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SpiceKey/push?y=14" target="_blank">SpiceKey</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹XD</span><span class="push-right">126F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fallen01/push?y=14" target="_blank">fallen01</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:台肯</span><span class="push-right">127F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wateryou/push?y=14" target="_blank">wateryou</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">128F 03/19 16:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/peace305/push?y=14" target="_blank">peace305</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哇....這有點強XD</span><span class="push-right">129F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/k2124/push?y=14" target="_blank">k2124</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑惹</span><span class="push-right">130F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eltrise/push?y=14" target="_blank">eltrise</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">131F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a09428/push?y=14" target="_blank">a09428</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯了!</span><span class="push-right">132F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/HNO3/push?y=14" target="_blank">HNO3</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd</span><span class="push-right">133F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wymca/push?y=14" target="_blank">wymca</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:幹 有笑有推 XDDD</span><span class="push-right">134F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/revive25/push?y=14" target="_blank">revive25</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻!!</span><span class="push-right">135F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/benjaminchia/push?y=14" target="_blank">benjaminchia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸的破表</span><span class="push-right">136F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/eric999/push?y=14" target="_blank">eric999</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒記錯,好像是王朔的樣子。</span><span class="push-right">137F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bightw24261/push?y=14" target="_blank">bightw24261</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神</span><span class="push-right">138F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cadie/push?y=14" target="_blank">cadie</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠腰...好笑..XDD</span><span class="push-right">139F 03/19 16:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/flydragon198/push?y=14" target="_blank">flydragon198</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真可惜我有LP來反服貿,晚上還要做愛,超傷身</span><span class="push-right">140F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gein/push?y=14" target="_blank">gein</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">141F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e31503/push?y=14" target="_blank">e31503</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">142F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bernicellu/push?y=14" target="_blank">bernicellu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:很好阿..那服貿擱置好了..開放個雕</span><span class="push-right">143F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/collen66/push?y=14" target="_blank">collen66</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD這次真的中肯</span><span class="push-right">144F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/TNTKK/push?y=14" target="_blank">TNTKK</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:HAHA</span><span class="push-right">145F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/alan8130/push?y=14" target="_blank">alan8130</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好</span><span class="push-right">146F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/acont/push?y=14" target="_blank">acont</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推 說得好</span><span class="push-right">147F 03/19 16:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Blackisgood/push?y=14" target="_blank">Blackisgood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:射精超爽的你們都不知道</span><span class="push-right">148F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/may91123nice/push?y=14" target="_blank">may91123nice</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">149F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jorden/push?y=14" target="_blank">jorden</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">150F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsin627/push?y=14" target="_blank">hsin627</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">151F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/taff/push?y=14" target="_blank">taff</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:簡直霸王酸!</span><span class="push-right">152F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/KingKingCold/push?y=14" target="_blank">KingKingCold</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:問君能有幾多愁??恰似一群太監上青樓</span><span class="push-right">153F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Szss/push?y=14" target="_blank">Szss</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">154F 03/19 16:26</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nanako81240/push?y=14" target="_blank">nanako81240</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">155F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ayaerika/push?y=14" target="_blank">ayaerika</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">156F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sinful/push?y=14" target="_blank">Sinful</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太監也是會射精的! 你說這批連睪丸都割了?</span><span class="push-right">157F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/qn/push?y=14" target="_blank">qn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">158F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wayne3611qwe/push?y=14" target="_blank">wayne3611qwe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">159F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovekwen/push?y=14" target="_blank">lovekwen</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">160F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/minuon/push?y=14" target="_blank">minuon</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:我喜歡你的形容~</span><span class="push-right">161F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/yaya/push?y=14" target="_blank">yaya</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">162F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jcto04/push?y=14" target="_blank">jcto04</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">163F 03/19 16:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dafeiiiii/push?y=14" target="_blank">dafeiiiii</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">164F 03/19 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tovshang/push?y=14" target="_blank">tovshang</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">165F 03/19 16:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/zergtide/push?y=14" target="_blank">zergtide</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這pH=0了....</span><span class="push-right">166F 03/19 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jsyunlin/push?y=14" target="_blank">jsyunlin</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:得分~</span><span class="push-right">167F 03/19 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jungleh/push?y=14" target="_blank">jungleh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超中肯</span><span class="push-right">168F 03/19 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sakaizawa/push?y=14" target="_blank">sakaizawa</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 689會生氣的</span><span class="push-right">169F 03/19 16:29</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blackcateva/push?y=14" target="_blank">blackcateva</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">170F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/AlleyCats/push?y=14" target="_blank">AlleyCats</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠~好酸~</span><span class="push-right">171F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/meetyou76/push?y=14" target="_blank">meetyou76</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:公公公公公公公公公公偏頭痛~</span><span class="push-right">172F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/RUNINTO/push?y=14" target="_blank">RUNINTO</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不推不行!~!!</span><span class="push-right">173F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nsmmsn/push?y=14" target="_blank">nsmmsn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:! 爆笑推</span><span class="push-right">174F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Moratti/push?y=14" target="_blank">Moratti</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDD 中國人超可悲</span><span class="push-right">175F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rosemary251/push?y=14" target="_blank">rosemary251</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">176F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/CFfisher/push?y=14" target="_blank">CFfisher</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑死XDDD</span><span class="push-right">177F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kazushige/push?y=14" target="_blank">kazushige</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:好酸好中肯XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">178F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/abucat/push?y=14" target="_blank">abucat</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻</span><span class="push-right">179F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ghede/push?y=14" target="_blank">ghede</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯了</span><span class="push-right">180F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/cigi/push?y=14" target="_blank">cigi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">181F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/d1234509/push?y=14" target="_blank">d1234509</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超酸XDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">182F 03/19 16:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WilliamXZ/push?y=14" target="_blank">WilliamXZ</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒得做 只好酸一下 讓自己感覺好一點 可悲</span><span class="push-right">183F 03/19 16:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LCHEN/push?y=14" target="_blank">LCHEN</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">184F 03/19 16:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blackchc/push?y=14" target="_blank">blackchc</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 支那人的高潮</span><span class="push-right">185F 03/19 16:31</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ypurple/push?y=14" target="_blank">ypurple</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推XD</span><span class="push-right">186F 03/19 16:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/going2u/push?y=14" target="_blank">going2u</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸溜溜XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">187F 03/19 16:32</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/chuca/push?y=14" target="_blank">chuca</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">188F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/a2224488/push?y=14" target="_blank">a2224488</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸 XD</span><span class="push-right">189F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/poiu1234/push?y=14" target="_blank">poiu1234</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">190F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/IndianF4/push?y=14" target="_blank">IndianF4</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻</span><span class="push-right">191F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ownnina/push?y=14" target="_blank">ownnina</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推</span><span class="push-right">192F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/p10121987/push?y=14" target="_blank">p10121987</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸到翻了這個XDD</span><span class="push-right">193F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fatgey/push?y=14" target="_blank">fatgey</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">194F 03/19 16:33</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Ben0404/push?y=14" target="_blank">Ben0404</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這個好笑 水啦</span><span class="push-right">195F 03/19 16:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ikoyumi/push?y=14" target="_blank">ikoyumi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太犀利</span><span class="push-right">196F 03/19 16:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rickcoo/push?y=14" target="_blank">rickcoo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈</span><span class="push-right">197F 03/19 16:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Mist032/push?y=14" target="_blank">Mist032</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:頭腦清楚 不錯</span><span class="push-right">198F 03/19 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/BBBroflovski/push?y=14" target="_blank">BBBroflovski</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD</span><span class="push-right">199F 03/19 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/becca1120/push?y=14" target="_blank">becca1120</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">200F 03/19 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/llycky/push?y=14" target="_blank">llycky</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">201F 03/19 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wendy79/push?y=14" target="_blank">wendy79</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">202F 03/19 16:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lovepgo/push?y=14" target="_blank">lovepgo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">203F 03/19 16:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wahaha3396/push?y=14" target="_blank">wahaha3396</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:(  ̄□ ̄)/ 敬禮!! <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ )</span><span class="push-right">204F 03/19 16:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/fireken/push?y=14" target="_blank">fireken</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:只能推了</span><span class="push-right">205F 03/19 16:37</span></div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stts/push?y=14" target="_blank">stts</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:貼切XD</span><span class="push-right">207F 03/19 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bryant780417/push?y=14" target="_blank">bryant780417</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯阿</span><span class="push-right">208F 03/19 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ching620/push?y=14" target="_blank">ching620</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">209F 03/19 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shunchao/push?y=14" target="_blank">shunchao</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">210F 03/19 16:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/e1q3z9c7/push?y=14" target="_blank">e1q3z9c7</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真讚</span><span class="push-right">211F 03/19 16:39</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/elenar/push?y=14" target="_blank">elenar</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈</span><span class="push-right">212F 03/19 16:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sh9408162000/push?y=14" target="_blank">sh9408162000</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯!反正他們都已經閹很久了!!連痛是甚麼都不知道了</span><span class="push-right">213F 03/19 16:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wumacomsum/push?y=14" target="_blank">wumacomsum</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:</span><span class="push-right">214F 03/19 16:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/aker0357/push?y=14" target="_blank">aker0357</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:(  ̄□ ̄)/ 敬禮!! <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ )</span><span class="push-right">215F 03/19 16:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Bluebear/push?y=14" target="_blank">Bluebear</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">216F 03/19 16:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/bigjam/push?y=14" target="_blank">bigjam</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超酸 XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">217F 03/19 16:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/shinshong/push?y=14" target="_blank">shinshong</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">218F 03/19 16:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/nelso/push?y=14" target="_blank">nelso</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:本日最中肯</span><span class="push-right">219F 03/19 16:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/rengjean520/push?y=14" target="_blank">rengjean520</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯 等等補推xDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">220F 03/19 16:43</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/assidiot/push?y=14" target="_blank">assidiot</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:李公公表示:</span><span class="push-right">221F 03/19 16:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/j155221/push?y=14" target="_blank">j155221</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDD 超中肯</span><span class="push-right">222F 03/19 16:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/LiuGRS/push?y=14" target="_blank">LiuGRS</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:笑翻 必推</span><span class="push-right">223F 03/19 16:44</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dake/push?y=14" target="_blank">dake</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈哈哈哈!!</span><span class="push-right">224F 03/19 16:45</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/garcia/push?y=14" target="_blank">garcia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這串的精華就這篇了 其他不用看了</span><span class="push-right">225F 03/19 16:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MCdoggy/push?y=14" target="_blank">MCdoggy</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神來之筆</span><span class="push-right">226F 03/19 16:46</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jjaacckkyy63/push?y=14" target="_blank">jjaacckkyy63</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:高級酸民</span><span class="push-right">227F 03/19 16:47</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/amop/push?y=14" target="_blank">amop</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">228F 03/19 16:48</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/wsos08422/push?y=14" target="_blank">wsos08422</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻推</span><span class="push-right">229F 03/19 16:49</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/vvivv/push?y=14" target="_blank">vvivv</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">230F 03/19 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/blueisgood/push?y=14" target="_blank">blueisgood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:精闢推XDDD</span><span class="push-right">231F 03/19 16:51</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/derekhsu/push?y=14" target="_blank">derekhsu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:韓寒吧</span><span class="push-right">232F 03/19 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Cardern/push?y=14" target="_blank">Cardern</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中和一下啦 很酸欸</span><span class="push-right">233F 03/19 16:53</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tzou09/push?y=14" target="_blank">tzou09</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:沒擁有過~~ "民主"二字對大陸人而言~就只是想像</span><span class="push-right">234F 03/19 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/justice0926/push?y=14" target="_blank">justice0926</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:超酸 不過這就是中國人心態啦 自大 智障</span><span class="push-right">235F 03/19 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/dejaoha/push?y=14" target="_blank">dejaoha</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯</span><span class="push-right">236F 03/19 16:54</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hiphopper18/push?y=14" target="_blank">hiphopper18</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠邀 酸度破表了XDDDD</span><span class="push-right">237F 03/19 16:56</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Muzque/push?y=14" target="_blank">Muzque</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:猛</span><span class="push-right">238F 03/19 16:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/how20/push?y=14" target="_blank">how20</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推</span><span class="push-right">239F 03/19 16:58</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tactac38/push?y=14" target="_blank">tactac38</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這酸的狠到位XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">240F 03/19 16:59</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ASOgogo/push?y=14" target="_blank">ASOgogo</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:真實故事 持續上演</span><span class="push-right">241F 03/19 17:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/SmilingMan/push?y=14" target="_blank">SmilingMan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:死太監 死太賤</span><span class="push-right">242F 03/19 17:00</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/plumage1015/push?y=14" target="_blank">plumage1015</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推XDD</span><span class="push-right">243F 03/19 17:01</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/creamfish/push?y=14" target="_blank">creamfish</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推!!!!</span><span class="push-right">244F 03/19 17:02</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/murasakiahn/push?y=14" target="_blank">murasakiahn</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻XDDD</span><span class="push-right">245F 03/19 17:03</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/totogood/push?y=14" target="_blank">totogood</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:!!!</span><span class="push-right">246F 03/19 17:04</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Deesu/push?y=14" target="_blank">Deesu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:靠北 太貼切 這實在是太貼切了!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">247F 03/19 17:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/hsiuying/push?y=14" target="_blank">hsiuying</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:精闢</span><span class="push-right">248F 03/19 17:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sanguinesand/push?y=14" target="_blank">sanguinesand</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:哈哈 太中肯拉 XD</span><span class="push-right">249F 03/19 17:05</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/stes60111/push?y=14" target="_blank">stes60111</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDD</span><span class="push-right">250F 03/19 17:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/albert22/push?y=14" target="_blank">albert22</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太中肯拉</span><span class="push-right">251F 03/19 17:06</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/OOQ/push?y=14" target="_blank">OOQ</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:公公們的臉腫腫的</span><span class="push-right">252F 03/19 17:07</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/saiyumu/push?y=14" target="_blank">saiyumu</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:不推不行</span><span class="push-right">253F 03/19 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/guyguy2/push?y=14" target="_blank">guyguy2</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:+1</span><span class="push-right">254F 03/19 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/leeting090/push?y=14" target="_blank">leeting090</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯推!!!!!!</span><span class="push-right">255F 03/19 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/x19889918/push?y=14" target="_blank">x19889918</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯XD</span><span class="push-right">256F 03/19 17:08</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/g1409/push?y=14" target="_blank">g1409</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:優質酸文XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">257F 03/19 17:09</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/maybecry/push?y=14" target="_blank">maybecry</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:專業</span><span class="push-right">258F 03/19 17:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/feather9298/push?y=14" target="_blank">feather9298</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:推你了!!!</span><span class="push-right">259F 03/19 17:10</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/glad850/push?y=14" target="_blank">glad850</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:專業、清新、中肯!</span><span class="push-right">260F 03/19 17:12</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/k51686tw/push?y=14" target="_blank">k51686tw</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:太酸啦~~~酸度爆表!</span><span class="push-right">261F 03/19 17:13</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/WeiTitan/push?y=14" target="_blank">WeiTitan</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這作家還活著嘛==</span><span class="push-right">262F 03/19 17:14</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lepidoptera/push?y=14" target="_blank">lepidoptera</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD 靠北 這太經典</span><span class="push-right">263F 03/19 17:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Asucks/push?y=14" target="_blank">Asucks</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:中肯到爆炸</span><span class="push-right">264F 03/19 17:16</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kyhkyh/push?y=14" target="_blank">kyhkyh</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">265F 03/19 17:17</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/verna312/push?y=14" target="_blank">verna312</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">266F 03/19 17:18</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/iamten/push?y=14" target="_blank">iamten</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:神比喻</span><span class="push-right">267F 03/19 17:19</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/paytonH/push?y=14" target="_blank">paytonH</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸的超棒XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">268F 03/19 17:20</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/garcia/push?y=14" target="_blank">garcia</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:查了一下 應該是王朔講的 還沒被自殺</span><span class="push-right">269F 03/19 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/jimmyhero/push?y=14" target="_blank">jimmyhero</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">270F 03/19 17:23</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/mogli/push?y=14" target="_blank">mogli</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:說得好耶!</span><span class="push-right">271F 03/19 17:24</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/senior/push?y=14" target="_blank">senior</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">272F 03/19 17:25</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/MermaidFA/push?y=14" target="_blank">MermaidFA</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:有酸到XDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">273F 03/19 17:27</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/STi2011/push?y=14" target="_blank">STi2011</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">274F 03/19 17:28</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tokyoto/push?y=14" target="_blank">tokyoto</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:這就標準的吃不到葡萄說葡萄酸 幹不到女人說女人爛</span><span class="push-right">275F 03/19 17:30</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/depi/push?y=14" target="_blank">depi</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">276F 03/19 17:34</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/ingrind/push?y=14" target="_blank">ingrind</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XD</span><span class="push-right">277F 03/19 17:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/plusonezero/push?y=14" target="_blank">plusonezero</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:XDDDDDD</span><span class="push-right">278F 03/19 17:38</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/tomwhite/push?y=14" target="_blank">tomwhite</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:酸度滿點</span><span class="push-right">279F 03/19 17:40</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/girlabc90/push?y=14" target="_blank">girlabc90</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: </span><span class="push-right">280F 03/19 17:41</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Sumino/push?y=14" target="_blank">Sumino</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:戰鬥力超強</span><span class="push-right">281F 03/19 17:42</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/kmoqwe/push?y=14" target="_blank">kmoqwe</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">:借轉</span><span class="push-right">282F 03/19 17:45</span></div>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">ken123456</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈XD 因為被坦克車壓怕了</span>
讚 ski59436875:因為沒膽出來面對只好說別人民主很傻很天真,順便在砲一下台灣是中國的
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lunsea1617</span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯酸XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
讚 sanks:ㄊㄨㄟ
讚 goest101:中肯 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
→ <span style="color:#FF0">maw1250</span><span style="color:#808000">:太監的屌XDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">WhenWar4come</span><span style="color:#808000">:毛毛在中國殺了這麼多中國人,他們還能聽毛毛的話~~~哀~~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">max30390093</span><span style="color:#808000">:那隻殘體蝗蟲公公勒</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">max30390093</span><span style="color:#808000">:g8也想加入公公行列?</span>
讚 blackacb:哈哈,支那畜還真是搞笑阿
→ <span style="color:#FF0">algol0080</span><span style="color:#808000">:中共都說了啊~64沒死人哦~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">capno7</span><span style="color:#808000">:寧可相信世上有鬼,也不要相信"中國人"那張嘴!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">capno7</span><span style="color:#808000">:"紅色中國"的強大,都是建立在"中共"的那張"唬爛嘴"上。中國人因此也被"洗腦"了!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">capno7</span><span style="color:#808000">:現代的中國人,就是"中共奴",什麼權利都沒有,還幫"剝削者"說話,真好笑!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hihila</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bar2006</span><span style="color:#808000">:一針見血~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">et791211</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈借轉FB</span>
讚 yaptoyz:完全中肯啊!469的腦根本就是被洗壞了 無奈台灣有些人還是醒不來!!!
讚 king810825:推
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Freerunner</span><span style="color:#808000">:太監不就是g8也長不出來..g8茸還能剩幾根!?</span>
讚 p0916537:體諒他們怕被河蟹掉的言行
→ <span style="color:#FF0">TAT</span><span style="color:#808000">:[0w]那個只會用噗疵來掩蓋心虛的阿6,你想評論你們沒有的東西時,韓寒的這段話,應該在回味一下:[/][1y]每次在網上看到中國網友批評西方民主,他就像看到一群太監在講,你看,做愛多傷身啊,還會得病,還好我們早閹了。[/]</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:別介意,支那畜普遍低能,習慣就好,說不定他還會笑你,我們有霾可以吸,而且還是高濃度的,你們有嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hbbh5669</span><span style="color:#808000">:太監....只能推惹</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">d12345699</span><span style="color:#808000">:幫補出處 <a href="http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4937b6200102dycv.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4937b6200102dycv.html</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cgm23013</span><span style="color:#808000">:酸得不錯~</span>
讚 stu921052012:比喻的真好
→ <span style="color:#FF0">fuckmayingo</span><span style="color:#808000">:太中肯惹~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span>
讚 sunyen3m:哈哈哈^^
讚 nagame3148:酸到心坎裡
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yanyou</span><span style="color:#808000">:超酸wwwwwwwww</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">fuckkmt</span><span style="color:#808000">:一個奈米屌,跑到每個人懶叫都很大的地方,大喊:『我們懶叫都看不到,請不要強迫我們做愛!』</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">morning-sun</span><span style="color:#808000">:你們稀罕也沒用</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1y]任何制度都有利有弊、沒有真正完美的制度、封建也曾開創漢唐盛世、戒嚴也曾創造台灣經濟奇蹟、讓台灣錢淹腳目、在民主制度下也曾選出狂人希特勒,菲律賓貪汙總統馬可世、台灣的黑金教父、貪汙洗錢之子、這些人到現在還有不少死忠支持者</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1y]台灣本可以民主替代軍事、成為更有效武器、加速兩岸民間交流、進而影響大陸人民、加速大陸的民主進程、但是當民主已成民粹、或成為另一種文革、這樣的民主又有那些可以讓人學習?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">goddarn</span><span style="color:#808000">:回應樓上,又或者不要理中國,加速台灣追上歐美民主的進程,成為正常國家</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">goddarn</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以說中國民主關我屁事? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kevin608</span><span style="color:#808000">:神比喻</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1y]大陸民主化跟台灣有什麼關係?民進黨賴神在九合一大選大勝後、接受自家媒體專訪、賴神除了主張兩岸,應擱置政治主權爭議、加速兩岸交流、共同發展經濟、主權問題留给下一代處理、屆時大陸民主化已達一定程度、两岸統獨、也不會再是問題</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1G]其實民進黨賴神說的、就是1992年兩岸會談的内容。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:支那畜跟滯台支那畜繼續做牠們的大支那夢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:這個才是中國人民最愛的民主! 打到血流滿面!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oZix5m6F_qM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/oZix5m6F_qM</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/p1NTRaV80zs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/p1NTRaV80zs</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">APPA</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7N2ZYj4pQ3I" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/7N2ZYj4pQ3I</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nWX3iHgeXZ0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/nWX3iHgeXZ0</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">litchichang</span><span style="color:#808000">:太監:一滴精十滴血,看我們紅光滿面!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qazw73613</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到跳針王又出來瞜~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">dispgogogo</span><span style="color:#808000">:最好笑是"被迫"割了老二,還想當菜戶!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">papa5354</span><span style="color:#808000">:神譬喻</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">playr4</span><span style="color:#808000">:神比喻</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">goddarn</span><span style="color:#808000">:跳針王現在不只是跳針,開始捏造事實了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">goddarn</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也是醉了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ct712a</span><span style="color:#808000">:毛澤東:中國人民站~起來了!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ct712a</span><span style="color:#808000">:中國網民:還好我們早閹了~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">JCB88</span><span style="color:#808000">:推~XD</span>
讚 tw1208tw0780:神比喻
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:你既然說沒有任何制度是完美的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:卻又片面地說台灣的民主是民粹不值得學習?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:你去對照歐美澳等國家的民主運動是怎樣進行的好嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:先講一句好聽話自以為冠冕堂皇</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:卻又全面否定其他國家的民主化歷程</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:"自己",我再說一次</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:"自己"先去把講的話定義清楚再來批評別人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hank19900306</span><span style="color:#808000">:不要隨便拿你的第二段話就打臉你第一段話,OK?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ggcow</span><span style="color:#808000">:426嘴巴說不要,身體都是很誠實的…官二代富二代移居國外不是一股風潮嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jay3u7218</span><span style="color:#808000">:你這樣講9.2會崩潰的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sasimi1327</span><span style="color:#808000">:你講得太中肯,426的臉好腫</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackal197920</span><span style="color:#808000">:每次IPHONE推出新機,嘴上罵得要死</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackal197920</span><span style="color:#808000">:結果水貨價錢卻炒到翻好幾倍</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackal197920</span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道那些賣去中國的蘋果手機都是誰在買</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">huzc0606</span><span style="color:#808000">:記得有一個中國人因為出了反美的書爆紅,但後來被起底他在美國有房子,還在那居住~ ~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a0987789369</span><span style="color:#808000">:就是口嫌體正直 哈哈支那賤畜哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tccwang</span><span style="color:#808000">:[img=556x474]<a href="http://imgur.com/YDnGnEY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/YDnGnEY.jpg</a>[/img]</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">laguna0844</span><span style="color:#808000">:槓 426一直都很民主好嗎 到處隨地大小便這就是民主自由的表現 你有看到學生佔領立法院就亂大小便嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lhy2410</span><span style="color:#808000">:雞都有愛國的,太監也可以被肛的⋯⋯</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Shineway0040</span><span style="color:#808000">:被鳥籠關久的鳥</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Shineway0040</span><span style="color:#808000">:都會覺得自由的鳥有病!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">eleoyu</span><span style="color:#808000">:超級酸地!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">airman72150</span><span style="color:#808000">:. 中國皇帝洗腦他們百姓,中國地方大人素質低,實施民主就會天下大亂,所以他們中國人就相信了,這些人就寧願永遠當太監,寧願沒LP就怕沒飯吃強。 .</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zerou86</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實台灣人耍奴也很厲害啊~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qq12355q</span><span style="color:#808000">:這根本神回應阿!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qq12355q</span><span style="color:#808000">:ptdcola-4 03-20 16:34 這真的有病阿-.-</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qq12355q</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣為何一定要帶動中國???根本不是自己人好嗎-.-一廂情願要到啥時候才能覺悟???</span>
瞎 saboo:要不然妳們問問新加坡人想不想要台灣的民主?廠廠
→ <span style="color:#FF0">DoubleV</span><span style="color:#808000">:就像看到一群太監在講,你看,做愛多傷身啊,還會得病,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">DoubleV</span><span style="color:#808000">:還好我們早閹了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blackacb</span><span style="color:#808000">:說真的,誰管你們支那要不要民主,我們台灣就是不想讓支那統治,支那畜吃屎去吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1y]換自已執政後馬上改口,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:綠綠民代對大陸官員示好[1p]:中國大陸是兄台灣是弟,兩岸一家親</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[/]民進黨會議,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:討論台灣對大陸民主化的策略</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1g]</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:會議主持人賴清德表示,會中達成結論,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:一個民主的中國可以提供一個更安全的台灣…</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣要有世界觀,才有辦法協助中國大陸民主化。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:賴也說,希望中國國家主席習近平能夠成為中國的民主先生</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1p]賴清德也提到,中國一定會走向民主,但請大家給對岸時間。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1y]其實,說的內容,剛好與92兩岸會談[1r](當時被民進黨稱為終極統一)[/]會議內容,協助中國大陸加速民主化,不謀而合!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:不過民進黨是在20多年後,才醒來覺悟…</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptdcola</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1g]但自家台獨綠綠鄉民,何時才能覺悟???</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lolki</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本上呢......類似的支那網軍不求贏, 他們只要"低身下氣"的不斷的洗腦, 被罵, 好被同情心, 來吸收更多的親共人, 就好了.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lolki</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以像是ptdcola跟dispgogogo的426根本不痛不癢, 他只要臉皮夠厚, 就是一條好狗!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yhnmju</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒得選 卻自豪 支那畜牲名不虛傳</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Testo</span><span style="color:#808000">:閹貓閹狗比較長壽活比較久倒是真的....哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Testo</span><span style="color:#808000">:大概是自然界定律....既然無法繁殖下一代...這一代就活久一點</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ryan2015</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1p]習;不是我想,但中國人素質低,也只能帝制了。[/]</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chingchao</span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄏㄏ神喻</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">horizon1228</span><span style="color:#808000">:拖下去再閹~~~~~~~~!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">littleice</span><span style="color:#808000">:還說美國縱慾過度~</span></div></pre>
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[爆卦] 寶島全世界,鄭弘儀專訪汪潔民 逐字稿
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8gGp
2014-11-11T23:19:56+08:00
2014-11-12T13:51:55+08:00
前陣子看到鄉民介紹這集《寶島全世界》的廣播節目
http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1415241458.A.6FB.html 聽完發現內容的確很有趣
[爆卦] 寶島全世界-鄭弘儀訪問財經專家汪潔民 - 看板 Gossiping - 批踢踢實業坊
紅姨 : 汪潔民是個有趣的人 因為他有投兩次馬英九的經驗
財經專家汪潔民除了提到自己的深藍背景、兩度投給馬英九總統後的心態轉變、上節目
講的內容其實是有所本的、談台灣近幾年對中國簽的協議、談選舉的台商因素,最後他還
大聲地講說他支持…。
想到 PTT最近有不少成功說服(親友投柯P),也有努力中,以及「已失敗」的例子。透
過汪潔民的內心剖析,不難發現,中國國民黨對於一些民眾來說真的是信仰(所以大家也
不要太灰心,給對方一些時間與空間...XD);不過當環境、視野轉換以後,也可以出現
不同的看法。或許,當資訊更透明、人生多些歷練的情況下,我們的身邊也會多出更多像
汪潔民的親友(大家繼續努力!)。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXRBcocur0 (第一部份)
寶島全世 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> umin (Turn!Turn!Turn!)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [爆卦] 寶島全世界,鄭弘儀專訪汪潔民 逐字稿<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Nov 11 23:19:56 2014</div><hr color="#008080" />
前陣子看到鄉民介紹這集《寶島全世界》的廣播節目
<a href="http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1415241458.A.6FB.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1415241458.A.6FB.html</a> 聽完發現內容的確很有趣
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1415241458.A.6FB.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>[爆卦] 寶島全世界-鄭弘儀訪問財經專家汪潔民 - 看板 Gossiping - 批踢踢實業坊</strong></a>
紅姨 : 汪潔民是個有趣的人 因為他有投兩次馬英九的經驗 </div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">財經專家汪潔民除了提到自己的深藍背景、兩度投給馬英九總統後的心態轉變、上節目</span>
講的內容其實是有所本的、談台灣近幾年對中國簽的協議、談選舉的台商因素,最後他還
大聲地講說他支持…。
想到 PTT最近有不少成功說服(親友投柯P),也有努力中,以及「已失敗」的例子。透
<div class="ansi">過汪潔民的內心剖析,不難發現,<span class="fgW1 bgL">中國國民黨對於一些民眾來說真的是信仰</span>(所以大家也</div>
<div class="combine-lines">不要太灰心,給對方一些時間與空間...XD);<span style="color:#F0F000">不過當環境、視野轉換以後,也可以出現</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">不同的看法。或許,當資訊更透明、人生多些歷練的情況下,我們的身邊也會多出更多像</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">汪潔民的親友(大家繼續努力!)</span>。</div>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXRBcocur0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXRBcocur0</a> (第一部份)
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgXRBcocur0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>寶島全世界-鄭弘儀訪問財經專家汪潔民 ep1 - YouTube</strong></a></div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/jgXRBcocur0?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/jgXRBcocur0/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRDGGw-DX8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRDGGw-DX8</a> (第二部份)
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncRDGGw-DX8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>寶島全世界-鄭弘儀訪問財經專家汪潔民 ep2 - YouTube</strong></a></div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ncRDGGw-DX8?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/ncRDGGw-DX8/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKe87JkADkE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKe87JkADkE</a> (第三部份)
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKe87JkADkE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>寶島全世界-鄭弘儀訪問財經專家汪潔民 ep3 - YouTube</strong></a></div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/FKe87JkADkE?autohide=1&"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/FKe87JkADkE/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDQU-kKfik" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDQU-kKfik</a> (第四部份)
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDQU-kKfik" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>寶島全世界-鄭弘儀訪問財經專家汪潔民 ep4 - YouTube</strong></a></div></div>
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<span style="color:#FFF">相關影音檔為《寶島聯播網》所有,以下僅將相關訪談內容,整理成逐字稿</span>。
(括號內的「台」指台語)。
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgC">【第一部份】談成長環境、因環境差異產生的誤解、留美發現中國人與台灣人大不同。</span></div>
鄭弘儀:
<div class="combine-lines">大家好,大家好(台),大家晚安(台),我是鄭弘儀,歡迎收聽今天的寶島全世界(台
)。今天我們邀請到一位大家已經都很熟悉的朋友。他是新崛起的電視評論員,大家都講
<div class="combine-lines">名嘴,我實在是很不喜歡名嘴這個名詞,所以我都稱呼他/她們…其實英文叫做</div>
Commentator,其實就是評論員。他是誰呢?他是財經專家汪潔民,潔民你好。
</div>
汪潔民:
弘儀大哥好,各位聽眾大家好,我很高興今天來到我夢寐以求,跟弘儀大哥一對一。因為
我們過去時間都沒有辦法一對一,所以這麼有榮幸也祝大家聽眾投資愉快!生活美滿!
鄭弘儀:
<div class="combine-lines">這個,阿,潔民過去很多節目他是跟我並肩作戰(汪笑),很感謝他在節目當中幫我很多
忙。那這個也不能說…這個…汪潔民怎麼樣,汪潔民是靠實力起家,所以節目爭相邀約。
那今天為什麼要訪問汪潔民呢?因為汪潔民讓我發現他是一個有趣的人。為什麼?因為,
他說他有兩次投馬英九的經驗。(汪大笑)這句話阿,觸動我很多感受(汪大笑+鄭呵呵
笑)。我想這個人既然投過兩次馬英九,為什麼現在批判馬英九這麼厲害,這是我心中最
大的疑惑。今天的這個訪問會圍繞在這裡面。潔民可不可以先告訴我們,當初為什麼兩次
投馬英九?當時你對他有什麼樣的觀察?</div>
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">在還沒有講這之前喔,我其實有一個人,一個也是我們說的所謂的政治評論者。我跟他的
反差是最劇烈的,我也跟他道歉過,在弘儀大哥的節目當面對他道歉。雖然他並不知道我
曾經這麼討厭他,他的名字叫做陳立宏(汪笑)。</div>
鄭弘儀:
(笑)你很討厭陳立宏喔。
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">(大笑)我非常討厭(鄭大笑)。我在2000年到2008年之前,就是只要看到陳立宏我就覺
得要換台,因為他有上過很多節目喔,那每次我,而且…但是重點是雖然我很討厭他,換
台完還是忍不住要看他到底要罵什麼(鄭大笑)。他那時候罵國民黨是非常厲害、罵馬英
九,我想說馬英九是神耶,怎麼可以被罵?他人長那麼帥,而且他又是國民黨未來的菁英
隊,相對於當時民進黨執政,馬英九怎麼可以罵呢?何且那時候陳立宏在罵事情的時候,
他是擲地有聲而且是有證據的。那你知道,他越有證據罵的時候,你/妳就覺得這個人就
是造反。他要讓台灣這個獨立於他入之外(?),然後我覺得這個人就是很煩。那時候其
實,你也知道在金融業…</div>
鄭弘儀:
那你們家喜歡陳立宏嗎?
汪潔民:
我現在覺得看到他,是人生最愉悅的事情。(編按:我也聽成你比較喜歡陳立宏了?)
鄭弘儀:
不是,我是說你們家。
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">我們家,我們家,我爸爸是那個是退伍老兵,那後來是老師,又是在中油。那你知道喔,
在南部喔,左楠區,左是眷區,楠梓當然過了到這個後勁那邊當然就比較深綠;可是在楠
梓,也就是我們說中油那一塊,那邊大概有將近上萬的住民喔,那基本上是深藍的。對,
我們那個環境就是藍,因為中油…你/妳能去中油,基本上那個環境你/妳就不可能說是綠
的。因為我們是被保護很好的小圈圈,我舉個小例子:當時在民國八十年代到八十五年代
,那時候其實後勁是最嚴重的,不是有個阿嬤點蚊香嗎,又起火,有沒有(台)。我們在
我們的楠梓,就是我們的煉油廠的社區裡面,「阿那個是假的啦」。</div>
鄭弘儀:
阿,「製造出來的事件?」。
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">「製造出來,目的就是把中油關了,我們就沒有工作了啦!」那我們心裡就在想說,那奧
捏(???)阿如果楠梓加工(阿不是)中油如果搬過去,你們要靠什麼維生?當時是我
們先來,你/妳才來。你/妳發生任何一件事情,我們都認為那是後勁人的無理(鄭笑)。
<span style="color:#F0F000">後勁人都說,後勁的空氣很糟糕,那我也住在你/妳家隔壁阿,我沒有感覺很糟糕。後來</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">才知道是風向問題,因為半屏山的風正好把楠梓,也就是我們說中油的這個髒空氣吹到後</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">勁。</span></div>
<div class="combine-lines">所以我們自己沒有感受,那他/她們說那個水很噁心,有汽油味;可是我們打開水,其實
我跟各位報告吼,我們家鄉的水呢,是直接從,因為它是要 for中油使用,所以它的水是
直接從南化,就是台南的那個蓄水水庫,是好的水,直接抽水過來。所以我們的水是非常
好喝,是有甘甜的味道,泡茶最好。所以我們就不覺得「阿這個後勁一定是騙人der la」
,我們打開水都是那麼好喝,對不對,所以,而且我們有游泳池、有高爾夫球場。還有講
完之後可能會有人打我(汪邊講邊笑),還有保齡球館。</div>
鄭弘儀:
你/妳們都可以用喔?
汪潔民:
對對,我們都可以用,我們是眷屬。
鄭弘儀:
中油的眷屬?
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">嘿對,我們有半屏山公園,它可以釣魚,所以我們活在一個就是阿,就是說,跟別人世界
不一樣的。甚至說,我到高中我才會坐公車。那為什麼我到高中才會坐公車呢?因為(鄭
:中油有交通車)中油有交通工具,對(鄭笑)。譬如說我要去百貨公司,它就有一站在
百貨公司旁邊,它有上車時間跟下車時間。(鄭:要錢嗎?)ㄟ,不用錢,我們是眷屬(
鄭笑)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">對對對對對,當然後來,因為就是中油有被比較多的這個限制,有些就開始要付錢,但那
個金額是非常少的,幾乎就是不用錢的意思,就是意思意思。所以我們活在那個環境裡面
,我們就覺得國民黨就是神,支持神,我們的生活就會很開心。對,所以我們這樣講,台
北有天龍國,對不對,那中油就是天龍國的南部支部。所以那時候看到陳立宏在罵國民黨
的時候,我們就在心裡想說,「怎麼會這樣呢?」就我們的生活環境,那後來我又在金融
業嘛…</div>
鄭弘儀:
我是說你爸爸呢,爸爸怎麼看陳立宏?
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">我爸爸,其實基本上他是,他是對陳立宏是,完全不能接受,怎麼會有人這樣說這些話。
他只是很單純,就一個「就是他在上面罵,我爸爸在下面罵」那種(鄭大笑),可是很奇
怪的事情是,我看到想翻台,我爸爸會留下來看,看他罵什麼?當做材料來反擊這個民進
黨的陰謀。</div>
鄭弘儀:
喔~所以陳立宏的收視率不要以為是都是贊成他的(大笑)。
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">沒有,沒有,其實我這樣說。真正是越討厭的越想聽他到底在幹譙什麼東西?然後當作素
材,然後當這個國民黨的這些所謂黨工在聚集的時候就一起幹譙陳立宏。(鄭:他/她們
想看看那個象嘴裡面吐出什麼狗牙)(兩人笑)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">所以你知道在那個環境裡面,我其實誤會他很久,所以現在我遇到陳立宏都說,他是1998
年開始開幹馬英九,所以我說「你是1998年的先知,鍾年晃是2008年的先知」,那我現在
因為受到鄭大哥的薰陶,慢慢地變成後知後覺(鄭大笑)。但是我覺得,我「知道」之後
就很生氣了,那為什麼會很生氣呢?</div>
鄭弘儀:
對不起,我再問一下,那你剛剛講高雄是你的家鄉。那爸爸是哪裡人?
汪潔民:
我爸爸是安徽人。(鄭:安徽)對(鄭:那媽媽呢?),媽媽是台南人(鄭:喔台南郎喔
<div class="combine-lines">)對,可是我媽媽因為受到我爸爸的這個(鄭:影響?)影響(汪笑),所以她是非常
..她曾經在菜市場「一個對三個」對幹(鄭:真的阿,媽媽在菜市場跟人家對幹?)(
兩人笑),因為離開了就是中油的眷村吼,到外圍的環境,你/妳如果是往後勁的方向,
是深綠。那菜市場理面基本上是綠的(鄭:也是綠的,甘苦人阿)對,阿我媽媽是那種因
為跟我爸相處久了,所以耳濡目染,她也是那個強悍的深藍的支持者。(鄭:但是她會講
台語嗎?)她台語講得啾賀ㄟ啦(台,很好的意思)是我的台語很爛,我是不會講台語的
高雄人(台)(鄭:媽媽台南市嗎?)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">對,所以我到她們家鄉,像我阿嬤是,直接都是用台語跟我講的。我小時候台語比較好,
還有我去大陸工作時候台語比較好,台灣人家鄉去都用台語不想讓外地人阿陸仔知道(鄭
:所以媽媽也是深藍?)我媽是深藍的,被我爸爸(影響),我媽那時候有一次去菜市場
,回來就氣沖沖(台),我就問「媽妳在生氣什麼?」她說「去菜市場喔,真的(台),
全都在說民進黨好啦,臺灣獨立啦,臺灣獨立對他/她們有什麼好處啦?臺灣獨立就會賣
比較多的菜喔?」我媽就一個人開幹三個(兩人笑),回來再生氣,很生氣很生氣很生氣
。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">那你知道我們在那個環境裡面就覺得,「ㄟ對阿,臺灣就這樣好了,幹嘛要講台灣獨立呢
?」那我其實有一點點改變是出國啦,那但是出國那只是短時間,出國給我的感覺是我很
討厭大陸人,但是我還是覺得國民黨是我們的忠堅思考,然後支持國民黨,臺灣才能永續
經營,後來我1994年就到金融業...</div>
鄭弘儀:
你是去美國讀?
汪潔民:
對,我去美國紐澤西(鄭:紐澤西,在東北)對對對對對,那遇到一些北京來的阿陸仔,
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">就覺得是他/她們自私自利到受不了,就覺得這個大陸人不是我的...<span class="fgW1 bgP">第一個,我就覺得大</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">陸人不是我的,跟我們是不同的種族;但是受到家庭從小的影響,我們對藍還是很支持</span>,</div>
</div>
雖然我很討厭阿陸仔。(鄭:為什麼,為什麼當初在美國留學討厭他/她們)喔,講完吼
可能要用一集來說(鄭大笑)。
<div class="combine-lines">對不起,我只只簡單講兩個故事就好了,我去上一堂課,那堂課是跟經濟有關的課,因為
我修很多經濟學的課。那那個老師他/她是一個希臘腔很重的老師,我同班有兩個來自北
京的,那個年代能出國留學,基本上,應該是高幹。那他/她們兩個人,一男一女,他/她
們在下課的時候,講話講得很厲害,一直講一直講,喔,他/她們就一直講話講得很厲害
嘛。可是這個女生的英文不是普通的爛,是很爛,老師點名呢她都沒有答"Yo",那我們老
師有紀錄,甚至要考試呢她也不知道。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">有一天我就受不了,我們台灣人反正就很熱情嘛吼,我跟那個北京女生不熟,那個北京男
生常常坐我旁邊,我就跟那個北京的男生說,「老師點名她都沒有答喔,老師都有紀錄。
明天要考試,可能要跟她講一下」我們好心的這麼說嘛,這台灣人應該很(常)有的習慣
。你知道這北京人怎麼說?「阿,Jimmy阿,如果您跟她這麼熟,您跟她講就罷了,跟我
說幹嘛呢?您這麼熱情,跟她說就好啦。」我心裡想說:「ㄟ你們下課的時候講話講那麼
厲害,轉這句話應該 OK吧!」他竟然回答說:「你這麼熱情你跟她講就好了」。我心裡
想說這是什麼樣的...</div>
<div class="combine-lines">(鄭:對阿那你怎麼不直接跟她說)我跟那個北京女生不熟,我就好心好意的...當然後
來我有還是有...因為我跟我太太同班,我叫我太太跟那個北京的女生說,明天要考試要
準備。那個女生當然很客氣說:「謝謝,謝謝~您臺灣...」(鄭:您應該把她追起來當
太太的)不,我跟我太太去,對對對,所以可能就沒有這個機會(兩人大笑)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">好,第二個是這樣,第二個是這樣。那時候其實臺灣人很厲害的事情就是,我們都有考古
題。這是真的,所以我的分數很高其實要謝謝臺灣人幫助我們,我們幾乎去哪堂課都一定
有考古題。那這個北京人呢,他/她們也知道我們有考古題,那一般我們去跟人家要考古
題會怎麼要?「ㄟ,潔民你那個我們要修什麼課吼,這樣好不好,請你吃個飯,那考古題
可不可以 Copy一份吼?讓我們大家一起 Share好不好?」我們會這樣講,或者是說:「
ㄟ你有沒有那個什麼考古題阿?幫個忙,念得很辛苦」會覺得是這樣,你知道北京人怎麼
說?「ㄟ你那個考試那個考古題 Co一份給我吧!ㄟ你們台灣人都有那個考古題,就拿一
份來看看吧!」我心裡想說:「為什麼要給你/妳~」(鄭:就沒有好話就對了)對阿就
是,很直接就是,就是好像你給他/她東西是應該的,好像不給是不應該的。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">我心裡想說「cow邀」(對不起)(兩人笑),我想說這什麼鬼阿~那時候就很納悶我就
說「沒有沒有,這堂課我不熟,我沒那個考古題。」(鄭:該有的禮貌這種事情沒有)他
/她們沒有,對,更不用說後來陸陸續續發生一些跟大陸人發生的一些摩擦,就覺得這個
不是我的種族。(鄭:喔,真的喔)對(鄭:你是去美國才發現)對,<span style="color:#F0F000">去美國才發現到這</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">個大陸人跟台灣人是完全不同,大陸人跟台灣人是不同的怎族(誤)種族,這件事一定要</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">記得(強調)!</span></div>
鄭弘儀:
但是你還是愛國民黨就對了?
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">對,因為因為,這是我們說我們從小你/妳被教育的東西,它其實是你/妳必須要大徹大悟
。才發現到一件事情,過去的信仰是錯的。(鄭:那你是國民黨員囉?)我不是,(鄭:
爸爸是?)我是新黨的(鄭:阿!+驚訝),曾經是(兩人大笑)OK,這理解囉,我曾經
是新黨黨員。我是19...1996年吧,1996年到2000年,那時候新黨最最厲害(鄭:最夯)
的時候。對,那時候(鄭:反李登輝)對,那時候,對,那時候,反李登輝。那我父親其
實非常反李登輝,他就反到那種就是,看到李登輝就生氣,就是氣沖沖(台)你知道老人
家生氣那個樣子你知道喔(鄭:反到骨子裡面去就對了?)真的,那個是…這樣講好了,
看陳立宏會看他幹譙什麼東西;但是看到李登輝是直接翻台(鄭:喔,不想看?)完全不
想看,就是不想看。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">所以那時候就,那你知道那時候新黨旺到什麼程度?高雄市喔,新黨是配票的,就是我爸
會跟我講說你/妳的身分證後一碼是什麼號碼,然後你/妳投誰。然後我們對那個人完全不
認識,也不知道他/她是什麼人,投票一定去投,而且就投那個人。(鄭:票夠到用配的
就對了?)對,是的,那時候的新黨是這個情況喔,(鄭:阿,那是因為1994年黃大洲、
趙少康還有陳水扁,選台北市市長的時候)是的(鄭:當時新黨的快速崛起,就是因為那
個趙少康的關係)真的,沒錯,所以那時候高雄跟台北是可以配票的。</div>
(鄭:嗯嗯嗯~)對,所以你就可以知道,我那個骨子裡是藍到不行喔(鄭:嘿~)真的
,就是你覺得你覺得就是怎麼會有民進黨這種這種黨?然後(鄭:亂黨),對,他/她們
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">,而且,<span class="fgW1 bgP">尤其是美麗島事件是兩個版本嘛,那我們得到的版本一定是國民黨的版本嘛。所</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">以我們就想說「厚~他/她們怎麼可以那麼壞,拿鐵釘去打警察?」後來知道根本事實是</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">(鄭:先鎮後暴啦)對對對,事實跟我們想像的不一樣。</span></div>
</div>
鄭弘儀:
<div class="combine-lines">了解,我們現在訪問的是汪潔民,聽他的故事其實很有趣。人就是要經歷過很多事件,或
者是阿…人生長了一些智慧跟觀察以後,態度就會有所不同。我是說他跟我講說,他投兩
次馬英九,那他現在很懊悔,那他現在呢,批判馬英九也批判的很厲害。那只是想說,他
到底發現了什麼事情?為了什麼會有這麼重大的轉變?等一下我們繼續回來,好不好,先
休息進廣告。</div>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgC">【第二部份】續談生長環境、同學協助找 MG149資料、同學提供美國券商的從業規則、聊</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#008080">太太與太太娘家。</span></div>
</div>
鄭弘儀:
<div class="combine-lines">歡迎繼續收聽寶島全世界(台),我是鄭弘儀。我們今天邀請到汪潔民,就是現在非常知
名的電視評論員,他也是財經專家。那麼,這個…就是想談談潔民,他為什麼有這麼重大
的轉變,剛剛講其實爸爸是安徽人,那麼老兵來到台灣,做過老師,後來進入中油,他在
中油什麼單位服務阿?</div>
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">就是中油的附設的國中,我們叫做國光國中(鄭:還是在國中教書就對啦?)對對對,所
以所以他就在裡面,因為那時候早期公立學校的薪水不好;但私立學校的薪水很好。那那
時候他本來是在公立的學校教書,那因為養了四個小孩子負擔蠻重的,那時候國光國中就
是需要招聘老師(鄭:國光應該是建教合作嘛?)現在已經是歸屬到中山大學了,那早期
(鄭:我是說早期阿,他應該是不是建教合作?)早期阿,我們不是建教合作,我們從其
實...我們這樣子講好了,我們是從幼稚園,叫工中(?),然後到了小學叫油廠國小,
到了國中叫國光國中,到了高中叫國光高中,所以我們所有的小朋友們,就從幼稚園,就
是那邊的小朋友們(鄭:就全部中油員工的小孩子喔),我們是從幼稚園一直認識到高中
,所以很可能我的姐姐是某個人的哥哥的太太,或著是我的哥哥跟某個人是同學。所以我
們的關係是非常緊密在一起的。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">我舉個簡單的例子,當時我在電視上罵中油,說這個福利獎金不好,我才一下台就接到簡
訊了。我的同學就跟我說「汪潔民你不要忘了,你是哪裡生的,你是哪裡的子弟?」(兩
人笑)(鄭:你是中油的子弟!)對對對(鄭:你是喝中油長大的!)你是喝中油長...
你是吃中油的水,喝中油...(鄭:忘恩負義的傢伙!)對對對,差不多,對,就有人...
就..就會...(鄭:是同學喔?)同學阿,同學阿,我們同學關係很緊密的。因為我們都
是從幼稚園認識到高中,到現在都還有在聯繫。</div>
鄭弘儀:
那你接到這樣的簡訊怎麼反應?
汪潔民:
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">就笑一笑啦。<span class="fgW1 bgP">因為其實經過這幾年,我要很明確地跟,就是跟馬英九總統報告,我們這些</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">很支持藍的這些同學們,現在已經一半以上,已經不支持藍了,那甚至超過三分之二以上</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">對馬先生你真的很討厭了。</span>(鄭:你...你...你憑什麼這樣講,搞不好只有你在變阿?)</div>
</div>
因為我們在一起群組,已經慢慢地可以感受到同事(?)的氛圍。
我舉個簡單的例子喔,像最近不是發生 MG嗎?那為什麼 MG我在電視上的立場,會如此地
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">堅硬認為羅淑蕾是錯的?(鄭:MG149?)對,為什麼會這麼...<span class="fgW1 bgP">我的資料是來自台大醫院</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">,我的同學在台大醫院替我收集,所有 MG的資料給我</span>,所以他/她們給我最...而且甚至</div>
</div>
<div class="combine-lines">我一個同學,去訪問了幾個主任醫生,因為它每個部門都要主任醫師嘛,它每個主任醫師
都有一個 MG,<span style="color:#F0F000">他/她幫我訪問了各科室的 MG,所以我得到了最...最完全完整的資料,這</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">就可以清楚 MG跟羅淑蕾講的是完全不同的故事。</span>那我要說一句話,我們這些同學們,基
本上如果你/妳是一個來自藍的環境,那基本上應該是反...反對這個非藍的嘛;但是很奇
怪,我們同學幫我收集了這麼多的資料,甚至(鄭:看不下去)…</div>
甚至我有些同學,現在我們在講連勝文的時候,我有同學在美國念書的,他/她直接就給
我資料說,你繼續講連勝文執照問題,因為他/她們在美國的金融業,是由公司,就是一
群人幫你/妳報名去考試的。就是要...譬如說我是在摩根證券,摩根證券就會把新進人員
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">整批送進去報名,是由證券公司強制報名,考完試之後你/妳才能任職。<span class="fgW1 bgP">所以,絕大部分</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">在美國金融業的人,他/她一定要有證照,沒有證照的只有兩種可能,一種是律師,一種</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">就是他/她是一個特聘人員,比較具有特殊職務的</span>。<span style="color:#F0F000">要不然在證券商服務,不管你/妳是什</span></div>
</div>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">麼人,你/妳就有各相對應的證照合在一起。</span>所以才會給我這樣的資料的時候,我才決定
跟羅淑蕾對決的時候,我不要講 MG,因為她手上資料是,可能還有一些我不知道的資料
,雖然我資料很齊全;但是打了連勝文的證照這個事情,我百分之百有把握。</div>
鄭弘儀:
這事實上現在證明,審計部查了那麼久還是認為 MG149完全沒有問題。
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">是的,沒錯。所以我回來一件事情,我同學們其實態度都很大的改變,當然還是有少數幾
個,是比較,還是藍的;但是絕大部分,對於馬總統這幾年的這個...因為我們這樣講...
我們長大了,已經不住在中油了,事實上我120位高中同學,現在留在中油的大概只有十
幾個。其他人都已經散居在台灣各地,還很多在美國的。那有趣的是,越到美國的,他/
她們對於國民黨的這個,尤其是馬英九的作為,他/她們越不諒解。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">鄭弘儀:因為...這就是蔣友柏講的嘛,就是說喔,馬英九他/她們這批人去美國,並沒有
把民主素養民主觀念帶回來(汪:是的)。美國一個老牌民主國家,可能他/她們去了那
邊讀了碩士讀了博士,他/她們並沒有把它帶回來,內心還是威權。那我相信你內心是有
受到美國民主觀念的一些洗禮跟這個薰陶。(汪:主要是法治)那你這個,像你現在這樣
子大力地批判馬總統,爸爸媽媽他/她們會給你壓力嗎?</div>
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">其實我父母親已經都陸續過世了;但是我的兄長們,就是我的哥哥、還有我姐姐,其實還
是對於我這麼地批判馬英九,他/她們還是有所保留。那為什麼會這樣呢?因為我一個姐
姐是公務員,那我哥哥是在科技圈。那坦白跟大家報告,新竹地區的科技圈,像這次新竹
市的選舉就清楚了嘛,科技圈是非常藍的~(鄭:是喔)科技圈非常藍(鄭:為什麼?)
為什麼,其實我說不出什麼答案。我舉個簡單的例子,我太太就在科技圈上班,她其實很
不希望別人知道我是她老公(鄭大笑)是的,為什麼?她的她的老闆們,就是有時候我批
判的很過頭的時候,他/她會走進來跟我太太說句話說...曾經有個狀況是這樣,我太太非
常不開心,就是我前陣子就是因為跟羅淑蕾在 MG上面有些,就是對決嘛吼,那她一個同
階的主管就走到房間,那我太太的簡訊是跟我說,她把這個人給轟出去。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">因為主管都有自己的位子,她說她把他/她轟出去,她心裡非常不開心。那當然太太不開
心我們一定要想辦法去問,但是絕對不要當下問,因為當下問肯定就是會自找麻煩。所以
我就等了一段時間,讓她氣比較平復之後,才知道,原來這位同事衝進去臭罵我,那我太
太就說你/妳憑什麼到她的辦公室罵她的老公,然後她就說…就對那個同事很大聲的說「
你/妳給我出去!」。我想現在我太太是最大的反對者,因為她監看我在每個電視台的表
現,如果說我的表現...譬如說我舉個簡單的例子,像連勝文有提到就是這個控股公司嘛
,就是台北市控股公司。這個事情,我跟我太太就...因為我太太她是念財務的,我們就
有激烈的辯論,針對這個事情言語交鋒,兩人交鋒很久。像這次這個南僑化工的事情,她
也跟我言詞辯論交鋒,她就是要站在一個反對者的角度,來跟我辯論。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">那為什麼我太太變得很藍呢?對不起,也是受到我爸爸的影響(汪大笑,鄭:受到妳爸爸
嗎?)對,我們家,那個家族影響。因為她嫁到我這邊之後,她也受到我們這個...所以
你可以知道其實中油是一個多麼藍的地方,凡是,不論你/妳是用什麼方式進到這個環境
,你/妳就很自然。我太太的家人是深綠的(鄭:是嗎?),他/她們是高雄縣路竹鄉(鄭
笑),對,也就是我的...(鄭:本省人就對了?)本省人,那是講台語講的高雄...台灣
人。那我的丈人、還有我的…就是她大姐的先生吼、還有她二姐的先生吼全都是都是綠的
,而且深綠。所以我們吃飯有個規矩,就是回去不談政治,絕對不談。所以,他/她們還
會揶揄我,但是絕對不談政治。因為談政治會…就會有...這個...。</div>
鄭弘儀:
那現在丈人跟他的家人呢,對你?
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">還是深綠阿,很驕傲(兩人大笑)我的丈人超驕傲(強調)!平常老人家厚,他/她們都
會在廟裡,就是會聚在一起嘛,他/她們一定知道他的女婿姓汪,叫汪潔民(鄭大笑)。
他真的很驕傲,有一陣子我因為那個洪仲丘事件,我覺得那跟我有一點距離,所以我有一
段時間我是不上電視的,當然還是要感謝鄭弘儀鄭大哥,因為我那一段時間,就是去年六
月到九月的時候,我一段時間很常是不上電視的,那第一個給我通告的就是鄭大哥的挖挖
哇,新聞挖挖哇。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">而且它給我通告的那位小姐,很客氣的跟我說「汪大哥,我們這邊是新聞挖挖哇,請問你
有沒有空?」其實我心裡面想說「有空、有空」(兩人笑)(沒聽清楚)那邊沒什麼事幹
了」對,我又出現在挖挖哇了,然後後來就通告就又開始變多。那那段時間其實就就沒有
什麼出現在電視,對,所以其實這個這個過程裡面是要跟大家報告,其實蠻有趣這個轉折
點,那個時候我的丈人就..就很好奇(鄭:我的女婿汪潔民啦!(台))(汪:對),「
你怎麼好幾天沒有出現啦?」他就會問這個事情,表示很關心,那他為什麼會問呢?是因
為他的鄰居都「最近沒有看到你的女婿(台)」他就會很緊張,就問我這個問題。</div>
鄭弘儀:
好,我們現在訪問的是,阿這個電視評論員,現在很知名厚,汪潔民厚,他的轉變聽起來
也是蠻有趣。那其實裡面有很深的意義在裡面厚,我們休息一下,進廣告。
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgC">【第三部份】2012年以後的心態轉變、身為支持自由貿易者卻發現台灣對中國的約簽成這</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#008080">樣...</span></div>
</div>
鄭弘儀:
好,歡迎繼續收看寶島全世界(台),我們今天邀請的是汪潔民,潔民是...太太有改變
嗎?
汪潔民:
其實她現在還是就是很中立的角度來看待我所說的每一句話,那其實是轉變是在2009年以
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">後啦,因為,<span class="fgW1 bgP">2009年以前我們都是在資本市場嘛,每天滿腦子想的就是..就是金錢(鄭:</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">賺錢)...金錢的事情。所以,那你知道通常這種事,當你/妳開始專注在你/妳本業的時</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">候,其實你/妳很少去注意到周圍發生什麼事情。</span>你/妳注意到的事情是說這個市場有沒有</div>
</div>
什麼樣的變動?那2009年開始改變是因為我的投顧,因為原因我把它收掉了,那我就是做
一些轉投資到大陸,那比較多一點時間去觀察台灣的狀況。
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">那時候,其實最大的轉變是2011年,就是總統大選前後,那時候我們就發現到一個現況;</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">雖然我還是投馬英九,但是那時候的狀況是怎麼樣,我們對 ECFA是充滿著期待的,就是</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">說,兩岸應該有更多的交流。因為那時候我的公司也是在大陸,那為什麼到2012年以後就</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">突然之間整個態度改變很大?</span></div>
<span style="color:#F0F000"></span>
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">我有一次去這個電視台,就是準備要,也是一個知名的節目,那我隔壁是一個藍營的教授</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">。我坐下來之後,他/她第一句話是這樣跟我說:「厚,你罵馬英九罵得很厲害耶」我就</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">跟他/她說:「我為什麼不能罵他,我投給他耶」但是,我現在如果你再問我這個問題的</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">話,我的答案就不是這樣了。「這個總統真的把臺灣害慘了,所以誰都可以罵」,那為什</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">麼會有這樣子的轉變?其實我必須說明一件事,我念的是經濟,而且我是1992年到1994年</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">念經濟。</span></div>
<div class="combine-lines">這邊我先插播一則有趣的故事,前兩天,就大概前幾天,我兒子跑到我面前。我兒子23歲
了,他有他的想法,那我們溝通其實並不那麼多(鄭:大學畢業了?),大學畢業了,準
備當兵了。那因為兩年前選立法委員嘛,所以他是有投票權的,那他前幾天跑到我面前說
「爸,我可不可以問你一個問題?」我說「你問阿。」很難得父子之間可以有一些話題可
以談,因為通常我們都是「早安」、「晚安」、「吃飯沒」。那他就說「爸,我可以問你
一個問題?」,我說「好,你問。」,他說「當時你為什麼叫我投...」(因為我們是中
山區,立法委員是羅xx,可以講嗎?)「你為什麼叫我投羅淑蕾?」。我說「阿就投國民
黨就天經地義,你還想什麼?」那時候是羅淑蕾對簡余晏嘛,那當然我們就是很自然的投
票的行為就交(按:應為投)給羅淑蕾阿。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">然後他說:「爸,我真的很痛恨我當時的決定耶!」,我說:「對阿,我現在也很痛恨(
自己的決定)」(兩人大笑)。然後,接著第二句很妙,他說:「爸,那這次台北市的市
長選舉,你不會干擾我吧?」我說:「如果你當兵你可以回來投票,我當然不會干擾你。
」他說:「爸,那我這次絕對不投連勝文,可以嗎?」我說:「你的決定我尊重你阿,但
是我很好奇的是說,那你為什麼不投連勝文呢?」他說:「我為什麼要投連勝文?他那麼
有錢,他家裡又那麼好,重點他親共。我們最討厭就是大陸那些人捏,我們怎麼可以問我
們這些年輕人跟大陸在一起…(?)」然後講的就很生氣。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">你知道為什麼嗎?因為,太陽花那個時候吼,因為他受到我影響,其實他對政治是很冷漠
的。那時候他要準備出國考試嘛,所以他每天都在補習阿,所以太陽花都沒有參與。那他
有一次臉書上面喔,他同學問他在什麼地方?那時候是所有大學生參與那個太陽花最劇烈
的時候,就是要去旁邊靜坐嘛喔。那我兒子只回一句話說:「在家準備功課。」(汪停頓
)對不起我停頓了幾秒鐘,因為這是我兒子的態度。(鄭:國家這麼重大的事)他被洗版
,就是,他的臉書下面就開始罵他,一堆人罵他說...就講很多,講很多話(鄭:你怎麼
這麼冷漠之類的)對對對,然後他就覺得發生什麼事情了?他就打電話給他媽媽說,雖然
我跟他住在一起,但是,這個事情他還是問他媽媽說:「媽,到底太陽花發生什麼事情?
」</div>
你很難想像,還是有這樣不知道事情的人,我媽就稍微(誤),他媽媽就稍微解釋一下說
。「喔這樣不行耶,怎麼可以五秒鐘決定跟大陸這個就直接服貿協定,不行!」所以他也
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">跑去靜坐了兩天,(鄭:是喔,他也有去喔?)對,他也去了。<span class="fgW1 bgP">那從那時候開始,他突然</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">發現到「哇!台灣跟大陸已經到這個程度」他慢慢了解事情並不是這樣,這就是為什麼這</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">一次,百分之六十到七十的年輕人反連勝文的原因,(鄭:嗯嗯嗯)因為太陽花覺醒了。</span></div>
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<div class="combine-lines">可是這裡有個小插曲,就是,我們家是基督徒的,那我兒子跟我的哥哥是同個教會,然後
那一次他去教會去做禮拜的時候,我哥哥逮到我兒子,當面訓斥將近一個小時(兩人笑)
,一直猛罵太陽花。但是我們兒子教養的還蠻好的,跟連勝文一樣就是還蠻禮貌,就站在
那邊被我哥哥罵一個小時;但是他也學會一句話,因為他跟我相處知道說,這時候「不說
話是最好的方式」,他就被我哥哥念了一個小時。好,所以其實還是有所謂的深藍。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">那我就回來講到馬英九,我是1992年到1994年在美國唸書,當時美國在執行什麼?「北美
自由貿易區」(鄭:對)我兩個經濟...(鄭:NAFTA)對,我兩個經濟學教授他/她們都
是支持北美...你/妳們很難想像,其實當時在美國也有兩個學派,一個是支持的經濟學家
,一個是不支持的學家。他/她們在彼此在這個口誅筆伐的時候,是「刀刀見骨」。他/她
們其實在辯論的那個狀況是非常激烈(強調),有一點點跟藍綠對決是一樣的,就是,就
像現在其實鴿派的聯準局官員,跟鷹派聯準局官員這些利率政策,他/她們也是各持己進
(見),互不相讓,說。那我的老師們就在批判那個反自由貿易的這些人,他/她們的言
語也是很激烈的。就是,你/妳可以想像在美國他/她們針對一個政策的時候,他/她們可
以盡情地發表意見到這個程度喔。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">那當然,我...我我我..接受這樣的一個所謂自由貿易的一個證據。後來事後證明美國自
由貿易的...就是 NAFTA是真的讓美國從1994年,道瓊是從四千點漲到一萬兩千點,加拿
大跟墨西哥,尤其墨西哥幾乎漲了十倍,加拿大也因此復興。所以我們得到一個,<span style="color:#FFF">就是你</span>
/妳如果是一個正確簽法的自由貿易是互利的,所以當時蔡英文跟馬英九在對決的時候,
我就覺得蔡英文的論點是不對的;<span style="color:#F0F000">但是我後來才知道,一樣的自由貿易,要看你/妳怎麼</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">簽?你/妳也可以簽的非常的爛(加重語氣),它叫做自由貿易。</span></div>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi">而且後來發現到一件事,<span class="fgW1 bgP">我們事實上應該有一個充份的辯論,讓自由...反對的跟支持的</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">有非常強烈的辯論</span>,當然很可惜,因為蔡英文是念法律的,她可能,她智囊團沒有提供她</div>
</div>
足夠的意見;<span style="color:#FFF">而我又是支持自由貿易者。所以,那時候就覺得,自由貿易區是對的,後來</span>
我們發現到那個條文,我只能用四個字在這邊形容,<span style="color:#F0F000">「毛骨悚然」。怎麼會有一個自由貿</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">易簽到幾乎你/妳的...你/妳的產業要整個外移?你/妳的資金...你/妳知道嗎?那三年我</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">們脫離台灣到大陸的錢,竟然高達一兆兩千億台幣,在三年之內全部進到中國欸(語氣加</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">強),這一兆兩千億的金額是陳水扁任內的三分之二欸(註:陳前總統共做過兩任,共八</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">年的總統),甚至接近四分之三</span>,<span style="color:#FFF">你/妳很難想像這個約會簽成這副德性(語氣加強)。</span>
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="" data-width="0" data-height="0"><div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgP">而重點的事情是,當這個錢簽到中國大陸的時候,中國大陸(的態度)一百八十度改變(</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">語調拉長),本來給我們很多的這個所謂的稅務的優惠;突然之間要求我們的這些,所謂</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">的台商要繳他/她們的「四個保險,一個退休金」。</span></div>
</div>
鄭弘儀:
<div class="combine-lines">潔民,那我可不可以問你,你是一個財經專家,那你現在看到的是你投馬英九,給他兩次
的機會跟期待;可是他沒有做好,所以你現在批判他,那是指在經濟上。那在意識型態上
、政治上,你是傾向中華民國?還是這個臺灣獨立呢?</div>
汪潔民:
<div class="ansi_group" data-img="/img/ansi/8/8402e25c81e3ce5a6a85af6546c070b1522.png" data-width="780" data-height="80"><div class="ansi">好,這是非常好的問題。如果...所以前陣子有個討論說喔,<span class="fgW1 bgP">到底台商回來投票,真的會</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">投藍嗎?其實我覺得你/妳要看,你/妳要看,你/妳(他/她)的年紀喔</span>。如果說比較年長</div>
<div class="ansi">的,譬如說是...五六十歲、六十歲以上可能他/她們會投藍;<span class="fgW1 bgP">但是五十歲以下的,就不見</span></div>
<div class="ansi"><span style="background-color:#800080">得。(鄭:年輕人?)對,為什麼?因為去了大陸之後,會更討厭大陸。</span>(鄭:你去中國</div>
</div>
去多久?)我去了三年。(鄭:在那邊創業?)對,在那邊創業。
鄭弘儀:
那等下我們回來談一談,你在中國的經驗好不好(汪:喔,真的~)(鄭大笑)OK好來,
我們先休息一下,進廣告。
【第四部分】談國民黨、自身的中國經驗、台灣認同。
鄭弘儀:
<div class="combine-lines">好,歡迎繼續收聽寶島全世界(台),我是鄭弘儀,那這個...潔民,我們今天訪問的是
汪潔民,財經專家。潔民他說這個爸爸是安徽人(汪:對),家裡面是非常非常非常非常
深藍...(汪:是)所以你也深受影響,所以以前都投國民黨;那現你發現這個不是這麼
一回事?你對國民黨的印象是什麼?</div>
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">ㄜ,我應該這麼說。從小的印象對國民黨,它就是一個神。它讓台灣能夠經濟的成長、然
後所有的臺灣過去的每一分錢都能夠賺出來,是因為國民黨過去的經濟政策還有它的政權
施政...是...是...是正確的。<span style="color:#F0F000">那因為我生長的環境裡面,會產生「偏聽」</span>。<span style="color:#FFF">譬如說大家</span>
說國民黨會這個...就是會賄選,在那個年代,我們其實因為我們在深藍的環境,不會有
人拿任何一毛錢來我們這邊,我們就是乖乖投票。所以我們就覺得,怎麼可能有這種事情
,亂講的。所以...(鄭:沒有來買過票?)</div>
<div class="combine-lines">對,我從來沒有(被)買過票,我怎麼知道(有買票存在)...但是所以過程當中,臺灣
的經濟增長在我們認為,那加上我們因為「偏聽」,因為在那環境裡面,每個人的語言是
一樣的時候,他/她就會去判讀。(鄭:插個話好嗎,去買票,花那麼多錢買票,都買臺
灣人的)(台,應指買本省人的票)我不知道喔...(鄭:你懂嗎?+笑)我們就是,我們
不去...所以我們從來沒有被買過票。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">那有趣的事情,我搬離了中油,後來,因為就是中油的房子並不是我們的嘛。那我自己也
去外面買房子,那有趣的事情是,我買房子的時候,買票也跳過我,我就不懂,為什麼,
我的臉就是不能買票?(兩人笑)所以,那時候後來慢慢知道有買票,但是,要知道那個
<div class="combine-lines">已經,你/妳在你/妳被...我們被智慧養成(?)的過程當中...(鄭:來~最後三分鐘)
</div>
鄭弘儀:</div>
那你去中國投資三年,那你的感受是什麼?
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines">我...我應該這麼說,在中國大陸厚,其實它需要你/妳的時候,它賺錢像賺水一樣,這是
確定的。你很難想像,我們一場演講一天可以收一萬八千塊人民幣(鄭:厚!),六個小
時(鄭:厚!),我們公司收,那我們老師可以收六千人民幣。對,六千人民幣,在臺灣
你/妳上一整天你/妳大概收六千到一萬(鄭:台幣?),上課上課喔,當然演講不一樣,
演講的時候比較高。但一般上課的話,大概就是收六千到一萬塊台幣,那已經是很好的行
情了。(去中國演講)老師收六千塊人民幣,而且是這個吃住都是公司付,因為我們(公
司)收一萬八千塊(人民幣),當然現在完全沒有這種行情了。所以我們一堆臺灣的這個
所謂的老師都去那邊上課,日進斗金。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">那時候賺錢很容易,那我們的公司應該很賺錢阿?但我跟各位報告我這公司已經賣給大陸
公司了,為什麼呢?我直接這邊講沒關係,中國有六大銀行,「工農中建交招」,其中有
個叫做招商銀行,他/她們跟我們一年買了兩百萬人民幣的這個課程。那當然我們一定是
先付老師的錢嘛,付管銷嘛,還有為了他/她們要印製很多的講義。那兩百萬人民幣,折
合台幣一千萬是好生意對不對?</div>
招商銀行吼,這麼大的銀行,我們花了一年的錢,那你/妳可想而知(鄭:一年的時間才
把...),一年的時間,那可想而知我們做了幾千萬人民幣的生意,那我們的資金有多緊
?(鄭同意)緊到最後(鄭:因為你都先支出了),對,緊到最後,我的那位夥伴他/她
<div class="ansi">把車都賣了(鄭:為什麼錢這麼難拿?),<span class="fgW1 bgP">他/她們收款就是困難</span>,除非你/妳願意給一些</div>
..(鄭:紅包?)"Under"、"Under",或者你/妳在之前就先談好了。
<div class="combine-lines">這差很多,如果你/妳有給,對方會客氣,「我已經幫您追惹,您不用擔心,這個應該再
過幾天您就應該可以看到錢」;那你/妳沒給的時候,「別再打惹,我們檔案已經上去,
長官領導已經在批核惹,你/妳再打我電話也沒用阿。我已經幫你/妳追了,我很多事情」
(這電話就掛了)。</div>
<div class="ansi">那你知道那個,<span class="fgW1 bgP">我們跟基金公司合作,它直接是這樣...「人間蒸發」</span>,它那個本來跟我</div>
<div class="combine-lines">們的接口的那個業務,上完課之後...他/她就「人間蒸發」,我們怎麼找都找不到他/她
。有一天他/她又出現了,為什麼?因為銀行要我們上課,他/她才願意把上筆錢給清了,
再修上一堂課(?)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">鄭弘儀:其實我想吼,這個三年的經驗吼,要講一時也講不完(汪:對),那潔民剛剛這
樣講,就是說,<span style="color:#F0F000">其實我聽起來就是一個...一個結論就是,缺乏法治阿。(汪:完全沒有</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">法治的一個地區)對,就是說我想什麼時候想給你/妳阿,就怎麼樣,或者是你/妳送紅包</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">,我才有可能快一點吼。這種國家其實還蠻恐怖的(汪:是)</span>,所以你小時候會覺得你是
中國人嗎?</div>
汪潔民:
<div class="combine-lines"><span style="color:#F0F000">小時候認為自己是中國人,百分之百的中國人。(鄭:那...那現在呢?)我現在是台灣</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">人,我支持台灣獨立。(鄭大笑,鄭:真的假的?)真的(鄭大笑,鄭:支持臺灣獨立?</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">),我支持,我完全支持台灣是一個獨立的國家,不論它叫中華民國,或著叫台灣共和國</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">,它是一個獨立國家,它跟中國是完全血統...什麼都完全不一樣了。不要再說我們的書</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">跟我們的祖宗來自中國大陸,中國大陸早就已經拋棄我們之前所學的東西,兩個是完全不</span>
<span style="color:#F0F000">同的文化。</span>我我我...還有時間嗎?(鄭:沒有時間了)OK好(鄭大笑)。</div>
<div class="combine-lines">鄭弘儀:好,我們訪問的是汪潔民,不過這種事情就是這樣,就是說,你/妳真的是要去
感受,去美國感受、去中國感受(汪:法治...對)...之後,你/妳可能才會有發現啦,
這又不是什麼壞事情(汪:對),所以臺灣也是要有信心(台)(汪:對)。潔民謝謝你
喔(汪:謝謝),聽聽你的故事,真精采!(汪笑)好聽!改天有有機會再來好不好?(
汪:好,謝謝...謝謝...謝謝弘儀大哥)好,我們今天進行到這邊,明天同一時間再見,
掰掰!</div>
<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgC">【後記】</span></div>
汪潔民的例子讓人想到前一陣子網路瘋傳,<span style="color:#FFF">鄉民協助長輩擺脫傳統媒體的故事</span>,一但「跨
出那一步」,就回不去了。
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這段期間以來,許多人都遇到一個情況 那就是家中的父母,不會用智慧型手機、電腦 </div></div> </div>
距離11/29投票日,剩不到20天,或許你/妳可以採用這篇文章<span style="color:#FFF">文末的後三項建議</span>(第一項
台北調已無法預定,只剩11/15北平東路演唱會現場捐款的100組)
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<a href="http://kptaipei.tw/kp-ton/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://kptaipei.tw/kp-ton/</a> 見柯P官網,台北調的說明
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<span style="color:#FFF">或將汪潔民的故事分享給您的親友(再藍也不會比潔民還藍),<span style="color:#FFF">什麼話也不用多說,看看</span></span>
會不會有什麼不一樣的發展(主要還是要靠對方自己「想通」)。
這篇,同樣說的是<span style="color:#FFF">「理解」</span>。
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<a href="https://disp.cc/b/570-8cvu" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div class="img" data-ori_w="200" data-ori_h="180" style="width:200px;height:180px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i3.disp.cc/t/s/i.disp.cc/disp_displogo200.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> -- 以下文長,不喜勿入 -- : 這句話下得很精準 但私以為有部分的人對於KMT的堅定不移倒比較像是信仰 難以用上智下愚來概括之 誠然在我們眼中看來扭曲 但若這是一種無法割捨的核心價值 他們就是這樣活著 我也只能祝他們未來也能活得愉快 謝謝兩位的指教 ba ...</div></div> </div>
也不要只聚焦於所謂的深藍,<span style="color:#FFF">對於地方有長輩著重於「小面子小恩惠」的部份,我們也可</span>
以好好溝通一番。
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<div class="ansi"><span class="fgW1 bgC">【補充】</span></div>
<span style="color:#F0F000">柯P政見一覽</span> <a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1414339689.A.B22.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1414339689.A.B22.html</a>
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------------------------------------ 懶人包網頁版: QRcode 柯P新政自動播放清單: 柯文哲官網: </div></div> </div>
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<span style="color:#F0F000">連柯政見比較</span> <a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PublicIssue/M.1412868050.A.1C6.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PublicIssue/M.1412868050.A.1C6.html</a>
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八月十五八卦版有一篇整理的 因為兩人後來又出了不少政見,所以我做個補充 如果有誤煩請各位提出 </div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">我們只需要一個正常人來當台北市長</span>
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這是柯P野生官網、學運時期4am英文網站設計師even wu所寫, 原來,他一開始只是不爽連D才跟柯P合作... 文長慎入 </div></div> </div>
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<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/Gavina/push?y=14" target="_blank">Gavina</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推一個 覺醒的中立選民</span><span class="push-right">14F 11/11 23:35</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#F00000">→ <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/gg889g8/push?y=14" target="_blank">gg889g8</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 立宏 你貢跨賣</span><span class="push-right">15F 11/11 23:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/lingz1024/push?y=14" target="_blank">lingz1024</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 不錯噢 滿精彩的</span><span class="push-right">16F 11/11 23:36</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/sharkimage/push?y=14" target="_blank">sharkimage</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推</span><span class="push-right">17F 11/11 23:37</span></div>
<div class="push_row"><span style="color:#FFF">推 <span class="ptt-push-author"><a href="/ptt/user/unclehsien/push?y=14" target="_blank">unclehsien</a></span></span><span class="ptt-push-content">: 推潔民~~</span><span class="push-right">18F 11/11 23:39</span></div>
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讚 yldl:推
讚 mercy:超用心
→ <span style="color:#FF0">csabc009</span><span style="color:#808000">:恭喜他覺醒了...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">free_man</span><span style="color:#808000">:一個自己人檢討就要擔心被清算的法西斯集團...還這麼多人挺,真的是民智未開到極點。</span></div></pre>
dragon-magic
拜託大家去支持一下吧.....
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8gIh
2014-11-12T02:59:03+08:00
2014-11-12T02:59:03+08:00
針對頂新事件,身為居住台灣的一份子,是否可以對製作黑心食品的企業提出謀害告訴呢?
https://www.facebook.com/AD20141024?fref=nf ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dragon-magic (路人甲)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 拜託大家去支持一下吧.....<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月12日 Wed. AM 02:59:03</div><hr color="#008080" />
針對頂新事件,身為居住台灣的一份子,是否可以對製作黑心食品的企業提出謀害告訴呢?
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/AD20141024?fref=nf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/AD20141024?fref=nf</a>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: dragon-magic 時間: 2014-11-12 02:59:03</span></div></pre>
combo90805
【轉載】"中國國民黨"滅台證據懶人包(1110新增備份載點)
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8gjH
2014-11-09T22:36:44+08:00
2014-11-10T17:13:33+08:00
原網址:http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=2371912&tnum=11
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標題想了很久 但就是想不到適合的
說賣台也不對 因為裡面不只有賣台的證據
總覺得找不到簡潔有力.可以讓場外人點進來的標題
索性用了現在這個標題
讓這種政黨持續在台灣執政 從另一個觀點來看也算是滅台
如果有想到更適合的標題 麻煩留言通知我
以下正文開始
從以前開始我就在想一件事
我們大家都知道中國國民黨很爛 但到底是怎麼個爛法? 有沒有證據?
於是我就決定把中國國民黨的黑心歷史整理出來 讓那些9.2乖乖閉嘴
只是一直覺得很麻煩 就沒去做
9月多的時候我終於下定決心去做
不過意外的簡單 只要隨手把網路上看到的 那些中國國民黨做過的壞事複製.儲存起來就好了
過了2個月 檔案大小到達200MB(不過有一些是網頁檔 大小比較大) 思考 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> combo90805 (NET@)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 【轉載】"中國國民黨"滅台證據懶人包(拜託幫高調)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月09日 Sun. PM 10:36:43</div><hr color="#008080" />
原網址:<a href="http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=2371912&tnum=11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=2371912&tnum=11</a>
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標題想了很久 但就是想不到適合的
說賣台也不對 因為裡面不只有賣台的證據
總覺得找不到簡潔有力.可以讓場外人點進來的標題
索性用了現在這個標題
讓這種政黨持續在台灣執政 從另一個觀點來看也算是滅台
如果有想到更適合的標題 麻煩留言通知我
以下正文開始
從以前開始我就在想一件事
我們大家都知道中國國民黨很爛 但到底是怎麼個爛法? 有沒有證據?
於是我就決定把中國國民黨的黑心歷史整理出來 讓那些9.2乖乖閉嘴
只是一直覺得很麻煩 就沒去做
9月多的時候我終於下定決心去做
不過意外的簡單 只要隨手把網路上看到的 那些中國國民黨做過的壞事複製.儲存起來就好了
過了2個月 檔案大小到達200MB(不過有一些是網頁檔 大小比較大) 思考之後 決定先把目前收集到的檔案做成壓縮檔 上傳到網路上
連結在此 我還做成了短網址 想要轉載只要複製不到50個字元的網址就可以了
<a href="http://goo.gl/rqItt3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/rqItt3</a>
or
<a href="http://ppt.cc/Rypo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/Rypo</a>
一個是用google短網址
一個是用PPT短網址
雖然說是懶人包 其實只是把資料存起來而已
不過這樣子至少不必浪費時間在搜尋資料上 想要資料的話直接在這裡面找就好了
我說明一下這裡面的檔案
裡面有一些是網頁檔 我會用網頁檔儲存的東西有2種
第一種是在網路上看到 只能用網頁檔存起來的
第二種是在PTT上看到 我覺得重要 所以用網頁檔存
再來是文字檔
文字檔絕大多數都是PTT上的資料
因為PTT的資料我可以直接用文字檔存 而且檔案大小很小
裡面有個叫20141104的資料夾
我之後會做說明 不過沒什麼大不了的
有些人會懷疑 我會不會去偷偷更改資料?
如果你擔心的話你可以上網自己找原文 除非是我把檔案存好之後 原PO還有更動 不然資料應該是一模一樣
而且我可以說 我存檔後 我完全沒有再更動過那些資料(我記憶中是這樣)
頂多就是打開來看而已
因為我沒有PTT的發文權限 有的人麻煩幫忙轉載 謝謝
這篇文章+懶人包可以自由轉載 沒有限制
我發現網頁檔的部分 用網頁檔存檔格式會怪怪的
所以我重新用了一個壓縮檔 檔名叫KMT2
網頁的部分我會改成把網址存進文件檔 要開的話把網址複製貼上就好
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內容更新順序是從上往下 越下面的越新 但是最底下(噓線以下)的部分我不會動
大概就這樣 有需要的會再補充
看來我終於做了一件有需要附上不自殺聲明的事情了
不自殺聲明在小屋 我就不貼了
我在發這篇文章的時候 手是冷的 還會打錯字
所以有些用詞可能有點不當(例如標題 我就覺得這個標題不好 可是又想不到更好的)
不當的地方麻煩提醒我 謝謝
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原PO的不自殺宣言
本人在此特地聲明:
本人樂觀開朗,身體健康,無任何使我困擾之慢性病或心理疾病,
此事件雖讓我深感壓力,故絕不可能做出任何看似自殺之行為。
本人從無睡眠困擾,故不需服用安眠藥。
本人不酗酒亦不吸毒,也絕不會接近下列地點──
1. 開放性水域
2. 無救生員之游泳池
3. 設有高壓、危險氣體,或密閉式未經抽氣處理之地下室、蓄水池、水桶等
4. 無安全護欄之任何高處
5. 任何施工地點(拆政府除外),包括製作消波塊之工地
6. 任何以上未提及但為一般人正常不會前往之地點
本人恪遵下列事項──
1. 車輛上路前會檢查煞車部件、方向盤油、油門線等,
並會在加油前關閉車輛電源與行動電話。
2. 絕不擅搶黃燈、闖紅燈。
3. 乘坐任何軌道類交通工具一定退到警戒線後一步以上,直到車輛停妥。
4. 騎乘機車必戴安全帽;乘車必繫安全帶。
5. 絕不接近任何會放射對人體有立即危害的輻射之場所(如核電廠)或設備。
6. 颱風天不登山、不觀浪。
本人將盡可能注意電器、瓦斯、火源之使用。
本人居住之房屋均使用符合法規之電路電線,絕無電線走火之可能;
也絕未在家中放置任何可燃性氣體或液體。
浴室中除該有之燈管燈泡外,不放置任何電器用品,
並在睡覺前關閉除電燈、冰箱、電扇外之所有電器開關。
本人絕不會與隨機的不明人士起衝突,並盡可能保護自我人身安全,
亦絕不與馬統握手。
所以若網友在看完此聲明之後,近期或將來發現此帳號不再上線,
或發現無名屍,請幫我討回公道。謝謝!
總之就是不會去死就對了
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因為原PO在PTT沒PO文權限,就先幫他丟過來了
這邊有意見的我也會幫忙整理放過去這樣,麻煩大家了
1110更:
感謝vvv3vvv的備份
<a href="https://mega.co.nz/#F!OxAz3KiT!Ro6IEamfCKFKAcwf6-jYrA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://mega.co.nz/#F!OxAz3KiT!Ro6IEamfCKFKAcwf6-jYrA</a>
縮址
<a href="http://goo.gl/wOAmqG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/wOAmqG</a>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/vFqV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/vFqV</a>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: combo90805 時間: 2014-11-09 22:36:43</span>
<span class="record">※ 編輯: combo90805 時間: 2014-11-10 17:13:33</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:這空間流量小</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:備份</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://mega.co.nz/#F!OxAz3KiT!Ro6IEamfCKFKAcwf6-jYrA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://mega.co.nz/#F!OxAz3KiT!Ro6IEamfCKFKAcwf6-jYrA</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:縮址</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://goo.gl/wOAmqG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/wOAmqG</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/vFqV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/vFqV</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vvv3vvv</span><span style="color:#808000">:請直接拿去用</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">combo90805</span><span style="color:#808000">:已經丟上去+通知原po了 感謝</span></div></pre>
molisten
[HD]《不能戳的秘密》第二集《國家機器》中英文完整版
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8g8j
2014-11-08T21:35:30+08:00
2014-11-08T21:37:44+08:00
...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> molisten (molisten)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [HD]《不能戳的秘密》第二集《國家機器》中英文完整版<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月08日 Sat. PM 09:35:30</div><hr color="#008080" />
<div class="html"><iframe style="max-width:100%;" width="800" height="600" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/vJIPMDG1KV4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: molisten 時間: 2014-11-08 21:35:30</span>
讚 jr0424:完了完了...看完要被查水表了
讚 romaine:推
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cat0955</span><span style="color:#808000">:1949的國民黨似乎也是這樣........孫先生.你做的好事</span>
讚 kuoliwei:推</div></pre>
tama99
[新聞]我的同事不是人
http://disp.cc/b/1022-8flN
2014-11-03T10:49:25+08:00
2014-11-03T10:49:25+08:00
新聞出處/今周刊
新聞來源 : http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20141029/496538/
白領機器人來了,你能想像,有一天,你的同事是機器人,就連幫你看病的醫師,也是機器人!
隨著科技大躍進,具有人工智慧的服務型機器人愈來愈聰明,已逐漸威脅白領工作者,未來趨勢大師傅瑞甚至預言,2030年之前,將有20億個工作機會消失,你該如何因應?
「看到龍潭收費站上的指示招牌都被拆下來,眼淚忍不住掉下來,覺得這樣『好殘忍』。」2013年12月30日零時開始,高速公路全面實施電子收費後,前國道收費員廖春金看著一輛輛車駛過空無一人的收費站,面對解體的工作崗位,想到未來人生不知何去何從,讓她不禁悲從中來。20年前,這份待遇幾乎和公務員一樣,相當於鐵飯碗的工作,是她人生夢想的起點,覺得可以在這裡做一輩子。
不料,06年,她發現自己的工作地盤上,來了一個「不成人形」的同事在隔壁車道提供服務,這個所謂的「不成人形」的同事,其實就是電子收費系統。
在去年驚覺原來「收費員」即將成為歷史名詞前,她花了4年進修拿到了大學文憑,「 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Public_Issues </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> tama99 (tama9)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [新聞]我的同事不是人<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2014年11月03日 Mon. AM 10:49:25</div><hr color="#008080" />
新聞出處/今周刊
新聞來源 : <a href="http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20141029/496538/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.appledaily.com.tw/realtimenews/article/new/20141029/496538/</a>
白領機器人來了,你能想像,有一天,你的同事是機器人,就連幫你看病的醫師,也是機器人!
<div class="long_string">隨著科技大躍進,具有人工智慧的服務型機器人愈來愈聰明,已逐漸威脅白領工作者,未來趨勢大師傅瑞甚至預言,2030年之前,將有20億個工作機會消失,你該如何因應?</div>
<div class="long_string">「看到龍潭收費站上的指示招牌都被拆下來,眼淚忍不住掉下來,覺得這樣『好殘忍』。」2013年12月30日零時開始,高速公路全面實施電子收費後,前國道收費員廖春金看著一輛輛車駛過空無一人的收費站,面對解體的工作崗位,想到未來人生不知何去何從,讓她不禁悲從中來。20年前,這份待遇幾乎和公務員一樣,相當於鐵飯碗的工作,是她人生夢想的起點,覺得可以在這裡做一輩子。</div>
<div class="long_string">不料,06年,她發現自己的工作地盤上,來了一個「不成人形」的同事在隔壁車道提供服務,這個所謂的「不成人形」的同事,其實就是電子收費系統。</div>
<div class="long_string">在去年驚覺原來「收費員」即將成為歷史名詞前,她花了4年進修拿到了大學文憑,「可是現在大學畢業生滿街都是,又比我年輕很多,以後我要怎麼辦?」</div>
<div class="long_string">失業後,廖春金寄了6次履歷並面試4次,好不容易找到了新工作,目前在遠通電收帳務暨清分清算部擔任助理專員。對比其他收費員,有人走上國道抗爭,廖春金選擇在職場上重新出發,平日犧牲睡眠時間了解不熟悉的工作內容,還利用假日上課充實自己,努力熬過這段轉換期。</div>
廖春金的工作被電子系統取代了,這只是科技發展衝擊個人工作的眾多案例之一,場景轉換到機場。
<div class="long_string">許多人都有搭飛機的經驗,但是在機場櫃枱辦理報到手續時,為了節省時間,越來越多人不找地勤人員,而是利用自動報到機辦手續。可以想見未來,一部部冰冷的機器將逐漸取代深情的「大仁哥」。</div>
<div class="long_string">事實上,機器人早就來了,不同於工廠作業線上的機器人,它是「白領機器人」,將取代白領工作者的工作。由於電子、網路、加上白領機器人大量運用,將掀起你我無法想像的未來工作樣貌,這是企業或個人都不能忽視的重要趨勢。</div>
新預測!服務型機器人崛起
哪些工作會消失?
<div class="long_string">在美國已經有一些內科醫師的工作被取代,開設在購物中心的「一分鐘診所」(MinuteClinic),建構了完善的電子病歷資料系統,駐診護士檢測之後,搭配病人陳述的病史和病情,多半就能依需求開處方箋,不須假醫師之手。</div>
<div class="long_string">外科醫師精巧的手,應該無可取代吧?那麼你應該去醫院走一趟。手術房內,病人躺在手術台上,但開刀的醫師不是站在病人旁邊,而是坐在控制台前,他們利用「達文西機器手臂」,透過高解析度和放大十倍的影像動手術。不需要長時間、也不必擔心手抖的醫師說:「簡直像一個『縮小的我』進入病患的身體內在動手術一樣。」目前每年採用達文西手術的案例已超過二十萬。</div>
<div class="long_string">機器人的衝擊擴散到白領後,麻省理工學院經濟學家奧托指出,「雇用將出現兩極化」,也就是最後將只剩下高端和低階的工作者可以生存,高收入的一端以創新取勝,另一端則是靠體力賺取微薄薪資,廣大的中階工作者最容易被取代。</div>
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<span class="record">※ 作者: tama99 時間: 2014-11-03 10:49:25</span></div></pre>