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2013-11-15T09:39:02Z
happi252008.
[情報] FAIRY TAIL溫蒂模型 (上色圖)
http://disp.cc/b/254-6UGC
2013-11-14T21:07:27+08:00
2013-11-15T09:38:14+08:00
期待已久的溫蒂上色模型圖終於來囉
發售日:2014年3月下
尺寸:約 16 CM
圖片:
http://ppt.cc/W0YJ
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(771x1200)]
http://ppt.cc/~Joo
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(771x1200)]
http://ppt.cc/bBZJ
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x1137)]
http://ppt.cc/hyGI
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x1169)]
http://ppt.cc/9HlG
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(782x1200)]
http://ppt.cc/z3s0
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x1172)]
http://ppt.cc/8Z8B
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x1162)]
http://ppt.cc/1DDX
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x1097)]
http://ppt.cc/5poA
PPT縮圖 [點此觀看原始大小(800x1066)]
http://ppt.cc/ogK6
PPT縮 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> FAIRYTAIL </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> happi252008 (sakana)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [情報] FAIRY TAIL溫蒂模型 (上色圖)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Nov 14 21:07:27 2013</div><hr color="#008080" />
期待已久的溫蒂上色模型圖終於來囉
發售日:2014年3月下
尺寸:約 16 CM
圖片:
<a href="http://ppt.cc/W0YJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/W0YJ</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/W0YJ" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(771x1200)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:623px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/W0YJ@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/~Joo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/~Joo</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/~Joo" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(771x1200)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:623px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/~Joo@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/bBZJ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/bBZJ</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/bBZJ" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1137)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:569px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/bBZJ@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/hyGI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/hyGI</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/hyGI" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1169)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:585px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/hyGI@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/9HlG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/9HlG</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/9HlG" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(782x1200)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:614px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/9HlG@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/z3s0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/z3s0</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/z3s0" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1172)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:586px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/z3s0@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/8Z8B" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/8Z8B</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/8Z8B" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1162)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:581px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/8Z8B@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/1DDX" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/1DDX</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/1DDX" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1097)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:549px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/1DDX@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/5poA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/5poA</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/5poA" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1066)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:533px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/5poA@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/ogK6" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/ogK6</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/ogK6" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1066)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:533px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/ogK6@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/TtjT" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/TtjT</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/TtjT" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1066)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:533px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/TtjT@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/4cZK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/4cZK</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/4cZK" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x1066)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:533px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/4cZK@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
<a href="http://ppt.cc/RGZ0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/RGZ0</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=ppt.cc" /><a href="http://ppt.cc/RGZ0" target="_blank"><strong>PPT縮圖</strong> [點此觀看原始大小(800x890)]
<div style="display:inline-block;width:400px;height:445px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/RGZ0@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a></div></div> </div>
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溫蒂好萌 這是一定要給她敗下去的
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yukitowu
[灌水] YA歌
http://disp.cc/b/254-6L0z
2013-10-15T11:13:30+08:00
2013-10-15T11:13:30+08:00
果然熱門文章都被YA哥占滿了X|DDD ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] YA歌<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年10月15日 Tue. AM 11:13:29</div><hr color="#008080" />
果然熱門文章都被YA哥占滿了X|DDD
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2013-10-15 11:13:29</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[問題] 看不到圖
http://disp.cc/b/254-6uSh
2013-09-06T16:40:27+08:00
2013-09-06T16:40:40+08:00
https://disp.cc/b/163-6uRq
我從熱門文章看到這篇是有圖的,
可是進到內文卻完全沒有圖,
但這種狀況已經不是第一次了,
已經有一段時間,
還會有顯示圖片連結下方就空一大片,
但是就是沒有顯示圖片。
我檢測了一下元素,確定有iframe,
內容指到的位址也確定有圖片可以讀取,
但是在文章中就是看不到。
同台電腦上測試過
Firefox 23.0.1 看不到
IE8 可以
Google Chrome 29.0.1547.62 可以 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DispBug </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問題] 看不到圖<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年09月06日 Fri. PM 04:40:27</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="https://disp.cc/b/163-6uRq" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://disp.cc/b/163-6uRq</a>
我從熱門文章看到這篇是有圖的,
可是進到內文卻完全沒有圖,
但這種狀況已經不是第一次了,
已經有一段時間,
還會有顯示圖片連結下方就空一大片,
但是就是沒有顯示圖片。
我檢測了一下元素,確定有iframe,
內容指到的位址也確定有圖片可以讀取,
但是在文章中就是看不到。
同台電腦上測試過
Firefox 23.0.1 看不到
IE8 可以
Google Chrome 29.0.1547.62 可以
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2013-09-06 16:40:27</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:看來是因為用加密連線時 Firefox會把未加密的iframe封鎖... <a href="http://knuckles.disp.cc/pic/pick/20130907_001.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://knuckles.disp.cc/pic/pick/20130907_001.png</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:改成加密連線時 載入imgur的網頁也用加密連線載入了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:OK了 感謝</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[DISP] 安全連線失敗
http://disp.cc/b/254-5Bwr
2013-04-30T11:40:01+08:00
2013-04-30T11:40:19+08:00
連線環境是 Firefox 20.0.1
會出現圖中訊息:
http://db.tt/k1YdGuzS
因為 IE 不會自動跳 https,
現在是用 IE 貼文。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DispBug </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [DISP] 安全連線失敗<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年04月30日 Tue. AM 11:40:00</div><hr color="#008080" />
連線環境是 Firefox 20.0.1
會出現圖中訊息:
<a href="http://db.tt/k1YdGuzS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://db.tt/k1YdGuzS</a>
因為 IE 不會自動跳 https,
現在是用 IE 貼文。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2013-04-30 11:40:02</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:呃 昨天是有改了一下https的東西 不過chrome好像就沒問題耶 囧</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jorden2895</span><span style="color:#808000">:GOOGLE正常</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:把設定換回來了 現在應該可以囉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:恩 可以了</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[灌水] 資訊產業真不是人幹的,想換一行怎麼辦?
http://disp.cc/b/254-5wGQ
2013-04-17T15:40:09+08:00
2013-04-17T17:21:34+08:00
<br /> ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] 資訊產業真不是人幹的,想換一行怎麼辦?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Apr 17 15:40:09 2013</div><hr color="#008080" />
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lyen51032</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可惡在圖書館不能笑wwwwwwwww </span>推 04/17 16:56
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yukitowu
[灌水] PTT 新版的 WEB
http://disp.cc/b/254-5n6R
2013-03-26T13:42:47+08:00
2013-03-26T13:42:47+08:00
不是我做的。
不過已經 Release 上線了,
可以自己按大 Q 體驗一下。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] PTT 新版的 WEB<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年03月26日 Tue. PM 01:42:47</div><hr color="#008080" />
不是我做的。
不過已經 Release 上線了,
可以自己按大 Q 體驗一下。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2013-03-26 13:42:47</span></div></pre>
A3
[-Fx-] 『 Firefox 全民瘋測 愛逮丸 』活動
http://disp.cc/b/254-5gng
2013-03-06T22:35:01+08:00
2013-03-07T18:50:33+08:00
消息來源:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=489659674426763
[搶先焦點]
轟動釋出~ 全球前三大瀏覽器 Firefox, 即將推出在地專屬的台灣版啦!
Mozilla 大力邀請你參加『 Firefox 全民瘋測 愛逮丸 』活動,
成為台灣版 Firefox Beta 測試達人。
只要你/妳喜歡 Firefox, 自認平日熱愛上網, 對瀏覽器使用小有經驗,
歡迎你/妳加入 Firefox 全民瘋測活動, 搶先體驗台灣版 Firefox 最新功能!
網址: http://mozilla.com.tw/firefox/tw_beta/
Firefox - Open Beta 開放測試 - Mozilla Taiwan - 美商謀智台灣分公司 全球前三大瀏覽器 Firefox, 即將推出在地專屬的台灣版啦! Mozilla 長期致力於推動 Free Open Internet, 始終把使用者需求放在第一位, 即將推出最符合台灣人網路使用習慣的台灣版 Firefox 瀏覽器! ... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Browsers </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> kuro ( )<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [-Fx-] 『 Firefox 全民瘋測 愛逮丸 』活動<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Mar 6 22:35:01 2013</div><hr color="#008080" />
消息來源:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=489659674426763" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=489659674426763</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=489659674426763" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:960px;height:540px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.disp-tech.com/img3/fb_306195_489659674426763_348535840_n.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
[搶先焦點]
轟動釋出~ 全球前三大瀏覽器 Firefox, 即將推出在地專屬的台灣版啦!
Mozilla 大力邀請你參加『 Firefox 全民瘋測 愛逮丸 』活動,
成為台灣版 Firefox Beta 測試達人。
只要你/妳喜歡 Firefox, 自認平日熱愛上網, 對瀏覽器使用小有經驗,
歡迎你/妳加入 Firefox 全民瘋測活動, 搶先體驗台灣版 Firefox 最新功能!
網址: <a href="http://mozilla.com.tw/firefox/tw_beta/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mozilla.com.tw/firefox/tw_beta/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=mozilla.com.tw" /><a href="http://mozilla.com.tw/firefox/tw_beta/" target="_blank"><strong>Firefox - Open Beta 開放測試 - Mozilla Taiwan - 美商謀智台灣分公司</strong></a> 全球前三大瀏覽器 Firefox, 即將推出在地專屬的台灣版啦! Mozilla 長期致力於推動 Free Open Internet, 始終把使用者需求放在第一位, 即將推出最符合台灣人網路使用習慣的台灣版 Firefox 瀏覽器! ...</div></div> </div>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">autre</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看起來像是收了廠商許多錢,內置了許多一點都不會去的網站 </span> 03/06 22:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">SCYAzure</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不想裝,這種都會預裝一些雜七雜八的套件,最後還是都 </span> 03/06 22:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">SCYAzure</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被我砍掉XD </span> 03/06 22:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">knight00931</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這種做法是不是跟那什麼中國版一樣 </span> 03/06 23:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:安裝用了一下 也沒內置許多什麼其他網站 就fb,g+,plurk等網路 </span> 03/06 23:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:社群書籤 附加元件也就babylon一個廣告toolbar 不過沒啟動 </span> 03/06 23:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:裡面有個附加元件「firefox 捷徑」我覺得挺不錯的 有預設截圖 </span> 03/06 23:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:按鈕 也能新增電腦內軟體捷徑 不過以前好像有看過類似套件 </span> 03/06 23:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:然後還有個很輕量級的分頁套件「分頁管理器」 </span> 03/06 23:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其他套件就不怎麼亮眼就不提了 以上 </span> 03/06 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">avaug</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還不錯 希望能吸引Chrome的使用者棄暗投明 </span> 03/06 23:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">karst10607</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這時候該是gfx 抓火狐網站出動的時候 放個bbsfox很實用 </span> 03/06 23:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在中國論壇上看到說和「謀智中國版」基本一致 </span> 03/07 00:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我沒裝過中國版 不太清楚真相 </span> 03/07 00:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">channoides</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:babylon的toolbar啊 希望別被綁架了 </span> 03/07 06:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RouterHsieh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:babylon的toolbar根本就廣告軟體, </span> 03/07 06:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">RouterHsieh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣Mozilla是腦筋有問題嗎??? </span> 03/07 06:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">SCYAzure</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:安裝錯誤的訊息就是簡體字囉(攤手 </span> 03/07 08:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">query</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:既然跟中國版 有關聯 就沒興趣安裝 </span> 03/07 09:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">avaug</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪裡有babylon toolbar 我這裡怎麼沒有 </span> 03/07 10:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">aza0290</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為何會有中國的G-FOX?? </span> 03/07 11:06
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒有babylon toolbar嗎 @@ 可能我以前裝過babylon的遺毒…sry </span> 03/07 11:09
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為我一直都是用tete的免安裝 不是很乾淨的系統了… </span> 03/07 11:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gohome0083</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讓我想到之前opera的三太子台灣版 XD </span> 03/07 11:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gohome0083</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然好像很久沒更新了 </span> 03/07 11:18
<div class="ansi_group"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800080">用乾淨的虛擬機器重新裝了一次 確定沒有babylon廣告 sry 第一次的訊息是錯誤的</span></span></div>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: kuro 來自: 36.227.27.182 (03/07 12:40)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Wcw5504</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那個分頁管理器看起來還不錯 可以不用Tab Utilities了 </span> 03/07 12:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Vac</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道為什麼....我不敢裝 </span> 03/07 12:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kuro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上傳新安裝的打包檔中 內附pigfoot的前導程式 請稍後 </span> 03/07 12:55
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: kuro 來自: 36.227.27.182 (03/07 13:10)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sate5232</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有那個分頁管理器的xpi嗎?我想試試看 </span> 03/07 14:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pttdog</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 不想裝中國台灣版 還是官方版比較精簡 </span> 03/07 14:25
補個 火狐中國版 安裝畫面 (中國版夾帶的套件更多、還有百度toolbar…)
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: kuro 來自: 36.227.27.182 (03/07 15:32)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sate5232</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:實際使用了一下,預裝的套件都挺不錯的 </span> 03/07 15:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sate5232</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:首頁比原本的好看功能也多 </span> 03/07 15:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sate5232</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:很多人連裝都沒裝就在酸.... </span> 03/07 15:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sate5232</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://goo.gl/25oHx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/25oHx</a> 我把內附的套件打包一下,不想安裝 </span> 03/07 15:53
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=docs.google.com" /><a href="http://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ksIZ-vgdAfRW15TEdtT2xaa2c/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank"><strong>extensions.7z - Google Drive</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sate5232</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:的可以試試看,都算是比較輕量級的套件 </span> 03/07 15:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">timyau</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:獎品不太吸引人吶.... </span> 03/07 17:01
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">goddora</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣版預設應該要有BBS套件 XD </span> 03/07 17:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">timyau</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:結果還是試了XD 上述幾個套件都不錯。感覺缺滑鼠手勢跟拖放 </span> 03/07 17:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">timyau</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:同步之後移除了部分重覆的套件,結果用起來跟原生差不多..y </span> 03/07 17:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">timyau</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:首頁也改為 Google ... 果然沒什麼差 ~ </span> 03/07 17:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Vac</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Mozilla Taiwan 一開始雇用的執行長不就是 Mozilla China 的 </span> 03/07 18:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">timyau</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Orz 分頁管理器還是不太OK,我還是用我的 tab mix plus... </span> 03/07 18:30
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yukitowu
[灌水] 批兔
http://disp.cc/b/254-5flL
2013-03-04T09:59:04+08:00
2013-03-04T09:59:04+08:00
前幾天就覺得動作有點頓...
結果就在周末掛了。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] 批兔<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年03月04日 Mon. AM 09:59:04</div><hr color="#008080" />
前幾天就覺得動作有點頓...
結果就在周末掛了。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2013-03-04 09:59:04</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
Re: [無言]笨男人想分手
http://disp.cc/b/254-5dkW
2013-02-25T11:49:21+08:00
2013-02-25T11:50:05+08:00
在公司要開這篇文已經到了會 LAG 的程度了...
這會不會是 DISP 開站以來內容最多的文章啊www... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [無言]笨男人想分手<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年02月25日 Mon. AM 11:49:20</div><hr color="#008080" />
在公司要開這篇文已經到了會 LAG 的程度了...
這會不會是 DISP 開站以來內容最多的文章啊www...
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2013-02-25 11:49:20</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: yukitowu 時間: 2013-02-25 11:50:04</span></div></pre>
justjoylah
[無言]笨男人想分手
http://disp.cc/b/254-5c3u
2013-02-21T12:33:01+08:00
2013-02-23T00:11:32+08:00
很久前就答應朋友
要來分享點自己撞鬼...不是!!(手刀)
感情中鬼打牆的一些經驗
----------------------------
四年前交了一個職業軍人的男朋友
先不論他讓我 很想掐死他
但他的確讓我對軍人這職業改觀了
有沒有那麼閒?!!??!?!?!
星期三晚上放風 & 週休二日!!!!!!??????
國軍ONLINE 搜媽區放!!!!!
這對做設計的我來說...真是超羨慕的...
什麼叫朝九晚五?! 什麼叫10點就寢?!
簽下去!!簽下去!!簽下去!!女兵萬歲!!
不知道是不是 太閒 沒安全感的關係
才交往不到第三個星期就中邪了
在我拼命加了近一個星期的班後 的隔天早上
軍人男友打電話來 『喂~ 寶貝在幹嘛?』
我『在上班阿!!』 (夾著電話還在趕稿)
軍男(簡稱)『那妳吃早餐沒?』
我『還沒有捏~』
軍男『妳為什麼沒有吃早餐?!?!?!』突然間爆怒!!
我『阿想說等下要吃中飯了呀~』
軍男『妳知不知道妳不吃早餐我壓力很大?!?!?!?!??!』
我『嗯!?幹嘛壓力大阿~ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Stupid </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> justjoylah (阿婆不打掃)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [無言]笨男人想分手<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2013年02月21日 Thu. PM 12:33:01</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">很久前就答應朋友
要來分享點自己撞鬼...</span><span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">不是!!</span></span><span style="color:#808080"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%">(手刀)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">感情中鬼打牆的一些經驗</span>
----------------------------
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">四年前交了一個職業軍人的男朋友
先不論他讓我 <s> 很想掐死他 </s>
但他的確讓我對軍人這職業改觀了
</span>
<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%">有沒有那麼閒?!!??!?!?!</span></span>
<strong>星期三晚上放風 & 週休二日!!!!!!??????</strong>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">國軍ONLINE <s> 搜媽區放!!!!! </s>
這對做設計的我來說...真是超羨慕的...</span>
<s> 什麼叫朝九晚五?! </s> <s> 什麼叫10點就寢?! </s>
<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><s> 簽下去!!簽下去!!簽下去!!女兵萬歲!! </s></span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">不知道是不是 <s> 太閒 </s> 沒安全感的關係
才交往不到第三個星期就中邪了</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">在我拼命</span><span style="font-size:30px;line-height:100%"><strong>加了近一個星期的班</strong></span>後 <span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%"> 的隔天早上</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍人男友打電話來 『喂~ 寶貝在幹嘛?』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『在上班阿!!』 <span style="color:#808080">(夾著電話還在趕稿)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男(簡稱)『那妳吃早餐沒?』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『還沒有捏~』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『</span><span style="color:#F00000"><strong>妳為什麼沒有吃早餐?!?!?!</strong></span><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">』突然間爆怒!! </span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『阿想說等下要吃中飯了呀~』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<strong><span style="color:#F00000">妳知不知道妳不吃早餐我壓力很大?!?!?!?!??!</span></strong>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『嗯!?幹嘛壓力大阿~呵呵呵~笑A』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><strong>不要笑!!!!!妳這樣我真的沒有辦法了!!!!我...我...我要跟妳分手!!!!!!!!!!</strong></span>』
...........
........................
<span style="color:#808080"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">(繪圖筆從手中滑落)</span></span>
嗯!?
<span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%">嗯!?</span>
(挖一下耳屎)
I'M SORRY~~~
<strong>哩勾共擠拜!!!!PLEASE!!!</strong>
軍男『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我說!!!!!!!</span><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">我受不了了!!!</span><span style="font-size:30px;line-height:100%">我要跟你分手!!!!!!!!!!!</span></span>』
.........
.....................
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『..........所以...你要分手?』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">對!!!!</span></span>』<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(不假思索)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『你認真的唷?!』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:30px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">認真的!!!!!!</span></span>』<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(毫不猶豫)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『....因為我沒吃早餐???』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">....嗯....對...</span></span>』<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(音量下降)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『沒吃早餐就要分手?????』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">....嗯....嗯阿....因為我壓力很大...</span></span>』<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(小聲)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『我沒吃早餐你壓力很大????』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#800000">對阿...就是...不吃早餐...身體不好...</span></span>』<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(蚊子聲)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『所以你是在擔心我??』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">對!!我很擔心!!所以我很生氣!!</span></span>』<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(大師兄歸位)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『你大可不用找奇怪的藉口 你是真的想分手嗎?!』</span> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%">(揉太陽穴)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">....嗯....沒有...其實...我....沒有啦...就...不吃早餐真的...</span>』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『不吃早餐就分手...這理由講出去...誰會信阿阿阿!!』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">不是...我沒有....就是....</span>』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『所以你現在到底是怎麼樣?!我好忙...如果你真的因為這樣不要這段感情~我成全你』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">我沒有....沒有啦!!我沒有要分手</span>』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『可是你剛剛說了!!』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">沒有!!我沒有說!!!</span>』</span> <span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(尻憋...你沒說?! 那是我罕明(作夢)尼?!)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">不是啦...我不是那意思...我是擔心...是擔心妳</span>』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『你擔心我 我很開心!! 但是能不能不要把分手掛嘴邊??這樣很傷感情耶!!』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">對不起...我太激動了...只是妳都不吃早餐...我...就...嗯...</span>』
</span>
<span style="color:#008080"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">打到這裡讓我小吐槽一下...</span></span>
<strong><span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">你是有多注重早餐阿阿阿阿阿!!!!!???????????Σ(@ .. @ ;;)</span></span></strong>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『好...對不起...我不知道我不吃早餐讓你這麼擔心!!』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">嗯嗯!!妳知道就好!!</span>』</span> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%">(喔喔喔!!!嘎的!!!<s> 讓我打爆他的喉結!!!! </s>)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『那我以後都會吃 這樣好嗎?』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">很好!!!!!一定要吃喔!!</span>』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『知道了!! 那你可以不要把分手掛嘴邊嗎?!拜託~』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">好!!!我答應妳!!</span>』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『嗯嗯嗯!!!好~那你乖一點~我先忙!!我下班打給你!!』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男『<span style="color:#F00000">賀!!晚上等妳電話!!</span></span>!
<span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">喔!!!對了!!</span></span>!
<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%">記得一定要吃早餐喔!!!!</span></span>』
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<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">阿阿阿阿</span><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">阿阿阿阿阿阿</span><span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%">阿阿阿阿啊阿</span><span style="font-size:48px;line-height:100%">阿阿阿阿!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span><span style="font-size:72px;line-height:100%">!ヽ(* @Д@)ノ </span></span>
(宣洩中)
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【後序】
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">咳咳
總之 後來軍男真的非常乖!!
我都沒有再從他嘴裡聽到分手兩個字</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">但俗話說得好</span>
<span style="color:#00F000"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">山不轉路轉 路不轉人轉</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">人不轉...老娘可以讓你 <s> 轉世投胎的 </s> ...以下開放領號碼牌!!</span> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%">(離題了)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">早餐那件事過了大概一個星期
假日跟軍男約會
去吃飯的時候聊得很開心!!
但正開心的時候</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男突然嘆了口氣說</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">一個人的時候好自由</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『你現在也無敵自由的阿!!我又不管你的』</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">軍男</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">也是!!呵呵呵呵</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">手牽手散步的時候
軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">一個人的時候想幹嘛就幹嘛呢!!</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我『你現在還不是想幹嘛就幹嘛~XD』
軍男</span>『<span style="color:#F00000">真的耶!!呵呵呵呵</span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">逛夜市軍男</span>『<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">一個人可以吃好飽</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">看3C展</span>『<span style="font-size:20px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">一個人過的好像比較好耶</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">看電影</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%">一個人真的好自由</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">看電視</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:30px;line-height:100%">一個人真的好好喔~~~</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">開車送我回家時</span>『<span style="font-size:36px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">我真的覺得一個人好棒喔喔喔!!!</span></span>』
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">然後又繼續說</span>『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:40px;line-height:100%">一個人真的好好~真的很棒</span></span>』
『<span style="color:#F00000"><span style="font-size:50px;line-height:100%">我真的好想一個人唷!!!!!!!</span></span>』
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『<span style="font-size:50px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F00000">X哩老師咧!!!!
你喜歡一個人?!??!
你就從現在開始一個人吧!!!!!!</span></span>!』 <span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我爆炸哩!!! (羞)</span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">我很帥氣的叫他停車
下車
甩了他的車門 我就走了!!!!!!</span> <span style="color:#808080"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%">(快誇我飄丿)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">結束了這麼一段戀情 the end
但我下車後...非常有毅力的走了40分鐘才到家....</span><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(汗)</span></span>
<span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%"><s>應該在近一點的地方再發火下車的!!</s></span></span><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(遠望)</span></span>
<span style="font-size:16px;line-height:100%">總之~黑皮ENDING!! 可喜可賀!!</span> <span style="font-size:12px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#808080">(眼神死 高舉雙手)</span></span>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: justjoylah 時間: 2013-02-21 12:33:01</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: justjoylah 時間: 2013-02-21 12:47:45</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個男人有事嗎= =</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:真正的理由是學長介入吧... </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:果然軍人還是需要肥皂!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">peanuts8566</span><span style="color:#808000">:那...原PO吃早餐了沒??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qutelillian</span><span style="color:#808000">:看的有點辛苦 我覺得那男人超弱 根本就是想分手到不行又沒有尬斯</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">oeco</span><span style="color:#808000">:這男的根本有問題,沒心在交往嘛</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">rose72506</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以現在還有聯絡嗎?- -?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justjoylah</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒有連絡咧@..@</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justjoylah</span><span style="color:#808000">:感謝這位軍男~讓我在事後被朋友關心有沒有吃早餐...關心了一整年!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">happydaynow</span><span style="color:#808000">:他根本只是在亂找理由吧....??跟吃早餐沒關係...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">eric1129</span><span style="color:#808000">:原本都默默潛水看笨版,爲了這po文第一次留言了=。=""極品男人啊這不好找賀他一個人到老~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">fatpiggymei</span><span style="color:#808000">:他最近有去台中買情侶悲齁!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">fatpiggymei</span><span style="color:#808000">: 杯</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vis64</span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得真好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vis64</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領號碼牌謝謝</span>
賀~沒問題!!來~給!!!<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7oYqg5u1Kw9t70wL4HDNbm.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-7oYqg5u1Kw9t70wL4HDNbm.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">littledaemon</span><span style="color:#808000">:好文,推一個~~哈!!(甩的好)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pcplus29</span><span style="color:#808000">:領張號碼牌!!感恩</span>
賀~也給你~來~拿好!!<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7oYqg5u1Kw9t70wL4HDNbm.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-7oYqg5u1Kw9t70wL4HDNbm.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO是交到盧廣仲嗎?</span>
對阿對阿~對阿~對阿~~~~~~
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cat88</span><span style="color:#808000">:應該在近一點的地方再發火下車的!!(遠望)--->要注意 他根本是想分手/換人/換男人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">moonwind</span><span style="color:#808000">:李組長眉頭一皺 發現事情並不單純......</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:軍男 根本是想交男朋友</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">: 開後宮</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">anc01</span><span style="color:#808000">:早餐吃了嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:軍男其實已經有男朋友了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vis64</span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆娘我的雞排不辣不剪,現在叫到幾號了?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zxc2004v</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以原PO比較適合 蛋堡跟熱狗~ ROCK不吃早餐~ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uk8TxE2ZoM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uk8TxE2ZoM</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ddsc14</span><span style="color:#808000">:妳為什麼早餐不吃蛋堡跟熱狗?我受不了了,我要跟妳分手~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領電話號碼嘛!?</span>
<div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-66pJnOiXySB1yAmDH1T8gS.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-66pJnOiXySB1yAmDH1T8gS.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cj6x</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來熱狗的歌是為你寫的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BaconTheMeat</span><span style="color:#808000">:號碼牌!</span>
賀~來來來來~~~~~<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7oYqg5u1Kw9t70wL4HDNbm.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-7oYqg5u1Kw9t70wL4HDNbm.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我領的號碼牌可以換新的一張圖嗎</span>
賀~給你新的~~~~<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-5ncSxvqkWLpTFCONs27DSI.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-5ncSxvqkWLpTFCONs27DSI.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">iamqwq</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也可以要新的號碼牌嗎?</span>
我突然覺得不太妙...<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-2ieYCIbHuJZKrNybDWjOQR.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-2ieYCIbHuJZKrNybDWjOQR.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到這個銷魂的號碼牌,我也要一個新的</span>
感覺上好像是條不歸路....<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7BzwkiYJs760X88mEjStl9.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7BzwkiYJs760X88mEjStl9.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">rose72506</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈XDD我也要!不過我是女的?</span>
我對女孩兒是非常好的=////=<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7HSiOsPykaByhNFHWobdd.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-7HSiOsPykaByhNFHWobdd.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">monobooii</span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣講可能會讓人誤會...可是...原PO你好帥氣!!!! XDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackopq</span><span style="color:#808000">:畫的真好,我要領照片!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">QQcat</span><span style="color:#808000">:妳的圖好可愛!!<3</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">QQcat</span><span style="color:#808000">:有男朋友的可以領號碼牌嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">QQcat</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以的話可以厚臉皮的要新圖嗎(毆</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ko710223</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我希望可以用更KUSO的發法領號碼牌,麻煩妳了</span>
我真的不會畫KUSO的東西...你很討厭!!(樂)<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-6Qz50vB4x2YOQOkG8lMIJP.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-6Qz50vB4x2YOQOkG8lMIJP.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">herbertking</span><span style="color:#808000">:這男的是白癡嗎?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:科科 我也要領號碼...咦? 迷音說要板龜玖 (望</span>
什麼?!?!?!你再說一遍!!!!<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-3WRgDtVQ4j4VMxylvlj6Fi.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-3WRgDtVQ4j4VMxylvlj6Fi.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Heal</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問原PO可以來個更歡樂的發法嗎~ 我是女生XDDD</span>
我快沒梗了~>"<<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-1mR9696XM3cs1roMVXADUh.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-1mR9696XM3cs1roMVXADUh.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ddsc14</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領紅牌麼</span>
OUT!!!!!<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-3wRIJrI0Zu8BVmw5narWNq.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-3wRIJrI0Zu8BVmw5narWNq.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">box10027</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以來領便當嗎?</span>
沒有出鏡竟然還想領便當?!<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-1cG7asessrOii6erAp8Csv.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:319px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-1cG7asessrOii6erAp8Csv.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pp76409</span><span style="color:#808000">:這號碼牌的發法好酷喔~</span>
不知道怎麼回事.....現在一發不可收拾了....(摀面)
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在幾號了,原Po看我還有沒有機會,有的話也要領一張。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pp76409</span><span style="color:#808000">:+1+1太好玩了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pp76409</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領神主牌嗎XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pp76409</span><span style="color:#808000">:原波好溫柔~~~還餵便當XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ok995998</span><span style="color:#808000">:原OP我也要領~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">DonChi</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領帶嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">moonwind</span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣有比較有趣嗎?... 來個帥氣的領號碼牌吧(伸手...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vnjd9983</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領合照嗎XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ken888686</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要 號碼牌</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a78767717</span><span style="color:#808000">:亂怪一把的男生,如果我是你會阿砸死,呵</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lh34781431</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領皮卡丘嗎XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">dear0106</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以把原po領走嗎? (認真狀)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">birgon</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po好帥</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">air_sha</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果可以我想...... 領錢!!!! XDDD</span>
如果可以我想......你領完...給我!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jonnono2005</span><span style="color:#808000">:說一句心裡話..這個男的真的太幼稚了....都說一些小孩子會說的話..難怪你會生氣.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chicofy</span><span style="color:#808000">:這個軍男好可愛喔!!好想認識</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">perhaps</span><span style="color:#808000">:下面的圖文還真有趣欸!原PO是圖文部落客哦?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BoreRay</span><span style="color:#808000">:那些圖都是自己畫的嘛?!厲害!! 原po加油,看的出來妳是好女孩(?),相信妳可以遇到更好的^^</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">likeaki</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領好人卡嗎XDDD</span>
你是好人!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Carlyle</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領原PO的照片嗎</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">qutelillian</span><span style="color:#808000">:我跪妳~~~ 我也要一張號碼牌~~~(我是女的,手下留情QQ) 圖真的太可愛了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uno300</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以給我報個明牌嗎</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">air_sha</span><span style="color:#808000">:跪求我想領錢~~~((圖真的太Q了啦!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領門牌嗎??</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">intocenter</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO可以跟我玩撲克牌嗎? XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">awei80320</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po可以把我領走嗎?>/////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Heal</span><span style="color:#808000">:讚啦~~~ XDDD 感謝原po賜牌!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ddsc14</span><span style="color:#808000">:嗚~好感動...我領到紅牌,被原波帶出場了...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要 號碼牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chyang778</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想領軍男的神主牌 XD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">foxsoul</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領愛情A限時批>\\<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po的圖畫的好有趣,風格很可愛哦!!(排隊領號碼牌...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:43樓 筷子有腳趾味嗎? 話說原po把我抓起來了?...(驚恐</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">shecon</span><span style="color:#808000">:推號碼牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bearyves</span><span style="color:#808000">:領號碼牌(乖乖排隊~),有寫真風格的號碼牌嗎XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:這是領牌區嗎?哈哈哈XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sealion</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領號碼牌,要special的^^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領~~~明牌~~</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">kobe5287</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領~~~~神主牌~~~</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">peanuts8566</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈~~原PO的發號碼圖都好可愛 XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jamesjones</span><span style="color:#808000">:好可愛喔~~~!!迷上了~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Bobby</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以來領炸豬排嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ChengLeo</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想要領早餐~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a99447</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po可以賜你家地址門牌嗎....>///<</span>
台中市西屯區四川東街33號
→ <span style="color:#FF0">holymars</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好強!!!!!!! 分手好沒分手的FU阿~~~哈哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">holymars</span><span style="color:#808000">:祝你遇到一個正常人~ 可以領雞排嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qaz9638</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領天燈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">genzo</span><span style="color:#808000">:樓下要領______</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">PChair</span><span style="color:#808000">: 便當</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BaconTheMeat</span><span style="color:#808000">:我看原PO今天又不用上班了 :P</span>
想上班就是先把PTT關掉XXXDD
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:想認識原PO啦!!!!!!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ahqyear</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好可愛</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">happydaynow</span><span style="color:#808000">:推用心的回應鄉民~~~好親切的原po~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po 我要領錢~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:推原PO~好有才華</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">smilemia</span><span style="color:#808000">:goodjob! 我也要領號碼牌~請溫柔點好嗎>""<</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hiimissyou</span><span style="color:#808000">:元坡好強!!有女友的也可以發號碼牌嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">wa22haha</span><span style="color:#808000">:你再集8點,就送...草泥馬</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cjwc</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領號碼牌阿 可以甜蜜點的嗎>///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po 我想跟你交往</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">box10027</span><span style="color:#808000">:76F 原PO那麼可愛應該是不會那麼做吧...!!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justjoylah</span><span style="color:#808000">:你們這群傢伙...真的很驚人!!!!!!!!!@ . . @"</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justjoylah</span><span style="color:#808000">:醬子我工作就沒進度了啦XXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">justjoylah</span><span style="color:#808000">:[center][url=http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-72qP2slzoSS0NmaCkOQSEh.jpg][img=418,800]<a href="http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-72qP2slzoSS0NmaCkOQSEh.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-72qP2slzoSS0NmaCkOQSEh.jpg</a>[/img][/url] [/center]</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">vivianhebe</span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑死了XDDD 從早餐變到號碼牌...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">twmarstw</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO可以交往嗎>///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">RayFeiYa</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來盧廣仲在玩國軍骯賴XDDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">herbertking</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我可以先看一下號碼牌長啥樣子嗎?還有闆龜九...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:103F是說原PO可愛不可能有用有腳趾味的筷子餵人? 還是說抓我? ((就~是~你~❤</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kkes815</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想要領姐姐畫的圖!!!!!!!!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s0003939</span><span style="color:#808000">:他想跟你玩肥皂遊戲</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ff9180009</span><span style="color:#808000">:可愛的大大可給號碼牌嗎'3'?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Farland</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以給大大號碼牌嗎?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">rovan132</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實他很聰明XDDD想分手來這樣的招~讓人感覺他很好 哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">rovan132</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也想領號碼牌啦!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">acatmeow</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈,推文好可愛XDD </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Nick0419</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO真的太有才了 讓我這潛水夫都上岸來辦一個帳號領</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Nick0419</span><span style="color:#808000">:"號碼牌"了 ..... 原PO真的超可愛 推文!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kevin800514</span><span style="color:#808000">:記得吃早餐喔!!揪咪!我也要領號碼牌!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ivesom</span><span style="color:#808000">:有趣的號碼牌我也想領!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">unming</span><span style="color:#808000">:好多人領號碼牌....不想排隊XDD....有黃牛號碼牌可以買嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blacklydeath</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO是正妹</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想領今天的工資..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yayoi1937</span><span style="color:#808000">:糟糕...我也想領個號碼牌XDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">vek626</span><span style="color:#808000">:大大的圖太好笑了~我也想領~~~帶~>////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BaconTheMeat</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO再這樣下去應該會先被網友玩死吧XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BaconTheMeat</span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然我也很想再要一張特殊卡OwOa</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO真有才!我也可以領號碼牌嗎?(大誤</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a5164782</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好正 >///< 我也要一張號碼牌^///^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">richz</span><span style="color:#808000">:這傢伙,看來想跟你分手,只是突然理智恢復發現這理由很扯,所以後來改催眠妳</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">neodio</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到圖就想問 現在還能領號碼牌嗎....</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">richz</span><span style="color:#808000">:認真看完推文後...原PO好可愛喔 你明明梗就很多啊XD 之前有看到關於設計的四格</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">richz</span><span style="color:#808000">:給你拍拍! 如果撐不下去可以考慮賣雞排唷 聽那位前輩說 現在比較快樂@_@</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">penis64</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">www50719</span><span style="color:#808000">:好帥氣!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領一到一百號</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:OMG ...領號碼牌變這麼歡樂的事…((伸手</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ice0309</span><span style="color:#808000">:好多人!!我也來排一下XD!!原PO很有才ㄟ!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領情書~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">fscw</span><span style="color:#808000">:怎麼感覺有點歡樂..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jasonbear104</span><span style="color:#808000">:第一次在上班時間用手嗚著嘴笑到快抽筋~~~!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lyc</span><span style="color:#808000">:可不可以領別的? 除了號碼牌以外的 (為了問一下特別登入了XD)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以插隊嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cc100100cc</span><span style="color:#808000">:他想分手想瘋了吧 還是他看到 另一位美女 @@? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cc100100cc</span><span style="color:#808000">:一段感情 不好好經營 可以叫他去撞牆了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領號碼牌 請歡樂的給我 ^.<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">topsniper</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為本文+原PO的圖讓我翻箱倒櫃找出很久以前註冊的帳密來登入XDDD原PO是正妹!!!((諂媚))我要莎朗牛排((喂~!!))</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">topsniper</span><span style="color:#808000">:掰惹胃,可以借轉到PTT笨板嗎?? ^^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO求認識</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">DispJason</span><span style="color:#808000">:忍不住辦帳號了,我也要領~~~號碼牌~~拜託~~原PO讚讚</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:天氣涼涼的天...怎麼我笑到全身發熱ㄚ!!!! (伸手)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:元PO正妹 快跟我LINE一下</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jasonbear104</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以幫我把號碼牌放在我....................裡面!!!(奸笑)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想領詔書</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO真有才。 網誌也很歡樂XDD 果斷訂閱RSS</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ToBeGentle</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要認識原po 然後也要號碼牌 XDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO這樣發送門牌沒問題嗎 XD 我想領.....領走原PO 可以嗎? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tofuman</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想用今天的工資,換號碼牌!(請溫柔點~) (謎:聽說你現在失業耶~)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:跪求神主牌~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:突然覺得好喜歡原Po, >///< </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以現在是在揪團跟原PO告白嗎? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Naniko</span><span style="color:#808000">:啊哈哈XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">air_sha</span><span style="color:#808000">:等我領到錢在跪還可以嗎XDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:太可愛了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">anatomy6794</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也想把原PO領走XDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">sopi</span><span style="color:#808000">:畫得好好笑XD 你吃早餐了沒</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:結論是今天的早餐妳吃了嗎??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:來個自動領牌機好了...(一直喊著下一位)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來前輩也是設計圈的肝鐵人~ˊˇˋ((茶~......像這樣不知設計界疾苦的"男"友就當作是鬼打牆遇到好了~賀喜前輩終於擦亮雙眼了ˊˇˋ((茶~ 話說......號碼排發完了@@?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我愛你!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">monstermao</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以把號碼牌系列拿來當桌面嗎 =w=?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Joneschan</span><span style="color:#808000">:被原PO的可愛圖拐進來的跪求...想過後領原PO回去比較好0.0</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">marvin0406</span><span style="color:#808000">:等...等等噗哈哈哈哈哈!!等等.....等等我一下噗哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈(約莫20分鐘 呼嗯咳!好了!推..推文....太好笑了剛剛抱著肚子彎腰真的.....活著真好(汗 話說我要號碼牌XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我可以把你嗎? 好想要會畫畫又幽默的女朋友....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sgk</span><span style="color:#808000">:皇上請翻牌...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領.....原PO嗎?(羞</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我可以請教領號碼牌的意思嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:推po~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a76714andy</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">RackX</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO有打算再交新男朋友嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kyo0524</span><span style="color:#808000">:好恐怖的領牌風~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我愛你</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我....想領 免死金牌 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aaa12101</span><span style="color:#808000">:我愛原PO+1</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aaa12101</span><span style="color:#808000">:太有趣了<3</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">douhui123</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也想領號碼牌!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:皇上請翻我(?)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a020477764</span><span style="color:#808000">:我只想領走原PO………</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:當兵男:跟男朋友一起上班比較有話聊...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giner0202</span><span style="color:#808000">:這裡變成領牌集散地= =</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以幫我女兒領張健康長大牌嗎QWQ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ader999</span><span style="color:#808000">:掛號到抽籤補位了嗎?我幾號了?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO號碼牌拿去(遞</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">draco6514</span><span style="color:#808000">:有自動領牌機嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saffeh</span><span style="color:#808000">:超強的…推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">mercadian</span><span style="color:#808000">:太可愛了 XD 路過的也能領一張號碼牌嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那笨男人在哪個單位服役啊? 感覺是在國防部。 因本人以前作息也是這樣</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:三外宿,週休二日,週休二日,十點就寢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">coolboy1241</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有號碼牌可領嗎 :P</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hippo04</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO馬尾好可愛~ 我可以領雙馬尾發的號碼牌嗎?XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領便當~~要三層的!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:想領原po的照片!>/////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">herbertking</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要號碼牌+照片</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cd0715</span><span style="color:#808000">:連我已婚都因為看到這麼可愛的號碼牌而心動.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:插畫好可愛!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jb543543</span><span style="color:#808000">:插畫超可愛 我變成你的粉絲了>w<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO是正妹!!!!!!!!可是他是我的!!!!!!!不可以告白!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(((推</span>
所以表示我可以大舉屠殺了?!Σ(@ .. @ ;;)<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><a href="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-4bbzKEj1wZxlP6Icu6Cf7Z.jpg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:800px;height:520px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i2.disp.cc/img3/images.plurk.com_mdNK-4bbzKEj1wZxlP6Icu6Cf7Z.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:正妹+1</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO畫的圖好可愛~~~~~我也要號碼牌!!! </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈!!!!!!!!!!!!! 你想上頭條嗎親愛的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來這麼多人想斷送在你的手上</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:你這劊子手!!!!!!((((指!!!!!!!!!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">catburger</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po好厲害,純粹來朝聖...號碼牌純推不下(?)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO畫的圖很可愛啊 XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">WAC0W</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以趁亂告白嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:剛睡醒就看到這麼好笑的串........</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">catburger</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po是圖文部落客嗎?有部落格或噗浪可以看嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:要紅了~~~~要紅了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:好想伸粉絲團~~你開個圖文粉絲團好嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:從我家到原PO家不到15分鐘!原PO我來啦啦啦啦啦~~~~~(奔</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO請跟我交往。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">brianxiao</span><span style="color:#808000">:你老闆現在在你後面。。。他現在有點火。。。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jay0702</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/AH2b" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/AH2b</a> 收下了(煙)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:(((笑到不行了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以領結婚證書嗎??????(炸)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">oldog</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領雞排嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO的地址梗...@@</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/RsEx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/RsEx</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">monstermao</span><span style="color:#808000">:我已經準備好被你了斷了這樣~(菸</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ggboy0227</span><span style="color:#808000">:領原po+1</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:推 jay0702 : <a href="http://ppt.cc/AH2b" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/AH2b</a> 收下了(煙)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO辛苦了!請吃早餐!(遞)(伸手拿號碼牌)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO是插畫家阿 <a href="http://www.wretch.cc/blog/justjoylah/17310305" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wretch.cc/blog/justjoylah/17310305</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:帳號跟PTT暱稱一樣</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO正妹</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">blairan</span><span style="color:#808000">:看圖看到快笑爆了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO你直接畫台叫號機吧...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">herbertking</span><span style="color:#808000">:(叮咚)2百3十號,請跟原PO領照片...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖~(ptt跟pnn帳號沒互通喔 XD)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">williams7527</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到號碼牌~本人也忍不住把首PO獻給你!!~~~>/////<* 來個愛心A吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kgh2038</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領>W< 原PO正妹 >///<</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tequilawu</span><span style="color:#808000">:意圖使人登錄推文</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:推圖推文推原波!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:wwwwwwwwwwwww</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:好可愛XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈!原PO超可愛~簡直可愛翻了 (jay 大收到了也好有哏 XD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">knoane1125</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在排到幾號了 (?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">wallaroo1919</span><span style="color:#808000">:好強!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以男主角是大鼻子?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼會開始領號碼牌啊= =?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">togg</span><span style="color:#808000">:今天是我生日可以領蛋糕嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">MANGAMARU</span><span style="color:#808000">:妳甩了門,個性很帥;圖也畫很好,所以不要挖坑給自己跳,會畫不完的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO可以交往嗎>///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到繪圖筆從手中滑落瞬間理解原PO多驚(這東西摔不得的)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:即便要被屠殺 還是要領牌~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:領紅牌那張原po有三隻手 @@?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tim80604</span><span style="color:#808000">:笑死我~~</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">helpdisp</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好猛喔!! 哈哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那是哨子=ˇ=不是三隻手...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">benjenq</span><span style="color:#808000">:大家都叫我「憋」...妳「尻憋」分手了害我爽了一下(≖ิټ≖ิ)...領牌+1</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ggboy0227</span><span style="color:#808000">:生日快到了 可以領特別的嗎?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">evilfirefox</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也想! 我也想被發牌了斷 (欸!?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">alvin0416</span><span style="color:#808000">:嗯嗯~我們遊戲業果然都出奇葩!~(笑</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">LuciferJ</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇真的很有趣XD"</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">coolwind4410</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po 你好嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:求交往!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Audrey605</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有開放報名陪原PO一起吃早餐</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">alvin0416</span><span style="color:#808000">:忘了推~哈哈!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">acmilan</span><span style="color:#808000">:砸爛 領號機器!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yillie</span><span style="color:#808000">:好有趣喔!!! 完全忘了剛剛心情不好!!可以幫我家小狗領狗牌嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我覺得你很有潛力當下一個彎彎 </span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Audrey605</span><span style="color:#808000">:哎呀剛剛沒推到</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:好有趣喔XDD 我現在還可以領號碼...衣嗎 (!?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO超會畫畫!好厲害!超強!真的可以求了斷嗎?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Cloud0937</span><span style="color:#808000">:好笑了...我忘了登入就說要領號碼衣= =""</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那可以要原PO的手機嗎?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">HiMulberry</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po我是女生 。///。好喜歡你的圖文 請問有部落格嘛XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">amadeswu</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也想要領號碼牌 要FB MSN 至於手機~就算了XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以要妳的生辰八字嗎 我要拿去合一下緣份 XDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kaihg</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我喜歡你啊!!!我也要號碼牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yrhhigy</span><span style="color:#808000">:我能要..........神主牌嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">topsniper</span><span style="color:#808000">:樓樓樓樓樓上: <a href="http://www.wretch.cc/blog/justjoylah/17310305" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wretch.cc/blog/justjoylah/17310305</a></span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kojojo</span><span style="color:#808000">:先推原PO正妹,圖又可愛XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kojojo</span><span style="color:#808000">:"台中市西屯區四川東街33號".....那篇我笑死了XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kojojo</span><span style="color:#808000">:(我的留言怎麼不見了,我的號碼牌咧????不算啦!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想給原 PO 女友牌!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zhl</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈!原po好有趣!我要領10張~~~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO真可愛~我也要號碼牌~~~不過我也是女生(小聲說)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈..真的超有趣的女生..我也想領號........角翔起XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO很正~長得很像波多野結衣</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">topsniper</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO的圖有鎖骨耶!!!......((被亂刀砍</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:= =ptt?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">h7733o</span><span style="color:#808000">:我是第一次看到DISP有圖的作者回復</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vivileaf</span><span style="color:#808000">:好好笑</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">spring23193</span><span style="color:#808000">:看了FB學長的文章,就要跟著鄉民一起來領一下!!缺一雙可以牽的手這樣>////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">w88718</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈 原PO好好玩 XDDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">icexfox</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想要領 結婚證書 可以嗎? >\\\\<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:昨晚王母娘娘托夢告訴我.說.這裡可以領號碼牌.還說要一次領3張.我臉上的胎記就會不見了..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">su3cl3</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好可愛,我真的好喜歡你唷!我也要號碼牌 (羞</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我領號碼排到香港來了XD (我住香港的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kashiwa13</span><span style="color:#808000">:聽說把住址打出來會變米字號呢 我住在*******************</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:很可愛</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nomysky</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO超可愛+1</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nomysky</span><span style="color:#808000">:給原PO一句話:過去就過去 現在要現在 未來是未來</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nomysky</span><span style="color:#808000">:裝神棍有沒有號碼牌領?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">benny0302</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po還有號碼牌領嗎 ? 不然明牌也行滴...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">caonimabe</span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑了 ((打滾</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領錢嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kouhei0619</span><span style="color:#808000">:原波~我朋友叫我來幫忙領張好人卡....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不行.....我笑到沒力了XDDDDDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">iew</span><span style="color:#808000">:真難得這麼有幽默感跟才華的女生,居然有男生會拼命說自己有多喜歡一個人獨處的時候,是腦袋燒壞了嗎....XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yalynn929</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD笑到無力~一看再看阿~!!! (剛好300有獎品嗎?羞~)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">icewind</span><span style="color:#808000">:竟然沒搶到300號!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">awei80320</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po太有梗了,害我一直在看你無名...跪求號碼牌ORZ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hazesx</span><span style="color:#808000">:我不要號碼牌...我可以領早餐嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:...0.0</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cutehorse</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po正妹~我的第一次就給妳了... >/////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">andrewkung05</span><span style="color:#808000">:我我我我也想要號碼牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要集點卡</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD 笑到沒力~ 想領好人卡+1 XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:看完原PO的圖 我愛上原PO了=////=</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gary6107</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po是正咩無誤!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=justjoylah&b=17&f=1019817068&p=4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=justjoylah&b=17&f=1019817068&p=4</a> </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po有簽下去的潛力/</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:求交往>///<</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:隨著推文爆掉 而我得到的號碼牌出現在FB上!!!! 我決定來送原PO一首歌~ </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:[center][quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3vavYUi2NI][b]MC HotDog 不吃早餐才是一件很嘻哈的事 - YouTube[/b][/url][/quote]</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">l9571</span><span style="color:#808000">:[youtube]<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3vavYUi2NI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3vavYUi2NI</a>[/youtube] [/center]</span>
設計人不吃早餐是再正常不過的事情!!!!!!!!!(高歌)
推 <span style="color:#FF0">santaKC</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有號碼可以領嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">unao_o</span><span style="color:#808000">:有人領神主牌嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:求粉絲團!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO的灑脫 讓我甘拜下風 號碼牌留一張給我啊...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO南部人!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:號碼牌什麼的我才不需要呢...原PO請直接跟我在一起!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">xiao</span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:厲害到連我這個沒有帳號的路人都想要領了..</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">varian0728</span><span style="color:#808000">:領號碼牌+1 可以插隊嗎XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jack2017</span><span style="color:#808000">:謝謝大大的真情分享,小弟也想領張號碼牌,但我想要護身符 哈哈!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">RockGC</span><span style="color:#808000">:有豬排可以領嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ms0512344</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO整個很霸氣,還可以一一給號碼牌? 不過我也想要一張...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO是正妹 無誤!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">turnover</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO給我發張機會卡可以吧!!! ((招手 唷乎 原PO看這邊唷~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">alexmate</span><span style="color:#808000">:媽阿 空前盛況耶</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我是原PO的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">h19772001</span><span style="color:#808000">:媽媽</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要拿號碼牌,ㄎㄎ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kakyoking</span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖需要領號碼牌 ~ T A T</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好可愛</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我要領車牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以約原PO出來約會嗎 <3 >/////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s0955031972</span><span style="color:#808000">:領號碼牌~~~快了斷我吧<3</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇沒意外 可能會爆版......原PO可以先給我一各...乖乖牌.嗎??...(炸飛)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Dark_overlor</span><span style="color:#808000">:阿阿!!!邪仔@@這是你的故事喔</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Dark_overlor</span><span style="color:#808000">:感覺很好玩XD我也可以要號碼牌嗎XD(伸手</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">corna2902</span><span style="color:#808000">:叮咚,5927號,請到三號櫃檯。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不過就剛好那男的個性很難懂而已,幹麻扯到國軍???(我老公好的咧!!</span>
幹嘛扯到你老公?! @ @"
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問號碼牌的Combo到多少了 ? (愣)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">boudu</span><span style="color:#808000">:(˙_˙)/ (舉手發問) : 號碼牌領這麼久...可以領便當了嗎 ?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lazzybond</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領早餐!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">b916110226</span><span style="color:#808000">:不行了,此文必須領牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以你吃了嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">RUNNNN</span><span style="color:#808000">:身為一個設計人,不吃早餐是一件很正常的事...</span>
同胞)))))))))))))))))))))
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ctcafe99</span><span style="color:#808000">:給你100讓我插個對領個號碼牌~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO有沒有粉絲團可以加?我搜尋不到Q_Q</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">SPPSPP123</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO太帥了! 但我不想被屠殺....</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nomysky</span><span style="color:#808000">:早上好 要九點了 吃早餐了否?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">twmarstw</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我很想被你屠殺,給個機會吧你?</span>
你們真的很失控!!!!!(摀面)
矜持點阿阿阿阿)))) Σ ( @ ◇ @;;;)!!!!!!!
媽媽盼著你們回家阿阿阿))))
別貪玩了!!!!!!!!!<div class="d5h"> </div><div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:800px;height:470px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://images.plurk.com/mdNK-1eiwShUtPYlNwcdi0OzFfF.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div><div class="d5h"> </div>因為你們實在太驚人了!!!我要去深山隱居了!!!(揮手)
別來找我~~我在捕魚的時候很專心!!<div class="d5h"> </div>掰掰~~掰掰~
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po很讚~水啦!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原波的馬克杯很有特色,開放團購嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=justjoylah&b=12&f=1834232724&p=23" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?i=justjoylah&b=12&f=1834232724&p=23</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO真的很可愛 (L)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">intela01624</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO真的很會畫圖。希望原PO工作順利。另外求被了斷,我可以寫你做受益人。</span>
衝著受益人三個字...尻憋...我很心動!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kmb345</span><span style="color:#808000">:好號碼牌,不領嗎?我也要一張</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了~</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">playone</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問幾張號碼牌可以換好人卡一張?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">grain315</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO超讚!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">farewell</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po我愛妳!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了 原po 好可愛喔!!! :)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:支持原PO 雖然是傷心事 回推文超用心XD 喜歡 有沒其他作品可以追蹤收藏</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cuteaheng</span><span style="color:#808000">:同為設計人~朝聖~原PO超可愛!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Chinre</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO超可愛 >/////<</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">abc1231qa</span><span style="color:#808000">:[1G]好歡樂喔!!!! 而且原PO還有推圖!!!![/]</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tony3228891</span><span style="color:#808000">:讚</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本上,我已經鍛鍊到再怎樣忙也要吃早餐的程度啦~~~!(仰天狂笑)PS:我可以要求以魯夫的方式領號碼牌嗎(炸)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">oLJFo</span><span style="color:#808000">:超想認識原PO 感覺就是很有趣的人 ^.^</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">conquerlin</span><span style="color:#808000">:Go 阿姨</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sealion</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好可憐哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sealion</span><span style="color:#808000">:越後面越蒼傷,快紅了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jasonbear104</span><span style="color:#808000">:請給我一張有吉祥數字的號碼牌~~~~~~~我要回去放在我家神桌上面稟告公媽~~!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sheila755</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也排隊領號碼牌~~~</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jay0702</span><span style="color:#808000">:"深山隱居" "捕魚" 我先去日月潭卡位。</span>
你太天真了!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 一一+
→ <span style="color:#FF0">asdf546837</span><span style="color:#808000">:那男的腦袋進水還是壞掉了阿 =口=</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:號...號碼牌呢?昨天明明還在的阿Q口Q</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">chemickey</span><span style="color:#808000">:聽說這裡有在發雞排是嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:Joy好可愛>///< 圖也是!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">sep</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問現在領牌,排到幾號了?聽說會有禮品!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sgk</span><span style="color:#808000">:我住在***********************麻煩寄實體號碼牌過來,請盡量晚上送貨給我...謝謝!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sgk</span><span style="color:#808000">:疑?地址顯示不出來?更!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">vcha</span><span style="color:#808000">:號碼牌~(伸手~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:號碼牌我來了~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">graydevils</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po發號碼牌發到手軟了...可是我還是要一張 :p</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jerry1988524</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以要一張是被原PO用號碼牌掉起來的嗎XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">twmarstw</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我願意以結婚為前提求交往>///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠杯 看到後面的時候笑到肚子好痛阿~~!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:大姊~就乖乖從了我吧~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">bercerus</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在演到哪齣了0.0</span>
演到原PO成功驅魔了一一+
退散吧)))))))鄉民們!!!!!!!
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tofuman</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO的回推文完全就是『口嫌體正直』的典範啊!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:第二部,群魔再起!!求號碼牌(爬爬爬...)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">topsniper</span><span style="color:#808000">:讓我想到伊藤潤二的那張萬用圖.....XDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:打不死的鄉民們~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">LuciferJ</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到你的滴咕可見你驅魔失敗了~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">davidhavefun</span><span style="color:#808000">:這男的真高招,兵不血刃地就把女方給甩了,而且女方還以解脫為樂,可說是好聚好散的最高境界,鄉民要推啊</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領號碼牌拉XDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jay0702</span><span style="color:#808000">:!!!!!!!!! 猜錯了..... <a href="http://ppt.cc/PMO1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/PMO1</a> </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:第一次在這留言 .. 因為實在是太想要號碼牌了!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO的無名好有趣!好想追新的文 .. 不過無名好像一段時間沒更新不知道在哪追就是XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我是女生,我也想要領號碼牌,口以嗎?please~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然我也是女兒身 可是原PO太可愛了請跟我在一起(遭毆 (○'艸`◎)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s8012531</span><span style="color:#808000">:版主妳太喜感了 =))</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">peter4872000</span><span style="color:#808000">:好@Д@</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">herbertking</span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑翻了XDDDD最後那張圖~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Zuyi</span><span style="color:#808000">:再度再度推薦你這篇文章 XDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lovedog</span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然我是女的.....但看到人排隊領號碼牌......</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lovedog</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO~~~ 我也要一張~~~~?!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ggc808</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也想要一張:)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">love101169</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po好可憐=)))) 我也要一張號碼牌ˇˇ</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........此篇已爆..原PO已崩潰........ 哦 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">: 對喔 我的乖乖牌咧??.... </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.kuai.com.tw/images/story.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuai.com.tw/images/story.jpg</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ryanby0726</span><span style="color:#808000">:燃起我醬爆心中的一團火,我醬爆感覺到,在這個時刻,要爆了!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:牛頭牌? </span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hwppin</span><span style="color:#808000">:好可愛的圖文啊! 原PO甚麼時候振作起來的話~可以再發號碼牌嗎? XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:啊啊原PO我願意領你的號碼牌讓你了斷我XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nancy82101</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領早餐><</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:好歡樂XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zx7788993</span><span style="color:#808000">:有原PO圖嗎??</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jach</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以當我女朋友嗎? 看你畫的圖好好,好有趣 ^^/</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jach</span><span style="color:#808000">:希望可以每天看到,且每天都有不同的圖</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">IcePeople</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO看過BBS鄉民的正義嗎XD~?不能跑走~不然鄉民人肉搜索是很恐怖的~</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">KAYEXE</span><span style="color:#808000">:推推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想領鄉民卡XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原文是PO在笨版嗎? 是不是被刪掉了啊~來不及去朝聖了QQ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:終於DISP板也有些人氣了.. 不然看到一堆人發文都小貓兩三隻在回</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">bercerus</span><span style="color:#808000">:是這篇太厲害了~一堆回文= =</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gavin77</span><span style="color:#808000">:蠻有趣的!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chien533</span><span style="color:#808000">:在disp沒看過有那麼長的推文過,這篇應該有破紀錄吧!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteman0725</span><span style="color:#808000">:幫411樓上圖</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteman0725</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.kuai.com.tw/images/story.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuai.com.tw/images/story.jpg</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yellowcash</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我願意以結婚為前提求交往>///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上好膽量0.0</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:要等一下..(遠目測)...原PO身後號碼牌應該夠三天存量 請三天後再...再來...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:鄉民..退..散...飭...飭...飭...飭...飭...飭</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:對喔 我的乖乖牌出來了 原PO咧??.... </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.kuai.com.tw/images/story.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuai.com.tw/images/story.jpg</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">happyandsad</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個男的可以去死了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">riderk14</span><span style="color:#808000">:收藏此PO,加到我的最愛~ >///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">herbertking</span><span style="color:#808000">:.........最後那張圖根本是在餵金魚XDDDD</span>
本來是想畫惡靈古堡的...但偏偏我自己很怕鬼
→ <span style="color:#FF0">peter4872000</span><span style="color:#808000">:好好笑XDD~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:圖超可愛的XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">SARA978</span><span style="color:#808000">:抽屜放滿野戰口糧當早餐的我......還不算專業的設計師嗎 Σ(@ A @ )</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">deadboy</span><span style="color:#808000">:好久沒看到笨板爆了~~結果有多少人領到電話號碼牌了??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">imagine1992</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問號碼牌領到幾號了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我要排隊領神主牌(咦?)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:既然來了就跟著要一下吧!!我也領撲克牌!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不是餵金魚是餵食人魚吧 (oi</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Vylette</span><span style="color:#808000">:感覺那男的只是有新歡, 想趕快往新歡飛奔卻又不知該找啥理由跟你分手=__= </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">river0724</span><span style="color:#808000">:不想要號碼牌我想領情人牌>//////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:真有趣~圖也好可愛~我也要領號碼牌~另外再請你吃早餐</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jach</span><span style="color:#808000">:不想要號碼牌我想領夫妻牌>//////<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想...我戀愛了~~</span>
我想...我真的是糗大了~~
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:小女的第一次回文就獻給同在西屯區從事設計的原波了((波一個:P</span>
嗯!?我想...我應該是在中和區吧~!?@@"
→ <span style="color:#FF0">lh34781431</span><span style="color:#808000">:我顧著看留言 差點忘記原文是甚麼了XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">varian0728</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO回文好可愛XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">twmarstw</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,不要號碼可以領FB嗎>///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">snoopy8648</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO我也要號碼牌~~太會畫了吧哈哈,有圖文網誌嗎??</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">snoopy8648</span><span style="color:#808000">:純推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">RockGC</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以創個粉絲團了原PO</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">gay2214</span><span style="color:#808000">:推 號碼牌加一</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個住址應該不是原PO家喔...那是另外一個故事了...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Asuna</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD真的好可愛</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Bobby</span><span style="color:#808000">:我沒有領到我的豬排阿QAQ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ptandppt</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以先問身高體重三圍嗎........</span>
60.60.60!!!
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tsukiyolove</span><span style="color:#808000">:我親身體驗過,(部分)軍人當久了真的會變笨,而且講話就如原po前男友那個語氣一樣低能(扶額</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">iamqwq</span><span style="color:#808000">:有領到!推一下!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po怕鬼..(筆記...;厚實的肩膀(獻上~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO~我也在中和區耶!!! 難得這麼有緣~可以領號碼牌嗎? ^////^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nopeacelove</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">LuciferJ</span><span style="color:#808000">:咳) 原PO我已經在你門口了 不介意的話開個門~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">twmarstw</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我也中和區!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Jokerclown</span><span style="color:#808000">:T^T我為了領號碼牌第一次創了帳號.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Jokerclown</span><span style="color:#808000">:人家第一次都給了妳......T^T你卻.....(哭)</span>
雖然我是惡性倒閉...但請你不要臥軌拜偷...
上次我被困了好久好久才回得了家...
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO又上浮.................我的乖乖牌 ...不想做一各乖乖牌....沏克鬧.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領號碼牌~~~~揪咪~我是女生XDDDDD 你的帥氣行為我已經給你好多讚了^U^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">n227740</span><span style="color:#808000">:笑道被我爸罵說瘋子唷!! 那個原PO本兔奴可以跟妳要張號碼牌嗎XDDD?!要號碼牌可以獲得帥兔子照片一張!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來惠畫畫是這麼有趣的一件事(顆顆~ </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不嫌棄的話, 原Po可以來偶家呀~ 忍家再準備早餐給妳(啾咪~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sanji175</span><span style="color:#808000">:我是正港潛水鄉民 為了原PO才浮上檯面的...(淚</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">intocenter</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實軍男是想講這個吧!?原po妳誤會啦! <a href="http://disp.cc/b/337-5cJL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/337-5cJL</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cc100100cc</span><span style="color:#808000">:完蛋了 本來只是想分享一篇怪男友的文 分享一下 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cc100100cc</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在竟然 .... 變成好多人在跟你要電話</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cc100100cc</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈哈哈 痾秘陀佛 (敲木魚</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">loveluck00</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領號碼牌XD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">zo6xul4misa</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要領號碼牌XDD 這人氣原PO真的可以創粉絲團了餒</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">m4a172525</span><span style="color:#808000">:四腳獸再現??? 我也要號碼牌</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s970831</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以幫我兒子領號碼牌嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s970831</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有隔壁的老王~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s970831</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有樓下的小明~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s970831</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有園區的新貴~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s970831</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有~~~(被押著頭打字)我老闆的兒子說要插隊~~~~~~~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:妳不發號碼牌 我們壓力很大... 記得要吃早餐XD</span>
不發我可以體驗一次甩掉一個軍團的鄉民耶!!!(甩瀏海)
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO犧牲一張號碼牌,召喚出亡靈大軍,結果這回合!</span>
亡靈逆襲‧玩家陣亡
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BaconTheMeat</span><span style="color:#808000">:那拿到號碼牌呢?:P</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:說好的號碼牌勒?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">uriijai2</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po,大軍正在等著您呢!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">intela01624</span><span style="color:#808000">:欸原PO有回我,有訝異到。但…我是真的想離開這世界。<(_ _)>覺得有點過意不去,真抱歉。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上....XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/justjoylah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/justjoylah</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO開粉絲團啦~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">holymars</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO有阿納答了!? 桑心</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nanahsu</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po好帥, 我可以不要領號碼牌, 一起去吃雞排嗎~ (啾咪)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">war77</span><span style="color:#808000">:看完不領號碼牌 我覺得我良心過意不去 所以 要一起吃早餐嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">meow8126</span><span style="color:#808000">:那要一起吃午餐跟晚餐嗎 >< 哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">mengtsung</span><span style="color:#808000">:請問原Po貴司還有缺人嗎!? >///<</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:這一、兩天上班壓力頗大,跪求解悶漫畫一枚,拜託拜託拜託拜託拜託拜託拜託〜〜〜</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO已開粉....原PO已開粉....原PO已開粉....原PO已開粉....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:........我的乖乖牌 ...不想做一各乖乖牌....沏克鬧.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">galliano</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/justjoylah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/justjoylah</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z2007213</span><span style="color:#808000">:我是自稱跟原波一樣在西屯區做設計的小妹,剛剛才知道台中市西屯區四川東街33號的梗,也太丟臉了吧我!!!!!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">blackcat0133</span><span style="color:#808000">:推 號碼牌加一 圖有創意.</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pupugin</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好可愛 一開始看你的分手文覺得笨男人很欠扁</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">pupugin</span><span style="color:#808000">:可是看到發號碼牌的原PO 整個心情就好了起來</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">babesun</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO的圖...整個笑翻>口<"</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不知是不是同一人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.i-part.com.tw/file/file_viewfile.php?u=1704535" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-part.com.tw/file/file_viewfile.php?u=1704535</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:哇~連這個都翻出來了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO畫的超棒的w不過我不是想領號碼牌,只是想拜一下(what) 順帶一提我是女生QwQ 我也想做設計(痛哭)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以跟你要電話嗎...0.0!!! 我不要號碼牌XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO畫工超讚,憑號碼牌換樓下美而美或水餃。(嚇死妳</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hsuan0915</span><span style="color:#808000">:我....我...我也要!!哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a4415a4415</span><span style="color:#808000">:我還沒領便當跟號碼牌耶=ˇ= 錢也是可以拉 我接受XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">darkmanganni</span><span style="color:#808000">:我想領個樂透明牌......</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=220762078062271&set=a.220762061395606.50064.220142648124214&type=1&theater" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=220762078062271&set=a.220762061395606.50064.220142648124214&type=1&theater</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:新的領號碼牌方式XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saiyuki0804</span><span style="color:#808000">:大家快去家粉絲團領號碼牌阿XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">miamia</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實這位大頭兵應該是有躁鬱症。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">miamia</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO其實是我的,我根本就不需要號碼牌。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:太爆笑了從頭到尾 圖超有梗的我的天 早知道早一點來就可以有號碼牌了 ˊ ˋ 我也好想要有一張號碼牌阿 ㄚㄚ </span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dirty0124</span><span style="color:#808000">:=======大家就別在騷擾了,這樣原PO以後哪還敢PO文阿!========</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">mouthcannon</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO,我想......................領雞排!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我被原po 吸引了~哈哈~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">az20031</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈,已經沒人要關心軍男了,這回文的圖真是太可愛太生動了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ctrisew</span><span style="color:#808000">:爆點在回文…</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">remedios</span><span style="color:#808000">:....其實到後面都在看回文 @@</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">G3A19</span><span style="color:#808000">:軍中的人還滿怪的ㄚ 不過你的貼圖還真好笑</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">orz09199190</span><span style="color:#808000">:號碼牌=.=</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kagetai</span><span style="color:#808000">:www 原來是曾經追過的部落客 難怪畫風好眼熟XDDD 更新呢XDD(敲碗</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:www.buy365.com.tw</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇po文故事被做成T恤了~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po正妹</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Ohkokusa</span><span style="color:#808000">:原OP加油= u =</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ryankung</span><span style="color:#808000">:原po的回文真的太有梗了 真可愛 不得不登入推一下....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">juuj1117</span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了 看到圖 我笑傻了!!!!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yas5423</span><span style="color:#808000">:我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD我要領牌xDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.buy365.com.tw/index.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.buy365.com.tw/index.php</a> 裡面有原po喔 原po正妹+1</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">godlikech</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有新號碼牌可以領嗎?? 我比較帥所以男主要畫帥一點 謝謝</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">summer820628</span><span style="color:#808000">:好可愛的圖阿XDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">summer820628</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果是我應該是等他送到我家巷口在停車甩門+不見</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">elli</span><span style="color:#808000">:畫的好可愛~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">linstyle</span><span style="color:#808000">:不吃早餐是一件很high的事</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你今天吃早餐了嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果我沒看錯的話 原PO的類型好像昨天的18CM便當女 可是差好多 外表基本上完勝 有才藝有個性更加分</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:感覺跟18CM便當妹同一個類型 不過等級差太多 原PO有個性有才藝 完勝~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:恭喜原PO分手,話說之前當兵的時候怎常放假就被叫回去,晚上加班到常看日出...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">BunnyBugs</span><span style="color:#808000">:男生根本腦包</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ginahahahaha</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO感覺很FUNNY</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">fs2300a</span><span style="color:#808000">:想你又回來推一次 有牌可領 嗚嗚</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO好可愛 哈哈 超愛你的圖XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">CFJ88</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO這膜幽默的女孩 不推不行</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a2013</span><span style="color:#808000">:重點是太早下車嗎.....</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">yky0307</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO太可愛了啦!我是女生愛上你了XDDD 可以給我個愛心嗎 <3</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dowakii</span><span style="color:#808000">:問一下原po發到幾號了? 看到這邊我也想被發一張 阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jo6vul4</span><span style="color:#808000">:可以在跟妳領號碼牌嗎</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Lovevil666</span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以領一張妳穿短褲藍白拖發的號碼牌嗎XDDDDD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">aaa1357</span><span style="color:#808000">:這圖比彎彎好太多了 而且超有風格</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">icedesu</span><span style="color:#808000">:圖好可愛~~~~ </span></div></pre>
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[爆卦] 經典遊戲「決戰富士山」28年後重製上市
http://disp.cc/b/254-4O72
2012-12-20T18:54:03+08:00
2012-12-21T10:55:16+08:00
http://tinyurl.com/czgnfpm
講Karateka台灣知道的大概沒什麼人,講「空手道」(決戰富士山)知道的大
概比較多,有玩過這個遊戲的請舉手,保證一定是年過30的大叔。28年前的
Apple II經典遊戲今天重製上市了,想當年光華賣的橘子二號芭樂二號全都是
放這個遊戲當Demo,老骨灰看了重製版會不會流下時代的眼淚?
28年前(1984)畫面長這樣
http://tinyurl.com/d2cmtqr
2012畫面長這樣
http://tinyurl.com/c54pmn8
首發預告片(超搞笑)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDy-CSFsPs&feature=player_embedded
Karateka: Official Trailer (2012) - Extended Director's Cut - YouTube Get Karateka in the iOS App Store now! - The Extended Director's Cut trailer for ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> momocom (momocom)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [爆卦] 經典遊戲「決戰富士山」28年後重製上市<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Dec 20 18:54:03 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/czgnfpm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/czgnfpm</a>
講Karateka台灣知道的大概沒什麼人,講「空手道」(決戰富士山)知道的大
概比較多,有玩過這個遊戲的請舉手,保證一定是年過30的大叔。28年前的
Apple II經典遊戲今天重製上市了,想當年光華賣的橘子二號芭樂二號全都是
放這個遊戲當Demo,老骨灰看了重製版會不會流下時代的眼淚?
28年前(1984)畫面長這樣
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/d2cmtqr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d2cmtqr</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:576px;height:394px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://cdn.toucharcade.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Karateka-1984-Apple-II-Akuma-Sends-Guard.gif" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
2012畫面長這樣
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<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:1280px;height:720px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/7206473/Karateka_2012_-_True_Love_vs_Guardhouse_Guard_2_-_Side_View.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
首發預告片(超搞笑)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDy-CSFsPs&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDy-CSFsPs&feature=player_embedded</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDy-CSFsPs&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank"><strong>Karateka: Official Trailer (2012) - Extended Director's Cut - YouTube</strong></a> Get Karateka in the iOS App Store now! - The Extended Director's Cut trailer for Karateka (2012), an innovative remak...</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/6pDy-CSFsPs?autohide=1&autoplay=1&feature=player_embedded"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/6pDy-CSFsPs/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
這次重製的小組來頭也不小,製作人Jordan Mechner同時是波斯王子製作人
,動畫設計Jeff Matsuda是蝙蝠俠黑暗騎士的藝術設計,配樂Christopher Tin
是葛萊美獎得主(文明IV主題曲)
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<div class="ansi_group"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#008080">★kittyxxx<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800080"> 我打電話叫我男友來接我,他居然說他正在和公會出團坦巫妖王>.<</span></span></span></span></div>
</div>To kittyxxx: 所以他遲到了多久?
<div class="ansi_group"><div class="ansi"><span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#008080">★kittyxxx<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800080"> 沒有遲到,我一發脾氣他就馬上出來了^_^</span></span></span></span></div>
</div>To kittyxxx: 妳這個女人!妳根本不知道他有多愛妳!!
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<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">MMMB4219</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我都還沒出身 </span> 12/20 18:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">WenliYang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:!? </span> 12/20 18:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Mews</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這超好玩 </span> 12/20 18:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alprazolam</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓下還沒出山 </span> 12/20 18:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Bignana</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四樓的水準 </span> 12/20 18:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">boyawake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一直鞠躬就死了 </span> 12/20 18:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jeff0811</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Jordan Mechner本來就是karateka的原作者 </span> 12/20 18:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">nugundam</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:oops 我玩過耶 當時和"飛狼"(<-不知原名,中文寫飛狼)並列 </span> 12/20 18:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">nugundam</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:當時兩大讓我廢寢忘食之作 </span> 12/20 18:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">linph</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:擺戰鬥姿勢進公主牢房還會被公主一腳踢死嗎? </span> 12/20 18:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zgoi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個怎麼感覺在FC玩過 </span> 12/20 18:58
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">talan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XBLA已經上好幾個禮拜了 </span> 12/20 18:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhc0723</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:成龍之龍何時要出新版? XD </span> 12/20 18:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ldstar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:以前不是叫成龍踢館? </span> 12/20 18:59
成龍踢館是這個
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<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:441px;height:307px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://mag.udn.com/html/it/UDNMAG/20070831/5.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
決戰富士山比他還古老
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:音樂我還記得咧 看到畫面馬上想起來 XD </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">boyawake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:成龍踢款是另一款,要爬樓梯打擂台的 </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">panyuwei</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:以PS3的水準,這個畫面我覺得...很差 </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">momocom</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:戰姿進公主房間會被踢老二然後秒殺 </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:成龍踢館是另個遊戲 以前就只叫KARATEKA (空手道) </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jay0207</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 一直鞠恭.... </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這遊戲要破台超簡單的 開頭主角一直倒退就掉下山了... </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大魔王應該是公主無誤... 一定是自願被關住 </span> 12/20 19:00
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而且成龍踢館比較後期 遊戲音樂比KARATEKA多... </span> 12/20 19:01
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: momocom 來自: 77.8.160.184 (12/20 19:02)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LOVE4715</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這款在合卡上 應該是叫做空手道 (認真練了好久 被鳥戳死 </span> 12/20 19:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:成龍的精典內容: 窩~喝喝喝喝 KARA:鞠躬再鞠躬... </span> 12/20 19:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">PaulAnka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:karateka是空手道家 空手道叫karate </span> 12/20 19:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hellomorning</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重製 味道就變了 </span> 12/20 19:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">turbomons</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超級999合1卡帶 </span> 12/20 19:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上面是說當年的譯名... 當年一堆GAME的中譯名很神奇.. </span> 12/20 19:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LVE</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:SORRY 我25喔! </span> 12/20 19:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這款及一些FC的GAME 當年一塊卡帶要價1000多台票... </span> 12/20 19:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">PaulAnka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:講決戰富士山我還真的不知道 小時候玩時名字就叫空手道 </span> 12/20 19:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在還有50元紫色鈔的那個年代... </span> 12/20 19:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">b2284446</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那時候我記得叫空手道XD </span> 12/20 19:05
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">PaulAnka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嗯 對啊 我也記得以前就叫空手道 決戰富士山沒聽過 </span> 12/20 19:05
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">momocom</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那我改一下好了,我是記得叫決戰富士山 </span> 12/20 19:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真的沒聽過什麼決戰富士山... 當年這款沒記錯的話 </span> 12/20 19:06
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">PaulAnka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:999合1很多重複的好不好 根本就騙錢 </span> 12/20 19:07
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: momocom 來自: 77.8.160.184 (12/20 19:07)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是同 高橋名人大冒險島 兵蜂 馬利歐 這些差不多時期出 </span> 12/20 19:07
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">PaulAnka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超級瑪莉 瑪莉兄弟 水管工人 水管兄弟... 幹都同個遊戲 </span> 12/20 19:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">skylion</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小時候完全不知道怎麼玩得一款遊戲 </span> 12/20 19:07
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XXX合一是比例晚的了 什麼2K卡帶 4K 16K 32K 這才..XD </span> 12/20 19:08
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AmekawaKou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PAUL大所提的 會出現在合一卡帶名稱中... </span> 12/20 19:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">digimaster</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:28年前根本不是那個樣子 螢幕是單色的(綠字白底) :D </span> 12/20 19:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原始版本是 Apple II 版, 叫決戰富士山是因為背景畫面 </span> 12/20 19:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nightwind209</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:公主是最強的<a href="http://0rz.tw/yxm6D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://0rz.tw/yxm6D</a> </span> 12/20 19:11
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxdDd-z4374&feature=player_detailpage#t=1603s" target="_blank"><strong>Karateka 1984 - Apple II Gameplay Footage - YouTube</strong></a>
Complete Apple II walkthrough of the original 1984 Karateka, including the infamous "alternative" ending. Pro tip: Never approach a royal princess in combat ...</div></div>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">digimaster</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 黑 </span> 12/20 19:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:任天堂版是日本移植的 原作者並沒有參與 </span> 12/20 19:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:公主正面起腳就可以踢臉還秒殺 功力深不可測 </span> 12/20 19:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">digimaster</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:最後要跑步跑向公主才能破關 用走的會被踢死 </span> 12/20 19:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Tenging</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可以一直敬禮 </span> 12/20 19:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">whitefox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net 可以抓Apple II模擬器 </span> 12/20 19:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">whitefox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:/pub/apple_II/images/games/action/karateka/ 遊戲 </span> 12/20 19:37
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">lalasochi</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Old-Games</span> 12/20 19:37</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">OPWaug</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:感謝借轉 </span> 12/20 19:47
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">OPWaug</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Emulator</span> 12/20 19:48</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">JJBEAR</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小時候超賭爛這遊戲 </span> 12/20 19:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">GustavSo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超懷念 </span> 12/20 19:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jason050117</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:歡迎大家加我好友 ID:斷水流大師兄 </span> 12/20 19:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CTHsieh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 我覺得舊版比較好玩, 新版只有畫面好, 玩一次就不想玩了. </span> 12/20 19:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">CTHsieh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 新版操作比舊版還簡單.... </span> 12/20 19:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">CTHsieh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 決戰富士山 是 PC版的譯名吧, 當時都只有盜版(軟體世界?) </span> 12/20 19:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">JACK90142</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一開始就倒退走會摔死... </span> 12/20 19:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ymcg</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小時候一直跟敵人鞠躬然後被踢死,太有禮貌下場就這樣 </span> 12/20 19:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yuchi1003</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我玩過~不過當時完全不會玩= = </span> 12/20 20:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">minda723</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我玩過 APPLE II的空手道 錄音帶卡帶式 </span> 12/20 20:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CTHsieh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 舊版最難的是踢老鷹, 十次有九次在打Boss前被老鷹啄死... </span> 12/20 20:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">flux</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:康永 </span> 12/20 20:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eist</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:最強的一招不是腋下給你聞嗎 </span> 12/20 20:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AI3767</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那小孩的手, 到底在幹嘛= = </span> 12/20 20:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">purin3333</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:紅白機成龍較早 <a href="http://ppt.cc/s3zd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/s3zd</a> <a href="http://ppt.cc/CP7X" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/CP7X</a> </span> 12/20 20:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">saile60391</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好懷念...我快國中的時候發行的遊戲 </span> 12/20 20:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">momocom</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這款原生是Apple II,所以要用1984來算 </span> 12/20 20:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hank11235813</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:相信大家都有一直鞠躬然後被踢死的回憶 </span> 12/20 20:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">momocom</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:紅白機1985那已經是移植了 </span> 12/20 20:34
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">yesmotel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:醜死了 </span> 12/20 20:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LCamel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小時候第一次走到公主那被一腳踢死時 嚇到我搖桿都掉了 </span> 12/20 21:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ljsnonocat2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這遊戲超難 </span> 12/20 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a1e</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GB上以前有出過,現在流行重製風囧 </span> 12/20 21:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shintz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2HSoL_h8Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2HSoL_h8Q</a> 超難的 </span> 12/20 22:03
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主角只會一直敬禮,被打到一下就死了XD(其實有玩法)</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/mc2HSoL_h8Q?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/mc2HSoL_h8Q/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nonamesu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:媽的 我竟然有玩過... </span> 12/20 22:06
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Apple 版用鍵盤不難操作... 應該不用多久就可以玩到破了 </span> 12/20 22:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Asucks</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:玩過 維持跑姿衝向敵人時,會被一拳打趴 </span> 12/20 23:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sese5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:難是難在超莫名的操作 </span> 12/20 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lapis0523</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:玩過+1..超難玩=.= </span> 12/20 23:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Sevorlaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一直鞠躬就死了 </span> 12/21 00:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tomokazu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要按下 </span> 12/21 00:24
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yukitowu
[心得] Dropbox上的垃圾分享
http://disp.cc/b/254-4KqD
2012-12-09T14:14:01+08:00
2012-12-09T14:28:18+08:00
Dropbox 或許不是最好用的服務商,
不過我最常用的空間就屬他了。
不過最近有個問題困擾著我,
就是我的 email 常會收到一些透過 Dropbox 發送的檔案分享訊息,
(這裡提醒,來路不明的檔案不要隨便下載)
訊息很明顯就是廣告郵件,
分享的檔案是一個網頁,
內容是一個 JavaScript 寫的轉跳語法。
但我已經收了好幾封了...,
我在 Dropbox 上跟 Help 都找不到如何回報這些垃圾;
甚至去填寫意見,
也得不到 Dropbox Team 的回應,只收到罐頭回覆;
當然可能是我的英文太爛,這就另當別論了。
但廣告信件還是不斷的寄到我的 email 來,
至少要眼不見為淨,
可是這些分享訊息的寄件者是 Dropbox <no-reply@dropbox.com>,
主旨內容也幾乎沒有辦法過濾,
收件人也是我...,
但還是讓我找到過濾的方式,
只要從信件中的 Reply-To 可以找到發出這個分享的帳號,
像我收到的垃圾信就是
Reply-To: ycnebzje@sharklasers.com
只要設定過濾這個條件就可以自動刪除這些垃圾郵件了。
R ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Free_box </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [心得] Dropbox上的垃圾分享<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Dec 9 14:14:01 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
Dropbox 或許不是最好用的服務商,
不過我最常用的空間就屬他了。
不過最近有個問題困擾著我,
就是我的 email 常會收到一些透過 Dropbox 發送的檔案分享訊息,
(這裡提醒,來路不明的檔案不要隨便下載)
訊息很明顯就是廣告郵件,
分享的檔案是一個網頁,
內容是一個 JavaScript 寫的轉跳語法。
但我已經收了好幾封了...,
我在 Dropbox 上跟 Help 都找不到如何回報這些垃圾;
甚至去填寫意見,
也得不到 Dropbox Team 的回應,只收到罐頭回覆;
當然可能是我的英文太爛,這就另當別論了。
但廣告信件還是不斷的寄到我的 email 來,
至少要眼不見為淨,
可是這些分享訊息的寄件者是 Dropbox <no-reply@dropbox.com>,
主旨內容也幾乎沒有辦法過濾,
收件人也是我...,
但還是讓我找到過濾的方式,
只要從信件中的 Reply-To 可以找到發出這個分享的帳號,
像我收到的垃圾信就是
Reply-To: ycnebzje@sharklasers.com
只要設定過濾這個條件就可以自動刪除這些垃圾郵件了。
Reply-To 的訊息
可以檢視信件的詳細資訊,
或者檢視信件原始碼並檢索 "Reply-To:" 就可以找到;
或者 email 軟體按下回覆信件時,
顯示的收件者應該也是一樣的;
我不確定其他郵件軟體或者服務商是否能過濾 Reply-To,
可以先試試看用全文搜尋 Reply-To 的 email 看是否能找到該封郵件,
Gmail 的篩選器可以用 replyto: 作為條件來篩選。
這些訊息提供給需要的使用者利用。
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hismallsix.
[問卦] 請問有人認識他嗎?
http://disp.cc/b/254-4Jwz
2012-12-06T14:14:59+08:00
2012-12-08T11:57:23+08:00
剛剛不小心逛到的,發現他實在寫得太中肯!
自己實在太孤陋寡聞,不認識這位高手。有版友可以指點一二嗎?
http://0rz.tw/zopHV
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「學生好乖,部長來給你們檢查身體」.
Thorsten Lin 寫於 2012年12月5日21:06 ·
.
「學生好乖,部長來給你們檢查身體」
這標題好像下的有的聳動XDDDD
我進德國大學的時候,學長帶我們參觀校園
「這個黑板下的銅牌表示,XX老師在這個教室上課上到一半被納粹抓走」
「89年的時候一個學姐在這裡和警察對幹,被車子撞死了,這個銅像就是紀念她」
「68學運的時候,就是這個地方,你們學長用汽油彈打下一架警用直昇機」
這些都是真實的故事
德國的社會運動,街頭的衝組,最衝的是工會,IG Metal工會紅旗指向就是箭鋒的指向
,好像舞台劇悲慘世界那樣,不過學生會跑在箭頭之前。
我的同學,反核廢的時候跑去躺鐵軌,用手銬把自己和鐵軌銬起來;反新納粹的時候
跑到街頭築路障,新納粹遊行一靠近就點 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> hismallsix (微妙)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問卦] 請問有人認識他嗎?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Dec 6 14:14:59 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
剛剛不小心逛到的,發現他實在寫得太中肯!
自己實在太孤陋寡聞,不認識這位高手。有版友可以指點一二嗎?
<a href="http://0rz.tw/zopHV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://0rz.tw/zopHV</a>
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以下複製貼上
「學生好乖,部長來給你們檢查身體」.
Thorsten Lin 寫於 2012年12月5日21:06 ·
.
「學生好乖,部長來給你們檢查身體」
這標題好像下的有的聳動XDDDD
我進德國大學的時候,學長帶我們參觀校園
「這個黑板下的銅牌表示,XX老師在這個教室上課上到一半被納粹抓走」
「89年的時候一個學姐在這裡和警察對幹,被車子撞死了,這個銅像就是紀念她」
「68學運的時候,就是這個地方,你們學長用汽油彈打下一架警用直昇機」
這些都是真實的故事
德國的社會運動,街頭的衝組,最衝的是工會,IG Metal工會紅旗指向就是箭鋒的指向
,好像舞台劇悲慘世界那樣,不過學生會跑在箭頭之前。
我的同學,反核廢的時候跑去躺鐵軌,用手銬把自己和鐵軌銬起來;反新納粹的時候
跑到街頭築路障,新納粹遊行一靠近就點火,燒的滿城都是濃煙。當然不能不提68年
學運他們反媒體壟斷,當時的德國蔡衍明Axel Springer被學生惹怒了,用錢買了一個
殺手去暗殺學運領袖,結果學運領袖命大重傷沒死,憤怒的學生那天把全柏林的德國
旺旺送報車全部翻掉。
「你們台灣,也有學運嗎?」有次有個德國同學問我
「有啊只是和你們很不一樣」
我們的學運第一個就是要求參與的學生幼體化,絕對不能露出任何政治性象徵(
這裡的標點是政治‧性象徵,請不要讀錯謝謝),因為如果有人已經發育出政治性
象徵,那表示不純潔了、被幕後的政治黑手所操控、內情絕對不單純等等,那就表示
在政治意識型態上被嘟過了,被破處了,不萌不可愛了,「大人們」不喜歡這種。
我們的學運第二個要求就是「學生要有學生的樣子」,除了幼體化以外,訴求要帶
一點天真,掉一點書袋,微文青體最好,能引用後現代是極品。學生要溫良恭儉讓,
要尊敬師長,要孝順父母(對此「大人」們的大絕常常是通知家長去學運現場領回,
不聽就是不孝)。要保持清潔帶手帕衛生紙(媒體常常強調學運過後現場沒留下一片
垃圾)。一點點童真的調皮和放肆是可以的,這樣可以增加萌度,甚至顯示「大人們」
的氣量和高度,但越界撒野就不行了,一定要懲罰,調教也是蘿莉控的興趣之一。
如果學生能做到這兩點,滿足「大人們」心中對純潔學生幼體的意淫想像,那「大人們」
就不吝賞給純真可愛的學生們各種獎品。例如國是會議、接見握手等等,這通常是學運
最好的下場。而媒體通常會在學運的過程裡面扮演偷窺的角色,看看學生有沒有失貞,
有沒有被偷嘟,失掉了純潔性。如果發現某個政治黑手在學運現場出沒,就會像發現新
大陸一樣「抓到了」發頭條,顯示學運已經不純潔了。如果沒有,那就會讚賞他們
「超越政黨惡鬥」的守貞勇氣。
不得不說,不止「大人們」有這種意淫純潔幼體的期待,學生自己也常有意無意的配合。
已經長出政治性象徵的要夾起來或者壓平,已經被嘟過的要做處女/男重建手術。
歷次學運好幾次都設有「學生區」、「一般區」,把學生和社會支持人士區分開來,
還要圍上糾察線,防止非學生的假蘿莉正太混進去,破壞了學運的純潔性,「成年是一
種傳染病,純潔的幼體一旦染上這種病毒就墮落了、就被褻瀆了」,所以隔離是必須的。
另一方面,維持純潔性可以享受一點特權,可以犯錯,包含一點任性、一點放縱,
「大人們」嘴巴說不行,眼睛來還是會露出一絲微不可查的讚賞,媒體會幫忙講話:
「這麼可愛的孩子,再給他們一次機會吧」。
例如520農運的時候,聽說拖進警察局的都先分成學生和非學生,學生不會被打,
非學生的政治黑手和農民都被打的很慘。
不止學生和「大人們」,其實整個社會也有這種期待,你摸摸自己LP,你沒有這樣
意淫學生學運嗎?期待他們和工運、農運、同運、性工作者運那些不純潔的社運不
一樣?今天如果是一個檳榔西施在立院對內政部長說:「你說謊!你偽善!」,
大家會不會驚訝?恐怕驚訝的是檳榔西施居然會用「偽善」來幫「假仙」修辭吧?
所以用廢死的話來說,這大規模的全民戀童活動,你我都推了一把。
所以今天居然有學生不可愛了,不萌了,居然在議會殿堂學蠟筆小新露大象。
「大人們」和媒體都抓狂了,「怎麼會有這麼不可愛的孩子,這是不可饒恕的」;
學校也趕快道歉:「我們的學生居然做出這種不可愛的舉動,只好向社會大眾道歉了」
;媒體也趕快狗仔一把:「根據我們調查,該學生不止露小雞雞,他-還-長-毛-了!
,根本不是純潔的學生好嗎?」
「你們台灣,也有學運嗎?」我德國同學問我
「有啊,只是和你們很不一樣」我說
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<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ashuya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:殺小 </span> 12/06 14:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jeff0811</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這一篇很犀利 </span> 12/06 14:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dagayealo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:1冷卻,樓下幫我 </span> 12/06 14:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Doracacazin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一針見血 </span> 12/06 14:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">WenliYang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣教育 說穿了就是奴隸機器製造工廠 資方最喜歡 </span> 12/06 14:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">honoYang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這真的是要有腦才看得懂 </span> 12/06 14:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">birdy590</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:官員很多自機也是留洋的 問題是這種風氣他們不會帶回來 </span> 12/06 14:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">KobeKober</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跟國外學運比現在台灣學運跟營火晚會沒啥兩樣... </span> 12/06 14:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jeff0811</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國那個也是拼老命的 </span> 12/06 14:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ben101068</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ </span> 12/06 14:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hcyalex</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實台灣早期學運雖然沒鬧到像天安門那麼屌 但也蠻厲害了 </span> 12/06 14:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">stocktonty</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在台灣議題不重要 先調查這個人背景出身 成份純不純 </span> 12/06 14:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">stocktonty</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果抓到有特定背景就先打成黑五類 說什麼話都沒用了 </span> 12/06 14:23
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">Claypatterns</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:紅的明顯 這是好文但請你改個標題吧 目前的太含糊 </span> 12/06 14:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dryweed</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要敢衝撞體制 不然這些掌權的根本不知道要改 </span> 12/06 14:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">DeathTemp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得好 </span> 12/06 14:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shinmoner</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文 </span> 12/06 14:24
換這個標題好像聳動點XD
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: hismallsix 來自: 111.254.25.21 (12/06 14:25)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">soweina1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:教育部長嗎?會不會太過份了?這明顯是性騷擾了吧 </span> 12/06 14:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zone0317</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:優文 </span> 12/06 14:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kosh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文 </span> 12/06 14:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">westkid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文給推! </span> 12/06 14:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">MeFuxYou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文啦.. </span> 12/06 14:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">daniel3551</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我推 </span> 12/06 14:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Oldwood</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 14:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Tattoo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有種你回台灣搞啊 </span> 12/06 14:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">windwind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可以教一下怎麼打下直昇機嗎?! XDXD </span> 12/06 14:36
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">Tattoo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只會講國外多厲害,媽的你也是出張嘴 </span> 12/06 14:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pitt911</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣就是人民的聲音出不來才會狂被資方還有官方欺負 </span> 12/06 14:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">noabstersion</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得不錯啊~ </span> 12/06 14:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nekaki</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推 </span> 12/06 14:40
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">foxzz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:洪秀柱抓我奶 <a href="http://youtu.be/xjilfDiy2UU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/xjilfDiy2UU</a> </span> 12/06 14:43
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjilfDiy2UU" target="_blank"><strong>女立委嚷 「洪秀柱抓我奶」 立委又為開放陸生打架 遭批「國際笑話」 - YouTube</strong></a> 2010-04-27 立院教育委員會日前因審查陸生來台法案爆發肢體衝突,昨又為確認上次會議議事錄是否有效,再度拳腳相向,女立委抓奶、抱腿、鑽胯下樣樣來,對朝野荒腔走板的打架行為,婦女團體痛批立院做了最不好的示範,列席會議的教育部次長林聰明表示非常遺憾,也說這是「反教育」,恐成「國際笑話」。 不良示範 教委會二十一...</div></div>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: hismallsix 來自: 111.254.25.21 (12/06 15:33)</span>
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">turbomons</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:優文 </span> 12/06 17:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">VIGUTA</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:再度驗證台灣的國際形象 ---> "娘" </span> 12/06 17:56
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Derp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:\超中懇!!! </span> 12/06 18:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HIDEE</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不管藍綠,反壟斷媒體 明明就是對人民有利的..卻被洗腦..... </span> 12/06 18:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kiliman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:文筆真是犀利啊! </span> 12/06 18:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">faxy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只是和你們很不一樣 </span> 12/06 18:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Yie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 18:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sugarrax</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:很犀利,很多事你我都推了一把。。。這種教育該怎麼改? </span> 12/06 18:53
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wensday</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:後面論述那幾段可以上色 </span> 12/06 19:39
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">colorsplash</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 19:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Tamama56</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 12/06 19:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">four26</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真是淫蕩的文章 </span> 12/06 19:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">PlayPtt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大人 : 沒禮貌喔..要先禮貌後程序. 實體等您選上再來講 </span> 12/06 19:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kingsinger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文大推 </span> 12/06 19:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sxoao</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:補推這篇 </span> 12/06 19:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">binsho</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 12/06 19:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bordergogo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大推 </span> 12/06 20:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">halulu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:他是鄉民唷 </span> 12/06 20:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">buderM</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 20:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">halulu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:作者昨天寫完還跟我家得意很久 </span> 12/06 20:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gunfighter</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推一個 明明訴求是正確的事 卻要怕被染上顏色 悲哀阿 </span> 12/06 20:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sony0955</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:c好聞 推 </span> 12/06 20:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gt5</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫太好 </span> 12/06 20:57
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">asole</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 21:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Oldwood</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 21:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cmit13</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推~ </span> 12/06 21:15
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">hatako</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至某隱形看板</span> 12/06 21:18</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dixieland999</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:民族性的差異...台灣人連自己是哪國人都不知道,期待 </span> 12/06 21:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dixieland999</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:他們有自信,團結力跟衝勁是不可能的... </span> 12/06 21:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CHOCOLATER00</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇文筆很犀利~~~ 哈哈哈 </span> 12/06 21:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">GustavSo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GOOD! </span> 12/06 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kshtainan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 22:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ayinie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文!!! </span> 12/06 22:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ETTom</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得滿好的阿 給推~ </span> 12/06 22:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">whitezealman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 12/06 22:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">biup2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我被督過了>///< </span> 12/06 22:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">erahappy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得真好..好文給推 </span> 12/06 22:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">akayan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 12/06 23:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">JomboCA</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推 </span> 12/06 23:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Refauth</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得好!! </span> 12/06 23:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shikiDS</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推! </span> 12/06 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yamapi198549</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 12/06 23:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zofloya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 12/06 23:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Sarnux</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:猛到爆! </span> 12/07 00:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">grapetea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!好文! </span> 12/07 01:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dc871213</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 12/07 01:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Bluebear</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文不寂寞 </span> 12/07 01:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yung80111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 12/07 02:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Sousake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:push </span> 12/07 02:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">costello</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:論點好犀利! 直指台灣對待學運的不合理處~ 突破盲點!超讚 </span> 12/07 03:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">darkofpolo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈! 推! </span> 12/07 10:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">minbyminby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 </span> 12/08 00:42
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">davidhavefun</span><span style="color:#808000">:文章寫的好,真是個當記者的料</span></div></pre>
morris_hope
【分享】老板終於知道廢死聯盟為什麼要廢死了
http://disp.cc/b/254-4Jc6
2012-12-05T13:04:39+08:00
2012-12-05T13:45:47+08:00
http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=1296371&tnum=120
剛剛在某網站討論區某老闆發表給廢死聯盟的話,內容如下
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本人是一個專業的早餐店老闆,利用空檔閱讀店內的報紙,也是非常平常的事!
首先,關於廢死聯盟的執行長:林欣怡小姐,我認為,你必須向全國弱勢族群公開道歉!
你的死刑犯都是弱勢這等言論,已經嚴重侮辱到弱勢族群,弱勢族群沈默,不代表你就可以這樣侮辱他們!
枉費你自命清高,自以為聖人般的開示大家要原諒、要正面思考,這番侮辱弱勢的論調,就是你的水準嗎?
我為什麼會講這個?因為這樣的行為,跟殺人犯沒兩樣,只差在輕重上而已,
殺人犯殺人,是為了自我滿足,而你用這番論調侮辱弱勢,也是為了自我滿足,所以我可以這樣說嗎?
廢死聯盟=殺人犯
你會覺得我在侮辱你嗎?如果會,就該明白自己應該出來道歉,不是裝的一副聖人樣,卻做出有 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> FW </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> morris_hope (迷途小書僮)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> 【分享】老板終於知道廢死聯盟為什麼要廢死了<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年12月05日 Wed. PM 01:04:39</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=1296371&tnum=120" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=1296371&tnum=120</a>
剛剛在某網站討論區某老闆發表給廢死聯盟的話,內容如下
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
本人是一個專業的早餐店老闆,利用空檔閱讀店內的報紙,也是非常平常的事!
首先,關於廢死聯盟的執行長:林欣怡小姐,我認為,你必須向全國弱勢族群公開道歉!
你的死刑犯都是弱勢這等言論,已經嚴重侮辱到弱勢族群,弱勢族群沈默,不代表你就可以這樣侮辱他們!
枉費你自命清高,自以為聖人般的開示大家要原諒、要正面思考,這番侮辱弱勢的論調,就是你的水準嗎?
我為什麼會講這個?因為這樣的行為,跟殺人犯沒兩樣,只差在輕重上而已,
殺人犯殺人,是為了自我滿足,而你用這番論調侮辱弱勢,也是為了自我滿足,所以我可以這樣說嗎?
<span style="color:#F00000">廢死聯盟=殺人犯</span>
你會覺得我在侮辱你嗎?如果會,就該明白自己應該出來道歉,不是裝的一副聖人樣,卻做出有失水準的事來!
老板為什麼會憤怒,因為我周邊就有很多弱勢族群,他們多數都是善良、單純,只為了在社會上生存,
與你我沒有什麼不同,差別就只有身體上、經濟上,拿我一位客人來說,他是身體上的弱勢,他必須坐
在電動輪椅上,但他沒有自我放棄,每天晚上都跑去夜市裡賣花,而他的老板,對他也非常好,你有看
過老板幫員工買中餐,還告訴我說:阿慶比較挑嘴,所以我都買他喜歡吃的給他吃。
而老板自己本身,曾經就是經濟弱勢族群,現在我過得很好,不表示我可以默默看著你如此侮辱人
老板的父親,嚴重酗酒家暴者,從小由母親帶大,歷經過房子被法拍,家中存款加現金不到一萬塊
是!老板沒唸書,你可以說我不學無術,但老板的母親是這樣教育我的,窮!沒關係,我們還是要保有志氣與尊嚴!
我的母親靠著兩份工作養育我,從沒申請過低收入戶、清寒補助,甚至我去當兵有補助金也不知道要申請
而這句殺人犯都是弱勢,讓我感覺你把弱勢都當成會去作奸犯科一樣,我沒有很高的社經地位、也沒有很高的學歷
更不是公眾人物,我只是一個賣早餐的年輕人,我同情加害人的身世憐憫,但我不認同他們可以用此當藉口作奸犯科
更無法認同你將弱勢與罪犯劃上等號!
在你高談闊論的講述著廢死多麼神聖時,請你收起你那歧視與侮辱的論調!
我可以包容你那充滿矛盾的論點,縱使我不支持!
我從沒忘記過自己曾是弱勢,縱使我現在不是!
但請你記得,人的尊嚴與志氣是不容許你如此踐踏,就算他只是與你不相干的弱勢族群!
此篇獻給廢死聯盟執行長:林欣怡&網路中的廢死聯盟成員及其支持者。
<span style="color:#008000">在下真的覺得此番見解真是精闢、字字珠璣阿!!!</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: morris_hope 時間: 2012-12-05 13:04:39</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">captain33</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒有理由,就是推!</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
Fw: [心得] Facebook被盜導致信用卡被盜刷
http://disp.cc/b/254-4J8z
2012-12-02T21:42:11+08:00
2012-12-05T10:38:11+08:00
雖然說為了驗證 Facebook 開發者身分,
而在上面留下了信用卡的資料,
這種疏失對我來說也實在不應該,
不過一來我很驚訝 Facebook 竟然完全不用再驗證就可以消費;
二來我申請 Facebook 純粹是為了開發程式所需,
這個帳號申請也不過 4~5 個月,
登入次數甚至沒超過 10 次,
最後一次登入離被盜的日期應該也有 1~2 月...,
這樣也能被盜帳號...;
更甚至 Facebook 在許多的帳號安全、登入紀錄等,
竟然都得使用者自行啟用,
實在令人無言...。
被盜刷的是中信卡,
前後大概歷經了 3~4 個禮拜,
接到刷卡簡訊通知的當日我剛好員工旅遊回來,
根本不可能上網在 Facebook 刷卡,
而且還是我從來沒有開啟過的「開心水族箱」,
被刷了 3000 多元。
我立刻照簡訊上所寫的撥打卡片背面的電話,
告知銀行我的信用卡被盜刷,
客服人員除了基本的詢問我是否有將卡片交給其他人使用,
和確認爭議款項後,
就立即告知此卡片已經設定無效,並請我剪卡,
新的卡片會在近日寄達。
Facebook 也有回報機制,
我也立刻將這個問題回報給 Facebook,
請他們協 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Facebook </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Fw: [心得] Facebook被盜導致信用卡被盜刷<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Dec 2 21:42:11 2012</div><hr color="#008080" /><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> creditcard </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [心得] Facebook被盜導致信用卡被盜刷<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Dec 2 21:40:51 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
雖然說為了驗證 Facebook 開發者身分,
而在上面留下了信用卡的資料,
這種疏失對我來說也實在不應該,
不過一來我很驚訝 Facebook 竟然完全不用再驗證就可以消費;
二來我申請 Facebook 純粹是為了開發程式所需,
這個帳號申請也不過 4~5 個月,
登入次數甚至沒超過 10 次,
最後一次登入離被盜的日期應該也有 1~2 月...,
這樣也能被盜帳號...;
更甚至 Facebook 在許多的帳號安全、登入紀錄等,
竟然都得使用者自行啟用,
實在令人無言...。
被盜刷的是中信卡,
前後大概歷經了 3~4 個禮拜,
接到刷卡簡訊通知的當日我剛好員工旅遊回來,
根本不可能上網在 Facebook 刷卡,
而且還是我從來沒有開啟過的「開心水族箱」,
被刷了 3000 多元。
我立刻照簡訊上所寫的撥打卡片背面的電話,
告知銀行我的信用卡被盜刷,
客服人員除了基本的詢問我是否有將卡片交給其他人使用,
和確認爭議款項後,
就立即告知此卡片已經設定無效,並請我剪卡,
新的卡片會在近日寄達。
Facebook 也有回報機制,
我也立刻將這個問題回報給 Facebook,
請他們協助處理,
我也立刻修改了登入密碼,
並且清除了上面可能被利用的個人資料。
有趣的是,在我修改了帳號密碼後,
立刻收到一封寄件者可疑的 email,
「Here's what's happening on Facebook」
內容完全仿照 Facebook 的風格,
但是寄件者還有 email 中的連結卻跟 Facebook 扯不上關係,
讓我更確認被盜的事實。
拿到新卡、開卡的過程就不提了,
在調查期間,
銀行會先將爭議款項的金額退款,
值得注意的,除了我回報的 Facebook 項目,
他還另外列了另外一筆消費為爭議款項,
我有去電客服詢問,
他們說明這是由系統判斷調減項目,
原因是消費金額接近,
如果確定為本人消費會再次將消費入帳。
隔沒幾天 Facebook 就回覆已經確認帳號有異常活動,
除了進行退款以外,同時也暫時關閉帳號,
請我再次登入驗證身分來取回帳號。
可能 Facebook 也已經回應給銀行,
我在未入帳的帳單上除了看到 Facebook 的退款,
也同時看到銀行再入帳的訊息,
因為爭議款項會先抵銷該金額,
所以 Facebook 退款時就必須再入帳才能打平。
銀行寄來最後需要簽署的書面文件,
內容是簽署爭議款項的處理,
表示同意受理銀行針對該款項的處理方式,
除了一些規定,也列出了我在 Facebook 的爭議款項,
署名後必須傳真給銀行。
隔天銀行電話確認收到文件傳真,
並且確認系統增列的另一筆調減項目是我本人消費,
告知此款項會再次入帳,
我也於今日收到該款項入帳的書面通知,
整個事件告一段落。
除了遊戲橘子的遊戲帳號被盜過(雖然僅是損失道具),
這是我第二次網路上的身分被盜用,
也是我首次實質上有損失的一次,
在這裡分享這個過程。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 轉錄者: yukitowu (114.34.74.105), 時間: 12/02/2012 21:42:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hihieveryone</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:拍拍 ...鑽漏洞的人無所不在 =.= </span> 12/02 21:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">thorstan1234</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這應該收錄精華區嗎 .. </span> 12/02 22:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ichch</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我不太懂 盜帳號買的商品也是被盜帳號的使用者才能使用 </span> 12/02 23:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ichch</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:偷別人帳號買元寶 有甚麼作用? 拿來養魚嗎? </span> 12/02 23:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:@ichch>我並不清楚開水的遊戲是怎麼運作的 買來的東西 </span> 12/03 00:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:能不能當贈品送我也不清楚 不過整個操作流程就是在開啟 </span> 12/03 00:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:遊戲後10分鐘內 就完成購買的動作... 畢竟是要處理掉的 </span> 12/03 00:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我還點進去研究這東西買來做啥用的話... 很怕無法撇清啊w </span> 12/03 00:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">GodzillaLee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:應該是拿到資料做盜刷吧@@? FB應該沒有限定已做過登 </span> 12/03 03:35
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">GodzillaLee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:錄過的資料才能消費吧 </span> 12/03 03:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">METHOLOGY</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:贈送? </span> 12/03 04:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:@GodzillaLee>其他人我不清楚 至少我是FB的開水被開啟後 </span> 12/03 10:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:刷卡消費 FB也有將消費通知寄給我 所以我可以確定並不是 </span> 12/03 10:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:信用卡的資料在其他地方外流 </span> 12/03 10:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">laechan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我想起當初為了買呆鵝的廉價筆電也給了信用卡卡號,結果同 </span> 12/03 11:48
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">laechan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樣是不需要再驗證,話說呆鵝事件到底有沒有告詐取個資成功? </span> 12/03 11:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">redorange</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要記得把交易付款裡面的資料刪掉啊 </span> 12/04 02:48
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yukitowu
[Disp] undefined
http://disp.cc/b/254-4IIK
2012-12-04T09:56:32+08:00
2012-12-04T10:00:04+08:00
有點怪,
現在閱讀文章似乎遇到某些狀況就會清掉整個畫面,
只留下 undefined 的字眼,
還找不到規則。
好像連有些按鈕都有問題。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [Disp] undefined<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年12月04日 Tue. AM 09:56:32</div><hr color="#008080" />
有點怪,
現在閱讀文章似乎遇到某些狀況就會清掉整個畫面,
只留下 undefined 的字眼,
還找不到規則。
好像連有些按鈕都有問題。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-12-04 09:56:32</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: yukitowu 時間: 2012-12-04 10:00:04</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在進版畫面 沒辦法點進入看板的按鈕</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:新做好的捲軸也不見了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:回列表好像也怪怪的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在連進看板也有機會undefined</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:捲軸回來了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:喔 好像都正常了</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[Disp] 個人信箱
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GP0
2012-11-27T17:51:56+08:00
2012-11-27T17:52:05+08:00
跟我上一篇 PO 的登入有點像,
不過這次是在個人信箱裡,
用大 T 選取信件之後,
滑鼠點選「d)刪除」沒有反應,(btw, 這邊的排版擠在一起了)
但是按小 d 可以刪除。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DispBug </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [Disp] 個人信箱<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月27日 Tue. PM 05:51:56</div><hr color="#008080" />
跟我上一篇 PO 的登入有點像,
不過這次是在個人信箱裡,
用大 T 選取信件之後,
滑鼠點選「d)刪除」沒有反應,(btw, 這邊的排版擠在一起了)
但是按小 d 可以刪除。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-27 17:51:56</span>
</div></pre>
HorusADe
[新聞] 讓工程師心有慼慼焉的 10 大開發建議,創業家更要讀!
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GOZ
2012-11-27T15:32:14+08:00
2012-11-27T17:22:23+08:00
資安軟體公司 Palo Alto Software 創辦人 Tim Berry,在《Small Business America》網站上發表文章,針對創業家、構想提出者的這個角度,提出 10 點建議。
先介紹一下 Tim Berry 這個人吧。他在軟體產業已經有 30 多年的歷史,在這領域曾扮演過構想提出者、程式開發人員,以及專業諮詢顧問等角色。從自身經歷中,他發現自己在這軟體業看過太多充滿創意的構想者,野心勃勃地捧著他們的計畫到程式開發人員面前,最後,又眼睜睜看著這些數不盡的創業家,潰敗在程式開發的現實面上,成了一具具沖刷在夢想沙灘上的無名屍。
以下分享他的軟體創業建議:
1. 軟體是一種妥協下的產物(Software is usually a compromise)
你夢想中要開發的產品是一回事,但事實上能不能做到又是另外一回事。真正的產品開發者,應該懂得和現實做出妥協;重點是把產品做出來,不要僵在那邊。
2. 打開你的耳朵(You have to listen)
不要老是以為程式開發人員都把你的話當耳邊風,反過來,你應該去傾聽與瞭解程式開發人員的思考模式,包括他的構思原因,以及程 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> HorusADe<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [新聞] 讓工程師心有慼慼焉的 10 大開發建議,創業家更要讀!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月27日 Tue. PM 03:32:14</div><hr color="#008080" />
資安軟體公司 Palo Alto Software 創辦人 Tim Berry,在《Small Business America》網站上發表文章,針對創業家、構想提出者的這個角度,提出 10 點建議。
先介紹一下 Tim Berry 這個人吧。他在軟體產業已經有 30 多年的歷史,在這領域曾扮演過構想提出者、程式開發人員,以及專業諮詢顧問等角色。從自身經歷中,他發現自己在這軟體業看過太多充滿創意的構想者,野心勃勃地捧著他們的計畫到程式開發人員面前,最後,又眼睜睜看著這些數不盡的創業家,潰敗在程式開發的現實面上,成了一具具沖刷在夢想沙灘上的無名屍。
以下分享他的軟體創業建議:
1. 軟體是一種妥協下的產物(Software is usually a compromise)
你夢想中要開發的產品是一回事,但事實上能不能做到又是另外一回事。真正的產品開發者,應該懂得和現實做出妥協;重點是把產品做出來,不要僵在那邊。
2. 打開你的耳朵(You have to listen)
不要老是以為程式開發人員都把你的話當耳邊風,反過來,你應該去傾聽與瞭解程式開發人員的思考模式,包括他的構思原因,以及程式開發的侷限在哪?
3. 體會你與程式開發人員間的結構關係(Understand critical relationship factors)
程式開發人員是你的合夥人,或只是你付錢請他來寫寫程式,這兩種結構關係真的差很大!
程式開發絕對不是一件簡單的工作,尤其是在一開始時,必須要大量的腦力激盪與討論,相當耗費心力,如果你希望花錢找個程式開發人員,然後一切都照著你的意思去做,那,失敗的機會真的很大,建議你重新去讀上面的第 1、2 條法則。
4. 誰擁有最終產品?(Who owns the product)
和程式開發人員談這個問題有點尷尬,或甚至讓你感到不舒服,但為了建立一個穩固的企業體,你不得不為之。
原文作者的建議是:讓成品屬於你自己吧,因為帳單都是你付的。
5. 計價的標準應該是成果而非時間(Pay for results, not hours)
事前別支付太多、與程式開發人員共同設立目標,並且只為最終結果買單;這是原文作者經歷過談判桌上雙方角色的經驗之談。
6. 辨識程式開發人員的心態(Identify which developer personality is which)
有些程式開發人員的心態很不穩定,有時候想要當老闆賺大錢、有時候只想有穩定安全的生活、有時候又想當個大人物需要很多權力,什麼都要有掌控權、有的時候又什麼都不想管,只想好好放假連電話都不想接。
這時候你需要搞清楚的是,你的程式開發人員現在正處於何種狀態下,順著毛摸,讓他把工作完成,和他硬碰硬絕對不是聰明的主意。
7. 清楚程式開發人員的來歷(Know your developer)
在僱用前先清楚調查底細,如果有認識的推薦人選,或者有共事經驗的人會更好。
程式開發人員都很聰明,但不一定會對你忠心耿耿,看看《社群網戰》那部電影,你就會明白原文筆者的意思。
8. 設計一個有可行里程碑的專案(Design an early check-in point into the project)
不要把整個專案綁在一起打一個大約,把它切開來,一部分一部分去簽約、去推動。
9. 明確的權利歸屬文件(Get the key points in writing)
這並不是指一分多大的合約,或者多正式的法律文件,短短的備忘錄或簡單幾句話,表明哪個部分程式的權利屬於誰,日後會減少許多爭議。
10. 記住!你就像哥倫布!(Remember the dragons)
哥倫布當初規劃到亞洲的印度群島去,看準了天象、定好了羅盤,誰想得到最後發現了新大陸?程式開發也是如此,你會到達的地方,可能往往和你一開始想得並不相同。
(資料來源:SmallBusinessAmerica;圖片來源:Enokson, CC Licensed)
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: HorusADe 時間: 2012-11-27 15:32:14</span>
</div></pre>
yukitowu
Re: [灌水] 別想再叫我碰 Facebook 開發
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GOY
2012-11-22T14:36:52+08:00
2012-11-22T14:36:52+08:00
Facebook 的退費也已經入帳了,
信用卡發卡公司也已經確認爭議款項,
Facebook 上當時用來驗證身分的手機跟信用卡我都清掉了,
整個盜用的事件應該是告一段落了。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [灌水] 別想再叫我碰 Facebook 開發<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月22日 Thu. PM 02:36:52</div><hr color="#008080" />
Facebook 的退費也已經入帳了,
信用卡發卡公司也已經確認爭議款項,
Facebook 上當時用來驗證身分的手機跟信用卡我都清掉了,
整個盜用的事件應該是告一段落了。
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《yukitowu》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 看來至少還能給我一個交代,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: Facebook 這邊已經通知退費了,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 帳號也已經鎖住了。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 你的帳號目前暫時被鎖住了。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 看來有人存取了你的帳號,因此我們暫時鎖上了你的帳號以保持安全。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 為了你的隱私著想,在封鎖期間,沒有人可以看到你的帳號。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 如要解除封鎖,你可能要先通過安全檢查。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 注意,企圖進入他人帳號違反了 Facebook 使用條款。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 同時,也可能是觸法行為。如果你不是 [我],請按「取消」。</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-22 14:36:52</span>
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yukitowu
[灌水] Dropbox 有 PDF 預覽呢
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GOX
2012-11-22T14:24:51+08:00
2012-11-22T14:24:51+08:00
剛剛有人用 Dropbox 供 PDF 檔,
我才發現原來用 Dropbox 也可以預覽 PDF 呢。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] Dropbox 有 PDF 預覽呢<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月22日 Thu. PM 02:24:51</div><hr color="#008080" />
剛剛有人用 Dropbox 供 PDF 檔,
我才發現原來用 Dropbox 也可以預覽 PDF 呢。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-22 14:24:51</span>
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yukitowu
[Disp] 登入流程
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GOW
2012-11-14T10:16:49+08:00
2012-11-14T10:16:57+08:00
輸入帳號確認後,
如果沒有輸入密碼,
移動滑鼠去點"確定(Enter)",
跳出 alert 的 "請輸入密碼!",
按下確認後會被 JavaScript 清空畫面然後顯示"0"。
用鍵盤[ENTER]的話不會。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> DispBug </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [DISP] 登入流程<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月14日 Wed. AM 10:16:49</div><hr color="#008080" />
輸入帳號確認後,
如果沒有輸入密碼,
移動滑鼠去點"確定(Enter)",
跳出 alert 的 "請輸入密碼!",
按下確認後會被 JavaScript 清空畫面然後顯示"0"。
用鍵盤[ENTER]的話不會。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-14 10:16:49</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:已修正</span>
</div></pre>
yukitowu
Re: [灌水] 別想再叫我碰 Facebook 開發
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GOV
2012-11-13T10:19:16+08:00
2012-11-13T10:54:02+08:00
看來至少還能給我一個交代,
Facebook 這邊已經通知退費了,
帳號也已經鎖住了。
你的帳號目前暫時被鎖住了。
看來有人存取了你的帳號,因此我們暫時鎖上了你的帳號以保持安全。
為了你的隱私著想,在封鎖期間,沒有人可以看到你的帳號。
如要解除封鎖,你可能要先通過安全檢查。
注意,企圖進入他人帳號違反了 Facebook 使用條款。
同時,也可能是觸法行為。如果你不是 [我],請按「取消」。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [灌水] 別想再叫我碰 Facebook 開發<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月13日 Tue. AM 10:19:16</div><hr color="#008080" />
看來至少還能給我一個交代,
Facebook 這邊已經通知退費了,
帳號也已經鎖住了。
你的帳號目前暫時被鎖住了。
看來有人存取了你的帳號,因此我們暫時鎖上了你的帳號以保持安全。
為了你的隱私著想,在封鎖期間,沒有人可以看到你的帳號。
如要解除封鎖,你可能要先通過安全檢查。
注意,企圖進入他人帳號違反了 Facebook 使用條款。
同時,也可能是觸法行為。如果你不是 [我],請按「取消」。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-13 10:19:16</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-13 10:54:02</span>
</div></pre>
yukitowu
[灌水] 別想再叫我碰 Facebook 開發
http://disp.cc/b/254-4GOU
2012-11-12T00:04:20+08:00
2012-11-12T00:05:31+08:00
完全不知道為什麼就被啟動開心水族箱,
然後刷了 3000 元台幣的點數,
不管是途徑還是什麼的,
竟然完全沒有紀錄,
還要「手動設定」才會記錄帳號行為,
這是三小!?
只因為我之前在驗證開發者身分有用過信用卡,
這樣就可以購點!?
會不會太誇張!?
更白癡的是,
他驗證沒過啊!
他喵的以後別想再叫我碰 Facebook 的開發! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] 別想再叫我碰 Facebook 開發<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月12日 Mon. AM 12:04:19</div><hr color="#008080" />
完全不知道為什麼就被啟動開心水族箱,
然後刷了 3000 元台幣的點數,
不管是途徑還是什麼的,
竟然完全沒有紀錄,
還要「手動設定」才會記錄帳號行為,
這是三小!?
只因為我之前在驗證開發者身分有用過信用卡,
這樣就可以購點!?
會不會太誇張!?
更白癡的是,
他驗證沒過啊!
他喵的以後別想再叫我碰 Facebook 的開發!
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-12 00:04:19</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-12 00:05:31</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">abc1231qa</span><span style="color:#808000">:太可怕了 有點想研究這怎麼騙錢的.........</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:我倒不是被騙... 我應該是帳號整個被盜</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:說"應該"是因為FB沒有預設開啟登入紀錄 不知道是從正常的管道登入 還是從漏洞搞鬼</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為整個行為是先啟動"開心水族箱"的遊戲服務 然後嘗試刷點"3X元新台幣"後 再進一步刷了"29XX元 新台幣" 只是因為有簡訊通知 馬上就被我發現 通知銀行列入爭議款項了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:純粹因為持有FB的權限就可以任意消費 FB的設計實在恐怖...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:跟之前Android只要儲存信用卡就可以任意消費的設計一樣恐怖...</span>
</div></pre>
in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7s
2012-11-29T11:23:59+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:18+08:00
話說我們家之前有一組 netapp FAS2040, 有 36 顆 SAS 15krpm,
有一回我跟公司某位 mis 抱怨,
在做某個動作的時候會有點慢,
他第一個的反應是 "該換 FAS3000 系列了"
之前在某個地方看到某 SI 在講兩個 filer 對 copy,
用一個很扯的速度 (好像例如說是 48 顆對 48 顆, 然後在 20MBps)
而他覺得這個是正常的, 本來就需要這麼久.
我覺得 SI 手上的武器有限, 只能這樣子出招:
覺得 filer 慢? 那一定是你買的頭太小, 換大一點的頭吧!
不然就是硬碟太慢, 那就是加個 SSD 的 cache,
還是慢的話那就只會是你的網路不夠力, 全部上 10GbE 試看看吧!
或是直接用他們在其他地方的經驗給很怪的答案:
你說是一百人的網路公司? 不要懷疑, 就是 FAS3220 + 4 個 DS4243 裡面放 2TB*24.
我會建議頭買大一點, 例如說 FAS3250 比較夠用
當有了一個頭之後, 例如說 FAS2240 裡面可以放 24 顆硬碟,
覺得空間不夠還是怎樣想要再加買 2 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> in2 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> in2 (晚安 地球人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: L2 & L3<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Nov 29 11:23:59 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: ※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: : → joncetn:長輩這段沒有SI的工程師幫忙喔~ 這個自己幹太苦了..</span>
話說我們家之前有一組 netapp FAS2040, 有 36 顆 SAS 15krpm,
有一回我跟公司某位 mis 抱怨,
在做某個動作的時候會有點慢,
他第一個的反應是 "該換 FAS3000 系列了"
之前在某個地方看到某 SI 在講兩個 filer 對 copy,
用一個很扯的速度 (好像例如說是 48 顆對 48 顆, 然後在 20MBps)
而他覺得這個是正常的, 本來就需要這麼久.
我覺得 SI 手上的武器有限, 只能這樣子出招:
覺得 filer 慢? 那一定是你買的頭太小, 換大一點的頭吧!
不然就是硬碟太慢, 那就是加個 SSD 的 cache,
還是慢的話那就只會是你的網路不夠力, 全部上 10GbE 試看看吧!
或是直接用他們在其他地方的經驗給很怪的答案:
你說是一百人的網路公司? 不要懷疑, 就是 FAS3220 + 4 個 DS4243 裡面放 2TB*24.
我會建議頭買大一點, 例如說 FAS3250 比較夠用
當有了一個頭之後, 例如說 FAS2240 裡面可以放 24 顆硬碟,
覺得空間不夠還是怎樣想要再加買 24 顆硬碟,
結果發現, 重買一組含頭的 FAS2240 , 比單買硬碟櫃還要便宜(!!)
所以是頭的錢是負的嗎? XD
如果跟他說那再買另外一個 FAS2240 好了, 對方就會說:
沒有人這樣子搞的啦
<span style="color:#FFF">*囧*</span>
一類一類的 Orz
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▂ <span style="color:#800000">▄▆▄▁</span> <span style="color:#008000">▃▄</span> <span style="color:#008000">▂</span> <span style="color:#008000">▃</span> <span style="color:#800000">▇▆▄▂</span> <span style="color:#800000">▇▄▅</span> <span style="color:#000080">▅▃▄ </span>
<div class="ansi_group"><div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#808000">║ </span>◢<span style="color:#800080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">◢ </span></span><span style="background-color:#800000"> ▅◣</span> <span style="color:#FFF"> ▄ </span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▋</span></span><span style="color:#008000">◣▌◢◣</span> <span style="color:#008000">▃▄</span> <span style="background-color:#008000"> </span> <span style="color:#008000">▆█</span> <span style="color:#800000">◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◤ ◣▋ <span style="color:#000080"> ▊ </span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">好 </span>◥<span style="color:#800080">◤<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800000">▂ </span></span></span><span style="color:#800080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">▅▃ </span></span><span style="background-color:#800000">▍</span><span style="color:#800000">▃<span style="color:#FFF">█◤ </span></span><span style="color:#008000">◣▍◤◢ ▃▄◥▎<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▌</span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▂</span> <span style="color:#800000">▊</span> <span style="color:#800000">▇▅█▄▌<span style="color:#000080"> ▌ </span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">硬 <span style="color:#FFF">◥<span style="background-color:#800000">█▇<span style="background-color:#800080">█</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800080">▁<span style="background-color:#C0C0C0"> </span></span></span> <span style="color:#000080">▆ <span style="color:#008000">▄◢▃◥◤ ▃◣◥<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▊▌</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">◤ <span style="color:#800000">◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#800000">◤</span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800000">▍</span></span><span style="color:#800000">▄<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">▅▊<span style="color:#000080"> ▊<span style="color:#FFF">▆</span></span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">兔 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">║</span></span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">▊ </span></span><span style="color:#F00000">'</span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">_ </span></span><span style="color:#F00000">'</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">▊ <span style="color:#000080"> ▋ <span style="color:#008000"> ▃<span style="background-color:#008000"> </span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▃ ◢▅▄◢<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▅▂▄</span></span></span> <span style="background-color:#800000"> </span><span style="color:#F0F000"> ◥ </span><span style="color:#800000">◣ <span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◣<span style="color:#F0F000">◣ <span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0"> ◥</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#FFF">◤</span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#808000">║ <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">≡(</span></span></span> =<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">◣ ▼ ◢</span></span>= <span style="color:#000080">▊ <span style="color:#008000">▃<span style="background-color:#008000"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▃▃<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▊</span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▅◤<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▋▅▂▄</span></span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800000">◤▃▁◥</span></span><span style="color:#800000"> ◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◥▆◤<span style="color:#000080">▄<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">( </span></span></span></span></div>
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in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7t
2012-11-29T00:11:09+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:19+08:00
開始被某長輩推薦 EX4200 / EX3200 了... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> in2 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> in2 (晚安 地球人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: L2 & L3<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Nov 29 00:11:09 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
開始被某長輩推薦 EX4200 / EX3200 了...
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▂ <span style="color:#800000">▄▆▄▁</span> <span style="color:#008000">▃▄</span> <span style="color:#008000">▂</span> <span style="color:#008000">▃</span> <span style="color:#800000">▇▆▄▂</span> <span style="color:#800000">▇▄▅</span> <span style="color:#000080">▅▃▄ </span>
<div class="ansi_group"><div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#808000">║ </span>◢<span style="color:#800080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">◢ </span></span><span style="background-color:#800000"> ▅◣</span> <span style="color:#FFF"> ▄ </span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▋</span></span><span style="color:#008000">◣▌◢◣</span> <span style="color:#008000">▃▄</span> <span style="background-color:#008000"> </span> <span style="color:#008000">▆█</span> <span style="color:#800000">◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◤ ◣▋ <span style="color:#000080"> ▊ </span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">好 </span>◥<span style="color:#800080">◤<span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#800000">▂ </span></span></span><span style="color:#800080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">▅▃ </span></span><span style="background-color:#800000">▍</span><span style="color:#800000">▃<span style="color:#FFF">█◤ </span></span><span style="color:#008000">◣▍◤◢ ▃▄◥▎<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▌</span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▂</span> <span style="color:#800000">▊</span> <span style="color:#800000">▇▅█▄▌<span style="color:#000080"> ▌ </span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">硬 <span style="color:#FFF">◥<span style="background-color:#800000">█▇<span style="background-color:#800080">█</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800080">▁<span style="background-color:#C0C0C0"> </span></span></span> <span style="color:#000080">▆ <span style="color:#008000">▄◢▃◥◤ ▃◣◥<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▊▌</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">◤ <span style="color:#800000">◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#800000">◤</span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800000">▍</span></span><span style="color:#800000">▄<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">▅▊<span style="color:#000080"> ▊<span style="color:#FFF">▆</span></span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">兔 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">║</span></span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">▊ </span></span><span style="color:#F00000">'</span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">_ </span></span><span style="color:#F00000">'</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">▊ <span style="color:#000080"> ▋ <span style="color:#008000"> ▃<span style="background-color:#008000"> </span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▃ ◢▅▄◢<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▅▂▄</span></span></span> <span style="background-color:#800000"> </span><span style="color:#F0F000"> ◥ </span><span style="color:#800000">◣ <span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◣<span style="color:#F0F000">◣ <span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0"> ◥</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#FFF">◤</span></div>
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in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7r
2012-11-28T23:22:16+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:18+08:00
有人提到 SI 了, 那我想講一下我對 SI 的態度 XD
之前聽某 SI 抱怨另外某公司,
說那個公司讓 SI 的功能好像就只剩下價錢, 價錢, 還是價錢,
那位 SI 就覺得自己好像不該只是這樣子的功能... XD
假設星期五 18:00 設爆了 uplink 那台,
打電話給 SI , SI 說你是簽 5*8 的合約, 請星期一早上再來,
娃...
那就是倒站兩天?
今天就算是簽了 7*24 ,
先收了比較多錢,
如果需要他幫忙的時候,
剛好有另外更大的客戶把人力佔住了,
一樣是沒有人可以過來幫忙.
就算他真的有人手可以過來幫忙,
他們大部份都只能碰到很片面的,
可能某個只對 netapp 熟, 某個只對 cisco 熟,
咦, 但是某個問題可能是 app 層的問題,
例如說, 看到跑 php 的 cpu 用滿了, 其實是 apc 忘了開,
但是他只會推薦你買更多更快的 cpu,
例如說把 mysqld or memcached 和 php 放在不同的 L2,
打爆了 L3 設備, 他只會推薦你買更強大的 L3.
這根本都不是正解啊 @_@
再舉個例子,
我們家第一次採購 cis ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> in2 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> in2 (晚安 地球人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: L2 & L3<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Nov 28 23:22:16 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: → joncetn:長輩這段沒有SI的工程師幫忙喔~ 這個自己幹太苦了..</span>
有人提到 SI 了, 那我想講一下我對 SI 的態度 XD
之前聽某 SI 抱怨另外某公司,
說那個公司讓 SI 的功能好像就只剩下價錢, 價錢, 還是價錢,
那位 SI 就覺得自己好像不該只是這樣子的功能... XD
假設星期五 18:00 設爆了 uplink 那台,
打電話給 SI , SI 說你是簽 5*8 的合約, 請星期一早上再來,
娃...
那就是倒站兩天?
今天就算是簽了 7*24 ,
先收了比較多錢,
如果需要他幫忙的時候,
剛好有另外更大的客戶把人力佔住了,
一樣是沒有人可以過來幫忙.
就算他真的有人手可以過來幫忙,
他們大部份都只能碰到很片面的,
可能某個只對 netapp 熟, 某個只對 cisco 熟,
咦, 但是某個問題可能是 app 層的問題,
例如說, 看到跑 php 的 cpu 用滿了, 其實是 apc 忘了開,
但是他只會推薦你買更多更快的 cpu,
例如說把 mysqld or memcached 和 php 放在不同的 L2,
打爆了 L3 設備, 他只會推薦你買更強大的 L3.
這根本都不是正解啊 @_@
再舉個例子,
我們家第一次採購 cisco asa 搭配 vasco 動態密碼做 vpn 的時候,
也就想說全部都丟給 SI 去弄,
結果我直到很後來才發現,
SI 在 asa 上面 allow 了他們辦公室的 ip (好像還有某工程師家裡的 ip) 可以 ssh,
local account 搭配 static password , 搞不好還是笨到爆炸的 password.
這根本就是完全沒辦法接受的事情啊啊啊 Orz
而且這個可能還算好, 有寫死某幾個 ip,
假設碰上覺得自己密碼很安全的 SI 直接 allow 所有的 ip 呢?
如果自己什麼都不懂, 被別人埋了什麼後門, 根本就不知道.
結論是, 什麼東西都自己要(大略)懂比較實際 XD
靠 SI SI 倒 XD
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in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7o
2012-11-28T20:47:04+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:16+08:00
先說我們家內網不通會發生什麼事好了 Orz
我們家有三組 dns 分別在三個不同的 idc 裡面,
dns 的 master 自然是在某個 private ip 上,
各台 slave 也是設成要對那個 private ip 進行 transfer ,
同時它們的 ssh 只 allow private ip,
所以如果內網不通的話,
我就沒辦法 update 另外兩組 dns,
偏偏那兩組又是錯誤的資料,
而且其中一組還不在台北, 連要衝 console 都有點太開心了 orz
總之對各個 idc 的 ipsec tunnel 一定要建起來,
不對, 它們看起來是有建起來, 只是不通,
但是不通又為什麼是在有建起來的狀態呢... = =!
大概從 09:00 就發現有這個奇怪的情況,
不過一直拖到吃晚餐的時候, 才突然想起是為什麼 ~_~
當下試了好多種方式,
包括 reload 兩端的 asa,
well, 對很多 hardware 來說, reboot 一下真是有益健康(?)
只可惜這次沒有 XD
現場有某 isp 熟 cisco switch 的人在,
只不過他不熟 asa,
...]]>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 這... 看起來就應該是通的啊.... Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz</span>
先說我們家內網不通會發生什麼事好了 Orz
我們家有三組 dns 分別在三個不同的 idc 裡面,
dns 的 master 自然是在某個 private ip 上,
各台 slave 也是設成要對那個 private ip 進行 transfer ,
同時它們的 ssh 只 allow private ip,
所以如果內網不通的話,
我就沒辦法 update 另外兩組 dns,
偏偏那兩組又是錯誤的資料,
而且其中一組還不在台北, 連要衝 console 都有點太開心了 orz
總之對各個 idc 的 ipsec tunnel 一定要建起來,
不對, 它們看起來是有建起來, 只是不通,
但是不通又為什麼是在有建起來的狀態呢... = =!
大概從 09:00 就發現有這個奇怪的情況,
不過一直拖到吃晚餐的時候, 才突然想起是為什麼 ~_~
當下試了好多種方式,
包括 reload 兩端的 asa,
well, 對很多 hardware 來說, reboot 一下真是有益健康(?)
只可惜這次沒有 XD
現場有某 isp 熟 cisco switch 的人在,
只不過他不熟 asa,
一時間也不知道要怎麼跟他解釋這一卡車在幹麻,
接近中午時實在束手無策, 到處打電話求救 Orz
後來不知道哪邊來的 idea ,
想說既然 asa 說 ipsec 通了,
那我直接把 gateway 指到 asa 上面好了,
就不要過 3750E 了, 雖然這樣應該是沒有差吧 = =!
結果一把 gateway 從 3750E 換成 asa 後, 竟 然 就 通 了(!!)
看到這邊應該很明顯知道是 3750E 有鬼了 XD
如果再從頭開始想的話,
3750E 一開始只是要取代單純 L2 的 2960S,
所以其實它從一剛開始就沒有 enable L3 的功能..... Orz
我之前設過這台 3750G 是早就有 enable L3 的了,
再之前設過幾台 3560,
我寫了一個 script 會從初始化後把一堆東西設好 (ssh, hostname, snmp, etc)
也順便就會把 L3 enable,
基本上如果不需要 L3 的話, 我就不會拿 3560 或 3750 去嘛, 非常顯然 = =!
所以就忘了其實是需要下這個才會 enable L3 的功能
ip routing
哭哭 Orz
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in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7n
2012-11-28T20:18:42+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:16+08:00
話說我們家的 intranet 有些簡單的 static route 要做,
例如說, 我們主要的機房在台北,
不過有個遠端備份的機房在南部,
中間是走 internet , 兩端用 ASA 建 ipsec 打通內網,
一類一類一類的,
所以例如說台北是 10.0.0.0/16 ,
南部是 10.1.0.0/16,
台北這邊的 3750E 就會有 10.0.0.254 ,
看到是要往南部的 ip 就轉往 ASA 丟, 例如說是在 10.0.0.253,
然後就會很神奇的從南部的機房冒出來.
前一篇文章裡有說過,
第一次的設計並沒有 3750E 而是一台 2960S,
所以所有的 routing, 不管是外網還是內網, 都是放在 3750G 上.
然後又因為沒有 VRF, 決定要把 intranet 的 vlan 收回到內網的 3750E 做,
這樣子對外的 3750G 就完全不會經手內網的 traffic .
最近敝公司剛好跟之前所在的 isp 鬧翻(?),
於是換了個 idc,
反正都是要停機移機,
就打算順手來做這件事,
一次到位, 多好!
結果就出亂子了 -.-
講簡單一點來說就 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> in2 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> in2 (晚安 地球人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: L2 & L3<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Nov 28 20:18:42 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: ※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: : ISP <-> 3750G <-> 3750E +-> 2960S</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: : +-> 2960S</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: : +-> 2960S</span>
話說我們家的 intranet 有些簡單的 static route 要做,
例如說, 我們主要的機房在台北,
不過有個遠端備份的機房在南部,
中間是走 internet , 兩端用 ASA 建 ipsec 打通內網,
一類一類一類的,
所以例如說台北是 10.0.0.0/16 ,
南部是 10.1.0.0/16,
台北這邊的 3750E 就會有 10.0.0.254 ,
看到是要往南部的 ip 就轉往 ASA 丟, 例如說是在 10.0.0.253,
然後就會很神奇的從南部的機房冒出來.
前一篇文章裡有說過,
第一次的設計並沒有 3750E 而是一台 2960S,
所以所有的 routing, 不管是外網還是內網, 都是放在 3750G 上.
然後又因為沒有 VRF, 決定要把 intranet 的 vlan 收回到內網的 3750E 做,
這樣子對外的 3750G 就完全不會經手內網的 traffic .
最近敝公司剛好跟之前所在的 isp 鬧翻(?),
於是換了個 idc,
反正都是要停機移機,
就打算順手來做這件事,
一次到位, 多好!
結果就出亂子了 -.-
講簡單一點來說就是內網不通,
第一個檢查的點自然是兩邊負責 ipsec 的 asa,
先檢查 ping 的到 default gw 嗎? 這個 ok,
這台 asa ping 的到要互建 ipsec 的 asa 嗎? 也 ok,
下個 show isakmp sa , 發現是在 MM_ACTIVE 的情況,
這倒奇怪了...
一般來說如果通不了的話,
通常會直接說現在沒有任何一條連線,
(這種情況就很多, acl 錯了, 端點 ip 錯了, crypto 沒有設在 outside 一類的)
又或是連線建立中, 又斷掉, 又建立中, 又斷掉
(這種通常是 pre-shared-key 是錯的)
但是偏偏它是在 MM_ACTIVE 也就是 ipsec 建立好的情況 *囧*
這樣子就應該是通的啊 @_@
所以問題是在 3750E 上囉?
show run 看看... 有這麼一條
ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 10.0.0.253(asa 的 inside ip)
看起來非常的好,
那 3750E 能不能 ping 到 10.0.0.253 呢? 發現也可以!
這... 看起來就應該是通的啊.... Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz Orz
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in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7m
2012-11-28T20:02:25+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:15+08:00
話說很久之前某位長輩說過,
東西一多難保就會有很多笨密碼,
例如說你只有兩台 switch 的時候, 還可能每台設不一樣的密碼以策安全,
當你有一百台 switch 的時候, 你要怎麼記住每一台的密碼?
而且搞不好它的 sshd 還有漏洞!!
所以說最好的方式就是, 讓它的 sshd 只聽在 private ip 上,
例如說它是在 10.0.0.1 ,
這樣子人家就要先摸進你的 intranet ,
才能再摸到它, 相對就安全一點.
上一篇提到的問題是在負責對外的 3750G 上面,
需要一個 private ip 用來 ssh 或是 snmp 一類的,
可是這個 private ip 又不想要有 routing 的功能,
不然就內外網打通了 orz
第一次發現這個問題的時候真是大驚 XD
然後就用了 acl 來擋掉 public 和 private 互相的 traffic,
但是總覺得這樣子的解不是很漂亮 @@
所以又跑去問人, 問到兩個答案,
1.正解應該是用 VRF, 不過需要 4500 以上的系列, 很抱歉 3750 不支援 XD
2.在對外的那台上面, 把 private ...]]>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: ISP <-> 3750G <-> 3750E +-> 2960S</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: +-> 2960S</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: +-> 2960S</span>
話說很久之前某位長輩說過,
東西一多難保就會有很多笨密碼,
例如說你只有兩台 switch 的時候, 還可能每台設不一樣的密碼以策安全,
當你有一百台 switch 的時候, 你要怎麼記住每一台的密碼?
而且搞不好它的 sshd 還有漏洞!!
所以說最好的方式就是, 讓它的 sshd 只聽在 private ip 上,
例如說它是在 10.0.0.1 ,
這樣子人家就要先摸進你的 intranet ,
才能再摸到它, 相對就安全一點.
上一篇提到的問題是在負責對外的 3750G 上面,
需要一個 private ip 用來 ssh 或是 snmp 一類的,
可是這個 private ip 又不想要有 routing 的功能,
不然就內外網打通了 orz
第一次發現這個問題的時候真是大驚 XD
然後就用了 acl 來擋掉 public 和 private 互相的 traffic,
但是總覺得這樣子的解不是很漂亮 @@
所以又跑去問人, 問到兩個答案,
1.正解應該是用 VRF, 不過需要 4500 以上的系列, 很抱歉 3750 不支援 XD
2.在對外的那台上面, 把 private ip 拿掉, 改用 public ip 管理 *驚*
總之, 又學了一招 XD
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結論是, 該換 6509 了? *誤*
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in2.
Re: L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7p
2012-11-28T17:21:46+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:17+08:00
跟一台 switch 上面插 46 台 1Gbps 的 server, uplink 是 2G,
uplink 要比 downlink 還要大/強力的道理是一樣的,
如果我要可以收納若干台 2960 , 自己本身就要再更大,
才不會單一台就壓爆你, 又如何能收多台進來?
所以那時選了比 2960 還大一階的 3750E , 一樣是兩台 stack 起來 HA,
內網的 traffic 通常會高於外網, 所以 uplink 反而是比較小的 3750G .
待哪天內網開始爆炸的時候, 那就來把這組換成 6509 或 7609 了 Q"Q
另外我們一直以來各櫃內都是直接走電介面,
只有對外的介接因為會拉比較遠的距離所以走光介面.
暫時還沒有很迫切的需求換成光介面,
等到哪天如果機櫃分散到比較遠的地方, 也許需要拉超過 15m 的時候,
會考慮拉光纖過去, 避免有衰竭或是其他情況.
亦或如果真的有預算換像是 65 或是 76 這種大傢伙的話,
也許一次全部換成光介面? 再說 XD
也就是大概長成這樣子:
ISP <-> 3750G <-> 3750E ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> in2 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> in2 (晚安 地球人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: L2 & L3<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Nov 28 17:21:46 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《in2 (晚安 地球人)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 這樣子做立刻碰到的問題是,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 負責收線的 2960 只支援 6 個 port-channel,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 扣掉一個接到 3750 做 uplink 的,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 我還有一組 netapp 是要用掉 1GbE * 4,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 等於下面只能再接四台也就是四櫃的機器, 感覺就不太行.</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 要再大的話變成要開始惡搞,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 例如說多疊一層, 某一台先串到另外一台才串回這台.</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 這樣感覺不是很好, 例如說那中繼的這台變成要 4Gbps 的 uplink 嗎?</span>
跟一台 switch 上面插 46 台 1Gbps 的 server, uplink 是 2G,
uplink 要比 downlink 還要大/強力的道理是一樣的,
如果我要可以收納若干台 2960 , 自己本身就要再更大,
才不會單一台就壓爆你, 又如何能收多台進來?
所以那時選了比 2960 還大一階的 3750E , 一樣是兩台 stack 起來 HA,
內網的 traffic 通常會高於外網, 所以 uplink 反而是比較小的 3750G .
待哪天內網開始爆炸的時候, 那就來把這組換成 6509 或 7609 了 Q"Q
另外我們一直以來各櫃內都是直接走電介面,
只有對外的介接因為會拉比較遠的距離所以走光介面.
暫時還沒有很迫切的需求換成光介面,
等到哪天如果機櫃分散到比較遠的地方, 也許需要拉超過 15m 的時候,
會考慮拉光纖過去, 避免有衰竭或是其他情況.
亦或如果真的有預算換像是 65 或是 76 這種大傢伙的話,
也許一次全部換成光介面? 再說 XD
也就是大概長成這樣子:
ISP <-> 3750G <-> 3750E +-> 2960S
+-> 2960S
+-> 2960S
同櫃的傳輸就經過一台 2960S 就搞定,
跨櫃的就是 2960S <-> 3750E <-> 2960S 就到,
uplink 的話就是 2960S <-> 3750E <-> 3750G 就到,
感覺應該是相當單純的設計,
而這種東西最忌用一些很花俏的架構, 之後很容易被婊到,
一個不小心就倒站了 XD
不過我們這樣子搞之後, 又碰上個有趣的問題 XD
假設現在有一個 vlan 是 public , 另外一個 vlan 是 intranet ,
顯然每台 3750 以及 2960 同時都會有這兩個 vlan 才能滿足,
而我的 3750 因為要和 ISP 介接, 所以會把 routing mode 打開,
於是 3750 就很聰明的幫忙把 public 和 intranet 兩個 vlan 打通了 XD
完全無法接受 XD
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dhchen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為是L3會通啊 </span>推 11/28 17:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">in2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:對啊... XD 可是這兩個不應該讓它通才對啊 XD </span>推 11/28 17:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dhchen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣變成L3要去管到L2的設定了,不太合理~ </span>推 11/28 17:47
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">joncetn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:長輩直上N7K了啦~ 有VRF 符合您的需求~ </span>推 11/28 17:59
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">in2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我的 public 只有 100Mbps 啊 XD 是 M 不是 G XD </span>推 11/28 20:03
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in2.
L2 & L3
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G7l
2012-11-28T15:37:00+08:00
2012-11-29T11:51:15+08:00
話說我們家第一次上線搞迷你窩的時候,
是拿顆 SMC 8 port GbE 的 L2 switch 和別人介接的 :p
後來搬家到台固,
剛好 gslin 推薦 3com 2948 便宜又大碗
(48 個 GbE 含網管可以切 vlan 什麼的也才不到 30k)
就改用這台對外 L2 介接,
還用 vlan 的方式切出對內和對外兩個 vlan,
全部都接到同一個 switch 上 XD
而也是在這個時候, 在 gslin 大大的勸敗之下,
買了 cisco asa 搭配 vasco one time password,
用 vpn 的方式進入內網,
而不像早期都是用 ipfw 寫死公司的固定 ip 來做 XD
再後來搬家到中華數分,
跟中華要了兩段不同的 ip ,
一段是給一般 server 用途, 另外一段是拿來幹壞事(?) 用的 XD
(請不要舉手問幹什麼壞事)
當有大於一以上的 ip 段的時候,
對內把 gateway 收回來自己做,
對外直接把 default route 直接指向介接的 ip ,
似乎是比較好的方式.
當然也可以請對方切兩個 vlan 有兩個 gatewa ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> in2 </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> in2 (晚安 地球人)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> L2 & L3<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Wed Nov 28 15:37:00 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
話說我們家第一次上線搞迷你窩的時候,
是拿顆 SMC 8 port GbE 的 L2 switch 和別人介接的 :p
後來搬家到台固,
剛好 gslin 推薦 3com 2948 便宜又大碗
(48 個 GbE 含網管可以切 vlan 什麼的也才不到 30k)
就改用這台對外 L2 介接,
還用 vlan 的方式切出對內和對外兩個 vlan,
全部都接到同一個 switch 上 XD
而也是在這個時候, 在 gslin 大大的勸敗之下,
買了 cisco asa 搭配 vasco one time password,
用 vpn 的方式進入內網,
而不像早期都是用 ipfw 寫死公司的固定 ip 來做 XD
再後來搬家到中華數分,
跟中華要了兩段不同的 ip ,
一段是給一般 server 用途, 另外一段是拿來幹壞事(?) 用的 XD
(請不要舉手問幹什麼壞事)
當有大於一以上的 ip 段的時候,
對內把 gateway 收回來自己做,
對外直接把 default route 直接指向介接的 ip ,
似乎是比較好的方式.
當然也可以請對方切兩個 vlan 有兩個 gateway 的 ip,
不過這樣子的話這兩個 vlan 之間的 traffic 就會出去再回來,
也就是會要算錢的了 :Q
於是我們需要有一台可以進行 static route 也就是要支援 L3 功能的設備,
當時買了一組兩台 3750G 直接 stack 起來變成一大台(?),
負責用若干對光纖和 hinet 介接, 同時進行光電轉換,
底下若干機櫃, 每一櫃都放了一台 2960 當 L2 switch,
而以上這些設備, 每個設備再用兩條線串到一台負責收線的 2960 .
之所以所有的設備都使用 port-channel 把兩條 1GbE 的線綁在一起互相介接,
有兩個目的,
1.如果其中一條線斷掉的話, 另外一條線還可以撐著, 不會一下子就整櫃消失
2.因為絕大部份的 server 都只有接一條線, 如果某台 server 把 1Gbps 用滿的時候,
因為 uplink 是 2Gbps , 所以比較不會壓迫到其他的量, 導致整櫃癱瘓.
這樣子做立刻碰到的問題是,
負責收線的 2960 只支援 6 個 port-channel,
扣掉一個接到 3750 做 uplink 的,
我還有一組 netapp 是要用掉 1GbE * 4,
等於下面只能再接四台也就是四櫃的機器, 感覺就不太行.
要再大的話變成要開始惡搞,
例如說多疊一層, 某一台先串到另外一台才串回這台.
這樣感覺不是很好, 例如說那中繼的這台變成要 4Gbps 的 uplink 嗎?
(剩下的晚點再說 XD)
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<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">硬 <span style="color:#FFF">◥<span style="background-color:#800000">█▇<span style="background-color:#800080">█</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800080">▁<span style="background-color:#C0C0C0"> </span></span></span> <span style="color:#000080">▆ <span style="color:#008000">▄◢▃◥◤ ▃◣◥<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▊▌</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">◤ <span style="color:#800000">◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#800000">◤</span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800000">▍</span></span><span style="color:#800000">▄<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">▅▊<span style="color:#000080"> ▊<span style="color:#FFF">▆</span></span></span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#F0F000">兔 <span style="color:#808080"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">║</span></span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">▊ </span></span><span style="color:#F00000">'</span><span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">_ </span></span><span style="color:#F00000">'</span><span style="color:#C0C0C0">▊ <span style="color:#000080"> ▋ <span style="color:#008000"> ▃<span style="background-color:#008000"> </span></span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▃ ◢▅▄◢<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▅▂▄</span></span></span> <span style="background-color:#800000"> </span><span style="color:#F0F000"> ◥ </span><span style="color:#800000">◣ <span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◣<span style="color:#F0F000">◣ <span style="color:#FFF"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0"> ◥</span></span></span></span><span style="color:#FFF">◤</span></div>
<div class="ansi"> <span style="color:#808000">║ <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">≡(</span></span></span> =<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">◣ ▼ ◢</span></span>= <span style="color:#000080">▊ <span style="color:#008000">▃<span style="background-color:#008000"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▃▃<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▊</span></span></span><span style="color:#008000">▅◤<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">▋▅▂▄</span></span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800000">◤▃▁◥</span></span><span style="color:#800000"> ◥<span style="background-color:#800000"> </span></span><span style="color:#800000">◥▆◤<span style="color:#000080">▄<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">( </span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Aloe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看不懂的話應該要看甚麼書嗎0_Q </span>推 11/28 16:06
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">in2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好像是有些書可以看, 我自己反正是慢慢玩到處google到處問 </span>推 11/28 16:17
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yukitowu
[灌水] 紀念站長玩壞資料庫一PO
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G4m
2012-11-29T10:23:29+08:00
2012-11-29T10:23:29+08:00
( ゚∀゚)σ啊哈哈哈 ( ゚∀゚)σ 你看看你!
ˍ(__つ/ ̄ ̄ ̄ /ˍˍ(__つ/ ̄ ̄ ̄/ˍ
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<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] 紀念站長玩壞資料庫一PO<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年11月29日 Thu. AM 10:23:29</div><hr color="#008080" />
( ゚∀゚)σ啊哈哈哈 ( ゚∀゚)σ 你看看你!
ˍ(__つ/ ̄ ̄ ̄ /ˍˍ(__つ/ ̄ ̄ ̄/ˍ
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-11-29 10:23:29</span></div></pre>
sdfsonic
[閒聊] 平偉又進化了!!
http://disp.cc/b/254-4G0Q
2012-10-17T14:19:17+08:00
2012-10-31T19:31:24+08:00
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本文已取得原PO同意,授權轉載
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好讀
http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ
p大要的獵人版
http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png
狂氣耕胖版
http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg
a大要的火影版
http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg
k大要的死神版
http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png
七龍珠版
http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg
死筆版
http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg
火鳳版
http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg
JOJO版
http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png
http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png
四葉妹 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;">※ [本文轉錄自 C_Chat 看板 #1GVatfUe ]
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作者: sdfsonic (S音) 看板: C_Chat
標題: [閒聊] 平偉又進化了!!
時間: Wed Oct 17 14:19:17 2012
<span style="color:#FFF"></span>
好讀
<a href="http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ</a></a>
p大要的獵人版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:800px;height:1200px"><a href="http://imgur.com/5KKvk" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
狂氣耕胖版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:980px;height:1200px"><a href="http://imgur.com/WO9gZ" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
a大要的火影版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:780px;height:774px"><a href="http://imgur.com/WS60T" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
k大要的死神版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:435px"><a href="http://imgur.com/AXUvc" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
七龍珠版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:800px;height:908px"><a href="http://imgur.com/kZEZO" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
死筆版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:849px"><a href="http://imgur.com/wHBJe" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:820px;height:768px"><a href="http://imgur.com/QPUfg" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
火鳳版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:850px;height:566px"><a href="http://imgur.com/Q3TKo" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
JOJO版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:698px;height:600px"><a href="http://imgur.com/A3Hhn" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:821px;height:763px"><a href="http://imgur.com/BPe6t" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:850px;height:780px"><a href="http://imgur.com/pZBIi" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
四葉妹妹版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:751px;height:372px"><a href="http://imgur.com/N55Ii" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
大溼(?)版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg</a></a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:708px;height:1000px"><a href="http://imgur.com/2L8zj" target="_blank" class="img_link" rel="nofollow"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></a></div> </div>
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有時候,有些事比贏球更讓你感動
(Sometimes, this game is more than just the final score.)
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)</span>
◆ From: 111.250.83.24
推 <span style="color:#FF0">insethry</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉版wwwwwwwwwwww 10/17 14:19</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kerry0496x</span><span style="color:#808000">:第一張wwwwwwwwwww 阿是在「猥」甚麼啦XDDDD 10/17 14:20</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nekomatagi</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉版wwwwwwww 10/17 14:20</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kullan</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉哥依然沒有極限wwww 10/17 14:21</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kerry0496x</span><span style="color:#808000">:張遼喔wwwwwww 還有四葉wwwwww 可惜沒死神 10/17 14:21</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Aozakitouko</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版的扳手wwwww也太☆巨☆大☆了 10/17 14:23</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:23)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kerry0496x</span><span style="color:#808000">:再推一次WWWWWWWWWWWWW 10/17 14:25</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">laba5566</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD 10/17 14:25</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kaj1983</span><span style="color:#808000">:大濕版的畫風有像師走之翁... 10/17 14:26</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sdfsonic</span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上果然是大溼 10/17 14:27</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nekoares</span><span style="color:#808000">:舔速克達是三小啦XDDDDDD 10/17 14:28</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">h90257</span><span style="color:#808000">:舔油箱請 參照關鍵字 "布加拉提來了" 10/17 14:29</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">abellea85209</span><span style="color:#808000">:wwwwwwwwww 10/17 14:29</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">HomuCat</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/17 14:30</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kkessherry</span><span style="color:#808000">:我做生意~ 彈蛋蛋啦~ 10/17 14:30</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">oldriver</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版有更早的吧 也是一張單頁圖 10/17 14:31</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">scarface</span><span style="color:#808000">:師走之翁XD~ 10/17 14:31</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Gunslinger</span><span style="color:#808000">:你是在進化什麼啦! 10/17 14:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">MoonSkyFish</span><span style="color:#808000">:還是覺得死神版最經典XD 10/17 14:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">chewie</span><span style="color:#808000">:快可以出合作本了w 10/17 14:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Mentha</span><span style="color:#808000">:大(繪)家(師)對老闆的愛到底可以超進化到什麼程度!? 10/17 14:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">allergy</span><span style="color:#808000">:今天的平偉 沒有極限!! 10/17 14:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">et310</span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼這個新聞可以二創成這樣wwww 10/17 14:38</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a12073311</span><span style="color:#808000">:火影版被鬼隱了 10/17 14:43</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">s4340392</span><span style="color:#808000">:這有太多梗可以玩了 了不起阿平偉 10/17 14:44</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:46)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tim0922</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉妹妹wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 10/17 14:46</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">rexkimta</span><span style="color:#808000">:放開那個四葉! 10/17 14:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">npc776</span><span style="color:#808000">:歐買嘎 害我在辦公室憋不住笑 被掃地阿姨斜眼了XDDDD 10/17 14:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">s4340392</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO的2和3的圖重複了 10/17 14:49</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:50)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Puma5566</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有獵人版 10/17 14:50</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">s4340392</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有海賊版 10/17 14:50</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hensury</span><span style="color:#808000">:幫推新聞 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe</a></a> 10/17 14:51</span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe" target="_blank"><strong>富堡陳平偉告壹電視妨礙名譽 踢爆真相不起訴(壹電視新聞) - YouTube</strong></a> 版權屬壹電視</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/59ijqQCCKFg?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/59ijqQCCKFg/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:52)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ddt442lol</span><span style="color:#808000">:耕胖版的也太強了吧...重點都有抓到 10/17 14:54</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">s4340392</span><span style="color:#808000">:死神版 <a href="http://ppt.cc/7Tao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://ppt.cc/7Tao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/7Tao</a></a> 10/17 14:56</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">pegasusatlan</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉太好笑了 不過怎麼是叫安田 10/17 15:01</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ddt442lol</span><span style="color:#808000">:話說他的機車店生意到底怎麼樣...現在會成為朝聖區嗎 10/17 15:02</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a12073311</span><span style="color:#808000">:耕胖版的很有味道 野生的耕胖出現了!!?? 10/17 15:03</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">gundriver</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有千面女郎版 10/17 15:11</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">rock5421</span><span style="color:#808000">:聽說是做不下去 搬走了 又被人挖出來XD 10/17 15:21</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Hijikata</span><span style="color:#808000">:耕胖版超級像...太強了 10/17 15:26</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ts01670634</span><span style="color:#808000">:我才想說要弄一篇總篇集XDDD 10/17 15:39</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">YQE766</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD 10/17 16:14</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">YQE766</span><span style="color:#808000">:有人能幫做好讀版嗎XD 10/17 16:16</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">OK8066889</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ</a></a> 好讀版~~ 10/17 16:21</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ciafbi007</span><span style="color:#808000">:告非啦wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 10/17 16:22</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">medama</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD 10/17 17:52</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">zadsrfzc</span><span style="color:#808000">:能轉JOKE嗎XDDD 10/17 20:38</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 20:39)</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">zadsrfzc</span><span style="color:#808000">:我做生意 彈蛋蛋啦!!! 10/17 20:40</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: aifam 來自: 111.248.76.107 (10/17 20:41)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">swera</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 20:45</span>
臉書上的改圖相簿,頗為用心XD
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: aifam 來自: 111.248.76.107 (10/17 20:48)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">er26562002</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD 10/17 20:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">bluelune</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 20:56</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">potter1529</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:08</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">rockboy596</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/17 21:11</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Roystu</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/17 21:15</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hirabbitt</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆座墊 XDDDDD 10/17 21:18</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">littlenee</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD 10/17 21:20</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hirabbitt</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO的也很像 再推一次XD 10/17 21:23</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">charles4483</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠杯啊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:24</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ogcxd</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/17 21:25</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jeff20092</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 10/17 21:26</span>
噓 <span style="color:#FF0">MEKURUMEKU</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉梗有夠爛 10/17 21:30</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Hambowbow</span><span style="color:#808000">:第二章圖是哪個漫畫 畫風還不錯 10/17 21:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">gunny2205</span><span style="color:#808000">:我到希望圖多一點 XDDD 10/17 21:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Bigcookie2</span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑到快翻掉XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kobolin</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解XD 10/17 21:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ko910493</span><span style="color:#808000">:要爆了....XD 10/17 21:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">qqqooo4</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版太好笑了 10/17 21:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">LifeFitter</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD超強 10/17 21:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">sdfsonic</span><span style="color:#808000">:wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 10/17 21:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">belleaya</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD好強 10/17 21:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nothisman</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆座墊 10/17 21:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lingling0000</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 XDDD 10/17 21:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">zoeforce</span><span style="color:#808000">:好好笑!!! 卍解 仙拆座墊XD! 10/17 21:37</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tovshang</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:40</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tel5149</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版好讚 10/17 21:40</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">xgodtw</span><span style="color:#808000">:七龍珠有梗XDDDDD 10/17 21:45</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">rey123123</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:46</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Dducky</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO XDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:47</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">aiweisen</span><span style="color:#808000">:怎麼沒有海賊梗 10/17 21:50</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aiweisen</span><span style="color:#808000">:補一下 火影的好笑XDD 10/17 21:50</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nightisright</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 21:50</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ymca900</span><span style="color:#808000">:"支配一切修車費"冒險野郎風超好笑 真的是完全進化XD 10/17 21:51</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">capriphoenix</span><span style="color:#808000">:這真是太搞笑了,希望能夠繼續進化下去 XDD 10/17 21:53</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">KIDDLEE</span><span style="color:#808000">:笑歪了 10/17 21:53</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">CockyDick</span><span style="color:#808000">:彈蛋蛋是殺洨啦XDDDD 10/17 21:59</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">duck7491</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉真的太好笑了 10/17 22:02</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">namcp</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解超強XDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:05</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dreamworker2</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:11</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Jeffrey06</span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了啦wwwwwwwww 10/17 22:11</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">herro760920</span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了,這都同一個人畫出來的嗎 10/17 22:14</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">sinfe</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版的真的太強了 XDDDDDD 10/17 22:19</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">galilei503</span><span style="color:#808000">:這作畫品質也太高了!!!!!!!!! 支持作者當漫畫家 10/17 22:23</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">GameDemon</span><span style="color:#808000">:是不同人畫的吧....我居然知道最後一篇模仿的是誰 遮臉 10/17 22:24</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">musha1989</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳好強XD 10/17 22:25</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ThreeNG</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:27</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">YHank</span><span style="color:#808000">:布加拉提舔速克達我笑到快崩潰了XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD 10/17 22:30</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">KillLakers</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳大笑 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:31</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">XDboy</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳好好笑... 10/17 22:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dioseven</span><span style="color:#808000">:XXXXXXD 10/17 22:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dioseven</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO 七龍珠 超好笑的 畫風又讚 10/17 22:38</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ssskav</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版好強大 四葉版XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:38</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Zeroyeu</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:39</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Mafty</span><span style="color:#808000">:超靠杯XD 10/17 22:44</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ILPHYS</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:45</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ghghfftjack</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳板超有梗的 10/17 22:49</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Terrill</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:49</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">liaon98</span><span style="color:#808000">:不懂梗 但看到四葉妹妹還是推一個 10/17 22:51</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Kotonomiya</span><span style="color:#808000">:凎為什麼會有師走之翁 XDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 22:54</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">flamethur</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDD 神啊這個 10/17 22:54</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">RedWingQQ</span><span style="color:#808000">:這什麼鬼啊XDDDDDDD 來源是什麼事件阿?? 10/17 22:56</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">JasonTea</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉是什麼= =? 不懂梗阿!! 10/17 22:56</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mowpi</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD 10/17 22:59</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">exias</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆座墊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 23:00</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nahsnib</span><span style="color:#808000">:誰都別想惹他媽的小平偉,誰都別想 10/17 23:02</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">littlelaba</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆座墊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 這張笑噴 10/17 23:02</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lucifershen</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQIZm1HCN0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQIZm1HCN0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQIZm1HCN0</a></a> 10/17 23:03</span>
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態度惡劣 欺騙消費者 把修理摩托車的價錢抬高2倍!</div></div>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">mmmu123</span><span style="color:#808000">:很好奇最後這件事結局到底怎麼了? 10/17 23:04</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">y93a4</span><span style="color:#808000">:借轉JOJO版 10/17 23:04</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">y93a4<span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 JOJO</span> 10/17 23:04</span></span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">shadowblade</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://inspic.com/F8F662A0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://inspic.com/F8F662A0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://inspic.com/F8F662A0</a></a> 10/17 23:07</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">shadowblade</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://inspic.com/6CD6F03D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://inspic.com/6CD6F03D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://inspic.com/6CD6F03D</a></a> 幫補兩張死神的 10/17 23:07</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">jason77626</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠杯 也太好笑XDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 23:12</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Anson41295</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/17 23:13</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">iba780201</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒銀魂嗎 10/17 23:17</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">gain</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDD 10/17 23:20</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kit279</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 23:20</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">b09613</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的天啊 太猛了 10/17 23:25</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kae2012</span><span style="color:#808000">:馬的也太強了吧 10/17 23:27</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">LVE</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/cZRZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://ppt.cc/cZRZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/cZRZ</a></a> 美食獵人報到 10/17 23:27</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">spooky221</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDXDD 10/17 23:31</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lucifer19</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹也太有才了XDD 10/17 23:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mabikerry</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳好靠北XD 10/17 23:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">yandin</span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌xdd 10/17 23:37</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">gkgkgk</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO畫風口氣都超像XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 23:39</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Murasaki0110</span><span style="color:#808000">:快笑死XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/17 23:42</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cybastep</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉吃雞腿<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAL8Q_aac_w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAL8Q_aac_w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAL8Q_aac_w</a></a> 10/17 23:48</span>
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將某大大的gif 跟黑人吃炸雞合成 原影片 </div></div>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">lknuke</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO好棒啊!!!! 10/17 23:49</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cybastep</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg</a></a> 10/17 23:49</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">sunkist309</span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA...XDDDDDDD 10/17 23:53</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">littlelaba</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg</a></a> 笑翻XD 10/17 23:54</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">sed99975</span><span style="color:#808000">:經典 10/18 00:00</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">putout</span><span style="color:#808000">:彈蛋蛋啦 10/18 00:01</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cybastep</span><span style="color:#808000">:海賊王<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341</a></a> 10/18 00:02</span>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=blog.xuite.net" /><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>不要起爭議啦 @ 眼鏡少女牛仔風 :: 隨意窩 Xuite日誌</strong></a>
<div style="display:inline-block;width:100px;height:100px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341/cover.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> 不要起爭議啦! 這東西好像帶起了什麼歪風了其實.... @ @ cloud.man ...</div></div> </div>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lingling0000</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 笑翻 10/18 00:07</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hot4321</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD 10/18 00:09</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">airwun</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD EVA笑翻 10/18 00:09</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">LucAngel</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD 10/18 00:15</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">john2557</span><span style="color:#808000">:有梗 10/18 00:18</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">bboyallcome</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊www 10/18 00:18</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">FiveLine</span><span style="color:#808000">:給他爆啦!!!!XDDDD 10/18 00:19</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Sparxxx</span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌了 畫風超像 尤其是JOJO 10/18 00:22</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">song042008</span><span style="color:#808000">:七龍珠阿xDDDDDDDD 10/18 00:24</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">willen80</span><span style="color:#808000">:超屌!!! 10/18 00:31</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">OrzJ</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD 10/18 00:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">APUU</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆座墊 XDDDDDDDDD 10/18 00:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Rucca</span><span style="color:#808000">:死神的令人噴茶... 10/18 00:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">keepwalking9</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD 10/18 00:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">w08152266</span><span style="color:#808000">:推推Y 10/18 00:45</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">xxxccc6</span><span style="color:#808000">:大濕板是啥意思? 10/18 00:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">HareGun</span><span style="color:#808000">:創意無限阿XDDDDD 10/18 00:49</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mylucky17</span><span style="color:#808000">:推公道戰士~~XDDDD 10/18 00:49</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jyrpg</span><span style="color:#808000">:超棒XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 01:02</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mstar</span><span style="color:#808000">:關於大濕... 請 google「師走之翁 和睦」即可得知..... 10/18 01:04</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">frankbrian</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有世紀末版本阿XD 10/18 01:06</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">anan1411</span><span style="color:#808000">:金靠杯 10/18 01:12</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">xxxx5566</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊 超北爛XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 01:18</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">biycer</span><span style="color:#808000">:畫的太好了.... 10/18 01:21</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">veddiet</span><span style="color:#808000">:100 10/18 01:22</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">watashiD</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD 仙拆坐墊XD" 10/18 01:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">TWayne</span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA XDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 01:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">taco20</span><span style="color:#808000">:到底有多愛剎車墊阿 10/18 01:43</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">littlenee</span><span style="color:#808000">:好想看北斗神拳版的 10/18 01:45</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">storyf66014</span><span style="color:#808000">:這就是我的 公道XD 10/18 01:58</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lovecollyi</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊太好笑啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 02:01</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a22122212</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹超強XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 02:12</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">james41015</span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌了 10/18 02:13</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">adidas168</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 02:14</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">im30cm</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊 10/18 02:21</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">abjeffop</span><span style="color:#808000">:都好棒!! 但我愛四葉妹妹~~~ 10/18 02:54</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">d86012005</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠北 EVA那個我笑翻 10/18 02:59</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">rr856658</span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版太神了... 10/18 04:09</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">pikapika425</span><span style="color:#808000">:都好像XD 10/18 04:14</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">andante6851</span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA那篇太讚了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 04:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mapDog</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊XDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 04:37</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dung999</span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA那個太好笑了XDDDDD 10/18 07:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">xufunny</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 07:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Yie</span><span style="color:#808000">: 10/18 07:46</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">EricXD</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 07:59</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cocawowa</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳太帥了吧XDDDDDD 10/18 08:13</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adm123</span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA版最讚XDDD 10/18 08:18</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">xheath</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版一整個神韻超到位的阿~~~!! 10/18 08:55</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lbowlbow</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉之亂,繼續發燒中… 10/18 09:00</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jason000</span><span style="color:#808000">:早餐差點噴出來 XD 10/18 09:07</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">imhere</span><span style="color:#808000">:bicycle..... 不是機車的意思吧 10/18 09:13</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mark786110</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊!!XDDD 10/18 09:15</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">GTOGTR</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊我大笑 哈哈哈哈阿 太靠盃了啦! 10/18 09:25</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">gogoangelin</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDD 10/18 09:28</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">MurderKiller</span><span style="color:#808000">:jojo版怎麼會這麼強啊!XDDDDD 10/18 09:38</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">e1q3z9c7</span><span style="color:#808000">:金喝糗 10/18 09:50</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">e761031</span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳超帥XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 10:03</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">songga0909</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 10:21</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">sonic106</span><span style="color:#808000">:頻萎哥都不上Ptt嗎? 10/18 10:29</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kiwivino1023</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆坐墊真的太好笑了XD 10/18 10:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">spcjp</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈 10/18 11:31</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">michaelch</span><span style="color:#808000">:每個都是天才啊 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 11:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">chvkimo</span><span style="color:#808000">:太威了 另外 還蠻想看到 北斗神拳跟星矢 10/18 11:51</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">rockman73</span><span style="color:#808000">:噴了 10/18 11:54</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ryrp</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到火影那張 我好像開始有點相信你的價錢了… 10/18 12:24</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">aowater</span><span style="color:#808000">:一堆超好笑 10/18 12:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">blahblah</span><span style="color:#808000">:太棒了 10/18 13:01</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">MinToMidnigh</span><span style="color:#808000">:張遼!! 笑死人啦XDDD 10/18 13:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">eyeshieldZI</span><span style="color:#808000">: 有些畫風好像喔 ^^ 10/18 13:36</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">bernon</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 13:41</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hbkhhhdx2006</span><span style="color:#808000">:一看到火鳳就笑到不行 10/18 15:04</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zaq1qwer</span><span style="color:#808000">:真的假的..不是很了解這梗..煞車皮要8w1喔= =? 10/18 15:13</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">freezesky81</span><span style="color:#808000">:神啊!!! 10/18 15:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">johnx</span><span style="color:#808000">:超強 10/18 15:41</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">chiick</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD泰北七了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 16:28</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">armschill</span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己XDDDD 10/18 16:41</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">k04121226</span><span style="color:#808000">:萬姐XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY 10/18 17:01</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">JOHNJJ</span><span style="color:#808000">:七龍珠讚XD 10/18 17:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">CapriciousX</span><span style="color:#808000">:死神 死筆 火鳳超好笑 笑到翻... 怎麼沒有伊藤潤二!!! 10/18 18:14</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">lmf770410</span><span style="color:#808000">:張遼噴笑XDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 18:28</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">saidon</span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊 幹XDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 18:43</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">dream0915</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到張遼就要給推了XDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 20:12</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">derekhsu</span><span style="color:#808000">:這同人畫風,好強的畫家 10/18 20:34</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">iboxdoll</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉超可愛~~ 10/18 23:04</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tony77998</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/18 23:28</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">snowdog111</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉:今天的我,沒有極限! 10/18 23:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">megadevil</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD吃煞車皮XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/19 00:01</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">tomoyuu</span><span style="color:#808000">:誇張強XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/19 00:35</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">CN091118</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/19 00:50</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">JetaimeMia</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD有沒有鋼彈版 或是 銀魂版 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/19 03:32</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">nagisaK</span><span style="color:#808000">:公道戰士是三小啦哈哈哈 10/19 03:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">alentek</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/19 04:17</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cafelife</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/19 06:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cute1314</span><span style="color:#808000">:安田 不要大聲XDDDD 10/19 08:58</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">mangobrother</span><span style="color:#808000">:讚 10/19 13:36</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">chronon</span><span style="color:#808000">:太厲害了 很傳神 10/19 15:01</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">hanabi2005</span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 10/19 16:33</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">sa4567892000</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹...仙拆坐墊,有夠傳神的啦 10/19 18:27</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">vul3a04</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 10/19 19:19</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">f12345678900</span><span style="color:#808000">:推四葉wwwwwwwwww 10/19 23:28</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">AIdrawer</span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了... 10/19 23:39</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">killla</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有蟲師版的... 10/19 23:41</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">seedk869</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹也太強 10/20 13:48</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Swater2</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹快笑死了XDDDD 我要伊藤潤二版!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10/20 14:43</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">uafone</span><span style="color:#808000">:作者太強了 10/20 19:00</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Fuzishan</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDD 10/20 20:41</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kingion</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉妹妹讓我投降了 ... 10/21 12:01</span>
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">a11</span><span style="color:#808000">:超強!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">johnnydee</span><span style="color:#808000">:笑點太強大</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kageruzaki</span><span style="color:#808000">:大濕版畫風像師走之翁 +1</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kevin218</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有北斗版 或 銀魂版</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">positmit</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠北XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gg5432109</span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了XDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">HorusADe</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹太好笑XD 鄉民真的是太強了</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a11</span><span style="color:#808000">:死神的很經典唷~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kimo9527</span><span style="color:#808000">:靈眉教師版、幽遊白書版、爆走兄弟版~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">randy79320</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ioptional</span><span style="color:#808000">:八萬一在你心中是不是一個驚嘆號,還是一個句號,你腦中是不是充滿問號?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tolajan</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉:你在漫畫什麼啦!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">spon2526</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 陳昭洲!!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">pursuit</span><span style="color:#808000">:太神了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adskydevil</span><span style="color:#808000">:我在這自製影片的第11秒加入了平猥<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRSa55i0AAQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRSa55i0AAQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRSa55i0AAQ</a></a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">arshane</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">as159753k</span><span style="color:#808000">:有笑到哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jk6k</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">evangelion</span><span style="color:#808000">:疑似重啟爐灶的地方,各位別再去踩到地雷了,地點在汀洲路一段</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">evangelion</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/FWVu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://ppt.cc/FWVu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/FWVu</a></a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">a0963309698</span><span style="color:#808000">:彈蛋蛋XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">K-ON5566</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/64045945" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/64045945" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/64045945</a></a> 出包王女風2</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">K-ON5566</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63951906" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63951906" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63951906</a></a> 出包王女風1</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">qqq15963</span><span style="color:#808000">:八萬一啦!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">icelands035</span><span style="color:#808000">:吃雞腿 哈哈哈 = =</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">twofish0857</span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉好可愛wwwwww</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">g8small0a</span><span style="color:#808000">:一隻雞腿八萬一XD</span>
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robertabcd.
[公告] 10/27(六) 停機公告
http://disp.cc/b/254-4Ej0
2012-10-26T13:20:24+08:00
2012-10-26T13:40:14+08:00
批踢踢將於 10/27(六) AM 3:00 起暫停服務,進行系統調整,
屆時 WebBBS 也將無法使用。
批踢踢兔除周六早上五點例行重開之外照常服務。
本次維護無預計完成時間,會在系統測試過後開放。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> SYSOP </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> robertabcd (robert)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [公告] 10/27(六) 停機公告<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Oct 26 13:20:24 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
批踢踢將於 10/27(六) AM 3:00 起暫停服務,進行系統調整,
屆時 WebBBS 也將無法使用。
批踢踢兔除周六早上五點例行重開之外照常服務。
本次維護無預計完成時間,會在系統測試過後開放。
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sdfsonic
[閒聊] 平偉又進化了!!
http://disp.cc/b/254-4ATZ
2012-10-17T14:19:17+08:00
2012-10-19T21:27:23+08:00
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好讀
http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ
p大要的獵人版
http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png
狂氣耕胖版
http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg
a大要的火影版
http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg
k大要的死神版
http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png
七龍珠版
http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg
死筆版
http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg
火鳳版
http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg
JOJO版
http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png
http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png
四葉妹 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><span style="color:#008000">※ [本文轉錄自 C_Chat 看板 #1GVatfUe ]</span>
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作者: sdfsonic (S音) 看板: C_Chat
標題: [閒聊] 平偉又進化了!!
時間: Wed Oct 17 14:19:17 2012
<span style="color:#FFF"></span>
好讀
<a href="http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ</a>
p大要的獵人版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/5KKvk" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:800px;height:1200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/5KKvk.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
狂氣耕胖版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/WO9gZ" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:980px;height:1200px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/WO9gZ.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
a大要的火影版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/WS60T" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:780px;height:774px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/WS60T.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
k大要的死神版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/AXUvc" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:435px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/AXUvc.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
七龍珠版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/kZEZO" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:800px;height:908px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/kZEZO.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
死筆版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/wHBJe" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:600px;height:849px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/wHBJe.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/QPUfg" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:820px;height:768px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/QPUfg.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
火鳳版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/Q3TKo" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:850px;height:566px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/Q3TKo.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
JOJO版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/A3Hhn" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:698px;height:600px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/A3Hhn.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/BPe6t" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:821px;height:763px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/BPe6t.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/pZBIi" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:850px;height:780px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/pZBIi.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
四葉妹妹版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/N55Ii" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:751px;height:372px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/N55Ii.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
大溼(?)版
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/2L8zj" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:708px;height:1000px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/2L8zj.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
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有時候,有些事比贏球更讓你感動
(Sometimes, this game is more than just the final score.)
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">insethry</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉版wwwwwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 14:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kerry0496x</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一張wwwwwwwwwww 阿是在「猥」甚麼啦XDDDD </span> 10/17 14:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nekomatagi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉版wwwwwwww </span> 10/17 14:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kullan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉哥依然沒有極限wwww </span> 10/17 14:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kerry0496x</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:張遼喔wwwwwww 還有四葉wwwwww 可惜沒死神 </span> 10/17 14:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Aozakitouko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版的扳手wwwww也太☆巨☆大☆了 </span> 10/17 14:23
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:23)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kerry0496x</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:再推一次WWWWWWWWWWWWW </span> 10/17 14:25
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">laba5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 10/17 14:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kaj1983</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大濕版的畫風有像師走之翁... </span> 10/17 14:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sdfsonic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上果然是大溼 </span> 10/17 14:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nekoares</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:舔速克達是三小啦XDDDDDD </span> 10/17 14:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">h90257</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:舔油箱請 參照關鍵字 "布加拉提來了" </span> 10/17 14:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">abellea85209</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:wwwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 14:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HomuCat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/17 14:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kkessherry</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我做生意~ 彈蛋蛋啦~ </span> 10/17 14:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">oldriver</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版有更早的吧 也是一張單頁圖 </span> 10/17 14:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">scarface</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:師走之翁XD~ </span> 10/17 14:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Gunslinger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你是在進化什麼啦! </span> 10/17 14:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">MoonSkyFish</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還是覺得死神版最經典XD </span> 10/17 14:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chewie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:快可以出合作本了w </span> 10/17 14:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Mentha</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大(繪)家(師)對老闆的愛到底可以超進化到什麼程度!? </span> 10/17 14:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">allergy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:今天的平偉 沒有極限!! </span> 10/17 14:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">et310</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼這個新聞可以二創成這樣wwww </span> 10/17 14:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a12073311</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火影版被鬼隱了 </span> 10/17 14:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s4340392</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這有太多梗可以玩了 了不起阿平偉 </span> 10/17 14:44
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:46)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tim0922</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉妹妹wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 14:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rexkimta</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:放開那個四葉! </span> 10/17 14:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">npc776</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:歐買嘎 害我在辦公室憋不住笑 被掃地阿姨斜眼了XDDDD </span> 10/17 14:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s4340392</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO的2和3的圖重複了 </span> 10/17 14:49
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:50)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Puma5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還有獵人版 </span> 10/17 14:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">s4340392</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還有海賊版 </span> 10/17 14:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hensury</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幫推新聞 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe</a> </span> 10/17 14:51
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ijqQCCKFg&fe" target="_blank"><strong>富堡陳平偉告壹電視妨礙名譽 踢爆真相不起訴(壹電視新聞) - YouTube</strong></a> 版權屬壹電視</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/59ijqQCCKFg?autohide=1&autoplay=1&fe"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/59ijqQCCKFg/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 14:52)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ddt442lol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:耕胖版的也太強了吧...重點都有抓到 </span> 10/17 14:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s4340392</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:死神版 <a href="http://ppt.cc/7Tao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/7Tao</a> </span> 10/17 14:56
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/7Tao" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:793px;height:861px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/7Tao@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pegasusatlan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉太好笑了 不過怎麼是叫安田 </span> 10/17 15:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ddt442lol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:話說他的機車店生意到底怎麼樣...現在會成為朝聖區嗎 </span> 10/17 15:02
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">a12073311</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:耕胖版的很有味道 野生的耕胖出現了!!?? </span> 10/17 15:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gundriver</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有千面女郎版 </span> 10/17 15:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">rock5421</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:聽說是做不下去 搬走了 又被人挖出來XD </span> 10/17 15:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Hijikata</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:耕胖版超級像...太強了 </span> 10/17 15:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ts01670634</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我才想說要弄一篇總篇集XDDD </span> 10/17 15:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YQE766</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 10/17 16:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YQE766</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人能幫做好讀版嗎XD </span> 10/17 16:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">OK8066889</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/27-4ATZ</a> 好讀版~~ </span> 10/17 16:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ciafbi007</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:告非啦wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 16:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">medama</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 10/17 17:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">medama</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy</a> </span> 10/17 17:56
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=blog.xuite.net" /><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy" target="_blank"><strong>眼鏡少女牛仔風 :: 隨意窩 Xuite日誌</strong></a>
<div style="display:inline-block;width:150px;height:150px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://f.blog.xuite.net/f/4/0/2/10462341/blog_267079/photo.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>@ @ cloud.man ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zadsrfzc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:能轉JOKE嗎XDDD </span> 10/17 20:38
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: sdfsonic 來自: 111.250.83.24 (10/17 20:39)</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 轉錄者: aifam (111.248.76.107), 時間: 10/17/2012 20:40:26</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: aifam 來自: 111.248.76.107 (10/17 20:41)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zadsrfzc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我做生意 彈蛋蛋啦!!! </span> 10/17 20:40
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: aifam 來自: 111.248.76.107 (10/17 20:41)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">swera</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 20:45
臉書上的改圖相簿,頗為用心XD
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<div align="center"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=484212914937046&set=a.482657881759216.114974.100000450262479&type=1&theater" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:960px;height:398px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/484583_484212914937046_340881792_n.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: aifam 來自: 111.248.76.107 (10/17 20:48)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">er26562002</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 20:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluelune</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 20:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">potter1529</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rockboy596</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/17 21:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Roystu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/17 21:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hirabbitt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆座墊 XDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">littlenee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 10/17 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hirabbitt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO的也很像 再推一次XD </span> 10/17 21:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">charles4483</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠杯啊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ogcxd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/17 21:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jeff20092</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 21:26
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">MEKURUMEKU</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉梗有夠爛 </span> 10/17 21:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Hambowbow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第二章圖是哪個漫畫 畫風還不錯 </span> 10/17 21:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gunny2205</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我到希望圖多一點 XDDD </span> 10/17 21:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Bigcookie2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑到快翻掉XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kobolin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解XD </span> 10/17 21:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ko910493</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要爆了....XD </span> 10/17 21:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qqqooo4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版太好笑了 </span> 10/17 21:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LifeFitter</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD超強 </span> 10/17 21:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sdfsonic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 21:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">belleaya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD好強 </span> 10/17 21:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nothisman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆座墊 </span> 10/17 21:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lingling0000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 XDDD </span> 10/17 21:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zoeforce</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好好笑!!! 卍解 仙拆座墊XD! </span> 10/17 21:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tovshang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tel5149</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版好讚 </span> 10/17 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xgodtw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:七龍珠有梗XDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rey123123</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Dducky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aiweisen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怎麼沒有海賊梗 </span> 10/17 21:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">aiweisen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:補一下 火影的好笑XDD </span> 10/17 21:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nightisright</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 21:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ymca900</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:"支配一切修車費"冒險野郎風超好笑 真的是完全進化XD </span> 10/17 21:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">capriphoenix</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這真是太搞笑了,希望能夠繼續進化下去 XDD </span> 10/17 21:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">KIDDLEE</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笑歪了 </span> 10/17 21:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CockyDick</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:彈蛋蛋是殺洨啦XDDDD </span> 10/17 21:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">duck7491</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉真的太好笑了 </span> 10/17 22:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">namcp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解超強XDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dreamworker2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Jeffrey06</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了啦wwwwwwwww </span> 10/17 22:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">herro760920</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了,這都同一個人畫出來的嗎 </span> 10/17 22:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sinfe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版的真的太強了 XDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">galilei503</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這作畫品質也太高了!!!!!!!!! 支持作者當漫畫家 </span> 10/17 22:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">GameDemon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是不同人畫的吧....我居然知道最後一篇模仿的是誰 遮臉 </span> 10/17 22:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">musha1989</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳好強XD </span> 10/17 22:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ThreeNG</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YHank</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:布加拉提舔速克達我笑到快崩潰了XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD </span> 10/17 22:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">KillLakers</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳大笑 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">XDboy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳好好笑... </span> 10/17 22:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dioseven</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XXXXXXD </span> 10/17 22:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dioseven</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO 七龍珠 超好笑的 畫風又讚 </span> 10/17 22:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ssskav</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版好強大 四葉版XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Zeroyeu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Mafty</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超靠杯XD </span> 10/17 22:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ILPHYS</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ghghfftjack</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳板超有梗的 </span> 10/17 22:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Terrill</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">liaon98</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不懂梗 但看到四葉妹妹還是推一個 </span> 10/17 22:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Kotonomiya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:凎為什麼會有師走之翁 XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 22:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">flamethur</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDD 神啊這個 </span> 10/17 22:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RedWingQQ</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這什麼鬼啊XDDDDDDD 來源是什麼事件阿?? </span> 10/17 22:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">JasonTea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉是什麼= =? 不懂梗阿!! </span> 10/17 22:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mowpi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 10/17 22:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">exias</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆座墊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 23:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nahsnib</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:誰都別想惹他媽的小平偉,誰都別想 </span> 10/17 23:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">littlelaba</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆座墊XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 這張笑噴 </span> 10/17 23:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lucifershen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQIZm1HCN0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQIZm1HCN0</a> </span> 10/17 23:03
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQIZm1HCN0" target="_blank"><strong>機車行老闆 陳平偉 你在大聲什麼拉! - YouTube</strong></a>
態度惡劣 欺騙消費者 把修理摩托車的價錢抬高2倍!</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/9zQIZm1HCN0?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/9zQIZm1HCN0/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mmmu123</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:很好奇最後這件事結局到底怎麼了? </span> 10/17 23:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">y93a4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:借轉JOJO版 </span> 10/17 23:04
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">y93a4</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 JOJO</span> 10/17 23:04</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shadowblade</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://inspic.com/F8F662A0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://inspic.com/F8F662A0</a> </span> 10/17 23:07
<div align="center"><div align="center" style="white-space: nowrap;"><iframe style="max-width:100%;" width="845" height="863" src="http://inspic.com/F8F662A0" scrolling="no"></iframe></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shadowblade</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://inspic.com/6CD6F03D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://inspic.com/6CD6F03D</a> 幫補兩張死神的 </span> 10/17 23:07
<div align="center"><div align="center" style="white-space: nowrap;"><iframe style="max-width:100%;" width="803" height="871" src="http://inspic.com/6CD6F03D" scrolling="no"></iframe></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jason77626</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠杯 也太好笑XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 23:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Anson41295</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/17 23:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iba780201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒銀魂嗎 </span> 10/17 23:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gain</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDD </span> 10/17 23:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kit279</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 23:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">b09613</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我的天啊 太猛了 </span> 10/17 23:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kae2012</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:馬的也太強了吧 </span> 10/17 23:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">LVE</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/cZRZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/cZRZ</a> 美食獵人報到 </span> 10/17 23:27
<div align="center"><a href="http://ppt.cc/cZRZ" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:570px;height:830px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://ppt.cc/cZRZ@.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">spooky221</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDXDD </span> 10/17 23:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lucifer19</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹也太有才了XDD </span> 10/17 23:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mabikerry</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳好靠北XD </span> 10/17 23:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yandin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌xdd </span> 10/17 23:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gkgkgk</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO畫風口氣都超像XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 23:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Murasaki0110</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:快笑死XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 23:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cybastep</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉吃雞腿<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAL8Q_aac_w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAL8Q_aac_w</a> </span> 10/17 23:48
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAL8Q_aac_w" target="_blank"><strong>你在吃炸雞什麼啦 - YouTube</strong></a>
將某大大的gif 跟黑人吃炸雞合成 原影片 </div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/jAL8Q_aac_w?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/jAL8Q_aac_w/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lknuke</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO好棒啊!!!! </span> 10/17 23:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">cybastep</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg</a> </span> 10/17 23:49
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/8bmcv" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:700px;height:1975px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sunkist309</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA...XDDDDDDD </span> 10/17 23:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">littlelaba</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg</a> 笑翻XD </span> 10/17 23:54
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/8bmcv" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:700px;height:1975px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/8bmcv.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sed99975</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:經典 </span> 10/18 00:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">putout</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:彈蛋蛋啦 </span> 10/18 00:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cybastep</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:海賊王<a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341</a> </span> 10/18 00:02
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=blog.xuite.net" /><a href="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341" target="_blank"><strong>不要起爭議啦 @ 眼鏡少女牛仔風 :: 隨意窩 Xuite日誌</strong></a>
<div style="display:inline-block;width:100px;height:100px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://blog.xuite.net/cloud.man/cowboy/63836341/cover.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 不要起爭議啦! 這東西好像帶起了什麼歪風了其實.... &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; @ @ cloud.man ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lingling0000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 笑翻 </span> 10/18 00:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hot4321</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD </span> 10/18 00:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">airwun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD EVA笑翻 </span> 10/18 00:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LucAngel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 10/18 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">john2557</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有梗 </span> 10/18 00:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bboyallcome</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊www </span> 10/18 00:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">FiveLine</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給他爆啦!!!!XDDDD </span> 10/18 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Sparxxx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌了 畫風超像 尤其是JOJO </span> 10/18 00:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">song042008</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:七龍珠阿xDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 00:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">willen80</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超屌!!! </span> 10/18 00:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">OrzJ</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD </span> 10/18 00:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">APUU</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆座墊 XDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 00:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Rucca</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:死神的令人噴茶... </span> 10/18 00:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">keepwalking9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 00:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">w08152266</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推推Y </span> 10/18 00:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xxxccc6</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大濕板是啥意思? </span> 10/18 00:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HareGun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:創意無限阿XDDDDD </span> 10/18 00:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mylucky17</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推公道戰士~~XDDDD </span> 10/18 00:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jyrpg</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超棒XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 01:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mstar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:關於大濕... 請 google「師走之翁 和睦」即可得知..... </span> 10/18 01:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">frankbrian</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有世紀末版本阿XD </span> 10/18 01:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">anan1411</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:金靠杯 </span> 10/18 01:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xxxx5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊 超北爛XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">biycer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:畫的太好了.... </span> 10/18 01:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">veddiet</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:100 </span> 10/18 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">watashiD</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD 仙拆坐墊XD" </span> 10/18 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">TWayne</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">taco20</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:到底有多愛剎車墊阿 </span> 10/18 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">littlenee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好想看北斗神拳版的 </span> 10/18 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">storyf66014</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這就是我的 公道XD </span> 10/18 01:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lovecollyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊太好笑啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 02:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a22122212</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹超強XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">james41015</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌了 </span> 10/18 02:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">adidas168</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 02:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">im30cm</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊 </span> 10/18 02:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">abjeffop</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:都好棒!! 但我愛四葉妹妹~~~ </span> 10/18 02:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d86012005</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠北 EVA那個我笑翻 </span> 10/18 02:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rr856658</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JOJO版太神了... </span> 10/18 04:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pikapika425</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:都好像XD </span> 10/18 04:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andante6851</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA那篇太讚了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 04:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mapDog</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 04:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dung999</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA那個太好笑了XDDDDD </span> 10/18 07:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xufunny</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 07:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Yie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 10/18 07:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">EricXD</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 07:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cocawowa</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳太帥了吧XDDDDDD </span> 10/18 08:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">adm123</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA版最讚XDDD </span> 10/18 08:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xheath</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳版一整個神韻超到位的阿~~~!! </span> 10/18 08:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lbowlbow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉之亂,繼續發燒中… </span> 10/18 09:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jason000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:早餐差點噴出來 XD </span> 10/18 09:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">imhere</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:bicycle..... 不是機車的意思吧 </span> 10/18 09:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mark786110</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊!!XDDD </span> 10/18 09:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">GTOGTR</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊我大笑 哈哈哈哈阿 太靠盃了啦! </span> 10/18 09:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gogoangelin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDD </span> 10/18 09:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">MurderKiller</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:jojo版怎麼會這麼強啊!XDDDDD </span> 10/18 09:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">e1q3z9c7</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:金喝糗 </span> 10/18 09:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">e761031</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:火鳳超帥XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 10:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">songga0909</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 10:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sonic106</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:頻萎哥都不上Ptt嗎? </span> 10/18 10:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kiwivino1023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 仙拆坐墊真的太好笑了XD </span> 10/18 10:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">spcjp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈 </span> 10/18 11:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">michaelch</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:每個都是天才啊 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 11:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chvkimo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太威了 另外 還蠻想看到 北斗神拳跟星矢 </span> 10/18 11:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rockman73</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噴了 </span> 10/18 11:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ryrp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看到火影那張 我好像開始有點相信你的價錢了… </span> 10/18 12:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aowater</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一堆超好笑 </span> 10/18 12:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">blahblah</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太棒了 </span> 10/18 13:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">MinToMidnigh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:張遼!! 笑死人啦XDDD </span> 10/18 13:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eyeshieldZI</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 有些畫風好像喔 ^^ </span> 10/18 13:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bernon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 13:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hbkhhhdx2006</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一看到火鳳就笑到不行 </span> 10/18 15:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">zaq1qwer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真的假的..不是很了解這梗..煞車皮要8w1喔= =? </span> 10/18 15:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">freezesky81</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:神啊!!! </span> 10/18 15:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">johnx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超強 </span> 10/18 15:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chiick</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD泰北七了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 16:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">armschill</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己XDDDD </span> 10/18 16:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k04121226</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:萬姐XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDY </span> 10/18 17:01
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">JOHNJJ</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:七龍珠讚XD </span> 10/18 17:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CapriciousX</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:死神 死筆 火鳳超好笑 笑到翻... 怎麼沒有伊藤潤二!!! </span> 10/18 18:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lmf770410</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:張遼噴笑XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 18:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">saidon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:仙拆坐墊 幹XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 18:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dream0915</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看到張遼就要給推了XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 20:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">derekhsu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這同人畫風,好強的畫家 </span> 10/18 20:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iboxdoll</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:四葉超可愛~~ </span> 10/18 23:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tony77998</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/18 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">snowdog111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉:今天的我,沒有極限! </span> 10/18 23:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">megadevil</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD吃煞車皮XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/19 00:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tomoyuu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:誇張強XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/19 00:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CN091118</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/19 00:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">JetaimeMia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD有沒有鋼彈版 或是 銀魂版 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/19 03:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nagisaK</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:公道戰士是三小啦哈哈哈 </span> 10/19 03:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alentek</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/19 04:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cafelife</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/19 06:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cute1314</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:安田 不要大聲XDDDD </span> 10/19 08:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mangobrother</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚 </span> 10/19 13:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">chronon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太厲害了 很傳神 </span> 10/19 15:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hanabi2005</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:EVA超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 10/19 16:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sa4567892000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹...仙拆坐墊,有夠傳神的啦 </span> 10/19 18:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vul3a04</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 10/19 19:19
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">a11</span><span style="color:#808000">:超強!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">johnnydee</span><span style="color:#808000">:笑點太強大</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kageruzaki</span><span style="color:#808000">:大濕版畫風像師走之翁 +1</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">kevin218</span><span style="color:#808000">:有沒有北斗版 或 銀魂版</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">positmit</span><span style="color:#808000">:靠北XDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gg5432109</span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了XDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">HorusADe</span><span style="color:#808000">:幹太好笑XD 鄉民真的是太強了</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a11</span><span style="color:#808000">:死神的很經典唷~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kimo9527</span><span style="color:#808000">:靈眉教師版、幽遊白書版、爆走兄弟版~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">randy79320</span><span style="color:#808000">:新世紀公道戰士XDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ioptional</span><span style="color:#808000">:八萬一在你心中是不是一個驚嘆號,還是一個句號,你腦中是不是充滿問號?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">tolajan</span><span style="color:#808000">:平偉:你在漫畫什麼啦!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">spon2526</span><span style="color:#808000">:卍解 陳昭洲!!!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">pursuit</span><span style="color:#808000">:太神了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">adskydevil</span><span style="color:#808000">:我在這自製影片的第11秒加入了平猥<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRSa55i0AAQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRSa55i0AAQ</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">arshane</span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">as159753k</span><span style="color:#808000">:有笑到哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jk6k</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">evangelion</span><span style="color:#808000">:疑似重啟爐灶的地方,各位別再去踩到地雷了,地點在汀洲路一段</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">evangelion</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://ppt.cc/FWVu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/FWVu</a></span>
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yukitowu
[資訊] Dropbox驗證Edu Email配3GB/2Year空間
http://disp.cc/b/254-4AtN
2012-10-16T10:12:38+08:00
2012-10-16T18:30:31+08:00
活動頁:https://www.dropbox.com/edu
Dropbox - Sign in - Simplify your life
Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again! ...
MCU的名單:https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace?r=NTE3NDQyMjkzOQ
Dropbox - Great Space Race! - Simplify your life
Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again! ...
我的申請邀請碼:http://db.tt/9xlUG ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [資訊] Dropbox驗證Edu Email配3GB/2Year空間<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Tue Oct 16 10:12:38 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
活動頁:<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.dropbox.com/edu</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.dropbox.com" /><a href="http://www.dropbox.com/edu" target="_blank"><strong>Dropbox - Sign in - Simplify your life</strong></a>
Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again! ...</div></div> </div>
MCU的名單:<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace?r=NTE3NDQyMjkzOQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.dropbox.com/spacerace?r=NTE3NDQyMjkzOQ</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.dropbox.com" /><a href="http://www.dropbox.com/spacerace?r=NTE3NDQyMjkzOQ" target="_blank"><strong>Dropbox - Great Space Race! - Simplify your life</strong></a>
Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again! ...</div></div> </div>
我的申請邀請碼:<a href="http://db.tt/9xlUGe7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://db.tt/9xlUGe7</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.dropbox.com" /><a href="http://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE3NDQyMjkzOQ?src=referrals_twitter9" target="_blank"><strong>Dropbox - You're invited to join Dropbox! - Simplify your life</strong></a> Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again! ...</div></div> </div>
同校的驗證人數越多,配給的空間會越多,
上限好像是 25 GB。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 發信站: 批踢踢兔(ptt2.cc)</span>
◆ From: 61.220.24.37
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yukitowu
[灌水] Fx 16 Release
http://disp.cc/b/254-4ypS
2012-10-11T17:04:57+08:00
2012-10-11T17:04:57+08:00
https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2012/10/10/
看來是重大安全性問題,
才上架就被下架了X|D... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] Fx 16 Release<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年10月11日 Thu. PM 05:04:57</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2012/10/10/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2012/10/10/</a>
看來是重大安全性問題,
才上架就被下架了X|D...
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-10-11 17:04:57</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:16.0.0.1 上架了w</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[程設] MySQL相關
http://disp.cc/b/254-4uZy
2012-10-02T15:00:22+08:00
2012-10-02T15:00:22+08:00
不一定用的到,
不過備份一下。
MySQL最佳化分析指令EXPLAIN
http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql%E6%9C%80%E4%BD%B3%E5%8C%96%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E6%8C%87%E4%BB%A4explain/
MySQL的查詢時間(log-slow-queries)
http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql%E7%9A%84%E6%9F%A5%E8%A9%A2%E6%99%82%E9%96%93log-slow-queries/
mysql 優化
http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql-%E5%84%AA%E5%8C%96/
mysql 效能調整
http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql-%E6%95%88%E8%83%BD%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4/ ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [程設] MySQL相關<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年10月02日 Tue. PM 03:00:22</div><hr color="#008080" />
不一定用的到,
不過備份一下。
MySQL最佳化分析指令EXPLAIN
<a href="http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql%E6%9C%80%E4%BD%B3%E5%8C%96%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E6%8C%87%E4%BB%A4explain/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql%E6%9C%80%E4%BD%B3%E5%8C%96%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E6%8C%87%E4%BB%A4explain/</a>
MySQL的查詢時間(log-slow-queries)
<a href="http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql%E7%9A%84%E6%9F%A5%E8%A9%A2%E6%99%82%E9%96%93log-slow-queries/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql%E7%9A%84%E6%9F%A5%E8%A9%A2%E6%99%82%E9%96%93log-slow-queries/</a>
mysql 優化
<a href="http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql-%E5%84%AA%E5%8C%96/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql-%E5%84%AA%E5%8C%96/</a>
mysql 效能調整
<a href="http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql-%E6%95%88%E8%83%BD%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://homeserver.com.tw/mysql/mysql-%E6%95%88%E8%83%BD%E8%AA%BF%E6%95%B4/</a>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-10-02 15:00:22</span></div></pre>
atzkgb.
Re: [問卦] 基本薪資提高至3萬台灣會變得怎樣?
http://disp.cc/b/254-4tpp
2012-09-28T21:43:25+08:00
2012-10-03T03:08:18+08:00
我與您見解不同,是因為我待過企管顧問公司的小顧問
知道中小企業老闆他們實際在想什麼
還有會計師可以為它們做些什麼
錯了,現實是很多中小企業報表的確像你看的一樣,似乎沒賺沒陪,在產業邊緣
但是利用紙上公司,可以輕易的把利潤全藏在海外
奢侈品用公司名義買
搞到沒賺沒賠剛好"不用繳稅"
還可以騙員工共體時艱
為什麼中小企業不講求亮麗財報呢??
因為中小企業大部分都不公開上市櫃公司
不需要看股價高低的
不會要他的命,只要他豪宅名車少一點
內需增加後,企業銷售也增加,企業老闆反而賺更多
不會消失,不曉得你知不知道以前台灣基本工資狂漲的時候
其實也是有體質不好的企業紛紛倒閉
那為何經濟仍未下墜還高速成長??
因為高漲的薪資使人民有資金創業,內需市場更大後東西更好賣
你倒掉的公司,原來的員工甚至會起來當老闆,接收原有客群
我有朋友的媽媽就是把原來收掉的瑞典台灣分公司
接起來自己當老闆
這種案例太多了,很多員工很有志氣想當老闆,只是沒錢而已
台灣比例佔甚高的服務業更是不用我舉例吧?
你家樓下的全家便利商店倒了,店員失業了好可憐,職缺會不會消失?
兩個月後7-11、奇怪的服飾小店、麵 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> atzkgb (台北李先生)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問卦] 基本薪資提高至3萬台灣會變得怎樣?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Sep 28 21:43:25 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
我與您見解不同,是因為我待過企管顧問公司的小顧問
知道中小企業老闆他們實際在想什麼
還有會計師可以為它們做些什麼
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《Iser1ohn (虎!虎!虎!)》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 以現況來看,基本薪資成長到三萬的結果就是失業率提昇,為什麼?</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 因為臺灣現在很多中小企業都是攀在產業的邊緣,靠著政府壓制油水電價政策勉強活命</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 這些企業會開的職缺就是22K ,永遠無加薪責任制,福利?沒有這種東西</span>
錯了,現實是很多中小企業報表的確像你看的一樣,似乎沒賺沒陪,在產業邊緣
但是利用紙上公司,可以輕易的把利潤全藏在海外
奢侈品用公司名義買
搞到沒賺沒賠剛好"不用繳稅"
還可以騙員工共體時艱
為什麼中小企業不講求亮麗財報呢??
因為中小企業大部分都不公開上市櫃公司
不需要看股價高低的
<span style="color:#008000">: 八卦板上常聽到「強者某某在公司工作十八般武藝俱全但是老是被壓榨無償勞動」</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 基本上就是這種企業會演的戲,不過講句難聽話,這種公司能給的也就這水平了</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 你叫他拿三萬出來是要他的命,他不如把公司收起來</span>
不會要他的命,只要他豪宅名車少一點
內需增加後,企業銷售也增加,企業老闆反而賺更多
<span style="color:#008000">: 在這種景氣不好的狀況下,硬是把基本月薪拉到三萬,這些老闆會乾脆把公司收起來</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 公司就算一個月只賺十萬,一年下來也會賺個120 萬,如果搞到賠錢的話他乾脆不做了</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 把這些錢拿來養老或買股票都還比較划算</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 當然無良企業倒了正好,但是倒了這些職缺會去哪裡?答案是:消失</span>
不會消失,不曉得你知不知道以前台灣基本工資狂漲的時候
其實也是有體質不好的企業紛紛倒閉
那為何經濟仍未下墜還高速成長??
因為高漲的薪資使人民有資金創業,內需市場更大後東西更好賣
你倒掉的公司,原來的員工甚至會起來當老闆,接收原有客群
我有朋友的媽媽就是把原來收掉的瑞典台灣分公司
接起來自己當老闆
這種案例太多了,很多員工很有志氣想當老闆,只是沒錢而已
台灣比例佔甚高的服務業更是不用我舉例吧?
你家樓下的全家便利商店倒了,店員失業了好可憐,職缺會不會消失?
兩個月後7-11、奇怪的服飾小店、麵攤、拿坡里又在同個地方開起來了
職缺又出來了
<span style="color:#008000">: 景氣好的時候碰上產業擴張,無良公司倒了他的業務會被其他公司兼併</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 景氣不好呢?無良公司倒了,這個職缺就暫時消失,等到哪天景氣回來了才會再冒出來</span>
薪水高等於景氣好,這邏輯我把他想得很簡單
因為薪水高,就是想要亂花錢,消費習慣會變奢華
一堆存到錢的上班族就想要自己當老闆開店
這就是台灣過去的"中小企業潮"
其中特別傑出的就會發展成外銷產業,甚至是大企業
現在低薪,扼殺創業,扼殺中小企業創業潮,更糟
全靠現有競爭力越來越差的財團,
我寧願選擇像外國一樣靠全民創業,人人都有機會當老闆,國家才會興盛
<span style="color:#008000">: 這是一種矛盾問題:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 景氣好的時候無良公司也有些殘肉吃,不會真的給22K 永久無加薪</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 而且講起來,景氣好的時候哪個老闆是無良老闆,你還真的看不太出來</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 景氣不好你讓他倒,他們能供給的職缺就消失了,政府就得想辦法處理這批失業潮</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 但是現在的政府已經窮到脫褲子,頂多叫這些人去打半年的臨時工看景氣會不會爬起來</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 以現況而言,就算打十個半年臨時工恐怕也看不到景氣回春</span>
景氣好你是看股市呢? 經濟成長率高呢? 還是看薪水呢?
我喜歡看薪水這個相當具體又有感的指標
我有錢,不用加班,我就想要晚上去看個職棒,假日就想要到處旅遊
休閒產業會不景氣?
<span style="color:#008000">: 這就是政府為啥現在不去動基本薪資的理由</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 也是為什麼開條件說這樣那樣才能調基本薪資的理由</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 當然目前這種狀況原因肯定是政府無能,景氣搞不起來拖全民下水</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 但是真的把基本薪資調高了讓一狗票人突然失業也不是好事,看怎麼取捨而已</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 這就是所謂「共體時艱」</span>
台灣、韓國、中國大量升高基本工資的同時
都沒有造成大量失業
韓國今年升6%的基本工資,失業率仍在3.20%
根本沒有失業率飆高這回事
共體時艱也是謊言,事實上是勞工吃苦,老闆繼續上酒店,買豪宅
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<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Oslo</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Employee</span> 09/28 21:44</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mikejr</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業文 </span> 09/28 21:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Division</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我朋友他老爸做遊艇周邊配件的 也是接倒閉的來做的 </span> 09/28 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">F100</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:本來就是這樣 我看那些老闆們每個都嘛開名車 買名貴精品 </span> 09/28 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Zeropapa</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道的太多了 689會虛你 </span> 09/28 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wuliou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推 </span> 09/28 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a10141013</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你說的是英屬維京群島系列的人頭公司吧 </span> 09/28 21:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">CharleneTsai</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道的太多了 </span> 09/28 21:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">F100</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪有什麼沒賺錢的道理 何況台灣高級的進口車價錢越賣越高 </span> 09/28 21:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">F100</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:八成這些人也貢獻了一部分吧 </span> 09/28 21:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">greenblue</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推實務觀點~ </span> 09/28 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒錯~太小看中小企業,前公司每年都財報都沒賺沒賠,帳戶都 </span> 09/28 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RobertAlexy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業文 </span> 09/28 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">snowbox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:經濟學有教 錢賺得多 消費支出變高 景氣才會變好 </span> 09/28 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xx60824xx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:事實就是這麼阿 </span> 09/28 21:48
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在海外,老闆土地不動產海外、兩岸都有 </span> 09/28 21:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zzsqoo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業! </span> 09/28 21:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Umol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你如果選總統我投你 </span> 09/28 21:48
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Umol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣現在就是畸型市場 不敢消費 沒有內需 </span> 09/28 21:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a10141013</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你戳破盲點 會計財報數字是可以做平的 反正都是"人"為 </span> 09/28 21:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">heartstrings</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:現在光是人民不敢消費問題就挺大的 就看啥時爆炸了 </span> 09/28 21:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">opthr1215</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我也同意這樣的論點 錢都聚集在資方 他們有這麼有能力花 </span> 09/28 21:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dogface</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 最後一句 </span> 09/28 21:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">djmay</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道的太多了 </span> 09/28 21:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">opthr1215</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:錢嗎 最後就是窮人沒錢花錢 有錢人錢花不完 經濟反而差 </span> 09/28 21:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chenchungwen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/28 21:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">abusgun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有能力花阿..都拿去炒房地產跟放海外囉 </span> 09/28 21:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kurobane</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為老闆把家庭支出跟年度旅遊有的沒都報到公司 當然沒賺 </span> 09/28 21:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">l1234568790</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:2個月後,那這兩個月空白吃空氣嗎 </span> 09/28 21:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而且一直說調高會爽到外勞,但是數據明明本勞領最低薪資就 </span> 09/28 21:50
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 21:51)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:比較多~外勞:本勞=50:150 </span> 09/28 21:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">passwd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:最後一句是真理 </span> 09/28 21:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cc88</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推! </span> 09/28 21:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kula18</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/28 21:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gotohikaru</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:貧富差距變小 沒有高高在上踩著賤民的快感 </span> 09/28 21:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tnnua</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇不得不推 </span> 09/28 21:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">phaq</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:說得好 </span> 09/28 21:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你打得太痛了 不過我喜歡 </span> 09/28 21:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mankaro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:講得好多了 上面那篇不知所云 舉證和推論都隔座山 怪怪的 </span> 09/28 21:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SAMSUNGxLG</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:終於拋磚引玉引出atzkgb的好文章,一開頭沒有白PO </span> 09/28 21:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">SAMSUNGxLG</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一堆邪派歪里文章看到我很心寒,atzkgb說得好v( ̄︶ ̄) </span> 09/28 21:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vicmeng</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:外勞的所得大部分也是寄回故鄉 </span> 09/28 21:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ldstar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:689堅持22K共體時艱才是忠黨愛國的好國民 </span> 09/28 21:59
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">mankaro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:千萬不要再共體時間了 台灣競爭力被這藉口拖累了好久 </span> 09/28 22:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">abucat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇正解 </span> 09/28 22:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">suPerFlyK</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推推~ </span> 09/28 22:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ax227762</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推... </span> 09/28 22:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Oslo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/28 22:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這位大德,你前面講了一大堆跟我講的有啥不一樣? -_- </span> 09/28 22:02
不太一樣的是,我不太做假設
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kidd0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 </span> 09/28 22:02
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:「景氣好公司倒掉時業績會被吃掉」,那景氣不好的時候咧 </span> 09/28 22:03
景氣不好這個抽象無感的假設,我不採
對我來說,景氣不好,是因為政府笨的關係,跟財團與勞工都沒有關係
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">binsho</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/28 22:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">zxsxz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推依下 先承認你就是.......... </span> 09/28 22:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fireda</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:先生教我 </span> 09/28 22:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:搞了半天你沒講不好的時候怎樣,直接跳到「老闆就是無良 </span> 09/28 22:03
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:06)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這結論會不會太跳躍了點啊親? </span> 09/28 22:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">u70098</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:共體時艱就讓我想到兄弟象 棒球板今天才在討論今年又虧損 </span> 09/28 22:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國可是在1997年慘死之後才有轉型,我們可還沒這麼掃過 </span> 09/28 22:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">u70098</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:5000萬 教主說虧4000萬就要解散 每年都在喊 每年都虧損 </span> 09/28 22:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:景氣好不好,問賣油的和做回收的最知道 </span> 09/28 22:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:當回收乙烯顆粒在倉庫堆到山頂,乙烯賠到脫褲子的時候 </span> 09/28 22:05
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你還在想「薪水高等於景氣好」,你是覺得臺灣這島全靠 </span> 09/28 22:05
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Iser1ohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:內需就能撐起來啊? -_- </span> 09/28 22:05
是的,
我覺得台灣只靠內需就可以撐起來,很有意思的想法吧
對我來說外銷是附加的,內需起來做得特別好的,自然就會有外銷
只要人均消費力變強,面臨外資企業高級進口產品的競爭,產業自然被迫升級
必須要學外國企業搞研發專利,什麼的,不然國內消費者不買單
舉例韓國
韓國就是這樣搞起來的,面臨iPhone翻天覆地的革命
還有人民日益強大的消費力(十年來實質薪資成長將近兩倍)
手機業面臨iPhone風暴,原有的簡單撥號型手機很便宜
但韓國人民已經有錢買iPhone了怎麼辦? 根本不削原來的三星手機
媽呀,猛研發啊(仇韓的人:抄襲),趕快買生產線搞研發降低成本,搞一堆專利告蘋果呀
出旗艦手機
中國華為、長江怎麼不出對抗台灣、韓國、美國的旗艦手機?
因為中國人均消費力仍低於台灣許多,內需市場撐不住旗艦手機的研發
所以人民薪資調漲會不會害了產業競爭力?
不會,反而更大的內需市場,逼迫產業升級,升級後就可以外銷
你不銷往海外,外國人也會跑來想辦法代理台灣的產品
覺得我推論太快,要我再發篇文嗎? 我可以更詳細的說明
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">angel6502</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業 </span> 09/28 22:06
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怎麼撐不起來 有人說台灣GDP貢獻75%靠內需的耶 </span> 09/28 22:06
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">heartstrings</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:撐不起來也不能讓他空轉啊 </span> 09/28 22:07
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:19)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">v2ssili</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓樓上可以理解成 活該這島上的人民就要共體時艱 反正夠奴 </span> 09/28 22:07
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">v2ssili</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嗎??? 我是說I大 </span> 09/28 22:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">j20006640</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太中肯了!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 09/28 22:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道為啥都要"假設"基本薪資漲企業就會倒閉?景氣就會不好 </span> 09/28 22:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個連結真的蠻怪的?有沒有哪個誰來說說? </span> 09/28 22:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">j20006640</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為可惡的慣老闆不想漲薪水 </span> 09/28 22:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">abusgun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個假設是財團跟某些政府官員講的阿..看你要不要信那些 </span> 09/28 22:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">abusgun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:帝寶跟超跑一個接一個買邊喊會倒閉的傢伙 </span> 09/28 22:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:更何況資本主義應該要自由經濟 結果因為害怕失業率 </span> 09/28 22:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:所以拼命壓制薪資成長? 這不是資本主義 這是資方主義 </span> 09/28 22:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">julia66</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推~ 帳做到不賺不賠多的是 馬政府真以為漲顆魯蛋就會倒 </span> 09/28 22:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">v2ssili</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就跟選舉時講投蔡英文一定倒的意思一樣 含淚投馬馬阿 </span> 09/28 22:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有一派人一直拿中小企業例如小鐵工廠會撐不下去,去問問看 </span> 09/28 22:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:都會要求廣告打出 基金投資有賺有賠 為啥到了資方就要保護? </span> 09/28 22:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">julia66</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有陣子聽說連麥當勞的帳都做到沒賺錢 </span> 09/28 22:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">a10141013</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:內需不振是被房價害死!!! </span> 09/28 22:15
房價也很好玩,也有對策,未來再談
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">speedman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:拜託原PO出來選 我一定投你 </span> 09/28 22:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">faycos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪個鐵工廠給基本薪,只有學徒吧~學徒是連基本薪都不會到 </span> 09/28 22:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">a10141013</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:把房價搞定台灣才有救 這也是唯一解 </span> 09/28 22:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lisy1991516</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業文 推 </span> 09/28 22:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">DALUGI</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業文 可惜慣老闆不會看也不想看 </span> 09/28 22:21
老闆現在在酒店XD~~~~~~
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:23)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LOUISGRAY</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:塊陶阿 </span> 09/28 22:21
之前我也會建議大家塊陶
現在不這麼建議了,蘋果日報連續密集報導這個議題
連政治人物都開始見風轉舵,台灣一堆尚書大人很機靈呢
票對政治人物才是最重要的,若砍財團幾刀發現可以有票的話
政治人物為了票,不會客氣的
若政治人物發現砍好幾刀,財團被迫要給多點政治獻金,拜託他們砍輕一點的話
我相信政治人物砍啊砍的,會砍成習慣的
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eva19452002</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:外國企業的獲利是靠創新,只有台灣的企業是靠壓低員工 </span> 09/28 22:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eva19452002</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:薪資在獲利 </span> 09/28 22:22
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:28)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d86012005</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽推 </span> 09/28 22:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jaceda</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:"印度車廠暴動 工人調薪75%"..看來台灣也得靠這招才有用 </span> 09/28 22:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國基本工資年年調升 但他們對美元也是年年貶值 </span> 09/28 22:30
這算是對外銷企業一種配套吧,不過加總起來,人民消費力仍然暴升
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:31)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wht810090</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/28 22:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">forplay</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 </span> 09/28 22:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國拚出口真的是無所不用其極地在拚 台灣不是沒有 但做 </span> 09/28 22:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:出來的產品 國際市場似乎也沒太大的關注度 </span> 09/28 22:32
您也是很關心台灣的人呢
我有個發現就是
國際市場對於品牌的關注度
似乎就是照著人均消費力在走的
不過根據民族性的不同,擅長的品牌也不同
比如消費性電子講究快速研發,推陳出新
美國很適合,德國就慘兮兮
工藝、機械、精密的產業
德國就不會輸給其他國家
菲律賓、越南、大陸的話,幾乎就沒有什麼品牌知名度了
他們人均消費力低,不能指望他們發展品牌
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:37)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國的工資在以前四小龍年代裡算是相對低檔 現在墊底腳色 </span> 09/28 22:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ax227762</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:\選總統/ \選總統/ \選總統/ \選總統/ \選總統/ \選總統/ </span> 09/28 22:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icyling</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:!!! </span> 09/28 22:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:換成台灣 台灣如果沒大破大立的產業革新 就算薪水暴增 </span> 09/28 22:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:恐怕也無法如願如韓國般增加購買力 </span> 09/28 22:34
前面我有提到了,消費力與產業升級的關係
人民變有錢了,自然開始想要買進口的東西
國內產業就被迫必須產業革新
國內產業對於國內市場的應變是最快的
人均消費力變強大了之後,他們絕對能研發與製造出最符合本地市場的產品
升級後,台灣的品牌能見度一定會更高
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s8624032</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯專業!! </span> 09/28 22:34
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:40)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sequel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業文 快出來當官救台灣吧 </span> 09/28 22:39
我的專長其實是唱歌(好像不太好笑)
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:42)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ommmm</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我相信你 我不信台灣了 我還滿支持統一的 </span> 09/28 22:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pololo61201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO去選總統吧!! </span> 09/28 22:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sequel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怕是怕無良資方漲50%薪水,漲100%物價,跟腦殘政府一樣 </span> 09/28 22:42
安心吧! 你可以選購進口產品,進口產品就是抑制無良廠商哄抬物價的好東西
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:44)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ct78645</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:會計事務所都知道,要盡量幫客戶算到不用繳稅 </span> 09/28 22:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Oslo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:期待您上新聞追追追 </span> 09/28 22:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HuckleberryF</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:會漲100%物價的,絕對是貨幣不值錢導致的,不可能是 </span> 09/28 22:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">HuckleberryF</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:人力成本 </span> 09/28 22:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sammylee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推 </span> 09/28 22:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:萬一國內限制進口 或遇到台海戰爭呢...? </span> 09/28 22:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:另外 國人普遍有進口產品較好的迷思(先進國家尤甚) 價格不 </span> 09/28 22:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:見得能降低多少 </span> 09/28 22:52
國內限制進口? 這有例子嗎? WTO會做經濟制裁吧,WTO的機制蠻完整的
台海戰爭?? 這無論如何先逃再說吧...
進口產品較好,也不是迷思,這仍然區分是從哪裡進口的
人均消費高的國家用得東西比較好,大量生產後降低成本,可以跟外國本地產品一較高下
但人民心中的CP值會有不同,本地企業應變比較快
人均消費力低的國家進口的產品....應該不會有多少人會認為他們比較好
我是會買泰國泡麵吃啦,但泰國手機、螢幕或是汽車,我想一般人不會考慮
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">secscy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還是塊陶啊~~~~~~~~~~~~~~鬼島貪官刁老闆 </span> 09/28 22:53
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 22:59)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bondsma</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/28 22:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">thumbe70367</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推你好文!噓你為啥不出來選總統?這樣鬼島就有救了 </span> 09/28 22:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RaiGend0519</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼鄉民總是知道一堆事情,可是我們偉大的官員們似 </span> 09/28 22:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">RaiGend0519</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:乎完全不知道,是真的不知道還是裝作不知道呢...? </span> 09/28 22:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推~~ </span> 09/28 22:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Oslo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:想也知道是裝聾作啞 沒看到記者問問題總是當沒聽到快步離去 </span> 09/28 22:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">roader28</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯好文 </span> 09/28 23:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SAMSUNGxLG</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原po在推文裡的回文相當專業 </span> 09/28 23:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">paulri8924</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真是專業!! </span> 09/28 23:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sillymon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 看你的文 我覺得整個人生都有希望了 腦子也清楚了!!!! </span> 09/28 23:01
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Oslo</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Employee</span> 09/28 23:01</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">thumbe70367</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然你說得很樂觀~可是沒實際作也不知道有無副作用 </span> 09/28 23:04
你很保守對吧,很怕未知的風險,我也蠻怕的
但是過去的台灣是這麼做的,現在韓國是這麼做的,各國幾乎都是這樣長大的
大方向對了,就做,副作用,就用配套去解決它
比如說Imhuang提到的配套,
雖然大幅提高薪資為主,但同時降低匯率協助外銷產業作為配套
這就是從韓國的作法學習來的
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 23:08)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">thumbe70367</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:多少還是會質疑 </span> 09/28 23:04
吃東西多少會有噎到的時候
但我現在小心吃,雖然還是會噎到,但我還是每天吃
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">justice00s</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文 </span> 09/28 23:07
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 23:09)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Takiko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推~ </span> 09/28 23:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">h45279802</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推優文 </span> 09/28 23:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rainsilver</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:什麼都還沒做就去否定 不知道是什麼時代的人了? </span> 09/28 23:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">rainsilver</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就像人類以前一直否定地球是圓的一樣 什麼都不做最慘 </span> 09/28 23:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iamgungod</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就是有689萬人寧願做賤自己 領22K挺無能阿 </span> 09/28 23:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Leika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好帖我頂 </span> 09/28 23:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">serval623</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:優文推! </span> 09/28 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Nicoleching</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:現在的薪資水平真的超慘 我2007年大學畢業都沒那麼低 </span> 09/28 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">PanJason</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/28 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fusinshoujo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業好文 </span> 09/28 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:財報本來就都是假的,公司都故意做成虧損避稅 </span> 09/28 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">realfresh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這才是專業! </span> 09/28 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">donation12</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:最近看過最誠實、中肯的文。 </span> 09/28 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">heroe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己,應該算是今年百大PTT文章。 </span> 09/28 23:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還有OBU這種為什麼可以存在根本是避稅天堂 </span> 09/28 23:18
OBU,在國內開戶還可以管制
但......剩下的不好說
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 23:20)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">light20735</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒辦法政客都是廢渣 </span> 09/28 23:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iamgungod</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反正兩黨一樣爛 就選KMT 食古不化 那幹麻不選DPP試看看 </span> 09/28 23:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ikz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 </span> 09/28 23:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">iamgungod</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反正現在KMT結構也爛到底了 就輪替阿 讓DPP完全執政 </span> 09/28 23:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ndtoseooqd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推 </span> 09/28 23:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">uilmas1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇幫加薪推文 </span> 09/28 23:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">snowbox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好是好 但是PTT是反指標 台灣只會繼續沉淪 </span> 09/28 23:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yuike</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇大推 </span> 09/28 23:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">joesoul</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/28 23:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">killver</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 這篇講得非常正確 有些老闆還會把盈餘拿去投資房地產 </span> 09/28 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">etpark</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有看有推 </span> 09/28 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tim0922</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文!! </span> 09/28 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">meimeiamy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推好文,不過會遇上泡沫經濟,臺灣撐得下去? </span> 09/28 23:29
有人民薪資支撐的房市與股市,配合有效管制
就難以有泡沫經濟
日本泡沫經濟,是因為房市飆得比薪資快太多了
股價飆得比企業獲利高太多了
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rock0077</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:xd </span> 09/28 23:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yamchi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只能推了~ </span> 09/28 23:33
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 23:35)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">terryporter</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:good </span> 09/28 23:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">JBLs</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:同意,資方每次都玩這套 </span> 09/28 23:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:A大還沒放棄說服勞工啊 我已經放棄了 希望繼續加油 </span> 09/28 23:36
成效已經慢慢浮現啦
政論節目那些名嘴與立委.....好像不太清楚問題在哪裡....
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 23:37)</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一次看到正面勞工文爆的 平常一定有打手出來 </span> 09/28 23:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可能資方打手去烤肉了 </span> 09/28 23:37
一年前,我的文章都被指為仇富被噓
4個月前第一次被推爆
最近蘋果日報狂報
今天也回答了很多人的疑問
已經慢慢好轉了:)
有個疑問,推文的是不是都是男的啊
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dragoni</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業 </span> 09/28 23:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">t52195210</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推推~ </span> 09/28 23:37
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/28 23:41)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">greedypeople</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 </span> 09/28 23:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tido5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:結論:塊陶呀 </span> 09/28 23:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wariochang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真的要推,講得好實在,資方嘴臉真的難看 </span> 09/28 23:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jiniba</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:綜合來說:國民黨純粹想要製造階級圍牆,讓人民變奴隸 </span> 09/28 23:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wariochang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老蕭比A大,真是XX比雞腿.... </span> 09/28 23:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">waiter337</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這解釋我喜歡 就算茶葉蛋一科15元,但手機會剩下一半 </span> 09/28 23:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kshtainan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/28 23:48
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">waiter337</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:來人幫忙備份一下,我想轉文0,0 </span> 09/28 23:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">paulri8924</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推文可能大部分是男的是因為看八卦版本來就是男的多@@ </span> 09/28 23:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fivehao</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:push~ </span> 09/28 23:50
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">waiter337</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 FCU_ECON_93B</span> 09/28 23:51</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rinsoukan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推 </span> 09/28 23:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mmes</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 , 一堆黨工會跳腳吧 </span> 09/28 23:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sggs</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://disp.cc/b/163-4tpp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/163-4tpp</a> 有人貼了 </span> 09/28 23:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icefish</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:擠霸分 </span> 09/28 23:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yesloveu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真的是無良政府慣老闆 血汗鬼島欺勞工 </span> 09/28 23:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nckukath</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這才是事實,許多老闆說國內都不消費的同時,他們才是最 </span> 09/28 23:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icyling</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我是女的還是推啊!!! 第二次推了!!! </span> 09/28 23:59
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">nckukath</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不願意消費的一群,勞工薪資就是他們最需要消費的地方 </span> 09/29 00:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">modjo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推! </span> 09/29 00:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yesloveu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有一個問題 如果台灣勞工因為薪資發動罷工有沒有搞頭?? </span> 09/29 00:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ionzation</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Eva44</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:女生給推呀!!! </span> 09/29 00:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">r0930</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:然後中秋節前症腐還叫人家少烤點肉減少碳排放量? </span> 09/29 00:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">liquormania</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">saddog</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鍵盤小妹幫推 </span> 09/29 00:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:白話一點就是 大家認為把錢給少數有錢人還是多數普通 </span> 09/29 00:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">miyachi1008</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!! </span> 09/29 00:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:人 對經濟會比較好 當然是多數普通人 你以為有錢人都 </span> 09/29 00:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ritaerythema</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:很愛揮霍嗎 再怎樣揮霍 也比不上把錢給多數普通人的 </span> 09/29 00:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Takiko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政府還會說薪水少就當省錢達人壓~結果又怪我們不花錢XD </span> 09/29 00:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:消費力 且有些有錢人超喜歡存錢過普通人消費日子 </span> 09/29 00:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wuwang806</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給專業推!! </span> 09/29 00:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ricepaddy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道太多了。 </span> 09/29 00:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Moratti</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">opop2002</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:見解獨到 </span> 09/29 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:罷工喔 地球上目前霸工過的國家 全都成功 你覺得呢 </span> 09/29 00:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只是在台灣會被鬥臭或邊緣化 華隆就是沒幾家在報 </span> 09/29 00:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:身邊還有人酸他們的都有勒 </span> 09/29 00:18
依現有法令罷工風險太大了,我不希望有人罷工後遭受不利益,造成寒蟬效應
用台灣男人可以理解的例子就是
"你別被當兵長官說,有問題盡量申訴的說法給騙了"
外國可行的做法是這樣
第一,必須先運作罷工法等法令的修法,外國罷工法等法令可以確保寒蟬效應難以發生
第二,確保寒蟬效應不會發生的法令立出來後,不用版眾鼓吹,大家自己就會開始罷工了
這不是鼓勵鬧事,而是有合法罷工權,勞資雙方才可能取得真正的談判地位,
實行私法自治,促進效率
有平等談判的地位,勞資間才可能有真正的合作關係,也才會有真正的尊重
企業經營階層,就會被迫停止貪婪的行為
但要讓大家完整了解,我會希望未來引進些外國勞工法制史的書
台灣法律教育欠缺法制史的介紹
法律專業與人民情感差距這麼大,可以用法制史介紹這塊來弭平
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">FRX</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推阿~~現在要靠我們年輕人改變社會了 不能在沉默下去! </span> 09/29 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zong2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:會不會明天就被抓走阿 你知道的太多了 </span> 09/29 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sam05487</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aacs0130</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幫推 </span> 09/29 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">powerTNT</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:版主不M嗎?? </span> 09/29 00:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vxmagic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推一個真的是PTT神人一堆!看八掛長知識! </span> 09/29 00:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jack90351</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道的太多惹 </span> 09/29 00:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dragoni</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:女人會考慮這些嗎? wwwwwwwwwwwww </span> 09/29 00:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vchenkoshe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 00:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:OBU哪會開在國內都當然是ㄎ開在中南美洲...然後公司 </span> 09/29 00:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kelopi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:女生給推 我就不相信台灣卯起來搞研發的話會輸別人多少 只 </span> 09/29 00:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kelopi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是現在大老闆都忙著存自己的錢而已 </span> 09/29 00:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">osram</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業解析推! </span> 09/29 00:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:帳面一直作虧損...超扯的...明明老闆賺翻天 </span> 09/29 00:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而且還是會計師教的....太可惡了!!! </span> 09/29 00:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lisanna20</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼領死薪水的都要乖乖繳稅一毛都逃不掉 </span> 09/29 00:24
這現象很有趣領死薪水的確一毛也跑不了,企業很好跑稅
所以調高薪資有個更大的好處
就是財政稅收會大幅增加
你的薪水高了,必須要是用高比例稅率
但企業利潤高了,他可以運作聽話的狗狗配合立法減稅,也可以在外國避稅
收不到稅收,遠通2.2億也免罰
那倒不如把利潤分給員工,政府財政順便大賺一筆
勞工有錢,企業因為內需增加銷售增加,政府財稅增加更多建設給企業包
勞資政府三贏
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反倒是老闆賺飽飽還能把錢都留在國外避稅!!!!!!! </span> 09/29 00:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chana</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我是女生,我推呀 </span> 09/29 00:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還有老闆全家出國度假讀語言..吃吃喝喝都嘛拿來報帳 </span> 09/29 00:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lovesummer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:公司就是我家嘛(啾) </span> 09/29 00:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimmyyzfr</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!!! </span> 09/29 00:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">newjackle</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO說得好啊!真希望有機會一起共事~ </span> 09/29 00:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Fukker</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:經濟是人的行為 人的行為要是這麼可預測 美日現在也不會 </span> 09/29 00:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Fukker</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:焦頭爛額了 人家國家裡面可是一堆諾貝爾級的策士 政策怎沒 </span> 09/29 00:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Fukker</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:用?? </span> 09/29 00:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukiko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<<鍵盤小咩推 </span> 09/29 00:34
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/29 00:40)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nicktop2001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推~ </span> 09/29 00:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pierre6957</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推~打那些資方打手的臉 </span> 09/29 00:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">searoar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 00:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mp44stg44</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:誰來重新製作好讀版 </span> 09/29 00:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:但政府有錢 不代表政客會有錢 所以......大家都懂 </span> 09/29 00:48
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:光減企業稅說啥這樣企業才會把錢給員工的說法就好笑 </span> 09/29 00:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">geniuscheung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那些企業的背後 不知多少政客的親友啊 </span> 09/29 00:51
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">zzxzero</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇沒噓太扯了吧 錯誤一堆 真漲到三萬絕不是你講的情況 </span> 09/29 00:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mdkn35</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上 這時候就不要反串了... </span> 09/29 00:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一下子漲到3萬的確會發生反作用 </span> 09/29 00:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">zzxzero</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:最嚴重的一個問題跟本沒提到 通澎呢??一口氣漲到3萬會有多 </span> 09/29 00:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">zzxzero</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嚴重的通澎有沒有考慮過 </span> 09/29 00:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">completist</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯推 </span> 09/29 00:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">poswem</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:他馬的,這篇完全說重我的心聲 </span> 09/29 01:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ethereo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 01:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sevenly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推啦 </span> 09/29 01:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jesuskobe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推你一個拉 </span> 09/29 01:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sinho</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 中小企業 報表永遠不會大賺 中肯到暴... </span> 09/29 01:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lakershank</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: zzxzero您的高見?? 還是只會下標題而已?? </span> 09/29 01:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小妹推一個 </span> 09/29 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Zhang274</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可惜還是狗吠火車,如果會加早就加了! </span> 09/29 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alentek</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為這篇 已後我會考慮投工黨一票 推 </span> 09/29 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">airfox116111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看起來很現代化的台灣其實內心常常存在封建的思想 </span> 09/29 01:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">airfox116111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這幾天教師出來爭取權益就被家長說是不良示範 </span> 09/29 01:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">airfox116111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:人民也想改革卻又被所謂倫理道德束縛爭取應有的權利 </span> 09/29 01:22
好用的罷工法等法案立出來的話
罷工就會成為全民運動
自然而然的,人民就會跟著認同罷工是爭取權益,而不是鬧事
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">airways</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:zz講通膨?? 我笑了 如果是薪水升高帶動的通膨 代表什麼? </span> 09/29 01:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">newmatt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原來如此.....感謝原PO </span> 09/29 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">flairsky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中小企業都嘛在操縱損益逃稅小公司大家都嘛睜一隻眼閉一 </span> 09/29 01:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ykk565656</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勞委會主委應該要給你當的 第一次看見了希望 </span> 09/29 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eist</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我推你一個眼淚都快流出來 </span> 09/29 01:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eist</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:需要讓更多人知道這件事情 </span> 09/29 01:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lucef</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:/ </span> 09/29 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fujimoto</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ykk565656</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一定要讓這篇和這些想法推廣出去,我們才會有未來... </span> 09/29 01:46
那請幫忙轉給各大報社媒體吧:)
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/29 01:52)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Terrill</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!! </span> 09/29 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">deathdream</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:認同,推好文!!!台灣不缺人才,人才缺的是機會!!! </span> 09/29 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:通膨真的還好 像現在這樣慢慢凌遲讓台灣經濟衰竭更可怕 </span> 09/29 01:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">timyanzi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:該派你去當經濟部長的!!! </span> 09/29 01:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tAmoloko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推 </span> 09/29 02:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">J2047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果能賺更多老闆幹嘛不漲.... 有點不完全客觀的論點 </span> 09/29 02:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">J2047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不是放大絕 只是我相信經濟相關官員專業一定不輸你 </span> 09/29 02:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">wu0u4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果老闆都跟樓上一樣有良心 </span> 09/29 02:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">J2047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果真的這麼理想化就能達成雙贏... 笨蛋才不這樣做.. </span> 09/29 02:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">J2047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我記得以前政府不知道推出什麼政策 說讓體質不好的自己倒 </span> 09/29 02:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">J2047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被罵到一個臭頭... 說哪有政府這樣在做事的.. </span> 09/29 02:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上忘了目前政府官員與立委有極高財團化私益化傾向... </span> 09/29 02:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼不選擇雙贏 理由通常是不能妨礙目前的利益結構 </span> 09/29 02:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">J2047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:現在政府爛透了.. 我只是對於過度理想化大幅提高薪資有疑惑 </span> 09/29 02:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大副提高我也是有疑惑 但我反對稍微提高會增加失業這話 </span> 09/29 02:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pulesiya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這幾天一連串看了許多主席好文 像醍醐灌頂 </span> 09/29 02:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:但基本上來講 提高薪資確實極可能有幫助 這論點站得住 </span> 09/29 02:27
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">kusomanfcu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:內需要有內需可銷售的市場 消費者要肯接受內需市場才行 </span> 09/29 02:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">pulesiya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讓我有許多有力論點 向不關心這塊的朋友論述 感謝 </span> 09/29 02:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kusomanfcu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:多想想產業和消費者習慣 就知道內需市場永遠不可能 </span> 09/29 02:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kusomanfcu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你手機是HTC的嗎? 衣服是MIT?吃的用的都是台製? </span> 09/29 02:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kusomanfcu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:且確定不是偽台製? </span> 09/29 02:30
有關於外國好的勞動政策,一定都會產生相當多的激辯,我這篇文算少的離奇的
人民消費力撐起來,消費習慣就會改變,之前說過了,而本地企業就會快速因應
舉例來說,Uniqlo進來了,帶進來新的觀念、材質與設計
台灣做了什麼因應? 各家廠商也開始做輕羽絨外套及暖暖衣,用更低的價格去打
Lativ也是這樣起來的
Uniqlo在日本本地市場是超高CP值的東西,但日本人慣於選擇更好的衣服
台灣人消費力較低,往往會更在意CP值,Uniqlo的東西對台灣人來說
不算便宜
所以台灣本地的企業就會因應推出類似材質,但cp值更高的東西
台灣企業並沒有被Uniqlo淘汰
反而被迫升級,必須找更好的設計與研發
沒有Uniqlo,NET這些廠商越來越貴,設計不會願意創新
有了Uniqlo
這些本地企業就會快速因應,推出更符合當地消費人習慣的產品
至少我衣服是買Lativ的,民生用品幾乎全部買台灣的
台灣很多行業是服務業,這些全吃內需市場
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bundestag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上把內需市場想的太窄...... </span> 09/29 02:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lulocke</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嘿嘿 你知我知只有資委會裝不知 </span> 09/29 02:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">glofish</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:現在錢不好賺,高獲利的公司才有辦法承擔高人事成本 </span> 09/29 02:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Sousake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:push </span> 09/29 02:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">thigefe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人要重新理解甚麼叫內需了,MIT與否與內需無關 </span> 09/29 02:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">glofish</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:提高基本薪資會是各國救經濟的妙方? </span> 09/29 02:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">idiotofwind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推 </span> 09/29 02:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">superivan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推一個啦!!!!!!!! 下一任經濟部在這了!!! </span> 09/29 02:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">looks143895</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有KMT在的一天 就不可能改變 </span> 09/29 02:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bzbread</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幫推! </span> 09/29 03:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">twinbaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 台灣的老闆 只想著壓榨勞工賺錢 </span> 09/29 03:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">twinbaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好的公司 靠員工賺錢 會把獲利分給員工 因為 老闆懂得 </span> 09/29 03:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">twinbaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:公司會獲利是因為員工 也就是 好的員工是公司的寶貴資產 </span> 09/29 03:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">twinbaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而不是 像台灣老闆 員工-->成本-->越低越好-->22K </span> 09/29 03:29
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">jghs121</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:紅明顯,請問如何使物價不飆漲? </span> 09/29 04:39
工業產品,人力成本所占比例甚小
況且尚有進口產品與公平交易委員會,可以做基本的把關
依照韓國與過去台灣的經驗,物價飆漲的幅度遠低於薪資調漲
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lanceorange</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讓你爆 </span> 09/29 05:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Bluebear</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你之道的太多了 </span> 09/29 05:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Athly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 05:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">smallthief25</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道的太多了!!! </span> 09/29 06:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ronale</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 06:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">princessmake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 08:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Yie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 08:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">minbyminby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯 </span> 09/29 08:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">minbyminby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:jghs121 物價漲是自然的事情,只是薪水有沒有漲 </span> 09/29 08:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">minbyminby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:當其他國家的薪水成長時,台灣沒有,自然只有物價漲 </span> 09/29 08:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">minbyminby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而且之前也有聽過有些商人一抓準時機馬上漲,只有把 </span> 09/29 08:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">minbyminby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:人民的薪水提昇上去,才能夠繼續發展,問題不在物價 </span> 09/29 08:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">orz151426</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:想一想真可悲 政府那票領納稅人錢的想不到這個道理 </span> 09/29 08:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">orz151426</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一昧保護財團 真不知道照顧的是財團還是自己的利益 </span> 09/29 08:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:基本工資漲價 在台灣恐怕也會引發"報復性漲價"問題 </span> 09/29 09:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:財團常用基本工資與物價聯動恐嚇民眾 基本工資一旦調漲 </span> 09/29 09:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:商人恐怕想的是:那我就給你賺更多的薪水回來 基本工資 </span> 09/29 09:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:之前有段約10年沒調整的歷史 現在動基本工資的話 </span> 09/29 09:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mobilx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 作生意的都知道財不露白,帳面太好國稅局就上門啦 </span> 09/29 09:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:對資本家而言真的是天大的事情(因為不是每年都會調) </span> 09/29 09:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實調整基本工資 不只景氣好的韓國 日本失落20年了 </span> 09/29 09:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可是他們還是年年調升(目前約0.5-2%/年) </span> 09/29 09:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:貿然調升這麼多 對台灣資本家當然很不習慣(應該是感冒) </span> 09/29 09:25
這我也有顧慮到資本家的感受,通常會綁個"看起來"對資本家不錯的法案
比如說,證交稅放寬,或是協助他們做智財研發
但絕對不是幫忙搞血汗,倒行逆施,
絕對不是搞把錢全集中於財團,不是搞沒有效率的計劃經濟
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">E19870114</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 09:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:但私以為 基本工資無法反映一國勞動市場的全部 不然為何 </span> 09/29 09:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國基本工資跟台灣差20% 平均薪水可以差到快1倍? 又日本 </span> 09/29 09:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:年年小調升基本工資 但職場薪水卻逐年下滑? </span> 09/29 09:28
韓國比基本工資更有效果的"勞動政黨"存在,集體談判效果比基本工資更好
台灣在凍漲基本薪資前,平均薪資也是大於基本工資兩倍以上
只是凍漲之後,惡性循環開始
有開放外勞、又22K等血汗政策
政府負債擴張支出原是為了充分就業全民皆富
結果又引進外勞,又搞薪資補助等血汗政策
負債支出蓋房子,結果又一把火燒掉
浪費一大堆錢
唯一得利的是,承包蓋房子及燒房子工程的財團
但勞工與國家財政全輸了
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chasher</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯推!! </span> 09/29 09:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rayallen3001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 推... </span> 09/29 10:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">justeat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道太多了 </span> 09/29 10:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lbhead</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:薪水高!~房價更會高到你剛好省吃儉用可以買!~笨政府 </span> 09/29 10:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">davidex</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推啦~~ </span> 09/29 10:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Tamama56</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:中肯文 </span> 09/29 11:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">brian751204</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要是咱們的領導人有這麼英明就好了哀... </span> 09/29 11:15
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/29 11:36)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bus0421</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:a揆好~~~~ </span> 09/29 12:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">uzumaki</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推! </span> 09/29 12:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shyann</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:同感 </span> 09/29 12:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bikestormer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 13:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實這20年來的例子 不難發現 資金湧入的國家 薪水都是逐 </span> 09/29 13:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:年上升 相反撤出的國家 薪水不是不動就是逐年下滑 日本就 </span> 09/29 13:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LuckyWinni</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 13:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是其中的例子(台灣也步向日本化...但持續通膨跟日本不同) </span> 09/29 13:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:日本投資動能也是世界前幾低的 改進投資環境.設法讓資金回 </span> 09/29 13:35
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:流台灣(而不是炒房).或讓國外資金來台 才是根本解決薪資 </span> 09/29 13:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Imhuang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:矛盾的方法 </span> 09/29 13:37
消費力變強,自然會有外資高級產業進駐,促進台灣本地產業升級
外資有分很多種,他是來利用代工的話,本地人得不到什麼益處
想學技術? 先進國家都有智慧財產權的規劃與保護,越來越難了
如果消費力變強,外資自然會想進來吃市場,自然會投資台灣
若放任消費力持續減弱,外資來找代工的比例會偏高,高級產業比例就會減少
吸引資金最好的方式,還是將市場擴大
最能吸引外資投資的,第一個是銷售,第二才是省成本
省成本的外資越南集了一大堆,高級產業求銷售的外資,則幾乎全往歐美跑
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Parazicecum</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有點矛盾 你說工資漲企業可以賺更多 又說現在工資低 </span> 09/29 15:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Parazicecum</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大老闆可以爽爽上酒店 依照你的說法 不是應該工資漲老 </span> 09/29 15:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Parazicecum</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:闆才能爽爽過嗎? 還有如果這麼好解決的話 台灣幹嘛不 </span> 09/29 15:05
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Parazicecum</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:乾脆直接把工資漲到5萬鎂? </span> 09/29 15:05
難解決的地方是保守派的政治勢力強大,害怕變動
就像以前清朝變法時,總過度害怕變動,以為會有毀滅性後果
但了解各國經驗後,就會發現很多顧慮實行起來並不存在
我提供的是大方向
漲高的極限在哪裡,仍需看看外國的做法如何,再去訂相關配套
漲越多,需要的配套就更要周全
台灣過去也是有一口氣漲四倍的時期,那時候並沒有發生什麼大動亂
反而人民變有錢了,創業的中小企業主更多了
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tentryway</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 !!! </span> 09/29 15:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">keithmin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推~ </span> 09/29 16:32
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: atzkgb 來自: 61.31.108.16 (09/29 16:48)</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RickyRubio</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 09/29 17:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">KOF2000K</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:寫得太好了... </span> 09/29 17:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">elvanpenz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 18:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">asuka627</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文 </span> 09/29 19:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jackabc95175</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 09/29 19:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">EX37</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文! </span> 09/29 20:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dagoma</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推一個 </span> 09/29 22:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sherlockms</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:前三行看完就知道要推了!!!! </span> 09/30 06:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SinosaiAgi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推 </span> 09/30 09:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ETETETET</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推優質好文!!!佩服原po看出大方向的能力!!! </span> 09/30 09:28
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Zuyi</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至某隱形看板</span> 09/30 19:30</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Oslo</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Employee</span> 09/30 20:35</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">phoenixer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:打臉打臉 </span> 09/30 23:05
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">waiter337</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 FCU_ECON_93B</span> 10/01 04:58</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">breakingmind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好棒的文章!!學到好多!! </span> 10/01 12:05
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">unadix</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要鍵盤小妹多的是 今年先努力提到22k 再繼續往30k前進 </span> 10/01 23:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alfredphy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 10/02 20:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tiest0913</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政府去()吧 </span> 10/02 22:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SirOcean</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推~~ </span> 10/02 22:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">poppyya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政府官員快醒腦吧~ </span> 10/02 22:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">knme</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推推 </span> 10/03 01:01
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:戳破親資謊言</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:馬鷹狗的卵蛋會被腐蔥捏爆</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你知道太多了~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:明年會有大規模罷工暴動..我相信一定會有</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">a1s2d381</span><span style="color:#808000">:可惜,這種想法太少人知道了,尤其是那些該知道的,沒一個知道</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆都很厲害的,現在22K的人變30K,他會把現在38K的人也變30K,就扯平了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:有可能會變成齊頭式假平等…</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">goest101</span><span style="color:#808000">:689會婊你挺貪腐...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">WTF5566</span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆:球評都站在我這邊 你鬥不過我的!! ~ 哇哈哈哈!</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jeffl911</span><span style="color:#808000">:政黨只願顧資方選舉才能有錢,資方只需顧好大黨才有錢賺,所有人分完了在來債留子孫吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:通膨?不漲薪水就沒有通膨嗎? 通膨不可怕,還是正常現象,只看程度多寡</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:通縮比較嚴重,看看鄰國的日本就是了...漲薪帶動通膨是必然 但可以創造正面效益</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:比起薪資停滯經濟衰退卻又有停滯性通膨存在...那才可怕!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:最可悲的是政府裡沒一個頭腦像原PO清楚的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上的 因為腦袋清楚的 政府才不招攬</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">pcdvder</span><span style="color:#808000">:值得思考的好文!!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果atzkgb有時間,分析一下【本勞外勞薪水脫勾】與【經濟繁榮代價?南韓家庭負債超越美次貸風暴】</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">ala525</span><span style="color:#808000">:推!!看八掛長知識! </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:成份不純那邊都不會收的怕反骨</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">wumiller</span><span style="color:#808000">:這幾年生育率世界最低,也是因薪資問題,台灣人就是看不到沒差,想想二十年後年輕人是現在三分之一會怎樣吧。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:提升基本工資 =/= 實質購買力的提升, 台灣出口若沒有超出進口, 錢沒進來</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那提升工資也只是把分母變大, 單位幣值購買力降低</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:看到漲薪,大家眼睛都亮了,和消費券一樣。反正眼前有得花就好。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:發錢時大家拍拍手,配套措施有沒用不知道,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO就算真的當官,要是這套下去結果沒起色,照樣被文誅筆伐。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:提升提升基本工資 =/= 實質購買力的提升??? 那中國大陸最近薪資狂升都假的?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本工資提升當然會造成部分的通貨膨脹,但不可能全部反映成通貨膨脹</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為這商品假如是國內生產的,那他的成本裡面不會全部都是薪資,所以只會造成</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:部分的通貨膨脹,只有薪資比重比較高的服務業會通貨膨脹比較嚴重</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:假如這商品是國外進口的,就更不會有通貨膨脹的問題了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:提升基本薪資有助於金流流向勞工,勞工又會把這些金流又流向一般消費型商品</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:而不是像現在這樣金流幾乎都流向老闆和股東,然後這些金錢又跑去房地產和奢侈品,造成貧富差距更大,社會M型化更嚴重</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:鍵盤罷工,萬人想硬,一人撐場。慣老闆笑哈哈。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在一般消費型商品幾乎都是大老闆營運販賣的吧?提高的薪資就不會流向他們?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:財團壟斷大部份商品的開發生產進口以後,買什麼都是大老闆在賺,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:提高薪水也就是使富更富,富人有更多資本就能壟斷得更徹底,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:政府不能制衡財團讓富人吐出錢,調薪後結果只有通膨一條路而已。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:「只有薪資比重比較高的服務業會通貨膨脹比較嚴重」</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:最基本的飲食服務業通貨膨脹,你打算怎麼讓人過日子?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">every85713</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇中肯 而且不參雜奇怪東西XD</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">furyingdog</span><span style="color:#808000">:彷彿就在講我老闆 真是中肯</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:回文有提到罷工,其實罷工並非毒蛇猛獸,只是在罷工沒有成為全民思想或觀念之前,罷工很難得到多數人支持。工運應該先朝勞工皆必須強制加入工會這個方向進行才對,這樣才能減少寒蟬效應,真的碰上超級無良老闆時,罷工才能水到渠成,才能獲得多數人支持。而且如果台灣有健全的工會組織,坦白說,基本工資根本就不會是一個議題...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個沒帳號的不要亂講好嗎,就是基本薪資提高了,所以企業賺得錢不會全部都流向慣老闆。現在大部分台灣企業營運成本裡薪資只占不到10%,甚至只有5%,剩下賺得錢幾乎都流向老闆和股東。基本薪資提高了,讓薪資占營運成本的比例提高,當然企業再怎麼賺錢,很多錢都還是會流向員工,guest說啥還是會流向老闆,真的有想過問題嗎?而且台灣廠商通常不會做頂級奢侈品(像是跑車、珠寶、名牌鐘錶皮包),員工消費力增加了還是會來買台灣廠商做的民生必需品,對台灣經濟是正向幫助。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:調員工薪資就是要財團吐錢出來,沒帳號的不要再誤導視聽了,假如讓薪資占企業營運成本50%,而不是現在的5%,那企業不就吐錢出來了嗎?當然政府政策不可能這麼激烈,但在先進國家都是把調升基本薪資當做國家重要政策,就連中國都是每年強迫加薪,怎麼在大陸的台商沒像你說的賺更多錢?更壟斷資本?還哀說待不下去,要去越南了?真的是不懂就不要亂講。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:就算是餐飲業,薪資也絕對佔營運成本不到五成,已都市來說,租金成本還比薪資成本來的高許多。極端點好了,薪資全部暴漲一倍,便當為了反映成本,從100元漲到150元(假設其中一半的成本全都是薪資),但是我薪資漲了一倍,從每小時100元漲成200元,那顯然我可以買更多便當吃了,通貨膨脹還不上我的薪資漲幅,而不是像現在的薪資完全動漲,但物價還一直在上漲,大漲薪資後,物價一定會漲,但絕對追不上薪資漲幅,除非該商品是稀有限定數量的,才會因為貨幣供給量增多了,而價格一直上漲,但民生必需品哪是什麼稀有限定品,所以物價漲幅絕對追不上薪資漲幅。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:「就連中國都是每年強迫加薪」...所以中國貧富差距控制得很好囉(噗)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:中國的台商當然待不下去,因為和當地財閥比,台商相對弱勢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:薪資提高,人民消費,消費的錢最終流入壟斷民生需求的財團企業,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:資本額小的企業待不下去,有錢的財團更有錢,壟斷得更徹底,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:難不成我們要效法大陸的M型社會發展嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你看了你那樂觀的便當薪資調幅比,都不覺得臉紅?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來我們生活只需要顧著便當價嗎?除了便當之外的生活開銷還有多少?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:那你講個有任何一個先進國家都不加薪,景氣反而變好的出來,一個就好了喔~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:順便計算一下假如真的薪資加薪一倍,那個東西的物價會好幾倍漲。不要嘴砲~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:增加基本工資會導致M型社會是我這輩子聽過最好笑的理論,想必注重員工福利的歐洲社會都是M型社會,德國藍領應該都沒辦法活了,還能夠技職傲視全球?恰恰相反,實施新自由經濟學配最徹底的美國,才是真正的M型社會。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不是「哪個」東西漲,而是「很多東西」會漲喔。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:德國+景氣 google一下吧。空話說那麼多,你心不心虛?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:調薪不是萬靈丹,在政策沒有改善,可信的經濟配套措施出現之前,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:就算薪資調了,不用多久大部分的人還是上網敲鍵盤哭窮。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:調整最低工資有其相映的社會成本,景氣好時,這麼做會讓勞動力流動</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:景氣差時,則增加裁員風險。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來歐洲景氣好耶 lol</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你敢用「薪資加薪一倍」這種連瘸子聽了都會跑的假設,我還不敢看哩...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來是資方打手不是腦袋有問題,不然我還以為怎麼有人連國小算術都不會</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:薪資增加一倍只是為了方便計算,我前面就講過政策不會這樣搞,突然薪資增加一倍當然大部分企業都會無法應變而倒閉,新開的企業也會來不及取代舊的企業區位。大部分的國家當然是像韓國和中國,每年慢慢加薪。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我再說一遍,增加薪資所造成的通貨膨脹絕對不會高過薪資成長幅度,最好的例證就是民國六零年代,1968年基本薪資為600元,1978就漲為原來的四倍變成2400,那物價有成長四倍嗎?假如是這樣就不會是台灣經濟奇蹟了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:立論於民國六零年代的時空背景,用來佐證40年後的沙上樓閣。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:民國六零年代,你可以從滿地荒蕪打出一片天。為人扛磚塊也能買棟房。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:為了避免你算術太差算不出來,我還是假設薪資增加一倍,本來有一個月光族月領 18000,然後錢全都花在生活必需品和交通費上面,花光光。那麼薪資增加一倍後,他的薪水變成 36000,那生活必需品依造前面的假設算成本50%都薪資好了,那就會變成要花 27000才行,那這位月光族將可以脫離月光族,變成每個月還多出9000可花,那這些錢就可以花在現在政府整天推廣的文創和觀光,產業也才有升級的可能。你到底會算了沒?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:那請問你的立論基礎在哪邊?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:2012年,你的生活已經被連鎖企業和財主徹底套牢,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼會這樣就是因為薪資太低,一般人靠薪資工作個三五年根本不可能有足夠的錢創業好嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:還幻想著40年前的經濟時空可以穿越過來應用。你該去寫小說,不是來這裡開講。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:這不是40年前的經濟時空,現在中國也是這樣。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:真搞不懂怎麼會有人言論自相矛盾還可以講這麼久</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也從來沒說調薪是萬靈丹,但要產業升級一定要調薪,不然企業就會安於原本壓榨人力的賺錢方式</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:中國很慘,該照顧的那些人並沒有被照顧到。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我只知道牛皮被吹破之後,德國不提了,歐洲不提了,1968年的台灣變成了中國。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:然後現在中國的貧富不均是這樣的 <a href="http://ja.scribd.com/doc/3481647/M" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ja.scribd.com/doc/3481647/M</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:德國哪邊不提,德國可是歐洲經濟火車頭,歐豬五國還要靠德國救,倒是你吹的牛皮到底有哪國可以當例證?你從頭到尾講的話沒有任何依據。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:中國土地大成那樣當然貧富差距很大,這和薪資根本沒關係,難道要跟文革一樣大家均貧才行?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:想必調薪以後,企業壓榨人力一定大大改善。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:他們不會想到裁員,不會想到改請東南亞勞工坐辦公室,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:真正和台灣體質比較相近的是韓國,他們這十年薪資可是成長了五成,台灣還在凍漲</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:更會大力防止台灣變成第二個印尼馬來西亞菲律賓</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那為什麼行德政的歐洲和德國景氣還是不好,求解</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:這臉抽得疼啊。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:要裁員最好啊,這樣才能釋出員工在更高生產力的工作上,進行產業升級。而剩下的員工在賺了幾年後也才有機會出來創業。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:德國已經算是歐洲景氣最好的,哪邊不好?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:反觀台灣是亞洲四小龍裡最差的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:倒是我算的例子你怎麼都當作沒看到啊,你會算了沒?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://0rz.tw/faQmW" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://0rz.tw/faQmW</a> 快點回來我們的世界吧。別穿越了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:如果不懂迴光返照是什麼意思,記得要查字典喔。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:笑死人了,德國所謂的景氣不好是本來90分變成80分,台灣則是70分變成40分,這也能比</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那可笑的假設只有你能算得起勁,真有那種調幅,物價早就天下大亂了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:德國還能迴光返照,台灣早就要進太平間了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:那拜託你這個得諾貝爾經濟學獎的開開金口算一下喔</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以建議大夥一塊去參考德國佬已經跛腳的路子,這是什麼意思?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:跛腳?哪邊跛?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:歐元區第一叫跛腳,那台灣可能已經半身不遂</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:連和亞洲四小龍比都能最後</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:算了,不回應了,和資方打手耗時間</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:從頭到尾你沒有拿任何現在的資料佐證,貼連接抽醒你反而理虧,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:1968年比較適合你,無論是台灣的田埂裡或剛果叢林。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:資方打手繼續吹吧,反正這邊沒人會信你的話的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://mhperng.blogspot.tw/2012/09/blog-post.html#more" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mhperng.blogspot.tw/2012/09/blog-post.html#more</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇有豐富的數據和圖表,你繼續吹吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:歐陸國家因為照顧勞工權益,所以貧富差距才不嚴重</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:奇怪了,怎麼和你講的都不一樣咧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:哇,繞了一圈又回來像我討教了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:歐陸國家因為照顧勞工權益,所以貧富差距才不嚴重──這個結論是你自己下的喔。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:而且彭明輝並沒有提出提高基本工資=照顧勞工利益。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:心虛了,才懂得要查資料,可惜講出的話又明顯自己砸腳,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你還是回去八卦板比較有溫暖,這裡只有我會一次一次地戳在你的痛處上面。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣毫無社會保險與社會福利。這是彭民輝講的,不過得打折扣。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我們看病比國外便宜,失業有救濟金能領,我家的長輩也早就開始領國民年金。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:「毫無」是言過其實,「應該再改善」才是真的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:從社會福利面改善勞工待遇,會比喊口號式的調高薪資帳面數字有用。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你的數字舉例粗糙,閱讀文章又失焦沒有吸收到重點,何必自欺欺人呢?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:咦?德國不是因為央行喜歡當凱子,才會跛腳嗎? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:跟他們勞工薪資高有關係喔?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:哈囉,想必你就是慣老闆,害我浪費這麼多時間,只要加個茶葉蛋就戳到你的痛處了。反正你也舉不出任何實際的例證反駁,連小學算術都不會,甚至把歐洲優等生德國扭曲成比台灣還爛。我不會再回應了,你還是回政黑取暖吧~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:德國本來能跑,但是Hartz IV「也」向他的膝蓋射了一箭。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:坦白講,從頭到尾只有你在替我預設身份。這不是一個理智有益的辯論方式。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你當然不會再回應,畢竟你只能帶著你差勁的辯論技術與口才回去反省。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.invitroisland.com/2012/05/blog-post_08.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.invitroisland.com/2012/05/blog-post_08.html</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:你需要「理解現在發生的事實」。而不是沉浸在貶低他人智識的幻想。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我不是回去反省,不要替人預設在做啥,而且假如被你洗腦了才真的悲哀。是明天還要上班,還要趕報告,只有慣老闆才會整天嘴砲,真正的員工才不會整天在這邊嘴砲</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那就帶著你的偏見永遠沉淪吧。領消費券的689也是那樣。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:只看到眼前的蘿蔔~沒有思考~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:不要再亂預設身分好嗎?我不是689,至於你比較適合只看到眼前的蘿蔔,反正台灣產業就如你所言永遠靠壓榨人力,永遠不用升級吧。企業賺錢能帶動經濟發展的先決條件是這個企業是靠創新和開發新產品帶來獲利的,這種企業因為年年業績成長,所以能夠把獲利分紅給員工,員工擴大消費最終帶動整體經濟成長。台灣企業正好相反,因為是靠剝削人力帶來獲利,所以賺再多錢都不會把錢分給員工,最後會造成更嚴重的貧富差距和產業萎縮。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:原來你也討厭被戴帽子啊?那現在沒有底子卻一直上來散播錯誤言論的你,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:覺得提高工資就能解決問題,和領了消費券就服服貼貼的689是同一個等級喔。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有你又不上班啦?那你的真面目是不是老闆XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:又要吹噓自己對國際財經的錯誤知識,又要苦哈哈地上班,還講不出半點道理,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:前前後後「不回話了」、「要工作了」、卻又顛三倒四地推翻自己的言論,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:聊工資之前,你為什麼不想想自己怎麼這麼可悲?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:真可憐 有些人就是覺得外國月亮圓 拿望遠鏡一看才知道外國月亮也坑坑洞洞</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:寫政論的隨便拿外國舉例說外國多好 就有人信 讀完德國勞工生態介紹才知道多慘</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:就好像美國人也會羨慕台灣健保 台灣人自己看了都ㄎㄎ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:恩..不用民國60年代 用韓國1997~2012 的例子 也可以打爆你的臉 = ="</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本薪資是代表什麼 你到底懂不懂? 那是 勞工人民最基本的消費力 不提升 那是要資方無限成長嗎? 台灣是有健全的工會制度嗎 沒有嘛 那政府不用政策來控制是要放給受薪階層去死喔? 台灣現實就是 起薪太低 資方剝削嚴重 沒帳號的 你說個有用來看看阿 要怎麼樣在不提升基本工資下 提升景氣? 保障受薪階級? 中國提升基本工資 那是不得不做 中國通膨很嚴重 不漲都要餓死 提高工資 不能解決全部的問題 但是能解決部分問題 能保障受薪階級 也能汰換不良公司與老闆 不知道持反對意見的你 有何高見? ^^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">hate56</span><span style="color:#808000">:說得太好了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:相信這篇,我老闆就是一個三年換三台名車,但是公司薪水從不調漲的人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:瞇之音。是不是塑化劑最近又起死回生了~!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個沒帳號的 說三小 提高基本薪資 我們會被大財團綁定 也是胡說八道 大財團 組織大人也多 提高基本薪資 大小老闆都會傷到 哪會都死中小企業 在人事費用上剝削員工嚴重的也是大財團 加基薪 是捅到大老闆比較多阿</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:還拿發消費卷跟加基薪比 根本亂比 加基薪爽到拿基本薪資的人 發消費卷 是強迫你花錢 不花 消費卷還會失效 差這麼多也拿來比?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:還說控管貧富差距用調整基本薪資沒用 那全世界 那麼多國家在用 是大家都腦殘嗎? 政府不在稅制跟基本薪資上做分配 那還有什麼別的辦法? 說不景氣 德國有比台灣慘嗎? 台灣連10個藍燈喔 德國要不是歐元區拖累 還是德國馬克的話 跟台灣比 根本是拿牙籤比德國香腸喔 還有例子中個德國勞工他是單薪養一家6口喔 他還失業一段時間 在台灣早就ㄎㄎ了...在中國的話 一家早就餓死了外加被和諧掉 你說德國好不好?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:誰能拿出一個例子 政府放任資方壓榨勞方最後 國家變好 景氣提升的 給一個就好 拜託你打我臉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個沒帳號的還在回喔,我都工作完要出來吃中餐了,我知道你不是689啦,但這種不知民間疾苦冷血的嘴臉正好跟馬政府的管中閔差不多,不是慣老闆就是沒工作過的小屁孩才有可能這麼無知。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:你的所謂德國勞工很慘的連結不看則以,一看笑掉我的大牙,台灣根本沒有長期失業補助,台灣的只有短期六個月的失業補助,德國長期失業還可以回到就業俱樂部領補助,台灣等著燒炭自殺吧。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:而且你有看前後文嗎?現在德國勞工會比以前慘,就是放鬆各種勞動限制,開放臨時工,開放外勞,接受了所謂的新自由經濟主義。就是跟你講的政府都不要管企業,讓企業一直壓榨勞工就好,第一次看到有人拿石頭砸自己腳還沾沾自喜的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:而且我現在薪資將近基本薪資的三倍,哪邊可悲,調不調基本薪資講實話關我屁事,但我就是看不慣有人一直當資方打手洗腦勞工階層,像啥"政府挺企業、企業挺勞工"這種屁話,台灣很多企業是依靠剝削人力來獲利的,政府給這種企業再多優惠,一樣不會挺員工的。建議不要再當米蟲了,出來隨便找份工作,做便利商店店員也好,就可以知道台灣勞力有多廉價。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:另外我這邊我問最後三個問題讓你思考一下:</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:1. 為什麼中國和韓國都可以藉由不斷增加基本薪資促進產業升級,而台灣不行?中國現在已經逐漸從勞力密集產業轉向技術密集,而韓國則是脫離代工轉向自有品牌開發,到底為什麼這兩個台灣的鄰國做得到而台灣做不到?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:2. 除了藉由強迫增加員工薪資的方式,還有其他方式可以促進產業升級嗎?各種租稅減免補助已經確定是失敗的了,想想雙D產業,想想裕隆汽車搞了幾十年也不過搞出了一個電動玩具車。又薪資凍漲甚至減薪就可以讓台灣景氣變好嗎?隨便找一個例子出來就好。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:3. 最後你的算術能力到底恢復了沒,假如員工每日薪資增加一個茶葉蛋,茶葉蛋到底會通膨幾倍啊?你一直說我算得太初淺,我也早就解釋,無論怎麼推算,加薪所造成的通膨絕對追不上薪資漲幅,就像是民國六零年代這樣,也拜託你推算一下,說不定可以和無薪假一樣並列諾貝爾經濟學獎,真的不會算也隨便掰一個,讓大家笑一下。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國近年過很爽是吧?抽醒你們這些做大夢的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.naipo.com/Portals/1/web_tw/Knowledge_Center/Editorial/publish-32.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.naipo.com/Portals/1/web_tw/Knowledge_Center/Editorial/publish-32.htm</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:無論怎麼推算,加薪所造成的通膨絕對追不上薪資漲幅</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那麼你們看到的韓國肯定位於另一個世界</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國的物價上升率在OECD排第三的耶</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:物價上漲率6.4%,調薪4.5%,我看韓國人都要被茶葉蛋噎死了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:「政府都不要管企業,讓企業一直壓榨勞工就好」肯定是你在幻想中的產物。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:我從頭到尾沒說過任何要政府放任企業的言論,這是你說的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:但我很肯定,你完全沒有研究背景,也無法拿出調薪就能改善現狀的證明。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:反倒是你們口中的先進國,都經不起實際數據的檢視。誰在隨謬論起舞,很明顯。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有別模仿我的詞了,腳是你先自個兒砸的,顛三倒四出爾反爾的也是你,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:到了隔天中午還惦記著要回來撂話,輸不起也別弄得這麼難看。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:Zzz,同一篇連結下面回應就在打你臉了,我懶得回~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有不要轉移話題,記得回答那三個問題ㄝ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:那你要不要把漲幅6.3%的茶葉蛋吞回去啊?懶得回,那上面那一行肯定是幻覺啦ㄏㄏ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:Zzz,那是最高漲幅,又不是平均漲幅,你算術能力還沒恢復嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://mhperng.blogspot.tw/2012/06/blog-post_16.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mhperng.blogspot.tw/2012/06/blog-post_16.html</a> 看看真正公正且有數據的論述吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒想到韓國他們對待勞工的條件也遠比台灣有良心,名義 GDP 僅為台灣的 1.133倍,名義月薪卻願意給到1.63倍!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國電子業光鮮亮麗,不代表人民過得好喔。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:而且你是活在平行世界嗎?我剛查最新韓國八月CPI才1.2%</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://stock.sohu.com/20120903/n352169689.shtml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://stock.sohu.com/20120903/n352169689.shtml</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:記得用新數據喔,茶葉蛋你慢慢吃吧</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?querytype=view&queryname=221#" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?querytype=view&queryname=221#</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然綜合指數是漲1.2%沒錯啦...只有三行字的報導你也好意思叫「數據」。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:韓國食品和能源類的漲幅,可就沒有那麼漂亮了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:表單自己操作吧。當然你也可以說食品和能源不是生活中最重要的項目,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:茶葉蛋你捐給韓國,他們會很高興。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:噗 原來調整基本薪資和貧富差距甚至家庭負債都能扯上關係 老是拿韓國來救援</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:那同樣是漲薪資的其他國家怎就沒這現象?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也相信韓國有不少家庭負債累累 但並不完全是調漲薪資的問題 這兩者之間有何相關性?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒頭沒腦的拿個人家的劣勢來代入都是因為漲薪資的關係 證據在哪?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:那個...已經開始跳針了 我們還要繼續陪他認真嗎? = ="</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:從頭到尾 啥也沒說 完全在攻擊漲基本工資 回文都說了加薪所造成的通膨絕對追不上薪資漲幅" 韓國的6.4%全是漲薪資導致的通膨嗎? 完全以偏蓋全 三行字的報導不能叫數據? 那要叫什麼? 都整理成三行給你了耶....然後我也沒說 某個人"支持"政府都不要管企業,讓企業一直壓榨勞工就好」這種理論 阿 是有的人"對號入座"怪我了喔 還有 這幾年韓國根本爽透了 從1997的谷底爬到現在 日本都快被它幹掉了 你說它不爽 那我不知道你要怎麼樣才爽 是要多P嗎? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:要找負面新聞 隨便也一大把 拿來打別人的臉 只能說你戰力不足阿~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:"反倒是你們口中的先進國,都經不起實際數據的檢視。誰在隨謬論起舞,很明顯。" 看來某個人真的認為"大家都腦殘"...有沒有可能是你沒有"研究"清楚數據? 或是你是腦...算了 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:這麼討厭吃茶葉蛋嗎? 還要捐給韓國 不過他們可能不削吃 拿去給北韓吧 他們基本不挑食</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:做研究的最要求的 就是正反論述中不要出現不合理的地方 等號兩邊必須是相等的 某人在這邊大放厥詞 也沒有拿出他的等號 還要說別人不是做研究的...這叫你的指導教授情何以堪阿 算了 你可能跟他不熟~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:對了打臉就打臉 會用"抽"的 高達八成(立委調)都是26...掰</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也覺得沒必要浪費時間了,只會攻擊提升薪資有什麼壞處,但自己的立論基礎卻薄弱到根本不存在,想要攻擊還沒辦法攻擊咧,跟空口說白話的人爭論真的是浪費時間</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">talesweaverd</span><span style="color:#808000">:某樓是左岸來的還是領薪水的打手?德國慘!?媽的幾個月前還有電視台跑去做希臘專題採訪,那邊一流大學畢業的說那薪水好畢業後都跑去or準備跑去德國工作咧,要跑去澳洲當台勞的我們算啥?到底是哪來的腦O</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒有競爭力當然去當台勞啊XD 有競爭力的就像某人一樣領三倍的基本工資</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣景氣很慘,可以讓人領到三倍的基本工資,上班兼打B。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:結論:過太爽。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:是是是 要跟大陸一樣滿地血尿工廠 處處都是民工 才不會過太爽 人生才有意義 像你一樣努力當打手 領一點點薪水 當個無產階級 整個人都發亮了耶 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:像那種"過的爽的人"邦生活不如意的人設想這種沒意義的行為 你完全不削幹 你真的他馬的有見地...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:嘿,W可是說大陸也在調薪資,要我們向大陸學習的耶。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:這種國中生等級的結論 也要拿出來讓人笑 你是業績壓力太大嗎? 還是你無話可說了? 臉都是自己丟的 你看看你多"高尚"阿 自貶以利天下...完美詮釋"飯見""腦若""打手"三個詞 在下拜服</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:嘿 台灣比大陸更早開始調薪資,大陸在向我們學習耶 他們就要走向民主自由了耶</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:有你這種人站同一邊說話,W運氣也真夠差的了(抹臉)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:對了,你不像做過研究的人。從談吐來看,W受過高等教育是顯而易見的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:而你來反而壞了他的格調,別這樣。假如求學過程中有挫折,你該做的是另尋途徑充實自己。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:對付怎麼樣的人 就用怎麼樣的談吐 我用的句子結構很多都是你用過的 多謝你自婊</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:我他馬的最喜歡打你這種假高尚的人 的臉 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:左岸網軍您好,恭喜您習得+9嘴砲廢文技能,建議你可以跟殷偉一樣應徵個發言人職位,竟然可以所有發言都是毫無中心思想的,顯然腦袋沒什麼料,只顧著攻擊,充分發揮攻擊就是最好的防守戰術,甚至還能任意扭曲別人的言論,一下說我禮拜日還要準備明日工作很淒慘,一下又說我領將近三倍基本薪資過太爽。不過建議你還是趕快回天涯論壇,台灣很危險的,是個鬼島喔~~~ >_^</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:最後送你一句"法輪大法好"~~~快斷線吧~~~來台灣讓你擁有言論自由真是過太爽~~~~掰掰</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:真以為「法輪大法好」可以讓電腦停擺...老弟,你在哪個時代?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:是辣妹=香料女孩的那個時代嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:不過w你講的那些倒是全部戳在giads51上面。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:只顧著攻擊,充分發揮攻擊就是最好的防守戰術,甚至還能任意扭曲別人的言論</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:這是整頁下來最中肯的話了,用在他身上的話。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:話說你講那些會不會被抓去警總XD 啊,我忘了只有你一個人在玩時光錯亂的遊戲</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:左岸左岸的叫,我看有些人是沒看過左岸的極左長啥樣,</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">guest</span><span style="color:#808000">:講起話來資訊全停留在上一個世紀。欸,你到底到過左岸沒有?</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">RenoYeh</span><span style="color:#808000">:推好文。申請個帳號很難嗎,躲在匿名後面嘴砲卸責</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jasonfly185</span><span style="color:#808000">:guest只是個屁而已....去註冊真的難嗎??</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:左岸的極左長啥樣...我是沒看過啦 不過出國憤青我遇過不少 每個都是腫臉而去 有機會來UTA 我請你吃茶啦 順便在打你臉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:薪資 資訊 給的很新阿 我衷心希望 你不是台灣人 這種水平真的我不想跟你同一國阿...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">heart-map</span><span style="color:#808000">:深深體會到 "認真你就輸了" 正在上演著</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uno300</span><span style="color:#808000">:看完就兩點了,明天上班好累</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:我阿 一直不太相信 有所謂的網特 這次算是長見識了 呵呵 ^^"</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:改登入留言人就不見了 果然是打手 ^^"</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:UT的話,我可以考慮和你的教授聊聊,UTA嘛....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:你是說這間在2011年美國商學院排名100以外,2012年就消失於排行榜的學校?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings/page+16" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings/page+16</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://www.abups.com/campus.asp?cu=&dsno=739&topage=5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.abups.com/campus.asp?cu=&dsno=739&topage=5</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:你的伺服器在DENTON,那很難幫你假設是「別的」UTA耶。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:抱歉,「那間」UTA得多花點錢請我過去,才有可能讓你請我喝茶。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:你的觀念和思維怎麼會走到現在的地步,我想癥結已經很明顯了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:就算人在國外,還是別忘本,打字加幾個標點符號不難。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:喇勒時不選字並沒有比較帥,看到之前你提"飯見""腦若",</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">uta</span><span style="color:#808000">:讓我對現在年輕人灰心得很...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">xdgogogo</span><span style="color:#808000">:每個跟你戰的都被你人身批評完了 大家可能也累了沒回你 現在就只剩你一個人自由發揮了 但我還是沒看到你的任何論點耶...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">xdgogogo</span><span style="color:#808000">:不管你是左岸還是網軍還是啥 總是拿點意見出來吧 沒意見的話也不懂你在反駁什麼...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以嘞? 現在要改戰學校?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:還是戰選字? 就不是重點嘛 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:也是啦,你除了人身批評也沒別的戰點了沒標點跟選字也能被戰"忘本"從頭到尾,看你為反而反,完全沒有立論點,還自以為有水準 你就是TOP10的教授 我也他馬的吐你口水 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有臉對年輕人灰心? 我從頭到尾也沒看你有拿出什麼好的觀念跟思維阿 就看你一直在跳針而已 還一付眾人皆醉我獨醒的口氣 令人作嘔阿~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:虧你還在台灣....根本ㄎㄎ</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">zxc2004v</span><span style="color:#808000">:調漲薪資跟廢除派遣我想是台灣勞工界要走的兩大要點,我曾經在工廠處理毒化物(其中有成分是戴奧辛),領半年18K的薪水,我撐不住了‧ 當時我去公司面試,但不是派遣公司派去的,我跟單位主管應徵完,隔天我被掛上派遣公司的名稱,台灣現在的企業絕大多數都用這招,即使你是正常面試進去公司,也會被掛上派遣名義,升正職跟當兵升官一樣,有缺才有升,派遣制度正在腐蝕台灣的勞工體系,我們台灣人底層勞工領的薪水跟外勞差不多,我們大家求的不就是一個付出與得到可以成正比的職場待遇嗎? 如果今天沒有滿街派遣,哪裡來的失業族群呢? 派遣做一輩子都是派遣,沒有任何福利可言,要升正職首先每一個月加班爆30小時以上提高曝光率,持續個2年看看會不會有哪個正職的雖小被車撞死或生病掛彩,等等! 我親戚有人要來應徵,所以你又得持續個幾年看看有沒有人雖小掛彩,前提是你沒被資遣,派遣制度被台灣企業發揮到一個所向披靡無人能敵的境界‧ 抱歉我認真了‧ </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本薪資這議題一出來以後,被各種人以各種觀點去想像,然後也衍生出一堆讓人哭笑不得的言論,這篇文章大概是我看到最荒謬的吧.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:謬論1:基本薪資增加,內需就會增加</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法:薪資增加、物價不增長的情況下,可以預見內需會增加;薪資增加、物價同時飆高的情況下,內需不但不會增加,反而還可能因物價攀升引發社會恐慌。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:舉例來說:小明的薪水從兩萬元增加到三萬元,在物價指數沒有變動的前提下,小明的確多了一萬元的薪水,潛在的內需當然也增加了;但若小明的薪水從兩萬元增加到三萬元,不是因為企業或小明個人努力爭取的薪水,而是政府規定的「全面性調升」,那麼小明即使薪水增加了33%、物價可能也增加了33%,而且小明的存款還會因為高物價而貶值,那麼內需不但不會增加,而且還會因為荷包緊縮,反而造成內需降低。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:謬論2:老闆已經很有錢了,基本薪資從兩萬提高到三萬,頂多讓他少賺點</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法:假設王老闆每年賺120萬,因為員工的薪資成本提高了,王老闆在不提高商品價格的情況下,每年淨收只剩下20萬,但王老闆真的願意冒著風險經營企業卻少賺100萬嗎?這時候王老闆只有三個選擇,以維持他原本每年120萬的收入:</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:1.提高商品售價回復原有利潤,間接也提高物價指數</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:2.結束營運,降低工作機會、提高失業率</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:3.企業外移,降低台灣工作機會、提高台灣失業率、台灣稅收減少、改幫其它國家拼經濟</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:謬論3:基本薪資提高可以促進創業</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法:眾所皆知,自古以來不管是課本還是坊間書籍,都指出低利率、低薪資成本是創業的最佳環境,薪資成本提高必然增加資方的營運成本,何來薪資提高可以促進創業之說?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:謬論4:韓國就是基本薪資比我們高,經濟才會越來越活絡,所以我們的政府應該規定企業給我們的薪水比韓國高</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法:韓國基本薪資是伴隨GDP高成長一路提升的,企業競爭力中很重要的一點是薪資成本,從前中國因低薪資所得吸引外資企業而崛起就是一個很好的例子(較有國際觀的人應該知道,中國成長至今,部份產業的薪資已很自然地向上發展,而且高出台灣許多了)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:謬論5:那麼,政府就規定基本薪資提高,同時叫政府控制物價不准上漲不就好了?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法:那麼,乾脆把台灣的企業主全部混在一起做成撒尿牛丸不就好了?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我認為薪資的高低,在台灣包括全世界的大環境都不佳的情況下(台灣景氣燈號連亮十個藍燈、美國和許多歐洲國家正面臨破產可能性),若政府以法規硬性規定企業主增加薪水,不但讓已經經營困難的企業雪上加霜,還可能引發已經很嚴重的企業外移和倒閉潮,那基本薪資真的不能漲嗎?當然不是,若社會經濟和企業體質狀況良好,企業在大豐收的時候仍然不肯給低薪,那麼調整基本薪資似乎就是一個方法。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:一個國家若有大量企業富有,人民不一定富有,但若一個國家有大量企業都很窮甚至倒閉,人民一定更窮,要在大環境不佳的情況下要拿高薪,最主要還是在於創造自己的不被取代性,而要改善社會體質,除了不斷批評和無謂的漫罵,似乎也應該提出一些可能有益社會的建言?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本上會領基本薪資或以基本薪資來考量薪水的人,大部份是勞力階層的工作,也許薪資跟學歷的價值失衡也有關係,而在學歷價值的淡化下,我對提升薪資所得的想法是「利用法規設定不同的職業證照和門檻」,一來增加勞力階層的差異化,二來因職業證照的需求,將勞力改變為不可輕易取代的人才,勞力若由可輕易被取代的勞工轉變為不可輕易取代的人才,在人才稀有性的情況下,勞力薪資所得自然會提高,舉個例子:如果若開挖土機沒有規定要執照,那麼隨便一個時薪100元的工讀生就可以開,但若開挖土機需要經過專業認證才能得到執照,那麼薪資所得自然會提高。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我相信不認同我的觀點的人,一定比認同我的人多,不過我還是把我的想法打出來,至少我認為我該讓「贊成政府以法規規定基本薪資提高的人」知道「不贊成政府以法規規定基本薪資提高的人」是怎麼想的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:水啦 這才叫討論嘛~~ 有東西 才有思考阿 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:有立論點 才有的討論嘛 不管我認不認同你的想法 我都給你個讚</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法是:基本薪資增加 會提高內需 也會提高物價 但是物價不會膨漲到大於等於基本薪資增加的程度,況且現在台灣的情況是基本薪資太低,造成領基本工資的人消費力薄弱,導致停滯性通膨,這會造成整個經濟體系崩壞</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:再來是,有錢人的總體消費力其實少於一般人總體消費力,因為在人數上有十分巨大的差異,要刺激內需還是要靠多數人,提升基本薪資也是加強社會總體的購買力</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:你也提到,老闆為了保持他的收益,會把增加的成本轉嫁給消費者,但是在合理的薪資漲幅下,人事成本不會吃掉太多的收益,而一般民眾因為增加了購買力,老闆的收益也有增加的幅度,所以物價的膨脹不會大於等於薪資的膨脹</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:這也意味著在大眾購買力增加卻沒有成長還因為人事成本增加還有營運上的困難這種公司會被汰換掉,但是這並不代表其他成長中的公司不會吸收他的員工,這解釋了失業率不會失去控制 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也贊同"低利率、低薪資成本是創業的最佳環境" 但是在一般民眾購買力下降,而想創業的新一代難以增加資本的狀態下,創業根本是空談</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:政府在這中扮演的腳色,不是控制物價不准上漲,而是控制物價緩緩上漲,在緩慢的上漲過程中給予資方調整的空間,那企業的壓力便可得到緩解</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣帶動整體經濟的消費力 也不至於讓資本過於集中 這是我的想法啦~~~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:哇.....這篇竟然從漫罵導回討論了= =</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kinki999</span><span style="color:#808000">:政府裡學者也挺會引經據典的,但原po是講的台灣資方劣根性。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kinki999</span><span style="color:#808000">:上面筆仗那麼多,一樣被台灣資方人性打敗;強制調高只是壓抑資方亂搞的貪念而已。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kinki999</span><span style="color:#808000">:分析那麼多,那些學者開會領便當的分析嘴砲較差? </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">kinki999</span><span style="color:#808000">:先把社會責任灌輸到企業主吧,資方人性別只想貪。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:嘴砲真的不是我們希望看到的啦 要不是有某人在那邊顛三倒四的亂 也不會歪串</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實從會不會關心物價上漲也可以看出一個人的年紀和存款,物價上漲伴隨的問題非常多,其中最直接影響到人民的就是「存款變小了」,舉例來說:小明辛苦工作了十年,每天省吃儉用,終於存到了一百萬,但若物價在人為操作下升高了一倍,那麼小明辛苦工作、省吃儉用的一百萬的價值就瞬間貶值了一半(換個方式想,也就是小明做了五年零薪水的白工)。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:而若企業、富人甚至有能力資產外移的任何人,只要他們預見物價即將上漲,為了規避資產縮水的風險,還會發生大量資金、資產外移等,台灣的錢變少了,相對企業投資、建設、福利都會明顯減少,而且勢必還會發生一連串的消費緊縮,藉由政府規定企業提高薪資讓內需成長更成為一個幻想了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:我相信每個執政黨一定都希望在任內可以將人民基本薪資提高,那這麼簡單的德政為什麼執政黨不敢做呢?現在真的是全球大環境都差,台灣景氣燈號連亮10個藍燈,這是台灣近年來從未發生過的,甚至比前幾年的金融風暴還嚴重,房地產龍頭產業已引發倒閉潮,骨牌效應下的下一個產業會是誰被波及呢?如果在這個動盪不安的時候,政府還增加企業的營運難度、搞亂物價,台灣會不會發生更嚴重的經濟問題呢?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">sacriley</span><span style="color:#808000">:從前菲律賓是東南亞的先進國家,但當初菲律賓政府不知道哪根筋不對,開始以外力干涉企業運作,於是菲律賓變成為現在的樣子了,中華民國的三民主義在資本主義和社會福利主義下模糊不清,社會福利主義的國家雖然有大量的社會福利,但必須繳納超高的稅金,而社會福利主義也必須建立在經濟狀況良好的先進國家,否則高稅金和對企業的過度干預是有可能引起社會動亂的.....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:大家真有主見 不才小弟的想法是 一個國家的所有企業賺到的利潤是固定的 如果這些賺的利潤大部份都分在企業主或股東身上 由於人數少 即使花錢的金額高(其實真的有錢人想的是賺很多錢而不是花錢 累積家產變成是一種成就感) 還是無法讓貨幣流通全國 更不要說有錢人不怎麼花錢了 一個人可以買的東西真的有限 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:那如果這些企業主或股東 把自己的錢分一些給公司的員工 員工就有多的錢可以去買吃的、買衣服、買房子、買車 甚至還可以結婚養得起小孩 即使不是存錢去創業 一樣可以促進經濟繁榮 生意就是有買有賣才會好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:再來說如果大家都有錢了 那是否會有通貨膨脹的問題 我的想法是 如果工廠生產商品或是原物料的速度 跟得上大家買商品的需求的速度 通膨就不會那麼嚴重 如果跟不上(因為生產總是需要時間還有一些企業主的考量)供不應求物價就會上升 如果是短期的(像是颱風期間菜價會上揚)那還好 如果是長期跟不上需求速度就是通貨膨脤了(像大陸之前對於國際原物料的需求造成金屬石油的上揚) 當然這當中也會有投機客人為炒作</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:因此我的想法是 只要薪水的實質購買力(薪水跟物價的比例)有上升就是好的 當然有些企業會想說 既然大家的薪水都漲 那我賣的東西也漲(或是偷料降低成本) 反正我要賺的就是這樣 或是更多 所以物價的抑制必須仰賴政府跟相關民間部門的嚴格把關才行 當然有些企業是不得不漲(因為原料會因國際價格波動 尤其是在利潤不高的產業 不漲就是賠錢) 但是一般來說企業都是很精的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:而失業率的部份 我是覺得由於同樣素質的就業人口很多 沒有什麼差異性 所以企業樂於把員工的薪水定在22k左右 而且調幅有限 因為可替換的人太多了 企業想的是固定薪資一調漲我就裁員 反正原來的工作就分給其他人 所以我同意建立有配套有規模的證照制度來提升差異性 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:另外 有錢人也會算 如果物價持續上漲 我的錢就會縮水 所以大多用來置產或是轉投資 所以進一步推升地價跟房價 買的土地跟房子 因為要繳的稅少得不成比例 加上買來又可以轉手或是炒作 所以穩賺不賠(只要自己用低成本入手 高價出脫 自己不是最後買的人就行) 這方面真的需要實價課稅才有辦法 不然大家都只能去住房價低的城市通勤上班了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:產業競爭力的部份 我是覺得政府要多花心思在產業創新、研發跟優惠稅率上面 一個企業如果沒有創新或是專利 就會走下坡(除非是某些壟斷的國營企業…) 一般民眾沒有錢 貸款又要有相對的抵押品 所以創業很困難 再加上競爭者勢力強大(有錢的企業有錢又有資源) 所以一定要政府扶植 而不是把重心都壓在某些產業 利潤不高只能靠量大來賺錢 一旦接不到單就沒生意 不然就是一堆賣不出去的庫存</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">allhappy</span><span style="color:#808000">:我覺得台灣是很有機會的 台灣人認真勤奮 有技術 生產成本相對低 選擇好一個產業 像韓國一樣全力投入發展 然後利潤合理分配(我覺得薪資要跟付出的程度成正比…) 也未必不會有再一次的台灣奇蹟</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實會關心這個議題的很多都是知識分子 多多集思廣益 真的 搞不好會出現奇蹟</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">laka</span><span style="color:#808000">:低技術人力成本就應該低?←我認為這點是錯的</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實地產業會開始倒 就是停滯性通膨的警訊 美國次貸風暴 剛開始也是這樣 我真的越看越怕 我怕等我完成學業工作若干年後 我的故鄉已經面目全非了....</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:物價當然是一個很嚴峻的問題,尤其是對於多數收入不高的老百姓來說更是如此,所以各國政府和央行才會傾全力控制,別讓物價攀升快速,這個我國央行表現就真的不錯!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:但 央行只能控制貨幣數量與流通速度,但是供給面如石油和原物料等就根本不是政府和央行所能掌控的! 上面那位匿名跳針老兄就有提到三十年前的通膨情況,相比今天當然非常嚴重,但那絕非是因為調漲基本工資的關係,而是70年代末所發生的石油危機所導致,別那壺不開提那壺</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">laka</span><span style="color:#808000">:另外,問題可以要分內需與外銷來看,現在不漲薪越來越多便當族,做餐飲的怎麼辦?如果漲薪,便當族變外食族錢多少會流到餐飲去</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:基本工資調漲固然不會影響到收入較高的人,但這政策所代表的意義是,即使今天先不論人民生產力如何,工作效率有多高,這意義所代表的是在一個國家生活所需成本的"最低"界限,並非員工一定要具有相當程度的能力才能領到這樣的薪資。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:其實油電雙漲 真的是一個很王八蛋的決策 真的寧願事後拿納稅人的錢去補 也不要就這樣一次性的漲足 這對通膨而言根本是火上澆油</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為物價不斷在調漲,最低程度的薪資水準當然也要跟著調漲,不然只會落入貧窮線之下,調漲基本工資的真正意義在此!而這政策卻總是被倒向資方所說的:勞方自己不爭氣,自己憑什麼要求漲工資?搞到最後變成張飛打岳飛,變成一團筆戰也不意外了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:參考:<a href="http://disp.cc/b/PttFB#!163-3qWx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://disp.cc/b/PttFB#!163-3qWx</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:最後一張圖</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">nksp</span><span style="color:#808000">:低技術人力成本就應該低? 澳洲台勞表示:</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">k32123</span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:要考慮的真的不該是技術力 應該是收益 人力成本在台灣站的%數真的太低了 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">giads51</span><span style="color:#808000">:看看統一這麼賺 7-11需要多少人力? 他的人事成本 我印象中沒有過30% 他24小時便利商店還全年無休 需要這麼大的人事支出 結果 人力成本沒有過50%...當超商店員還要包山包海 什麼都要會 還拿基本工資(我真的幹過 3個月 我就逃了 去迪化街當小弟賣南北貨去了)</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">owts99</span><span style="color:#808000">:專業推</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我不知道為什麼一直會有人認為增加薪資會讓民生必需品漲得比薪資增加幅度還要高,物價決定於供需和製造成本,當薪資增加的時候,民生必須品的供需其實不會有太大的改變,因為台灣人民早就脫離餐餐吃不飽的日子,很多現代人都還過胖咧,薪資增加了並不會顯著讓民生必需品的需求增加太多。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:既然供需沒有變,而且民生必需品幾乎都逼近於"完全競爭市場",這時影響民生必需品的價格的主要因素就在於薪資在民生必需品所佔的成本比例,餐飲業算是人力成本佔非常高的,但通常不會超過50%,所以我才敢大膽的說,薪資漲一倍,便當不會漲超過五成,當然薪資不可能一次漲一倍,必須分次慢慢漲避免廠商無法適應,但長期來看,漲薪資並無法讓民生必需品的漲得比薪資幅度還高。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:至於sacriley說提升基本薪資會讓慣老闆調高物價、或是逃到其他國家去,我覺得根本沒差啊,上面已經說了在民生必需品裡,物價再怎麼漲都不會超過薪資成長幅度,除非聯合壟斷一起漲,不過這和基本薪資就沒關係了,就算不調薪也可以聯合壟斷,這就是公平會的事情了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:若老闆要外移也OK啊,本來台灣薪資要進到先進國家水準就是要把產業區位移動到微笑曲線的兩端,也就是研發智慧財產端與行銷服務端,但台灣很多產業都還卡在代工裡,綁住了大量的台灣人力,但又無法替台灣人帶來更好的薪資水準,最近又再哭說外勞不夠多,薪資要鬆綁。繼續讓這種企業控制我們的政府根本就是在害台灣。還不如讓基本薪資提升,企業假如要留在台灣反而會強迫自己往更高獲利的產品走,至少台灣人的教育水準也普遍不錯,台灣三十年前都可以有大量的中小企業誕生,不曉得為什麼現在就不能新創產業取代原有大量的代工產業。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:至於薪資成本高和無法創業也無任何關係,在網路時代裡創業最重要的是創新想法,而不是廉價勞工,Yahoo、FB、Google這些新創企業竟然是在薪資成本台灣高出好幾倍的美國創立的,研發憤怒鳥的Rovio更是在賦稅極重的芬蘭創立的,員工薪資比美國還高,但公司還是賺翻了。至於中國薪資成本就很低,但反而到現在還沒聽到有什麼國際品牌企業。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:簡單的說若國家太保護企業,就好像池水優養化,因為養分太多,反而水藻和浮游生物大增把氧氣消耗掉,反而無法孕育出任何一條大魚。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:假如員工無法賺到可以累積資本的地步,那一般人根本無法創業,只會形成新封建制度。像美國就很流行車庫創業,有錢有閒絕對是創業的必要條件。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:那台灣薪水和各國相比是否真的太低,前面就有提到這個連結</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://jimabc.pixnet.net/blog/post/30078079" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://jimabc.pixnet.net/blog/post/30078079</a></span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:光看這個就飽了,可以發現台灣製造業衰退並不算嚴重,但是薪資嚴重下滑,通膨也沒比別人低,說調薪資會嚴重增加通膨,在"CPI成長率與勞工薪資成長率的比較圖"馬上就破解了,絕大多數的國家薪資一直增加,但是通膨沒有比台灣增加多少,這波世界性的通膨很大因素根本就是美國亂印鈔票,結果台灣還不加薪,結果就是通膨超越薪資成長幅度,造成台灣身陷停滯性通膨之中。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:最後sacriley提到企業賺錢就會挺員工,所以我們要共體時艱,我看撐不到那天了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法和你不一樣,一個公司會虧錢,老闆要負最大的責任,若一直無法改善,最負責的做法就是換一個老闆,直接要把公司賣給其他有能力的人。就像是現在政府做不好,難道就要推給人民、推給公務員、推給大環境?當然是換人做啊,後面一大堆人等著要做呢,還死皮爛臉在位子上做啥?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:假如老闆做的爛還沒受到懲罰,最有可能的結果絕對不是大環境會自動變好,然後公司就會自動賺錢,看看茂德,死拖活拖,政府幫了那麼多忙,還不是撐不下去,本來早點倒,公司還不會欠銀行那麼多債,現在才倒,債務滾到這麼大,看要怎麼收拾。而且台灣薪資在金融海嘯前都沒什麼成長了,難道會有任何理由相信經濟好轉後薪水就會增加?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:所以我覺得公司爛就趕快倒,老闆何德何能能領比員工多這麼多的薪水?就是因為老闆要擔負風險,要應付商場上無情的競爭,假如老闆不要負擔風險,也不用競爭,那當然剩下的都是慣老闆。只會靠壓榨員工獲利,而靠壓榨員工獲利的公司是永遠不可能主動調薪的,因為這可是公司的獲利來源咧。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:還有sacriley一直把通膨講得超嚴重,其實經濟要發展本來就要適度通膨,通縮才是真正沒救的,而且只有通縮才會造成消費緊縮,建議真的好好去找一下經濟學的相關知識。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為通縮的時候手上鈔票的價值會不斷增大,所以大家會瘋狂把錢存到銀行裡不花,其實就有點像是銀行利率18%那樣的效果,反而會發生嚴重的消費緊縮,因為花了就虧,房子也買了就虧,買任何的資產都虧。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:通膨則相反,當有錢人發現要通膨的時候反而賺更多,更絕對不會發生什麼資產外移的鬼事,反而熱錢會瘋狂湧入,因為有錢人和投機客可以把通貨(錢)換成資產,像是房子、股票、骨董,等房價狂飆,大撈一筆,就像是現在的台北一樣,陸資瘋狂近來炒房,若不是台灣的CPI在房地產的比重很低,不然台灣的CPI早就破表了。結果其實通膨才是真正能促進資本家大賺特賺的時候,跟你講的完全相反,只是泡泡破掉之後迎接的恐怕是跟日本一樣的失落二十年。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:現在一大堆國家經濟很慘的罪魁禍首也絕對不是所謂的社會福利開支,只要跟北歐一樣稅夠重,並且對於企業進行適度管制,國家財政和經濟根本不會有什麼問題,和你講得相反,依瑞典經驗,他們可是對於銀行業高度管制的,推行比其他地區更嚴格的資本適足率,並提高了抵押貸款的加權風險,所以這次才能躲過歐債風暴。我的想法還是和你相反,只要政府夠公正和廉潔,就應該對於企業進行適度管制,這次金融海嘯知道是誰搞出來的嗎?就是華爾街那些銀行大老闆搞出來的,為什麼樓子桶這麼大?就是美國政府和他們的金融業上下交相賊,放任銀行搞高風險的次級房貸,鼓勵超貸,用超高槓桿完金融遊戲,助長房市泡沫,並且毫無管制。捅了樓子才要美國政府來救,開印鈔機,造成全世界的通膨,導致全球物價一直漲。我覺得全世界大部分的老闆都一個樣,降稅、對企業鬆綁的結果就是世界毀滅。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:我覺得在媒體上讀到的經濟學都是資本家的經濟學,基本上當笑話看看就好,經濟學的真正定義是指一定範圍內,組織一切生產、分配、流通和消費活動與關係的系統之總稱,也就是要怎麼生產、生產什麼,要怎麼分配薪資和商品、要怎麼促進流通,才不是資本家經濟學裡面的只要cost down然後靠市場機制就可以經濟大好。人盡其才、地盡其利、物盡其用、貨暢其流這才是真的經濟學,結果依照老闆的資本家經濟學一切都毀了:</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:台勞太貴了,用外勞 -> 失業</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:炒房炒到沒人買得起 -> 空屋</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:商品每年推陳出新 -> 手機都用不了一年就要換了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:完全顛倒啊,真的不要再被老闆的資本家經濟學洗腦了,對於企業加強管制,要求企業履行社會責任,台灣才有未來。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:喔~~~對了,sacriley一直提到加薪會造成通膨會讓社會大亂,看看台灣之前面對石油危機怎麼做的,1973年石油危機的時候物價大漲50%,經濟成長率也從12.88%大幅衰退到1.38%,你知道當時後的台灣政府怎麼做嗎?就是加公務員薪資,而且一年就狂加20%,假如sacriley的講法成立的話,那台灣物價應該再往上漲個好幾倍並且動亂不斷,台灣就會變菲律賓而沒有台灣經濟奇蹟了。而且之後政府持續不斷的狂加薪,十年間漲為原來的四倍,並且後來證明帶動了台灣的內需產業。歷史都明明白白的擺在眼前了,還要再相信現在的資本家經濟學嗎?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼調整基本薪資的政策這麼簡單,但現在的政府不做呢?世界上大部分的國家政府都和財團有勾結,這些財團可是重要的政治獻金來源,但幾乎沒有國家政府像台灣政府一樣,政府==財團,國民黨自己持有的股票市值至少三百億,可是台灣企業大股東咧,每年坐擁股利好幾十億,財經內閣當然也變成財團內閣,用資本家經濟學治國,檯面上的財經官員幾乎每個都是資本家,怎麼可能會去砍自己既得利益的事情呢?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:通膨對於民眾有感只有兩個時候,一種是惡性通膨,商品一日數價,貨幣的基本信用價值已經不存在。另外一種就是通膨超過薪資成長的時候。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為美國最近數年一直狂印美鈔,美鈔又是世界貨幣,根本不可能阻止這種世界性的通膨,唯一避免通膨禍害的方法當然就是增加基本薪資,讓薪資增加幅度超過通膨,可以看前面的鏈結,幾乎世界各國都這麼做的。至於一直被sacriley提到的存款會縮水,實際上沒有國家在擔心這種問題,存款過度累積本來就不是好事,當然信用過度擴張也不是好事,但通膨的時候有錢人自然就會把錢轉投資到其他資產上面,炒個房賺更多,沒錢買房也可以買股票,再沒錢也可以買黃金,反而促進資金流通。</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:我也贊成加薪,我沒有讀很多書,我不談理論,如果說的不好請指教</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:我覺得22K是政府最大的錯誤決策,可能原本會有更高薪資的工作,因為22K政策,老闆名正言順的只給你22K,工讀生薪水再高也有限,但正職員工領這麼少,我很難想像要怎麼過生活,以我的經驗剝皮老闆真的不少,我就不舉例了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:加薪對中小企業比較有影響,如果員工在五人以內,22K加到30K,每個月增加支出四萬以內,每年增加不到五十萬,對老闆來說可能短時間少換一款車,但是這五個員工每個月增加將近一萬的"消費力",如果全台灣的老闆都這樣,這樣有沒有擴大內需?長時間來說對老闆也是有互利共生,如果五十萬老闆拿去買車,買奢侈品,那些錢就是從一個有錢人的口袋,換到另一個有錢人的口袋,我哥有一次跟我說:這件T恤印象中是我二十年前社團做的。我就笑他,你這樣怎麼振興台灣經濟XD,一個人花掉五十萬,五十個人花掉一千,效益值我認為是不一樣的。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:但是對真正的大公司,其實影響並沒有很大,我目前是某科技廠的廠商的員工,科技廠的員工就不說了,這邊為科技廠工作的"廠商",員工的薪水大多都超過30K,可能我這間是單一個案,不過我想,大家都說科技廠是血汗工廠,但是還是隔一段時間就有很多新鮮的肝,會持續不斷的補充進來,薪水可能是主要原因吧!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:就影響層面來說,加薪只是政府願不願意做,而不是能不能做的問題而已。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:題外話~其實台灣有很多工作收入很高,但是可能很累,比較辛苦,"大學生"不願意"屈就",服務業在非常低薪的情況下,還是能夠請的到員工,這也是惡性循環的環節之一...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Watson</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒錯啊,把錢分給員工才能真正擴大內需,因為員工會把加薪的錢大部分花在民生必需品上面,民生必需品絕大部分都是國內的廠商在生產,當然可以刺激經濟,但給老闆的話,買進口跑車、進口包,反而錢都給外國人賺走了,到底要給誰才能刺激國內經濟,相信大家都能分辨,千萬不要再被資本家經濟學洗腦了。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">west7356</span><span style="color:#808000">:資方二代以後都是外國人,澳洲、英國、加拿大</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">west7356</span><span style="color:#808000">:資方房產遍佈大安區</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">gordon206</span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO又是一個無腦的689,台灣『實質』平均薪資早就超過3萬了,馬政府不願提升基本薪資,只是巴結企業而已,讓企業節省勞健保費用罷了,現在多少企業幫員工都是用法定最低薪資投保阿。連這都不懂~唉~689就是689,難怪會選出這樣的政府。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">treebowow7</span><span style="color:#808000">:BBS版的好處,就是推文的字數有限。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Neptune</span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然將薪資調漲是一種方式,但企業一定會拿此藉口大漲物價,對資方來說就是不能少賺。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jackytung</span><span style="color:#808000">:這個跟油電雙掌不一樣,油電是不可或缺的民生用品,目前無法取代,如果該企業的產品有不可取代的地位,他才有可能跟風跟著漲價,畢竟又不只他家在賣,他家比較貴,我可以換別家消費吧?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為有人回文說到德國</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:我就稍微回一下</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:各國的經濟有他們各自的問題</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:因為只要我們還是人</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:就有人會去鑽漏洞</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:沒有一條法律/規定能夠達到理想鄉</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:但是呢</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:二戰後、德、義、日都相繼付出他們的代價</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:可是很神奇的是、德國的經濟沒有垮</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:到了現在他們的經濟狀況還是歐盟的第一</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:義大利變成了拖累歐盟的兇手之一</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:日本的經濟在美國的幫助下衝的太快</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:泡泡吹的太快,破掉了</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:僅管如此、日本依然是每年都在加薪</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:我的想法是最低薪資每年都要調</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:多少我不清楚、但是至少要有一顆茶葉蛋的距離</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:請搞清楚法定的是最低基本薪資、不是實際薪資</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:不是所有人都是用最低薪資工作好不好</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:就算是所謂的22k不變</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:還是高於最低基本工資的一萬八千多</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">z127506754</span><span style="color:#808000">:真不知道資方打手在反對什麼- -"</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
Re: [灌水] 看來真的有人很討厭DISP
http://disp.cc/b/254-4q31
2012-09-21T11:24:12+08:00
2012-09-21T11:24:12+08:00
批萬每次一掛都得來一次小規模游擊戰嗎=3=
不過這是研討 BBS 生態的好時機X|D...
看到推文才知道,
有人認為推文中、文章中看到的 Disp 連結,
是 Disp 派去的打字工、廣告工耶...。
這是標題的原因之一嗎? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [灌水] 看來真的有人很討厭DISP<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年09月21日 Fri. AM 11:24:12</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《yukitowu》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 不知道為什麼=3=</span>
批萬每次一掛都得來一次小規模游擊戰嗎=3=
不過這是研討 BBS 生態的好時機X|D...
看到推文才知道,
有人認為推文中、文章中看到的 Disp 連結,
是 Disp 派去的打字工、廣告工耶...。
這是標題的原因之一嗎?
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-09-21 11:24:12</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:就ott很常到處在文章下面推Disp的相關文章連結 有跟他說過幾次了可是他堅持要貼就是了 XD 我也不喜歡被人說是有請工讀生在貼廣告啊...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:ott我有印象 原來我常看到他的文章是這個原因啊...</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">abc1231qa</span><span style="color:#808000">:痾.......阿德好有錢 請得起工讀生耶 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈</span></div></pre>
cuteman0725.
Re: [問題] DISP會不會取代PTT呢?
http://disp.cc/b/254-4q1i
2012-09-21T10:07:50+08:00
2012-09-21T10:56:15+08:00
先不提人氣上的議題
web和telnet協定是有差別的
web: user 連上後,一段時間沒做事資源就會釋放
telnet: user 連上後,只要不自已斷線,掛著一整天也會耗著連線資源
如果用 ptt 的設備來跑 disp ,是有可能容納到30萬人以上。
因為不用擔心一些user掛著出門或掛在上面睡覺。
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◆ From: 113.97.160.39
→ yukitowu:... 推 61.220.24.37 09/21 10:10
→ aishryu:XD 推223.139.198.215 09/21 10:11
→ smalltwo:鬼扯...釋放掉那怎會有30萬 推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:13
釋放掉還是會有seesion啊...user的畫面上還是有bbs
session 30萬不奇怪,之前 FDZ 的人數也是這樣
→ smal ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> cuteman0725 (發呆) 看板: SYSOP
<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [問題] DISP會不會取代PTT呢?
<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Sep 21 10:07:50 2012
</div><hr color="#008080" />
先不提人氣上的議題
web和telnet協定是有差別的
web: user 連上後,一段時間沒做事資源就會釋放
telnet: user 連上後,只要不自已斷線,掛著一整天也會耗著連線資源
如果用 ptt 的設備來跑 disp ,是有可能容納到30萬人以上。
因為不用擔心一些user掛著出門或掛在上面睡覺。
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《dagoma (阿盛)》之銘言:
</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 如題,PTT的身體狀況似乎越來越不樂觀,
</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 但是DISP正在茁壯中,
</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 我真的覺得DISP未來發展性很好,
</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 有沒有機會取代PTT呢?
</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 發信站: 批踢踢兔(ptt2.cc)
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◆ From: 113.97.160.39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:... </span>推 61.220.24.37 09/21 10:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">aishryu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span>推223.139.198.215 09/21 10:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鬼扯...釋放掉那怎會有30萬 </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:13
釋放掉還是會有seesion啊...user的畫面上還是有bbs
session 30萬不奇怪,之前 FDZ 的人數也是這樣
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那樣是30萬具屍體,不是30萬個user </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:16
那p1上面一堆佔著連線人不在家的資源不也是一樣的道理?
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">phantom23</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:閱 </span>推 114.25.64.4 09/21 10:17
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: cuteman0725 來自: 113.97.160.39 (09/21 10:19)
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:差多了.網路使用者的本體是電腦,電腦還 </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:開著定時會做動作系統認定他是活人那是 </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:對的,但是web界面上的那些屍體基本上是 </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Coke0605</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:撿不到的 </span>推 114.34.223.32 09/21 10:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:類似離線作業,如果p1可以承受十萬人同 </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:時貼廢文的話.改web系統連一千人都稱不 </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">smalltwo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:了.這樣的三十萬屍體有啥意義?? </span>推 113.196.48.18 09/21 10:28
我不認為以 64G 的 RAM而言不能承受這個多人
Disp最早才2G 都可以到一千人了
而且用屍體來說也不太對,畢竟使用者是在站上沒錯。
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">prestige1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:文字介面跟圖形介面差很大好嗎 @@ </span>推 122.146.13.190 09/21 10:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">SiriusN4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:等webSocket成熟了再來講.... </span>推 61.31.193.1 09/21 10:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">SiriusN4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要不然web是沒啥及時互動性可言 </span>推 61.31.193.1 09/21 10:31
AJAX 就可以做的到啊...不然聊天室靠啥吃飯?
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: cuteman0725 來自: 113.97.160.39 (09/21 10:35)
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">prestige1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:畫面轉換速度快到跟手指按的速度一樣 </span>推 122.146.13.190 09/21 10:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">prestige1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這就差不多惹 </span>推 122.146.13.190 09/21 10:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shadow0963</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你什麼系的阿?我想知道你什麼系的才 </span>推 114.46.80.113 09/21 10:36
小的不是什麼學生...
只是業界的工程師一枚,只是從網路的理論上來說明。
當然你不認同我的看法也是你的自由
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: cuteman0725 來自: 113.97.160.39 (09/21 10:41)
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">iceseed</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:問我什麼系的 我是永康賈柏斯欸 </span>推 140.116.96.64 09/21 10:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">prestige1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:網頁版真的慢好多....自己用用看巴 </span>推 122.146.13.190 09/21 10:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">xxxg00w0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:撿不到的 </span>推 121.254.76.132 09/21 10:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:.............亂扯一堆= = </span>推 09/21 10:43
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:linux架文字介面server需要的成本非常低 </span>推 09/21 10:43
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:再用distributed計算+網路去跑 躺著都贏 </span>推 09/21 10:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:disp那種網頁 當然我是不知道ptt有沒有 </span>推 09/21 10:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:玩這麼大 畢竟都是廢文xdd 玩分散式恐有 </span>推 09/21 10:47
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ru04ul4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那可不可以固定時間踢掉所有使用者 </span>推 123.193.110.2 09/21 10:47
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:浪費預算之嫌 </span>推 09/21 10:47
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:痾 我認真了 </span>推 09/21 10:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:"從網路的理論上來說明" OS : … </span>推 09/21 10:49
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→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:站長啊 你來教他一下好嗎...</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:web還是吃比較多資源啊...尤其是我的技術又不強...現在用到8G了也只能稱到兩三千人應該是不及格 囧 </span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:不過web可以用好幾台主機來分散負載,telnet好像就只能用一台</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ukfa</span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道 telnet 可否用 loading balance? </span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">uyn</span><span style="color:#808000">:ptt一直當下去,人潮無法繼續維持,就會轉移陣地了.</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">cuteman0725</span><span style="color:#808000">:好吧...其實我是在PO[0b]唬爛[/]文的...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteman0725</span><span style="color:#808000">:想說批萬[d]死[/d]掛了批兔廢文一堆,就PO了[0b]唬爛[/]文。</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteman0725</span><span style="color:#808000">:然後就一堆[d]認真魔[/d]人很敬業的回我文...</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">cuteman0725</span><span style="color:#808000">:目前已離開現場...(怕被打)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">JJLi</span><span style="color:#808000">:給CUTEMAN:雖然沒有取代的問題,不過DISP想發展還是很有機會的…</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">JJLi</span><span style="color:#808000">:這陣子就準備要來試驗PTT→DISP→FB台中板的收文可行性</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">JJLi</span><span style="color:#808000">:PTT的WEB板…說真的有夠難看的(小聲)</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:喔喔 搭配FB專頁是個不錯的方向 我也有弄個八卦板專頁 XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:我在想Q麵要不要來用個西洽的FB專頁 XD</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">seopen</span><span style="color:#808000">:除了人數的容納之外 歷史資料的備份也是一個問題點吧 不然掛了.很多東西就不見了~"~</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">aaron1107</span><span style="color:#808000">:PTT可以上嚕</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">abc1231qa</span><span style="color:#808000">:有趣的討論串 說實在的 成功的網站都不是技術最強的 看看那精美的FB..........</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:FB的技術強到登天了吧...有看過FB因為人太多變慢或停機維護的嗎</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:反而plurk就常常這樣...</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">RenoYeh</span><span style="color:#808000">:FB的技術怎麼可能弱XD</span></div></pre>
dagoma.
[問題] DIPS會不會取代PTT呢?
http://disp.cc/b/254-4q1j
2012-09-21T09:13:25+08:00
2012-09-21T10:12:14+08:00
如題,PTT的身體狀況似乎越來越不樂觀,
但是DISP正在茁壯中,
我真的覺得DISP未來發展性很好,
有沒有機會取代PTT呢? ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> SYSOP </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> dagoma (阿盛)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [問題] DIPS會不會取代PTT呢?<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Fri Sep 21 09:13:25 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
如題,PTT的身體狀況似乎越來越不樂觀,
但是DISP正在茁壯中,
我真的覺得DISP未來發展性很好,
有沒有機會取代PTT呢?
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 發信站: 批踢踢兔(ptt2.cc) </span>
◆ From: 125.230.218.53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dalyadam</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不可能 end </span>推 122.118.91.188 09/21 09:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">wahaha99</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:做同樣的事的話, disp的loading會高於 </span>推 1.34.41.207 09/21 09:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">U2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:no 才幾個人而已就lag得要死 </span>推 118.170.41.167 09/21 09:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">wahaha99</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PTT吧? 要容納同樣人口很困難 </span>推 1.34.41.207 09/21 09:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gotohikaru</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:差很大吧 </span>推 114.43.22.38 09/21 09:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">long201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人統計過像巴哈與M01的最大人數嗎?? </span>推 114.34.36.216 09/21 09:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">long201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果從他們的同時瀏覽人數.... </span>推 114.34.36.216 09/21 09:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">long201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大概能推算出要容納幾十萬人還不LAG... </span>推 114.34.36.216 09/21 09:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">long201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:需要怎麼樣的設備.... </span>推 114.34.36.216 09/21 09:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">long201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:BBS因為純文字的關係,負擔相對較低 </span>推 114.34.36.216 09/21 09:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">frank123ya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:甲賽吧 等DISP能破五萬人不LAG再說 </span>推123.193.182.136 09/21 09:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">purpleboy01</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:DISP跟PTT差很多吧... </span>推 118.171.95.230 09/21 09:25
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">tim855042</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這問題每次都有人問 每次都是贏不暸 </span>推 114.27.29.44 09/21 09:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">pemit</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:同樣的容量,disp本要夠粗才行 </span>推 221.120.2.177 09/21 09:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">pttdog</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:DIPS 都是PTT轉文 自己站文章根本沒人 </span>推 114.43.193.89 09/21 09:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">pluf</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:DISP不會贏的 </span>推 114.36.155.20 09/21 09:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hyper5</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:某摳寧 </span>推 124.248.205.16 09/21 09:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kee32</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不口年 </span>推 163.30.119.84 09/21 09:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">rei196</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這是就可嗎 </span>推 110.29.18.76 09/21 09:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">chrstine</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Disp都要學雨狗偷偷在推文中宣傳了,你 </span>推 42.74.118.71 09/21 09:58
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">badbadook</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 沒屌大老願意捐錢搞升級系統嗎 </span>推118.168.217.214 09/21 09:59
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yukitowu
[灌水] WiiU發表會結束!!
http://disp.cc/b/254-4lzt
2012-09-13T15:50:38+08:00
2012-09-13T15:50:38+08:00
2012年 12/8 正式發售!
分為Premium的專業包跟基本包兩種,內含東西有些不同
Basic版26250日圓,
Premium版31500日圓。
都不含雙節棍w ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] WiiU發表會結束!!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年09月13日 Thu. PM 03:50:38</div><hr color="#008080" />
2012年 12/8 正式發售!
分為Premium的專業包跟基本包兩種,內含東西有些不同
Basic版26250日圓,
Premium版31500日圓。
都不含雙節棍w
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-09-13 15:50:38</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[Disp] 一早進不來
http://disp.cc/b/254-4lxc
2012-09-13T13:46:12+08:00
2012-09-13T13:46:12+08:00
不知道發生什麼事=3= ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [Disp] 一早進不來<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年09月13日 Thu. PM 01:46:12</div><hr color="#008080" />
不知道發生什麼事=3=
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-09-13 13:46:12</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ukfa</span><span style="color:#808000">:感覺是 DB 掛點?!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:是有寫資料庫無法讀取之類的訊息沒錯啦</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">ukfa</span><span style="color:#808000">:連不到 DB 的可能性太多了,不過 error 頁的訊息還是改一下比較好!</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:啊 現在才看到 不過我也忘了那天發生什麼事了 XD</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[灌水] Fx 15 Release
http://disp.cc/b/254-4e57
2012-08-29T00:53:36+08:00
2012-08-29T00:53:36+08:00
公開了!
據說此版對於 Memory leak 的問題有解了www ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] Fx 15 Release<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年08月29日 Wed. AM 12:53:36</div><hr color="#008080" />
公開了!
據說此版對於 Memory leak 的問題有解了www
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-08-29 00:53:36</span></div></pre>
robertabcd.
[公告] 8/27 8-12 批踢踢暫停服務
http://disp.cc/b/254-4cVZ
2012-08-26T14:53:33+08:00
2012-08-26T15:43:46+08:00
8/27 (一) AM 08:00 - PM 12:00 批踢踢進行維護
主要是更換部分硬體 嘗試解決這陣子系統不穩的問題
屆時 web 版也將無法使用 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> SYSOP </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> robertabcd (robert)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [公告] 8/27 8-12 批踢踢暫停服務<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Aug 26 14:53:33 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
8/27 (一) AM 08:00 - PM 12:00 批踢踢進行維護
主要是更換部分硬體 嘗試解決這陣子系統不穩的問題
屆時 web 版也將無法使用
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) </span>
◆ From: 140.112.30.38
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">robertabcd</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Announce</span> 08/26 14:53</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">VOT1077</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:VOT1077 轉錄至臉書... </span> 114.34.93.170 08/26 14:55
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">VOT1077</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至某隱形看板</span> 08/26 14:58</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">a3225737</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至某隱形看板</span> 08/26 15:01</span>
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<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">tdjpl</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 ChungYu-01</span> 08/26 15:19</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">syelle37</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 SNSD</span> 08/26 15:19</span>
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">WeAntiTVBS</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原來不是因為27.5 </span> 114.24.199.109 08/26 15:27
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yukitowu
[Disp] 轉貼
http://disp.cc/b/254-4aTb
2012-08-22T10:03:56+08:00
2012-08-22T10:03:56+08:00
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●20741 10 8/22 kopune □ [閒聊] [藏獒][鐵手套][下手不知輕重]
上次因為圖被轉貼到 @2ch 所以爆流量,
這次也有人直接把預載的圖拿去貼了...。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [Disp] 轉貼<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年08月22日 Wed. AM 10:03:56</div><hr color="#008080" />
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●20741 10 8/22 kopune □ [閒聊] [藏獒][鐵手套][下手不知輕重]
上次因為圖被轉貼到 @2ch 所以爆流量,
這次也有人直接把預載的圖拿去貼了...。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-08-22 10:03:56</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:喔喔 有防外連了呀 在ptt網頁版顯示不出來</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">yukitowu</span><span style="color:#808000">:網頁版不會顯示 不過在BBS點擊應該還是可以開吧w?</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:有設成沒有refer的時候不會擋 所以bbs點擊可以開</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[Disp] 進站畫面
http://disp.cc/b/254-48T4
2012-08-17T10:50:11+08:00
2012-08-17T10:50:11+08:00
好棒X|D ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [Disp] 進站畫面<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年08月17日 Fri. AM 10:50:11</div><hr color="#008080" />
好棒X|D
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-08-17 10:50:11</span>
推 <span style="color:#FF0">Knuckles</span><span style="color:#808000">:快去看電影呀 XD</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[灌水] FTC:Facebook應用程式驗證標章騙人的!
http://disp.cc/b/254-4818
2012-08-15T14:51:16+08:00
2012-08-15T14:51:16+08:00
http://www.ithome.com.tw/itadm/article.php?c=75537
雖然說付費的的確是開發人員,
但是實際上受害的是使用者啊...。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] FTC:Facebook應用程式驗證標章騙人的!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年08月15日 Wed. PM 02:51:16</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="http://www.ithome.com.tw/itadm/article.php?c=75537" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.ithome.com.tw/itadm/article.php?c=75537</a>
雖然說付費的的確是開發人員,
但是實際上受害的是使用者啊...。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-08-15 14:51:16</span></div></pre>
anarchy87
[分享]這真的很嚴重;旺中事件整理
http://disp.cc/b/254-435Y
2012-07-31T23:53:30+08:00
2012-08-01T10:12:05+08:00
我只想向那些看不清楚嚴重性、一附事不關己的人引述一段Martin Niemoeller的話:
Martin Niemoeller是二戰後在德國納粹荼毒下僥倖存活的牧師 他說:
起初,他們捉(鬥)共產黨員,我不說話, 因為我不是共產黨員;
後來,他們捉(鬥)工會會員,我也不說話, 因為我沒有參加工會;
後來,他們捉(殺)猶太人, 我也不說話, 因為我是日耳曼人;
後來,他們捉(抹黑)天主教徒,我還是不說話,因為我是新教徒。
最後,等到他們來捉我時,已經沒有人能夠為我說話了。
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558415_329564240470073_592266820_n.jpg
當國家多數媒體&播出平台 被這種媒體集團壟斷時 會有多可怕你們能想像嗎?
相關的事件影像與記錄
蔡衍明:六四不是屠殺
http://la.worldjournal.com/view/full_la/17334760/article-%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%EF%BC%9A%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;">
我只想向那些<span style="color:#F0F000">看不清楚嚴重性、一附事不關己</span>的人引述一段Martin Niemoeller的話:
Martin Niemoeller是二戰後在德國納粹荼毒下僥倖存活的牧師 他說:
<span style="color:#808080">起初,他們捉(鬥)共產黨員,我不說話, 因為我不是共產黨員;
後來,他們捉(鬥)工會會員,我也不說話, 因為我沒有參加工會;
後來,他們捉(殺)猶太人, 我也不說話, 因為我是日耳曼人;
後來,他們捉(抹黑)天主教徒,我還是不說話,因為我是新教徒。
最後,等到他們來捉我時,已經沒有人能夠為我說話了。</span>
<a href="http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558415_329564240470073_592266820_n.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558415_329564240470073_592266820_n.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:480px;height:360px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558415_329564240470073_592266820_n.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F00000">當國家多數媒體&播出平台 被這種媒體集團壟斷時 會有多可怕你們能想像嗎?</span>
<span style="font-size:24px;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#F0F000">相關的事件影像與記錄</span></span>
<span style="color:#008080">蔡衍明:六四不是屠殺</span>
<a href="http://la.worldjournal.com/view/full_la/17334760/article-%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%EF%BC%9A%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%B8%8D%E6%98%AF%E5%B1%A0%E6%AE%BA?instance=lafrm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://la.worldjournal.com/view/full_la/17334760/article-%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%EF%BC%9A%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%B8%8D%E6%98%AF%E5%B1%A0%E6%AE%BA?instance=lafrm</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=la.worldjournal.com" /><a href="http://la.worldjournal.com/view/full_la/17334760/article-%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%EF%BC%9A%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4%B8%8D%E6%98%AF%E5%B1%A0%E6%AE%BA?instance=lafrm" target="_blank"><strong>世界新聞網-北美華人社區新聞 - 蔡衍明:六四不是屠殺</strong></a>
蔡衍明:六四不是屠殺 - 台灣旺旺集團董事長蔡衍明日前接受「華盛頓郵報」訪問時,否認六四天安門事件中共當局開槍、血腥鎮壓學生與市民,引起各界強烈反應。美國之音報導,前天安門民運領袖王丹嚴辭抨擊蔡衍明,並發動抵制旺旺集團旗下的中國時報。
六四事件發生23年以來,已有成千上萬的書籍、新聞報導與照片、親歷事件目擊者的回憶... ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008080">旺旺蔡衍明接受華盛頓郵報washingtonpost專訪中英文對照版</span>
<a href="http://davidli.pixnet.net/blog/post/36721240-%E6%97%BA%E6%97%BA%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%E6%8E%A5%E5%8F%97%E8%8F%AF%E7%9B%9B%E9%A0%93%E9%83%B5%E5%A0%B1washingtonpost%E5%B0%88%E8%A8%AA%E4%B8%AD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://davidli.pixnet.net/blog/post/36721240-%E6%97%BA%E6%97%BA%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%E6%8E%A5%E5%8F%97%E8%8F%AF%E7%9B%9B%E9%A0%93%E9%83%B5%E5%A0%B1washingtonpost%E5%B0%88%E8%A8%AA%E4%B8%AD</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=davidli.pixnet.net" /><a href="http://davidli.pixnet.net/blog/post/36721240-%E6%97%BA%E6%97%BA%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%E6%8E%A5%E5%8F%97%E8%8F%AF%E7%9B%9B%E9%A0%93%E9%83%B5%E5%A0%B1washingtonpost%E5%B0%88%E8%A8%AA%E4%B8%AD" target="_blank"><strong>旺旺蔡衍明接受華盛頓郵報washingtonpost專訪中英文對照版 (新增雙方後續說法) @ 熱血流成河 :: 痞客邦 PIXNET ::</strong></a> 蔡衍明駁斥斷章取義 《華郵》記者:我們堅持我們的報導 撰文 / 楊卓翰 出處 / 今周刊790期 2012/2/8 蔡衍明駁斥斷章取義 台灣富豪旺旺集團老闆蔡衍明,這個 ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#008080">台媒體大亨蔡衍明承認收受中共購買新聞資金</span>
<a href="http://forfreecommunication.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/%E5%8F%B0%E5%AA%92%E9%AB%94%E5%A4%A7%E4%BA%A8%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%E6%89%BF%E8%AA%8D%E6%94%B6%E5%8F%97%E4%B8%AD%E5%85%B1%E8%B3%BC%E8%B2%B7%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E%E8%B3%87%E9%87%91/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forfreecommunication.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/%E5%8F%B0%E5%AA%92%E9%AB%94%E5%A4%A7%E4%BA%A8%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%E6%89%BF%E8%AA%8D%E6%94%B6%E5%8F%97%E4%B8%AD%E5%85%B1%E8%B3%BC%E8%B2%B7%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E%E8%B3%87%E9%87%91/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=forfreecommunication.wordpress.com" /><a href="http://forfreecommunication.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/%E5%8F%B0%E5%AA%92%E9%AB%94%E5%A4%A7%E4%BA%A8%E8%94%A1%E8%A1%8D%E6%98%8E%E6%89%BF%E8%AA%8D%E6%94%B6%E5%8F%97%E4%B8%AD%E5%85%B1%E8%B3%BC%E8%B2%B7%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E%E8%B3%87%E9%87%91/" target="_blank"><strong>台媒體大亨蔡衍明承認收受中共購買新聞資金 « 中華民國自由通訊傳播協會</strong></a>
<div style="display:inline-block;width:300px;height:300px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://0.gravatar.com/blavatar/0f690986a669d0addb0e7a4058e91215?s=300" alt="[圖]" /></div>此前因「六四」言論引起輿論批評的台灣媒體大亨、旺旺集團董事長蔡衍明5月7日在一場台灣政府部門舉行的電視系統併購… ...</div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F000F0">拒絕中時運動
連署學者與活動訴求</span>
<a href="http://campaign.tw-npo.org/sign.php?id=201202601275800" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://campaign.tw-npo.org/sign.php?id=201202601275800</a>
<span style="color:#F000F0">余英時院士親筆為文支持「拒絕中時運動」</span>
<a href="http://rjcts2012.blogspot.tw/2012/05/blog-post_04.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://rjcts2012.blogspot.tw/2012/05/blog-post_04.html</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=rjcts2012.blogspot.tw" /><a href="http://rjcts2012.blogspot.tw/2012/05/blog-post_04.html" target="_blank"><strong>拒絕中時運動: 余英時院士親筆為文支持「拒絕中時運動」</strong></a>
<div style="display:inline-block;width:72px;height:72px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MT1mKeb7wsI/T6OVfF-xeWI/AAAAAAAAAFc/S_hsHPJPMzY/s72-c/%E4%BD%99%E9%99%A2%E5%A3%AB%E5%82%B3%E7%9C%9F+-+1.tif" alt="[圖]" /></div></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F000F0">旺中併購中嘉的來龍去脈</span>
<a href="http://hongguofong.blogspot.tw/2012/07/blog-post_28.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://hongguofong.blogspot.tw/2012/07/blog-post_28.htm</a>
<span style="color:#F000F0">反對媒體巨獸行動資料庫</span>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/occupyncc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://sites.google.com/site/occupyncc/</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=sites.google.com" /><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/occupyncc/" target="_blank"><strong>反對媒體巨獸行動資料庫</strong></a></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#F000F0">如有耐心請看學者早先的評估文件</span>
<a href="http://forfreecommunication.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/e68b92e7b595e5aa92e9ab94e985b7e696afe68b89-why.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forfreecommunication.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/e68b92e7b595e5aa92e9ab94e985b7e696afe68b89-why.pdf</a>
<span style="color:#F0F000">媒體自由~「拒絕中時運動」1 - 10</span>
(一)吳叡人篇 4'03" <a href="http://youtu.be/Nue4tmcNXts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/Nue4tmcNXts</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nue4tmcNXts" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絕中時運動」(一)吳叡人篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
當中時不再忠實,透過壟斷平面和電子媒體後確保財團利益,身為一個民主社會的公民,我們要說:「我們不贊成!」</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Nue4tmcNXts?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/Nue4tmcNXts/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
(二)蕭新煌篇 4'29" <a href="http://youtu.be/cbNS2WvwNGM" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/cbNS2WvwNGM</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNS2WvwNGM" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絕中時運動」(二)蕭新煌篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
當中時不再忠實,拒買拒看中國時報,是消費者的基本權利。請大家一起加入「拒絕中時」的文化消費者運動。</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/cbNS2WvwNGM?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/cbNS2WvwNGM/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
(三)孫友聯篇 2'47" <a href="http://youtu.be/495aeYBmuTw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/495aeYBmuTw</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=495aeYBmuTw" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絕中時運動」(三)孫友聯篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
任何形式的獨裁都是可怕的,媒體集中化將帶來民主的反挫。為了不要再走民主的回頭路,反抗便成必要。</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/495aeYBmuTw?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/495aeYBmuTw/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
(四) 洪貞玲篇 3'02" <a href="http://youtu.be/xwAAk6J5mdo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/xwAAk6J5mdo</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwAAk6J5mdo" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絶中時運動」(四) 洪貞玲篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
蔡衍明以為擁有媒體,就可以掌控媒體的言論,甚至誤解新聞自由就是報老闆的自由。如果任令蔡衍明進行媒體併購,未來台灣1/3的言論就是蔡衍明可以決定的。作為公民社會的閱聽人,如果對於媒體的表現有任何不滿,不要只是私下抱怨,大家應該採取行動。</div></div>
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(五)江文瑜篇 2'44" <a href="http://youtu.be/0jNkrkBo2Gg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/0jNkrkBo2Gg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jNkrkBo2Gg" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絶中時運動」 (五)江文瑜篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
蔡衍明將自己的認知框架加諸媒體公器,不僅個人採取雙重標準,還影響中時在報導方面採取雙重標準,漠視中國弱勢及民主運動處境,以經濟決定論來模糊問題焦點。</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/0jNkrkBo2Gg?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/0jNkrkBo2Gg/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
(六)顏厥安篇 3'46" <a href="http://youtu.be/5EtpicWhtfU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/5EtpicWhtfU</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EtpicWhtfU" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絕中時運動」(六)顏厥安篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
當一個媒體最重要的經濟資源並非來自他本身的社會,就不會關心此地社會,而是受到其利益來源的影響。在事實層面,作選擇性的報導;在價值觀層面,開始質疑、否定、相對化民主社會的價值觀,進而威脅民主鞏固。「拒寫運動」讓大家開始思考:中時是什麼樣的媒體,中時和這個民主社會的關係。這個訊息的釋放,是最重要的意義。</div></div>
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(七)張錦華篇 4'40" <a href="http://youtu.be/OgO-28Fn90k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/OgO-28Fn90k</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgO-28Fn90k" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絕中時運動」(七)張錦華篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
自從蔡衍明入主中時後,引發了我國有史以來,最大規模的媒體改革抗爭。他先是以訴訟威脅對他持有不同意見的媒體學者,繼而賣新聞版面給政府,還幫中國買新聞,破壞新聞專業,更危害國家安全。現在還要繼續擴張,變成媒體酷斯拉。當媒體都成為國家的傳聲筒,我們的社會就將被極權國家統治。根據戰後德國對媒體併購的限制,只要被併購的媒體...</div></div>
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(八) 吳介民篇 2'20" <a href="http://youtu.be/Coincv68SHA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/Coincv68SHA</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coincv68SHA" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絶中時運動」(八) 吳介民篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
蔡衍明發表媚共、反民主言論後,促使台灣社會思考民主防衛的機制。當務之急需要推動「新媒體運動」,一方面強化公廣集團的品質和影響力,二方面催生優質平面媒體。藉由具有專業、自主的新媒體,介紹具有台灣觀點的國際新聞,從而才能防衛台灣的社會民主。</div></div>
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(九) 劉亮雅篇 2'07" <a href="http://youtu.be/9DVUL4vxAjQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/9DVUL4vxAjQ</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DVUL4vxAjQ" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絶中時運動」(九) 劉亮雅篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
媒體不一定永遠自由。中國時報換了老闆以後,因為商業利益考量而限制言論,把報紙當成私人工具,要求編輯揣摩上意,造成言論自由緊縮的連鎖效應,對台灣民主精神造成很不良的影響。</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/9DVUL4vxAjQ?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/9DVUL4vxAjQ/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
(十)瞿海源篇 3'54" <a href="http://youtu.be/5uUP_mcSr9k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/5uUP_mcSr9k</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uUP_mcSr9k" target="_blank"><strong>「拒絕中時運動」(十)瞿海源篇 - YouTube</strong></a>
反智、商人利益、嚴重違反新聞自由、甘為中國共產黨喉舌的「中國時報」,已經取代了促進民主化、堅持台灣尊嚴和國際參與空間、「捍衛一套文明進步價值體系」的中國時報。如今看來,NCC通過三中案時,所作成的七項附帶決議幾乎都落空。捍衛台灣民主,必須拒絕中國時報!</div></div>
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葉宜津參與這個討論完 馬上就被旺中媒體"處理"了
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: anarchy87 時間: 2012-08-01 01:07:47</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jeian198</span><span style="color:#808000">:要是這樣下去,哪天我們的後代子孫有可能看到以下情形:</span>
→ <span style="color:#FF0">jeian198</span><span style="color:#808000">:『豬參加奧運,可望得金』、『豬環島騎單車,民眾:「加油!」』</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
Re: [超幹] 吉野家午後特賣的真相!
http://disp.cc/b/254-40mv
2012-07-23T18:16:07+08:00
2012-07-23T18:16:07+08:00
我好一陣子沒有吃吉野家了,
沒記錯 5 月多我有請同事幫我外帶一次www。
只是看這個照片也太少了吧,
這對我來說應該是減肥餐的等級吧www。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [超幹] 吉野家午後特賣的真相!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年07月23日 Mon. PM 06:16:07</div><hr color="#008080" />
我好一陣子沒有吃吉野家了,
沒記錯 5 月多我有請同事幫我外帶一次www。
只是看這個照片也太少了吧,
這對我來說應該是減肥餐的等級吧www。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-07-23 18:16:07</span></div></pre>
shinzaki.
[超幹] 吉野家午後特賣的真相!
http://disp.cc/b/254-40mg
2012-07-22T17:37:47+08:00
2012-07-23T18:04:22+08:00
小弟不才 看到吉野家傳單上的廣告
http://666kb.com/i/c5q4aluqdyp3axkgl.jpg
一時心動 想說89元可以吃頓飯
便在剛才去買了豬雞雙寶(外帶)
結果店員拿給我的時候差點沒吐血
實物如下 絕無誇張做假!
http://666kb.com/i/c5q472ua2iu809dcl.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/c5q4f9jihvrtmy5sl.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/c5q4fo9qgb51jyfv9.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/c5q4g4afoupovbkk5.jpg
飯的外盒比旁邊的打火機高
內容物比打火機還矮!!
89元的東西還要拿來跟打火機比
我快幹死了!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Hate </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> shinzaki (說好的林益世呢)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [超幹] 吉野家午後特賣的真相!<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Jul 22 17:37:47 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
小弟不才 看到吉野家傳單上的廣告
<a href="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4aluqdyp3axkgl.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/c5q4aluqdyp3axkgl.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4aluqdyp3axkgl.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
一時心動 想說89元可以吃頓飯
便在剛才去買了豬雞雙寶(外帶)
結果店員拿給我的時候差點沒吐血
實物如下 絕無誇張做假!
<a href="http://666kb.com/i/c5q472ua2iu809dcl.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/c5q472ua2iu809dcl.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://666kb.com/i/c5q472ua2iu809dcl.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<a href="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4f9jihvrtmy5sl.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/c5q4f9jihvrtmy5sl.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4f9jihvrtmy5sl.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<a href="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4fo9qgb51jyfv9.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/c5q4fo9qgb51jyfv9.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4fo9qgb51jyfv9.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
<a href="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4g4afoupovbkk5.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/c5q4g4afoupovbkk5.jpg</a>
<div align="center"><div style="display:inline-block;width:640px;height:480px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://666kb.com/i/c5q4g4afoupovbkk5.jpg" alt="[圖]" /></div> </div>
飯的外盒比旁邊的打火機高
內容物比打火機還矮!!
89元的東西還要拿來跟打火機比
我快幹死了!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">force5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/22 19:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qwert30241</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:圖上那怎麼可能是兒童餐阿= = </span> 07/22 19:41
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">kitakore</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 fastfood</span> 07/22 20:20</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">polo8052</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:未看先猜館前路 </span> 07/22 20:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lucybelle</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD 起碼也裝到滿吧! 這太坑錢啦! </span> 07/22 21:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jason7024ex</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:現在吉野家不知在搞什麼,重新推出牛丼,卻變向漲價 </span> 07/23 01:04
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yukitowu
[閒聊] それは突然、運命の相手が
http://disp.cc/b/254-40b6
2012-07-22T14:23:36+08:00
2012-07-22T21:08:08+08:00
人類只不過是基因的載具。
滿足操縱者基因的願望,
「誕生出基因組合中的最佳後代」條件的男女,
只要實際交往之後,
就會發現對方同樣也是適性最優的另一半。
因此,
在這個國家是以基因做為配偶的建議標準。
由電腦選擇基因上能誕生最佳後代的男女,
當雙方年齡屆滿14歲以上的時候,就會主動通知...
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原名是「それは突然、運命の相手が」,代理版譯名「命中註定他&她」,
在電擊大王連載的作品,作者是ヒロモトヒロキ。
雖然說這種像是命運計畫的衍生物,
感覺應該是很嚴肅的作品,
甚至第一話就是近親的兄× 妹配對,
或許還沒看就覺得這是不是什麼革命家的故事。
不過看完後,
大概可以用這樣來概括這作品,
「這美其名是以基因來配對的相親活動啊。」
雖然目的最佳的優生配對,
可是...,作品中不會特別去著墨子代有多優秀,
而是配對後男女雙方的互動,
「閃死人不償命的互動,」
「這兩個天生就是配在一起放閃光,」
這種互動不是那種已經熟識的男女朋友互動,
明 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> C_Chat </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [閒聊] それは突然、運命の相手が<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Jul 22 14:23:36 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
人類只不過是基因的載具。
滿足操縱者基因的願望,
「誕生出基因組合中的最佳後代」條件的男女,
只要實際交往之後,
就會發現對方同樣也是適性最優的另一半。
因此,
在這個國家是以基因做為配偶的建議標準。
由電腦選擇基因上能誕生最佳後代的男女,
當雙方年齡屆滿14歲以上的時候,就會主動通知...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
原名是「それは突然、運命の相手が」,代理版譯名「命中註定他&她」,
在電擊大王連載的作品,作者是ヒロモトヒロキ。
雖然說這種像是命運計畫的衍生物,
感覺應該是很嚴肅的作品,
甚至第一話就是近親的兄× 妹配對,
或許還沒看就覺得這是不是什麼革命家的故事。
不過看完後,
大概可以用這樣來概括這作品,
「這美其名是以基因來配對的相親活動啊。」
雖然目的最佳的優生配對,
可是...,作品中不會特別去著墨子代有多優秀,
而是配對後男女雙方的互動,
「閃死人不償命的互動,」
「這兩個天生就是配在一起放閃光,」
這種互動不是那種已經熟識的男女朋友互動,
明明是相親的配對,
應該是熟悉、親近的對象,
卻因為配對的關係而出現不一樣的互動;
應該是陌生、生疏的對象,
卻因為莫名的契合而表現出情侶般的互動。
雖然是短篇,卻因為這樣的題材,
不用特別花篇幅去描述感情的進展,
也因為是短篇,不用每看一話就得在心裡喊「給你錢快做」,
快速的將讀者帶入故事中,
保留最鮮明的印象給讀者,
然後用力地閃死讀者,
強烈的建議對閃光過敏的讀者不要看www
只是兩個故事的女主角我想應該已經是配對的結果吧,太完美了www
還有,故事裡出現的親代實在有夠搞笑X|DDDD
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ddt442lol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:年紀大了看到這種作品都感覺很囧...都安排好的... </span> 07/22 14:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ddt442lol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:感覺還這麼開心歡樂...不就是每次都挑對人的絕對相親嗎 </span> 07/22 14:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">arcanite</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:光看漢字還以為是捏他作 那是突然出現的命運的對手www </span> 07/22 14:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mikeneko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:畫一個妹妹,然後說她是老婆 </span> 07/22 14:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">biglafu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:想到某宗教的我是怎麼了... </span> 07/22 14:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點在閃光 因為前提是DNA配對出來的絕對適合對象 </span> 07/22 14:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:婆濕嗎(?) </span> 07/22 14:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實不只DNA速配 簡介也說了甚至在個性上也是 </span> 07/22 14:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ddt442lol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真的是威猛到不行,政府直接把仲介都包了...仲介吃屎 </span> 07/22 14:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">biglafu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:機械萬歲 </span> 07/22 14:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:所以說這種相親超強 除非有那種心有所屬 非誰不可的對象 </span> 07/22 14:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不然這種配對 就算嘴巴上說不要 身體都會很正直X|D </span> 07/22 14:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ddt442lol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這種作品似乎就是賣給那些不敢踏出第一步的人就是了.... </span> 07/22 14:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:等等 這發言太危險了 不敢踏出第一步的兄× 妹嗎(炸 </span> 07/22 14:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ssarc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這部是用來規避亂倫的,另外,哪有配對女生個個都正妹 = = </span> 07/22 14:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">biglafu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我本來以會把男女都放在培養皿裡面然後取細胞配對 </span> 07/22 14:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:別說了 兩部男主角都說自己平凡低調 可是在我看來都是 </span> 07/22 14:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:美味可口啊(炸 </span> 07/22 14:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">biglafu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣管控比較嚴格 </span> 07/22 14:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">flamer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這我還有買實體本 囧 </span> 07/22 14:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那種叫做人工受孕吧X|D </span> 07/22 14:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我也有買 你並不孤獨www </span> 07/22 14:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">flamer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那個妹妹篇啊 實體本後面有後續........很可怕不要問 </span> 07/22 14:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SuperSg</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:#1G0kIhaO </span> 07/22 14:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:單行本的追加的後記其實我最感興趣的是那個媽媽X|D... </span> 07/22 14:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:本篇一直完全沒露臉 當初還以為有甚麼特別含意 </span> 07/22 14:45
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:後記裏雖然有露臉 不過只有兩格X|D... </span> 07/22 14:47
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yukitowu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道是單純作者當初懶得想怎麼畫 還是別有用意X|DDD </span> 07/22 14:48
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ke60601.
[無言] ㄈㄈ尺正夯
http://disp.cc/b/254-3X06
2012-07-12T20:31:04+08:00
2012-07-15T16:19:51+08:00
這是我第一篇笨版 其實我也不知道PO笨版對不對
以下內容是我學長(胖子)今天晚上買飯時的經歷
幫他PO上來(不知道標題打注音可不可以?)
CCR PXXA 正夯!
虛線以下都是我學長自己打的 所以裡面的人物沒有我
不要再問我菜脯蛋是哪一間了 我也想知道 ><
另外我也想知道為什麼被鎖文了... 我文章哪邊有問題嗎
---------------------------------------------------
胖子剛剛去政大前面買菜脯蛋,因為人很多所以要等,我只好邊喝綠茶邊等。
等的時候旁邊有兩桌,一桌坐著兩個男的(以下簡稱A男跟B男),另一桌有一個外國男生跟
一個穿的很辣的妹(以下簡稱辣妹跟西餐)剛坐下 ... 我絕對不會承認她的事業線很吸引
人(被打)
辣妹:You can stay my home tonight. Nobody at home^.<
(胖子:小姐,你真直接,你以為這裡沒人聽得懂嗎orz)
西餐:But ... How about your boyfriend?
(胖子:靠腰,現在演哪齣啊?)
辣妹:Just fo fun ok? Wh ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> StupidClown </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> ke60601 (我要勇氣給我吧)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [無言] ㄈㄈ尺正夯<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jul 12 20:31:04 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
這是我第一篇笨版 其實我也不知道PO笨版對不對
以下內容是我學長(胖子)今天晚上買飯時的經歷
幫他PO上來(不知道標題打注音可不可以?)
CCR PXXA 正夯!
虛線以下都是我學長自己打的 所以裡面的人物沒有我
不要再問我菜脯蛋是哪一間了 我也想知道 ><
另外我也想知道為什麼被鎖文了... 我文章哪邊有問題嗎
---------------------------------------------------
胖子剛剛去政大前面買菜脯蛋,因為人很多所以要等,我只好邊喝綠茶邊等。
等的時候旁邊有兩桌,一桌坐著兩個男的(以下簡稱A男跟B男),另一桌有一個外國男生跟
一個穿的很辣的妹(以下簡稱辣妹跟西餐)剛坐下 ... 我絕對不會承認她的事業線很吸引
人(被打)
辣妹:You can stay my home tonight. Nobody at home^.<
(胖子:小姐,你真直接,你以為這裡沒人聽得懂嗎orz)
西餐:But ... How about your boyfriend?
(胖子:靠腰,現在演哪齣啊?)
辣妹:Just fo fun ok? Why so serious?
(胖子:...... 轉頭看那桌)
西餐:Really? (帶個一抹邪惡的微笑)
辣妹:Actually I want you to be my boy friend (扭)
(胖子:................)
過了10秒鐘的寧靜,隔壁桌的A男跟B男有動靜了
A男:寶貝!泥今天晚上可以留在偶家唷!(假音)
(胖子噴綠茶 ... )
B男:Really?哪你男碰友勒?(訪西餐音)
A男:別管他啦!因為你是洋屌呀^.<
因為你是洋屌呀^.<
因為你是洋屌呀^.<
(胖子忍不住噗疵了出來)
又寧靜了兩分鐘,西餐根本不知道發生甚麼事,辣妹臉臭得跟甚麼一樣,AB男好像沒事一
樣繼續吃飯,老闆端了一盤青菜來給AB男 ...
A男:我們沒有點青菜啊?
老闆:請拎ㄟ啦!(請你們的啦)!
幹,武就小!(X,有膽識!)
幹,武就小!(X,有膽識!)
幹,武就小!(X,有膽識!)
A男:多蝦喔!(多謝喔!)
後來我的蛋來了,走之前我還跟AB男比了個大姆指...XD
然後再轉頭對辣妹笑了一下說Goodbye!Have Niceday ...
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<div class="ansi"><span style="color:#808080"></span>◢<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">''</span></span> <span style="background-color:#808000"> <span style="color:#000">.. </span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#808000">'〒'</span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">'. '</span></span> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#008000">' '</span></span> <span style="color:#800000">ξ </span>▌<span style="color:#800000"> <span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#800000">. . <span style="color:#800000"><span style="background-color:#000">≡<span style="color:#000"></span></span></span></span></span></span>◢<span style="color:#000"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">'<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><span style="color:#000">◎@@</span></span></span></span> <span style="color:#800000"><span style="color:#808000"><span style="background-color:#808000">●<span style="color:#000">﹏<span style="color:#808000"><span style="color:#800000"><span style="background-color:#000">●<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">★<span style="color:#000">'<span style="color:#C0C0C0"> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color:#000">◣ <span style="background-color:#C0C0C0">ˊ<span style="color:#800000">▄<span style="color:#000">ˋ</span></span></span></span> <span style="color:#F0F000"><span style="background-color:#800000">★︰ </span></span>║</div>
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">comestar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/12 20:32
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">goodtour</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笑了XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:36
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">DONTWANNA</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD </span> 07/12 20:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hipocritos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這種機掰的手段真令人激賞!! </span> 07/12 20:39
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Zn1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/12 20:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ke60601</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要是我在現場 我一定請那兩個人喝個啤酒!XD </span> 07/12 20:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mp390329</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我可以轉嗎?!太好笑了!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 20:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ke60601</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ok!我學長說可以轉! </span> 07/12 20:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Hateson</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Lyy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:41
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">BackToYou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不錯 </span> 07/12 20:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kaitokid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚! </span> 07/12 20:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">noonee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:結論是大家英語都很好?XD </span> 07/12 20:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ellie40</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">adma</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/12 20:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lucky1lk</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不得不推~!!! </span> 07/12 20:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">flyhuman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆也有就小XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Combatant</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:自以為講英文大家就聽不懂嗎 XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">brother172</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆武就小XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">colakat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚 </span> 07/12 20:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">e1q3z9c7</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家都聽得懂XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ellie40</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實原PO的英文也有點點小錯誤~ </span> 07/12 20:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyo017baby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪裡錯啊,看不出來,樓上教一下@@ </span> 07/12 20:47
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ke60601</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我想那兩個人沒有照翻是想要酸一下吧XD </span> 07/12 20:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">coisa</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gn0481914</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆英文也不錯 </span> 07/12 20:48
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">coisa</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好奇一下政大哪家店的老闆啊?XD早餐店? </span> 07/12 20:48
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gn0481914</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:修但哩 你們菜圃蛋還在排隊 老闆卻額外炒一盤青菜請人 </span> 07/12 20:48
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">LonyIce</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:for </span> 07/12 20:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andrew5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣人推 </span> 07/12 20:52
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">andrew5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有勇者要轉ㄈㄈ尺嗎 </span> 07/12 20:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">QBB1007</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:54
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">G2S</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 20:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kroyx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:LOL </span> 07/12 20:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">RAYNOR0327</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那個ㄈㄈ尺也太誇張了吧怒給箭頭 </span> 07/12 20:55
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fyxt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ 不推不行XD </span> 07/12 20:58
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<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">edson1210</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆有膽識!!! </span> 07/12 20:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">NIGHT0330</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:別忘了這位外國朋友不明白狀況翻譯給他聽一起笑啊 </span> 07/12 20:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hhenry666</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ 徵勇者轉CCR </span> 07/12 20:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cfz22141</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:洋人的東西~ </span> 07/12 21:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ta6710</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:菜脯蛋! 是廢墟嗎~~~ </span> 07/12 21:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">withfrog</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆讚XDDDD </span> 07/12 21:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shenkeng</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mirokoyen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ShinyaNakano</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個CCR真的太誇張了 </span> 07/12 21:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">stardream</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推~~話說ㄈㄈ尺是甚麼?? </span> 07/12 21:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">viscaria</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">silver2012</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD CCR 哈哈 </span> 07/12 21:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fishercat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!!!Good Job!!! </span> 07/12 21:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">smoky314</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噗哧~~~~ XDDDDDDDD (fo"r" fun ; Have "a" nice day) </span> 07/12 21:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Deesu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Heeeeeee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺? </span> 07/12 21:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vulmoon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:英文應該是用比較口語的用法巴!@@ </span> 07/12 21:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">joimk</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">youre</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kdr130</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:武就小!!! </span> 07/12 21:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">che0725</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:快轉ㄈㄈ尺,羞辱那些含著____出生的人 </span> 07/12 21:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sheralyn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了!!! </span> 07/12 21:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bulcas</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wht810090</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chris80634</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹太強了 我只能跪了Orz </span> 07/12 21:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">surruto</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超好笑! 但ㄈㄈ尺是什麼???????? </span> 07/12 21:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Qyuan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:後勁超強!!!XD </span> 07/12 21:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Scape</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看來老闆也懂英文喔~~~~~~~ </span> 07/12 21:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dear0804</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD </span> 07/12 21:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shiangju</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺=CCR的相似字 </span> 07/12 21:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lovemello521</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:水喔 </span> 07/12 21:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ofpurity</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠邀~老闆強耶 </span> 07/12 21:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k382214</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然我也欣賞歪果人 但還是要推AB男一下!! </span> 07/12 21:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">oo2830oo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDD就是喜歡歪國人的 </span> 07/12 21:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">allening</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:武就小! XD </span> 07/12 21:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推爆這篇,然後轉ㄈㄈ尺!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 21:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SpringLin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 21:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YuChenLin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好強 </span> 07/12 21:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 07/12 21:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nonebelieve</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/12 21:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">natsumilynn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">FineJar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大推!超好笑 XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">patriciasnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k4847</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:帥 </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">asdfghjkl220</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨板竟然出現瞬爆文欸@_@ 雖然看起來滿唬爛的 顆 </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LMsoda</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jameshu0910</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:AB男超讚XD </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:自願當勇者,但不知怎麼轉文 XDD </span> 07/12 21:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">assassinrex</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給他爆拉 ㄈㄈ尺 </span> 07/12 21:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetrider</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/12 21:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lavenderlife</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD GJ </span> 07/12 21:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">leouni</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有夠靠北~~~ </span> 07/12 21:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ken945403</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己啦XDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a87992772</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">a87992772</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ctrl-x </span> 07/12 21:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fakecake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:AB男和老闆XDDD </span> 07/12 21:22
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">loser9527</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/12 21:23</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ppuppy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rivonhsu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:完全沒有理由不推了 XD </span> 07/12 21:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">rererere147</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:強者轉了XDDDD 快拜 </span> 07/12 21:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">logokuo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDD難得有爆!! </span> 07/12 21:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">teadog</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 XDD' </span> 07/12 21:25
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:說什麼羞不羞辱的會不會太無聊? </span> 07/12 21:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sj210444</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser大真勇者 只能給推了!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 21:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tom199192</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推!!! </span> 07/12 21:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tryit0902</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 21:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">patear</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDD </span> 07/12 21:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">phfd2013</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台男之光 </span> 07/12 21:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">tempoyo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:羞辱怎麼個無聊法? </span> 07/12 21:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">w660</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">top068</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">blueMie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在說某樓 </span> 07/12 21:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sun210525</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太強了XDD </span> 07/12 21:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">h790317</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了XDDD </span> 07/12 21:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Belialdeng</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:吃飽太閒 </span> 07/12 21:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">n6108751116</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺 爆吧XD </span> 07/12 21:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笑了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tempoyo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣之光! </span> 07/12 21:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">FOTOP</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:神翻譯XD 把原文用中文完美呈現200% </span> 07/12 21:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:慘了ㄈㄈ尺那邊會不會被噓爆啊XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">baopig</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超酸哈哈哈哈哈ㄏ </span> 07/12 21:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ujane</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚! </span> 07/12 21:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">marcox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太強大了!!XD </span> 07/12 21:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bkt800216</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一定要大推阿 好猛 </span> 07/12 21:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhs710041</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:神威 </span> 07/12 21:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我有問題!!!為什麼洋女臉會臭掉啊?????????? </span> 07/12 21:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eutropia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鍵盤小妹跪求幫神AB男!!!! 神到的話我生喝淡水河的水!!! </span> 07/12 21:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">blue05</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:神翻譯推XD </span> 07/12 21:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">viscaria</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:唉優 哈囉兒真的不懂嗎?? </span> 07/12 21:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">luie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不是洋女啊...他聽的懂所以臉臭掉 </span> 07/12 21:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Subaudition</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 07/12 21:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ee012345</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑翻天XDDDD </span> 07/12 21:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:喔喔!!我看錯以為女生才是外國人= = </span> 07/12 21:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ggyyhippo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠北XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 那個轉文的也有夠帶種 </span> 07/12 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iiiey</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太威了吧XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚啦,笑翻XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Yie</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ. </span> 07/12 21:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推生喝淡水河的水XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bobo1218</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推老闆~~~~~~~~推神AB男 </span> 07/12 21:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ll35566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:前面說胖子後面變成我 莫非原PO....... </span> 07/12 21:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">henryrita</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而且老闆好好笑XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">evilplayer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/12 21:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yiduen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那個女的應該是留學生拉,自以為說英語卡秋安捏 </span> 07/12 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">phix</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:凎 水 ~~~~~~~~~ </span> 07/12 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD好直接 </span> 07/12 21:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">colies</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rujl</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹,武就小! </span> 07/12 21:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Jackwin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己 </span> 07/12 21:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hahaha0v0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好有畫面XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">littlehouse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/12 21:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SaraET</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a5544331</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:xDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">undersky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我看到 A男:寶貝!泥今天晚上可以留在偶家唷!(假音) </span> 07/12 21:48
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">undersky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我就笑了 </span> 07/12 21:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">amypush</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD太好笑了 </span> 07/12 21:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">r2d2147</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:快M呀 </span> 07/12 21:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">biycer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">showpon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/12 21:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">poptytle</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個好好笑喔XDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a5200285</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 07/12 21:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">BlackQ840910</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推XDDD話說老闆的英文應該也是不錯! </span> 07/12 21:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sting47</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:結果大家都聽得懂XDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wingthink</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zoe198541</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ! </span> 07/12 21:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s851342002</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">verca000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!! XDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 21:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Feord</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">skytempter</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:揪估的!!! </span> 07/12 22:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">e76628</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆超屌~!! </span> 07/12 22:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hazel0805</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了啦 老闆也太妙了 </span> 07/12 22:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gunfighter</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sato11sho9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDD </span> 07/12 22:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:洋具正夯xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jim83711</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹這超好笑的XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bananaskin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣之光藏在民間阿!!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">delete4067</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:100分 </span> 07/12 22:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nothisman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PH值低到無法測量XD </span> 07/12 22:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:AB男會不會也是鄉民!!!!!!!!!!!!!XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">popytsnake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為你是洋屌,哈 </span> 07/12 22:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">PureLove4U</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推 因為你是洋屌阿~ </span> 07/12 22:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">z2374z</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈~~老闆讚 </span> 07/12 22:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">im5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是廢墟嗎?XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chiick</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fish612</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太屌了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">webberhot</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆太屌了!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 22:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">abandoner</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跟以前有一篇愛用疊字一樣很嗆XDDD </span> 07/12 22:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">myblueberry</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:難得回來就看到極品 </span> 07/12 22:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jws485</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這太好笑了~XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">seashel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆太讚了!!! </span> 07/12 22:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zaqws56hm</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">joseph39</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家英文都很好XDD </span> 07/12 22:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">geniussilly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD 本來還想懸賞500P徵人轉的 結果有人轉了XD </span> 07/12 22:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jerret</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:胖子學長推 朝聖!! </span> 07/12 22:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qaz516</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:洋人的東西 </span> 07/12 22:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kiki41052</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Yijhen0525</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然我是女的,但還是給推,超有梗的 </span> 07/12 22:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Yijhen0525</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:外國男生不見一定都很好啊....台灣也有不錯的說 </span> 07/12 22:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jack0411ni</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可以再Haagen-Dazs一點XDD 五就小! </span> 07/12 22:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">maxlovesviva</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:難怪沒幾篇就瞬間爆了 哈哈哈哈哈 </span> 07/12 22:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">j6wu0cl6</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">j60131</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 太好笑了XD </span> 07/12 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hsnurabbit</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:FB來朝聖啦推 </span> 07/12 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">october9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我論 政大廢墟 和 五就小 會紅的可能性 </span> 07/12 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xoka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hwp1006</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖+政大人推 </span> 07/12 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AIRURU</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有笑有推XDDD </span> 07/12 22:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">waqw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">movingroovin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖~~~~ </span> 07/12 22:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">difish</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跟 老闆加麵麵不要辣辣 一樣好笑 </span> 07/12 22:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AsakuNight</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD................. </span> 07/12 22:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">TroyWhite</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆超逗趣 XD </span> 07/12 22:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">girl96632</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDD </span> 07/12 22:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">opszy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">luciferfish</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推XDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">VLGwen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDD 五就小 </span> 07/12 22:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ken1325</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:結論是在場的人全都聽得懂XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xoka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:補推廢墟的菜脯蛋!!! </span> 07/12 22:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Freeven</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太利害了XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pinestudy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在P2看到 特地來朝聖XD </span> 07/12 22:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:p2是哪個板@@ </span> 07/12 22:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jeoca</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!!!!!!!!XD </span> 07/12 22:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">finn138159</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚 </span> 07/12 22:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kasaaddict</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太讚了吧XDDDD </span> 07/12 22:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">particular</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹,武就小!(X,有膽識!) </span> 07/12 22:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sam50911</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆太好笑了XD </span> 07/12 22:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">adcde</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:40
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">october9</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 NCCU</span> 07/12 22:40</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">your135</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/12 22:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ykloveky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆太可愛了!!GJ! </span> 07/12 22:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ppp636</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖...請勇者轉去 </span> 07/12 22:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chegue</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈 老闆武就小!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 22:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">viscaria</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:烙英文捏 結果旁邊的完全聽懂XDDD </span> 07/12 22:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Touber</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:FB朝聖推! </span> 07/12 22:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kansas</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好有畫面!! 超好笑 !! ^O^ </span> 07/12 22:45
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hungfrank</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:serious???為什麼沒人挑到just for fun的錯= = </span> 07/12 22:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lulu1201</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笑死我了 </span> 07/12 22:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hgfck</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 >< </span> 07/12 22:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qazwsx9006</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己XDD </span> 07/12 22:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jacky7987</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超靠北XDDD </span> 07/12 22:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">seven7th</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:五GAY小 XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qqsimon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/12 22:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d60414</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大人朝聖............幹,武就小! </span> 07/12 22:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s84667308</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太靠腰了XD </span> 07/12 22:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mrkey</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖啊XDDDDDDDD 幹 武舊小! </span> 07/12 22:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tedssica</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這麼簡單的英文還好意思講這麼大聲XDD </span> 07/12 22:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">frankhan0916</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超帥!!! </span> 07/12 22:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">loveinmars</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:水喔XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">o56096609</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹XDDDDDDD 朝聖推 </span> 07/12 22:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RichHung</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推 </span> 07/12 22:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">RealX</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">barbie75102</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朋友的朋友的朋友推~ </span> 07/12 22:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hunterken</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Metal5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:半年前被劣怒推 </span> 07/12 22:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fireforce</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/12 22:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k16482</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:憋笑好痛苦阿!!!! </span> 07/12 22:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">J1902198</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:A男B男靠邀到爆炸啊!!!!! XDDD </span> 07/12 22:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bikestormer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推不行阿!! 武就小 </span> 07/12 22:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s10311028</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹超帥氣!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 22:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ByronX</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠杯 老闆聽得懂英文 XD </span> 07/12 22:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">DiO0329</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pizu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這不推還是人嗎XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">naima1014</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆XDDDD </span> 07/12 22:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">magi80328</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 22:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wayne0213</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怎麼沒被砍? </span> 07/12 22:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Knucklesptt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:網路轉 來朝聖推! 不推枉為人 </span> 07/12 23:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">succon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好久沒有這種優質好文了 給你推! </span> 07/12 23:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bobochuchu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆不用懂英文 聽到AB男說的就知道是在酸女的吃洋屌 </span> 07/12 23:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">inthesea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gtguy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:少了定冠詞 </span> 07/12 23:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YOUAREME</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDy 老闆還來個友情贊助 不過那女的真誇張 </span> 07/12 23:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aisha0318</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈 笑死我了 政大推 </span> 07/12 23:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">keithlee4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tml7415</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AquariusTACO</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD太好笑了xddddddddddddddddddd </span> 07/12 23:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wweraw0419</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD </span> 07/12 23:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hibari1818</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆武就小讚 </span> 07/12 23:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">justlaw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推 這太酷了哈哈哈哈哈XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hola1214</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/12 23:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fromwilda</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹,武就小!XD </span> 07/12 23:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">GoGi8</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PUMA西餐妹...真是不予置評...!這篇好笑... </span> 07/12 23:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">king91010</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推不行 XD </span> 07/12 23:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ray5034</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有笑有推XD </span> 07/12 23:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kikukuki</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽啦 </span> 07/12 23:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aaa1234585</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJ </span> 07/12 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Aw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推!!! </span> 07/12 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hazeljane</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ts00788832</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超好笑!! </span> 07/12 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pp617</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:!! </span> 07/12 23:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">steward135</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">editorem</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dogisburning</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這太好笑了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 </span> 07/12 23:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">morphine1121</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:想轉八卦但是權限不足Q_______Q </span> 07/12 23:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">TabrisXVII</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:FB看到專程上來推 老闆GJ啊 </span> 07/12 23:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jim1209</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:GJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJjjj </span> 07/12 23:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pipiboy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一定要堆的XD </span> 07/12 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">likeselina</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推~ </span> 07/12 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s24066774</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推XDDDD </span> 07/12 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icq7584</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚啦XDDDD </span> 07/12 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vv12</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/12 23:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hong41tw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太讚啦!!! 來朝聖!!! </span> 07/12 23:16
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">kimi255085</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Gossiping</span> 07/12 23:17</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">winklly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:武就小!!! </span> 07/12 23:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ZIDENS</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我有聽過西餐妹跟黑人玩投籃機然後說if I win...tonoght </span> 07/12 23:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alai1014</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">amybubu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:武就小XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ZIDENS</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:you should fuck my pussy if I lose...my ass is your </span> 07/12 23:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gill1457</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推啦!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 23:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhbgybj123</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這不推不是人阿~~~XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">isotropic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a4567803</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/12 23:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">phardaway</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:武就小!!! </span> 07/12 23:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">isotropic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆真性情!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ivanov</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:叫小賀 </span> 07/12 23:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好屌 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ke60601</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:希望記者不要抄= = </span> 07/12 23:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">boro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:聽起來好像很好吃 是哪一間阿 </span> 07/12 23:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">isotropic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑翻了啦 等一下怎麼睡覺啊 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kidboy619</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有笑給推 </span> 07/12 23:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bgp895405</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠北啦 老闆也聽得懂XDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ILzi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/12 23:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wukoko11</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 好文章XDDDD </span> 07/12 23:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">breakaway</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:話說AB男的默契也太好了吧XDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在看一次還是猛笑XDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:26
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">vivicoach</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:吃西餐礙到誰了嗎請問一下 </span> 07/12 23:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pices</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDD 老闆超猛 </span> 07/12 23:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HONDA1023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:WOW 正義魔人出現了 難道樓上就是苦主嗎XDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">morphine1121</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Just fo fun ok? Why so serious?看到這句就礙到了^^ </span> 07/12 23:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大概CCR來的? </span> 07/12 23:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">BBBroflovski</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹,武就小! </span> 07/12 23:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">findhs2006</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺怒噓了耶~好可怕喔 </span> 07/12 23:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kimiyoko</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹 好靠北XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vi33</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 幹,武就小! </span> 07/12 23:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jack19931993</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推勇者轉發!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 23:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sboy1111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:吃西餐很正常啊,別人聊天你臉臭幹嘛XD </span> 07/12 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">isotropic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人噓耶 那只好繼續推 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yukina17</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ZincSaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚 XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我轉到CCR的文還沒被噓 反倒這裡先被愛吃西餐的噓了 囧 </span> 07/12 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">secretmouse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:苦主出現了!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/12 23:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真爽 看CCR崩潰 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tn603408</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為CCR不能噓文啊 XDDD </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kingcloud</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原來,英文敖敗永A丟... </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:lose大,因為CCR鎖2啊XDDD 開放的話可能會被CCR噓慘XDD </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">linmiou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:自己覺得沒怎樣幹嘛臭臉哈哈 </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">selinaevo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ligar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:碼的 辣妹被捅三刀阿 XD </span> 07/12 23:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原來如此 我還以為CCR眾今晚都不干寂寞出門找獵物了 XD </span> 07/12 23:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">stellahikaru</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推推XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lunate</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就是要大推啦XD!!!! </span> 07/12 23:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">liyuoh</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果我在現場那桌就我請他們 有夠爽 </span> 07/12 23:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sboy1111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪一間介紹一下,住豆腐坑路過去光顧 </span> 07/12 23:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">memoryjhen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">imht</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pika08</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹,武就小! </span> 07/12 23:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">asunny9420</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:帥啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gox1117</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺不意外 丟臉 </span> 07/12 23:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Lelol</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:vivicoach被釣出來了嗎 呵呵 </span> 07/12 23:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ninibiteyou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:34
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<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">dude0324</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 joke</span> 07/12 23:39</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">blue401</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹,五就小XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shintz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆也聽的懂XDDD </span> 07/12 23:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shernway</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 朝聖 </span> 07/12 23:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">black205</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDD 太好笑了 </span> 07/12 23:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ke60601</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:麵麵也超好笑 </span> 07/12 23:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a1234456101</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推不行XDD </span> 07/12 23:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">marvel0312</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了 XDDD </span> 07/12 23:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">twomixsho</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:潮聖~~~~~~~~~~~XDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LCAC</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推枉為貓空眾啊~!!! </span> 07/12 23:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">buyui</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大CCR 代表人物不就是猴抓妹嗎? </span> 07/12 23:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q06161117</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆好厲害 哈哈哈 XDDD </span> 07/12 23:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wolf0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">black5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDD </span> 07/12 23:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">superpilicat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD </span> 07/12 23:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">openwang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k04121226</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是真的的話就真的很PU </span> 07/12 23:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pig726</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈 讚啦 ㄈㄈ尺正夯 </span> 07/12 23:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">foreverkemp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:武就小~~~~~~~~政大推 </span> 07/12 23:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">snowskying</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDD </span> 07/12 23:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">acha5</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:圍觀強者轉CCR 老闆超威XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推,不推對不起良心 </span> 07/12 23:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aakkdd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/12 23:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q15253545</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XD </span> 07/12 23:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bokonon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:誰可以告訴我一下,"鎖2"是什麼意思,為什麼CCR們看不到 </span> 07/12 23:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上~鎖2就是鎖噓文啊@@ </span> 07/12 23:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sesfan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼我可以把Have niceday看成Have nice body? </span> 07/12 23:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:也就是說,怕被亂版所以鎖噓文,卻害自己無法反駁 </span> 07/12 23:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">clickyula</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖朝聖推 菜脯蛋應該是廢墟吧~~ </span> 07/12 23:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:所以笨點是學長點的蛋最後變成原波的? </span> 07/12 23:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sun07</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDD 老闆好殺!! </span> 07/12 23:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我看錯了,笨點是我的...Orz </span> 07/12 23:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gnrxjapan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推 </span> 07/12 23:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">suchiachi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chuan1072</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDXDXDXD </span> 07/12 23:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chulen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wayne310</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推啦!!讚! </span> 07/12 23:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">angelpig</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推XDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iamwind7954</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我喜歡這老闆XDDD </span> 07/12 23:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">elton0618</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了XDDDDD </span> 07/12 23:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kimgtob</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/12 23:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sandycrazy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 00:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">IkAzrael</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yuan860721</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆好屌XD </span> 07/13 00:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Number41</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推! </span> 07/13 00:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">NaZiTiGer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推啦~~~~~~~ </span> 07/13 00:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">monch</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是HAVE A NICE DAY吧... </span> 07/13 00:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺版的文被刪了,可惜了 </span> 07/13 00:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">coo1instar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺秒刪 </span> 07/13 00:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">anetoboin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇讚XDDDDD ㄈㄈ尺心虛的要死只想找西餐討拍啦 </span> 07/13 00:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a87992772</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嗚~才剛去推完文就被刪了 </span> 07/13 00:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">feng6669</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被刪文了~~ </span> 07/13 00:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ElvesDaniel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:09
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ke60601</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:版龜被無限上綱了@@" </span> 07/13 00:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">newtypeL9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:台灣英文教育生根啦XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lovebruce</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推XDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kstopplayer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者被桶了 </span> 07/13 00:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">FARISLIN</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!! </span> 07/13 00:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tvtiset</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">windwingss</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">babufong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!也推loser大勇者無懼! </span> 07/13 00:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rex20032</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:A跟B也太屌!!!!! </span> 07/13 00:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:本來對CCR沒意見,但看到版主這樣,好糟糕(  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ </span> 07/13 00:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhjhs33414</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:臥虎藏龍阿XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">IFeltQQ</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:剛在FB看到 立馬上線朝聖XDD </span> 07/13 00:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">clickyula</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:神ab男~~~~ </span> 07/13 00:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HornyDragon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我好幾個月沒在笨板看到能讓我大笑的文章了 </span> 07/13 00:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">metalhead</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖了 </span> 07/13 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kevinapo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖! </span> 07/13 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">b25459870</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推文 朝聖!! </span> 07/13 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">goodnester</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:向英勇的loser9527大大至上最大的敬意!真男人啊!!! </span> 07/13 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">karen71014</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:刪文就輸了,桶勇者更是說明ㄈㄈ尺版主的度量之小 </span> 07/13 00:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">happydemi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推老闆!!!!! </span> 07/13 00:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">emore1223</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不得不推!! </span> 07/13 00:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">otld</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 今天就算不是CCR 那女的也欠噓 </span> 07/13 00:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yunhan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太好笑了 </span> 07/13 00:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家快去CCR看LOSE大推文,太好笑了XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">oncememory</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:lose大壯烈犧牲~ </span> 07/13 00:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">goodnester</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:JasonSin:以示公正!幹你媽的我就是轉文的loser952 </span> 07/13 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sfparanoia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">goodnester</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太英勇了!!!XDDD </span> 07/13 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">emore1223</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者lose大 </span> 07/13 00:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:WTF5566表示: </span> 07/13 00:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">anetoboin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那個版的度量本來就是專為白種男開放的呀>_^ </span> 07/13 00:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bearcatman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 00:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">aup6</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!! </span> 07/13 00:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Dawei1165</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿超爽 </span> 07/13 00:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YiHsang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可能苦主就是ㄈㄈ尺版主吧 桶完後不敢出來面對,大家體諒 </span> 07/13 00:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Qae86Q</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太讚啦XD </span> 07/13 00:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">asangel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jcst</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 推 (_._) </span> 07/13 00:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kirkscy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!!!!! </span> 07/13 00:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a23639978a</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 00:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">oncememory</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果又有人再把這篇轉過去會怎樣? XD </span> 07/13 00:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:婀 好想轉 </span> 07/13 00:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ABA0525</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 00:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ibugi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 政大哪間 改天去捧場 </span> 07/13 00:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家約個時間一起轉 讓CCR版主慢慢桶怎麼樣 XDDDD </span> 07/13 00:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">oncememory</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:自殺潮嗎? </span> 07/13 00:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反正被CCR水桶感覺也沒差 XD </span> 07/13 00:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">huang30299</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:借轉 </span> 07/13 00:28
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">huang30299</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:28</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Iam5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:借轉 </span> 07/13 00:28
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Iam5566</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:29</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iamwind7954</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:也是 我被那邊桶好像沒差= =真想轉 </span> 07/13 00:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">daliao626</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在FB看到,來朝聖! </span> 07/13 00:29
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">secretmouse</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:29</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pikakami</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為他是洋屌>/////< </span> 07/13 00:29
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">h4k</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:29</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原PO要不要考慮開放隨意轉載?? CCR板要開戰了 = =+ </span> 07/13 00:29
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Chris56</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:29</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chiky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太靠背了 XDDD </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andy20419</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XD </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:戰!!!!y </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lk</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚啦!! </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Lydia66</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這...看來有鄉民進攻CCR版了... </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">jetzake</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:30</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:今晚捨不得睡覺想看開戰>//////< </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tzuchun0214</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:AB男太有膽識了 老闆也GJ!!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:衝吧!! 有熱血的鄉民們歡迎共襄盛舉 </span> 07/13 00:31
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">hung0724</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:31</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">oncememory</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家都太有就小了~Y </span> 07/13 00:31
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">cs410567cs</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:31</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">iamwind7954</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:31</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">StanShan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺之亂要開始了嗎XDD </span> 07/13 00:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">YiHsang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉文的各位 幹,武就小! </span> 07/13 00:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jackrock</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">encorej02071</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真是太帥了XDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mutzy52000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉錄要按哪個鍵阿0.0 </span> 07/13 00:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ctrl+x </span> 07/13 00:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">juliefju</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 00:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">twoKBOy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!! </span> 07/13 00:33
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">mutzy52000</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:33</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shawnhu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:雖然我也厭惡CCR 但這事頗無聊的= = </span> 07/13 00:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cs410567cs</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:文章列表按ctrl+x可轉錄 </span> 07/13 00:33
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">justptt</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:34</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Frankie1</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:34</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Harute</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:34</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:各位轉文的勇者,請受小弟一拜(跪) </span> 07/13 00:34
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">aa384756</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:34</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">fish32</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:35</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Refauth</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 00:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chiky</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鬧版是很無聊, 但文章的確很好笑 XD </span> 07/13 00:35
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">REU</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:36</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">ih819132000</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:36</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ilovelyou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆 超好笑 哈哈 </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這次鬧板有可能又會變成歷史事件@@ </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gfdsaing</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">v63718x4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是CCR版主亂刪文 不然誰要去鬧呢? </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">foreverkemp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser大~~~ WTF5566:這是我最後一個帳號 </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ZincSaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺之亂XDD </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有空的可以去CCR板看一下 看不過去的就一起轉這篇吧!! </span> 07/13 00:36
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">LansingAltec</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:37</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Daniel5566</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:37</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">josephHPSH</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:38</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反正.... 被CCR板水桶又沒差 = =+ </span> 07/13 00:38
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">DSSS</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:38</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andy20419</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹 笑爛XD </span> 07/13 00:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太威了,媽我在這~~~~~~~~~~~~~ </span> 07/13 00:38
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">a4567803</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:38</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Dawei1165</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:38</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qazwsx9006</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:向勇者致敬! </span> 07/13 00:38
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Error11</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:39</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Iam5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有勇者要po這影片過去嗎?<a href="http://tinyurl.com/bvlg32d" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/bvlg32d</a> </span> 07/13 00:39
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.youtube.com" /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjVbFPFecYg" target="_blank"><strong>外國的屌比較香精華版 - YouTube</strong></a>
剪掉了一些片段 方便大家觀賞</div></div>
<div class="video" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/yjVbFPFecYg?autohide=1&autoplay=1"><img style="max-width:100%;" width="640" height="480" src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/yjVbFPFecYg/0.jpg" /><div class="play_btn"></div></div> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dormice</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推樓上 還有AB男 勇者有真相~!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 00:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">silver2012</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你們怎麼可以去亂人家CCRomance版 </span> 07/13 00:39
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">dddnow</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:39</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Eks</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹! 武就小!! </span> 07/13 00:39
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">silver2012</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:40</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">oncememory</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這是笨板向CCR版進攻的意思嗎 = =||| </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LoYuMing</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">moriyaorange</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是那一家店的老闆,下一次我也要去捧場!!! </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">pillooow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒必要這樣去鬧版吧... </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">kadokawa</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:夠了沒 有種去那女生家鬧啊 </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">peter1212</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第二次CCR之亂 </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k03004748549</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:媽我在這 </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CDing</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我只是想在歷史上留名 </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">shwei2012</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:40</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluerain0958</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨板 對 CCR板 使出 鄉民暴動 效果十分顯著 </span> 07/13 00:40
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">CDing</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:41</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">slashID</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:41</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR再度崩潰 </span> 07/13 00:41
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">j129008</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:41</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">chicken8</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:41</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺怒噓好可怕喔 快放聖光術 </span> 07/13 00:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">josephHPSH</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人崩潰了 </span> 07/13 00:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sycjohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推~ </span> 07/13 00:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Dawei1165</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:呵呵喝呵呵 我想版大不刪文 這邊也不會瘋狂轉過去吧^^ </span> 07/13 00:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉文忘記說 抱歉XD </span> 07/13 00:42
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">ILoveMilan</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:42</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dd123031</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖囉~~ </span> 07/13 00:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kiwivino1023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:玩了 ㄈㄈ尺之亂趴兔 </span> 07/13 00:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">encorej02071</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:補血補血先猜等等會有ㄈㄈ尺噓 </span> 07/13 00:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eva577663</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">m20030610</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這一定要起立鼓掌付翻譯費的阿XD </span> 07/13 00:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LCAC</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跨國戀原本是美事 要搞到這樣......唉唉 那兒的版主也[有功] </span> 07/13 00:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:版主沒肚量就桶人,CCR被亂剛好而已 </span> 07/13 00:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">huang30299</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:想知道上次ㄈㄈ尺之亂標題 </span> 07/13 00:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ccer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這種鬧版的沒腦行為跟那妹有啥兩樣???鄉民那麼不理性嗎? </span> 07/13 00:45
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">jimhgame31</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:45</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jeff0703</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推老板!武就小 </span> 07/13 00:45
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">cksh8008</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:45</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">justptt</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:45</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alicelee1218</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!!! </span> 07/13 00:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cksh8008</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:YA 轉囉 </span> 07/13 00:46
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">human45</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:46</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">slashID</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR之亂 </span> 07/13 00:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:理性是留給有理性的版主,沒理性的版主就只能用野性了 </span> 07/13 00:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">munichuihsin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XD </span> 07/13 00:47
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">alansher</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:48</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">panruru1224</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:名留青史 </span> 07/13 00:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ibuki0709</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR版禁止推文了阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿阿 </span> 07/13 00:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d86012005</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cabal7931</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!不推不行XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iamwind7954</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反正被那桶了也沒差 太無聊了今天~_~ </span> 07/13 00:48
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">jeff0703</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:48</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">longeye709</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:49</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tryandtired</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹 睡前還能看到這篇 我今天無憾了 T_____T </span> 07/13 00:49
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">bicycleman</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:50</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">voguehan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Emmiz</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!! </span> 07/13 00:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jungchun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:媽~ 我在這 我上電視了 ~~ </span> 07/13 00:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">crispazx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:衝阿!!! </span> 07/13 00:50
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">screamout</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:51</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">imjerry30</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:51</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Castiel</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:51</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">a932751</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 FJU-ACC97b</span> 07/13 00:52</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">stevely</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:( ′﹀‵)/︴<>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <> </span> 07/13 00:53
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Darknies</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:53</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">t19910422</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 順便轉一下好了 </span> 07/13 00:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">mutzy52000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼都不桶我0.0 </span> 07/13 00:53
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">t19910422</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:53</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:版主自己內心對於哈陽屌也感到愧疚 才會火速砍文 </span> 07/13 00:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Castiel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被CCR板桶也沒差 </span> 07/13 00:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">human45</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我看直接在這邊推文~~省得砍一篇推一篇.... </span> 07/13 00:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹 讓他們死啦 破麻版主 我水桶3417天是殺小 </span> 07/13 00:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Rex1009</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 00:55
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">meteorhades</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:55</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">meteorhades</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跟上!!!! </span> 07/13 00:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">signofwind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推~老闆太讚啦!! </span> 07/13 00:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Vermicelli</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 00:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">justin771022</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!! </span> 07/13 00:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">stevely</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我還3426天 不知道是三小... 亂統 </span> 07/13 00:56
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">HHdelta</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:56</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a5091300</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/13 00:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k87559527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR 禁推了 </span> 07/13 00:57
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">nini761010</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:57</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">supermyangel</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:58</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">vump</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:58</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">North4use</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:58</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ChiChiGo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:開始有點意思了XDD </span> 07/13 00:58
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">skeric</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 NTUmed00</span> 07/13 00:58</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">globekiller</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:終身水桶喔? 好大的官威 </span> 07/13 00:59
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">std410088</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 00:59</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">boni</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:DDOS攻擊XD </span> 07/13 01:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">miy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝 </span> 07/13 01:01
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">mypineapple</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:01</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">VictorFan</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:01</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:10年耶 我操 濫用職權啊 下台啦 撤銷水桶啦!!!! </span> 07/13 01:01
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">kenandrew</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:01</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">no07</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDD </span> 07/13 01:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yoyoboys1335</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超好笑哈哈 </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">s91812</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:智障喔 一堆亂轉文的 板規在那邊自己不看腦子破洞怪誰 </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這些低級的ㄈㄈ尺,汙辱了CCR。我早就講了死ㄈㄈ尺。 </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怎辦,我笑到翻掉了XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ic6413</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:乾你屌事 </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">secretmouse</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:02</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轟炸ㄈㄈ尺,保衛CCR。覺得自己不是這種人怕三小。 </span> 07/13 01:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Heeeeeee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:=================我想問CCR怎麼走!================== </span> 07/13 01:03
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Zhang274</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:03</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pvn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDD </span> 07/13 01:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kiyasolong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 01:03
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">CrazyLord</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:03</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">encorej02071</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上那個ㄈㄈ尺 這篇到底哪裡違反版規阿XDD </span> 07/13 01:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">joe1152000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推一個 </span> 07/13 01:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gayo781021</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我看到也想到前面推文貼的疊字情侶...很像編的 </span> 07/13 01:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pop31322003</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推^_^ </span> 07/13 01:04
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">liangjack</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:04</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">LoYuMing</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:04</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Jerryis5566</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:05</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">ss056</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:05</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">MadMac</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:05</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kkii5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:05
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">nini761010</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好慘 只能轉一次 現在只能看戲了 </span> 07/13 01:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddkkk100</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:06
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">tigerflyer</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:06</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:MFC 一個台灣妹一個日本妹 生放送中!!!! </span> 07/13 01:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jfy76530</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超讚的辣~~邦你推一個~到爆 </span> 07/13 01:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tigerflyer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖轉 </span> 07/13 01:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kingarmy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDXD超讚的啦~ </span> 07/13 01:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Chiaor</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCr朝聖!!! </span> 07/13 01:08
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Chiaor</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:08</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ranch99</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 01:09
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">ProductionIG</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:09</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">comercial</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:09</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ghtwht</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:09
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">a932751</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:09</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ckuyar</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/13 01:10
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">aphrodite98</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我是也覺得這篇很好笑 但這樣去亂別人版.....不對吧? </span> 07/13 01:10
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">LeeGarDer</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:10</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">openwang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽阿XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:10
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">PTTliang</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:10</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">papertim</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:10</span>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluechilly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">::) </span> 07/13 01:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icq7584</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:聖光啊 </span> 07/13 01:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tuty</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:11
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">sr20det</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:11</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉文的...這樣亂轉真的很無聊= = </span> 07/13 01:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wahaha54</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推一個,老闆真男人XDD </span> 07/13 01:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hh440977</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!! 這團勇者真壯觀 </span> 07/13 01:12
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">y800122155</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCRomance</span> 07/13 01:12</span>
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">blacklittle</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太誇張了 前仆後繼 </span> 07/13 01:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Meters13</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:...實在是沒必要這樣 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:說真的,CCR板主不這樣的話,鄉民也不會像瘋了似的一直衝 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">neverli</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我猜可以持續到三四點 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d582776354</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太扯了 朝聖給推XDDDD </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ibugi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了!!!! </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gsxgsxtt</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靜版了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">qazedc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:\\\\\\\\\\\qaz家族!! 聲援56家族!! 大伙進攻了!!///////// </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">v63718x4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:單純轉過去 CCR版主馬上刪文 說裡面有歧視字 好大的官威 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽啦 隱版啦~~~(灑花 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wind164</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mutzy52000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了xddd </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ggyyhippo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR隱版了? </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">iamwind7954</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了= =? </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了......... </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">blacklittle</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱了 可惡 不應該出來的 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">u8912020</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:該睡覺了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">MadMac</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了XDD </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:都鬧成這樣CCR還不隱板嗎... </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fysppig3701</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嘖 隱版了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">encorej02071</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:居然隱版了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LeeGarDer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bicycleman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了,雞排沒吃完的可以冰起來了 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">secretmouse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版再現 </span> 07/13 01:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">neverli</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:damn </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bluerain0958</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了XD </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">HHdelta</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hh440977</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:才去看一下就隱版哪招! </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Harute</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR是一言堂大家都知道 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rabbit7630</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了= =" </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Aw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我們拿下第一勝了!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a4567803</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Sonas</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我才過去CCR一分鐘,那邊就隱板了XDD </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">icq7584</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了+.+...這是光榮的一戰 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">industrialld</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給轉文的勇者致敬! </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">globekiller</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:早就該隱了 板主處理慢半拍=.= </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Frankie1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:終於搞到他隱版了!! </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bineapple</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bicycleman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我才剛秀完簽名黨耶!!! </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">qazedc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:\\\\\\\\\\\qaz家族!! 聲援56家族!! 大伙進攻了!!///////// </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Chiaor</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱了...睡覺了 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嘖,才剛說完就隱板 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">juliefju</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了QQ </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了…炸彈兵只好回家睡覺了 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chinhan1216</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR隱版了 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:正常能量釋放 考驗版主的能力而已xDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">s07021990</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:睡覺了 機掰 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">MMMMM</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽哈哈 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluechilly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">StanShan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺版主某洞淘? </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了~~~~~哈哈哈哈哈 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">meteorhades</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了 該睡了 </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mike30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:才看一下就癮版了 不過癮啦XDD </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">TheMidnight</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:敬禮 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ssshcheer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只要ccr還是一言堂的一天! </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ii9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDD → Aw:我們拿下第一勝了!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">v63718x4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好色龍大的meme超爆笑的XDDD 寫實派 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kingarmy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一秒還看到..第二秒版主拎了一堆水桶,第三秒變隱版 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">screamout</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:戰役結束.... </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">oncememory</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嗚嗚~隱版了 早知不要出來的 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:自己愛砍+水桶 轟炸活該XD </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:各位轉文的勇者以及開第一槍的Lose大,請再受小弟一拜 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ghtwht</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版啦!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HakkaTV</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:之前隱版消息傳開讓大家都在等他開版 開後更亂 笨笨的... </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ggyyhippo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實無意義要亂的話很早就亂了 導火線是ccr版主處理方式 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluerain0958</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給各位勇者一推!! </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Dawei1165</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:終於可以睡了哈哈哈 </span> 07/13 01:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">atnona</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給勇者們推!!! </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">openwang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版了阿哈哈哈 </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ggyyhippo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:終於可以來去睡了XD </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">minutepop</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖給勇者推! 媽我在這~ </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">crab3895</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:水啊!! </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">m74279</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Harute</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:晚安 </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CCPenis</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我準備要PO而已就隱了 埃... </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">y800122155</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我搶到尾PO嗎? 第14000PO XD </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:他不鎖文也不會造成這麼多轉文= = </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">les5277</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好多炸彈魔XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDX </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icq7584</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家可以回家啦 </span> 07/13 01:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LeeGarDer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家晚安 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:挑釁好鬥的鄉民是很恐怖的 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yooza</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看到一半隱版... </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:晚安啦!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">s91812</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一堆腦子有洞的 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sprite5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好兇喔 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">encorej02071</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推回來 補血 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">arararare</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幫補 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Quintella</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推回來 </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我還沒看完.... </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ic6413</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉戰 L_PTTAvenue </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">meredith001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">crispazx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人崩潰啦~~ </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Aw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鄉民是惹不起的!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">yuehjian</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推回來 哈哈哈哈哈阿 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">AlRobbins</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:到底啥是ㄈㄈ尺 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個S開頭一直噓 擺明就是內__ </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噓以亂版為樂的人 版主鎖文又如何 一定要這樣亂版? </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a23639978a</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:玩太兇了齁,這下沒得玩了 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluechilly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:換戰這邊了嗎^_< </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LoYuMing</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:0.o </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rhinoii</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鄉民半夜不睡覺喔 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">imyours2207</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推勇者們 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:戰力太弱,換個強一點的好嗎? </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:補血~幫推~ </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">openwang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好兇好兇喔 我要叫歪國人保護我 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sdewazx</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點不是西餐,而是她有男朋友了!! </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噓的是怎樣 爽啦 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">icq7584</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可敬的對手 能再多找幾個嗎 </span> 07/13 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">snsd9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:婊子,這是宣戰! </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推這張龍大的圖 <a href="http://i.imgur.com/uDaYR.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/uDaYR.png</a> </span> 07/13 01:19
<div align="center"><a href="http://imgur.com/uDaYR" target="_blank" class="img" rel="nofollow"><div style="display:inline-block;width:651px;height:721px"><img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://i.imgur.com/uDaYR.png" alt="[圖]" /></div></a> </div>
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">frmre</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我還是不懂CCR版主刪第一篇轉文的理由= = </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bicycleman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點是他是CCR"PUMA" 懂嗎 </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hh440977</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:他沒想過開板之後會更多人轉嗎= = </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這是宣戰!!! </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alex90236</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超好笑的!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">flyho</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鄉民 沒有極限!! </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">babufong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給勇者們一個推! </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺要戰這邊嗎,不然我要睡了 </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:剛V大就噓過一次了 </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:原本好好一篇文章... 單純覺得亂轉文這種行為很無聊 </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyle1101</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 爽 </span> 07/13 01:19
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s9403</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還好睡前先逛一下笨版 這太好笑了XDDD </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LoYuMing</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:累積已久的怨氣 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dddnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:如果第一篇文章不被牽強的理由刪文 後續也不會有人想轉文 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">arararare</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:紅明顯 版主桶第一篇文不好好解釋 被亂剛好 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andrew5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:騎車沒發簍到進攻。loser大及各位勇者請受小弟一拜 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:引發ㄈㄈ尺第二次進攻的聖碑文!(跪拜 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">frason330</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">bicycleman</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:宣戰拉!!! -------]-O=(ˋ皿ˊ)=口 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ZincSaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:刀板主崩潰 </span> 07/13 01:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:感謝各位幫我復仇 幹 統3400多天是殺小 </span> 07/13 01:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">papertim</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超好玩的,你們這些ㄈㄈ尺有什麼不滿嗎?XDD </span> 07/13 01:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板了 XDDD ㄈㄈ尺崩潰 大家一夜好眠 XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR版主自己肚量小亂刪文加亂桶,被亂剛好而已 </span> 07/13 01:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Rex1009</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:誰叫他亂封 不封不就沒事了 </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hnrywang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺崩潰XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s7812022</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!! </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨板平常時是爆還是hot??? </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ElvesDaniel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR:聖光啊 你有看到那連續的轉文嗎? </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kenandrew</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:炎炎夏日 要一起進水桶的各位 晚安 </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">diefox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDD </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hl4</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:靠 來晚了,我也想轉文阿 </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mutzy52000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要睡覺了~大家晚安 </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sherryofyou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可是文中那女的欠噓的原因明明是劈腿跟道德淪喪吧?? </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a23639978a</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨板本來就很有人氣的(挺 </span> 07/13 01:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ccps0711</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ssshcheer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PTT有個記載ptt歷史的板 那個板叫什麼啊? 一時想不起來 </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s9403</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ptthistory? </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PTThistoey?? </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Visnjic</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:革命尚未成功~大家仍須努力!(我雞排吃到一半要冰起來惹 </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">arararare</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ALLPOST? </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">SBH3</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:也太有趣了!!! </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sherryofyou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跟男方是不是台灣人無關吧??(我以為CCR字面上純指 </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">y800122155</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 這裡有備份 <a href="http://ppt.cc/Ja0~" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ppt.cc/Ja0~</a> 可以follow一下XDD </span> 07/13 01:23
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:科科,就是某版主心態問題,怪人轉文?真好笑 </span> 07/13 01:23
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:allpo那邊三天的文章就找不到了.....= =A </span> 07/13 01:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alpha008</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:睡前來朝聖推一下XD </span> 07/13 01:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:y800122155幹得好! XD </span> 07/13 01:24
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">livtyler0828</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XD </span> 07/13 01:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yinjui</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:居然還被份WW </span> 07/13 01:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">alvis000</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD </span> 07/13 01:25
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是你們不懂得尊重,版主才會刪文,無聊當有趣, </span> 07/13 01:25
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sherryofyou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:異國戀?)還是說其實"CCR"已經有"私生活不檢點"的前提? </span> 07/13 01:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:14000 + 7/13 y800122155 轉 [無言] ㄈㄈ尺正夯 </span> 07/13 01:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ElvesDaniel</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈 還有偽公告 笑死我了 XD 敬可敬的勇士們 </span> 07/13 01:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HornyDragon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:尊重咧 板主有先尊重轉文的板友嗎 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你得到14000篇了XD </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ABON0828</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我比較好奇CCR版的功能是? 求助如何CCR? 分享自己的CCR? </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Y大太威了 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">imyours2207</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:尊重什麼?劈腿喔 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">HornyDragon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:明明是當玩笑看的東西 轉到CCR像要命 被鬧剛好 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:明顯 去組務看我申請的罷免... </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版還覺得勝利? 你們也只能躲在電腦螢幕後,有種上 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:護航的 請先搞清楚是誰先不尊重誰 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:呵呵 ㄈㄈ尺正夯 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:抱歉沒逛過ccr不知版主如何處理 只是看到一堆人瘋狂轉文很.. </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺要噓要刪 就是該推文的時候了 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyle1101</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇不知道可以釣出多少愛吸洋屌的 有人統計一下嗎 </span> 07/13 01:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">openwang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:雞排要切不要辣 順便來一杯綠茶消消油脂 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:紅明顯 版主亂桶就不用尊重人喔 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:尊重? 怎麼 說個真實案例刺痛你們幼小的心靈了嗎? 水桶? </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Refauth</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推爆再說 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">g380risde</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:比較好奇版規六是啥 禁酸嗎 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:亂刪文加亂桶還要別人尊重,CCR版主特權嗎?真好 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Rex1009</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈 亂桶人也敢提尊重 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*給我羊屌=其餘免談*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:街要求立法不準ccr跟外配 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fysppig3701</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR之前就有被戰過耶XD </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版然後開分身上來戰,科科 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">f08281206</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!不知道等等還有沒有戲看先去買個吃得好了 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">m555888</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR的功能就是去體驗頂到肺阿 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jyekid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鄉民們好激烈 </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:罷免去哪個版@@ </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fergie1024</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笑慘XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小組啊 上面第二 </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">autumnwind10</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:罷免不是那樣申請的= = </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:又來了喔 </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇順利的話會變成聖碑之一 </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還立法哩 我記得東南亞的不算CCR喔 上次有人分享外配被砍 </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:罷免都不會... </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上次就是有人在那裏亂 發什麼越南情緣 擺明是鬧板 </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我知道啊 就查不到被水桶的文章了 </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">h4k</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:懶得跟一堆ㄈㄈ尺 PUMA廢話 for fun, why so serious? </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:@poohiceyi 你根本就沒搞清楚重點 原文根本沒要戰CCR </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LonelyCupid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:該板主臉書粉絲團還很安靜XDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:然後被刪就酸說越南情緣不是CCR </span> 07/13 01:28
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:蛙馬謀法杜~ </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點是有男友了 誰跟你不准ccr </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:NewBoard 申請 ◎PTT 連署系統 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LeeGarDer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:越南情緣不算CCR喔? </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ztp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鍵盤軍師推測 CCR隱版有可能打算另闢戰場 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">autumnwind10</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你去看完怎樣罷免再來好嗎 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼東南亞的不算? </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是你們那個版主自己敏感過頭+心靈脆弱(或者根本是他?) </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HareGun</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:超婊的~ </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:罷免申請 NewBoard 申請 ◎PTT 連署系統 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那日本算嗎? </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:桶什麼 Why so serious? </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就某版心態簡直跟一言堂&戒嚴沒兩樣 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vaiking0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:之前在美國待過一陣子 認識一些白人朋友 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有男友不能CCR喔? 你要不要看男的有女友還偷吃大家會怎麼說 </span> 07/13 01:29
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我是沒ccr過的人妻,那來的脆弱心靈XD </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhs710041</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:越南不算喔? 顆顆 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vaiking0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:他們說 亞洲女性的下面很緊 所以他們很愛 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我也要去CCR了 MFC去 東洋妹生放送中 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有勇者開個罷免嗎^_______________^ </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:稍微有人踏進去喊個ㄈㄈ尺就自尊心受創一樣,真好笑 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">m555888</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:因為東南亞不是西洋劇(吸陽具) </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人只會說只能躲在螢幕後面,忘了自己也是躲在後面噓文 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:SEABOX惱羞喔呵呵 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vaiking0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:到亞洲找獵物 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哇靠 不只原文重點沒抓到 連短短推文都看不懂了 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vaiking0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹完就閃人 </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖啦!! </span> 07/13 01:30
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家怎麼說了? 你舉例阿 那男的應該也會被婊阿= = </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我說的是版主 你跟我說你沒CCR過幹嘛 想笑死誰XDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在笨版說這些太嚴肅了,走吧,回去黑特開文吧 XD </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:腦修勒 看你們瘋狂亂轉亂板還搞得自己是正義份子一樣 </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:擺明就哈 別人PO負面消息就桶 這啥心理 </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:東南亞不算ㄈㄈ尺 </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vaiking0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR隱版 </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:WEGO不就被酸得很慘 大樹不也被酸得很慘 你是提油救火吧 </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">BabybearXD</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人女朋友是CCR所以崩潰了? </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我沒轉啊 我很理性耶 你在生氣什麼啦!!!! </span> 07/13 01:31
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ABON0828</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉這篇文章被刪文+水桶n個月,理由是文章中有髒字... </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">tracyb860627</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:菜哺蛋!!!!!!!!!!!!!哈哈猜廢墟!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為什麼? 為什麼東南亞的不算? </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看來有人想挑戰大家 想成為戰戰神 </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:歐美高級貨,你們這些酸民不懂箇中滋味啦~ </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s2101001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!真是大快人心! </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">tysh710320</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我也沒轉阿 你在大聲什麼 </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:東南亞還是算ASIAN.... </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:正義建立在多數人身上 有種你禁止所有人發言也可以 </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">takahashikag</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:War has being......XD </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ABON0828</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有時候不是別人用異色眼光看你,而是你自己心中已經有鬼 </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個case可以噓,但是轉文就是給我以個體看全體, </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:poohiceyi 我好奇CCR版主是你誰...?? </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:都21世紀了,還在種族歧視嗎? </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">natoran</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:東南亞當然不算CCR,j大 </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jkasc28s</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 01:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dragonsoul</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:都能隔空水桶了 </span> 07/13 01:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:咱們跟他戰干卿底事?? </span> 07/13 01:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:所以seabox的是哪一國的啦,分享一下,反正ㄈㄈ尺現在隱版 </span> 07/13 01:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhs710041</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Q_Q邏輯不成立呀,CCR不適跨國嗎XDDDD </span> 07/13 01:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">o3208</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:東南亞 錯了嗎 </span> 07/13 01:33
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">aa384756</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:shinshong你不知道美國還是有種族歧視的嗎特別是某些學校 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR版主:你在東南亞什麼啦!!!! </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">snsd9</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你 在 大 聲 什 魔 啦 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Jm,是有人說我的幼小心靈受傷不是跟你解釋 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隔空水桶超經典啊,那版主根本有眼線 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:所以你看 擺明歧視 亞洲國家就不能ㄈㄈ尺 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">victorars</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!要是我也要對AB男說讚XDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">Hiwcn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不是異國戀 但看不過去鄉民這種幼稚行為 在笨版講就好 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">openwang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Just fo fun ok? Why so serious? </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ZincSaga</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:無情的護衛隊來了 </span> 07/13 01:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可能寂寞難奈想替CCR版主護航一下增加自己的存在感吧 </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我知道啊 但是這裡是台灣 OK? </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:亞洲國家不算CCR? 誰講的阿 酸酸講的嗎 </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pikakami</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:東南亞不好嗎,CCR </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">harrey810719</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推老闆XD </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sboy1111</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幼稚行為CCR的處理方式不會比較成熟,被鬧剛好 </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CN091118</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖了阿....XD </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ohhoho</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:可以借我貼到FB嗎??真是太讚了!!! </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:等CCR隱板完自己去精華區看 裡面什麼國家都有 </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">push1997</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好笑~ </span> 07/13 01:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:poohiceyi你是哪位~?什麼給我以個體看全體 </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:娶烏克蘭金絲貓錯了嗎 </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!! </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Heeeeeee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Cross Country Romance...... </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:咱們轉這篇去CCR板就是對文中的A男B男致敬而已 </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:呃~~CCR板有說亞洲不是CCR嗎?還滿多日韓港的啊 </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:要問桶的人是不是心靈受傷才桶人阿 他有尊重嗎? </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被鬧剛好 水桶不尊重人就掰掰了~ </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:=========NewBoard 申請 ◎PTT 連署系統 ========= </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s2101001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第二次聖戰的檄文,讚! </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">brian5418</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爆就靠我了!!! </span> 07/13 01:36
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ma4wanderer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嘿嘿 </span> 07/13 01:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: ㄈㄈ尺流亡戰士 對抗 笨版村民 </span> 07/13 01:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">mormasker666</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我不認識版主,只是我不喜歡鬧版而已。 </span> 07/13 01:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看不下去就要仗義直言!! </span> 07/13 01:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:給點尊重嘛~亂桶不好喔 </span> 07/13 01:37
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:娶對岸大陸新娘的也是ccr阿 </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CN091118</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不是有人放了越南情緣被打槍?XD </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鄉民的正義快上映囉 </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一次ccr之亂就是因為歧視東南亞咩,先去google很難嗎? </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Heeeeeee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上面形成了一個向左箭頭XD </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Maziger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!! 幹 好多自殺炸彈客 </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:恩? 那為啥分享外配的是擺明亂板? 另外 </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:越南那篇他是說 他花30萬娶越南新娘的文 後來被版主刪了 </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不知道這次隱版期間,CCR版友們要到哪邊悲憤... </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:越南情緣自介被打槍,引發第一血腥抗戰...結局:隱版 </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上一次CCR之亂印象中就是越南情緣PO過去被桶...= =A </span> 07/13 01:38
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ricrollp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:來朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:歧視東南亞? 那幾天剛我都有跟到好嗎 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上次大戰我就查過CCR板上越 泰 印尼 大馬的文章 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Minkowski</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!! </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Tankcat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:完全不意外阿 ㄈㄈ尺 沒有藍眼珠的都是_物 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨版ㄈㄈ尺蠢事轉文再度打槍,引發第二次瞬間戰火 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一篇出來的就是花錢娶越南新娘 被刪除 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">akon84023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只吃菜哺蛋 不會太鹹嗎????? 那不是要配白色的...稀飯 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:直譯就叫跨國的浪漫 跟越南情緣差不多啊 </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:反正ccr被鬧也不影響我的生活,只是這樣作有意義嗎? </span> 07/13 01:39
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:後來才開始一堆人跑去亂 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Neurontin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽度問題 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d86012005</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:潮爽的 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HEROxHERO</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大人不得不推 XD </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:很少 也沒啥人回應 日 韓 港 就一堆人迴響 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上次有流竄到各版被打臉,最後還是等開版回去取暖zzz </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gnrxjapan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:覺得有意義才會轉過去吧 爽也是一種意義 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:眾人皆醉我獨醒,科科,向來這種都是擺明來討戰的 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我一開始也以為他是歧視東南亞阿 不過後來有人解釋 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就真的很沒意義啊這樣亂版= = </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不是我要幫CCR說話,用錢買的的確不符合R所代表的意思啊 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那你現在跟我們叫囂又有意義嗎~~~~~~~鳩咪>.^ </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:精華區有東南亞情緣的文章 </span> 07/13 01:40
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽而已爽而已爽而已爽而已爽而已爽而已 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">puma510285</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還沒看到罷免文 loser大加油!! </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:自認與眾不同卻禁不起人家說幾句 被瞧不起是剛好 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:後來就開始有人在亂說齊是東南亞 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:R是指羅曼史,談戀愛的過程,買的新娘又沒有 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒意義的事情可多了 其實在這邊討論亂版有沒有意義 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">HsiaoHsiu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我不認識CCR版主和poohiceyi,只是我不喜歡你們沒品而已 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mnhyuiop</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:冷卻一下腦子吧 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">nelly5477</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:讚啦 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">superhope</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yf86047</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:41
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:東南亞那個後來不是證明是反串? </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chikan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:nice play </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shhs1000246</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被講幾句就自信心受創 被鬧錯了嗎? </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:本身就是一件很沒意義的事情 版主亂砍文水桶就超有品^^ </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還以為GOOGLE就正確? 那不過都是後來去亂板的人寫的 </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">cg6445</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:開戰了... </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Just fo fun ok? Why so serious?(我下面很...?趕快...) </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gimmy5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈哈哈哈!太屌了 </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhs710041</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:KERKER 隔岸觀火 </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dominic5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好文推~ </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:唉 有人一個人就想代表真理 戰力好弱 我想去睡覺了 </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上一次鬧到後來隔空水桶的怎麼不拿出來說?? (挖鼻孔) </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:喂!等一下,請問現在哪裡有賣雞排啊,等我、等我! </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 我也想當戰士阿~~~~ </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">easybaby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sam77277</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!! </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">eross</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:算我認輸也可以 </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:保險套100 潤滑劑50 按摩棒280 跳蛋500 洋屌"無價" </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">poohiceyi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:討厭我ok呀,不痛不癢,反正隱版了,大家乖乖等開版 </span> 07/13 01:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">adidas168</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!XDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:戰力好弱!!強一點可以嗎? </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a4567803</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:睡前再推一次 </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:戰士範例:一群鄉民自以為有品,亂轉文去亂版意義何在? </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jetzake</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:潤滑劑50好向太便宜瞜?? 黑心國來的?? </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CCRsuck5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 太晚跟到 來不及當戰士 </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">einejack</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推到百頁 </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hjchang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: CCR又隱版了喔 CCR都是草莓族嗎?? </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">carolsean294</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:上次大戰時,版主跟小組長的處理都很...再被亂不奇怪... </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jason2008</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:範例2:鬧版文刪文合情合理,酸民不爽不要看! </span> 07/13 01:44
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hjchang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:被亂活該 上次就在亂搞了 科科 淫窟 </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bluechilly</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我在考慮要睡覺還是吃宵夜....XD </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">will0913</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:聖碑!! </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ee012345</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鎖版了 </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">know12345</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖~~~ </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">andy199113</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好好笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hsnuyang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:視訊ㄈㄈ尺中 </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">hjchang</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只喜歡白屌 東南亞屌就不是洋屌 科科 甚麼爛邏輯 </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鎖版就是代表ㄈㄈ尺不敢面對真相(?) </span> 07/13 01:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s2101001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:別玩到被劣文就好。OTZ </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dreamsjj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖~~~推 </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鬧版?原文要酸的是劈腿不是CCR 這麼敏感是心裡有鬼喔? </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jhs710041</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:止羲小起人要起飛惹 </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sleepybaby</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:潮勝 </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">biycer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱板就是版主想睡了的最佳證明= = </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那邊就只能取暖而已阿(挖鼻 </span> 07/13 01:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">soda0211</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XDD </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">survivor524</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真棒~~只能給推了XDD 哇哈哈!!!! </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">kapeika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:亂版很好玩= =? </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">f08281206</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還不錯阿^^ </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">know12345</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好玩 </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sprite5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推 </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:正義魔人們要開始高__了嗎 </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Andy5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪裡亂版了? </span> 07/13 01:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR版主標準怪怪很爛沒錯 鬧板的也沒好到哪去 </span> 07/13 01:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:請kapeika針對文章內容虛文好嗎?這樣對po文者不太公平 </span> 07/13 01:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">TonyDavid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大推XDD </span> 07/13 01:48
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有問題的不是原文 是指某些推文者還有亂版者的心態吧 </span> 07/13 01:48
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">door1002</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!! </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Zaron</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!! </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">QQmother</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有問題的是CCR板主阿 有人轉原文過去就被桶了XDD </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:But ... How about your boyfriend?(只是備胎) </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">q0r0p</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你刪文還水桶 那篇文章哪邊不對? </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kenandrew</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怎麼不說問題源頭是版主 </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hahahi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!! </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gnrxjapan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上你.....確定嗎? </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:v大又噓了第3次了 </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">wind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:seabox:CCR版主標準怪怪很爛沒錯 鬧板的也沒好到哪去 </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有問題的是CCR的版主 </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">gnrxjapan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:阿我是說vvn30 </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kapeika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽啊~就跟轉這篇文去CCR的人心態一樣囉 噓超好玩的^^ </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">PureLove4U</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:的確沒必要這樣... </span> 07/13 01:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">force5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:每次亂ccr都有跟到,這次看nba沒跟到,殘念 </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">smiletouch</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一次爆! </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:其實一開始想噓的就是atv大你的推文 </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">larra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推推推 推推推 推推推 推推推 推推推 推推推 推推砲 </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那護航的心態是什麼 很奇怪ㄟ你~ </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我一直有在注意,我們不過轉個文過去,那篇文章哪裡有問題? </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖再推 </span> 07/13 01:50
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一個轉文過去的就是我!我敢說我心態跟您不大一樣 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ohmygod0707</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噗噗 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kenandrew</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:問題就是你處碰到ㄈㄈ尺的心靈底線 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噓護航者 轉文還不能轉負面消息的喔 一言堂喔? </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉文難道錯了嗎?本文也跟ㄈㄈ尺有關系阿 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">BRIANKUO</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我在勇者下面>////< </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">midnightsnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上勇者~~~拜~~<(_ _)> </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我知道阿!只是我沒把你爆出來而已 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉文過去就被莫名刪文+水桶 哪邊有問題很明顯 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哇靠 也蓋太快 哭哭 </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">LostRanger</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者出現!快拜! </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">FelixKroos</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">akon84023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser9527:第一個轉文過去的就是我! </span> 07/13 01:51
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 補推 </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Ghosso</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者快拜! </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">dreamsjj</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者~~~~~ </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:再說當事者(女)自己有男朋友還找洋砲 是很偉大嗎??? </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者阿~~ </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒有要噓原PO的意思 補推 </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gnrxjapan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:勇者~~ </span> 07/13 01:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">know12345</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖x2 </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kapeika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不偉大呀~但一竿子打翻一船人也好不到哪裡去 </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">drumdicro</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!! </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">AirPenguin</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<(_ _)> </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a61216z</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser9527:第一個轉文過去的就是我! 挖到聖杯的勇者 </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:m(_ _)m </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mnhyuiop</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser9527:第一個轉文過去的就是我! 挖到聖杯的勇者 </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kapeika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:同樣一篇文章一直轉的用意也不知道是什麼 或許每位轉文 </span> 07/13 01:53
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有人一竿子打翻一船人嗎? </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:甚麼時候打翻一船人了...就說了原文酸劈腿不酸CCR </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HsiaoHsiu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:到底哪裡打到一船人了? 完全是自卑心作祟吧... </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loser9527</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:請kapeika確實搞清楚今天會被亂版的原因...加油,好唄? </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kapeika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:的人可以說一下自己心態是啥XD </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這個案例是不能在CCR版討論一下嗎? </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">force5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有夠草莓,這樣就崩潰到隱板XD </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒哈洋屌的在心虛啥? ps:我愛洋苞!!! </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只是剛好這女的剛好劈到洋屌 還是你的意思是CCR都劈腿 </span> 07/13 01:54
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:KAPEIKA 你怎麼不問CCR版主『真正刪文理由為何』?? </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:說洋屌大OK 說洋屌會致癌就不行 你殺小? </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ewewew</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點是老闆也聽的懂英文... </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">akon84023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:渡船來的吧... </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">mnhyuiop</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:狂推勇者LOSER9527。某人真吵.......... </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:為何要刪文 這跟CCR也有關係阿 </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kapeika</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:嘖 不是隱版了嗎?問鬼喔... </span> 07/13 01:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:對阿! 大家一直在模糊焦點,為什麼要刪文+水桶 </span> 07/13 01:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你以為CCR是烏托邦喔? </span> 07/13 01:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s2101001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 推 loser9527:第一個轉文過去的就是我! </span> 07/13 01:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆說不定只聽得懂AB說的那些阿 只是反過去猜到 </span> 07/13 01:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Seirra</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser9527:第一個轉文過去的就是我! 挖到聖杯的勇者 </span> 07/13 01:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR版主自己沒肚量 亂刪文+搞一言堂 這還要怪鄉民喔??? </span> 07/13 01:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">beachnote</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就CCR版主心中覺得歪國人就是神歪國人不可被褻瀆 </span> 07/13 01:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">mnhyuiop</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:loser9527:第一個轉文過去的就是我! 挖到聖杯的勇者 </span> 07/13 01:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sugizo0</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鍵盤鬥士「kapeika」 </span> 07/13 01:57
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">ian931149</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:ㄈㄈ尺的版主是誰啊? </span> 07/13 01:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:... </span> 07/13 01:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:版主喔...上次大戰完,小組長空降了一位weedyc(?) </span> 07/13 01:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">joke610291</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版囉 </span> 07/13 01:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隱版要多久才會重開? </span> 07/13 01:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sandycrazy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:而且7/1請辭了到現在還沒受到其他版主附議這樣 </span> 07/13 01:59
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">summeruse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老實說我看不懂這篇的笨點 </span> 07/13 01:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">llllllll5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:版主睡飽就開啦 明天繼續捅 </span> 07/13 01:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">liangmax</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:簽名留念 </span> 07/13 01:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:剛剛引起騷動的就是w開頭的那位 </span> 07/13 02:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:補推 </span> 07/13 02:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">happyzoo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!!! </span> 07/13 02:01
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨點喔 就是辣妹用英文約外國人搞一夜情 </span> 07/13 02:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">locjames</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:黑特版來朝聖推!! </span> 07/13 02:01
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:結果被旁邊懂英文的路人公開姦情 </span> 07/13 02:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xcy1309xw</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆有帥到XDD </span> 07/13 02:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:烏托邦的版主只需要會四招:刪文、劣退、水桶、隱版。 </span> 07/13 02:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dafuq</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆強!!! </span> 07/13 02:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ratsk8</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 02:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">akon84023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨點也可能是 外國人關心人家的男朋友吧! </span> 07/13 02:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:出現爭議大概都會被上頭的河蟹掉吧 </span> 07/13 02:03
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">summeruse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太硬凹了吧 = = </span> 07/13 02:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">valentinofu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:純粹想說...... 媽~我在這!! </span> 07/13 02:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yongqing</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/75hcjod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/75hcjod</a> </span> 07/13 02:04
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">s2101001</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:刪文→隱板→水桶、劣退 目前進行到第二階段 早上待續 </span> 07/13 02:04
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">seabox</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇發在黑特比較適合吧 </span> 07/13 02:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">al0313</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:此篇必推!! 好多勇者XD </span> 07/13 02:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a61216z</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:還要會鎖文 你太小看隱版版主了 </span> 07/13 02:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kylecheng</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推! </span> 07/13 02:08
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:敢公然約砲 就不要怕被路人酸啦 </span> 07/13 02:09
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">summeruse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:亂板還那麼多理由 好聖潔 我無法理解(攤手) </span> 07/13 02:09
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">qoo60606</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:你學長買飯的經歷 為什麼主詞是你阿 </span> 07/13 02:09
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:對不起,我還忘了鎖文跟大絕招"隔空水桶"... </span> 07/13 02:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">lisoukou</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR=跨文化的羅曼史 不過約砲視同一夜情(都約晚上了) </span> 07/13 02:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:"幫他PO上來"某樓沒在看? </span> 07/13 02:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">flameteru</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:張99表示 </span> 07/13 02:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">imyours2207</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幫推 </span> 07/13 02:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">casterck</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDD ㄈㄈ尺大戰 </span> 07/13 02:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qoo60606</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:"胖子"剛剛去政大前面買菜脯蛋 我只好邊喝綠茶邊等 </span> 07/13 02:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Hiyosaca</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈哈哈 哈哈哈哈哈哈 洋人的東西! </span> 07/13 02:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kellorkimo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆超酷!!! </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">qoo60606</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我不懂這句 </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jasonfancgc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈哈哈 "哈"洋人的東西 C‧C‧R </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">force5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨板鄉民真威,比數字板還快讓ccr崩潰 </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">valentinofu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:贏了!! </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">harryken7777</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇是跨國戀情阿!!為啥轉到CCR版就被刪文加水桶? </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kslxd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隔空水桶是什麼 </span> 07/13 02:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">stevenkuo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:Ha </span> 07/13 02:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:@force5566 其實還有joke版(我就是 很久沒看笨版了) </span> 07/13 02:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">j801113</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推老闆 </span> 07/13 02:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">crgc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就在別板po文"冒犯"到,然後在ccr板桶? </span> 07/13 02:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jimhgame31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在Joke看到才跑來笨版的XDDDDDD </span> 07/13 02:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">klbur</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:見證歷史的一刻 </span> 07/13 02:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sleepdevil</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推~ 唉呦怎麼隱版了 </span> 07/13 02:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">d8107d</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推!!政大推!!XDDDDD </span> 07/13 02:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xcvfrd</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:開版有勇者要繼續嗎? </span> 07/13 02:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:crgc正解,上次有苦主在數字版講話,在CCR被浸... </span> 07/13 02:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">shinshong</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隔空水桶也太屌了吧.... </span> 07/13 02:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jyekid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:傳說中的隔山水桶嗎 </span> 07/13 02:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">iceiceme</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點不是西餐,而是她有男朋友了!! </span> 07/13 02:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">crgc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隔山打牛 隔隔隔 隔山打不到 嗝 </span> 07/13 02:16
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jyekid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:跟某些人談理性是很難的..... </span> 07/13 02:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a61216z</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:會不會是因為你們都打中文? </span> 07/13 02:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">TIouChen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:今天開了眼界了XD </span> 07/13 02:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隔山打不到XD </span> 07/13 02:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太 大 意 惹 </span> 07/13 02:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jyekid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真的很扯 </span> 07/13 02:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gygg543</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 02:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">victoryss</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 超好笑 </span> 07/13 02:19
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">vvn30</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:...就別繼續自殺式攻擊了吧 </span> 07/13 02:20
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">EricXD</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 02:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:阿阿,抱歉,我不太確定是CCR還是法西斯搞出隔空水桶這招 </span> 07/13 02:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hangEasy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!! </span> 07/13 02:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:去年底這兩個版戰事不斷搞得我記憶有點亂 </span> 07/13 02:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jyekid</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好像兩個都有耶 我確定法西斯有 </span> 07/13 02:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HsiaoHsiu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:kapeika在Women Talk組團找帥哥用鍵盤打死大家 塊陶阿!! </span> 07/13 02:23
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">blackeyeo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 02:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k5a</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR板怎麼這麼脆弱?動不動就在隱板 </span> 07/13 02:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">BHooo</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: 真可惜 </span> 07/13 02:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">qscqsc310</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:a61216z:會不會是因為你們都打中文? XDDDD </span> 07/13 02:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">KGenius</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:老闆: 你叫小賀!!! </span> 07/13 02:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">merelive</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這才是台灣之光 </span> 07/13 02:32
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">force5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:等開板就去玩玩XD </span> 07/13 02:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Dawei1165</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幫推:) </span> 07/13 02:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">voguehan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大推 </span> 07/13 02:33
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">noctimoon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖XD </span> 07/13 02:33
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">akon84023</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:忘記上注音了....吼! </span> 07/13 02:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">c94dk40204</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:腿很久 才來拜一下 </span> 07/13 02:35
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cress0128</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR不是每個人都這樣嗎? </span> 07/13 02:37
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:樓上,不是所有CCR都那麼病態自卑崇洋好嗎... </span> 07/13 02:40
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不過任何一種封閉取暖的地方,大家都知道的...恩... </span> 07/13 02:42
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Clarkliu</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 洋人的東西 </span> 07/13 02:45
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kadokawa</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:搞群眾暴力也別搞錯對象好嗎 </span> 07/13 02:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">yoyoman0104</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 02:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">puddingnoeat</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推推推! </span> 07/13 02:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Roarwolf</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:隔山打牛 隔山打牛 隔隔 呃 打不到 </span> 07/13 02:51
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">Hiwcn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看不下去就說親衛隊 跟CCR無關 只是覺得不必這麼極端而已 </span> 07/13 02:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:CCR申請靜版的是weedyc~但是weedyc在7/1申請離職... </span> 07/13 02:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jasonfancgc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:"哈"洋人的東西 無誤啊 (? </span> 07/13 02:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Hiwcn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:轉一遍覺得還好 蠻有趣的 無限次這樣鬧板就有點.... </span> 07/13 02:53
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">jasonfancgc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一篇沒有被刪 應該就不會爆動了 </span> 07/13 02:54
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">encorej02071</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:就是第一篇被刪加水桶 版主又沒寫詳細原因才暴動的吧 </span> 07/13 02:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lesswind</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:第一篇沒有被刪 應該就不會爆動了 </span> 07/13 02:56
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Hiwcn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:唉 好吧 我沒有了解到事情始末 兩邊扯平 </span> 07/13 02:58
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">boyo56</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖一下 </span> 07/13 02:59
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">know12345</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖~ </span> 07/13 03:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">helloer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這篇還在討論啊.. </span> 07/13 03:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">NuClei</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:yongqing:<a href="http://tinyurl.com/75hcjod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/75hcjod</a> </span> 07/13 03:01
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NuClei</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:一群花癡取暖的好地方 </span> 07/13 03:02
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:女版還是少去吧...另一個烏托邦,聖女超多的。 </span> 07/13 03:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Atvancia</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈摟兒還沒睡阿 </span> 07/13 03:05
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">powmi</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 03:06
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">midnightsnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:是覺得鬧一次也夠了~CCR都認輸了(?) 大家就算了吧~~ </span> 07/13 03:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:小組長一天不換,CCR就永遠有戰亂隱憂 </span> 07/13 03:09
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:對愛看戲的鄉民來說可能是好事吧 </span> 07/13 03:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:重點就是 歪風不可長 聽到有媽媽會跟小孩講說啥嫁給外國 </span> 07/13 03:10
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:人之類的 這還沒停止之前 都還沒成功 </span> 07/13 03:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">midnightsnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:怎跑到組務了= =~...就降了吧~ 大家可以洗洗睡了~ </span> 07/13 03:11
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">midnightsnow</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:NS大有這麼討厭跟外國人結婚?= =這與笨無關了吧?? </span> 07/13 03:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:大家都知道小三亂搞會被嗆 如果知道亂搞外國人也會的話 </span> 07/13 03:12
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:nonono 假設你留學期間 慢慢跟一個外國人培養感情 然後 </span> 07/13 03:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈哈,法籍前房東男女關係超亂還會打女友... </span> 07/13 03:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:交心交往 這是非常好的異國戀情 但你知道現在的風氣 </span> 07/13 03:13
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:外國人終究也是人而已咩,又不是海外出生就是聖人 </span> 07/13 03:14
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">revorea</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:奇怪的是有些人就是覺得海外出生就有聖人光環orz </span> 07/13 03:15
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:那個啥法國房東跟本文 就是個 外國人 才是重點的真實寫照 </span> 07/13 03:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">NSyaoRan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好的異國戀情 也被這些人搞到分不出來了 </span> 07/13 03:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">perching0120</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:辣妹:馬的,白天才被孕婦佔一般坐位還被阿伯嗆 </span> 07/13 03:26
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">phantasy0511</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:太晚跟到 朝聖推! </span> 07/13 03:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">summeruse</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:→ NuClei:一群花癡取暖的好地方 </span> 07/13 03:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">B0858B</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/13 03:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CKlolita</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 03:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fragment1007</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹 CCR今晚又被戰翻了 </span> 07/13 03:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Heeeeeee</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推perching0120XD 辣妹的一天很衰小 </span> 07/13 04:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fragment1007</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:吸洋屌吸上癮的PUPU </span> 07/13 04:00
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">sean6308</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哪間店阿 </span> 07/13 04:11
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">dontyoulove</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 04:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Road2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:政大人必推 </span> 07/13 04:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kjes924308</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:錯過:( </span> 07/13 04:27
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">samok</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 </span> 07/13 04:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">chin0505</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:以為大家都聽不懂英文嗎XDDD笑死 </span> 07/13 04:29
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">akasuka</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好吧,其實這篇是為電影打廣告?媽,我在這 </span> 07/13 04:34
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">k04121226</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:亂板就是好玩喇,我12:30關機沒跟到,可恨 </span> 07/13 04:47
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">wencc</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推對不起自己... </span> 07/13 06:03
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">ax227762</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 06:10
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">sweetgina</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:沒看到笨點 媽我在這~ </span> 07/13 06:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">pig5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 06:13
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">otaku5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 06:15
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">milc31</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這樣電視鏡頭帶過去時我會上電視嗎~ \o/ 我在這裡阿!!! </span> 07/13 06:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">h45279802</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 太強大了 </span> 07/13 06:39
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">xampp</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖推 ptt真的處處有驚喜 </span> 07/13 06:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">CYL009</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:在這裡朝聖推會被隔空水桶嗎XDDDDDDDDD 推! </span> 07/13 06:44
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">superLM</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:哈哈 潮聖 </span> 07/13 06:46
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Kouson</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笨點很明顯:哈羊女笨到以為大家不懂她那高深難懂的英語 </span> 07/13 06:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">bulon</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:笑爆了 XD </span> 07/13 06:49
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">senria</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:爽爆 版被鬧到爆就是爽 </span> 07/13 06:52
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Lattecafem</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 06:55
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Amontillako</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 06:56
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gh34163</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 06:57
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">fukobe</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 07:01
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jeanvanjohn</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖! </span> 07/13 07:07
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">john112136</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 07:08
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">rainchan</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖+1 </span> 07/13 07:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">KingKingCold</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 07:09
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jojo5566</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 (  ̄□ ̄)/ <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) <( ̄ㄧ ̄ ) </span> 07/13 07:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kenny3780</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:特地上來朝聖的啊 讚XD 媽我在這裡!!!!!!! </span> 07/13 07:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">joyjack</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:不推不行,師大這帶更多馬的 </span> 07/13 07:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">loading1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:COOL </span> 07/13 07:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kevin31a2</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:good </span> 07/13 07:21
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">byon1009</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd </span> 07/13 07:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">penny1and1</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:朝聖 </span> 07/13 07:23
<span style="color:#F00000">噓 <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:噓的明顯 武就小是什麼意思? </span> 07/13 07:24
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">magic3658</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDXDXD </span> 07/13 07:25
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">magic3658</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:有膽識的台語 </span> 07/13 07:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">darod</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 07:26
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:謝謝魔術大 </span> 07/13 07:27
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kyouya</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:所以"就小"是膽識的台語直翻嗎 </span> 07/13 07:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">DieMolding</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD </span> 07/13 07:30
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">a2156700</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:我笑了 </span> 07/13 07:32
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">zzodkdllich</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:why so serious? XDD </span> 07/13 07:32
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">Deerette</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 L_PTTAvenue</span> 07/13 09:32</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">iskandar</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 LTK</span> 07/13 09:36</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ 編輯: ke60601 來自: 140.115.53.72 (07/13 13:48)</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">qwe810125</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 CCOBCHEER</span> 07/13 14:06</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">ibbadmin</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Test</span> 07/13 15:46</span>
<span style="color:#008000">※ <span style="color:#00F000">adis09</span><span style="color:#008000">:轉錄至看板 Neihu</span> 07/13 17:24</span>
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推 <span style="color:#FF0">irene3132002</span><span style="color:#808000">:XD</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
Re: [灌水] 因為專案需要所以要用Facebook的API...
http://disp.cc/b/254-3Wjq
2012-07-10T09:52:26+08:00
2012-07-10T09:52:26+08:00
更 我手機也填了 信用卡也填了 他還是封鎖是怎樣... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [灌水] 因為專案需要所以要用Facebook的API...<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年07月10日 Tue. AM 09:52:26</div><hr color="#008080" />
<span style="color:#008000">※ 引述《yukitowu》之銘言:</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 我一直都沒帳號,就順手申請一個。</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 一般使用者的驗證我過了,</span>
<span style="color:#008000">: 可是開發者的權限我一直過不了(怒)</span>
更 我手機也填了 信用卡也填了 他還是封鎖是怎樣...
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-07-10 09:52:26</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[灌水] 因為專案需要所以要用Facebook的API...
http://disp.cc/b/254-3Vmj
2012-07-06T14:28:38+08:00
2012-07-06T14:28:38+08:00
我一直都沒帳號,就順手申請一個。
一般使用者的驗證我過了,
可是開發者的權限我一直過不了(怒) ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] 因為專案需要所以要用Facebook的API...<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年07月06日 Fri. PM 02:28:37</div><hr color="#008080" />
我一直都沒帳號,就順手申請一個。
一般使用者的驗證我過了,
可是開發者的權限我一直過不了(怒)
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-07-06 14:28:37</span></div></pre>
yukitowu
[灌水] 我在小七試用了7WiFi看Disp...
http://disp.cc/b/254-3U3Q
2012-07-02T13:58:33+08:00
2012-07-02T13:58:33+08:00
有個有趣的問題,
就是 7WiFi 會在最前方放自己的廣告...,
雖然跟 Disp 的廣告一樣可以關掉,
可是這個廣告會造成 Disp 的內容下移,
但是部分的 Disp 功能卻不會下移,
我只記得右上角的跳頁跟分享選項不會下移,
沒關掉 7WiFi 的廣告前我還在想怎麼會沒有換頁按鈕...。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] 我在小七試用了7WiFi看Disp...<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> 2012年07月02日 Mon. PM 01:58:32</div><hr color="#008080" />
有個有趣的問題,
就是 7WiFi 會在最前方放自己的廣告...,
雖然跟 Disp 的廣告一樣可以關掉,
可是這個廣告會造成 Disp 的內容下移,
但是部分的 Disp 功能卻不會下移,
我只記得右上角的跳頁跟分享選項不會下移,
沒關掉 7WiFi 的廣告前我還在想怎麼會沒有換頁按鈕...。
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<span style="color:#008000">※ 作者: yukitowu 時間: 2012-07-02 13:58:32</span></div></pre>
monismile.
Re: [新聞] 蘇州14歲少女遭搶親被迫生子 受虐12年逃
http://disp.cc/b/254-3TUb
2012-07-01T16:14:49+08:00
2012-07-02T11:53:16+08:00
《假如被賣到大山給別人當媳婦,怎麼逃跑出來?》
一下是網友總結出來抑或搞笑,抑或認真的逃跑方案。
作為一個正宗的山區人民,我來給大家談談關于這個問題,我的看法,與一些建議。
山區其實也是分很多種的,比如我所在的山區,還是平地比較多,山群少,且矮。這樣的
地區一般適合經濟發展人民繁衍,都會發展?鎮啊縣啊市啊,有火車站汽車站飛機場神馬
的,這些地方不存在買賣媳婦兒~你們要是到這類地區玩,不用太擔心,不過也要謹防有
些人販子打著帶你到這類地區工作或遊玩或辦事的幌子,在此地中轉。
偏僻一些的山區,山路多為盤山公路,晴天也就一天幾班車,遇上大雨可能遭遇山體滑坡
道路毀壞,根本不通行。一般來說以村落為主,我去過這類的村。這樣的村落年輕人基本
都外出打工,家裏面留著的都是老人或小孩,到這樣的山區,你就要留意。如果村落還比
較發達,有小店(這點很重要!因為有小店證明此村與外界聯系還算緊密,最好店規模大
一些,每天開門的那種,不是只有零星小品,有時開門有時不開門那種~),車能直達村
落,最好離站牌很近。一般這樣的算富裕山村買賣媳婦情況也很少很少,逃跑可能性大。
最最最不幸的就是落入十分貧困的山區村落。。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> Gossiping </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> monismile (古今多少事)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> Re: [新聞] 蘇州14歲少女遭搶親被迫生子 受虐12年逃<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Sun Jul 1 16:14:49 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
《假如被賣到大山給別人當媳婦,怎麼逃跑出來?》
一下是網友總結出來抑或搞笑,抑或認真的逃跑方案。
作為一個正宗的山區人民,我來給大家談談關于這個問題,我的看法,與一些建議。
山區其實也是分很多種的,比如我所在的山區,還是平地比較多,山群少,且矮。這樣的
地區一般適合經濟發展人民繁衍,都會發展?鎮啊縣啊市啊,有火車站汽車站飛機場神馬
的,這些地方不存在買賣媳婦兒~你們要是到這類地區玩,不用太擔心,不過也要謹防有
些人販子打著帶你到這類地區工作或遊玩或辦事的幌子,在此地中轉。
偏僻一些的山區,山路多為盤山公路,晴天也就一天幾班車,遇上大雨可能遭遇山體滑坡
道路毀壞,根本不通行。一般來說以村落為主,我去過這類的村。這樣的村落年輕人基本
都外出打工,家裏面留著的都是老人或小孩,到這樣的山區,你就要留意。如果村落還比
較發達,有小店(這點很重要!因為有小店證明此村與外界聯系還算緊密,最好店規模大
一些,每天開門的那種,不是只有零星小品,有時開門有時不開門那種~),車能直達村
落,最好離站牌很近。一般這樣的算富裕山村買賣媳婦情況也很少很少,逃跑可能性大。
最最最不幸的就是落入十分貧困的山區村落。。。。。。。。。。。。-
就是屬于車都無法直達的地方~~汽車下來以後還要走很遠很遠的山路才能到達~~那種地方
若是什麼也不怎?熟悉的所謂朋友同學要帶你去玩,趁早開溜,因?一旦落入那樣的村落,
自己能逃出來的可能性為零,真的為零。
第一你醒來的時候保證身上連根針都不會留給你~~第二村裏面就是頭發花白的老奶奶跟你
動起手來的時候你都會驚奇的發現她比你力氣大的多~~~~-
還有人說~~燒菜的時候給他們食物下毒。。。或者專門燒一些相生相克的食物。。。。你
可以放一萬個心,人家根本不會讓你燒飯,就好像很多人說的那樣,新買回來的媳婦,都
是關在暗無天日的小黑屋裏面。。。。不到生出一個小孩來,不會讓你有出門的自由。。
。。。。。。
這樣的村落我只去過一次,那一次讓我刻骨銘心。
那是幾年前的冬天,家裏老人不知道為什麼非要回老家,這個老家其實他也有幾十年沒有
回去過了,還是他小時候出生的地方。然後我們就開車過去,老家早已物是人非,和老人
一個年紀的熟人不是離開老家就是早已去世,年輕的也不認識老人,我們本來打算看看就
走。這時候突然有個年輕的後輩跟老人說當年他的一個老朋友現在搬到臨近的村落去了。
老人興致勃勃的就要去,我們也就只好陪著。
農家幫我們照看車~~~
我當時就打退堂鼓,怕老人家走山路摔倒,老人家那天特別的精神,非要去,我們晚輩也
就攙扶著走。走了足足1個多小時,天都黑了,還沒看到影子,後來那個後生讓我們在原
地等著,他去叫人來接我們。最後居然來了一匹馬。。。。。我們都無語了,後生帶著老
人上馬(我們哪個都不會~~~),又是足足走了1個多小時,才到了村。
全村基本都出動來迎接我們,說實話我們當時特別的感動,大晚上的,村長還帶著一幫人
站在村口等我們。還擺了幾桌酒席,就在村長家院子裏面,我家的老人激動極了,多喝了
幾杯,我們原來准備吃晚飯就走,後來想想回去還要走2個多小時,這麼晚了摸黑走也不安
全,也就接受了村長的好意,住在村長家,村裏小孩多,最後紅包都不夠了,直接拿錢出
來,那幫小孩一人拿到十塊二十塊都開心得不得了,我當時喝多了胃難受,就偷偷叫一個
小孩幫我去買牛奶,給了他五十塊。後來沒看到那個小孩我以為小孩調皮拿了錢不辦事,
也就沒當回事。
結果喝高了,一覺睡到第二天快中午,然後看到那個小孩,原來這個村根本沒有小賣部,
村裏也沒有人買牛奶,這個小孩當天晚上走了2個多小時的黑山路,跑到我們停車的那個
小村落,人家小賣部早就關門了,他就借住在那個村的一家親戚家,等到早上開門,買了
牛奶再走2個多小時山路給我送牛奶過來。當時我都恨不得抽自己一巴掌。
後來我想給這孩子多包一點錢,這孩子死活都不要,他跑得也快,我和他拉扯沒一會就跑
得沒影子了~~我就出門去追,這一追就在村落裏迷路了,因為都是高高低低的土坯房,很
多家屋頂都是有茅草的痕?,我憑感覺繞到一個院子裏面,沒看到小孩,正准備轉身走,
聽到有細細索索的動機,好奇心上來了,就湊過去看。聲音是從一個很破落的窗戶邊傳過
來的,我當時真是一根筋,還以為是不是那個小孩跟我玩捉迷藏,也存了開玩笑的心,準
備跑過去嚇他一跳。
上面筒子有人問中國怎麼有這麼交通不便的村落。唉,實話跟你說,沒去過之前,我也不相
信,但是事實是真有,而且還很多很多,這又是後話了,繼續說當時發生的事情。
躡手躡腳跑過去的時候,我“哇”的大叫一聲,撲到窗戶前,定睛一看,窗戶灰蒙蒙的,
裏面好像還有細細的鐵柵欄,就在我發出叫聲的時候,裏面的悉悉索索動靜立馬停止了,
我當時還在傻乎乎的想,小孩不會被我嚇到了吧。于是把臉湊過去看,因?外面亮,窗戶裏
面暗,看得我很辛苦,還把手伸起來做遮擋,罩在額頭上貼著玻璃看。
一個披頭散發的人猛的撲過來,嚇得我往後一跳。
我這麼多年回想起來,真的後悔得要命,這一切都印證了後來發生的慘劇,但是當時的我
,根本就沒有把這些事情往拐賣婦女上面去想。往後跳了一步後,我看見那個披頭散發的
人跟我一樣,楞了一下,然後死命的拿手拍,震得窗戶都在響。
就在這個時候我電話響了,家裏人催我回去,說老人家酒醉也醒了,村長非要留我們再吃
個中飯,這次只吃飯不喝酒。我也就老老實實說自己迷路了,不知道怎?回去,打電話過
程中那個人還在死命的拍著窗戶。
我一邊打電話一邊退離了這個院子。
,但是道路都很繞,我當時所在的位置其實離村長家不遠。後生過來的時候,院子裏面還
能聽到拍窗戶的聲音。我正准備開口跟後生說這個事,其實我當時挺怕裏面人衝出來揍我
的,因為我滿腦門想的都是是不是我嚇到人家了,人家拍窗戶是發火的表現。
結果後生拉著我的手就走,和他一起的村人當中有個高高壯壯的男人,直徑就走進院子裏
面,說了幾句很響的話,因?是方言,我沒聽懂,窗戶裏面立馬就沒了動靜。
我就這?傻忽忽的跟著後生走,快到村長家的時候,後生突然沒頭沒腦的跟我說了一句“
剛是XX家的傻媳婦,神經病的,嚇到你了真不好意思。”
還沒來得及接話呢,村長就迎上來了,昨晚太晚了沒看清,白天一看,其實村長家特挺寒
酸的。院子裏面擺的桌椅很多都不是配套的,板凳有的還缺了半片兒,不過熱熱鬧鬧的人
很多,很多婦女孩子都在忙活,估計是把全村的女人都發動過來燒飯啊打雜了。
家裏的老人悄悄過來讓我走的時候多壓點錢,據說人家村?了迎接我們,還殺了豬。順便
說個插曲,原來在有些地方,過年燒一條魚,從三十放到十五,都不吃的,擺在桌上擺個
台面。昨晚我們傻了吧唧幾個人伸筷子吃掉了,今天一大早村長就派人去很遠的地方買魚
去了。
我這人,啥事基本都不放心上。一吃飯的時候,就把那個所謂“XX家的傻媳婦”忘一邊去
了,不知道你們見沒見過農村的那種大席面,很多桌的那種,一村人一起吃,女人基本不
上桌,上桌也是來端菜的,弄得我家的女眷坐在桌上很是氣憤,又不好意思說。
沒怎麼吃,胃裏還是有些難受,我就死命低頭扒飯菜吃,這時候有個比較年輕的女人端菜
上來,直接往我懷裏送,我雖然詫異也立馬騰出手來接那一大碗的菜(山區很多時候用大
海碗裝菜),一拿到菜,我就感覺菜碗底下有什?東西,兩人在交換的時候,那女人用眼
睛直勾勾的盯著我,這麼多年我都忘不了那雙眼睛,以至于都忘了她的長相,那是一雙怎
樣的眼睛,又像是絕望,又像是痛苦。
我是和村長一桌的,看到這女人把菜往我懷裏送,村長大著嗓門說了句,具體什麼記不清
了,好像是罵她怎麼不長眼睛,那麼大個桌子看不見。我家裏的女眷們逮著個機會劈裏啪啦
的幫這女人說,我暈乎乎的把菜碗放在桌上,下意識把那個硬硬的東西藏在了手心裏。
那個女人沒在桌面上呆太久,村長一罵她,就有個年紀比較大的婦女嘴裏念叨著土話把她
拉走了,後來的宴席上再也沒見到她。
手裏裏面的東西硬棒棒的,我當時身上都急出汗了,總覺得桌上很多人都在盯著我,一時
半會想不出什麼點子轉移,潛意識裏我知道這個絕對不能當大家面打開來看。
過了沒一會兒,我就借口上廁所,也沒人跟我一起。我一個人三步並兩步走跑到廁所,農
村的廁所不分男女,就一個大坑,門口半扇木門,我敲敲沒人說話,就推開進去。一進去
我就立刻把手心攤開,一張折疊成細棍大的白紙條。我把紙條摸平,上面就兩個鉛筆字“
救我”
我當時腦子裏面“嗡”的一下,瞬間想起來剛才那個“XX家的傻媳婦”,再想起那個女人
的眼神。
不好意思要說髒話了,我當時情不自禁就說出來了“媽的這不會是拐賣人口吧!”
我當時第一反應就是拿手機出來打110,手機拿出來以後我又想,不行,看電視上警察來
救人,村民肯定要阻止,我老頭還在這裏,萬一他們發火把我們扣下來當人質怎?辦!我
們一行裏面還有幾個女的呢!
人果然是自私的動物,我知道看到這裏你們肯定要罵我,但是我當時真的是這麼想,這個鬼
地方太偏僻,太遠,警察過來最快最快還要幾個小時,這段時間萬一我暴露了,我老頭這
一把年紀了,被我連累出來什?事情怎?得了。我蹲在那個臭氣衝天的茅房裏,想了又想,
想了又想。
最後決定先不報警,不動聲色起,先打聽到點具體消息,等一離開這個地方,就報警。因
為到現在為止,只有這麼一個紙條,連姓名,聯系方式都沒有。那個被囚禁的女人,我也
不記得關在哪裏了。唉,總之現在手上只剩下這兩個字“救命”
決定以後我把紙條疊好,藏在錢包暗層裏面。重新回到酒局。
事實證明我還好沒有立刻報警,因為剛回酒局沒多久,村長就給我介紹了一個讓我很震驚
的人。據村長說,因為我們昨晚也是臨時決定來他們村,很多人都沒來得及趕過來(其實
後來我恨納悶,我家老頭面子這麼大?這麼隆重做什麼),今天很多原來這個村子裏面出
去的老人家和後輩都過來了,帶我們認識認識。
說認識,其實也就是一桌一桌敬酒罷了,就知道逃不過喝酒。因為心裏存了心思,恨不得
立刻就走,就算看人,我也在留意給我紙條的那個女人,可惜再也沒有見過她。
走到靠門的一桌,村長給我介紹說,這個面前的中年人,就是這個行政村落群負責的派出
所二把手。
我到現在還搞不清這些村啊行政組啊鎮啊之類的事宜,但是當時村長那番介紹的話,讓我
很清楚,面前這一位,就意味著公家代表了,我心裏那個後怕,要是真報警了,估計真沒
法活著離開這個村。110肯定是轉接最近的警力,這警力還不是他負責,看他們這麼熟悉
的樣子,會了被拐賣的婦女翻臉?!真黑!
於是一離開這個村子就打110的想法又被我推翻了,我當時滿腦子都是各種念頭。為什麼我
一開始就跟你們說,要是村子離汽車站或汽車站停靠點近就好了,現在這個鬼地方,盤山
的破路,要是沒人帶,我們根本出不去!
然後我又轉念一想,這幫老古董思維定勢,說不定年輕人好說話,于是我找到最早帶我們
來的年輕後生,開始跟他套近乎。問他在哪裏上班,做什麼,可想好到大城市發展。
這個年輕後生一聽到大城市,眼睛都發光,他跟我說,現在年輕人都不願意呆在深山溝裏
,都想出去闖闖。但是文憑低,在外面基本都是做苦力(他們的學校離這裏很遠,條件又
差),最重要的是,家裏面要是不留男子漢,很容易被人欺負。說實話聽到這個觀點,我
真的覺得很搞笑。但是聽他細細說來,我又覺得很沈重。
山上的耕地非常的貧乏,開墾耕地不是那麼簡單的,一不小心還會造成山體滑坡。所以可
以說寸土寸金,家裏沒有男性勞動力,就很容易被臨近的村民吞噬,今天多種你家一點,
明天多種你家一點,一年半載就成人家的地了。而且雖然說靠山吃山,但是這些都是重體
力活,比如說板栗樹,每年打板栗都要死人,不知道你們見過板栗長什麼樣子沒?外殼全
是刺,還有青壯年上樹打板栗,下面人躲閃不及刺瞎了眼睛的。你家要是沒有男人,別人
就會說閑話,放著浪費還不如人家幫你們照看。
我問他家有幾個男人,他說兄弟三個,我趁機勸他出來,其實我內心的想法是從他嘴裏套
話。因為他肯定知道村裏現在究竟有多少被拐賣的婦女。我跟他說,你要是願意,這次跟
我們一起回去,我幫你找工作,不需要做苦力,你可以當保安,一邊做一邊讀夜校,文憑
拿到了再做技術含量高的工作。後生也被我說動了。
我當時很天真的認為,帶後生一起走,路上再套話,離開他們勢力範圍再呼救,應該來得
及。
我也很想說,很想說我都是編著故事嚇唬你們的。
我也很想說,我英明神武的救出了所有的女孩們。
但是我沒有做到,我不是超人,我很自私,我當時想到的,是先保全我身邊的老人和女眷
。我把整件事情想的很簡單,可以說很傻很天真。和村長辭別後,我帶著後生,家人離開
了那個至今還會讓我牽挂的村子。
一拿到車,我不顧老人還要逗留幾日的要求。直接帶著所有人直奔縣城,家裏人覺得欠著
全村的情分,對于我一直帶著後生的舉動也沒有異議。還一起商量幫這小夥子介紹到誰家
工作比較好。
到縣城那天,我借口帶小夥子出去買煙抽,帶他到一個安靜地,把錢包裏面的紙條抽出來
給他看。我說,你別騙我,你們村裏是不是有姑娘是買來的。
小夥子笑笑,有啊,好多人都買的,你也看到了,我們村那麼窮,不買,誰願意嫁?
原來我以為我攤牌的那天我會很義正言辭,很氣憤。但是面對小夥子那種再平淡不過的臉
,我一點底氣都沒有。
那天你跟我說的XX家的傻媳婦,是不是也是拐賣過來的?
是啊,我沒騙你,她真的是傻的,買的時候不知道,X嫂(經常帶女孩子過來賣的人販子
名字)說從人家那裏拿過來就是傻乎乎的,不知道是藥多了還是打傻了的,但是能生,傻
子便宜的多,8千塊。
你知不知道買女人是犯法的?
知道啊,但那也是沒辦法。
小夥子一臉的木然,還有那麼一絲絲你能把我怎麼樣的味道。
當我跟小夥子說,我要報警的時候。連我自己都不相信我這句話的脅迫力。
小夥子跟我說,警察知道這些事情,一方面很多警察自己都是從小村子裏面出來的,方圓
十裏都是親戚,你把人家媳婦抓走了就是斷人家的香火,拉不下這個臉。另一方面,真要
有別的省的警察來救人,要麼打遊擊,把媳婦交給X嬸轉移到別的村,再換一個警察不知道
的人當媳婦。要麼全村都出動,在這方面,大家是很團結的,因?今天你不幫別人保護媳婦
,明天你自己媳婦跑了你就什麼都沒有了。在村裏,買一個媳婦少說幾千多則上萬,基本
就是一個家庭所有的積蓄,一輩子也就買得起一個。
小夥子跟我說,我現在就是報警,警察去村裏,根本找不到人。
我問小夥子,你就沒有姐妹嗎?如果你的姐妹被人販子賣走了,被折磨,你不難受嗎?
小夥子看著我的眼睛說:我姐姐給我哥哥換親去了。
原來,這樣貧困的山村,是不會養閑人的,女孩子長大了,就會?了兄弟們的親事去換親
,去其他貧困的山村。
唉,怎麼說呢,女孩子一個人出行的時候一定要注意注意再注意。不要和陌生人說話不要吃
陌生人遞過來的東西不要好奇跟著陌生人走這些都不要當老生常談不在意,很多被拐賣的
女孩都有著高學歷,這些老常識她們肯定知道,但是騙子總是花招百出蒙蔽了她們的雙眼
。
本來我想把這段記憶深深地藏起來,但是看到很多人把被拐賣到山區當冷笑話來說,覺得
很沈重。你們所認為的,殺人下毒食物上做手腳。真的很不現實,通過那個小夥子我才知
道,X嫂不過是個中轉人,人販子也分幾道手的,她們常在山區走動的基本就是二道販三
道販,從上家那裏買人過來,在他們口中,大活人就像貨物一樣。也有成本,也有損失,
也有風險。拐賣小孩風險最低,因為小孩比大人好控制,但是除了自己家不能生育的,一
般村民不願意買別人家兒子過來養活,都希望買媳婦回來生養。
有沒有人逃脫的?有。
這個逃脫幾率與人販子帶著女孩靠近村落的距離成反比。距離越遠,逃脫幾率就越高,真
進了村子,就很難翻天。
很多時候人販子就靠騙,因?這中間路途很遠,完全靠藥,就會造成XX家傻媳婦一樣的下
場,很有可能藥死或藥傻。小夥子說,X嫂並不富裕,她丈夫很早就死了,再嫁的丈夫在
外地放打工時砸傷成了殘廢,一家老小靠X嫂一個人養活,一開始她出去打工,後來往各
個村帶小孩,慢慢的開始帶女孩子。她也要本錢向上家買人,自己一個人出去拐風險太大
,就是因?這樣價格也是不定的。手上“貨源”多的時候,X嫂價格就放得很低,夠本能多
賺一點就行。
談到最後,我覺得已經沒有辦法?裝下去,小夥子也明白了,他問我,是不是沒有打算幫
他找工作?
我說不是,我可以幫你在城裏找工作,只要你跟我走,但是你要幫我。我要知道你們村裏
女孩子的名字,或你幫我問到她家人的電話。我不報警,我直接找她們家人就好。
小夥子沈默了很久,跟我說了個故事。
小夥子說,村裏買來的媳婦,一清醒了哭鬧是免不了的。
有鬧得厲害的,把腦袋往牆上撞,就要拿布條捆在床上,餓上幾頓才能老實。
也有鬧得不厲害的,哭上幾頓,想著法子跑。
村裏老人說了,等有了孩子就好了。
有一年,後面村子一家人買了一個媳婦,可厲害了,大半夜跑掉了。幾個村子幫忙找都沒
找到,不知道是躲在山上等天明逃走了還是大半夜掉到山底摔死了,反正怎麼都找不到。
那家的老媽媽哭了好幾天,因為家裏所有的錢都拿出來買這個媳婦了,最後想不開上吊死
了。
消息傳開以後大家都緊張了好一陣,沒過多久,X嫂又帶了女孩過來,看這家人實在是可
憐,真的沒有錢了。就跟他家人說,上個女孩也是我賣給你的,這個女孩就當我發善心給
你。但是生出來的小孩,只要是女孩我都要,我也不要多,就要兩個。
這家人開心的不得了,千謝萬謝送走了X嫂。
這個女孩就求這家人,說你們要是缺錢,我家有錢,我家有很多錢,你要多少錢我家都給
你。我不報警,我給你們一個號碼,你們幫我打,我家裏絕對不報警,還會送錢給你們,
再給你買幾個老婆都夠了。
這家人一開始不同意,後來這女孩就絕食,硬躺在床上最後就剩一口氣了。
要是這個女孩死了,這家人不僅沒有老婆,還要欠X嫂一屁股債,于是慌了,打電話給女
孩家人。
女孩家人和女孩通電話以後,從很遠的外地趕過來,真如電話所說沒有報警,帶了很多錢
。最後把裝滿一個大包的現金先丟到村口,幾十號村民再抬擔架把女孩送出來。-
女孩家人帶著女孩就走了,再也沒有出現過。
這家人拿著錢,去找X嫂,想說我現在有錢了,買得起媳婦了。沒想到X嫂發了很大的火,
說這家人壞了規矩。不僅不會再賣這家人媳婦。整村都不會賣了,這家人慌了。去找村長
,最後是村子出面和X嫂談,把大部分錢都給了X嫂,X嫂才開口,說幫忙介紹一個做這個
生意的人,這個村子她是不會再來了。
我明白小夥子講這個故事給我聽的用意。
他不可能幫我,絕對不可能。
這個潛規則有多深,是真的管不了嗎?
我相信不是的,前段時間微博解救被拐兒童。不是救了不少小孩嗎?普通老百姓的力量都
可以拯救,為什麼力量不行?
接下來我和小夥子又顛來倒去的說了很多話,具體扯到什?方面,我也記不清了。總之,
最後,我們就在那裏分道揚?。
我不知道他回去會和村民說什?,但我記得,我求他,不要把“救命”那個紙條的事情說
出來。
回去以後,我把這件事情原原本本的告訴了家人。老頭子一口氣抽了半根多煙,一句話也
說不出來。
接下來我們以最快的速度回到了家。到家以後,我找了在派出所上班的朋友,問他這個事
情可能幫上忙。
他一張嘴就問我,那個女孩的名字,家人聯系方式。
我,什?都說不出來。我手裏只有一張小紙條,只有兩個字。那些天的夜裏,我總是睡不
著,那雙眼睛一直在我面前,我知道我對不起她,還有那個被囚禁的女人。但是我沒有辦
法。我能做的,只有把村的名字報給朋友,他說他也只能盡人事,盡人事,剩下的要聽天
命嗎?
有筒子讓我公布X嫂的名字,小夥子就跟我說了一個字“張”,還不知道是“章”還是“
張”,到現在那個紙條還一直存放在我的錢包裏面。
那是我手頭僅存的證據。
我沒有女孩的姓名,我甚至連她們的長相都模糊了,第一個被囚禁的女孩,我根本都沒有
看到臉。平時看美劇,看CSI,人家通過指紋就能定罪。但是現實生活中,真的什?都做不
了。
後來請我的朋友吃飯,打聽後續的事情。朋友告訴我,距離這?遠,沒有確鑿證據,他們
不可能出警。只能通過內部關系幫我問,那個村子那幾年陸陸續續新增的女性人口少說也
有4~5個,我見到的那兩個應該就是其中之一二。如果說能搞到女孩的姓名,在全國系統
裏查,最好是她家人聯系方式,家人過來,事情鬧大點,媒體都出動,就好辦。但這裏面
的複雜程度不是我能想象的,如果這個女孩是獨生子女,父母疼愛還好說,如果她就是被
家人賣的呢?如果她生了孩子舍不得孩子呢?這些情況在救援中都發生過,千辛萬苦把女
孩救出來。結果沒過幾年,她挂念村裏的孩子又回去的。
人仿佛是畜生一樣被轉賣,有時候想這些人活著到底有什?意義?
就是為了繁殖繁殖。。。將自己愚昧貧窮的基因世世代代傳下去??
但另一方面,他們其實很淳樸,思想簡單到近乎愚蠢,攢錢,買媳婦,生孩子....
和我的朋友溝通過以後,除了等待,什麼都做不了。那些年網絡遠沒有現在發達,不像現
在,也許手機嚓拍一張照片,傳上網。那一年我用的還是諾基亞,連攝像頭都沒有的准
磚頭機。前段時間看微博打拐,還有專家站著說話不腰疼說這樣不好,但我覺得,能救一
個,是一個。
後來,朋友跟我說,不知道是我運氣好,還是運氣不好。趕上中央那年有個什?政策,下
面要抓業績,幾個地方不是打黑就是打拐,他想到我托付他的事情,也就有事沒事透點風
聲。
後來那個村子也波及到,因為我不知道那個女人的名字,所以解救出來的2個女人裏面不確
定可有我念念不忘的那個。朋友也說了,其實解決2個也是當地對上面的一定程度妥協,2
個當中,1個是傻的(應該是我見過的那個),沒辦法遣送,另一個聯系過家人過來領了
。但是資料是保密的,他本來想有心幫我看看照片,長什?樣子,都沒看成。
那個張嫂,還是章嫂,根本沒抓到。
我估計,他們也沒有用心去抓。或者等到下次大行動,做戰利品。
但是朋友也暗示我,我們家人,那個村子,以後還是不要去了。大家都不是傻子,我們前
腳走,沒多長時間,就要打拐。不會這麼巧。
我只是希望能看到這個帖子的人,尤其是女孩子,不要再把拐賣婦女這個詞看得很遠很遠
,當年,我也以為這個詞離我很遠很遠。
剩下的,就沒有必要說了吧,看得懂的人,自然會看得懂。媒體不是你們想想中那?熱愛
幫助弱者,打個簡單的比方,全中國每天那?多地方被強拆,哪個媒體站出來說過一句話
?街頭那麼多小乞丐,媒體眼睛都是瞎的?到這裏還看不懂我說什麼的人,我覺得也沒有必
要,再說什麼。
我只希望,在這麼多的點擊裏面,有那麼一個女孩,因為這個帖子,增加一絲警覺,面對
陌生人的“好意邀請”,說“不”。
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">PrincessLily</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真恐怖,這樣誰敢去大陸玩,莫名其妙被抓去當押寨夫人 </span> 07/01 16:58
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<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">kcl0801</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:這就是蛆蛆心心念念想統一的國家啊 </span> 07/01 17:10
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">gogoyamaha</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:PUSH </span> 07/01 17:14
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hihi29</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:以後統一了 就換拐天龍國的女生去啊 </span> 07/01 17:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">Yui5</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:看完了,還好我是男的而且在大城市…不過大陸農村是不敢去了 </span> 07/01 17:21
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">Yui5</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:只能說女生要旅行千萬別去大陸山村..更不要亂吃東西… </span> 07/01 17:22
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">luckdot</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:真是華客! </span> 07/01 17:25
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kamayer</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹 變態的人民.... </span> 07/01 18:17
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">memalina</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好慘...... </span> 07/01 18:43
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">kenshin078</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/01 19:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">feywen</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好可怕,台灣是鬼島,中國是鬼國 </span> 07/01 20:46
<span style="color:#F00000">→ <span style="color:#F0F000">siamese</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:推薦 2部電影 盲山 盲井 </span> 07/01 21:16
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">lungerX</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:push </span> 07/01 21:45
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hank11235813</span></span><span style="color:#808000">: </span> 07/01 22:22
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">hck819</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:好多字顯示不出來 </span> 07/01 22:28
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">jajoy</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:蛆蛆宅男想要的國家 </span> 07/01 23:12
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">HNO3</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:幹恁娘這是什麼變態國家 </span> 07/02 01:18
<span style="color:#FFF">推 <span style="color:#F0F000">cheshirecats</span></span><span style="color:#808000">:鬼國 無誤 </span> 07/02 01:44
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yukitowu
[漫畫] 鬧鈴的空姐
http://disp.cc/b/254-3U0U
2012-07-02T10:57:15+08:00
2012-07-02T11:02:48+08:00
http://www.facebook.com/flyattendant
鬧鈴的空姐系列漫畫 | Facebook
還滿好笑的,
不知道會不會出刊www。 ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [漫畫] 鬧鈴的空姐 <br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Mon Jul 2 10:57:15 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/flyattendant" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/flyattendant</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.facebook.com" /><a href="http://www.facebook.com/flyattendant" target="_blank"><strong>鬧鈴的空姐系列漫畫 | Facebook</strong></a>
</div></div> </div>
還滿好笑的,
不知道會不會出刊www。
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yukitowu
[灌水] HiNet放心播
http://disp.cc/b/254-3SRN
2012-06-28T14:59:51+08:00
2012-06-28T15:01:13+08:00
http://funplay.hinet.net/funplay/index.do
音樂公播服務最佳解決方案-HiNet放心播
HiNet放心播是由中華電信所提供音樂公開演出(音樂公播)合法授權之企業產品,為店面等營業場所打造合法、便利、符合需要的音樂環境。本服務將提供一部操作簡易的音樂播放器(含遙控器),利用網路連線為您提供豐富的音樂環境,完全合法取得授權,滿足店家所有公開播放音樂的需求,毋需再為取得音樂授權而煩惱,創造營業空間的音樂氛圍。本服務音樂內容由台灣最大線上音樂平台KKBOX提供。 ...
竟然會有這種公播服務-3-... ...]]>
<pre><div style="color:#C0C0C0;background-color:#000; font-family:mingliu; white-space: pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word; padding:0 .3em 0 .3em;"><div style="background-color:#000080;line-height:100%;"><div style="float:right;"><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 看板 </span> yukitowu </div><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 作者 </span> yukitowu (雪兔哥)<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 標題 </span> [灌水] HiNet放心播<br /><span style="color:#000080;background-color:#C0C0C0"> 時間 </span> Thu Jun 28 14:59:51 2012</div><hr color="#008080" />
<a href="http://funplay.hinet.net/funplay/index.do" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://funplay.hinet.net/funplay/index.do</a>
<div align="center"><div style="background-color:#222; margin:.25em; padding:.25em; text-align:left;"><div class="quote_in"><img class="favicon" src="http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=funplay.hinet.net" /><a href="http://funplay.hinet.net/funplay/index.do" target="_blank"><strong>音樂公播服務最佳解決方案-HiNet放心播</strong></a>
HiNet放心播是由中華電信所提供音樂公開演出(音樂公播)合法授權之企業產品,為店面等營業場所打造合法、便利、符合需要的音樂環境。本服務將提供一部操作簡易的音樂播放器(含遙控器),利用網路連線為您提供豐富的音樂環境,完全合法取得授權,滿足店家所有公開播放音樂的需求,毋需再為取得音樂授權而煩惱,創造營業空間的音樂氛圍。本服務音樂內容由台灣最大線上音樂平台KKBOX提供。 ...</div></div> </div>
竟然會有這種公播服務-3-...
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